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Visual Novel translation status


>Aiyoku No Eustia - 23.47% Translated, 15.53% edited
Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "2284/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (98.9%)"
Clover Day's - 100% translated, editing + TLC still to go
Chaos;Head Noah - Fan translation ongoing
Daitoshokan - 100% translated and edited, images, engine work and QC remain
Gakuen Heaven 2 - Demo released
Heart no Kuni no Alice - 91% translated, 4rd partial patch released
Junketsu Megami-Sama - partial patch released
Kanojo to Ore to Koibito to - 8% (2443/28887) lines translated
Koiken Otome Revive - 9% (2324/27095) lines translated
>Lover Able - 93.22% translated
Maji Koi A-3 - 20/95 scripts translated
>Majo Koi Nikki - 92% (37155/40208) lines translated, prologue patch released
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 3 semi-active projects, one project released ch 1-7
Monster girl quest paradox - Part 1 patch released
>Musumaker - 42.4% translated
Nursery Rhyme - 100% translated
Oreimo Tsuzuku - All scripts through TLC+Editing, 207/268 scripts finalized
>Pure Pure - 42.02% translated
Sansha Mendan - 100% translated, editing and some technical work remain
Sayonara wo Oshiete - 116405/257436 (45.2%) characters translated
>Shin Koihime Musou - 88% (95528/108888) translated, 7% (7601/108888) edited
Sukimazakura to Uso no Machi - 13,183 / 30,513 Lines (43.2%) translated, 1 route translated, partial patch released
Tsui Yuri - 46% (2687/5872) QC
>Tsujidou-san no Jun'ai Road - 57.05% translated, common + Ai route released
>Tsuriotsu - 6823/31643 (21.6%) lines translated, 3490/31643 (11.0%) lines edited
Ushinawareta Mirai o Motomete - 34% (11889/35476) lines translated
>Venus Blood Chimera - 77,8% (28690 / 36862 Lines) translated, partial patch released
>Witch's Garden - 34% (18040/53677) lines translated
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 100%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.88%, Motoka 39.91%, Common and Kazuha fully edited



Official work

MangaGamer
>Hadaka Shitsuji - Released
Umineko - Chapters 5-8 have a 11/17 release
>Kuroinu - Chapter 2 has a 11/17 release, Chapter 3 fully translated and 7% edited
Higurashi Hou - chapter 5 released. chapters 6-8 through TLC+Editing, answer arcs to be released within a year and Rei arcs started
Bokuten - Port in progress
SukiSuki - In Beta
Imouto Paradise 2 - Nearly out of testing
>Fata morgana fan disc - 97% translated, 44% edited
Sorcery Jokers - In testing, Winter release
Maggot Baits - 60% translated
>Hapymaher - 100% translated, 90% edited
Hadaka Shitsuji fandisc - Picked up
>Shiei no Sona-Nyl - 15% translated
>Hashihime - 100% translated, 36% edited
>Trinoline - 50% translated, 4% edited
>Kyonyuu Fantasy Gaiden - 100% translated, 89% edited
Evenicle - 100% translated and edited
Magical Marriage Lunatics - 100% translated and edited
Damekoi - 100% translated and edited, in scripting
Koropokkur - In development
Sonohana Maidens of Michael - 100% translated and edited
Supipara ch 2 - 100% translated and edited
Ritaania no Seirei Tsukai - In testing
Room No.9 - Picked up
>Sengoku Rance - 43% translated, 10% edited
>Rance Quest - 28% translated
Overdrive's Final title - English release planned
>2 announcements planned for Anime NYC


JAST
>Eiyuu*Senki - Released
Princess X - October 31st release
Princess X fandisc - Picked up
Flowers - Volume 2 Winter release, 60% translated
Katahane - Fully translated, in editing + QC, Early 2018 release
Majikoi - 2018 release
Trample on Schatten- Translation 100%, in editing, porting complete
Django - Waiting on translation.
Sweet Home - 100% translated, debugging script
Sumaga- Fully translated, 70% edited
Machine Child - Announced

>> No.17824760

Sekai/Denpa/Maiden
>Ley-Line: The Borderline of Dusk - November release
>Ley-Line: Daybreak of Remnants Shadow - 87% complete
>Ley-Line: Flowers Falling in the Morning Mist - 50% translated
Riajuu Plus - Release "within a couple months"
Grisaia no Rakuen - R18 version 100% translated, "engine work, integration, and then final QA" remain
Hoshizora no Memoria - 100% translated, Kickstarter finished, Fall 2017 release
Hoshizora no Memoria Eternal Heart - Kickstarter finished
>KaraKara 2 - 100% translated, Autumn release
Miko no Kanata - 2017 release
Nanairo Reincarnation - Early 2018 release
Baldr Sky - Combined release of Dive 1 + Dive 2 in mid 2018
The Bell Chimes For Gold - 62% translated
Memory's Dogma - Code:01 Released, 02 onwards upcoming
2236 A.D. - 100% translated, Engine/QA work ongoing
Maitetsu - In QA, Denpa version announced
Kokonoe Kokoro - 100% translated, engine work
Creature to Koi Shiyo - 100% translated, engine work
Tenshin Ranman - 99.01% translated, Denpa version announced
Koikuma - 74.19% translated, 2017 release
Fault - Silence the Pedant - Demo released, Q4 release
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
Fatal Twelve - voiced demo released
Her and Her and My 7 Days - 70% translated
>Girls in Glasses - In QA
CyberRebeat - Picked up
G-senjou no Maou - Denpa version announced
Re;Lord ~Herford no Majo to Nuigurumi~ - 100% translated
Nekopara Vol 4 - Announced
Rewrite+ - Picked up
NarKarma EngineA - Announced
Dracu-Riot - Picked up
Senren * Banka - Picked up
Ninja Girl - Announced
Island Diary - Announced
Neko-nin exHeart +Plus - Announced as two DLC additions
Love Duction - Picked up
Koi ni, Kanmi o Soete - Picked up
Subete no Koi ni, Hanabata o. - Picked up


Frontwing
Sharin no Kuni - December release
>Grisaia Phantom Trigger Vol 4 - 1/26 release
Momoiro Closet - Spring 2018 release
Island - 100% translated, 40-50% edited, 2018 release
2 upcoming secret announcements


Visual Arts
Little Busters - November 1st release
Angel Beats - 50% translated


Degica
Muv Luv Alternative - Released, R18 patch still to come
Muv-Luv Photonflowers - Translation started
Muv-Luv Photonmelodies - To follow Photonflowers
Schwarzesmarken - Through Greenlight
Kiminozo - Picked up


Aksys
Code: Realize fandisc - 2018 release
7'scarlet - 2018 release
Kokuchou no Psychedelica - 2018 release
Haitaka no Psychedelica - 2018 release


Fruitbat
SeaBed - December 26th release
Seven Days - Late 2017 release
Chuusotsu! 1st graduation - Kickstarter finished, demo released, late 2017 release


Other
Magical Charming - Fall release planned
Song of Memories - Fall release planned
Hemoimo - Roughly 50% translated, Steam page up (placeholder release/title/etc.)
428: Shibuya Scramble - 2018 release
Dies irae - Released, uncut patch in final stages of debugging, distribution details being worked out
Tayutama 2 - Upcoming release
Sakura Sakura - Kickstarter finished, demo released
Love Sweets - Picked up
Noratoto - Picked up
Himawari to Koi no Kioku - On Steam Greenlight
Harumade, Kururu - Seems to have an English release planned
Moenovel is working on another new title related to astronomy that is nearly through translation
Monmusu - Announced
Taisho Alice - Volume 1 released
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

>> No.17824796

>>17824760
>>Grisaia Phantom Trigger Vol 4 - 1/26 release
What are the chances of being able to get all the volumes, bundled together and at a discount when all of them are finished?

>> No.17824924

>>17824796
Pretty high.

>> No.17824967

AoKana when?

>> No.17824982 [DELETED] 

>>17824759
>>17824760
save my scroll wheel and post this in a pastebin lmao

>> No.17825016

>>17824982
Kindly fuck off.

