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Zounose Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:46:15 2018 No.19533713 [Reply] [Original]

Why does he make 2hus grimdark, like Yukari here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:47:50 2018 No.19533721 This thread again, deja vu.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:49:59 2018 No.19533728
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>>19533713
>Why does he make 2hus grimdark, like Yukari here.
He doesn't make 2hu Grimdark. That's always been happening since the beginning.

The Youkais greatest fear is that a Human Leaders would rise up and overthrow them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:00:57 2018 No.19533776 Is this a dedicated grimsokyofag containment thread?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:05:20 2018 No.19533793 >>19533713 Edginess is a substitute for cleverness.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:04:12 2018 No.19533981 File: 191 KB, 548x572, kosuzu_quizzical.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19533793 What are you implying here? Please cite specific examples I can refute.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:07:09 2018 No.19533988 File: 462 KB, 870x1250, From my point of View The Shrine Maiden are Evil.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19533981

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:09:04 2018 No.19533994 File: 309 KB, 929x1300, 002.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who is better au writing 2hu, Roki or Zounose?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:15:29 2018 No.19534019 File: 181 KB, 927x315, sanae.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19533994 roki

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:16:43 2018 No.19534022 File: 172 KB, 542x950, flan_loves_food_with_garlic.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19533994 If this "roki" guy wrote that page, then he obviously can't compare to the genius that is Zounose.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 08:49:54 2018 No.19534333 File: 263 KB, 850x1228, __yakumo_yukari_touhou_drawn_by_roki_hirokix__sample-ce54f9a3383d00d9130836b388b52a27.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19534022 Roki is a hentai artist

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 10:50:59 2018 No.19534823 >>19533713 Because he likes, the same way some people draw Yukari with a dick as tall as her, that's it. What's the point of the thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:17:50 2018 No.19535011 >>19533776 No. Either way, i'm not going to hang around here and talk about Zounose AGAIN. I don't even like his work that much. If you're going to go full grimdark, then you need to have a point to it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:23:34 2018 No.19535050 >>19535011 It such a shame that his art is so comfy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:04:44 2018 No.19535342 >>19535050 His art is great, and he can be surprisingly funny. But most of his work just leaves me cold. And i typically don't get anything out of it expect that i want almost every major character to die.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:26:12 2018 No.19535481 >>19535050 He has non-stupid doujins too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 19:38:09 2018 No.19538367 >>19535481 Like?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 19:39:36 2018 No.19538376 Zounose is fun and people who don't like his work are faggots.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 20:26:28 2018 No.19538624 >>19538367 That one with Tenshi and Seija. My guess it's because Tenshi is literally poisonous to youkai and can't be eaten.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:51:41 2018 No.19540788 >>19538376 t. 40kfag

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:00:30 2018 No.19540827
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>>19535011
>If you're going to go full grimdark, then you need to have a point to it.
are you saying there is no point?
This thread sounds to me like /jp/ has a nonsense aversion towards anything that isn't happy fun time slice of life doujins.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:01:25 2018 No.19540829 >>19540827 Yes, there is no point. Grimdark for the sake of grimdark is trash.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:04:14 2018 No.19540835 >>19540829 Zounose's doujins aren't grimdark for the sake of grimdark. There is a point to making the setting dark. I guess his darkest doujin would be Kaminare, the rest aren't even grim enough.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:16:36 2018 No.19540866 File: 3.31 MB, 1433x2024, nemuno.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He made Nemuno heartwarming.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:28:42 2018 No.19540901 [DELETED]

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>>19540866
it one of my favortie story by zounose. glad to see other enjoy it too.
here link to it if you want to read it.
https://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/13060

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:05:08 2018 No.19541183

>>19540827
>are you saying there is no point?
Yes.

>This thread sounds to me like /jp/ has a nonsense aversion towards anything that isn't happy fun time slice of life doujins.
They absolutely do. But personally, i actually tend to prefer darker stories. I just don't like the way Zounose does it.

>>19540835
Then, pray, tell me what the point is. Because the only thing i get out of his work is that Gensokyo is terrible. And that almost everybody in it deserves to die for being a horrible person.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:25:04 2018 No.19541381
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>>19541183
>Then, pray, tell me what the point is.
The point is to make the stakes higher. Now that the characters are seriously in danger (in some of the doujins) or if their actions could have terrible consequences, it leads to a more gripping story.
>Because the only thing i get out of his work is that Gensokyo is terrible. And that almost everybody in it deserves to die for being a horrible person.
Be honest. How many zounose doujins have you read? Which particular ones made you think this way?

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:38:15 2018 No.19541524

>>19541381
>The point is to make the stakes higher.
Not really. Zounose follows canon too close for that to be the case. The spellcard rules are still a thing, and most of the characters are too powerful to ever be in genuine danger.

>Be honest. How many zounose doujins have you read?
Most of them.

>Which particular ones made you think this way?
Kaminare is the biggest, obviously. But others are Canni-Chan. Hungry Tiger. Amanozako. Not used to the wind. Magic of Isolation. Last Supper. Hunting Dog's Fangs. When you wish upon a star. Shirogane Edge. And probably one or two more that I just can't remember.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:14:49 2018 No.19545088 >>19541524 >Not used to the wind That was actually pretty good

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:18:19 2018 No.19545116 >>19540788 40k is also, at its heart, a fun setting.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:47:31 2018 No.19545336
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>>19541524
>The spellcard rules are still a thing
>most of the characters are too powerful to ever be in genuine danger.
Marisa went around murdering people in Magic of Isolation. She didn't obey spellcard rules then.
Sanae and Keine almost died to falling rocks in Rainfall. Sanae had been causing miracles all day and didn't have the power to stop what was coming.
Kosuzu, a human girl with absolutely no combat abilities, was stuck in a room with Seija, a dangerous unpredictable youkai. I really think she would have been killed if Shinmyoumaru wasn't there to keep her in check, as it was the fastest way to get what she wanted.
In the latest release, Moriya-sama, an avatar created by the Moriya Temple girls' fear of being forgotten is causing everyone in Gensokyo to be forgotten, threatening to destroy the existence of the beings there that need fear and recognition to exist. The climax for this doujin is one of my favorites.

Apart from the first one, these scenarios would happen even if everyone obeyed spellcard rules. The dangers introduced in Zounose's works make sense: meddlesome gods, exceptionally bad weather, youkai breaking the rules, the threat of being forgotten. These have all happened in touhou already.

When the girls [save the day] / [get through whatever it is they have to do in] Zounose's doujins, they've done it under immense pressure. The climax is more intense, and the conclusion is more rewarding. Is that not enough of a point to make the settings "grimdark"?

