07th Expansion Thread

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MILF-yasu edition

[Anonymous No.]

ERIKANTRICE
manifesto:https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
booru:https://erikce.booru.org

What is erikantrice?
you know it already

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>>22993050
I don't need to know it. You need to prove your theory. As you've said, Umineko follows Knox rules.
Knox 8: It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.

If you're making the claim that Rosa was brought to the chapel by Yasu in order to make her appear guilty to the people on Rokkenjima, provide evidence of Yasu attempting to do this.

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>>22996549
>If you're making the claim that Rosa was brought to the chapel by Yasu in order to make her appear guilty to the people on Rokkenjima, provide evidence of Yasu attempting to do this.

first battler never saw the scene so the scene can be meta, we are discussing if and only if this scene wasnt meta,
so where are the proofs if this scene of real?
-gohda and shannon lied about nanjo and kumasawa death.
why do that? simple they belive rosa was the culprit, why they belive that? just kanon confession wasnt enought so one fo them must had saw rosa exit from the chapel.
ex: george made shannon went to the garden for the confession.
at the right time george made shannon leave, then shannon saw rosa exit from the chapel.
simple not?

>muh fake confession didnt count as proof
why in shkanontrice the servants are accomplices? simple because they lied, so my proof must be valid if you belive in shkanontrice
checkmate

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>>22996591
>first battler never saw the scene so the scene can be meta, we are discussing if and only if this scene wasnt meta
No I'm not.

I'm asking you why where there's evidence that Yasu took Rosa to the chapel in order to make her look guilty.

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Imagine trying to have a discussion with italian anon. Like--imagine actually replying to his posts. That's pretty embarrassing.

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>>22996608
You can't fight autism that strong.

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>>22996600
rosa is not the culprit
yasu is the culprit
rosa was in the chapel
everyone think that rosa is the culprit

this are my proof a logic conseguence.
the culprit made acrtions for a reason we are in a mystery after all


>>22996608
image accept something just because someone say to you that is truth. That's pretty embarrassing.

>image arguing about umineko but you only read the manga
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

one bit goat spotted.
pls read the vn until that monete go back to discord backbanner

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>>22996636
>image accept something just because someone say to you that is truth. That's pretty embarrassing.
That's not how it works. Most of the people who adhere to Shkanon came to that answer with their own reasoning. Arriving at some unique answer nobody else did doesn't make you some enlightened messiah. More than likely, it just means you're wrong.

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>>22996699
>Arriving at some unique answer nobody else did doesn't make you some enlightened messiah. More than likely, it just means you're wrong.
nobody discover the greatest invection, just a small group of people revolution the world.
einstein,gauss,fibonacci ecc without them humanity evolution would be longer.

umineko is a very very difficult mystery,there are math problem unresolved by 1000 years or problem who solution was fake and the real one was found after century.
what i do was really understand the mystery, not some manga or some external addition but the original source.
with logic,hardworking but most important love i understand the real mean of an important character that shkanontrice tag as crazy,mad ,without any sense or goal.
erika=kanon give a real motive to everything,like will said at start of ep 7.
for discover erikantrice you must really love mystery and focus on it.
sadly i killed the mystery who r07 wanted to be eternal, i destroy every meta-scene and exspose her real mean.
i execute the requiem to this wonderfull story and give dignity to it.
let umineko die after 10 years is the right time.

> Most of the people who adhere to Shkanon came to that answer with their own reasoning.
i really doubt most of the people just read the manga, the others just thought shannon=kanon after the duel(even i) but is really impossible discover it without the duel part.
if there are some many people who didnt accept the official solution and even the author didnt confirm it when it was discover then r07 goal was take time to made someone discover the real one then he lost the hope, we betrayl his love,we stop to think and accept the natsuhi culprit theory so erikantrice lost the right of be called truth and ryukishi accept shkanontrice.

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>>22996774
>but is really impossible discover it without the duel part.
You clearly weren't around back when this was coming out. People were theorizing about Shkannon WAY earlier on.

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>>22996774
Jesus christ how massive is your fucking ego.

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>>22996816
for what reason?
mion shion
kanon shannon
on on
>uao kanon and shannon are the same person like with mion=shion
just higurashi-fags larping too much that with the duel become fanatism
>>22996821
is called be yourself
if your idea of person is submiss of what society think of you then you are a slave

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My goodness, at least the Rosatrice dude wasn't a douche. I've read your shitty manifesto btw, now you can start your school shooting, someone finally gave you attention.

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>>22996608
Not as embarrassing as Satoko's smelly loli arse.

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>>22996636
Dude you're making it really hard for me to like you or take you seriously. All I'm asking you to do is provide evidence for your very basic claim and you refuse to do it. You've said that claims need evidence in this game, and now I'm asking you for it.

No one in Rokkenjima has any evidence that Rosa went in the chapel. No one in Rokkenjima states that they believe Rosa is the killer. No one in Rokkenjima is ever proven wrong about Rosa being the killer because they never thought of it and the idea that they never conceived was never disproven anyway. Nothing you've said so far makes any logical sense.

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>>22997063
>Dude you're making it really hard for me to like you or take you seriously.
i am not here for made me like to everyone else just to show my thoery

>No one in Rokkenjima has any evidence that Rosa went in the chapel.
so she never go in the chapel or rosa had the only way to acces to the chapel "the key" i know that there is the red truth the envelop was never open but a piece on the game didnt know that

>No one in Rokkenjima states that they believe Rosa is the killer
the servants ,george and battler really doubt of rosa in the game

>Nothing you've said so far makes any logical sense.
all this discussion is about if the chapel scene is real, a scene that battler never see.
i didnt belive it i just said that if is real then yasu use it for made rosa seem the culprit.

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fat glasses man is fat and glasses

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I don't fall for the Ikuko=Sayo meme, but I'm curious about how they deal with Ikuko being Hanyuu, or with deal with Higurashi at all. We're clearly shown that Ikuko is Hanyuu and that Bern is Rika, so if Ikuko is Sayo, what does that make Higurashi?

Do they just throw out all the blatant hints and everything in the manga? Do they claim everything is reference and isn't actually a part of the story? Do they think Higurashi is just a book by Ikuko? Throw out magic 100%, everything is a metaphor or in-universe fiction? I'm really curious how they work around this.

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shion

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>>22997129
>shion
what did you mean by this?
Shion as in the original Shion that then became Mion? Or do you mean the Shion that the original Mion became?

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>>22996816
I wondered why people believed the theory back then. After Thoya aka Ikuko showed up and it basically confirmed the forgeries are basing of Legend and Turn it could be biased. Maybe it was coincidence Kanon dissapears in Turn but he reappeared as an illusion. Shannon's corpse is supposed to be an illusion in Legend but both cases are pretty similar. Pretty strange to repeat these tricks in the forgeries. I had the feeling the false Toyha was trying to force Shkannon by writing the Same Trick over and over again. Of course I didn't get the hint "never read I haven't wrote"

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>>22997129

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>>22997112
beautiful,martial artist champion,intelligent,charming,nice,Modest,Perfect family,Lucky,enthusiast,loving,talented,empath,Confident,Elegant,polyhedral,objective,Athletic,comprehensive,persuasive,Gentleman,self-critical,Dreamer but most important KILL EVERYONE ON ROKKENJIMA FOR MARRY HIS LOVE

GEORGE TRUE KINZO HEIR

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>>22997133
shion shion

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>>22997137
The great Sonozaki mountains

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>>22997087
Well that sucks because you've said we're friends before, and I don't want to be brushed off just because I'm disagreeing with you.

Could you show me any specific times where people think Rosa is the killer? I think they're more scared of her shooting them, rather than believing she killed people already.

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>>22997137
Twin Peaks
directed by David Lynch

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>>22997152
>Well that sucks because you've said we're friends before,
really then sorry for that, i was just betrayl too many times and is difficult trust again.
i think you was something of backbanner so sorry for that.

>Could you show me any specific times where people think Rosa is the killer? I think they're more scared of her shooting them, rather than believing she killed people already.
when i reread this chapeter i didnt focus on it , but i remember george that said to rosa even you can be the culprit.
i know is not too much but something is

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>>22997114
Featherine is never implied to be Hanyuu. She is just a cheeky reference to her.

Bern isn't Rika. She is Bernkastel from Higurashi, who came from Rika but was already a separate entity tied to Rika by the time Higurashi starts. The Rika we know never became Bernkastel, she just spawned her accidentally long before Onikakushi.

And EP6 makes it very clear that Higurashi wasn't a "game" in the Umineko sense, with witches arguing about it in the meta or anything. Lambda calls it a "game" to compare it with Beato's gameboard, but its nature is very different.

Higurashi took place in real fragments, not any sort of constantly rewinding gameboard like Umineko. Hanyuu only calls it a gameboard in Matsuribayashi as a metaphor, it's not literally one.

Lambda simply granted Takano the power of certainly, and fucked off to do other things in the meantime, which is a huge metaphor for her willpower anyway. She didn't go and talk to her directly or anything like that. The story in Tsubasa is metaphorical, just like the scene where Takano meets Hanyuu after arriving to the village for the first time. It's meta shit.

Lambda mentions that Bern's master "created the game herself but abandoned it halfway through and left the thinking to her piece". She "created a broken game with no goal where the beginning and ending overlap like a donut". And "she was trying to get her piece to create a goal and fix the logic error".

The master she is referring to is Hanyuu. She created the game because she used her power to challenge fate and try to save Rika. She didn't literally create the world, she just played a game against the certain fate promised by Lambda. She and Rika were the only players in the fifth dimension. Their opponent was Takano, the human piece responsible for Rika's death.

Lambda compares Hanyuu's broken game to a logic error (it wasn't literally one, since there was no game master or a gameboard or any sort of "writing" on her part. These were all real fragments that truly existed). This is because Hanyuu "created the game" by choosing to save Rika and then abandoned it, losing sight of her goal, when she realized it was too hard to win.

The game remained broken and with no purpose, other than Hanyuu spending time with Rika forever while telling her to give up on winning. That's what Lambda compared to a logic error. The game had no goal because Hanyuu lost interest in saving Rika and gave up.

Rika did all the thinking for herself (with the help of her other self in the fifth dimension, who merged with her between deaths). She managed to regain her will to fight, find a winning condition and achieve victory by creating miracle. This fixed the broken, purposeless game Hanyuu had created.

Then Lambda came back and was disappointed with Takano's failure, but she got a new witch girlfriend out of the deal and is stalking her to this day.

