Vocaloid Thread - Sand Planet Edition

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Previous thread: >>23887260

Miku Expo 2020 Tour Dates: https://twitter.com/mikuexpo/status/1240081627381809152

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https://youtu.be/B-xOwPBgwEk

This song means a lot to me, but I'm kind of iffy on how Rin is tuned. I am literally debating buying Rin just to make a cover of this song. Maybe I could commission someone else to?

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test

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>>23945825
You've failed the test.

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>>23945825
What did you get banned for this time?

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Someone post the hachi pasta

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>>23945395
>miku expo 2020
vflower expo when?!

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>>23945395
I took the chink pill and I must say, Haiyi is a chinese synth I could listen to for hours.

I conclude therefore that Quadimension is good while VSinger is CCP shilled propaganda. Choose your chinese synths wisely.

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>>23946049
who?

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>>23946610
my wife

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>>23946682
that's a guy

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>>23946682
>Wife(male)

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Post sexy Rins, please.

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Miku's song pack in Cytus II is being removed in 6 days. I already bought it some time ago but are there any Miku songs I have to buy separately?

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>>23946875
guy(female)
>>23946998
Other way around, retard.

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Ellie cover of Snake Eater.

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Ellie cover of Snake Eater

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB6U73zWIvw

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>>23948340
I know I'm late to the party but... why does she look like this? I know voice banks will never appeal to the western market but she looks like a gacha game character

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>>23948388

I'll count my blessings. So many Western marketed voicebanks look like garbage so at least this one is cute and actually sings passable English.

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>>23948409
I'm not advocating for the yamahaloids at all, but there's gotta be like... something that appeals to non-weebs while not looking like absolute garbage and also getting the point across

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>>23948460

I'm pretty sure if a non-weeb wants to use Vocaloid they do not care what it looks like.

Just let me love my wife as she is.

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>>23947707
ok

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>>23948480
I mean more in the way of cultivating a professional userbase in the west, not someone using a vocaloid for demo work

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>>23948658
Disgusting. Almost ruined my Miku Expo experience.

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>>23948658
The west is lost for music culture, we lost in the 90s. We don't give A FUCK what music sounds like, people just buy music because of what it says about them to listen to a certain band. Not that Japan is any better, but at least they have a healthy indie scene. Our indie scenes are starving and located in specific cities for 5 to 10 years at a time and then they die out or get bought out by the establishment.

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>>23949070
are you delusional? Japan doesn't have a "healthy indie scene", you'll literally starve if you aren't signed to a management company, the only reason vocaloid producers managed to thrive in an "indie" scene like vocaloid is because of the big bucks to be made through the many publishing labels that sprouted during vocaloid's heyday, and the biggest names moved onto bigger projects or collab with huge companies for CFs.

The music industry is fucked regardless, all I want is for some western producer to get popular and encourage more people to produce their own music for it's own sake and not just to make a buck, at least for a few years.

>>23949010
yeah, crypton really missed the mark on her english release in every aspect

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>>23949302
I dunno where you're looking at, but I listen to a lot of extreme music and those people manage to make international tours whilst other countries' international artists can't manage a national tour every 4 years at best.

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>>23945900
posted bobby2pistols in an /int/ thread

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First bunny post.

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>>23950316
>No bunny ears
Hey alright

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>>23950316
Her small nose creeps me out.

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>>23950702
i ate the rest of it

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>>23950316
2 Flat

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>>23950316
>>23951044
slut

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Can you imagine being that mad

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>>23948388
I agree, there's too much going on. Also don't know why they have gave her two long pigtails. Reminds me of a certain somebody. No other vocaloid has two big long pigtails, right?

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>>23946682
>>23946998

Needs longer hair.

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sleep

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>>23952008
This hairstyle is simply horrendous and there is no defending it. Short hair VFlower is perfection.

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Bunny hips

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>>23952146
This girl is not sleeping. She is having sex.

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>>23947707
Why is no one responding to anon's request? He even asked nicely!
Since you're a very good boy, I'll give you (3) sexy Rins for free! Lingerie time!

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>>23952797

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>>23952807
Rin in fancy lingerie is the best!

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Rin is beauty not sexy.

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>>23952843
Why not both?

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>>23952797
Her brother is better tho

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>>23952904
Hey! I wanted to say that!
Add cute too!

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What happened to SeeU? She still a thing?

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>>23952914
And busty!

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>>23952998
Oh no, Rin! What are those giant tumors on your chest?!

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>>23953045
Well maybe not that busty.

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>>23953064
It's fine as long as it doesn't sag.

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>>23953146
Actually she's kinda flat.

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>>23953191
"kinda" being the keyword. Rin has tiny budding breasts.

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>>23953267
But instead she has a great butt!

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>>23953309
Oh, absolutely.

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>>23953434
Rin butt!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE5FYFcuJZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXXOyelj7Rc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkUFbh7FBkY

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>>23955494
Why do Una and Miku look so fat in that pic?

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>>23948551
Now this is a Rin I'd fuck. The penis makes all the difference after all.

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>>23952957
I heard after her VP went to jail she moved to the US and changed her name. So uh, yeah SeeU V5 sadly will never be a thing
They tried to replace her with UNI but UNI wasn't nearly as big

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>>23952797
rin in bikinis is simply the best

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>>23956067
Wait what lmao

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#HatsuneMikuDraw

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It's cool seeing all the different artstyles.

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I wish I was Miku.

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>>23956003
I wanna grab his butt so bad

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>>23957336
I wish everyone was Miku so we could finally abolish war and crime.

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>>23946085
Pleased to welcome you to the fold.

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>>23958546
ew I bet she eats bats

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>>23945732
You could probably find someone to commission if you looked hard enough. Not sure if big-time tuners like cillia take comms..? I mean, you see them work in collabs all the time.

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>>23957336

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>>23952957
Her design is so cute, it's a shame. Her VB is still quite expensive too.

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>>23959141
I want to feel those eyelashes

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>>23957289
pls post source, I couldn't find it

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Miku? More like niku!

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Thoughts?

https://youtu.be/Mc9NOdN-gjs

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>>23960644
fuck off hisokeee love your vids btw

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>>23960662
okay but thoughts???

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>>23960703
of course, luka is perfect

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>>23960644
Everyone suits their own face best. Len does look cool and older though. I think not changing their eyebrow colours enough makes everything look odd.

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>>23960740
the sega team did a terrible job with the eyes though, miku, rin and len have really weird buggy eyes

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>>23952158
>This hairstyle is simply horrendous and there is no defending it.

Some seriously bad taste itt.

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>>23946085
For me its Yuezheng Longya

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>>23962407
Yukari's wife IA is so cute.

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>>23962394
well i like it. im guessing they wanted make her hair look flowery.

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First useless alcoholic post.

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>>23962446

Second.

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>>23962382
No one cares about Oliver. Useless shota

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>>23962406
my wife flower is so cute

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuDZyUzgsr8

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>>23962669
dude..

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>>23962598

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>>23952914
Cute is always good.

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Are you guys excited for a NEW VOICEROID!?

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Canonically, are Miku's toenails painted in green too?

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>>23963348
imagine the smell

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>>23963360
like salty mints

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good shit

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>>23963267
Iori and Tsuina were failures so I can't see this one doing well.

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>>23963267
They really are flooding the market aren't they? When there are a million vtubers they already have to compete with. Because a million wholoids fighting for a niche audience worked out so well for Vocaloid.

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>>23964991
There's like 2 new ones a year. Wouldn't exactly call that flooding the market.

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>>23951044
Perfectly fits into the hand.

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>>23965689
It is. Things were much better when it was just the Cryptonloids + Gumi, Teto and maybe Gakupo if you were a fag and everything else being just quirky UTAUs and niche loids for turbo nerds making just 2% of the fandom. Simpler times.