>the only thing i get out of his work is that Gensokyo is terrible. And that almost everybody in it deserves to die for being a horrible person.
>Which particular ones made you think this way?
>Hunting Dog's Fangs
>When you wish upon a star
>Shirogane Edge
what
Momiji was just hunting animals and defending herself.
Marisa was just a kid when she did that curse, and she's regretted it ever since.
Youmu harmed no one but herself.

For all the others I didn't single out, they either didn't have a choice in doing what they had to do, or it is in their nature to do it, and you don't normally consider a lion evil every time it eats a zebra.

I tried, but I really can't see the reason why you think you do. Unless you go into a specific doujin, I'm going to continue thinking this way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:10:50 2018 No.19545514 I don't like dark edge shit but I kinda like Zounose works. I think is because his art.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 22:28:50 2018 No.19546025 I don't remember if it was Zounose but the doujin where Kanako strongly urge Sanae to consume human meat was pretty off putting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 23:55:06 2018 No.19546674 >>19533994 One of Zounose's ideals is that people don't look at touhou character's as sex objects, so Zounose.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 04:38:47 2018 No.19547908 >>19546025 The shota meat? I think was Zounose, yes.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 05:04:55 2018 No.19547975

>>19545336
>When the girls [save the day] / [get through whatever it is they have to do in] Zounose's doujins, they've done it under immense pressure. The climax is more intense, and the conclusion is more rewarding. Is that not enough of a point to make the settings "grimdark"?
Like i said, I often find it hard to feel any kind of tension even when people do break the spellcard rules simply because of how strong everybody is. And even when that's not the case. Then, because of how Grimdark the setting is, I can't feel any tension because I want all of the characters to die anyway.

>Momiji was just hunting animals and defending herself.
The way Tengu society was portrayed still made almost everybody pretty much irredeemable. And most of the people expect Momiji were still massive unlikable twats.

>Marisa was just a kid when she did that curse, and she's regretted it ever since.
Like the above, the people around her are still unlikable twats. And Marisa's behaviour in other Doujins puts her pretty much into the "Deserves to die" category as well.

>Youmu harmed no one but herself.
I agree that Youmu came off looking pretty decent. But everybody else, same as above.

>For all the others I didn't single out, they either didn't have a choice in doing what they had to do, or it is in their nature to do it, and you don't normally consider a lion evil every time it eats a zebra.
My problem isn't so much the fact that all Youkai have to eat people. It's the way they take care of it, and the reaction everybody else has to it. When I read Kamimare, the only reaction I had was "Wow, the Moriya shrine gods, The Tengu, and most of the Human Villagers all deserve to die horribly". When I read Hungry Tiger my only reaction was "Wow, Byakuren and her temple deserve to be burned alive". When i read Canni Chan and Last Supper my only reaction was "Wow, Yukari deserves to burn in hell and Gensokyo deserves to be turned into a bombed out crater".

Almost everybody is either a sociopathic murderer, complicit in murder, a hypocritical liar, utterly apathetic about suffering, or just plain old unlikable. And it's ultimately pretty clear that Zounose's version of Gensokyo is nothing but a blight on the world, and the only happy ending would be its complete destruction.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 05:31:34 2018 No.19548028 >>19533776 I don't know why you retards feel the need to keep making threads for this imbicile

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 05:35:26 2018 No.19548040 >>19548001 nemuno save me, if I have to keep living off oatmeal, rice and instant ramen I'm gonna an hero.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:01:58 2018 No.19550379 >>19548001 I wanna be Hatate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:08:42 2018 No.19550412 >>19548001 >double peace signs tags: mind_break, broken_rape_victim

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:21:08 2018 No.19550468 >>19546674 >sex objects

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 14:54:23 2018 No.19550642 >>19550412 Post the link

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 18:47:19 2018 No.19552018 >>19538376 Zounose is faggot and people who don't like his work are fun.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 23:45:13 2018 No.19553629
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>>19550412
>broken_rape_victim
If only that were a tag anywhere. There needs to be at least 10 pages after the rape in every doujin, showing the girl crying herself to sleep and (if in school) her classmates gossiping about her rape.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 02:45:42 2018 No.19554481 >>19553629 Anon pls

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 02:53:38 2018 No.19554514 >>19533721 It is true that I killed the OP. Yet I am not his murderer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 03:54:35 2018 No.19554746 >>19553629 That happens in any sort of blackmail rape or other serial rape type manga.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 06:08:42 2018 No.19555215 >>19550642 https://exhentai.org/g/1135932/e9dad8eedb/

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 08:33:18 2018 No.19555853
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>>19540788
>implying 40kids can't into sunshine and rainbows
>implying 40kids can't into fun and happy
>implying 40kids are faggots like grimsoykofag
...and that's where you're wrong, bruva.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 08:41:46 2018 No.19555892

>>19553629
The only thing erotic about that would be the crying, and the feelings she would have while doing so, everything else is kind fucked up, realistic, but fucked up. It'd be sad as hell, and it'd kind of mess up the post-wank feeling if the aftermath made you cry along with her, and feel bad and depressed along with her. It'd be ebst just to stop at the crying herself to sleep part.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 10:32:53 2018 No.19556480

>>19555892
It's just that, Geiger counter became one of my favorite rape doujins because of that page where the girl shuddered and went into a panic attack when the doorbell rang. I wish a lot more doujins played with the trauma aspect of rape. It's not just a one night kind of thing and they need to show that.
>>19555853
That might be the cutest techpriest I've ever seen.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 10:46:31 2018 No.19556569 Never read his works, should i?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 10:53:02 2018 No.19556606 File: 390 KB, 1280x1794, nemuno likes little boys.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19548001

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 11:30:24 2018 No.19556877 >>19556606 I know this is supposed to be heartwarming. But i can't help but wonder: Who is that kid? Is he a Villager? And if so, shouldn't he be returned to the Human Village? If he's a outsider, then shouldn't he be brought to Reimu?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 11:44:24 2018 No.19556952 File: 344 KB, 1280x1808, Battered Wife Syndrome.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am I in the wrong for liking 2hu doujins where they get physically abused by their partners?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 11:47:25 2018 No.19556971 >>19548001 Hatate is living the high life. Those dirty tengu dong understand how to live life properly

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 12:14:02 2018 No.19557126 >>19556877 Nemuno takes in lost kids and "raises" them until they're functioning adults

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 12:28:56 2018 No.19557218 >>19556569 >Never read his works What a pleb! His Suwako is top tier.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 12:38:08 2018 No.19557260 File: 133 KB, 366x339, 631061061060.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19557218 also the reaction faces