Featherine is a creator level witch. She has nothing to do with Hanyuu just like Lambda isn't literally Takano despite the references. Hell, Hanyuu isn't even a purely meta being. She can go between fragment and have Rika possess her alternate selves, but she is tied to Hinamizawa. She isn't even a voyager, let alone a creator.

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Just realised that "You" from Dai is a direct inspiration of "Summer" by Joe Hisaishi : https://youtu.be/l0GN40EL1VU

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>>22997166
It's okay. Well I'll get to EP 2 again eventually and then I'll see for myself. I had the conversation last thread about Eva and Shannon's body.

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>>22997274
I think Hanyuu is very misunderstood as a character and horribly misrepresented in the anime. The VN only explains her origin in a metaphorical but kind of obvious way (they use alien terminology to talk about her tribe's arrival to Earth). And this isn't some weird console arc, it happens in Matsuribayashi.

Since it's all so vague, many people don't get the implication and assume Hanyuu is a totally unexplained character. She's not. So theorizing that she's somehow Featherine requires ignoring her characterization, her whole character arc, her origin and lore, and her rightfully earned place within the Higurashi cast, which was a big deal in Matsuribayashi. It requires considering her a non-character you can attach all sorts of bullshit to, which is simply not the case.

Hanyuu is heavily implied to be part of a race of fifth-dimensional creatures with the ability to shapeshift into human-like forms when they descend to the third dimension. When Rika explains her origin in Matsuribayashi, she says Hanyuu's tribe came to Earth in the distant past from a really far away place because something happened and they couldn't stay there. And she uses a bunch of alien terminology that should be obvious to anyone reading. Rena's delusions had some part of truth and foreshadowing, it wasn't all 100% bullshit. Ryuukishi put a gain of truth in there.

This is how Hanyuu managed to get a human form again in the last arc. She had been killed by Ouka in the past and made to bear the sins of the infected villagers, so they could blame the demon for everything and forgive each other for the tragedies. She spent a thousand years without a physical form until she met Rika, who is basically Ouka's reincarnation and inherited some of Hanyuu's power because of the 8th generation prophecy and because she's a direct descendant of Furude Hanyuu.

This is why Rika can literally create a miracle to stop the bullet. And why Hanyuu was even capable of gaining a physical form again. She is a being with the ability to make herself corporeal like that, she was just demotivated and wandering as a spirit because of what happened to her.

This is all more or less implied in Matsuribayashi and its last tip. I'm not making anything up. Just read it again and you'll see.

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>>22997274
Jesus Christ, nobody asked for an essay on things we already know. Why are you even replying to me with all of this? I never implied the opposite of what you’re saying. I’m asking Ikuko=Sayo fags how they deal with this information.

Only your first and last statements even actually address what I said.
When I said Bern is Rika, I was obviously alluding to her being a version of Rika born out of the events of Rei. Where do you get her being born from Rika before Onikakushi? As for Featherine being Hanyuu, I admit I was pushing it by stating it so matter of fact, but the amount of references and connections to Bern make it just short of being confirmed for me.
>Hanyuu isn’t even a purely meta being
And neither is Ikuko. We know that Featherine has had her memory damaged, and that she likes to live and die in various fragments to stave off the boredom of being immortal. Hence why Featherine is living as Ikuko in Umineko. For all we know, Hanyuu could just be another "life" she lived. All the references on top of this just make it all the more possible that that connection is real.

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>>22997400
i will try to reread ep2 about rosa part.
can you said to me why are you soo sure that chapel scene wasnt meta?

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>>22997274
>>22997414
In short, if there is any relation between Hanyuu and Featherine, it's probably that they belong to the same race of creators/god-like fifth dimensional aliens.

But Featherine is an adult, while Hanyuu is still a young girl (reglardless of how old she got in her human form in order to marry and have a kid). In her real form, Hanyuu is still a kid compared to other people of her species. And on top of that, she is fucking dead and trapped in Hinamizawa. Her situation is completely different from Featherine's, even if they are the same species.

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>>22997426
No, I think it's meta. My point was that it doesn't matter whether it was meta or not because I'm talking about the motivations of piece Beatrice, not the writer of the message bottle. This is also why I got so caught on trying to figure out the motivations for Eva in EP1.

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>>22997417
>Why are you even replying to me with all of this? I never implied the opposite of what you’re saying
You literally said that Ikuko is Hanyuu.

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>>22997440
And literally only your last statement had anything to do with that.

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>>22997417
Your theory cheapens Hanyuu as a character and doesn't even fully make sense. They are not the same in any sense of the word.

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>>22997414
>Since it's all so vague, many people don't get the implication and assume Hanyuu is a totally unexplained character. She's not. So theorizing that she's somehow Featherine requires ignoring her characterization, her whole character arc, her origin and lore, and her rightfully earned place within the Higurashi cast, which was a big deal in Matsuribayashi. It requires considering her a non-character you can attach all sorts of bullshit to, which is simply not the case.
Hanyuu was butchered, but Mion was hurt even more.

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>>22997453
If featherine is living out another life as Hanyuu without any memory, how does that cheapen Hanyuu as a character?

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>>22997439
>No, I think it's meta
so we hate themself for nothing?
sorry again about that.
>the motivations of piece Beatrice
well this isnt the only game where beatrice appier as piece even in game 4 she do that.
so what are the point in common between ep 2 and 4?
a meeting
in ep4 beatrice met battler and in ep2 battler met kinzo....but kinzo is dead right?
so maybe battler really met the head of ushiromiya family..just more young and hot.
so yasu become beatrice piece only when she want a meeting with battler i think.

>his is also why I got so caught on trying to figure out the motivations for Eva in EP1.
eva and hideyoshi arent really accomplice help yasu only for hide shannon fake death then immidiatly get killed.
sad the only reason for accomplice in shkanontrice are money nothing else, how can will accept that?

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>>22997453
I take it Umineko's manga cheapens Hanyuu as well?

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>>22997444
I wanted to make the basis of my explanation clear to anyone reading. Many people have no idea what Hanyuu even is because they either didn't read the VN, the explanations went right over their heads or just don't remember.

I had to explain literally everything to make sure those misconceptions aren't used to "deny" my explanation of Hanyu. I had to explain how everything works beforehand.

But don't worry, I'll shut up and let Italian anon flood the thread alone, baiting people into responding to him and wasting 20 posts to type the same amount of text I neatly packed into a single post.

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>>22997453
This. It reminds me of some people who genuinely think Hideyoshi is one of the three kings. As in, the actual Hideyoshi, not some expy with his face.

How can someone make unironic theories about the literal man from Umineko being one of the kings? It's like they didn't understand anything about EP8. Why the fuck would Hideyoshi be doing evil shit in the meta world when he's basically the ghost of Ange's dead uncle, metaphorically resting in the golden land? It cheapens Umineko.

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>>22997505
>But don't worry, I'll shut up and let Italian anon flood the thread alone, baiting people into responding to him and wasting 20 posts to type the same amount of text I neatly packed into a single post.
why anon?
i am not speak with you, enjoy arguing with other people, why get mad only because you cant win an argument ,discuss and discuss until only one truth will remain alive.

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>>22997505
I apologize, I just reacted out of habit and assumed too much. I’m used to people in these threads not even actually addressing who they’re replying to, so upon seeing everything in your post, I assumed you were a dumbass who thought I was pushing "Ikuko=Sayo and everything is fiction" and you were trying to argue against it. I much prefer long posts that actually say something than Italian anon and the people who reply to him.

>>22997520
Does anyone actually think Hideyoshi is one of the three kings? I thought it was just a meme because he's fat.

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>>22997493
How does the manga contradict Higurashi in any way? If anything, it supports what we know from Matsuribayashi.

Do you really think that manga panel is actually implying Hanyuu is some sort of game master who created Hinamizawa and got stuck in a literal logic error while battling a literal witch in the meta?

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>>22997472
Well as was explained earlier, Eva and Hideyoshi had no idea what was happening. They're being paid to stage an elaborate practical joke. They don't believe anyone is actually dead. Now sure, they're pretty cruel to see everyone get so traumatized, but millions of dollars go a long way to keeping someone's mouth shut when they already believe there's nothing wrong happening.

Of course Yasu will dress up as Beatrice for Battler, but Kyrie also says she saw her in EP3. But ultimately it just means that Yasu only dresses up as Beatrice for special occasions, not just at random.

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>>22997520
>It reminds me of some people who genuinely think Hideyoshi is one of the three kings. As in, the actual Hideyoshi, not some expy with his face.
Isn't that just memeposting, anon? Even if he was literally Hideyoshi, like, if he looked like Hideyoshi and was called Hideyoshi, he would still be a different character from Ciconia. No one would believe Hideyoshi from the Golden Land allied himself with some witch to wreak havoc in another fragment, unironically.
Actually it sounds so ridiculous I kinda want to push it now, as a meme. Are you sure you weren't meme'd from the beginning?

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>>22997536
Oh, you didn't need to apologize. But thank you for being polite and not throwing a bitch fit like some other anons.

Sorry if I sounded rude too.

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>>22997544
A new layer to the meta.
Forget "Was it fake? or did it actually happen?"
Now we have "Is it a meme? Or do people actually believe it?

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I want to come all over Shannon's pads!

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>>22997544
No, they were being serious. And also assumed that Toujirou was actually Tomitake from Higurashi. Like the actual character himself, after the ending of the story. They genuinely thought Tomitake might have frozen himself to be alive in the future and become this guy, along with Takano who is now planning some more evil shit under a different name. The actual Takano from Higurashi, after her semi-happy ending in Matsuribayashi.

Unsurprisingly, this guy only watched the Higurashi anime and read Umineko. He had a completely wrong impression of the Higurashi characters and no emotional attachment to them beyond the main five and "the evil blond bitch whose name I don't remember", so all this crap seemed plausible to him.

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>>22997586
I know of something even better. Glue them to her chest with your cum! Just get her chest a little wet, and that cum will become basically cement!

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>>22997540
money is powerful as motive but here we are in umineko, I would expect only one thing as motive, love.
then eva's behavior is strange, she is really upset when she hears the story of george's ring, then the discussion with battler in which she was really thinking with him giving him numerous clues, not to mention that she fell asleep in the middle of a murder despite having gone to bed early the night before.
but eva is also an accomplice in the third game where she kills 4 people if not more and loses her husband and son, she would really accept all this for money.
(not to mention how long she waited to kill battler, jessica was blinded, nanjo was an accomplice why wait to kill battler?)