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>>23963360
PVC

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>>23963348
I think it all depends on her module

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>>23967084
Those legs must have been pretty difficult to produce for the scale figurine.
Maybe that was the reason it got delayed for a half a year.

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Yukari's bed

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>>23962598
I care! His voice may not be as good as the other shotaloids, but he's cute so he gets a pass

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Unironically good Miku english

https://youtu.be/8IXJ8bngbKY

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>>23969254
I like singing parts of Glass Wall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olRbG-9mfa0

The dubstep is pretty meh, but Miku sounds actually good and clear in it.

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>>23969254
everyone knows that miku's english only sounds good in meme songs

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>>23969254
Holy shit. People with taste? I was just jamming to this these few days but didn't think /jp/ would like an English meme song.

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>>23970063
I get that it's a meme song but it actually doesn't sound too bad. People will probably laugh at me but a song becoming a meme doesn't make it any less enjoyable. I'm not even into FNAF, it just has a catchy beat. I still unironically think megalovania is a good boss theme

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>>23970324
Undertale's music is 10/10, say what you want about the game but Toby Fox is an extremely talented musician. Bet he could do great stuff if he was into Vocaloid.

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>>23969278
I like the concert version way more, but yeah, it's a pretty ok song.

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>>23970341
I agree! Good taste anon.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7N0axxBI90

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>here's your miku bro

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2/10
almost everything wrong, no attention to details

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My man shr finally got an official youtube channel. He's reuploading his songs at a snail's pace with new art and sometimes new arrangements
https://youtu.be/japyoajq8I8

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJlOCFimQzk (en/jp lyrics in comments)

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>>23970324
I was thinking of checking out the games because of the song's lyrics. Does anyone know if it's just random lyrics or it's explained in game?

I first got interested because of this Gumi video but Miku rekindled my interest.
https://youtu.be/Fn_RtiG3QyI

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Where can I meet Vocaloid otakus? I mean, online.

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>>23972075
man... remember when vocaloid was community-based and not studios doing PVs and producers making songs for smartphone ads?

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>>23972292
You mean 2007-2008? Since then it's always been mixed the way it is now. High budget high marketed stuff commissioned to high profile producers will always get more attention that the small producer making stuff for fun or to start his career.

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>>23972292
Tbh I didn't know it is the current scenario. Is vocaloid dead then?

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>>23972408
megamix was the nail in the coffin

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>>23972292
It's still kind of community based. There are a lot of mini producers if you take the time to look. I follow a niconico rankings bot on twitter and even that is enough. Honestly, I'm fine with the commercial shit and the underground shit coexisting. Maybe they're symbiotic.
>>23972408
Vocaloid has gone through several different stages of life. I wouldn't call it dead, but you'll see some people clamoring for the 2012-2013 stage, which had the highest popularity. (Personally I thought it was cancer because a lot of the activity was due to Kagepro and other wannabe manga series)
>>23971896
Comments say that it's based off a fan theory about the lore

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>>23971896
It's explained in the game. You could just watch YouTube videos explaining it if you wish.

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>>23972075
We're right here anon.

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>>23972517
The main issue is that there's no room for mini producers to climb out of obscurity, you might like that commercial and underground shit coexist but tell that to the Ps working their asses off to get recognized.

Sega, Crypton, MikuExpo and every other company are fucking idiots for latching onto a handful of producers for 10 fucking years, dooming the whole vocaloid culture in the process.

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>>23972075
What kind of Vocaloid fan are you? A lot depends on your answer.
>>23972628
You know, that is true. I'm really bugged about the Project Diva song selection, too. It's like the prerequisite is 10mil youtube views - impossible for most producers. Also, producers like Deco*27 wouldn't be nearly as popular without PD, so it's a self fulfilling prophecy. Still, the most I can do is support those producers who I want to see recognized, so that's what I've been doing.

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>>23972408
Most popular flower songs have less views than the covers made by real singers...

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>>23972292
The only bad thing is that people think they need a super awesome music video to go along with their song because all the big hits have that now

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>>23972777
Yes, it's a bit sad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex-ZSv5Esso

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>>23972814
This is due to 2 problems
>V Flower sounds bad in these songs, usually because it's too high-pitched for her. (Looking at you, Charles)
>Utaites have a much easier time gaining recognition than producers because they can produce videos faster and reap all the credit. Singing is much easier than producing. Casuals like utaites more, too.
Problem 1 is much easier to fix than problem 2. Fixing problem 2 requires casuals to acquire a taste for vocaloid and then put in the effort to support the official upload, which is unlikely.
I've also noticed some producers half-assedly making a Vocaloid version in order to say it's a Vocaloid original. Did you know Literary Nonsense by Eve has an official Miku version? And that it was only uploaded to Niconico? I didn't know until months after the fact. Grinds my gears.
>>23972894
It be like that. Here's one that dropped recently. https://youtu.be/ki12E2MMntk

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>>23972894
Nice! Reminds me a little of Nashimoto-P

https://youtu.be/LKhuwYoL0V4

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I think Wowaka's death opened up discussion about producers a lot more, with people, even western fans, putting in the effort to actually appreciate producers now. It annoys me when people ask why no new producers are coming up - it's because you don't support them! I also think the struggle to have your music actually get noticed makes people less likely to use vocaloids other than Miku, maybe Rin or Gumi too.

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>>23972941
While I personally disagree with your problem 1 (I think Charles sounds great), you make a great point about utaite, and it's why I can't really stand them. My other biggest complaint isn't someone like Eve, because the Vocaloid versions are sort of hidden as you said, it's producers who start out producing while angling to be the next Hachi. There seem to be some producers who start making Vocaloid songs and then switch to self vocals as soon as they get some popularity, and eventually drop Vocaloid altogether (see Balloon, KurageP, seeeeecun, Yuukisan, Hello Tanita-san, mao sasagawa, etc.) Nothing against Hachi, though, because I don't really think he planned his career that way. Anytime a producer uploads a self-cover version, or releases a self-cover album, that's usually the beginning of the end.

As an aside a lot of Eve's songs have Vocaloid versions in case you weren't aware, here's his VocaDB page: https://vocadb.net/Ar/10233

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>>23973358
Yeah I kinda feel you about self-covers. I'm getting that vibe from Ayase, but it seems like he's part of a successful non-vocaloid project already, so maybe he's legit after all? I don't know.
I didn't know that about Eve. I've actually been avoiding his work on purpose because the fact that he's an utaite bugs me... only listened to Literary Nonsense because of an unrelated fan video. Might go through his mylist later.
Also, unrelated, but this year's Racing Miku figma looks wonderful. I'm not a buyfag, never cared much for racing miku, but this one has caught my attention. The android aesthetic fits the ball joints well, and I love it when Miku's robotic nature is played up.

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POST THE FUCKING HACHI PASTA GOD DAMN IT

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>>23970063
>that shit
>taste
I hate to break it to you but maybe your taste isn't as amazing as you think.

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>>23973737
Then post something better. Let's see your taste.

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>>23946011
>The song is about how the vocaloid community has changed (it has, a lot of producers have gone pro).
I get the feeling that the reason they leave the scene is because they don't want the character taking away from what they think should belong all to them. All the fame, all the credit. Hachi had one job to make a positive song to celebrate the occasion. But he did a really cynical take on it, deciding to point out this evident change. It was painfully apparent he was paid to make it. Maybe Giga was also paid but you don't get that feeling from the song. It's why it was so insulting. It's like him saying "Okay, I will take the money but I don't get what I'm supposed to celebrate, singing songs in the desert."

Then all the "Holdouts" like you called them started patting him on the back for it. Reason being that someone who they looked up to validated how they already felt but it goes deeper than that. If it's a desert who is to blame for it? Were they chased out? The fans didn't love them enough? Their albums weren't selling enough? Like you said they weren't obligated to stay, they left by their own choice. Why should I pat him on the back for pointing out the desert he himself created? Why does he have to push into my face the result of his own actions? Obviously the desert must be a consequence of something but consequence of what? Apart from the producers who passed away why did the others leave? I get the suspicious feeling the song protests against that part of the community that cared more about the characters than the producers behind them. It's like a great star like him didn't want to regress into being a mere shadow producer for a virtual entity again. It's why he made it into a duet as much as possible.