>> No.17825053

>>17824759
>Eiyu Sekai + Hadaka Shitsuji.png
>Eiyu Sekai
???

>> No.17825111

>>17824759
Someone's translating Angel's Feather over on Aarinfantasy.

https://aarinfantasy.com/forum/f16/t196775-angel%27s-feather-translation-project.html

>Script Completion: 108/986 (11%)

https://vndb.org/v2510

>> No.17825694

>>17825111
Aarinfantasy is the yaoi Fuwanovel. 99% of the translations done there are by random ESLs via machine translation.

>> No.17825740

>>17825694
well, since it's yaoi nobody cares about it

>> No.17826303

>>17824759
I wouldn't be surprised if SR reached 100% tl before Evenicle got released. MG's typical slowness of scripting and beta testing aside, the SR tl is going fast.

In any case, the games most likely to come out by the end of the year are ImoPara 2, Golden Fantasia, Sorcery Jokers, and Retarnia. Not the most exciting line up, but the first half of next year will likely involve Evenicle, Damekoi, Sono Hana, Hapymaher, and Magical Marriage Lunatics. Maybe Suki Suki will release one day too.

>> No.17826544

>>17826303
Evenicle will be out on Christmas. Fuck you.

>> No.17826637

>>17825053
That's pretty much the worst way you could spell anything. It's gonna piss off the Dovac haters and also Y(u)uki Guy.

>> No.17826834

>>17824759
I'm not sure if it was newly added, but the MG project page says that Imo Para 2 completed beta testing.

>> No.17827013

>>17825053
Jast actually opted to release it as Eiyu Sekai instead of Eiyuu Sekai, perhaps to differentiate the R18 release from the console release?

>> No.17827173

>>17827013
It's Senki, dude.

>> No.17827529

https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/924728738205405184

Doddler still the most hypocritcal asshole to ever escape Canadian prison.

>> No.17827585

>>17827529
He does work across the big 3 (JAST, MG and Sekai), so he would know the different conditions between each company and from what we have seen he isn't wrong.

>> No.17827608

>>17827585
He works for companies that don't give a shit about the quality of their work, with people who don't give a shit about the quality of their work, as well as supports them financially by buying their games and backing their Kickstarters. He's advocating one thing while actually acting to support the opposite. Hypocrisy.

>> No.17827654

>>17827608
>advocating
I don't see it. If anything I have seen him post shit on twitter about how bad some of SP's releases have been which would the the opposite.
Also you might want to learn what freelance is. You sometimes don't have a choice on what jobs you take if you want money.

>> No.17827674

>>17827654
He's advocating that people should give a shit about their work, while supporting those who obviously don't with his time and money. Not just freelance work, but in his spare time for no recompense at all. This isn't a difficult concept.

>> No.17827682

>2 NYC announcements from MG

Hm, what could it be

>> No.17827705

>>17827674
>while supporting those who obviously don't with his time and money
>Not just freelance work, but in his spare time for no recompense at all.
Who? SP? That is is his Freelance work or are you talking about the fix patch he made for SakuSaku? I don't think I would count that as supporting and was more a fan patch to fix shit along with again showing how bad a release it was. If you count that then the Yuuki guy is also "supporting" SP with his patch.

>> No.17827708

>>17827705
More than one person can be a hypocritical shitstain. There's not a monopoly on it.

>> No.17827713

>>17827708
Are you really saying the Yuuki guy is supporting SP?

>> No.17827717

>>17827713
Are you really trying to deflect away from Doddler?

>> No.17827724

>>17827717
No. I was just asking a question because what you said sounded ridiculous if you believe fan patches that fix shit is the same as supporting a company.

>> No.17827730

you Doddler hater in this thread is really ridiculous

>> No.17827754

Never4get Aroduc's death

>> No.17827768

>>17827724
Do you really believe that patches that fix shit ISN'T helping the company?

That's some next level tsundere bullshit, man.

>> No.17827773

>>17827682
I would say short nukige, but they would save that for Anime Boston or some other small convention unless they were releasing the nukige very soon. MG's release schedule seems a little too tight for that.

Last thread guessed Kindred Spirits voiced and Umineko fan disk. It's hard to guess what the announcements could be though.

>> No.17827775

>>17827730
I use to believe it was Aroduc shitposting, but I don't think he would be dumb enough to say fans fixing shit in buggy games is the same as supporting a company.

>>17827754
He isn't totally dead. He made a post on his forum talking about the tools for BB2 and the state they are in for BB3. Is a slim chance he might come back if he gets bored enough of ripping anime appart.

>> No.17827783

>>17827768
Unless said patches bothered to check if you're playing a pirated version or not, I would say no.

>> No.17827792

>>17827768
If it is showing up how buggy the original was it is doing the opposite of helping. It is bad PR when you have to get fans to actually fix shit that is broken.

>> No.17827796

>>17827682
I'm guessing one of them is the new otome title from the Fashioning Little Miss Lonesome dev.

>> No.17827815

>>17827792
>I'll show how bad they are by making their game good! I-It's not like I hate you or anything though.

No, that's not how it works. Fixing the problems, hiding the extent of how shitty the release is, and making something that was unplayable playable does not strike a blow against the company.

>> No.17827850

>>17827815
>Fixing the problems, hiding the extent of how shitty the release is, and making something that was unplayable playable does not strike a blow against the company.
If you have to download a fan fix that is a statement enough. Why would you bother buying their next release if you have to fall back on fans fixing shit? All it is going to do is encourages more people to pirate.

>> No.17827857

>>17827815
Doesn't matter as long as they don't have a store. That is the biggest blow to their sales ever, and they seem to not even care. "Download it through your mail!" Yea, I'll download it through my torrent program if that is what you want.

>> No.17827870

>>17827850
>Why would you bother buying their next release if you have to fall back on fans fixing shit?

Because you know that fans will fix it.

Compare this to the alternate scenario where nobody fixes it. Then you have an unplayable game that is never fixed, and the expectation for the future is an unplayable game that is never fixed. Do you understand the difference yet?

>> No.17827876

>>17827796
That game has been selling pretty decently based on how long it's been in the rankings, so its possible. That seems like the type of thing saved for AX or Otakon, but MG didn't announce an otome game this year. They may feel obligated to announce one in November.

>>17827857
Being worse than MG's store is a huge accomplishment.

>> No.17827882

>>17827870
And, might I add, that you yourself are describing him as a fan.

A fan who is making their products better for free.

This is supposedly hurting Sekai Project somehow.

>> No.17827884

>>17827870
That isn't how it works. Why would you buy if you know it is going to be subpar and have to wait on the fans? If you have to root for a fan fix every time then you will just be more likely to pirate.

>> No.17827892

>>17827775
Releasing the tools for BB2 is pretty funny, he complains about people screwing him and then gives away their work without crediting them.

>> No.17827900

>>17827884
And if you know that it will be unplayable forever, that makes it infinitely more unlikely. How the fuck do you not understand that eventually playable is a superior product to a shitty mess forever?

It does nothing but help a company to fix their mistakes for them, and it certainly doesn't do them any harm at all.

>> No.17827912

>>17827892
Psst
https://tlwiki.org/?title=Tools#SofthouseChara_.28Wizard.27s_Climber.29
https://github.com/dsp2003/arc_conv

>> No.17827973
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17827973

>>17827900
>unplayable
But it wasn't, so people were still going to play through it. One patch was a fix for the font and faces in the backlog and the Yuuki anon's patch was for the names. You even had a readme like pic related which sure is supportive.
>and it certainly doesn't do them any harm at all.
Bad PR is still bad PR which is harmful. No matter how you spin it having fans fix your shit does not look good on a professional level for a company.

>> No.17828014

>>17827900
When someone fan fixes a game, it's rarely because they particularly like a company (see Yuuki autist). It's because they want to make a playable version for themselves and their peers.

Any help that the original company gets from said patch is unintentional. Some people will buy because of the patch, most would just be more willing to pirate it. None of that is the original patcher's intention though, which is why it is ridiculous to accuse him for helping Sekai much like it is absurd to accuse Yuuki autist for trying to help out Mangagamer.

>> No.17828017

>>17827912
I wonder who wrote the CharaObjConv and the exetextpatcher tools in that pack...