>kyrie
kyrie saw beatrice in ep 2, beatrice wanted made battler know about her presence on the island without made him see her(she needed time) so use the person that for battler could not lie.

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Did anyone else spend the entire story waiting for Rosa to accidentally kill Maria during a beating in one of the gameboards?

I was sure it would happen at some point. Seems like the kind of thing Ryu would use to get Rosa in trouble and create drama.

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>>22997633
I never expected that much, but I thought maybe we'd get something where CPS was called on her because of something Maria said to a stranger, and it then created a bad public image for Kinzo and the family.

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>>22997633
>accidentally kill Maria
this is mystery , these craps arent allowed

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>>22997633
I don't think Yasu would write something that cruel, but imagine if that's what happened on Prime. Rosa accidentally kills Maria and convinces everyone that there's a crazy killer on the island, which sets off years of emotional baggage that causes people to start killing each other.

>>22997619
But even in that scenario, there is love. Remember what I said? I believe that Shannon died in the first twilight because Eva demanded it as part of her payment. She loves George, so she doesn't want him to marry Shannon.

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What if one of the servants hid Sayo's pads for Shannon while she was Kanon? She'd be pretty fucked. How would she deal with this situation?

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>>22997684
>She loves George, so she doesn't want him to marry Shannon
yeap this is george motive in my theory.
but cmon did you really think that eva would not saw the dead body of shannon?
she is a buissness woman and shannon was her payment, then why in 1st twilight? why was so important a shannon fast death? she would already die in the end.
really hideyoshi would lie to eva for a stranger?
ecc....

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>>22997696
for 4 or 5 years no one notice that shannon and kanon were the same person,not a parent,not a servant, not all japanese police and not a witchunter.
how?
no person can be so lucky in a mystery

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>>22997696
Water balloons.

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>>22997714
No, Hideyoshi and Eva knew that Shannon was a personality and that she was going to be "killed." There was no body prepared for Shannon because she wasn't intended to die there. Yasu had to tell Hideyoshi just to pretend that Shannon's body was there.

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>>22997757
>eva know about the personality
anon.........cmon........we speak about eva right?
eva have enought love for yasu........to accept that?
eva:hey george remember your sweet gf shannon?
george:yes
eva: well is a mass murder and a man
eva with just these sweet words could made george break with her.

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>>22997723
Why most of these people didn't find out can be too easily explained for it to be some sort of plot hole. My main problem with the Shkanon stuff though is Jessica of all people not finding out. Shannon was his bestie after all. I get she didn't approach Kanon much, and I guess she could have been too nervous during her "date", but still. Not only was she the only one to without any doubt observe both of them carefully, but also totally had to figure out at some point the two of them never shared a turn.

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>>22997794
Not against the oficcial explanation by the way, it's the only one that makes sense to me. I just think Jessica is the weak point of the storyline.

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>>22997784
Maybe she was going to do that after they left Rokkenjima. But again, she is being paid millions of dollars to go along with this. Put yourself in Eva's position. If you had the opportunity to get your son to break up with a terrible match for them, and to be paid millions of dollars to do it, why wouldn't you?

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>>22997801
but consider eva's feelings, she didn't want the money she wanted the position of head of the family, what did yasu propose? the complete destruction of the ushiromiya family for what money?
kinzo would have turned in the grave according to eva, the money will make the glory of the ushiromiya family no.
look at eva when she returned from the island to resurrect ushiromiya society.
risking the life of geroge and hideyoshi for money is not from the person who loves his family most of all on the island.

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>>22997742
>Battler grabs her boobs
>They pop

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>>22997868
Yasu said that it was a prank.

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>>22997923
>prank
a person offer you 2 billion of yen for a prank......
eva saw all her brothers without face......everyone who saw a body with half face understand that he was really dead.
so if eva is an accomplice she really agree to kill everyone.

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>>22997939
She was pretty spooked when she actually saw the bodies, which is why Yasu killed them next. They served their purpose and would become dangerous if they realized that this is no prank.

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The exposedforeveryonetoseeness of Ushiromiya Jessica's hairy pussy!

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>>22997947
>She was pretty spooked when she actually saw the bodies,
if eva was really spooky she would take 3 gund barricade in the room with george and hideyoshi not sleep......sleep and dint notice 2 servant who try to enter in your room.
cmon she understand that the prank was real and didnt do nothing to stop it,

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>>22997939
I don't believe Eva or Hideyoshi saw the bodies when their faces were missing. There's no evidence of this. We only hear of Hideyoshi looking at Shannon. While it's impossible to believe they're alive if you inspect them with their faces missing, Hideyoshi and Eva only saw them when they weren't like that.

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>>22997980
KRAUSS inside the garden shed , didnt cover by anything, everyone who enter in the shed must saw him , saw his dead body with only half of the face.
if beatrice put another body with half of the face there must be a valide motive.

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>>22997957
How would Jessica react if she got stripped naked in front of all her school friends? They admire her so much, and yet they'll lose all respect for her because the image of her pathetic naked ass will be burned into their minds.

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>>22998000
What does this have to do with Hurudo Erigga?

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>>22998000
Where is your evidence that anyone who enters the garden shed has to clearly see Krauss? Where does it say that?

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>>22998012
erikantrice explain all the games with george and kanon as culprits, erika=kanon is used to explain chiru.

beatrice used krauss body for made battler understand that a body with only half face is really death.
george belived that shannon was faking her death,so what if george saw shannon with only half face?
he would understand that she was really death and kanon?splan would fail.

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>>22998029
how can eva enter without saw the bodies?
only shannon was in a place not visible from the outside.
when battler enter in the shed he saw the other bodies.

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>>22998047
Is there any evidence that Eva entered the shed?

I think there's also a distinction between seeing the bodies and inspecting them. From a distance, you can see the shape of a person and guess from their clothes who it is. You can't confirm they're alive or dead until you stand right next to them, like Battler and Nanjo do.

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>>22998070
>Is there any evidence that Eva entered the shed?
when george said about the ring we saw her in shock
so was inside.

here we are not speak about inspection or something else beatrice confirm that EVERYONE SAW not inspect saw a body without half of the face understand that he is really that.

isnt logic or something else is a truth of the author we cant doubt about it or we must doubt about all red truth.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBzlL28hTXo

How do I avoid getting the "EvaXephon syndrome", /07th/?

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>>22997317
pls more of these

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>>22998083
How does Eva being shocked about Shannon wearing a wedding ring prove that she was in the shed? She didn't expect that he was going to propose to her. Hideyoshi was told by Kanon to say that she had a ring when George asked. There was no body.

I still think there is a key difference between seeing something and being able to inspect it closely enough to understand. This is exactly why the adults physically restrain the kids from entering the shed. They don't just say, "Well they saw, might as well let them come in and see everything."

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>>22998115
>How does Eva being shocked about Shannon wearing a wedding ring prove that she was in the shed?
the backgroud was of inside the shed, then battler saw only natsuhi outside the shed.
so for exclusion she must be inside.

>I still think there is a key difference between seeing
eva for understand that krauss is really death must only look down, all the bodies were on the floor of the shed,the shed is relative small even try to not look them is difficult.

sorry but i must go to bad , i really enjoy the discussion with you my friend but most important 90 message made by 13 person, i finnally resurrect these threads.
see you tomorrow

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>>22998153
I had fun too. Have a good night.

[Anonymous No.]

Ciconia Phase 2 in C99?

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>>22998370
>Ciconia
Go back to /v/, crossie.

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>>22998422
me on the right

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>>22998422
Can't see me since I'm hidden by Beato's dress. I'm under Bern's feet.

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>>22998422
me licking ange's zr behind couch

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>>22998523

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>>22998720

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>>22998739
Make your choice

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>>22998778
She's facing the wrong direction.

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>>22998523
>>22998720
>>22998739
>>22998778
>>22998806
Ange is NOT for lewd

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>>22998812
Then who is?

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>>22998812
Tell that to Ange, she's the one proudly displaying her ass so openly!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22998778
Ange is the thighcat.

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>>22998778
Paizuri with Battler's little sister

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>>22998837
So are all the furniture girls

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>>22998886

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>>22998854
Why doesn't Battler just get one himself? I'm pretty sure Ange would be down if he just asked her for one.

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>>22998898
Where'd you get the colored version of this? Send uncensored ver.

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>>22998994
I made it myself
https://imgur.com/a/3EmJNqm

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>>22999067
lambdaanon at the bottom rewarding you for reading borges

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>>22998854
How does a little sister have such big 'sisters'

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>>22998837
How can Ange have human dignity when she walks around with her plump shitter exposed for everyone to see?

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>>22219981
>It's a shit server anyway, the only cool guy is a Brazilian and the rest are usually gay as fuck twitter/reddit users. Fuck you OA you insufferable faggot
I'm glad I'm not the only one. What a miserable little sjw.

[Anonymous No.]

Satoko is a kid! What a loser!

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>>23000286
What were you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

Wait so if Italian anon is still pushing Erikantrice does it mean that nobody has actually managed to completely refute all of his arguments? My heart is waving between the official explanation and his, now. I thought it was a meme at first but while it's messily presented he actually makes valid points, just like the Rosatrice guy did.

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>>23001117
no one can deny george and kanon culprits of the first 4 games.
no one can deny erika culprit for ep 5 and 6.
so they just said:ryukishi confirm shkanontrice.
people arguing against me with the meta-part.
example:explain the duel, explain ep7 ecc.
i think no one really fight me on full mystery arguments because is the strongest and unassailable part of my theory.

in other words i show that my theory is an alternative theory(no one can deny it) but i didnt deny shkanontrice yet, well if shkanontrice can be only the manga one then i already win but if you modify some aspect of manga version i cant fully deny it.

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>>23001212
It's really weird. I've always been more of a mystery person than a fantasy one, but Umineko made me put my eggs in the "fantasy" casket in the end because I used to firmly believe in the conclusions I reached regarding to the human answer with Yasu and the shkanontrice explanation which were set up throughout the entire novel in the fantasy scenes and effectively confirmed in the meta, "proving" me right. As you're probably already aware, Umineko and the story it wanted to tell doesn't only rely on the more meaty aspects of the murders but what story Yasu, then Tohya wanted to tell in their writings. I haven't read your manifesto fully yet so I wonder where do you position yourself about that. In any case, it's really amazing to think that a theory like yours could pop up in recent years. I hope that you and many other readers will show as much enthusiasm for Ciconia When phase 2 will be a thing.