If he were to sing 100% of the song in his voice and Miku wasn't in the video would you be able to distinguish it from a diss track? It's like him saying "We were called to sing for your party but I don't get what we are to celebrate, we're traversing a desert where nothing will grow for millenia, we all left because you cared more for Miku than you cared for us as people, if you still remember Hachi respond to me, I will sing for you for today then it's bye-bye-bye until it goes back to normal." It feels weird that he framed things this way. Instead of focusing on being grateful for his place of origin. He drives home how Miku is nothing without the people who used to make her songs. It's like the idea that Vocaloid fans put him where he is doesn't even cross his mind. It's why he is so full of himself in my opinion. He doesn't want to give credit, in his mind it was all about him all along and going back to Miku is to regress, something beneath him.

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>>23973692
sand planet is retarded aids cancer cum-stain fuck shit asshole bitch bastard tard donkey punch faggot dumb dick stupid poopy idiot smegma abcess rot gutter garbage trash fuck fuck fuck sand planet fuck hachi and fuck anyone who unironically and ironically likes him
basically fuck you anon

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Don't mind me. Posting best loids.

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>>23973957
Like I said before the main issue is that everyone latched onto a handful of producers for 10 years, all the official marketing done with miku was composed by ryo, kz or mitchiem.

Imagine if, for example, every new diva game had a new producer for it's opening track? Sega tried to set a new precedent with X but it was too late, and even then they brought ryo back for the intro song which absolutely sucks.

Same goes for the concerts, there was no room for new producers to shine unless they already had the backing of high production values.

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>>23974130
Left isn't even a loid.

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>>23973692
Sometimes I like to visit the archive just to have a laugh at when the interview translation dropped. Hachi a shit.
>>/jp/thread/S17437512#p17453416

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>>23974280
But she is a roid.

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>>23974226
Most fans don't even care about Project Diva or Magical Mirai though.

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>>23974329
Yeah and most fans don't care about CD releases or finding ways to support producers, the people who invest nothing into the community don't do much aside from giving views, that doesn't really put food on anyone's table

the vocaloid culture was alive because people decided to invest money or talent into it, but that's definitely not the majority of people who listen to vocaloid

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>>23973358
>>23972941
Yeah that was my point. I guess it can be frustrating for the P because he is putting in all the effort and this guy gets even more credit with much less effort. But honestly, all these viewers are the same people who got to know the songs by tiktok memes so I guess we are better off without them.
btw I like flower's voice but I know its not an 'easy' voice for a first vocaloid impression

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Is LamazeP's NicoNico name 名無し a reference to 2ch/futaba?

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>>23974375
New producers getting into vocaloid aren't looking to use it to put food on the table.

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>>23974434
You think people do stuff with no expectations whatsoever? The reason we have an over saturation of songs is because everyone wanted to be the next ryo, have your shit go viral, make it big, produce songs for big companies and live off the residuals

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>>23974375
>the vocaloid culture was alive because people decided to invest money or talent into it
This is simply wrong.

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>>23974479
if you did nothing but download songs off youtube onto your mp3 player then you were basically a leech

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>>23974472
believe it or not but some artists aren't motivated by money or fame

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>>23974472
Yes. This epic masterpiece >>23969254 wasn't made because someone wanted to sell CDs to smelly otaku neets. It's where the real Vocaloid SOUL is at.

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>>23974561
Yes, but that still isn't really what kept the culture alive. Back then it was a time when the internet wasn't plastered with advertisements and everyone having money in their minds while reducing their creations to "content".

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>>23974472
Please kill yourself asap, so this cancer doesn't spread.

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>>23974404
I think most people are sort of turned away by the "robot voices" but want to listen to the songs. And enough good Vocaloid songs of different genres and vocal ranges are released, so all different kinds of Utaite can take advantage of them. And Utaite are able to begin lucrative careers like this, and that inspires more. In some ways I kind of think of Utaite as like a parasite, they take the work made by others and use it for their own gain (I know this is an oversimplification, but still).

As much as I dislike Utaite, I still sort of think that producers singing their own songs is worse. Utaite need the original versions as a starting point, whereas when a producer starts doing self vocals, there is no need for a Vocaloid version.

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>>23974573
>>23974597
yeah ok, no one cares about the views and it's all about the artistry, sure, watch him start a patreon as soon as his views grow (which is not a bad thing, idk why trying to live off what you love doing is such a sin around here.)

>>23974635
Maybe in the first two years but I assure you that every producer you like and every song you listen to was made with the goal of living off your artistry, why do you think so many people jumped on the vocaloid train right after ryo got big?

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>>23974796
>Maybe in the first two years
And those were the best years~! Stuff like this got made.
https://youtu.be/E6m2NzdN7o0
https://youtu.be/a0-n1kNqf1s

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>>23974561
You mean using these youtube2mp3 converter sites to get the music from the YouTube videos? Who the fuck still does that? The quality is dog shit at best.

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>>23974796
Some jams came out of the first 2 years man. I'm grateful that they're producing music at all, even when the utaite collabs, etc. bug me.

Shr please hear my silent plea and release your album digitally. I'm just not prepared to ship a cd in from japan.

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>>23974876
I miss the 2000s internet culture, bros

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>>23975062
https://youtu.be/vy_xbXIJ898

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https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13168184

This song is so catching.

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>>23973918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mco3UX9SqDA

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>>23969254
This starts off so shittily then it starts getting good and then suddely drops off. Cute Miku English though.

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>>23975224
Why hasn't Miku been sued for false advertising yet?

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>>23974796
>current "popular" western producers
Opinion discarded.
>Maybe in the first two years but I assure you that every producer you like and every song you listen to was made with the goal of living off your artistry
Bullshit. Please stop projecting your hypothetical intents and see >>23974573

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>>23975224
A classic, a real meme on /a/.

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>>23946085
I pretty much only listen to Quadimension nowadays. They are pretty good (specially Zeno, his Freesia album is my favorite) and i lost interest in the typical japanese Vocaloid years ago (still like Mayu but she is pretty much dead nowadays). The Quadimensionloids also make for some fine Waifus, my favorite being Haiyi but i like Xingchen's voice slightly more.

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>>23975356
tell me who your favorite P or song and I'll link you to where they've monetized their work

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>>23975886
Selling a few albums at vom@s does not mean trying to start a music "career" to put food on the table.

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https://youtu.be/x1cXDcZ4Zow
English originals by Japanese VocaloPs are moe

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How to get Kaito husband?

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>>23976316
work out

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDps109blBE

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>>23976558
That's no tribute, that's whoring for views.

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is m*tchiem the biggest sellout in the history of vocaloid?

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Her hair is quite long.

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Who is your favourite producer and why?
Which song do you have the biggest emotional connection to?
Who is your least favourite producer and why (if you have one, that is)?

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>>23978131
I swear officer shes 13 years older than 16

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>>23978116
Damn, I never noticed.

>>23978131
>Who is your favourite producer and why?
LamazeP, because his songs made me fall in love with Miku. And they are cute, cheerful and catchy.
>Which song do you have the biggest emotional connection to?
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18756983
>Who is your least favourite producer and why (if you have one, that is)?
Deadball-P, should be obvious.