>> No.17828104

It's going to be another December without angels isn't it...

>> No.17828142

>>17828014
>bad PR is worse than worse PR and an unplayable game

Are you shitting me here?

>> No.17828150

>>17828142
>unplayable
Where is this unplayable version?

>> No.17828290

>>17828150
The original one released, shit for brains.

>> No.17828297

>>17828290
But you could play all the way through it and just had bugs. Doesn't sound unplayable to me.

>> No.17828305

>>17828297
I will be the devil's advocate here and say that the only unplayable part were the misplaced emotes, which was fixed by SP (after Doddler said he messaged them about it).

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17828363

>>17828305
I dunno, it didn't exactly make the VN itself unplayable which is what the guy seems to be implying. To your average VN player, who has no foreknowledge of SakuSaku, only having names instead of faces in the backlog would seem normal.
If anything the fan fix patch brought to light the bug for all to see making it more notable that Sekai fucked up (which is bad PR for them). Even some of the people here weren't fully sure if it was an intentional change or not with how we all knew they have had engine issues.
To add if we widen the scope of stuff all Sekai's releases have been "playable", just in varying states of roughness with the worst being Chrono Clock on release.

>> No.17828376

>>17828363
I am talking about emotes, not backlog faces. Doddler's patch fixed the backlog faces. I said the gamebreaking bug was fixed by SP. Read before you say anything.

>> No.17828387

>>17828376
That still doesn't make it unplayable. you can still go through the whole thing from start to finish. If it crashed or the text was broken that would be a different matter.

>> No.17828431
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17828431

Top 5 Ranking: https://pastebin.com/gFmXa85R
Popularity Sort: https://pastebin.com/kch5p8rp
Full Data Point List: https://pastebin.com/xjtmktyc

As always, this tracker is powered by anonymous like you, so post order numbers if you've got em'.

>> No.17828453

>>17828387
To recap, you're saying that because Saku Saku wasn't LITERALLY unplayable, it hurts Sekai Project to have FANS diagnosing and fixing bugs for them for free. This is completely different from Sekai Project's patch fixing bugs for some reason. Therefore, it's not hypocritical at all for Doddler to be decrying shitty quality in Sekai Project games while paying for and supporting shitty quality in Sekai Project games.

>> No.17828469

>>17828453
>This is completely different from Sekai Project's patch fixing bugs for some reason.
Yes because one if by fans and one is by the company itself. The company should be doing the fixing in the first place not the fans.

>> No.17828483

>>17828469
>Is there a patch?
>Yes, download it from here.
>Yes, download it from HERE.

>These are two drastically different situations.

You're a special breed of stupid.

>> No.17828485

>>17828483
It's called being a professional company and if fans are doing the work for you, you look unprofessional.

>> No.17828489

>>17828483
One a shady link in a comment section and one a official link on their site. Which look better? I wonder.

>> No.17828505

>>17828485
You know what's more unprofessional than both of those situations that you seem completely incapable of grasping?

Not having a patch for the problems at all.

Seriously. How is this so fucking hard for you? A shitty product with no fix at all is worse PR, a worse product, and bodes worse in every way, than something that has a fix within days of being released, regardless of the source of it.

This is setting aside your ludicrous assumption that anybody ever could possibly think of Sekai Project, or any visual novel company at all, as professional.

>> No.17828518

>>17828505
I agree with this. The Stein's;Gate fanpatch helped get people to buy it, because it fixed most of the major issues the Steam release had.

>> No.17828551

>>17828505
What makes you sure Sekai wouldn't eventually release a patch? All your assumptions come from that the game will stay that way until the end of time.
As much as I hate to admit it but they do actually fix some shit, like in Chrono Clock's case as shown by the road map they posted on the Kickstarter and some of the info in the steam release notes section.

>or any visual novel company at all
You hate every single company in the business?

>> No.17828562

>>17828551
The speed of the fix is extremely important. Released in days has much more of an effect than weeks or months later. Sekai Project has promised to fix lots of things that they never have. Sekai Project lies, constantly, in their Kickstarters and out. Appealing to their integrity is retarded.

And I don't need to hate companies in this business to find them unprofessional.

>> No.17828586

>>17828562
SakuSaku got a day one patch. It didn't have the backlog stuff fixed in it but as I mentioned earlier your average user wouldn't notice that meaning the only thing really broken for them was the emotes. Chrono Clock also got it's first patch within a week. They are bad with release delays but they have been consistent in that metric.

>And I don't need to hate companies in this business to find them unprofessional.
What is a professional company to you then?

>> No.17828625

>>17828586
>the only thing really broken for them was the emotes.
And the font, and the text overflow. Your memory is shit.

>What is a professional company to you then?
One where the main employees/representatives aren't constantly picking fights on social media and/or talking about what they're currently masturbating to.

And then we can talk about business casual.

>> No.17828647

>>17828625
>One where the main employees/representatives aren't constantly picking fights on social media
Well, that's MG.

>> No.17828669

>>17828647
You have the memory of a goldfish.

>> No.17828708

>>17828669
He's not completely wrong, but even if MG's employees were trigger happy after Trump's election, they still pale in comparison to the antics of Dovac, the (ex?)CEO of Sekai Project.

>> No.17828744

>>17828708
That's an extremely low bar you're giving them credit for clearing.

>> No.17828956

http://games.seiha.org/viewtopic.php?p=18469#p18469

>> No.17829102

https://steamcommunity.com/app/560250/discussions/0/1479856439032666968/#c1479856439033844346

>> No.17829111

So should I download the Eiyuu Senki fan translation with more content, or the official translation with less?

>> No.17829114

>>17829102
Why the sudden change though? Although, there might be a silver lining. It'll get more people to use to MG store.

>> No.17829116

>>17829114
The rise in blatant porn has been pretty sudden as well.

>> No.17829235

>>17829111
The fan translation adds the ps3 scenes and is already uncensored. It's pretty obvious which one you should play unless you want to support JAST

>> No.17829271

>>17829114
Previous Info I had read was that you may not link to paid patches (which I don't think Sekai ever followed, because why follow steam rules?). That made sense as it was an attempt to make money outside of Steam on Steam games.

Free patches sound like some new stance from Steam.

>> No.17829402

>>17829235
But how is the quality of the fan TL compared to JAST?

>> No.17829445

>>17829402
It's the same thing anon. Jast just ripped off the PS3 version. Just download the FanTL. It also has the Vita extra scenes.

>> No.17829451

>>17829402
Well i just finished replaying the fan TL and I didn't notice anything that stood out. Most of it isn't even a fan TL, the base of the translation was by fruitbat who do decent work.

>> No.17829467

>>17829445
>>17829451
Downloading the fan TL now, thanks anons.

>> No.17829786

>>17829114
It could be for a similar reason as to why Patreon has gotten more strict on its sexual content. Maybe they are feeling pressure from paypal or the general press.

I doubt the rule will be enforced strictly though. MG has always been cautious, they'll probably avoid mentioning patches because of this (they may mention a full version on their personal website or something to that effect though).

If it is strictly enforced, Sekai and Frontwing will be hurt the most. They are both likely to ignore the rule otherwise, relying on their customers to not tattle and Steam not giving enough fucks even if they do.

>> No.17829824

>>17828625
Doddler's font is what broke the text overflow/wordwrap stuff for some lines from what I remember and there was a second release where he fixed some of it
https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/915212127505342464
https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/916232638024761345

>> No.17830298

>>17829824
He's such a good dood. I don't know why some guy is all up in his ass every single fucking thread. It's so damn tiring.

>> No.17830468

>>17830298
he has an insane dedication to stabbing his friends in the back

>> No.17830625

>>17830468
He was never Aroduc's friend

>> No.17832095

Hello vnts friends

>> No.17833981

So why is Dovac private again on Twitter? I didn't notice any raging idiotic posts from him.

>> No.17835143

It's been already 6 months since Higurashi ch. 5 released on Steam.
Why is there no news about the ch. 6 release.

>> No.17835357

>>17835143
Doodler is too busy sucking Dovac's dick.

>> No.17835386

>>17835143
No one cares about Higurashi.