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>>23001300
>it's really amazing to think that a theory like yours could pop up in recent years
really thanks, i really like when people understand that my theory isnt shitposting or others (yes i made memes but is only for advertising) sadly i read umineko to late so, too time passed for made people change idea easy, but i dont lose hope.
i think that with arguing i can made people at least doubt about shkanontrice , made them reread umineko again with my theory in mind and then maybe they will understand why i belive so much in my theory.

>Yasu, then Tohya wanted to tell in their writings. I haven't read your manifesto fully yet so I wonder where do you position yourself about that
i try to give a real conterpart to every meta-scenes.
this is why i use ikuko=yasu and bernkastle= kyrie culprit theory.

so all umineko is just the magic version of ikuko wrote stories to made battler remember.

>I hope that you and many other readers will show as much enthusiasm for Ciconia When phase 2 will be a thing.
sadly ciconia wasnt in italian, i notice that if you didnt read in your native language you cant understand the real meaning of some sentence , so i really doubt to solve ciconia but at least i want to try.

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>>23001212
>>23001117
Hope you are being ironic, anon. He just totally twists any good point against him. He's like a kid in a playground who doesn't want to lose in some make believe fight. I won't deny the idea of Erika being yet another mask of Yasu is interesting, but Erikantrice, just as Rosatrice, depends too much on Ryukishi deliberatively trying to trick us for no reason at all. This is just the most obvious point of course. More particular points are brought up almost every thread, but then again, he justs twists everything without any care for the thematic side.

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>>23001922
>depends too much on Ryukishi deliberatively trying to trick us for no reason at all

nope fuck ididnt give a shit about what ryukishi said.
my theory respect all the red truth, didnt need any external support like shkanontrice ,just the VN source material.

>He just totally twists any good point against him
>he justs twists everything without any care for the thematic side.
what and when?
i always argue about my points and give to them real motives for their validity.
made example?
pls just pls not said muh ryukishi confirm shkanontrice with the manga.

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>>23001117
Ryukishi may be careless about Erika being another personality, but he followed Japanese community discussions to adjust his works and alpha Twilight was different. I guess Battler would be indifferent to Beatrice if he had figured Erika=Yasu out. It's a point of the love triangle that Battler didn't love Shannon anymore and nothing would change if Erika would be a potential love interest. But it's hard to deny she isn't involved for presenting Sayo's dilemma. The games don't continued to resolve it but it's easy to conclude what could happen next and in both games Sayo will eventually become a suspect.

[Anonymous No.]

Ushiromiya Angste

Ushiromiya Arse

Humiliatiya Ange

Humanconditia Ange

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>>23001117
made me laugh, thanks

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>>23002968
Are those the names her bullies called her by? Pathetic!

[Anonymous No.]

Human arse is a beautiful wonder of Nature. It was a chance one in trillions that somewhere in the vast, empty universe there formed a magnificent blue planet inhabited by intelligent, arse-having creatures. I'm delighted and honored to be a human being and experience the miracle of shitting.

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>>23004416
I agree.

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>>23004416
The contrast between a cute girl's pride and her arse-having condition is what makes it truly wonderful. Nature itself humiliates and disgraces them! Lewd!

[Anonymous No.]

Kanon is cute and not gay

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>>23004896
>ywn blow Satoko's young mind by making her hyper aware of how shameful it is that she's got an ass that shits and every single person in the world KNOWS
The realization would probably make Satoko feel super awkward and lose her lively personality. The more she stands out and builds up her reputation and ego, the more pathetic she seems in the eyes of someone who remembers her human condition. Which could potentially be anyone at any time! Humiliating! She would probably lose any desire to pull pranks or tell jokes, since she herself is the biggest joke of all.

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>>23005000
Why would you tell her? Isn't it more lewd how many girls, both lolis and teenagers, say things like "LMAO" or "I'm working my butt off" without any shame? They don't realize they are humiliating themselves and providing better fap material than any dirty talking camwhore.

Just the way they bring up the fact that they've got an ass, so casually, in such a matter of fact way, as if they were so used to dealing with their pathetic human condition that they accept it as part of themselves and don't give it a second thought. They have resigned themselves to being pathetic ass-having humans. They no longer have any dignity and they don't care. They just admit outright that they have such a shameful body part and that most people wouldn't want anything to do with it. The admit the possibility of someone being grossed out by their asses. Even though they've got pride and a personality!

[Anonymous No.]

Humiliation anon will create a fucking cult one day. Mark my words.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Italian anon finally gone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23004949
You just know when Battler helps him lift stuff and he says "Even I..." what he thought was "Even I, the Kanon persona, who souldn't know Battler personally, get wet just by having him near"

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>>23005872
I still don't know what he was actually meant to be saying.

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>>23005981
I unironically think Sayo went to meet Battler as Kanon to test how she felt about him in person, after all this time, and found out that even as Kanon she had feelings for him. Alternatively, it wasn't as deliberate, but I still think the "Even I..." means that even Kanon loves Battler, because all of Sayo does.

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>>23005994
That's a nice theory.

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>>/jp/thread/S18545587#p18563766

I just found this old thread where humiliation anon posted. Every single one of his posts is amazing.

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>>23005872
Even i was the clichè you didnt remember me.
Probably kanon:"you do the same 6 years ago and now you help me again and i fallen in love again"

Then...legend of the Golden witch battler meeting
Kanon:shy,didnt look him in the eyes,cant speak with him and make you didnt remember me clichè
Shannon:hey battler i didnt see you for years wanna touch my tits?(in front of george).
I think kanon actions are better suited for a person who cant love battler anymore.

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>>23006580
I'm pretty sure Shannon regrets giving Beatrice the seed of love. That's why Kanon tries to reject Battler.
I guess he was trying to say "Even I, I love him" because of Battler's favor.

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>>23007456
>Even I, I love him
Yes this is what he mean
>I'm pretty sure Shannon regrets giving Beatrice the seed of love. That's why Kanon tries to reject Battler.
Yasu regreet isnt that she wanted love battler but the contrary, he become everything battler must didnt love.
Black hair, flat chest, introverted personality and a MALE , she try even to find the love in jessica but nothing when she saw him ,when battler helped her she understood that even divide her personality could not stop her love.

[Anonymous No.]

The true point of these threads is slowly watching the italian autist learn proper english

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>>23007492
>Yasu regreet isnt that she wanted love battler but the contrary, he become everything battler must didnt love.
Wasn't there a confession of Battler he dated guys?
Dunno Kanon was described as handsome by Jessica's friends, and they found Kanon's cold behaviour cool (like some male MC's from Final Fantasy). Kanon being a boy isn't excuse for Battler not approaching him. It was Yasu's biased idea Battler isn't interested into boys or flat chested girls. Beatrice was a weird mix of Battler's "ideal woman", their common interest and the rotten love seed Shannon gave away (her anger towards the family and Battler) or to be positive, the (extreme) tsundere side.

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>>23009179
>Wasn't there a confession of Battler he dated guys?
when? i remember that battler never date a girl because he found annoying girl who belive in supernatural ecc..
why?
because he never forgot his first love the girl who loved mystery novel like him.
>Dunno Kanon was described as handsome by Jessica's friends
in many anime highschool girls label as handsome a tomboy girls.
>and they found Kanon's cold behaviour cool
this (insert girl who act as male) is so cool aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah (fangirl screaming).
watch any girl-anime and you find this
(i put a pic a perfect example of anime Kanon type girl in anime)

>Beatrice was a weird mix of Battler's "ideal woman"
battler i love girls with:
big tits
blond hair
tomboy personality
beatrice is a perfect pair
then yasu: i cant love battler anymore so why put gigant tis on shannon?
kanon is perfect for not be notice by battler.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23008978
Isn't he same as the beginning? Imagine if he used half of the time he wastes on defending Erikantrice every day in properly studying English

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>>23009179
>Wasn't there a confession of Battler he dated guys?
based anon trolling the troll

[Anonymous No.]

So who were Bern and Lamda supposed to represent? The higurashi characters had nothing to do with this, so were they just there for the plot and a representation of characters internal motivations or something?

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>>23010929
Mostly meta characters. They also connect Umineko to Higurashi (as "games"), that terrible manga that's also part of the When They Cry series and potentially Ciconia. But they don't have actual, strong irl counterparts.
Although, well, you have that Certainty, both as the witch and as the bomb that certainly kills everyone is each scenario, are what allows Beato to be a witch. And Bern is Ikuko's cat. Yeah.

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Gunhills

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>>23011026
I hope she doesn't mind my train traveling through her valley.

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>>23011040
Taking the scenic route, are you?

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>>23010929
well in my theory bern is the kyrie culprit theory.
like beatrice and erika said witches are created by the union of human stories.
people quickly got tired of suspecting eva(eva-beatrice) and when they discovered the illegal actions of kyrie and rudolf they began formulating theories about them as culprits, little by little the stories became many and created bernkastle.
this explains her relationship with ange and why she want to defeat beatrice.
if the magic of rokkenjima is denied she will be recognized as the only true solution. for ange her life was ruined by the kyrie theory, her schoolmates used that theory as a reason to bully her, this explains the close relationship of bernkastle with ange and why I want to see her suffer so much.

I don't know about lambda.
if bern is kyrie then lambda could be asumu.
this is supported by the fact that in hell who lived bernkastle to become a witch a miracle saved her as kyrie a miracle killed asumu.
so rika defeated takano with a miracle, kyrie defeated asumu with a miracle
takano = asumo, lambda = asumu
but the problem that lambda is very tied to beatricie so much to know the truth and support battler during the game, so I wouldn't know for lambda but for bernkastle I'm pretty sure

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>>23011092
>if bern is kyrie then lambda could be asumu.
grasping at straws here, erikanon

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>>23011078
how is Chloe so sexual? I'm sure she loves Okonogi because he is the only adult make he knows who justs hits her a little, instead of violently raping her.

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>>23011123
>grasping at straws
i know that is forced , but i cant explain lambda and this seem the only possible solution.
maybe asumu become yasu friend before her death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23011136
Huge boobs + comic relief + submissive

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>>23011136
Chloe looks like she has a really hairy pussy.

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>>23011201
just the way I like it

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>>23011151
>i know that is forced , but i cant explain lambda and this seem the only possible solution.
maybe asumu become yasu friend before her death.
Please let's work with clues that are actually presented. Not to mention Asumu is the new witch from Saku.