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>>23978131
>Who is your favourite producer and why?
Dixie Flatline, I really liked the R&B influences in his work, and his lyricism felt a bit more mature than most producers of his time
>Which song do you have the biggest emotional connection to?
I'm gonna go full boomer but it's Just Be Friends, that song hit me like a ton of bricks, the harmonies in the song are also really pretty, specially the "yuruyaka ni kuchiteyuku kono sekai de agaku boku no yuiitsu no katsuro" part, it's just a weird melancholic yet upbeat sound.
>Who is your least favourite producer and why (if you have one, that is)?
Deco 27, I don't hate him or anything but his signature sound is really grating, and his newer music feels very repetitive... at least his most popular songs, the chorus of ghost rule and habina sound so similar to me.

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>>23977755
Hey man if I were from Brazil and suddenly had a chance at a music career I'd sell out too

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>>23978853
he's not from brazil is he?

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>>23978116
Great observations there P! God that killed me
>>23978131
My favourite producer is Yuyoyuppe by far. His stuff just hits a nerve and devastates me in the most beautiful way. It lets me connect to a vulnerable side of me I don't often get to without a lot of work.
My favourite song is World Is Mine, though, I just think musically it's brilliant and it's impossible for me not to get sucked into it. I love music of all kinds, so just really loving a song counts as emotional connection to me. If that doesn't count, then Story of Hope has made me cry more than once.

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>>23978131
>Who is your favourite producer and why?
Probably Mitchie M. His extremely catchy style and command of all different genres is not only impressive but also made me realize "wow, maybe Vocaloid can actually sound professional and like real music".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5Ge7nbu8TY
There's not a single track of his that I dislike, only ones I'm indifferent to. I own both his albums and they're the only Vocaloid CDs I've ever bought. But then again that doesn't really mean anything because I'd buy whoo's stuff in a heartbeat if they were actually distributed physically.
>Which song do you have the biggest emotional connection to?
I don't really understand this question. I'll never forget Two-Faced Lovers till the day I die if that's what you mean though. If I had to pick a single song to represent my Vocaloid it'd be that. I still remember freshly and fondly my first time hearing it in Project Diva Extend and I still haven't gotten tired of listening to it. I always make sure to play it during every Project Diva session.
>Who is your least favourite producer and why?
Your favorite producer. Or whoever did the Daughter of Evil songs. Or whoever did Butterfly on Your Right Shoulder. Or whoever did Paradichlorobenzene. Or whoever did Kagamine HachiHachi Flower Fight. All those horribly tuned screeching non-songs can go straight to hell along with anyone who likes them.

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>>23979063
Why is your image named like that?

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>>23979063
the greatest idol has no bad songs, I remember bye bye blue memory being a very refreshing sound the first time I listened to it

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>>23978131
>Favorite producer?
Very tough decision. I like a few songs from many different producers. If I had to pick one, probably koyori, since he's very consistently good. Right now I also really like r-906, john, nuyuri, powapowap, dateken. I really need to put together a list of my vocaloid favorites...

>What song do you have the biggest connection to?
I'm going to pick one happy one and one sad one. Happy one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94MiXWVVZq0 Sleeper ft. Rin, I first heard this one when I was 9? 10? and it just made me feel happy. It still does. One of the most powerfully happy memories I've ever heard

Sad one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXC2wO1XdMI Airhead by Picon for the spot-on lyrics and general vibe. Honorable mention goes to At the Mercy of the Emptiness by Pinocchio-P, which I connected to a lot in middle school. Honestly, there are almost too many to choose.

>Least favorite producer?

Maybe mothy. Or Jin, since kagepro was terrible. I like Deco*27, but I agree with >>23978579 about the repetitiveness of his work

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I love Vocaloid but anyone who refuses to accept that it's a shadow of what it once was is absolutely insane. Really if anything it's more like it was back in 2008 or so, a small group of dedicated fans plugging away regardless of mainstream trends.

Most of the big producers have left aside from a key few, we're getting fewer big hits consistently (you'll see the same songs cling onto the NND rankings for months and months because nothing's coming out to replace them), and Hatsune Miku and co aren't exuding the mainstream presence they once were. Hell, Miku's almost a nostalgia thing at this point. It's clear that Sega produced Project Diva Future Tone as one last big cash-in for what they saw as a dying franchise, which is why they mashed everything they had into it (I'd be curious to the thought process behind the Switch game).

I know it sucks to hear, but the numbers don't lie - the Vocaloid scene is nothing like what it used to be. Hachi was right and everyone that's pissed at him is in deep, deep denial.

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>>23979196
k

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>>23979196
>you'll see the same songs cling onto the NND rankings for months
That literally happened tons of times since the very start of vocaloid though.

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>>23979242
Sure, but those were usually just the absolute chart smashers like Melt or Packaged. These days even middle of the pack songs will linger for 6 months+.

I'd honestly love to be proven wrong on this one, but I haven't seen a convincing argument other than "nuh uh!!!" That's not to say that the scene is completely dead - producers like harumaki gohan and Police Piccadilly come to mind a good new talent - but at its peak we were getting drowned in so much content it was hard to keep track of it all.

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>>23979093
Because it sounds cool.

>>23979143
Indeed. You can easily make the connection between Bye Bye Blue Memory and Michael Jackson. Never heard Miku make those kinda sounds before. I love how Mitchie M does that stuff with literally every single song of his lol.
I was also truly stunned when I first heard Kanashimi wa Aijou no Youni. What other Vocaloid music has that distinct Brazillian style? My only Vocaloid experience at that time was the Project Diva games so you can imagine how I felt. Vocaloid suddenly went from catchy pop tunes to real heart and soul with staying power. Makes me wonder what would happen if more western artists cared enough to use Vocaloid to its fullest potential.

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>>23979196
The difference between 2008 and now is that now we have a catalog of millions of songs, nothing feels new anymore, every genre has been done to death, so it feels like we've already heard all the new songs coming out.

It's kinda what happened with rock bands in the 2000s, there's an established formula that's been proven to work so everyone's doing it, to the point where their sound meshes together.

A personal turn off for me is the fact that most producers don't use vocaloids for their MVs anymore, it's always some random OC chasing after a silhouette or some shit like that it's so boring. As much as I agree with >>23979063 when it comes to daughter of evil, butterfly on your right shoulder, etc. at least it felt like it was the vocaloid playing a part, things used to be fun.

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>>23979411
Man Tricolor Airline has amazing Miku tuning. Her voice is so soft and smooth. Just really pleasant to hear. Like what the fuck her voice is so incredibly done here why the fuck don't all songs have her like this jesus christ it's so good.

>things used to be fun
I can understand where you're coming from but those fun things could at least sound good like Triple Baka. I love Triple Baka.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duPJqfKiA78

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>>23979279
The "middle of the pack stuff" now has to compete in the minds of people with 13 years of highly filtered quality content. If you got many of those same songs and released them up to 2010 they would probably be top in terms of tuning (though to be fair technology and technique improved a lot) and style (even if nowadays they sound derivative because most were already done well), and would probably get the producer enough fame to get stuff like help for PVs and support from the commercial side of vocaloid so they could fully focus on that career.

It's kinda like Bach, during his time he seemed derivative because he just seemed to play what everyone played and people were wanting something different, but looking at it from outside of current trends, eventually people realized that he was actually a brilliant musician. We don't know what the "middle of the pack stuff" today might be remember later when people look outside of the simple weekly/monthly trends.

My point is that it's unfair to simply label quality music as "middle of the pack" just because they didn't become immediate hits due to changing trends and increasing competition, though I understand your point that it's probably harder now than ever to start as a vocaloid producer and become a "legendary" producer.

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>>23979469
Her voice in PD/PM sounds so different though, I wonder if the producer really did improve that much in that year between his song release and the game's release.

https://youtu.be/M2-x7XM1Tbg
https://youtu.be/apyfJ_Y10RQ

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>>23979469
Triple baka's bridge is so fucking bad lmao. The song is good but god that bridge

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>>23979558
>the little dance that mimics pulling the luggage
>how she kicks it after
That is absolutely adorable I never noticed that. I really need to watch all the Project Diva music videos one day.