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 12:53:39 2018 No.19557366 >>19556480 I have a folder for that kind of stuff. A shame that not many go into the despair of post-rape life.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 14:45:31 2018 No.19558084 >>19557126 I know. But that's not really a good thing. Both for the parents and the child. Especially if the child is a outsider.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 00:28:14 2018 No.19561690 >>19555853 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 00:36:49 2018 No.19561721 File: 284 KB, 516x729, 1522841380344.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19558084 Kintaro was raised by one hag just like Nemuno, the kid will do better than being an office drone or a smelly farmer on the village.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 14:48:16 2018 No.19566154 >>19561721 The only thing he's going to accomplish is getting the shit kicked out of him by Reimu and Marisa. And appearing once or twice as a playable character. He would have been far happier in the outside world.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 20:02:18 2018 No.19568304 >>19556952 S-sauce?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 20:39:02 2018 No.19568556 File: 133 KB, 375x461, sakuya_but_its_still_good.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19557260 MOMIZI ROLL was a goldmine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 01:39:44 2018 No.19570245 File: 376 KB, 1200x1695, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19568304 not that anon, but after looking around, it called "(C78) [Uso Seisakujo (Harukaze Unipo)] CHU-PET (Touhou Project) [English]"

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 01:49:42 2018 No.19570272 >>19570245 Thanks, bro.

Anonymous Fri Aug 3 02:03:29 2018 No.19570327
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He is a wonderful artist, and not all his doujins are bad, but the Sanae coming of age one was just cringey. It was framed like a bittersweet coming of age story, but in reality it made her look like a weak coward.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 02:10:13 2018 No.19570349 The only reason why people tolerate his writing is because he's a superb artist. If he would presented his works in mediocre art people would dismiss him in instant.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 02:13:22 2018 No.19570358 >>19570349 This is why Roki is better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 02:18:20 2018 No.19570374 File: 2.38 MB, 2000x1300, 1522541309931.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19570358 I prefer Rindou.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 04:08:38 2018 No.19570629 File: 372 KB, 385x1824, 20180802_215617.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19570349 What makes Zounose a bad writer?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 04:59:35 2018 No.19570781 >>19570327 It made EVERYBODY look like either a despicable coward, or an evil sociopath. Including the human villagers, and it's pretty hard to make them unlikable or unsympathetic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 05:01:55 2018 No.19570787 >>19570629 Grimdark for the sake of grimdark. And causing darkness induced audience apathy. At least, that's why i think his writing is pretty weak.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 05:08:04 2018 No.19570805 >>19570781 Or maybe. Humanity Fuck yeah is a Mental Illness and The Youkai just know more simply due to the fact they are a master race.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 06:49:03 2018 No.19571188 >>19570805 Or mabye Youkai apologisme is the real mental disease, and Youkai are nothing but parasitical sapient memes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 06:53:06 2018 No.19571193 >>19571188 Seeing as how you were fucked in the head as a child and probably still are, no, the one with the mental disease is in all likelihood you rather than every other individual who has ever posted in /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 07:20:17 2018 No.19571298 >>19548001 Zounose's comedy is top tier when he isn't going full edge.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 07:22:46 2018 No.19571317 >>19571193 No. Im pretty sure i'm one of the few sane normal individuals on this board. The fact that you think that "Sacrificing a innocent child is bad=Humanity fuck yeah" is proof enough of that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 07:26:19 2018 No.19571332 >>19571317 You're a mental basket case who literally would have killed yourself without having your hand held though your entire youth, lecturing everyone else on proper mental hygeine when you in fact only traded one mental illness for another.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 07:29:03 2018 No.19571344 >>19571332 I was a troubled and stupid child. But i did not trade one mental illness for another. I traded it for nothing.

Anonymous Fri Aug 3 07:34:37 2018 No.19571367

>>19571344
You changed from a troubled and stupid child to a narcissistic and stupid adult, probably by practicing a technique that convinces yourself that you're literally always right.

Children who are retarded relative to their peers grow up into retarded adults, not savants.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 07:44:22 2018 No.19571402 >>19571367 I grew up into a flawed but decent adult. Meanwhile, most of the people here never grew up. Something that is made very obvious by the way you act towards me and others.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 07:52:45 2018 No.19571443 >>19571402 Truly the failure of people here to grovel before narcissistic, self-important, mentally ill cuntrags is a sign of great moral failing. The trash isn't going to take out itself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 07:59:04 2018 No.19571469 >>19571443 Look at how angry you are. Those are not the words of a grown up, but a immature child.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 08:05:17 2018 No.19571511 >>19571469 >u mad It's an accurate assessment. There's no need to temper it for the appeasement of the trash it describes. Obsession with the notion of maturity is the sign of an insecure faggot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 08:22:28 2018 No.19571590 >>19571511 There is no obsession to speak off. I simply find it rather hard to take people like you seriously when you act like a toddler throwing a temper tantrum.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 08:51:03 2018 No.19571703 >>19541183 Gensokyo IS horrible. The traditional folklore was never nice. The grim reality is just hidden behind a nice touch of cute and a realite peaceful stalemate between humans and youkais.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 09:00:49 2018 No.19571743 >>19571703 I agree. But at least in canon Gensokyo, some of the characters are decent enough people. In Zounose's Gensokyo, almost everybody, including the freaking human villagers, are horrible.

Anonymous Fri Aug 3 09:24:30 2018 No.19571848

>>19571743
You know that you can be horrible for some times and special events but not be a dick the rest of the time.
Plus, it's canon that Gensokyo exists for the youkais, not the humans.
They still live on fear, that fear and mutual hatred still exist. And Yukari is weary of villagers becoming too friendly with youkais.
This is also the reason why humans turning youkais (except for Magicians who are still partially human) is forbidden. If they all went through this transformation, they would all die.
As such, in more sense than one, most of Zounose doujin are "lore-friendly", and make more sense.

Anonymous Fri Aug 3 09:34:01 2018 No.19571891

>>19571848
>You know that you can be horrible for some times and special events but not be a dick the rest of the time.
It doesn't matter how they act. Their actions are the reason why I find it impossible to like or root for anybody in Zounose Doujins. They are all utterly irredeemable, and i simply don't care what happens to them expect that I want them to die. Unless that is the intended audience reaction, that's a bit of a problem.