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>>23011227
>Not to mention Asumu is the new witch from Saku.
really.........ok but i must explain 2 things for lambda.
1) lambda is really close to bern
2)lambda is beatrice best friend
ok with ikuko=yasu maybe lambda are the witch-hunters around the globes, the people who find the truth about the case and wrote stories about that and maybe many of them liked kyrie culprit theory.
so lambda is internet

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>>23011227
>>23011264
lambda's goal was to make the game last forever as an online community that tries not to disappear then according to battler, battler culrpit was the most popular theory right? so most people online support a theory where the ange family is the culprit.
this explains a little the love between lambda and bern

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>tfw we already have substitute WTC doujins even for Ciconia

Loli Sayo with a dickpussy gets bullied and humiliated by classmates in front of a cucked Batora:

https://exhentai.org/g/1036139/90a0728819/

Rosa sells Maria's body to fat old men and they rape her smelly loli ass in front of Sakutaro:

https://exhentai.org/g/137625/e6976b707c/

Chloe is forced to expose her awkward big tits and hairy pussy in front of the entire school. The sequel is even more pathetic:

https://exhentai.org/g/902944/0dcf837291/

https://exhentai.org/g/1402404/8091415ba9/

Bern and Lambda incarnate as two psychopathic 12 year olds and humiliate a fat dude (still incomplete):

https://exhentai.org/g/922994/1fd1f4b247/

Bern and Lambda's loli incarnations keep acting like cunts until they get kidnapped, raped, tortured and murdered by hobos for burning their dog alive:

https://exhentai.org/g/849984/8d65caa4b4/

Bern and Lambda come back as two different lolis and bury a cat alive. They try to blackmail an old dude for the kicks and end up meeting an even worse fate than before:

https://exhentai.org/g/852331/7852e47348/

Some bully bitch from Higanbana gets what she deserves, which involves humiliation, torture, scat and being turned into a diaper-wearing quadruple-amputee before being sold into slavery:

https://exhentai.org/g/911162/732ee1ea67/

https://exhentai.org/g/1119534/63d2246ca2/

[Anonymous No.]

>>23011482
That Chloe looks like the real thing. Wow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23006334
I miss him

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>>23012308
Do it Battler.
Squeeze them.

[Anonymous No.]

you're all morons & lack love

[Anonymous No.]

>>23011482
Guglielmo = Humiliation Anon = Ryuukishi

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>>23012994
You say as you post the ultimate anti-love comradery.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have any of xaki's Akoustika albums?

They have some really great arranges of 07th Expansion songs, like this one https://youtu.be/mtiuqNQVTYc but, the albums are extremely hard to find.

There are apparently 13 of them but I've only been able to find the first one and XII. I found a used copy of III too and I'll upload it whenever it gets here, but if anyone can share any of the other ones I'd really appreciate it.

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>>23013667
Will assume you've looked on private trackers and nyaa. Have you checked soulseek?

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>>22997794
I think they address it with the part where Shannon pranks Jessica but Jessica refuses to believe it so she doesn't think about it.

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>>23007492
>>23010520
Not he did confessed it but he casually mentioned dating both genders. I skimmed through 1-4 beach and first guesthouse scenes but didn't find anything. Though Battler isn't gay he could be bisexual.

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>>23014462
Anon where?
In the manga? In the vn i never read that.
But the most insult in your post is battler could love anyone except yasu.
Where is love?
The love between battler and yasu is eternal, for 6 years they suffer the same pain for an act of envyness made by george who mistake the situation.
The greatest love story ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>23014479
Uhm the only line I had found was when Ronove and Battler greeted for the first time. Battler blushed when Ronove get close.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23015088
remember that ronove is genji and genji loved kinzo..
battler look like young kinzo so this is why ronove is so gay for battler.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22997794
Jessica refuses to acknowledge ideas she finds disturbing. She may have thought they looked similar, but the idea of them being the same person was absurd to her, so she assumed it was a coincidence.

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The fact that Jessica doesn't want to die is just mindblowing! She's so cute, and yet she hates the idea of being killed because she wants to remain alive so she can keep eating, drinking, masturbating and eventually take Kanon's dick! Lewd! Pathetic! She enjoys life's pleasures so much, she'll actually defend herself with violence if her life is threatened! What a pig!

Not wanting to die is pathetic, especially if you are a cute girl! Whenever Jessica gets all pissed at the culprit who is killing everybody, she is indirectly admitting that she enjoys living in her ridiculous human body!

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>>23015846
>tfw edgy teenage Ange literally ONLY exists because loli Ange got diarrhea and missed the conference

Isn't that pathetic? If Ange had gone to the conference, she would've died with her family. If the crime hadn't happened, Ange would've become a completely different person as an adult.

And yet, she became an angsty, grumpy emo girl who doesn't take shit from anyone. The kind of girl that would NEVER admit she does something as pathetic as pooping. She's too cool for that. Which is ironic because she only developed this edgy personality as a result of shitting syrup out her ass for a week straight when she was a loli. Pathetic.

Edgy teen Ange literally cannot exist without that event taking place. Her very existence is tied to a bad case of diarrhea that exposes her shameful human condition. Without that humilating past, Ange as we know her wouldn't exist and would instead be a different person with a totally different personality.

Across all the fragments, it's literally impossible for this badass version of Ange to exist without having gone through that pathetic experience. It is a requirement. She can't be cool and have dignity at the same time.

Not only that, but her bullies probably teased her about it too. It's a well known fact that this event ruined her life. And I'm sure the talk shows keep mentioning how Ange escaped harm because she was sick with diarrhea that day. EVERYBODY KNOWS.

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>>23011026
I like how this slut has big tits but absolutely no ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23012308
DEEN Jessica is kinda hot because she has that cheap, poorly animated hentai anime look.

[Anonymous No.]

She smiled wryly... like a puppet with its strings cut

[Anonymous No.]

I want to fuck Satoko's medulla oblongata!

[Anonymous No.]

i want to lick bern's pussy

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>>23011482
>https://exhentai.org/g/902944/0dcf837291/
>https://exhentai.org/g/1402404/8091415ba9/
Holy FUCK. She does look like Chloe. But it's such an extreme level of humiliation that it verges on cringe-porn, which makes me feel bad for her.

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>>23014462
I really doubt he actually said that, it would be too memorable for anyone to forget (including myself) and people would be mentioning it more if it were the case
>>23014349
>>23015484
Well, I can't say this doesn't fit. A bit convenient but convincing enough.
>>23016669
Based
>>23016700
>>23016750
Cringe

On a side note, I wonder what kind of scenario Sayo ended up choosing in Prime. I mean, we know she didn't kill anybody after all, since the adults solved the epitaph and all, but she must had already chosen one of her plans as her main guide by that point. At least for the First Twilight. I wonder if she maybe had already picked her adult accomplices even? Not really important I guess, but it makes me curious.

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>>23013940
I've checked pretty much everywhere there is to check.
Normally, I wouldn't even be asking like this but I figured if anyone could point me in the right direction, it would be someone in these threads.

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[Anonymous No.]

shkanontrice violation to red truth:

ep 2:
genji killed nanjo and kumasawa
red truth:>a servant cant be culprit
impossible genji cant kill them

ep3:
shannon become kanon and fake his death in the chapel
red truth:>There is no means of locking the doors and windows of those six rooms without the keys
no master key can close the chapel so is impossible for kanon close the chapel.

ep 4:
kyrie and her group are killed by shkanon
red truth:>Kanon is dead. Among the five people in Kyrie's group, he was the first to die. In short, he was the 9th victim.
person mean body so kyrie's body,krauss's body, nanjo's body and yasu's body
miss one.

literrally violate the red truth but didnt matter until fit well in one scene of meta.
at least admit that manga solution is fucking retarted

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>>23018039
>EP2
Shannon could just have killed guided them somewhere and killed them without Gohda knowing and before Rosa came
>EP3
The VN line is tricky, since it doesn't really denies a manual lock the chapel seems to have. The rewording of the manga seems kinda dumb, but maybe it hints at the probable fact the chapel isn't even an actual closed room. Krauss and Natsuhi are accomplices in EP3 after all, they can fake it, pretending to open the door with the key.
>EP4
>Person means body
No

I'll tell you the truth, I do believe some parts of the manga are dumb, namely some added scenes and Will's "explanations". And yeah, I know the manga implies Genji kills him Kumasawa and Genji. Which, isn't totally out of character, you could even bullshit your way out of your red by saying he's not a culprit, just an accomplice serving as a tool, knowing his unique form of thinking, but I personally don't like the scenario at all. Still, I don't think that red truth applies, remember it's only used in ANOTHER story.

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>>23014349
What prank are you talking about?

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>>23018138
people said to me, ryukishi in an interview said that what is in the manga is the truth of umineko.
now i found many problems with that, so ryukishi lied and another solution could be found.

.>genji
remember the red truth of bernkastle
>Genji, Kumasawa, and Nanjo are not culprits
i know this is valid for ep 1 but this is a great riddle , here ryukishi said who are the accomplices and that if you didnt kill you are not a culprit.

>ep3
the problem that all the group confirm that they were all toghether when inspect all the room, so not only eva,hideyoshi,nanjo,krauss and natushi are accomplice but even kyrie and rudolf so another everyone is the culprit.

>peron mean body
red truth:
>Of course. Three people--in other words, three bodies--went in or out
if a person isnt a body then i didnt need kyrrie body for my theory.

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>>23018154
Not believing in Beatrice and the ghost story that she appears in the VIP room at 2 AM (?), Jessica goes one night (I think she told Shannon before?), and just as she enters the phone sounds, with Maria talking to her as if she was Beatrice, and then the power goes up and a shadow laughs, gets out of the room and the doll that was there disappears. Jessica can easily explain it as some elaborated prank from the servants, but they willing to do that something like that is so unlikely it's even more creepy that the witch, from her point of view. So she just tries to forget it.
>>23018194
>i know this is valid for ep 1
It is, so I still mantain my argument
>the problem that all the group confirm that they were all toghether when inspect all the room, so not only eva,hideyoshi,nanjo,krauss and natushi are accomplice but even kyrie and rudolf so another everyone is the culprit.
It isn't exactly hard or VERY suspicious to pretend to open the door with the key, with it being unlocked, and not saying anything about it, in particular in a moment of tension. Kyrie shows signs of suspecting Natsuhi and Krauss latter on the game too, so maybe he wasn't so good at it after all.
>Of course. Three people--in other words, three bodies--went in or out
Very circunstancial. Both "three people, in other words, Brian, James and Carolina did X" and "three people, in other words, Lucy, Carol and Harold did X", could be true, and in both cases "three people" means different things.
>people said to me, ryukishi in an interview said that what is in the manga is the truth of umineko.
now i found many problems with that, so ryukishi lied and another solution could be found.
Honestly, even if there were small "mistakes" it doesn't mean it doesn't convey the "truth". This is very easy to understand for anyone without autism, anon. The VN is obviously the main product, and the manga isn't an exact copy since the moment it's a manga and not a VN, so the manga it's the "truth" in a more broad sense that you seem to think it should be. I do believe some parts of the manga are outright "wrong", actually, but the overall solution it tries to tell us is the very same the VN does. It's the truth in that sense.