>>23979648
The part with Teto swinging her hips? It's fun if you dance along

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>>23979411
>A personal turn off for me is the fact that most producers don't use vocaloids for their MVs anymore
That's possibly because it makes it easier to sell songs without dealing with crypton and the influence of stuff like kagepro with producers wanting to create their own universes that they can expand in other medias if successful.

Though it seems to me that in the higher end (mostly by older already popular producers) it's comparatively more common to use the actual characters. Though I'm not sure if it's because it's an older culture or because it's more advantageous for them since it makes it easier to make stuff for crypton and other companies.

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>>23979411
>>23979557
Oh for sure, I'm absolutely not trying to say that the quality of the music itself has declined. Like I said, I'm fond of some of the newer talent coming out and I'm looking forward to a few of the upcoming releases. When I say the scene has declined I'm talking more about the sheer presence of it, like the number of people involved and the amount of music coming out. There's still good music to be heard and more good music to be made.

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>>23978131
>favorite
Neru, easily. I love Rin and all of his albums are really high quality in both tuning and instrumentals, and each album is unique in sound and style.

>biggest emotional connection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSx5ZYrH-70
I had an extremely surface level interest in vocaloid but future tone is what got me heavily invested into it, and this song was one of the big reasons why. it sounded really cool, and it was really difficult, but I eventually managed to beat both the extreme chart and even the EX-EX chart. I even imported the album (https://vocadb.net/Al/22751)) because that song is so sick, and I wanted a .flac rip of it.

>least favorite
I don't really have any producers I dislike, but I hold a bit of contempt towards all of the old producers who ditched vocaloid completely after making it big.

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>>23978131
1/6 out of gravity gets me every time.

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>>23979196
you're trying way too hard

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>>23976558
I appreciate the intend but that faggot is kind of insufferable. Judging by some of his remarks, he wasn't really into vocaloid when it got really popular and only sticked to the same 5 popular producers. What's the point in making videos about the whole culture then?

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>>23978934
yes he is, he held a Q&A in some brazilian forum

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>>23981028
Source?

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>>23980965
I didn't watch the videos, but I'm guessing it's new knowledge for many viewers, even if it's basic. Maybe he'll cover the early/obscure stuff later. I wonder how you research this sort of thing if you weren't there? The vocaran videos probably tell a good story...

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>>23978131
>Who is your favourite producer and why?
Dateken, Kikuo and Sasakure.UK. I can't decide between one. Dateken's music is simply the comfiest and cutest to me, Kikuo has not released a single song in his entire work history that I didn't like, always manages to find a way to try something new and his attention for details is amazing and I like Sasakure's storylinies, OC Donuts, the melodies he chooses and how catchy his music always is. He's also seems like a fun person.

>Which song do you have the biggest emotional connection to?
Beautiful Dreamer by Nata-P. Something about it always makes me feel at ease and gives a feeling of home. Also Rolling Girl, hearing it at MikuExpo only made that connection stronger.

>Who is your least favourite producer and why (if you have one, that is)?
Ghost and Creep-P for not improving a single bit in several years, refusing to invest in better tools, ripping off other producers and not growing up. Their music is shit and I dislike their amount of popularity.

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omoi feat miku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5yLRmomUz4

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>>23978131
>Who is your favourite producer and why?
mothy. His songs are what got me into Vocaloid. I love how diverse his discography is, no two songs sound the same. He's done a bunch of different styles and I'm into all of them. The best part of his songs are the melodies, goddamn I love the melodies, the PVs are pretty and the stories are interesting.
It's great how he hasn't changed from the early days, even his new stuff feels straight out of 2009. I'm glad some part of my favorite Vocaloid era remains. Also he gave me my first waifu Riliane, and I was pretty into his novel series for several years. He had a slight influence in me becoming a Rinfag too.
>Which song do you have the biggest emotional connection to?
Daughter of Evil is the specific song that got me into Vocaloid 7 years ago. It's also Riliane's theme, who is still my waifu in the form of a Rin derivative. I listened to the original at first, but I switched to the 2015 remake when it came out, and the extremely nasally voice in it is one of my favorite uses of Rin, if not my very favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W77q-kK8iA8 I wish there was more Rin tuning like this.
>Who is your least favourite producer and why (if you have one, that is)?
You know, I'm pretty sure I had some producer I disliked, but I can't for the love of god remember who it was or when it was that I disliked them. I guess it's not surprising that I'll forget those I don't like.

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>>23978131
>Who is your favourite producer and why?
Giga-P. He just makes hit after hit, has some great covers, and is a Lenfag which is a nice plus of course.

>Which song do you have the biggest emotional connection to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyeFfNH9Upc

Gets me every time. It's one of the first songs I heard when getting into Vocaloid and it hit me instantly.

>Who is your least favourite producer and why (if you have one, that is)?
I don't have any least favorite producers, although there are a few popular producers that I just don't like due to personal taste (Utsu-P for example does nothing for me).

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>>23972941
>I've also noticed some producers half-assedly making a Vocaloid version in order to say it's a Vocaloid original.
I hate this shit. Harumaki Gohan is starting to do the same shit with only uploading the vocaloid version on nicovideo and shilling their shitty vocals everywhere else

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What are some vocaloid moments that made you go "wow"?

this is mine, this was two years before mitchie m entered the scene with his "Miku Sing Like Human" songs
https://youtu.be/-hZNtYfErfE

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>>23984224
mine was when i heard the world is mine for the first time. i was like "wow a robot is singing that!" and it all went downwards from there. now i own 6 CDs and at least 20 digital albums

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>>23984322
what cds? let's see your taste

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>>23984330
unhappy refrain, no title + and -, Greatest idol, official orange, CYNICISM

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>>23984224
For me it was when I saw footage from the concerts. I thought it was real 3D holograms and I was like "wow this is the stuff of the future".

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6CR_t5WNvs

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>>23983731
>(Utsu-P for example does nothing for me)
I'm hurt, anon. Have you listened to all his stuff?
https://youtu.be/UvUJbhxUKT8

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>>23981205
What's your favorite kikuo song?
For me it's https://youtu.be/XVr4-qZC6YM
I love the big band style and the chorus is so fun and explosive.

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Do you ever feel like reading the lyrics of a song completely changes your perspective on it? When I first listened to Yellow on Future Tone, I thought it was just another boring kz song. Then I saw the translation on googoo888's channel and I thought it was adorable! It really made me appreciate the song and now it makes me happy whenever I listen to it.

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>>23982983
Is Omoi a germanboo? A lot of elements in his music already reminded me of New German Wave/German Rock music and now there's that title.

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speaking of Yellow, does anyone have a link to the original 3D MV with the balls? I haven't seen that in a while

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>>23986057

Listening to famous Vocaloid songs in Japanese for years and finally hearing them sung by a synth competently in English was kind of moving sometimes and really interesting just as a perspective things.

I really didn't know how fast Two-Sided Lovers lyrics are until I hear an English synth struggle to keep that tempo.

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>>23986057
Yeah, learning lyrics can really ruin or make me love a song. When I listen to music outside of Vocaloids I don't really care for lyrics, I even prefer songs without them, but in this case I care about lyrics quite a lot. Most of the songs I listen to I wouldn't even care about if not the fact that I really like the lyrics and it has Miku in it.

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>>23986214
nvm found it

https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11427283

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>>23983998
Natsushiro takaaki did that a lot, bit some of the ones he split up were much better as vocaloid tracks. Endroll is a good example (and one of the better VY1 songs in years). Near not so much since both his miku version and his self cover were inferior to the fukase/una cilia cover

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>>23978131
>favorite producer
Enjoying 100kaiouto currently. I like the flow of their songs. Favorite of all time might be mikito.

But I've been sticking to HoneyWorks for a while. Their Vocaloid tracks are beginning to sound samey, and they're only ever alternate versions now, but I'm glad they still try at least. Wish they busted out other loids besides miku (and gumi when she's allowed out of the shed) more often.