>As such, in more sense than one, most of Zounose doujin are "lore-friendly", and make more sense.
I agree, and I do like that he sticks to the lore. But he does so in a way that creates problems of its own. And often includes "grimdark" elements that have no basis in canon. All of which would be fine if there was SOME kind of important philosophical or thematic point to it. But there really kind of isn't.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 09:42:37 2018 No.19571928 >>19571848 >weary You mean wary?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 09:47:36 2018 No.19571950 >They are at it again

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 09:55:30 2018 No.19571997 File: 582 KB, 1280x1803, 1533304530407.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what are some of your favorite story by zounose? For me it Canni-Can.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 10:44:19 2018 No.19572325 File: 717 KB, 750x621, sanae a good girl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19571997 MOMIZI ROLL Ikaregami RAIN FALL DODO and Heartwarming Moriya Family Manga

Anonymous Fri Aug 3 12:30:54 2018 No.19573210
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>>19571891
>if there was SOME kind of important philosophical or thematic point to [the darker setting]. But there really kind of isn't.
There is a point, Zounose seems to be one of those few artists that try to get you to think about something else after reading his stories. If you can't see that then there's no helping you.
I notice that a of his older doujins revolve around sacrificing something for something else.
Can you harm your friends to gamble at a chance to save theme from something much more terrible down the road?
Are you willing to throw away your humanity to become what you were destined to be?
Is survival worthy if it is just to lead a pathetic, disgraceful existence?
If you knew what doujins I'm talking about I don't know why you would even hold that thought, since you would have realized that there is a point. With a darker setting, there's more weight to the consequences that are presented by these dilemmas.
>>19571997
Moriya-sama
Kodoku no Mahou
RAIN FALL
When you wish upon a STAR
Amanozako (more doujins need to touch on the protective relationship between Reimu and Kosuzu)
>>19572325
>Heartwarming Moriya Family Manga
Is that from his compilations? Never seen it before. I'll scan my copy of Mugamubiru 4 if you scan Mugamubiru 2 or 3.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 12:48:33 2018 No.19573383 >>19571590 Nobody wants to be taken seriously by you because you're a complete nutjob except other autistic xontrarian faggots. Pointing out what you are is just calling a spare a spade.

Anonymous Fri Aug 3 14:16:40 2018 No.19574001

>>19573210
Dilemmas are a means of making a point, not a point by themselves. Although, It's not like I would call what happens in most of Zounose's stories a dilemma. In Kaminmare, the dilemma is basically "Do something completely and utterly morally reprehensible for extremely selfish reasons" or "not doing that with basically no consequences". And that's still better than most of his other stories , where the character just does the really bad thing without even paying lip service to doing anything else.

If the point was to think about the situation presented. Then maybe he should have actually presented it as a dilemma, and put some effort into actually making it a good dilemma.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 14:20:56 2018 No.19574018 >>19573383 I would say the true nutjob that nobody wants to be taken seriously by is you. And that by acting like a spoiled child, the only thing you accomplish is amusing me.

Anonymous Fri Aug 3 14:33:42 2018 No.19574098

>>19574018
>I would say the true nutjob that nobody wants to be taken seriously by is you.
You say a lot of things, most of which you've made up for the purpose of pushing your fanfiction. Most people only don't talk to you in the hopes that you'll take your autism elsewhere.

You live in some sort of fantasy world in which everything you see serves to validate that which you already believed, probably as a result of the fact that you're a mental ill faggot who should have killed himself as a child.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 15:13:33 2018 No.19574304 >>19573210 is that a urine stain

Anonymous Fri Aug 3 15:47:03 2018 No.19574463

>>19574098
>You say a lot of things, most of which you've made up for the purpose of pushing your fanfiction.
1: I don't write fanfiction about Touhou. 2: The only reason why i make the arguments i do is because i believe in them. And 3: I don't make anything up. Everything i say is based on my own interpretation of actual canon texts. You can disagree with that interpretation, but I did still base it on actual canon.

>Most people only don't talk to you in the hopes that you'll take your autism elsewhere.
People talk to me constantly actually. Including you.

>You live in some sort of fantasy world in which everything you see serves to validate that which you already believed
No, I live in this world. The only people that live in a insane fantasy world are people like you. That turned me, somebody that just talked about Touhou, into some kind of bogeyman that haunts the threads looking for victims to devour.

>probably as a result of the fact that you're a mental ill faggot who should have killed himself as a child.
The only one mentally ill here is you. That has become very obvious the longer I talk you. And hey, at least i'm willing to admit i have problems. That's something somebody like you never could.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 15:50:02 2018 No.19574480 >>19574463 *The only one mentally ill here is you, that has become very obvious the longer I talk with you.

Anonymous Fri Aug 3 16:07:14 2018 No.19574558

>>19570629
Shock value at the cost of consistency.

For instance, at the end of the Sekibanki doujin, we find out that Sekibanki can apparently take any dead body she finds as a "twist" to the story meant to shock us. However, throughout the story it is the body that is established as Sekibanki's core, while the heads are the disposable, easily duplicated part. The twist at the end creates an inconsistency with the rest of the story for the sake of a cheap gore shot and startling "revelation."

Anonymous Fri Aug 3 16:08:07 2018 No.19574564

>>19574463
>because i believe in them.
The fact that you believe in your own fanfiction is your own problem. You're entitled to do it, of course. You're even entitled to shit on every one who doesn't believe in it, in which case other people are entitled to point out that you're a complete fucktard.

>That turned me, somebody that just talked about Touhou, into some kind of bogeyman that haunts the threads looking for victims to devour.
You're not a boogeyman if you exist.

>And hey, at least i'm willing to admit i have problems.
Such as being a mentally ill, narcissistic faggot incapable of self-reflection of any sort that doesn't directly feed into more narcissistic faggotry.

Anonymous Fri Aug 3 16:21:09 2018 No.19574639

>>19574564
I do not believe my own fanfiction. Because again, I don't make fanfiction. I adhere to canon, unlike most people here. I simply view it in a different light than others, for reasons that are also based on canon.

>Such as being a mentally ill, narcissistic faggot incapable of self-reflection of any sort that doesn't directly feed into more narcissistic faggotry.
That's not actually a problem I have. Believing that I'm right when it comes to Touhou canon is not the same thing as narcissism.

Anonymous Fri Aug 3 16:37:21 2018 No.19574745

>>19574639
>I simply view it in a different light than others, for reasons that are also based on canon.
You view it in a different light than others (ie, make shit up) based on personal complexes and original research having nothing to do with canon.

>Believing that I'm right when it comes to Touhou canon is not the same thing as narcissism.
Lots of people believe they're right. Only you claim everyone who disagrees is ignorant or sociopathic. That, and your constant need to play the victim while aggressively shitting on people and work alike, is indicative of delusional narcissism.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 16:38:23 2018 No.19574749 >>19533713 why do these threads exist? do you not get tired of retarded greentexting arguments moralfaggot?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 17:21:39 2018 No.19574970 File: 1.61 MB, 960x1000, 62723792_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19571997 It has beat up Kanako and Suwako.