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>>23018243
God, I totally messed up that first paragraph. Hopefully it's still understandable.

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>>23018247
forgive to me about bad english
cmon anon.

>It is, so I still mantain my argument
think genji as a father figure for kanon, he accept to die for him but kill, kill is a seriuos thing without a real motive in a mistery kill must be forbidden,

ep3:
we speak about the door of the chapel, not a normal door big as a human , but a very very big door, then kyrie and rudolf arent idiots and know very well fraud.
kyrie suspect of hideyoshi for the cigarette, too clichè for yasu, but a nice bait for made her going in to the trap.
then remember that only 2 rifles works rosa and eva rifle.

"three people" means different things.
remember that erika didnt made protest or something else for her after hear that truth person become body.
(ok if erika is dumb than this is explained)

> I do believe some parts of the manga are outright "wrong", actually, but the overall solution it tries to tell us is the very same the VN does. It's the truth in that sense.
this is very sad, why ruin the greatest opera ever made for appiel normie, like in many american tv series where add sex everywhere to bait people,but the problem here arent change some "red truth for made stupid people understand" but in ep7 they put a total different version of the solution , how can ryukishi allow this if shkanontrice is the truth.
ex:author:ryukishi genji killed nanjo and kumasawa?
ryukishi:no you really read umineko?
author:nope but i draw a cool scene so didnt matter how really happened

cmon ryukishi loved money so much to accept this?

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>>23018343
>forgive to me about bad english
Don't worry, I was talking about my own errors, not yours. You COULD use some of the time you spend discussing this stuff in studying a little English, though.
>think genji as a father figure for kanon, he accept to die for him but kill, kill is a seriuos thing without a real motive in a mistery kill must be forbidden,
I mean, being an inconditional knowing accomplice isn't really better at all, in this situation, if you're going by the moral part of it. I still think Shkanon works well without Genji being the murderer though, as I said before. I was just pointing out I don't think the manga solution is impossible.
>we speak about the door of the chapel, not a normal door big as a human, but a very very big door, then kyrie and rudolf arent idiots and know very well fraud.
It doesn't really matters how big it is, the lock should be about the same size as any other door, most likely. We don't really get a description anyways, it's pointless to argue about that point.
I know Kyrie suspected Hideyoshi and Eva from the cigarrette. I'm talking about Kyrie's (possible) suspicions of Krauss, who she didn't want to get involved in threatening Hideyoshi, in my opinion at least partially because she picked up he was probably involved somehow (Natsuhi and Krauss acted quite off in a lot of points in EP3 after all). Also, remember the adults all thought the linked closed rooms were fake murders. If we're going that way, Kyrie suspecting Krauss from a supposed incapacity for pretending to unlock an already unlocked door but not saying anything just yet, since she didn't even believe the murders were real in the first place, isn't out of character at all. I'm kind of presenting this argument just for the sake of arguing though, since I don't really believe pretending the door was closed is THAT hard of a thing for Krauss to do. I guess it's devil proof at the end of the day. But the clues for my method to be possible exist, I believe.
>"three people" means different things. remember that erika didnt made protest or something else for her after hear that truth person become body.
Why would she? I don't follow your reasoning on this one. In any case, Erika IS pretty incompetent in EP5, after all. Just think about how her main theory is based upon Kinzo being alive.
>this is very sad, why ruin the greatest opera ever made for appiel normie
Kek, what do normies have to do with anything, actual normies don't even touch otaku stuff that isn't Naruto or One Piece
Also, I'm not a umineko-manga-production expert, but if I had to guess I'd say Ryukishi "the manga is the truth" assertion is talking about EP8 more than anything.

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>>23018138
>Krauss and Natsuhi are accomplices in EP3
I think so too, but I find it funny how they are the only ones seemingly neither being active accomplices aware of the murders (as Rosa and probably Kyrie) nor becoming murderers themselves (Eva, Rudolf, Kyrie). Truly the best and purest parents.

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>>23018727
>You COULD use some of the time you spend discussing this stuff in studying a little English, though.
i learn english with memes so this is the best i can do
>genji
yes, shkanon could be good if you change every manga solution , sadly is impossible remove everyone is the culprit.
i liked genji character , the best friend of kinzo who really love him and reverse this love in kanon. sadly that ryukishi didnt wrote about that.
> the door
yes is a devil proof, there arent red truth that explain if is possible or not fake a closed door but yasu is a mistery novel lover so:

ep1)fake closed door for eva and hideyoshi murder
ep2)fake closed door for the chapel
ep3)fake closed door for the chaple again

i really doubt that a mistery novel accept to reuse a trick so much time, and with reuse tricks you lost all the advantages of different culprits in different games, if i can use different culprit i can use many different trick.

>krauss and natsuhi
well anon i cant deny you well done argument but but the problem is that now there are too many culprits
it is not exactly elegant as a solution and following the riddle of wolves and sheep the guilty have exceeded the number of innocent people.

>based upon Kinzo being alive.
why? for humilate natsuhi with the sexual relationship between them, a dumb action for a detective become the smartest one for a culprit who hate natushi.

>actual normies don't even touch otaku stuff that isn't Naruto or One Piece
these are normalfags
normies are redditors who didnt know nothing and act as experts.
example: i read the manga so i can deny your theory for me these sentence is like i watch umineko anime and i can deny your theory
but manga and anime cut many things but at least anime didnt change and add nothing.

>Also, I'm not a umineko-manga-production expert, but if I had to guess I'd say Ryukishi "the manga is the truth" assertion is talking about EP8 more than anything.
this say a lot about manga quality

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>>23018789
>sadly is impossible remove everyone is the culprit.
I mean, Yasu does have a lot of accomplices, sure: Genji, Kumasawa, Nanjo, Maria, one parent couple, sometimes Gohda. I'm okay with it but I can see why people would have problems with it.
>i liked genji character
I like him too, but his moral compass is completely broken and it shows.
>i really doubt that a mistery novel accept to reuse a trick so much time, and with reuse tricks you lost all the advantages of different culprits in different games, if i can use different culprit i can use many different trick.
Just curious, what is your solution for the chapel's murder then? Since Kanon is the culprit in your theory too and all.
>why? for humilate natsuhi with the sexual relationship between them, a dumb action for a detective become the smartest one for a culprit who hate natushi.
I see, well, I guess that's a point indeed.
>this say a lot about manga quality
I guess so. It's known, though, that each volume has its own mangaka, with some repeating names.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22997957
What's the order of pussy hairyness in Umineko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23018914
Very hairy: Natsuhi, Cornelia, Mammon, Chiester 45, Kasumi, Ange, Beatrice II
Normal hairy: Eva, Jessica, Gertrude, Lucifer, Satan, Belphegor, Chiester 00, Virgilia, Bernkastel, Featherine/Ikuko, Beatrice I, Beatrice (meta)
Slightly hairy: Kumasawa, Evatrice, Erika, Asmodeus, Beelzebub, Levia, Chiester 410, Lambda, Furfur/Zepar (whichever is female)
Not hairy at all: Rosa, Maria, Shannon, Dlanor, Gaap

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>>22996477
I want Asmodeus to stamp on my cock, absolutely annihilate my testicles, just crushing my fleshy balls under her boot, I want Asmodeus to plant her kneecap into my scrotum so hard that every individual sperm cell flies out at once, and the force of my cum rips my urethral walls apart, I want Asmodeus to just fucking bash my cock and balls repeatedly, over and over again, relentlessly, while i throw up with each and every strike, until they're barely recognizable, just a pile of flesh, I want her to just fucking stamp them into the ground for so long that my genitals are practically shredded meat on the ground, all over her boots, just blood and cum and vomit everywhere, thanks.

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>>23019000
If only Eva and Luci were very hairy too, then it would be perfection. The very gairy group would be all I'd need.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23019000
>410 shaving at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>23019000
But what about armpits?

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>>23019000
Beatrice Castiglioni has the hairiest pussy, with a 1940s golden bush straight out of Rose Guns Days.

She is also best Beato and the only one I find hot. Probably because she's a hot, pathetic human with a great personality and not some incorporeal meta witch or a mentally crippled recluse.

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>>23019000
Shouldn't Rosa have a jungle since her hand is the only thing going down there most days?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23019428
Bush is only lewd on an awkward young girl who is embarrassed by her animalistic mammalian body.

Rosa is already past 30, she doesn't give a fuck.

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>>23019000
>Gaap
>bald
Dude, she looks like she has the hairiest pussy of them all. Something about her hairstyle makes me think she's got a massive curly bush down there.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Chiester 00 so bad and pointless? Even Gaatorudo is more likeable and memorable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23019352
>tfw every single girl in RGD has a natural 40s hairy pussy straight out of a Colorclimax porno, even if they are teenage tomboys, innocent potato girls or slutty shortstacks
Mindblowing.

[pfeldspar No.]

Interrupting the bush conversation to post some oc.

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of RGD, why exactly was Xiaolan made so much older in the manga? She is 13 at most in the VN, and very underdeveloped, but the manga makes her look much taller as if she's 16 or something.

Any reason for this weird change?

[pfeldspar No.]

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>>23011482
What the actual fuck, why is Chloe taking off her panties first? Even if she's embarrassed by her massive tits, she can't possibly be more comfortable exposing her hairy pussy for everyone to see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23019533
>she doesnt give a fuck
Exactly why she'd have a bush.

[pfeldspar No.]

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>>23019571
>>23019586
Really nice art style.

Now that I think of it, how come discord sjws always draw the same horrible manfaces no matter who they are? It's not just a Jichan thing, literally every tumblrina draws the exact same horrid manfaces that can't possibly look good even to them.

Is it intentional? I don't believe they genuinely think it looks good.

[pfeldspar No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>23019602
Oh, but don't misunderstand, I'm not referring to your art. It has good faces. I was just looking for a chance to bring up the topic because it baffles me.

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>>23019597
Motherfucker looks so badass with a hand in his pocket, even though he just got it accidentally glued to it and can't pull it out.

[pfeldspar No.]

Last ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLUBcUAphlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDpVPVDwAT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNxIL0pONG0

>>23019602
Thanks!