>song that clicked
Back in the day there was this one ballad Len had of being a pianist who lived next to a violinist girl and becoming childhood friends with her, then they parted and he made it big when he was older. It was one of the vocaloid songs I still vaugely remember and moved me, but I cannot for the life of me remember its name (and the video doesn't seem to exist on youtube anymore). Either that or Eraser and the Riddler Who duology since all of them i watched in the early days of my vocaloid interest

>least favorite
Not really about producers, but just a nitpick. I don't really like when they pitch loids up in songs. Much as I like Niru Kajitsu's songs or rocoro, some songs would just sound better if they lowered the key so flower can work her magic. Same with stuff like dramaturgy, just doesn't work with miku's vocals. There are some cases where it's done well but a lot of the time it makes them hard to hear.

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>>23986057
Absolutely. Amazing lyrics can make a 7/10 song a 10/10 for me.
Obviously the music itself is probably the most important part but lyrics and vocal edit are not dismissable, ever.
For example if a song has "not good but not too bad" music and the lyrics are very low effort then I would probably dismiss and forget about it.

One of the reasons why I am able to read and speak the language right now is because I wanted to understand japanese song lyrics.

>>23978131
I couldn't say anything is the best ever because I like jumping between genres, producers and vocaloids. Currently, off the top of my head:
>Who is your favourite producer and why?
Past year: *Luna. Amazing music, tuning, and even lyrics. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGGY3oTOQ9g9FCu9hLFJsqw
Past month: TaKU.K. Same as above. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5EG7VTgfM1IEelDj1h-nYQ
>Which song do you have the biggest emotional connection to?
I probably have a few hundred of these. Probably Starduster if I had to pick a song that I keep remembering all the time.
>Who is your least favourite producer and why (if you have one, that is)?
Don't have one.

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>>23986655
https://youtu.be/B76kYD5X6cw

Not sure if the Len song you're talking about is this, but it sounds pretty similar! Except it's not a violin girl, it's piano

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Lat Miku is still the sexiest Miku model there is.

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>>23986677
I just began learning Japanese for more vocaloid songs! Although I'm really not far yet, just trying to memorise hiragana alphabet. I know this is a little off-topic, but do you have any tips? Can you listen to vocaloid without English subs anymore?

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>>23986792
animasa*

oops my bad

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>>23986891
Try again, shitposter.

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>>23984224
Vflower high kick

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>>23986810
Not that guy but being able to understand Miku was one of the leading reasons I started learning Japanese. It feels awesome knowing what she's saying.
I don't need English subs anymore but some songs are way easier to understand than others because Vocaloid is not friendly on the ears to begin with. I still have to really concentrate on the lyrics to understand. Mitchie M for instance is very easy to understand (at least when he's not throwing butchered Engrish and Spanish in) while Pinocchio P's faster songs are impossible. But then again I can't even make out English lyrics half the time.
Music videos with the lyrics in Japanese is the best way to fully understand songs and that's probably true for any language.
As for tips? Uh, keep at it!

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>>23987020
Yeah, at first i tought "damn all those weebs wanting to learn japanese" but then i realized that it helps a lot understanding japanese music and the experience is much richer. I will try to learn it after i learn italian first. The trick is to really just to stick with it even if the progress is slow and takes years.

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>>23987325
You're never going to learn Japanese listening to vocaloid songs. Watch more anime or jikkyou videos.

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>>23986810
Depends on the song, you will sometimes need at least japanese subtitles as even the native japanese can sometimes struggle. Really depends on the song.

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>>23987337
I mean yeah no shit....I plan on searching for classes if i can afford them, anime helped me learn a few words but i rarely watch anime nowadays.

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God I fucking love Okame-P.
https://youtu.be/Fu-ot5OX9mo

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>>23987337
>jikkyou
Real people are boring. Does Hololive count?

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>>23986810
We all started somewhere. Learning hiragana/katakana is a good start.
People hate on romaji but I think it is fine to enjoy the learning process and make it easier.
My biggest advice would be is to learn how the language is pronounced. Find a romaji subtitled version of the song from youtube or use a romaji converter (these are not correct all the time). Put the lyrics on the side and try to sing along or just read it together with the song. With this, your mind will be able to kinda understand how the language works over time.
And then you will be able to connect what you have learned from the written language with what you have learned from the spoken language.

As for me, and I don't know how it was for other people; I was able to understand almost all sentences in spoken language like music lyrics before I was able to read almost anything in Japanese. And I never had to study Japanese grammar except for one or two things. Being able to spot translation mistakes was how I noticed this.
I think this stuff depends on the language properties of your mother tongue. Even if you are learning learning Japanese from English like me.
Then I started studying because I was like why not, I already know the language. First katakana/hiragana and then kanji. I'm still not done with kanji because I can't read every single Japanese word that I know, yet.

Basically:
You can take it easy and make enjoying the media your main reason.
Or you can go hard at it and study for a few hours every day.

>>23987337
Back when we had anime fansubs the karaoke subtitles on the OPs and the EDs were really great.

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>>23987410
voiceroid

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>>23987428
I miss when fansubs were still a big thing, before everything got consumed by the big commercialization of anime in the west.
Now we are stuck with shit like crunchyroll who barely give a fuck to even translate accurately.

At least the studios are actually getting money from the western audience, I guess. (at least I hope so)

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>>23987428
>I'm still not done with kanji
No one is ever done with kanji.

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>>23987493
CR subs are unironically better than shit like [commie] or [gg], and the good sub groups were usually days or weeks behind. Funi is the company with terrible subs.

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>>23986810
>I'm really not far yet, just trying to memorise hiragana alphabet.
>he doesn't know

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why is mikufiesta such a great song? it's like nothing I've heard before, the "mua!" the "WRRRRRYYY" and the rolling of the Rs, it's just so cute

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>>23988121
I don't like mikufiesta.

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>>23985246
Delicious

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>>23986787
Ah, shit, this was the one. Thanks for finding it.
It's been a decade since I'd watched it and it meant a lot to me. I'm so happy to see it I'm crying.

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>>23979196
NND is dead, not Vocaloid.
It sucks since I have a lot of nostalgia for using NND to discover new songs but nowadays you need to use VocaDB to find the good Youtube/Bilibili/SoundCloud gems

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>>23988121
all is music is the better spanish song

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>>23988512
Not sure what you are talking about. Everything is still uploaded to NND outside of chinkshit and westernshit.

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>>23978131
>Favorite P
I recently just found Guiano and am really enjoying him. I wouldn't say that he is my favorite P. But can't list all of my favorites because they aren't in any order.
>Song with biggest connection
I can't pick a top there are so many that I feel have an effect on me.
>Least favorite P
I don't have one

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>>23988720
>I don't have one
if you have a list of favorites then you have a /least/ favorite

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I said that I didnt have a "least favorite producer" but producers that don't upload their vocaloid versions to youtube make me sad. The song and the video is good though.

秘密 / はるまきごはん feat.初音ミク
Pick your poison
1. https://www.bilibili.com/video/av497997381 (disable comments using the blue button below, or use mpv)
2. https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm36748469 (can only watch the proper video if the quality options are unlocked which is after 02:00 JST time. Otherwise you get shitty 64kbps audio with 360p video)

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>>23988121
It's great because it's great. I can't help but smile like an asshole whenever I hear it. It's just too damn happy and adorable. Miku shouldn't be speaking Spanish but it works anyway because she's adorable.
This part in particular makes me explode from cuteness overload. https://youtu.be/TMdHGvrwyJc?t=218

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>>23988973
>Miku shouldn't be speaking Spanish but it works anyway
Miku frequently sounds better in non supported languages than she does in english for some reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj9Eho-p0P4

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>>23988452
I'm really happy I could find it for you anon! I actually just found it randomly yesterday, maybe I found it for you!