Anonymous Fri Aug 3 17:23:17 2018 No.19574977

>>19574745
>You view it in a different light than others (ie, make shit up) based on personal complexes and original research having nothing to do with canon.
If asked, I will ALWAYS give a source for my claim. The only one making shit up is you.

>Lots of people believe they're right. Only you claim everyone who disagrees is ignorant or sociopathic.
I do not think everybody that disagrees with me is ignorant of sociopathic. I think the people that use ignorant or sociopathic arguments are that way.

>That, and your constant need to play the victim while aggressively shitting on people and work alike, is indicative of delusional narcissism.
I do not "play the victim", I'm just amused that you people have such a massive hate boner for me. Because it is hilarious, you see.

In any case. I don't think this conversation is going anywhere, and i liked this thread better before it started. So, unless you actually have something meaningful to say, i say we just end it here. I'll even give you the last word!

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 17:39:37 2018 No.19575060 File: 50 KB, 479x543, 1543634552345.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19574977 when you anhero shout jp memes shiki memes would be great

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 17:51:05 2018 No.19575128 >>19574749 no, he doesn't, and he either samefags to start his retarded grimderp threads or there are still idiots on here who think its a good idea to engage with a crossboarding shitposter.

Anonymous Fri Aug 3 17:54:38 2018 No.19575147

>>19574977
>If asked, I will ALWAYS give a source for my claim.
Your source is usually a conclusion you've drawn based on elaborate personal reasoning (ie, shit you've made up) than any sort of actual source.

>I do not "play the victim."
You do it in just about every thread you're in. You're doing it literally right now. It must be difficult to go through life this oblivious.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 18:22:21 2018 No.19575292 >>19574970 I like Junko and Suwako

Anonymous Fri Aug 3 19:15:54 2018 No.19575502

>>19574977
But you do make shit up, like when you refused to accept that villagers are happy on the village despite being shown numerous times through the print works leading satisfying lives and having several sources of entertaintment and positive interaction with youkai just because there was never any sort of indication that they lived a content life on the village? Or like when you mentioned that the PCB prologue is bad or a retcon because the village was better back then despite making it quite clear several times on future printworks that it wasn't ever meant to be a current representation of Gensokyo and it was dismissed by ZUN on an Email just after PCB.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 3 20:36:08 2018 No.19575959 >>19574558 It wasn't established that her body is the core. You were just led to believe it, hence the twist.

Anonymous Sat Aug 4 05:16:24 2018 No.19578722

>>19575502
>like when you refused to accept that villagers are happy on the village despite being shown numerous times through the print works leading satisfying lives and having several sources of entertaintment and positive interaction with youkai just because there was never any sort of indication that they lived a content life on the village?
I still don't see any evidence that the villagers are happy and satisfied in the print works. They clearly manage, even have some fun occasionally. But that's what tends to happen if you're stuck in a bad situation that is nonetheless still livable, you try and simply live out your life to the best of your ability. That most villagers can do that is something i never debated, people have dealt with far worse situations historically.

With that said, my opinions on the matter has softened somewhat. I went from "The Villagers are miserable but manage" to "It's ambiguous how unhappy/happy they are". Although, at the same time i've also come to think it doesn't really matter anyway. Simply because they are still being kept in Gensokyo against their will, and they could be happier in the outside world. Simply because there is absolutely nothing they have in Gensokyo that they could not have in the outside world. And a lot of things they have in the outside world that they could not get in Gensokyo.

>Or like when you mentioned that the PCB prologue is bad or a retcon because the village was better back then despite making it quite clear several times on future printworks that it wasn't ever meant to be a current representation of Gensokyo and it was dismissed by ZUN on an Email just after PCB.
Look, ZUN can claim whatever he wants, but it was still a obvious retcon. The prologue was supposed to be written either in the future or just after the events of PCB, that's obvious if you actually read the thing. And yet it contained lore that, in the context of later print works, makes no freaking sense even if we assume the person writing it is trying to lie about something. Also, do you have a source for that Email?

Anonymous Sat Aug 4 08:48:38 2018 No.19579683

>>19578722
>I still don't see any evidence that the villagers are happy and satisfied in the print works. They clearly manage, even have some fun occasionally. But that's what tends to happen if you're stuck in a bad situation that is nonetheless still livable, you try and simply live out your life to the best of your ability. That most villagers can do that is something i never debated, people have dealt with far worse situations historically.
>Simply because they are still being kept in Gensokyo against their will, and they could be happier in the outside world. Simply because there is absolutely nothing they have in Gensokyo that they could not have in the outside world. And a lot of things they have in the outside world that they could not get in Gensokyo.
>Your source is usually a conclusion you've drawn based on elaborate personal reasoning (ie, shit you've made up) than any sort of actual source.
People from the outside world decide to stay in the village. You can dismiss it saying they're insane or whatever.

As for the prologue, you say it's a retcon because you want to believe it's a retcon, you said it's written in the future because "read the thing". The only things that contradict newer lore is that youkai can get out of the border to hunt and that all humans are powerful enough to fight youkai which both make sense. The most logical conclusion for all of this is that it was written in the past by a previous shrine maiden and that was the intent the whole time, it's not the first time I tell you this, I've told you the same thing over and over yet you keep dismissing it because you're either shitposting or are too immersed in your own headcanon.
>Also, do you have a source for that Email?
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/ZUN/ZUN%27s_E-mails
You should had known about this already, no wonder you're so full of shit all the time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 4 10:00:45 2018 No.19580026 File: 100 KB, 510x724, gen7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://gumroad.com/gensisha Wh-what the HELL is this...

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 4 17:33:45 2018 No.19582759 >>19580026 hmm, a paid doujin?

Anonymous Sat Aug 4 19:45:08 2018 No.19583538

>>19579683
>People from the outside world decide to stay in the village. You can dismiss it saying they're insane or whatever.
They have their reasons, i'm sure. But since we don't know what those reasons are, they could just be criminals fleeing from the law for all we know. According to SoPM, they also don't seem to do very well on average.

>The most logical conclusion for all of this is that it was written in the past by a previous shrine maiden and that was the intent the whole time

>The following story is a record of the peaceful and fantastic everyday events that take place only in Gensokyo.
This is followed by the plot of PCB, meaning the previous bit could have only been written in either the present or the future. There is nothing logical about assuming it was written by a previous Hakurei Shrine Maiden. And then there are these two lines:
>Though innumerable years have passed since its sealing, Gensokyo is still home to many youkai and just a few humans.
>With the passing of time, those who still knew of Gensokyo died out...
Which make it clear that a decent amount of time has passed between Gensokyo getting sealed and the PCB prologue being written in-universe.