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>>23019614
It's glued OR he's playing pocket pool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23019543
I hate her since she ruin the magic side of the chess table, there aren't pieces that come in three

[Anonymous No.]

>>23018830
>Just curious, what is your solution for the chapel's murder then? Since Kanon is the culprit in your theory too and all
Simple kanon kill the 6 , put them in the chapel,close the chapel,put the chapel key in an envelop,put the envelop in maria's bag and take the old one.
No red truth forbit to give to maria more envelop and in these game there are many envelps

[Anonymous No.]

>>22997784
r07 said george would be willing to change his plans for the future.

R: "And I think people who do not know that, will sadly never understand Umineko. Because Umineko is "the story of a single girl who arrived at that point because she imagined an incident because of the love and madness in herself", no matter how much I express that, people who don't share that feeling will never do so. If I had to compare it, it's similar to a kick in the crotch or menstrual pain. No matter how much more I pile up on my writing by explaining it, it won't reach the people who don't know the feeling. How scary must it be, to be told that your partner "wants children", when you have a body that cannot make love. That's why Shannon couldn't speak honestly. Because she thought she would be hated if she were honest. But to be honest, I think if she really told him that, George would be more than happy to modify his plans for the future."

https://umineko.fandom.com/wiki/Answer_to_the_Golden_Witch

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>>23020249
First is a wiki link so made by a backbunner.
Second
>the story of a single girl who arrived at that point because she imagined an incident because of the love and madness in herself
Yasu after george destroy the letters think that battler forgot her.
Suit perfect.

>That's why Shannon couldn't speak honestly. Because she thought she would be hated if she were honest. But to be honest, I think if she really told him that, George would be more than happy to modify his plans for the future."
Speak about yasu to george, he would be happy to know that her never love battler and modify his plan to kill everyone

Fuck erikantrice suit everywhere

[Anonymous No.]

Why did K1 job to Batora?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23019000
>410
>slightly hairy

[Anonymous No.]

>>23020530
because there can be only one true breast sommelier

[Anonymous No.]

Ange

[Anonymous No.]

lewdpostint is boring and redundant unless I happen to be horny while it's happening in which case it's welcoming so only lewdpost when I'm horny please

[Anonymous No.]

>>23021686
How do we know when you're horny? Can you announce it for us?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23021669
Deserves humiliation

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[Anonymous No.]

>>23020538
This is how I always imagined 410. She's the kind of exhibitionist that confidently exposes herself with a smug face but is also blushing hard. She is super ashamed but actually enjoys that feeling and is determined to let everyone see her goods. And of course, she keeps her pussy hairy to make her naked body look even more wild, pathetic and obscene to the eye.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23020179
talking about kanon's murder in EP3

[Anonymous No.]

>>23020289
>Fuck erikantrice suit everywhere
lol of course it will fit if you force it everywhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>23022253
o sorry
closed room circle:
kanon put kinzo body in the boiler than closed the room without put a key.
kinzo is the start and the end of the circle.
then kanon complete the circle and fake his death in the chapel, meanwhile nanjo closed the chapel from the outside then when the parents enter in the boiler room he faked to find the chapel key.

>muh nanjo cant fake to find a key
the key was found in an envelop , remember in ep 1 when everyone left alive was in kinzo's study and a envelop appier?
so ryukishi confirm that an accomplice can put an envelop in the room without no one notice.
even battle the detective was here!!!

>muh even shknaontrice can use these trick
nope before go in the chapel shkanon fake his death in the mansion parlor from that moment all the parents group + nanjo were toghether so is impossible that an accomplice could leave these group and close the chapel without no one notice

[Anonymous No.]

>>23021905
What's with the hideous bilinear resample? Post the original.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23017870
Here, for (You). https://anonfile.com/x9j6p3bfo5/_2013.05.06_Umineko_no_Naku_Koro_ni_Arrange_Album_Akoustika_II_BFCD-0015_zip

[Anonymous No.]

>>23022266
Erika happens to be a suitable variable. Maybe it's to deep for people or they rather Erika as a standalone character because it's surprising them people see her as a persona (intentionally hateable) of Sayo (sympathic and tragic after EP5). These people often read Umineko in easy mode: believing everything of the solution. However, a discerning reader can solve "unofficial" mysteries. E.g. proving Natsuhi's innocence without Battler's theory (or the mastermind) or presenting other culprits in Bern's game. Claiming those theses and people calling you out for claiming bs. (technically, they aren't wrong)

[Anonymous No.]

>>23022872
Ryukishi 07 are you here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23022888
Digits confirm that r07 confirmed erikantrice

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>>23022893
Wait wait fuck fuck now i remember
When erika take natsuhi diary?
Natsuhi said to her that her room was in second floor right?
But after that erika start the requiem against natsuhi, so she didnt had time to search the room in the second floor and search the diary in the room.
So erika must know the diary from the start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23021928
Gosh-literally-darn! 410 sure is lewd!

[Anonymous No.]

>>23022888
Noooo

[Anonymous No.]

The fact that it's even possible to imagine Ange being fucked silly is just mindblowing. She's so badass, and yet she can be imagined like that!

[Anonymous No.]

It's been 10 years of hating EP8 now

[Anonymous No.]

>>23022738
Oh shit. Thanks.
Now to find IV - XI and XIII

[Anonymous No.]

So, I felt like sketching Chloe.
Best Ciconia girl by a landslide

[Anonymous No.]

>>23024347
She's a big girl

[Anonymous No.]

If the Hanyuu/Featherine character in Ciconia is the cat cunt I will be pissed, best wife doesn't deserve this

[Anonymous No.]

>>23024347
Great work!

[Anonymous No.]

>>23024563
She's the biggest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23024673
Seshat is obviously Bern

The Hanyuu expy will be Naima. She'll take off the hijab at some point to reveal her purple hair.

[Anonymous No.]

Maria has a cute anus.

[Anonymous No.]

Rena and the Sonozaki twins are captured by a savage tribe of cannibals. The tribe ties the girls up and the chief approaches and explains "you must each pass a test, or we will kill and eat you. Go into the forest and bring back 10 fruits to begin the test."

The girls are cut loose and sent off into the jungle. Rena finds a lemon tree and begins taking lemons down, gathering them up in the folds of her dress. Shion finds a cherry tree and begins removing the fruits. Mion finds a pineapple bush and begins collecting pineapples.

Soon, Rena returns with 10 lemons. The chief stands her up on a small platform in front of all the villagers and explains "If you can squeeze all 10 fruits up your ass, we will let you live."

So Rena begins trying to shove the lemons up her butt. She gets 2 in, and about halfway through the third she can't take it anymore and fails, she pulls it out and the other two lemons fall out of her. The tribesmen then ambush her and throw her screaming into a large boiling pot of water and shut the lid on top, effectively killing her.

Just then Shion returns with her cherries. She too is stood on the platform and explained the rules. She manages to squeeze 8 cherries into her asshole. Just as she managed to fit the ninth one in, she suddenly erupted into laughter as all the cherries came blasting out of her ass. The tribesman scoop her up and drag her to the pot. Before they can toss her in, the chief commands them to stop. He approaches and asks her: "you were so close, why did you start laughing?"

Shion pointed over toward the clearing at Mion, who was now approaching, and said "Look over there! I saw sis coming out of the jungle!".

[Anonymous No.]

>>23025816
>implying this isn't canon
Reminder that Bernkastel has a grudge against Shion for what she did to her that one time. And she has the power to find a fragment where somehow the three friends end up in that situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23022411
Blame Twitter

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>23025913
Rena > Mion > K1 > Shion > Rika > Hanyu >>> Shitoko & Shitoshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>23025863
Why are so many artists abandoning Pixiv to post on Twitter? It's a fucking mess and old stuff simply gets lost. It only makes it harder so save all their stuff before they, being autistic ass japs, inevitably delete their account for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23025924
>Mion not the best
Dude, I'm the biggest fucking pedo ever and even I admit that Mion is better than literally any other girl in the Ryuukishiverse. You can't possibly think that two-faced bitch is better than Mion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23025935
I can, and I'll say more
Rena > Natsuhi > Mion

[Anonymous No.]

It's weird how George is OLDER than his own uncle. Even weirder than the fact that he's planning to marry him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23025935
This. Mion reaches Real!Minakami Yuki levels of perfection. And they are actually quite similar in many ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23025924
Real talk, Satoko will commit suicide when the guilt over killing her innocent parents overwhelms her. I'll give her 10 years max.

Satoshi is probably going to jail if he ever recovers his mental health. Kuma-chan still has a lot of proof against him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23025928
I can only assume it's because of the instant gratification Twitter offers via fast upvotes and retweets. Though it screws them over in the long run as their work becomes unfindable after about a week and poor archiving makes their old stuff essentially vanish. And that's not even getting into the crappy image compressing issues that lead to tons of unnecessary jpeg artifacts and lost details.

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>>23026128
Too bad most of them don't care about preserving their own art. As soon as a single person even slightly criticizes their art on Pixiv, they tend to implode and delete everything, acting like total assholes whenever everyone else begs them to reupload their shit

Why are Japanese artists like this? All it takes is one troll for them to hate every single user in the site and abandon everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23026140
I have no idea. Whether it be due to indifference towards preservation, a romanticization of fleetingness, or some other bullshit, it's annoying as hell. It kinda makes it seem like the artists are secretly ashamed of what they do, only managing to continue until faced with confrontation and then immediately giving up. You'd think the country responsible for the largest source of 2D animation in the world plus the subsequent fan works would give more of a damn about preserving it all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23022923
Can some shkanontrice fags replay to this?
If not i will put this on my manifesto

[Anonymous No.]

>>23010999
The only good thing about that manga is Zepfur and even then she's literally just Ryukishi's discount version of KissShot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23026128
I know one artist who has been getting really depressed lately and posting a lot about how much their art sucks, how everything they draw looks boring, and how they get more followers but not more likes and retweets. Saying he cant think of things to draw and that everyone who says they like his art is just trying to make him feel good. They have 132k followers and their art usually gets deveral thousand likes and a couple thousand retweets. It's a fucking drug and it does artists no favours.