>> No.17835783

>>17833981
Anons were accusing him of sexual harassment.

>> No.17836049

>>17835783
Could be a coincidence, but making your social media private after being accused of sexual harassment doesn't make you look innocent.

>>17835143
Doddler has to finish ImoPara 2 and Bokuten first at the very least. Maybe Fall 2018 or so.

>> No.17836238

Libra of the Vampire Princess was a complete flop and they're in the hole for $40k.

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>>17836238
>>17836248

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>>17836238
>>17836248
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>>17836238
>>17836248
>>17836253
>>17836264

>> No.17836284

>>17836248
>>17836253
>>17836264
>>17836271
Sounds like the typical thing of bad project management and underestimating costs. Pretty typical for kickstarter.
They would be better off moving on to something new now since not many new people are going to jump to read it. Only thing keeping at it will do is salvage reputation, but we have seen with Sekai that isn't always needed.

>> No.17836322

>Using expensive and shitty Japanese programmers.

What were they thinking?

>> No.17836324

>>17836284
Part of it was costs, but it also sounds like Libra didn't sell well on Steam despite having positive reviews. They said their sales didn't really help them to recoup their costs.

>> No.17836360

>>17836324
Steam reviews don't mean much and we all know the editing for it was pretty atrocious with some horrible sounding lines which had some people tell others to avoid it. Changing that now isn't likely to make more people go out and buy it as they likely already pirated it by now.
They just need to go and get something people would be interested in reading and do another kickstarter with better margins of error.

>> No.17836600

>>17836324
13 reviews is meaningless. Steam reviews don't matter unless they are at least a hundred even in a niche market, and the resulting score should be at least a Very Positive. Look at Melty's Quest for a recent example.

>>17836360
True. I'll probably pity buy later since they are giving a fuck about the translation, but most people won't. A retranslation should have been saved for when the company was in better times.

>> No.17836623

>>17836360
I found the TL mediocre, but the crashing was pretty bad.

>> No.17836949

If I don't remember wrong either, Libra happened to be a bit too focused on pee compared to what the general audience is looking for in an eroge.

I've personally not had time to get around to play it, even though I after long time got all my physicals.

>> No.17837025

>>17836324
I counted up the amount of keys they gave away in their kickstarter a couple weeks back and got about 1700-1800. Steamspy's estimate gave them 1,405 ± 1,121. So they probably sold only a few hundred copies of the VN after their kickstarter.

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>>17836623
I had forgotten why I dropped the VN after finishing a single route, and now I've remembered it was because of all the crashing. The VN itself isn't really good either. They have two side characters which are prominent in the common route but only get a small handful of development in *some* of the routes. The antagonist is perfectly set up to have a full fledged route of her own but she gets nothing other than a single scene. There's not even an actual harem route, just some shitty what-if scenario that's literally nothing other than 3 back to back scenes.

>>17836949
the whole peeing thing was done incredibly vanilla. I honestly have no idea how people are bothered by it. Sure it happens in almost every scene, but it's over in like 8 lines and nothing depraved comes from it. That I've seen anyway.

>> No.17837162

>>17837143
The routes themselves were bad, but the route endings + epilogue were very good.

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>>17837162
the first half of every route is almost exactly the same aside from the girl you picked and some minor differences in the fights. The first half also fucking sucks which is why this is a bad thing.

The girls themselves were cute though. Shame you don't get to spend a lot of time getting to know them.

>> No.17837312

>>17836324
When the Libra Kickstarter started, 5 figures for such a release on Steam would have been expected, however as of now 1-2k is more typical of a typical full release of something that isn't like Steins;Gate.

>> No.17837401

>>17836271
Honestly, trying to improve the script is going to do next to nothing for sales. The reason it didn't sell on Steam was because full length titles have in general found lackluster sales on Steam recently, not because the questionable translation. If they had some channel to get a large audience to be aware that they improved the script, they wouldn't need to in the first place since they would have been able to use that channel to sell it in the first place. Perhaps they can recover some sales overtime on Steam, but there is little that could be done to suddenly make it a big hit on Steam. They could also try to add the titles to more platforms (including Fakku's upcoming storefront), as they certainly would have a need to work with R18 storefronts to have any hope of making a meaningful profit if they proceed onward to Bitch Nee-chan ga Seijun na Hazu ga Nai as they have previously hinted, a title that would be hard to make a profit through the larger all ages focused platforms.

While the net lost on Libra wasn't solely because of Steam, I'm guessing with the decline of Steam sales, they are hardly the only company to find problems from overestimating what Steam would do from a title, just the one that has voiced the results and being a new startup it affects them much more than an established company with successes under their belt. MG seems to have been at a lost with the Propeller titles that they picked up at a higher than usual cost expecting strong Steam sales. Besides that, Sekai clearly seems to have taken a lost on some of their early licenses that they seem to have overpaid for, not approaching the break even point for Wagamama High Spec and managing to lose money despite respectable looking sales with G-Senjou. It does not appear that Frontwing has been reaching their expectations either, with Corona Blossom and Subahibi at least failing to meet their expectations based on comments we have seen for both.

>> No.17837438

>>17837401
Respectable sales? Didn't G-Senjou sell 5k? And it is among top 10 visual novels.

>> No.17837447

>>17837438
they overpaid the translation team and license. I'm honestly surprised anyone would buy it since it was all-ages AND you had to buy the DLC in order to have voices.

>> No.17837450

>>17837401
>Wagamama High Spec
This shit was so fucking bad. Great girls but every route was literally nothing happening: the route. No wonder it bombed.

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>>17837450
Pretty sure it bombed because SP released it. They didn't put a lot of effort into the translation, kept mosaics, (although in this very specific case the mosaics look good.) overpaid on the license AND never confirmed they were bringing over the fandisc. they also translated the oudated version and not the newer version which had more features available.

It had good girls and comfy routes. Had a different publisher worked on it and released it, I think it'd have sold decently well.

>> No.17837498

>>17837477
>comfy routes
C'mon, it was boring as fuck. Even by moege standards. Also, too much porn, almost nukige-tier.

>> No.17837520

>>17837498
sometimes people want a boring comfy experience. Nekopara for example, or Wanko to Kurasou. Honestly I'd have enjoyed Princess Evangile way more if the drama in the routes wasn't so ridiculously shitty.

>> No.17837536

>>17837477
>It had good girls and comfy routes. Had a different publisher worked on it and released it, I think it'd have sold decently well.

If Jast published it, perhaps because Jast manages to get a fair amount of volume through J-List. Short of that though, Wagahigh seems to have sold on par with most of MG's recent big Steam releases. The net loss for WagaHigh appears to be much more of a function of overpaying for the license as it was among the early titles Sekai picked up when Steam VN sales were at its peak.

>> No.17837537

mfw hapymaher tl makes actual progress

>> No.17837542

>>17837438
G-Senjou actually looks to be around 10k now on Steamspy, though if I recall correctly it was around 7k or so when Sekai noted that they didn't manage to make a profit on it.

>> No.17837551

>>17837520
>Nekopara
boring shit with ugly art. I will never understand why people love this meme trash
>Wanko to Kurasou
That was decent. Some good drama in main doggo's route as well.
>Princess Evangile
Worst moege I have ever had the displeasure to read.
It's not like I hate moege though, I loved Yuuri's route in SakuSaku for example, or CC as a whole, meme translation notwithstanding.

>> No.17837580

>>17837551
Ugly art was supposed to be in the Wanko to Kurasou line.

>> No.17837594

>>17837401
Unfortunately succeeding in the current market is about making do with low sales and keeping costs down. Mikandi's costs were completely unreasonable, they overspent on translation probably 5:1, and the translation still didn't even hit what I would say was a competent level. Their competitors (any one of them) could have done a better job for a fraction of the price.

They're not the only ones hurting though, Sekai is also reeling from the steam shift, they took more expensive licenses at a time when it seemed they'd be able to recoup the costs and are left hanging when steam sales don't deliver. MG and Jast at least appear to be weathering it pretty well, but both of them are used to dealing with a very low baseline prior to steam.

>> No.17837604

>>17837580
It was OK. At least not memepara-tier ugly samefaces.