>You should had known about this already, no wonder you're so full of shit all the time.
The only one full of shit is you. In any case, ZUN points out some pretty decent reasons why the Genoskyo record could be viewed as unreliable in that email. Now, you could argue that ZUN made it unreliable from the start so that he would have a easier time dismissing its content later if he decided to expand the setting, which he did with PMISS and Bohemian. But even if that is true, then it's still a retcon by every definition of the word. He retroactively reframed old lore to fit the current storyline.

Also, according to that email, it DOES contain stories about Reimu and Co. Which means its IMPOSSIBLE that a previous Hakurei Shrine Maiden could have written it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 4 19:51:07 2018 No.19583572 >>19583538 >I've kind of gotten away from the topic of the question, but for the above reasons, as you might expect, there is a high possibility that Reimu is not the 13th Hakurei shrine maiden. Yeah ok retard

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 01:26:13 2018 No.19585298 >>19580026 Go on...

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 01:28:53 2018 No.19585311 >>19583538 >But since we don't know what those reasons are, I get to make them up. basically all of your posts, ever

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 07:37:37 2018 No.19587008 >>19582759 >>19585298 Seems to be a doujin circle that releases written works. Zounose does the illustrations for them, since they probably can't draw.

Anonymous Sun Aug 5 09:45:14 2018 No.19587704
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A fun little fact I've wanted to share since I found it.

As you all know, in VINTAGE, Sakuya offered up her right leg to Remilia, replacing it with a mechanical leg made by Alice.
Ever since that doujin, whenever Sakuya is drawn, either her right leg is obscured from view, or the story seemed to have taken place before VINTAGE (Happy Birthday Remilia is an example).
Readers like me are left wondering whether or not that stuck with the rest of his works, because it's not really a sure thing if Zounose sticks to the events that happened in his previous doujins.
In Kaminare, Sanae's charms start turning to dust. Then in the next page (taking place moments after it) she has them back on.
On the other hand, Momiji still wears the bone necklace that she made in Souku no Kiba whenever she appears in her tengu clothes (she removes them or wears it underneath her going-out clothes in MOMIZI ROLL).

The question of whether or not Sakuya's leg remained, remained unanswered until MOMIZI ROLL.
On page 28, we see a silhouette of Sakuya's right leg.
Note that is considerably different in shape from her left leg, and it has the same pointed foreleg as the one shown in VINTAGE.
After six years, we now know for sure that VINTAGE was "canon".

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 10:54:00 2018 No.19588077 >>19587704 sakuya has a weird leg haha

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 11:10:22 2018 No.19588210 File: 7 KB, 255x255, 3d347683553016be7cad77a9335878063d95a9ddd98dee63640c009a0cbaed3c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19587704 >a little fun fact >little >wall text

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 11:24:59 2018 No.19588367 File: 18 KB, 124x169, uboa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19588210 >wall text whom quote?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 15:56:47 2018 No.19590286 >>19588367 Go back

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 16:29:54 2018 No.19590461 >>19590286 you first newposter-kun, if you're gonna get triggered every time someone asks who quote you're going to be one angry little boy

Anonymous Sun Aug 5 19:35:29 2018 No.19591716

>>19583572
Like I said, considering the rest of the E-Mail and the text itself. He meant that the PCB prologue was probably written by one Reimu's successor. Rather than a previous Hakurei Shrine Maiden.

>>19585311
>But since we don't know what those reasons are, it's irrelevant.
What i'm actually saying. You disingenuous, imbecilic, dickhead.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 5 19:51:16 2018 No.19591815 >>19585311 dubs of truth

Anonymous Sun Aug 5 20:14:28 2018 No.19592012
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>>19590461
>>19590286
No need to shit up the thread when you're trying to fit in.
>>19588210
It is a small fact, but I took the time to ramble.

If you love Zounose and Forbidden Scrollery, you might also like Kioku no Kaibutu (記憶の怪物) by sayamendo. It's not gory like Zounose, but it has the same thrilling atmosphere of Zounose and Forbidden Scrollery, all set in a 20th century Gensokyo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 6 02:45:59 2018 No.19594096 >>19592012 Thanks. Gonna check this one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 6 02:53:37 2018 No.19594119 >>19592012 What if i like Zounose but dislike Forbidden Scrollery?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 6 04:22:44 2018 No.19594335 >>19594119 Then you're probably one of those people that thinks FS should have been even darker.

Anonymous Mon Aug 6 11:27:54 2018 No.19596370
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>>19592012
https://twitter.com/_mimasama/status/1026130704147476480
>さや先生が描いた「記憶の怪物」という同人誌の２巻が買いたいけどネット上には情報が見当たらないです。さや先生のpixivにもあの同人誌のページが削除されたようです。どうしてですか？
>I wanted to buy the "Kioku no Kaibutsu" 2 volumes, but I cannot find any info of it online. I looked at your pixiv but it seemed to be deleted. Why is that so?
>ごめんなさい。記憶の怪物下巻は完売してしまって、私の手元にもない状態です。そのためpixivからも情報を見えなくしてあります。ご了承ください。
>Apologies. Kioku no Kaibutsu's second volume [author may have misinterpreted here] has sold out, and I do not have them on hand. I have hidden / removed the pixiv page because of that. Sorry for any troubles.

I really loved this book and wanted to support the artist. Oh well, I'm two years late.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 6 23:55:24 2018 No.19600776 >>19596370 >再販する予定あります？それに将来コミケに参加する予定ありますか？ >Do you have plan of republishing? Maybe going to future comiket? >再販の予定は今のところありません >For now I have no plans to republish.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 04:14:57 2018 No.19602048 >>19600776 >people want buy more copies >"sorry, no." Sasuga, japs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 07:45:36 2018 No.19602989 >>19602048 Printing is not cheap, dude.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 07:58:15 2018 No.19603062 >>19533713 Because he's an edgy teenager who masturbate to grimderp stuff while listening to "CRAWLING IN MY SKIN".

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 12:03:49 2018 No.19604453 >>19603062 Its been some time since I heard even that title.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 12:06:11 2018 No.19604462 >>19604453 Fine, what about Hello Dark My Olde Friend?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 15:50:43 2018 No.19605529 >>19603062 You look mad. Did some fairy bullied you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 16:25:44 2018 No.19605659 >>19603062 He's probably pushing 30 by now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 16:37:24 2018 No.19605711 >>19605659 So he's a manchild, exactly like CWC. Even worse.