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>>23989304
Because English has many types of sounds while Spanish is mostly similar to Japanese from a phonetics standpoint.

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>>23988452
I'm really glad I could find it for you, anon! I actually just found it randomly yesterday, what luck!

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>>23988452
>>23989534
okay now fuck

[Anonymous No.]

so now that we know Miku will perform at the 2020 olympic games, will she do a MikuExpo-type performance or will it be more like the shampoo commercials at 0:18?

https://youtu.be/u09_xmfw4mA?t=18

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>>23989752
Probably a vocaloid concert but with higher quality animations. Hopefully Senbonzakura with all the others, instead of boring songs like World is Mine for the 100th time.

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>>23989752
>so now that we know Miku will perform at the 2020 olympic games
Top delusion. They will have idols and vtbuers.

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>>23989842
How is senbonzakura not an overplayed song but world is mine is

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>>23990645
World is Mine: Boring, bitchy lyrics
Senbonzakura: Includes every cryptonloid, actually about Japan so makes sense for it to be performed at the Olympics, probably sounds better live, catchy

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>>23989842
If Miku sings on the 2021 olympics crypton will definitely commission some of the songs for the occasion (to producers like mitchie m and possibly even ryo or hachi considering the occasion), make an open contest for the songs and make a poll for the remaining songs. They'll also make a contest for the costumes, including for other cryptonloids that will not appear in the olympics but will get merch anyway.

It's just how they do things.

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>>23990734
That's some terrible criteria. Especially when you consider that Supercell was actually really relevant in the mainstream Japanese pop scene when they existed

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>>23991144
Supercell still exists, within my heart.

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I love ryo/supercell's music but holy fuck the lyrics are awful, why was a grown ass man writing like an angsty teen

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>>23991348
That's all musicians, dude.

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>>23991159
They put out a new single a few months ago with new singers, maybe he'll revive it? Egoist was a decent replacement for a while but that died too for some reason

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1NDetk08as

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>>23992295
what is this

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>>23992482
magical mirai 2020 song contest, winner and runner ups.

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>>23992492
oh right I forget that happens every year

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I will forever hate the intro cutscenes for giving us the best looking Miku but never actually see her in-game. I'm not even talking about the movie-like quality of the cutscenes but you can see that the proportions are different.

More to the point, why not commission the same company to do the concert visuals? Instead we're stuck with a weird clay-like version of miku based on the F/X models.

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>Miku Expo 2021
RIP

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>>23993610
the most kino thing crypton and sega could do is host an online concert

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>>23993657
I can wave my glowsticks at my computer monitor but it's not the same...

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I'm scared anons. My country's president said social distancing is unsustainable so everything's going back to normal and we'll just have to live with corona as "a normal part of life". And our healthcare system isn't great.
I might die before I ever get to cheer for miku at a live... this isn't what I wanted, but if I die before making 25 then I want to thank Miku for making the last 13 years so great. I never realised how much she meant to me until the last few years, but she's the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23993777
Why don't you just not go outside

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>>23993785
I'm lucky enough to work from home at the moment but I still need to do grocery runs and the more people get infected the more dangerous any space becomes. I also live in a high rise so at any point it might just get drifted down by the breeze from any nearby flat.
Scary stuff... but at least I have Miku

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>>23993610
I don't think any of us are surprised at another delay. It still sucks, but is is what it is.

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>>23993777
People are not much more aware of danger than they were on start of outbreak. I'm sure that with proper measurements we all can go to work and out without wave that would clog health system.

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>>23993610
Nice, that's enough time to book a fly and holiday to murrica and it will most likely be cheap.

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>>23992764
that miku is based off the f/x model dumbass, ft miku looks like an alien

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>>23995810
It looked like she had elf ears in the thumbnail.

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>>23991864
Embarrassed Len is the cutest

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>>23992764
Why does her skin look like rubber.

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>>23997538
FT fucked everything up

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>>23997661
right, as if f, f2nd and X weren't already fucked with stiff physics, rubbery textures and bloom out the ass

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Since we are on the subject, wich one is your favorite miku 3d model? i love kasoku's version, she looks so fugging adorable

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>>23997779
LoveDeath

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Am i the only one who doesnt give a fuck about producers? I mean i dont care who produced that Lady Gaga song why would i care about who did that Miku song? To me its simply a Miku song.

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>>23997999
because there are producers who are consistently good, why rely on chance to find more miku songs you like when you can just look at someone's catalog?

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>>23997779
I really like YYB. It looks sleek, cute and cherry variant is just so comfy.

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>>23997779
>>23998170
why do MMD modelers feel the need to add a million gradients and clashing textures and materials.

There's always so much going on with 3D vocaloid models.

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>>23997779
she looks like a who

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>>23998382
fixed

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>>23998382
>>23998733
Just use flat shading, it's not hard. Why do these models have to be so 3d.

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>>23998382
What the hell is that clothes texture? It looks like she's wearing wet clay.

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>>23998896
Stripper clothes.

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>>23998857

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76xl6kQQNUg

I forgot how good classic Maretu was. His new songs don't scratch the same itch for me since they're more experimental. Not as many strong melodies.

>>23999385
I like this module, but the straight bangs and pink eyeliner bother me.

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>>23997999
Because there are a lot more Miku songs than Lady Gaga songs. Knowing the P names is extremely helpful for narrowing down the kinds of songs I like.
Moron.

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>>23997999
I do not care about producers as many other here, but knowing the ones you like and following is an easy way to get new songs you will probably like.

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whats a good place to download v4 or v5 and some voicebanks?
help kudasai

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>>24000457
Audioz

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>>23997999
Because, retard-chan, Miku doesn't write her own songs. The producer is the one who makes the music. Thus, the producer you're listening to has a high chance of having other music you'd like if you like them, and conversely if you don't like them you can avoid them in the future.

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>>24001349
Omg i didnt know that! Nah, most artists nowadays dont write their own stuff either.

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>>23997999
>Am i the only one who doesnt give a fuck about musicians? I mean i dont care who produced that Lady Gaga song why would i care about who did that guitar song? To me its simply a guitar song.

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>>24001472
Miku and others are literally just software, if you're not looking at who made the songs, then what are you looking at?

Also you picked a bad example on your post, it's ironic since Lady Gaga is actually a song writer too

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>>24001941
To be fair this example doesn't really fit either. You can't attribute a personality or humanity to a musical instrument but loid is different since it's the closest thing to an actual vocalist and therefor a human being

[Anonymous No.]

I love Rin!

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>>24002039
>You can't attribute a personality or humanity to a musical instrument
Uh, you totally can. The hell are you saying?

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>>24002212
Rin loves you too!!

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>>24002351
If I could be said to have a waifu, it's her. Her voice soothes me.

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>>24002039
You can literally attribute a personality to anything. Make a dancing violin character and put it on a music video, pretty soon you'll see people saying how they love "Violy's" songs and don't care about the violinist. I mean that's literally what happens with Vocaloid.

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>>24002416
same for me but with an extra appendage

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>>24002454
Nothing wrong with that.

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>>24002441
Don't the vocalist always get the most attention?

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>>24002416
Can vocaloids really be waifus, since they have no personality? Mind would be Luka, since her voice and even design also calm me. But I'm hesitant on calling her a waifu since her personality can be whatever I want it to be which puts her at an unfair advantage. Not like any of this matters, I just wonder.

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>>24002666
Vocaloids are the perfect waifus/husbandos, they can be literally whatever you want as long as they vaguely stick to their design and base voice. And if you don't like the way a vocaloid is portrayed in some song or fanart, you can just find another one or even just make your own.

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>>24002666
I've had this conversation with others before.
Basically, my thoughts are that any given character who you waifu is always going to be your platonic ideal. There's not much difference between a vocaloid and, say, a character from a story-light fighting game in terms of canon defined personality. Even more developed characters from anime and such are always going to have blind spots in their characterization that you'd fill in with whatever you want anyways. So I don't think lack of an established canon personality necessarily makes it impossible.
Additionally, my perception of her is built out of bits and pieces cobbled together from music I really like that uses her voice, stories her songs portray, that kind of thing. It's not canon, but nothing is, and that's kind of the point. So it isn't that there's nothing, there just isn't anything strictly official.