>> No.17837615

>>17837604
Nekopara is cute.

>> No.17838381

>>17837594
JAST has J-List to piggy-bank out of, but it does help that they never went crazy with the licenses even with the prominence of Steam. That was partly because JAST didn't really benefit that much from Steam, even when compared to Mangagamer.

MG was probably hit by Space-Live flopping, and I have a feeling Go Go Nippon 2016 didn't sell that well. However, those were not money-intensive projects. The only major titles that may have been hit by the Steam bust is Higurashi and Umineko, but that has enough of a fanbase outside of Steam to still make a profit. And Supipara perhaps, though it's hard to say if that title would have been successful even if the Steam market was better off.

Furthermore, because of their success with large nukige, a significant amount of MG's growth during the "Steam era" was because they tapped into a reliable and sizable non-Steam audience. Steam helped, but Steam-related growth was more relevant in MG getting Supipara and their otome games as opposed to how MG got Rance. Sekai Project whose growth during that time stems mostly from the Steam market and the Kickstarter userbase, both which have weakened substantially since Sekai's claims to fame.

Speaking on companies relying on Steam and crowdfunding, the English side of Frontwing may also be screwed.

>> No.17838413

>>17835143
Just read the old versions like I did. All you need is a music patch and font patch.

>> No.17838462

>>17838381
With regards to MG, we know that Tokyo Babel (and probably the other Propeller title) disappointed and were more expensive licenses than they typically went after. Himawari may have ended up being an expensive license as well (and was picked up as they were looking to Steam), but I don't believe they ever commented on the costs of that. Myth and some of their OEL stuff that they got involved with funding also did poorly, but neither were likely big losses. Golden Fantasia probably is probably a rather big bet, though it is one that may still pay off in the end. They also are funding that thing with the Key artist, but it is impossible to guess what sort of costs that may have at this point.

Sekai obviously was dependent on the Steam marketplace, and they got burned by their early licenses that counted on uncapped growth on Steam instead of the collapse of VN sales. Though they appear to have been working on significantly reducing internal costs, and are getting ready to jump into the console market while trying to find an avenue to boost their R18 sales (noticeably making a big bet on the Fakku storefront). Though they still are benefiting from their early Steam successes, with the original Grisaia, Clannad, and especially Nekopara still selling long after their releases.

>> No.17838507

>>17838462
I always thought Propeller games looked fun. Just that I expected them to not be all-ages. I wonder if we will get any nice ones for adults.

>> No.17838769

>>17838507
Ayakashibito.

>> No.17839710

Little busters releases in 2 hours, who hype?

>> No.17839755

>>17839710
let me know if it ever gets a +18 re-release.

>> No.17839772

>>17838462
I suspect that if Golden Fantasia is a big bet, it would be because of the manpower put into it, not because of the cost of the license itself. I can't imagine it being more that much more than usual since Alchemist was going bankrupt anyways.

As for the game with the Key artist (Koropokkur), Mangagamer won't be able to fully fund itself through the Kickstarter because of the diminished crowdfunding community in general. MG will probably bear the bulk of the cost to set a goal that can be reasonably reached, hoping that the Kickstarter overshoots its goal or they make it back through traditional sales. As to what that reasonably achievable goal is, it's hard to say. Fruitbat Factory got $25k for its doujin VN kickstarter, and Sekai Project got $50K. MG could be somewhere in the middle, but the Itaru art could be enough to draw in more backers than would be expected.

Assuming the accusations of Sekai's tendency for frivolous spending were true, cutting back on that as well as restricting themselves to smaller licenses might help their situation. They also seem to be trying to gain back the trust of the general VN community by promising 18+ Maitetsu. Unfortunately, 18+ Baldr Sky doesn't seem like it's happening. I suspect Giga is the stubborn party in this case, though it's possibly partly Sekai's fault anyways by not clearly articulating why customers want an 18+ version. I personally don't think the console marketplace will help Sekai much since developing ports for consoles may increase development cost to the point that the extra sales don't offset it. The Fakku deal is interesting, but I don't see it doing much better than the Nutaku deal that ended. It depends on whether or not Fakku could do what Nutaku could not for non-gacha H-games.

>>17839755
The most you'll get is a fan patch.

>> No.17840400

Is Steins;Gate 0 any good? Does it hold up to the original?

>> No.17840468

>>17840400
no, not at all. felt lazy

>> No.17840492
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Princess X is now available from JAST.

https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/925537850824671232

https://www.jastusa.com/princess-x-my-fiancee-is-a-monster-girl

Steam Page for Eiyu Senki has also gone up

https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/925188489271848960

http://store.steampowered.com/app/691770/EiyuSenki_The_World_Conquest/

>> No.17840557

>>17840492
I wonder, will they release 2nd Flowers and Sweet Home this year.

>> No.17840602

>>17840468
Does it at least have a lot of Suzuha?

>> No.17840819

>>17840492
That is one ugly spider pussy.

>> No.17840827

>>17840819
NTR pussy too. People will get baited thinking it's a fun monstergirl harem. Can't wait until they finish it. All routes are shit. The MC hates monstergirls for fuck's sake.

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>>17824759
>20$ more and I can buy Hadaka Shitsuji and fuck Sakuma's ass uncensored
time to go out in the streets and suck some dick for my husband

>> No.17841284
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>>17840492
Based JAST.

>> No.17841390

Little Busters seems to be doing well. 107 concurrent users already.

>> No.17841588

Will they ever translate LB Ex?

>> No.17841681

>>17841588
Nope. The memorial edition on Steam has almost everything from Ex, except for the H-scenes. Wait for a fan-made patch.

>> No.17841686

>>17841681
It doesn't include Sasami's route does it?

>> No.17841698

>>17841686
It has all three extra routes (Sasami, Kanata, Saya)

>> No.17841706

torrent when?

>> No.17841723

>>17839772
Golden Fantasia is only really a big cost because they hired someone to add netplay. That requires paying a real programmer, can't imagine it's cheap if they want to do it right.

>> No.17841749

>>17841706
Seconded.

Someone needs to crack it first though so LB will take some time.

>> No.17841845

>>17839772
>Unfortunately, 18+ Baldr Sky doesn't seem like it's happening. I suspect Giga is the stubborn party in this case, though it's possibly partly Sekai's fault anyways by not clearly articulating why customers want an 18+ version.

An 18+ version is still in less dire straits than a U18 version. Sekai has no idea how to create it. Their answer was "Make Aroduc do it." Aroduc said no because he didn't know how to do it either. They have Doddler's script tool, because Doddler is a greedy backstabbing cunt, but you need to block out major parts of the game and of the engine itself to be able to get to U18. Sekai hasn't even been able to change fonts in games without assfucking the whole thing up. What makes you think they can surgically edit something a million times more complex?

>> No.17841931

>>17841845
Complexity doesn't matter as Sekai are happy with any result at all, even terrible ones.

>> No.17841960

>>17841931
It matters if they can't even create the product they're claiming to sell.

>> No.17841971

>>17840602
Yes and no. Original Steins;Gate spoilers: It's the Suzuha from the 'World War III' timeline, not the Suzuha from the 'SERN world domination' timeline you know from the original Steins;Gate. Due to her radically different background she's like a completely different person.

>> No.17842031

>>17841749
It shouldn't be that long as it should only have Steam DRM.

>> No.17842302

>>17841845
Given steam's current situation, it is probably acceptable to simply blank out particularly explicit cg without even cutting the script. Steam's policing seems to go as far as visible genitals, they don't seem to care at all about descriptions in text or even regular nudity. Possibly you might want to skip some of the less integral adult scenes or cut some of the more porny bits, but you wouldn't need to do it just for steam.

>> No.17842309

>>17842302
You're not very familiar with Baldr Sky's content, are you?

>> No.17842312

>>17842309
You're not familiar with what's allowed on steam recently, are you?

>> No.17842359

I wish MG stopped shitting out gay shit

>> No.17842498
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Sekai decided they wanted to show off their new logo for the game, but they're still using the Japanese title. What's the point?

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>>17842359
there's nothing wrong with a little bit of gay.