Anonymous Tue Aug 7 16:54:37 2018 No.19605778

>>19605711
"When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 7 16:58:02 2018 No.19605795 >>19605778 >being ashamed of reading He's been to a public school. I can tell.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 8 01:40:26 2018 No.19608132 >>19603062 Which touhou should listen Linkin Park?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 8 04:32:15 2018 No.19608681 File: 28 KB, 255x443, __kagiyama_hina_touhou_drawn_by_kugelschreiber__c22273778a7fb49b98abc46f9bb6142f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19608132 Probably Hina.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 8 18:44:14 2018 No.19612923 Zounose is a classic case of love or hate.

Anonymous Wed Aug 8 21:06:58 2018 No.19613591

>>19583538
The Gensokyo Record was written in universe, the rest of the prologue wasn't. Gensokyo was sealed more than a century after Reimu's story, and there not being mentions of spellcard rules or the mentions of everyone being an exterminator only makes sense fitting old Gensokyo, why would everyone ditch spellcards and go back to being exterminators in the future? It's a better system that allows youkai and humans to live peacefully without having to kill each other.
The Record was written and edited by ser
>The only one full of shit is you.
But you didn't even know of the emails. Anyway, I think ZUN made it unreliable because he wanted to convey a public record that was distorted and it's contents were expanded or removed freely, it was never meant to be taken seriously for him. You can believe it's a retcon if you want.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 9 00:04:51 2018 No.19614776 >>19608681 >Probably

Anonymous Thu Aug 9 04:29:45 2018 No.19615879

>>19613591
The Gensokyo record is a lead in to the PCB part of the prologue. And ZUN even claimed in that E-Mail you linked that the record DOES contain stories about Reimu & Co. Thus, it's impossible for it to be written in the past.

>why would everyone ditch spellcards and go back to being exterminators in the future? It's a better system that allows youkai and humans to live peacefully without having to kill each other.
I don't know. Maybe the Human Villagers become considerably more powerful in the future, and, since they still really hated Youkai, decided to screw the spellcard rules in favour of actually exterminating them.

Or maybe it's just a awkward retcon that ZUN didn't really think about that.

>But you didn't even know of the emails.
I have actually heard about them. Might have even read them a long time ago.

>Anyway, I think ZUN made it unreliable because he wanted to convey a public record that was distorted and it's contents were expanded or removed freely, it was never meant to be taken seriously for him.
That's all fine and well, you might even be right about it. But it is still a retcon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 9 05:16:10 2018 No.19616014 >>19615879 *Or maybe it's just a awkward retcon that ZUN didn't really think about.

Anonymous Thu Aug 9 05:44:42 2018 No.19616103

>>19571193
>>19571332
>>19571344
>>19571367
>>19571402
>>19571443
>>19571469
>>19571511
>>19571590
>>19573383
>>19574018
>>19574098
>>19574463
>>19574564
>>19574639
>>19574745
>>19574977
>>19575147
>>19575502
>>19578722
>>19579683
>>19583538
>>19583572
>>19591716
>>19585311
You're both autistic, but the one who started it by going to ad hominem instead of making a valid point is the retard of the bunch. And that, by the way, would be >>19571332

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 9 06:05:18 2018 No.19616154 Imagine being so insecure that you feel the need to look down on Internet people.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 9 06:24:58 2018 No.19616210 >>19616103 I think i'm going to end this argument, it's obviously not going anywhere. And I should have never responded to this post >>19570805 in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 9 06:38:22 2018 No.19616265 If Youkais are the master race, then why is humanity winning? Checkmate, youkai fuckers.

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Anonymous Thu Aug 9 17:39:28 2018 No.19620057

>>19615879
>It was not necessarily read at the same time as the story took place.
What was written by the 13th shrine maiden could had been written anytime prior to Reimu. It's a public record people have added content to for centuries, including Reimu. There's content from Reimu (which we don't even see) but I still don't see why wouldn't there be content from previous shrine maidens.

Also, can you please stop placing so much spaces? It makes your posts unnecessarily big. You also don't need to quote everything, anyone with a functioning brain can understand what you're talking about from the context.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 9 22:35:09 2018 No.19621759 >>19616265 Who said humanity is on the lead?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 9 23:07:42 2018 No.19621958 >>19621759 The humans in the Outside World who don't deal with Youkai shits and forced them to live in Gensokoyo and who can nuke the planet and moon 20 times over to end all life.

Anonymous Thu Aug 9 23:14:36 2018 No.19622007
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>>19533713
Zounose's only problem is his obsession with cannibalism and that's pretty much it. the rest of his stuff I personally find pretty accurate.
Also he has a sense of humor >>19548001 and the things in his doujins aren't inherently sexual or have sexual implications other than through jokes.

Anonymous Thu Aug 9 23:23:17 2018 No.19622082
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>tfw read all the english Non-H doujins in Panda that seemed interesting
>don't know what else to do
Give me some good non-H doujins to read. Hopefully I haven't read them already. Some good humorus ones would be nice.

I've already read all of Fuantei's, OmChicken's, and Bomber Grapes stuff. And also already read The Immortals who saw the End of the Universe.

>>19592012
Read this one. It's really nice. A good Mystery.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 00:25:17 2018 No.19622473 >>19622082 You start reading the Japanese ones. That's one of the main reasons I learned Japanese: to read good touhou doujin and only waiting for scans, not TL. If you have good untranslated doujin you want to read link them to me.

Anonymous Fri Aug 10 00:37:07 2018 No.19622526
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>>19622473
Anything I'd ever want translated would be anything Fuantei or Zounose since those are the artists probably still making things. at least I believe so.
Until then I'm content with the drip-feed that "ADT555" guy has been typesetting and uploading.
The guy uploads like 2 or 3 2hu doujins every week or so.
Pic related was a recent one and it's about the Shoehead's origins. It was quite good, actually. Pretty nice art, too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 01:16:30 2018 No.19622730 File: 267 KB, 308x779, this is bait.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Zounose's stuff makes up a good chunk of my 2hu panel images.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 05:17:26 2018 No.19623744 >>19622730 Yes. Say what you want about his stories, but the man can draw.

Anonymous Fri Aug 10 05:29:09 2018 No.19623790

>>19620057
It couldn't have been written by any of Reimu precursors because it leads straight into the plot of PCB. It's also written in a way that makes it clear that a decent amount of time has passed since the barrier was created. Meaning that in the last fifty to forty years the Human Villagers went from "EVERYBODY can fight Youkai" to "Town of distressed damsels".

I've said all of this already. I don't think this is going anywhere, and we should probably just stop. I'll even let you have the last word!

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 11:38:53 2018 No.19626052 >>19623744 Such wasted potential. It's tragic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 12:01:17 2018 No.19626229 >>19626052 Eh, I feel the same way about Canon Touhou. It's just more disappointment for me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 12:55:26 2018 No.19626686 Moriya-sama is now my go-to recommendation whenever people call Zounose a hack writer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 14:03:41 2018 No.19627189 >>19626686 Tbh i don't get that doujin at all. That creepy Sane is still creepy, though.