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>>24002572
It really depends, some bands are geared towards the "idol" style where they sell a person as the core of the experience (regardless if he is the most talented or not). For those the band members and song writers are exchangeable. It's usually the vocalist for those but not always (sometimes it's even the songwriter, and the vocalist/performers are just an exchangeable instruments like vocaloid, and pretty much what vocaloid was created to be).

And others are about the collective effort, where it's either a scenario where no one is replaceable (like some rock/metal band that all fans recognize every member contribution) or everyone is (like an orchestral group where the important thing is what they play and no single member could carry it by himself except maybe the conductor).

Since execution is pointless in vocaloid outside of the few live concerts (everything is usually synthesized instead of recorded/performed), what matters is solely the creative aspect (both composer, presentation - like art, animation and PV and the instrument). Which is why those 3 are always the ones mentioned, and each person can decide what matters more to them.

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>>24002775
What about the anon who cried because Twitters headcanon is that v flower is a trans boy

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>>24003077
Who cares what Twitter thinks? Twitter is the absolute bottom of the barrel, most retarded place on the internet. It's also a bunch of children, in all likelihood.

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>>24003077
I feel kind of bad for people that actually get cowed by that kind of trolling.
People really should take more care not to let others influence their thinking too much, especially the crazies from twitter.

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>>24003077
If you're gonna get triggered by other people's headcannons, you just don't have the mental stability to get into a fandom as weird as that sounds

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>>24003148
yeah i dont get it like this is normal nerd fandom stuff

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>>24003222
Oldfags don't know modern social media well enough to mentally filter out that crowd

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I'm Rinposting again!

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What's the point of Rin when Una exists now?

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>>24002976
What a beautiful fanart

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>>24003529
Una is ugly, Rin has more songs, a better voice, even a better design

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>>24003529
She is still the cutest, still has way more and better songs, and I still love her the most!

[Anonymous No.]

Una lookin' pretty good tho

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>>24003306
Miles better than Lenposting.

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What would you do to improve Meiko's design?

I don't mind her natural hair and eye colour, it actually makes her stand out in the sea that is anime designs. Sort of like Hanayo from Love Live, her plainness is her charm. She's also the only cryptonloid without blue eyes (unless you count Miku's as green or turquoise) which is nice. I think the worst part about her design is her outfit. It's awful and plain. Sakine's looks better, but not by much. It makes me sad because design really does matter in vocaloid, and Meiko sounds amazing to me when she's tuned nicely (which I know is hard.) Even her V4 outfit looks bad to me. It's something a trashy stripper would wear.

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>>24003306
Rinposting?! That's illegal!

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Future Rin best Rin!

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>>24003610
If Rinposting is wrong, I don't wanna be right!
>>24003631
I disagree but everybody's got a right to their wrong opinions!

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>>24003631
Just as long she's still underage.

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>>24003599
I'm not a fan of her V3, but I like the simplicity of the original outfit.
>>24003631
Remove thyself, heretic.

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>>24003631
>>24003642
Rin is perfect no matter what!!

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>>24003598
Did someone say Lenposting?

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>>24003655
No one really takes the "canon" ages seriously, do they?
>>24003685
Yeah!

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>>24003760
I just find that the girls being less than half my age to be sexy as fuck.

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>>24003760
>No one really takes the "canon" ages seriously, do they?
Have you SEEN Unafags?

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>>24003760
The canon age is just their debut age, you still have to add how long they exist. Una is 14, Rin is 26 and Miku is 28.

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>>24003777
In the nicest possible way, that's messed up and you should really keep that kind of thing to yourself.
>>24003851
The idea of Rin being older than me is weird, but I'm not sure I hate it.

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>>24003851
I want Miku senpai to teach me about life

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>>24003864
Age gap is hot and romantic, I don't know what you're on about. I want Rin to call me daddy.

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>>24003749
Ah, the most perfect boypussy to ever be created. Thank you Crypton.

[Anonymous No.]

imagine liking rin when len exists

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>>24003749
The best kind of posts really

[Anonymous No.]

>>24003906
How about... both!

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>>24003906
Oh I'm IMAGINING all right

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>>24003960
I want to ruin that Rin.

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>>24003906
Not everybody is homosexual, friend.

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>>24003851
>Rin is 26 and Miku is 28
This gives me a boner.

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>>24003960
That's the gayest outfit I've seen on Len

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>>24004248
Just for you.

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>>24004417
Miku is overly sexy in that picture.

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>>24004482
You think so? Looks pretty reasonable to me. Is it the heart pupils?

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>>24004248
But is it more gay than his regular stripper leather outfit though

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>>24004482
I wish I was Miku, imagine cornering Rin and Len like that...

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>>24003546
>better voice
Definitely not.
https://youtu.be/S_EWAw7Eg7w

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>>24004627
Kyaami makes everyone sound really good though, including Rin.
https://youtu.be/gTHloFfWk4Q?list=PLdr1WEbLjgqiP3-v4u7z0ffW4hlKJQHDH

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>>24004548
This outfit is so incredibly lewd I still can't imagine how they even approved it, for a shota character even. Based.

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>>24003760
>No one really takes the "canon" ages seriously, do they?
I like my loids/roids aged ≤12.

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>>24003760
>No one really takes the "canon" ages seriously, do they?
For me Miku will always be my 16yo girl.

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>>24004548
Nothing gay about exposed hips

[Anonymous No.]

Rin!!!

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>>24005284
I love Rin!!!!!!!!!

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>>24005289
Me too!!!

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>>24005306
She's the best!!!!!!!

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>>24005336
The very best!!

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not a Rinfag but I concede she has a great belly button and butt.
Miku is for hips, thighs, and legs.
Luka is for boobs.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to lick Rin's cute and funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24005388
Rin is for anal.

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Miku is for kissing on her sweet, soft lips.

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>>24005388
The cutest!!!

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>>24005403
Rin is too old to have a cute and funny.

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>>24005610
This thing scares me.

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>>24005703
The hat or the cute girl wearing the hat?

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>>24005736
I mean, you'd have to be pretty far gone to consider wearing such a thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>24005736
Both but the hat especially. She's like an unholy amalgamation of all the worst parts of other Vocaloids + hat.

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>>24005791
>She's like an unholy amalgamation of all the worst parts of other Vocaloids
Could you elaborate?

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>>24005831
Miku's twintails, Rin's fang, Len's dumb sailor outfit, Luka's tights, your glasses, meiko's puke red color scheme. It's all so awful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24005831
He is saying that Miku as a loli eel is ugly, which makes him a fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>24005902
>your glasses
Rude. I don't wear glasses.

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>>24005906
How fucking dare you. I love loli Mikus so much that I collect loli Mikus. Loli Miku is a case study on how to make an already fantastic design reach perfection.

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>>24005902
>Miku's twintails
Are you implying that the twintails are the worst part about Miku?
>>24005967
But Una is literally just loli Miku with a hat.

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>>24005902
I like fangs..

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>>24005902
>>24006029
Rin doesn't even have a canonical fang or anything, it just is a popular fan addition.

[Anonymous No.]

get the fuck over here
>>24008033
>>24008033
>>24008033

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>>24008042
I was gonna wait until this thread moved at least another spot or two down the catalogue before making a new one and updating the OP, but I guess that works.

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>>24008042
Wait next time faggot

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>>24003599
I like her V4 design, I just wish her color scheme would be less generic and her V1 would ditch the shoes and used a smaller, maybe more loose belt. But then again, I think the lack of animu hair and very simple design in contrast to the others helped fanartists and producers to form a certain image for her.