Tumblr was unironically better for artists because there people could tag posts so everything was discoverable. More people would like posts because your likes wouldnt appear on everyone's dash, and more people would reblog nsfw art since you could tag it as nsfw, allowing people to filter it if they wanted when in public. You could queue posts so you get visibilty at all hours of the day instead of flooding everything in short bursts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23026793
Any art website would better. Twitter was never designed to be a platform for hosting a portfolio on. It's meant for talking about whatever happens to be on your mind at the moment, and that's what it's geared towards. Using it for art would be like going to Deviantart and making blog posts about your day at work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23026793
Artists are self-deprecating almost by nature. Making art causes one to develop an eye for art, and as the one making your works you're intimately familiar with every little imperfection it holds. That's why artists pretty much universally have a worse opinion of their works than outside viewers, with the main exception being those who haven't yet really developed an eye for detail.

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>>23026793
Could be he’s just depressed in general or because of other stuffs in life (shit job). With over 100k followers he probanly gets more comments than he can even read already.

I don’t feel twitter is THAT bad, if you properly name your tweets (and you can add a few tags) it’s not hard to find stuffs. The problem being the artists who doesn't even bother doing that, it’s really annoying and indeed makes their stuffs lost in limbo after some times. And combined with having no Pixiv/DA, it’s a really stupid thing to do.
Sounds more like it’s the fault of the artist than the site. Twitter is also nice to tweet work in progress and small stuffs you wouldn’t post on Pixiv or DA.

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>>23026989
Chloe's coming along great. I love what you've done with her clothes in particular this time. All those extra details added like stitching lines, rivets on the belt, chains on the corset, etc. You also did a great job showing the tension in the clothes, like on the belt holding the skirt up, or the one around her waist. And of course, the chest is as great as usual, with that same tightness as well as some tantalizing indentation by the cups, accentuating the plumpness of her boobs.

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>>23027031
The outfit was pretty obviously steampunk inspired, so felt like pushing more the details in that direction.
Also trying to give the gauntlet a more convincing high tech look, rather than just what looks like a weird photoshop montage of random assets.

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>>23027136
Well I definitely approve. Keep up the good work. I look forward to seeing whatever you do next.

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I've burned/deleted nigh everything I've ever drawn.

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>>23027386
For Ciconia I just planned to do Chloe for now, it’s already enough work. I guess at this point I could color her too later, and do some more expressions for the heck of it.

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>>23027453
And while I don’t plan to turn those into huge projects like the Higurashi sprite set, O was thinking I could try doing some more for the other series, like doing of version of Beato and Higanbana’s sprite. Was a bit interested into trying out adapting the art style of Higanbana with the heavy shadows.

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>>23027477
Higanbana's art style seems like it'd be fun to work with. And I'd definitely love to see a Beato. But regardless, I'm fine with pretty much anything you do.

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>discover the epigraph 5 minutes ago
>know that epigraph wasnt in all newspapers

Erika is too smart for this world

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>>23028044
I mean, it's natural for anybody to come to that conclusion. You'd think you'd hear about something like that in the news.

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>>23028717
really too much
erika was in holiday rigth?
did you really mean that erika know everything such that if she didnt hear about a thing than is a secret?
really too much

her goal was steal krauss heir position to humilate natsuhi this riddle had to be solved at all costs.

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>>23028880

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>>23028880
pls someone go her and scream ERIKA=KANON

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>>23028914
Fuck off with that already

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>>23028745
I mean, A normal person could deduce that they would have heard about an eccentric millionaire challenging people to find his life's fortune if it was in the papers.

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Post some fat Jouji.

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>>23028989
First krauss was creating an hotel so many people can think it was advertising.
I didnt think newspapers can give too much credit for this story without an homicide.
Well i admit that maybe someone of the parents could said that, but this was never saw an error of erika suit more in that games erika commit many error that must made us doubt of her.

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>>23028989
A normal person dedice that it's pointless to reply to italion anon.

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>>23029141
>A normal person
So an 1 bit goat
A real human argue,debate until only one truth will left alive.
I advice to you to read umineko VN, if you replay with this i think the manga cut all umineko philosofy

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>>23028044
You're mistaking the intent here. She's not saying for a fact that Kinzo didn't publish it in a newspaper, but rather pointing out that he's choosing to show it in a private place where only a few people can see it. She's making the point that he's likely only willing to show it to a few people. You would understand this nuance if your English was better.

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>>23029217
i read umineko in italian, i understand what you mean but newspaper is pretty specific.
in other words how can erika know that the only place where the epigraph had been exposed was the entrance?
kinzo could have published it anywhere and put the official version in the entrance.
then any servant could made a photo and send to newspapers.
really erika a stranger knew the loyalty of ushiromiya servants?
the sentence here is too vague, here erika speaks confidently because her goal is to convince relatives of:
solve the epigraph = become head of the family

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Since people mostly talk about Umineko (like always), I kinda wonder how did Ciconia do sales wise? Do we have some numbers or comments from Ryuukishi himself?

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>>23029327
20k owners on steam
https://steamdb.info/app/1162560/graphs/

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Erika was mentioning the newspaper because she wants to be friendly with Eva. Even as an outsider she shouldn't be involved with this but it may have led to the current situation.

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>>23029545
>Erika was mentioning the newspaper because she wants to be friendly with Eva.
why not kyrie who seem more smart?or any other person?
for what reason?
she is a stranger, she didnt have any motive.
according with her character her only motive is resolve epigraph.
she said that because people ask her opinion about epigraph, but in her opinion there is a thing that a stranger couldn't know the absence of newspapers article about the epigraph.
this is a forgetfulness of erika that nobody noticed since they all took it for granted and were fascinated by her speech

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>>23029266
>in other words how can erika know that the only place where the epigraph had been exposed was the entrance?
She can't. That's my point. Erika is making an assumption. She isn't speaking literally. She's concluding that since the outside world doesn't seem to know about the epigraph, but it exists on this island, that it therefore isn't meant to be known by the outside world.

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>>23029659
>Erika is making an assumption
in many mystery when the detective make an assumption detective use term as:from what i see i guess that or since I've never heard of it I think and others conditional.
if erika didn't know why she didn't ask for confirmation what was wrong?
they parents weren't culprits to fool
her sentece was very direct like she know that.
if she really make an assumption than her sentence was a bet that she made for no realistic reason.

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jessica can beat up ange in a fight

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>>23027477
I hope you don't give the 11 year old from Higanbana massive tits or hips. It would ruin the whole point.

They are not meant to be completely shapeless like a small kid, but also not curvy like a teenager. They are preteen kids.

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Hanyuu is a ghost without physiological needs yet she wears her ass with pride. Humiliation anon can't defile her.

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>>23029808
He could just do like he did with Satoko and Rika and it’ll be fines

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Guys tell my why only erika spoke with kanon?
He is hated by everyone?

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>>23029343
is that a good number?

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>>23028044
What the fuck. Please train your reading comprehension, anon. If you want this to be another proof for your theory then go ahead and do it, but please understand this isn't anything decisive by itself.

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>>23030736
Erika made many mistakes for a detective,she knew thing that a stranger couldn't know.
This sentece is just one of many errors
Take singulary didnt make nothing but united to all others become a cleary proof

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>>23030514
god the manga is so disgusting

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Jestress is legit the most attractive WTC character ever. The moment she appeared I got a massive boner.

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Zoomers no Naku Koro Ni

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>>23029899
I wanna wear Hanyuu's ass on my face.

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>>23030514
The manga is garbo though.

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I finally got to reading the Steam releases of Higurashi since I'd had enough of being called secondary filth. Not sure if I wanna wait for Matsuribayashi or nab the Alchemist version, but

Meakashi > Minagoroshi > Tatarigoroshi = Himatsubushi > Watanagashi > Onikakushi > Shit >>> Tsumihoroboshi

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>>23032248
>Shit >>> Tsumihoroboshi
How the hell do you even manage to have such shit taste.

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>>23032295
The first six chapters and the final fight were quite good, but everything inbetween was the absolute worst I've ever seen out of Ryukishi

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>>23029656
>why not kyrie who seem more smart?or any other person?
As a "detective" she got to know through the introduction and dinner the family ranking, family relations and that Eva is a snarky leader type. We know of Eva's view that she searched through every option to become the successor (but it seems she only begrudge Krauss the position).
Kyrie is a beta type most of the time (prime showed she is an alpha).
The 1986 conference was the only possible one the siblings are trying to solve the puzzle together, it's also the one where the family of Rudolph, Eva and Rosa trying to expose Kinzo's death. Isn't it convenient? After Battler and Erika found the gold the parents still wanted their question answered by Kinzo. And Eva had put the receipt seal on Kinzo's study.

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>>23032374
Well ok the dinner position can make a mystery novel lover think bad about family relationship.
Eva seem the clichè character who wanted the heir position.
As a detective i would suspect her instead of natsuhi.
>Kinzo's death.
The exsposure of kinzo death is a strange fact erika wanted exposure kinzo death like we saw in kinzo study but then erika use kinzo in her theory.
Why do that?
Really didnt belive anymore in kinzo death?
Nope just she notice that a sexual relationshio between natsuhi and kinzo is more humiliating and this is the only way to explain the bodies disappearance.
Dlanor called the other method that erika think disguting so possible but no one of the parents could belive in that.

If erika wasnt the culprit there would be no reason to think that kinzo is alive.

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>>23032426
>As a detective i would suspect her instead of natsuhi.
That's why Erikatrice exists. Eva know of Erika's plan sealing the complete guest house. Or the other way around.
Kinzo was used in her theory because Battler somehow saw Kinzo in the garden - Erika AND Battler withhold this information in front of the adults. Beatrice could have claimed Kinzo dissapeared before 23:00 because Battler saw him. You see, this episode's perk is withholding earlier informations.
The real problem starts when Erika didn't asked for the alibis for the first night murders before the study room mystery and Eva knew of Erika's plan which was not shown before the court session.

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>>23032644
well is right
erika during the discover of the 6 bodies didnt really do anything , she start the investigation in kinzo study.

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>>23032248
What the fuck, your taste is almost totally backwards, did you like EP6 too?

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>>23032248
I genuinely don't understand how anyone can not have Himatsubushi as the worst. It feels like filler.

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Dlanor F Knox

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>>23034833
nice Knoxers

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>>23034825
I almost didn't include it because it feels like a side story, but I didn't have any particular complaints since it was succinct and provided some organic exposition about the dam protests. That automatically puts it above some of the shittier chapters
>>23034412
I don't know what you mean by episode 6 here, but Tsumihoroboshi was easily my least favorite as previously indicated

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>>23035091
The thing about Himatsubushi is that it's boring. Even controversial chapters are at least interesting.

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>>23035596
Almost as if it was... a Time Wasting Chapter.

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>>23034981
What does she use them for?

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>>23029711
A double paizuri fight

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>>23037393
No way. Ange would kick Jessica's ass at paizuri.