Anonymous Fri Aug 10 15:11:24 2018 No.19627528

>>19623744
Nobody said he can't draw. People just say he lets his imagination get the better of him, and loves shoving guro and violence for shock value.
I don't have that much issue with Zounose, but I hate his fans. They're all small edgelords constantly repeating "NU UH THIS IS HOW TOUHOU IS".

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 15:35:16 2018 No.19627662 >>19623790 >I'll even let you have the last word! But it's not about having the last word, nor is it about winning or losing, I'm just sharing my interpretation on why to me it was written in the past and trying to convince you on my point of view.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 16:10:41 2018 No.19627919 >>19627528 He doesn't do it as often as I'd think though. The Rainfall doujin has no gore in it at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 16:12:57 2018 No.19627931 >>19627919 >he doesn't do it as often >that one doujin has no gore This is probably just clumsy writing on your part, but one exception doesn't really prove me wrong.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 16:19:17 2018 No.19627965 >>19627931 As often as I'd think. Don't cut my words up. I remember hearing about this shit a while back from people thinking it was nothing BUT gore, and when I went in, it was only like one detailed thing per chapter and that was pretty much it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 16:28:36 2018 No.19628025 >>19627965 >Don't cut my wo FUCK DA POLICE

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 16:55:15 2018 No.19628170 File: 89 KB, 460x259, patche_bad_day.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19627528 >I don't have that much issue with Zounose, but I hate his fans. They're all small edgelords constantly repeating "NU UH THIS IS HOW TOUHOU IS".

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 17:54:05 2018 No.19628481 File: 214 KB, 1943x732, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't care if it's grimderp or not, it provides amazing reaction images

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 18:25:47 2018 No.19628620 File: 196 KB, 372x511, contrarian.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 10 20:39:37 2018 No.19629235 File: 308 KB, 1280x1814, DODO_007.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19628481 The Dodo one is one of the best.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 11 01:21:26 2018 No.19630671 >>19629235 I really like when doujins have a "cold open".

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 11 01:29:16 2018 No.19630714 >>19630671 It's great because the Dodo opening is really funny and not to be taken seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 11 01:32:10 2018 No.19630727 >>19630714 t.Dutch

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 11 01:35:25 2018 No.19630741 File: 813 KB, 1216x667, eh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19630727 >t.Dutch

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 11 22:05:59 2018 No.19638019 >>19616154 The weak should fear the strong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 12 03:58:14 2018 No.19639819 bump for xannibalism

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 12 12:12:35 2018 No.19642643 File: 506 KB, 1280x1814, zounose thread.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19629235

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 12 13:50:12 2018 No.19643547 >>19642643 Template the TV and you got a winner.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 13 01:48:31 2018 No.19647650 >>19642643 I wish these threads weren't so fucking bad. I wish Kemonomichi was still making 2hu content. I wish Imizu got a fucking writer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 13 02:35:14 2018 No.19647857 >>19643547 It's already a winner. Plus, you can make the template yourself it's so easy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 13 18:14:43 2018 No.19652990 File: 207 KB, 850x1210, 1534198483426.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19647650 >I wish Imizu got a fucking writer. Don't bully Imizu pls

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 13 22:05:08 2018 No.19654482 >>19652990 Why is Raisin really big in that last panel?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 02:33:01 2018 No.19655842 File: 256 KB, 1134x700, [Fuantei (Furari, Kome Dorobou)] Monosugoku Zetsubouteki de Arienai Hodo D.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What does /jaypee/ think about Fuantei?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 02:41:58 2018 No.19655870 >>19655842 They now draw Fate stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 03:08:06 2018 No.19655966 >>19655870 >they now draw Fate stuff Ouch. How disappointing. They shit has some of the best humor right next to the bombergrape stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 03:30:29 2018 No.19656065 >>19654482 She's not. Remi is just small and sitting down.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 03:36:02 2018 No.19656084 >>19656065 why is Raisin an elf

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 03:47:37 2018 No.19656130 >>19655870 >>19655966 Why did it have to be them, /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 04:21:51 2018 No.19656274 >>19656130 Because for whatever reason fateshit got really popular. I still know why. It's like how Touhou became massively popular for almost no real clear reason.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 05:00:20 2018 No.19656428 >>19656130 >>19656274 FGO is really popular in Japan these days

Anonymous Tue Aug 14 10:24:33 2018 No.19658212

>>19655842
I like that he draws TD cast and pulls it off.
TD cast is very boring for me, but the personalities he writes are very fun.
>>19647650
>>19652990
imizu fills my battle touhou needs.
UDONGE vs YOUMU was pretty fun to read.
I wonder if there was ever an artist that did a touhou story spread over multiple doujins (like five to ten of them). Imizu could make it work if he did.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 10:38:26 2018 No.19658322 >>19574463 >talked about Touhou You've derailed numerous threads with your autism. Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 10:42:25 2018 No.19658350 I want to be the hot-blooded protagonist who fights against the evils of Grimsokyo and saves everyone!

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 11:00:11 2018 No.19658469 Zounose is a great example of trying too hard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 11:50:33 2018 No.19658823 File: 719 KB, 2268x3153, 1534261833419.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19658469 but with talent to draw

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 13:03:55 2018 No.19659302 >>19658350 >Hot blooded. Boring. Make the character slow and thoughtful instead.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 14 13:05:01 2018 No.19659308 >>19658322 No, the only people who derailed threads with their autism are the anon's that are too childish to accept somebody has a different opinion about Touhou.

Anonymous Wed Aug 15 01:53:06 2018 No.19663823
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>>19533713
Touhou is Yukari sama's mindcontrol, merely discussing it and her furthers her beautiful control over us. Let our hearts hail the heavenly Yukari sama! Praise be upon her! For she rules our will and soul, and commands us so brilliantly! Oh Goddess, let the cosmos one day lie laced about your little finger, forever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 15 05:05:57 2018 No.19664734 >>19658469 >trying too hard Explain.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 15 07:58:26 2018 No.19665315 >>19658469 > trying too hard. you too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 15 19:40:42 2018 No.19669594 >>19665315 No u

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 15 20:28:49 2018 No.19669899 >>19669594 And u too

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 16 19:32:58 2018 No.19677322 bump

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 17 06:59:30 2018 No.19680607 File: 495 KB, 1280x1850, img268.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Has anyone else read this yet? I liked this battle scene between Momiji and Sakuya.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 17 07:00:41 2018 No.19680611 File: 474 KB, 1280x1842, img269.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19680607 ... forgot to spoiler the image. Oh well.

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