>> No.17842635

>>17842573
Gay shit obviously means fag shit. Yuri is alright.

>> No.17842666

>>17842573
Yuri not gay, you damn hater.

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>>17842635
>>17842666

>> No.17842719

>>17841971
Liking Suzuha is suffering.

>> No.17842756

>>17842635
>>17842666
Same disgusting gay shit

>> No.17842843

>>17842309
It can't be much worse than the rape nukige on steam that only have censored cgs and not censored text.

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>>17842756

>> No.17842859

LewdGamer posted a quote from Kouryuu noting that MG was also told by Steam to no longer include official links to R18 patches on Steam itself.

>On Friday, we received a notice from Valve demanding that we remove all links and discussion of adult patches from official sources on Steam, including the Steam Store Pages, and Steam Discussion boards. This is in direct conflict with what we discussed with Valve during our meeting with them, and Valve has not yet given us a reason why this policy has changed. So far they’ve only said they’ll follow up in a few business days.

>> No.17842877

>>17842756
fuck yourself hater

>> No.17842885

>>17842859
SJW attack I guess. It is usually the reason when acceptable things suddenly is unacceptable.

>> No.17842888

>>17842498
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/lets-bring-visual-novel-hoshizora-no-memoria-to-th/posts/2032289

>We wanted to let you know that Backers will be receiving early access to the Steam version of Hoshimemo on November 17th. We're hoping to have the 18+ version of the game sent to Backers then too, but can't guarantee it yet (this is due to distribution reasons, not technical). The retail version of the game will be released in January of 2018. Because this is a new engine, there might be a couple bugs, which is why we're delaying the retail release a bit. That'll give us time to fix any issues that may arise before making the game available to the rest of the world.

>> No.17843152

>>17842312
Which is immaterial because they've already announced it as U18, regardless of what Steam does or does not allow. You can't just put a black box on a dick to turn a pornographic scene U18.

And Steam's already cracking down severely. They're not going to be thrilled about gang rape torture of 10 year olds, no matter what age the game claims they are.

>> No.17843298

>>17843152
Actually, you sort of can.

Gahkthun had on-screen sex, but since the genitals themselves were not visible, they only got a M rating by the ESRB. Even if Baldr Sky's CGs are more extreme than a basic vanilla game or even something like Material Girl, Sekai could just black out the CGs entirely and everything will be dandy by Steam's standards.

>> No.17843305

>>17843298
It will certainly not be dandy by Steam users' standards.

>> No.17843314

>>17842859
it would be hilarious if people ended up buying subahibi and only playing the first chapter and never knowing there was more. actually thats probably for the best too

>> No.17843360

>>17843314
The Steam page for Subahibi never mentioned the patch to begin with. I guess they're just hoping that people will read the reviews before buying

>> No.17843396

>>17843360
in subahibi's case it's literally 25% of the game on steam, other 75% is the patch.

>> No.17843409

>>17843305
You'd be pretty surprised what's acceptable on steam these days. Like this game has been out for 6 months, has 120k owners, and appears perfectly fine:
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/862863634927779665/16BDBCEF0EA1A813AD32BCD12DD7C71DF80A3021/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/870743411724771823/1A17AA08BB6E8447C27C37B112C0929E34CE9953/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/785162641081826787/CE1583E457FB0BA48A275CC290064DB85B0435E7/

As long as you can't see genitals, it's not porn in valve's eyes.

>> No.17843413

>>17843409
I said USERS, not Steam itself. If they hear it's blacked out when it should not be blacked out, hellfire will rain down.

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>>17843409
>>As long as you can't see genitals, it's not porn in valve's eyes.

This applies to gay games too.

Coming Out On Top kept all the sex scenes on Steam and just mosiac'd them.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/642090/Coming_Out_on_Top/

This seems to also apply to IOS.
Tennenouji released LuckyDog1 with the sex scenes intact and just cropped out the genitals.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/%E3%83%A9%E3%83%83%E3%82%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%83%E3%82%B0%EF%BC%91-tennenouji-app/id649788973?mt=8

>> No.17844251

https://twitter.com/Taosym/status/925759754672025601

LOL

>> No.17844286

>>17844251
Not surprising to be honest.

>> No.17844430

The first day peak for Little Busters on Steam was 151 concurrent users, although it doesn't tell us nearly as much as usual about how the the title is going to do because Little Busters is likely to follow other Key titles which have sold for a long time after their release so the immediate launch isn't quite as important. Concurrent users can be used to judge what kind of a day 1 activity a title has, and is good for comparing similar releases (such as two relatively unknown moege released after the Steam craze that will likely get a bunch of sales quickly then fade off), but all it tells us here is Little Busters managed to get a decent amount of initial activity.

Clannad's all time peak is 238, but it is up to roughly 56k on Steamspy, Kindred Spirits has a similar 228 concurrent user peak with a Steamspy estimate of 16k, and Ozmafia peaked at 246 concurrent users and has a Steamspy estimate of roughly 7k. Looking at a other recent Key titles, they have shown impressive sales long after their release. Tomoyo After only ever peaked at 31 concurrent users with its surprise launch, but it is now up to roughly 20k in sales, while Harmonia peaked at 70 concurrent users but is up to roughly 10k in sales.

>> No.17844568

>>17842888
How many times will it be delayed?

>> No.17844581

Sakuragame now has a website- http://www.sakuragame.com/about/

>> No.17844758

Jast should have licensed https://vndb.org/v10325
The people who will buy Princess X expecting something like the Monmusu manga will be severely disappointed. Licensing this was a mistake. The fandisk will flop for sure too.

>> No.17844785

>>17844758
I read like 2 hours so far and it's been pretty good.

>> No.17844830

>Flowers - Volume 2 Winter release, 60% translated
>Winter release

Source? It's JAST so i can't be sure.

>> No.17844832

>>17844581
Their site doesn't even have proper word wrapping. Words gets cut in half on quite a few lines on that page... True Sakura game quality!

>> No.17844947

Any update on the Dies Irae patch or is it still just "eventually"?

>> No.17845021

>>17844785
I don't want to spoil you anon. The endings aren't good. That's all I can say. Just be prepared.

>> No.17845059

>>17844947
Guess.
They made their last update halfway through last month apparently due to concerns over their lack of updates, so of course they would go silent again immediately afterward.

>> No.17845268

>Valve Corp. [Operating in China as V社] Spokesman Doug Lombardi, has now said clearly that they do not want Steam to become a foothold for pornographic materials and will clamp down.

http://www.chuapp.com/article/283291.html
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SVXdSvVDFysW26p5EoqcvD6BTH5l0yN89BT265cOWc8

>> No.17845285

>Standalone NEKO-NIN exHeart DLC, NEKO-NIN exHeart +PLUS Nachi will be releasing tomorrow!!

https://twitter.com/sekaiproject/status/925909412266561536

>> No.17845290

>>17844430
Keyfags stronk.

It's fair to say that LB will likely sell more than Tomoyo After and Harmonia at least. I don't think that it'll surpass Clannad, because both the VN and anime adaptation in general are less well regarded, and early Sekai had a more prominent Steam presence than modern day Key Visual Arts. If it does sell more, it would be because of the significantly better art, but I don't think that is a big enough motive to make it over Clannad.

Still, with how much Clannad sold without any bundles involved, you'd think Sekai wouldn't have so many money issues. I guess that are the consequences of poor internal management.

>> No.17845312

>>17844830
https://www.jastusa.com/blog/cat/news/post/Anime-Expo-2017-Announcements/

>FLOWERS: SUMMER IS 60% TRANSLATED AND COMING WINTER 2017.

>> No.17845474

>>17845268
So... basically valve reversing course on adult patches is sakuragame's fault, because their strategy of using steam to effectively sell porn in china (normally against chinese law) has resulted in games media directly contacted valve china for clarification and forcing them to change policy.

>> No.17845522

>>17844758
maounama, what a depressing nukige. the mc celebrates his bday alone and contemplates suicide but stops bc he would miss out on anime and games

>> No.17845529

>>17845474
Steam breaking the deal with MG because I bought Dragonia on Steam for $1. Consequences of small actions are amazing.

>> No.17845540

>>17845059
Kickstarters seem to be in general run by making no reports for 3 months, then apologize for it with no new info, to again have no reports for 3 months.

>> No.17845547

Wild Romance is getting an 18+ version according to lewdgamer. A new company called Cherry Kiss Games got it.

https://www.lewdgamer.com/2017/11/02/cherry-kiss-games-wild-romance/

They don't seem to be related to SakuraGame, but the naming is unfortunate nonetheless.

>>17845529
To be fair, it was at least thousands of such small actions. I suppose it can't be helped though.

>> No.17845577

At some point within the past week MG gave Nutaku Please Bang My Wife, which is both the first 1st party MG title and 1st Japanese title since the Spring.

>>17845285
They have the second Neko-nin DLC listed for November 17th as well.

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>>17845268

>> No.17845828

>>17845268
I guess it was never meant to last long.
But I also guess this means not all that much is going to change because it barely even got started.

>> No.17845852

>>17844430
Personally I went ahead and bought Little Busters but I'm gonna wait to play it until someone puts a full walkthrough out.

>> No.17845854

>>17845828
MG probably wouldn't be affected much since they were operating under that assumption for a while until recently. The rest though might have more problems.

>> No.17845865

>>17845852
Can't you use the walkthrough already on TLWiki? It covers all the pre-Ecstasy routes at least.

Unless you meant Sasami's, Kanata's and Saya's routes.

>> No.17845870

>>17845852
Please upload and I will give you a link for walkthrough!

>> No.17845876

>>17845852
Use this?
https://tlwiki.org/?title=LB!:Walkthrough

I mean, it even have the walkthrough for the EX route, but the choice is in nip.

>> No.17845877

>>17843360
The Subahibi Steam page has a link to an "important announcement" which takes you to the Kickstarter updates page. The update with the patch link was one of the first updates you'd see but it's lower down the list now. But yeah it doesn't directly mention it.

>> No.17845883

>>17845865
>>17845876
Yeah I saw that one but part of it is untranslated. Kazamatsuri's supposed to be putting one out using the walkthroughs from the Japanese artbooks, like their Clannad walkthrough. I looked at the progress in the Google doc they had in a thread about it and it looks like it won't be much longer. I'm a bit busy with other things at the moment anyway so it works out.

>> No.17845898

>>17845883
Following walkthroughs is pathetic. I wouldn't expect anything else from all-ages fags.

>> No.17845904

>>17845898
Please no bully

>> No.17845910

>>17845898
Being serious for moment, though, I do think that that type of walkthrough is the ideal kind. It only tells you the choices that are mandatory or lead to extra scenes/CGs and leaves everything else up to you. I hate the kind that that don't make any distinction and tell you what to do at every choice, even the ones that don't matter really affect anything.

>> No.17845918

>>17845883
Only some of the choice, mostly the one in saya's route, is untranslated and since they're short sentence, you can just use googletl or something along with a bit of common sense to "translate" it.

>>17845898
Beating the neo baseball team on second playthrough is fucking hard man.
Not to mention that you have tons of item to memorize so you didn't waste any trade if you want to beat kengo and fucking saito.

>> No.17845929

>>17845898
I don't want to accidentally end up on the route of a girl I have no interest in.

>> No.17845964

>>17845898
>Following walkthroughs is pathetic
Try playing Kara no Shoujo without a walkthrough you fucker.

>> No.17845971

>>17845929
Not doing all routes in every VN
I seriously hope you guys don't do this.

>> No.17845999

>>17845971
Little Busters is a really crazy one to do 100% though, there are so many variations of scenes that's it's maddening.

Then again, I was the crazy one for not using auto-skip and doing the Common Route like 5 times on normal pace.

>> No.17846003

How much of a difference does Perfect Edition have on the old routes? I played the original fan translation years ago

>> No.17846005

>>17845971
>>17845999
What about Clannad? To get all of the light orbs you have to make certain choices in Nagisa's route which unlock other choices in After Story, complete Tomoyo's route after Misae's route, fail Nagisa's route to unlock Koumura's route, fuck up your relationship with Ryou to beat Kyou's route, etc.

>> No.17846014

>>17845999
The baseball and fighting RNG games are absolute crap though, luckily there's like one scene locked behind the fighting part

>> No.17846025

>>17845971
Unless it's something like Dies Irae or Fate there is literally no reason to read every girl's route. Usually there are 1 or 2 main girls with routes pertinent to main story and others are just there for padding the script, usually written by some literally who gook and not a main writer.

>> No.17846030

>>17846025
Of course some VNs force you to complete every route in order to get to the true ending, e.g. Little Busters, Clannad.

>> No.17846050

>>17846030
Chaos;Head was a bit more random as you had to even understand what the stuff to click on meant, and that not clicking meant a third answer.

Glad I read the walkthrough on that.

>> No.17846052

>>17846030
>some VNs force you to complete every route in order to get to the true ending
Those are bad vns. There is no reason to, for example, complete trap route in Clannad. Like, not at all.

>> No.17846073

>>17846052
>There is no reason to, for example, complete trap route in Clannad.
You mean Kappei? If so I agree. Clannad really needed to be trimmed down. The side routes didn't hold up in comparison to the main routes and making them mandatory reads was unfortunate. Also I will always be mad that the Misae route didn't have an actual ending where she got with Tomoya.

>> No.17846082

>>17845964
>Kara No Shoujo
While difficult, it is doable. Yu No is where you need a walkthrough. I have no idea how people completed that game before one came out.

>> No.17846095

>>17846014
To be fair, it becomes easier and easier on your 3rd-5th playthrough.

And seeing Saito self-destruct because he got that prism thingy is kind of fun.

>> No.17846101

>>17846073
>Clannad really needed to be trimmed down
Yes, That's why I love anime adaptation and hate actual vn.

>> No.17846123

>>17846101
There were things that I thought were better in the VN (Tomoyo, Kotomi, Nagisa routes, After Story cohabitation arc) and there were things that I thought were better in the anime (Fuko route, After Story birth and Ushio arcs, the ending). I doubt I'll ever play the VN again in its entirety but I still like to go back and play certain routes. I've watched the anime numerous times though and I don't think I'll ever get tired of it.

>> No.17846147

>>17846123
>Tomoyo
I actually hated that shit. Especially the ending. For her to give up on everything only to be a housewife and making bentos for a poorfag MC? What a bullshit.

>> No.17846152

>>17846123
>Fuko
Fuuko.

>> No.17846160

>>17846147
That's the whole point of her story though, she was the perfect student with a bright future but she was madly in love with MC, to the point that he forced her to pursue her career because he knew that was best for her

Tomoyo After can fuck right off though

>> No.17846169

>>17846147
The things that were important to her were her family and the people she cared about, not achievement. Remember her backstory about her parents trying to get divorced and her brother trying to kill himself to prevent it and that bringing all of them together. All the academic shit she was doing was just to do something for her brother, so once she was finished she it she didn't need to continue it. Hell, if you get her bad end where she loses the election she decides to drop out of school and live with Tomoya once he graduates. Have you played Tomoyo After?

>> No.17846175

>>17846160
>Tomoyo After can fuck right off though
Tomoyo After is great.

>> No.17846185

>>17846160
The conflict wasn't between her academics and Tomoya, but between her love for her family (the whole thing about saving the Sakura trees was for her brother) and her love for Tomoya. She couldn't choose one over the other, and her indecisiveness was going to make her fail what she was trying to do, so Tomoya had to choose for her.

>> No.17846196

>>17846152
Fūko

>> No.17846207

>>17846160
>>17846169
Still, fuck that ending. She is too great for such a pathetic MC. She could change the world but decided to make bentos for a plumber MC instead.

>> No.17846248

>>17846207
She doesn't want to do that shit, though, so why should she? Do people have to fulfill their full potential even if it makes them unhappy? If it makes you feel any better, in Tomoyo After Tomoya dies and she ends up a widow and works as something like an online grief counselor.

>> No.17846254

>>17846248
Anime cancer man

>> No.17846288

>>17846248
>Do people have to fulfill their full potential even if it makes them unhappy?
I doubt she would be very happy with a poorfag MC in the future as well. Let's be real, making bentos for your husband is not really a pinnacle of happiness.

>> No.17846291

>>17846288
She seems plenty happy in Tomoyo After.

>> No.17846293

>>17846288
Imfuckingplying.

>> No.17846311

>>17846291
She is still young in TA. Lets wait and see how happy she would in her 30s living in a single room with her pauper husband and five kids.

>> No.17846313

>>17846147
>>17846207
>>17846288
Are you going to complain about Kotomi too?

>> No.17846328

>>17846311
The last scene in the VN is them reuniting after death, you know? One of the themes in the game is that they share an eternal love which is able to transcend things like Tomoya getting amnesia and literally forgetting who she is.

>> No.17846335

>>17846328
Reads like a fucking fanfic

>> No.17846339

>>17846335
Fuck off, you haven't even read it.

>> No.17846347

>>17846313
>Are you going to complain about Kotomi too?
I don't like to bully mentally ill people so no.

>> No.17846759

>>17845547

They have a site up as cherrykissgames.com , their focus at the moment appears to be just Wild Romance though the press release they have on the site suggests that other Norn titles will follow

>Wild Romance is the first of Norn/Miel’s games to come out in English and Cherry Kiss will be working with this leading Japanese developer to publish their catalog of VN titles in English and other languages.

For the release itself they are making it widescreen and making it widescreen. They also indicate that they'll be offering it "at a discount" to people who purchased it on Steam, which I'm assume that means a paid DLC patch.

There doesn't seem to be much to go on about the company itself, the about page doesn't give anything useful. That said, Wild Romance itself looks to be roughly 3k on Steamspy as a cheap title, and I doubt that as a new company they will find much success off of Steam to make it worthwhile, especially with the new Steam policy that will hinder advertising the R18 patches. Although I suppose they could find sales up to being comparable to Steam if they work with all the usual R18 platforms, though they'll likely be extremely disappointed if their distribution is limited to their own site.

>> No.17846831

>>17845312
It's old but thanks. I hope there are at least at 80% now.

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>>17846759
>For the release itself they are making it widescreen and making it widescreen.
So how wide are we talking exactly?

>> No.17847474

https://twitter.com/chifuyu_chan/status/925671912298110976
frick

>> No.17847503

>>17847474
Harumade Kururu? I thought that was getting an official release.

>> No.17847513

>>17847503
Nursery Rhyme.
Apparently the text is translated but no hacker has offered to help him for years.
https://kururutl.wordpress.com/2015/07/16/call-for-loli-arms/

>> No.17847594

>>17847513
I just took a quick look, Nursery Rhyme uses BGI. BGI for the most part is solved, there's tools on vndb to do most of everything. Images, script tools, it should all be available there or elsewhere online. What even needs hacking?

>> No.17847621

>>17832095
Hello friend

>> No.17847624

>>17847594
No clue.
https://tlwiki.org/?title=Tools
This says the tools available are broken specifically for Nursery Rhyme. Don't know how true this is now since that info was added years ago.

>> No.17847649

>>17847513
If he asked around on IRC, it should be easy for him to find a hacker that can extract scripts and reinsert them. Does he expect the hackers to come to him?

>> No.17847675
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>>17847624
You're right, the tools don't appear to work, but it doesn't seem particularly hard to get text into the game. I'm really surprised no one wanted to help him.

>> No.17847688

>>17846082
No it isn't. There is one place which is literal pixel hunting and you would never even know what you're looking for is there without a walkthrough

>> No.17847702

Maybe a stupid question, but does the steam version of Little Busters have voice acting? I couldn't figure out from the store page

>> No.17847723

>>17847702
Yes it does.

>> No.17847827

>>17842859
I wonder if they can try itch.io

>> No.17848331

>>17847675
Go help him and save the future, based Doddler.

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>>17847702
You should have checked VNDB.

>> No.17848954

>>17847675
Really? Nobody, including you, wanted to help Aroduc, and he had a long established history. What hope did a nobody ever have?

>> No.17848982

>>17848954
There are a ton of people who could help him if he got on rizon or one of the many discord servers and asked around instead of just putting up a cry for help on his site that no one visits.

>> No.17848993

>>17848982
You truly have no idea how few hackers there are, and how unreliable they are.

>> No.17849062

>>17848993
Not him, but you don't exactly need to be some big hacker to use some tools to use to insert text for the more well documented engines. Being a nobody asking on your blog isn't going to get you anywhere, while asking in the right places (while showing you have a real translation) means you are far more likely to have someone link/point you in the right direction to some tools that work.
Of course it isn't 100% guaranteed, but sitting back hoping someone will come to you is a good way to let a project stagnate.

>> No.17849078 [DELETED] 

>>17849062
Fun fact: Asking around for help is what made Sekai Project aware of Baldr Sky and killed it.

>> No.17849083

>>17849062
Fun fact: Asking around for help is what made Sekai Project aware of Baldr Sky and killed it.

And nobody helped.

>> No.17849102

>>17849083
I fucking hate Sekai Project with a passion.
Why can't they just die already? Such a shitty business has no place existing. Fuck them.

>> No.17849104 [DELETED] 

>>17849083
Go to back to shitting on anime Aroduc. The guy only wants some tools to inset text not some perfect solution and someone has already proven it is possible.

>> No.17849109

>>17849062
This is naive bullshit and you know it.

>> No.17849110

>>17849104
Call me Aroduc more. It gets me rock hard.

>> No.17849115

>>17849109
Does using cmd make someone a big hacker nowadays?

>> No.17849149

>>17849109
>>17848993
Are you the guy translating Nursery Rhyme or what? Look, get on rizon and message CoffeeFlux. He said that he might be able to help you so long as your translation isn't MTL garbage.

Christ, how much spoonfeeding do you need?

>> No.17849236 [DELETED] 

can our autistic janitor please get our autistic mod to ban autistic doddler, ty

>> No.17849241

>>17849236
Stay mad.

>> No.17849256

>>17849149
You know how stupid your parents sound when they tell you how easy it is to get a job? You just need to take your resume and ask around and someone will hire you? And how completely ignorant, out of touch, and stupid that is?

Yeah.

>> No.17849272

>>17849256
You know how stupid it sounds when you stick a sign on your window that says you want a job and don't bother doing anything else? You expect someone to pass buy and hire you off that?

>> No.17849356

>>17849272
Let's all assume somebody hasn't done the obvious thing and it didn't work for the obvious reasons.

Instead of assuming the goodness and generosity of a population of irresponsible shitbags and trolls.

>> No.17849366

>>17849356
Exactly like your parents then.

>> No.17849401

>>17848331
After going over it, it looks like the script format is an older version of BGI. Instead of the standard virtual machine style they use now, it looks like the script format is binary with a list of operation ids followed by a number of parameters based on what operation is called. Since there's strings inlined within the binary, proper text insertion will require figuring out the parameter types for each operation so that those strings can be properly modified without breaking any jumps and references.

I'd say it would probably take about a week or so of good work to get everything figured out. If the translation is really as far along as you say, then I might be able to do it.

>> No.17849415

>>17849356
See >>17849149

He already gave you what you're looking for. Go away.

>> No.17849418

Any news on how to pirate Little Busters?

DRM impeding it?

>> No.17849429

>>17849418
The only DRM should be the steamAPI stuff and that can be bypassed with the usual codex cracks. Probably the only thing stopping it is no one uploaded it.

>> No.17849454

>>17849418
just buy it, it's cheap

>> No.17849459

>>17849401
What a saint.

>> No.17849462

https://www.lewdgamer.com/2017/11/03/rabi-ribi-ps4-psvita-release/

>Steam version is $18
>PS4 version is $40 and PSVita is $33.49

I thought Sekai would have issues on the console market, but this is just shooting yourself in the foot.

>> No.17849465

>>17849462
Retard tax. Not a VN though. >>>/v/

>> No.17849503

>>17849454
>$13
>cheap
No

>> No.17849516

>>17849503
$28 in Bongland, fuck that

>> No.17849520

>>17849401
>probably take about a week or so of good woork
>week of good work
>might be able to do it

So it won't be done, and it'll take six months.

>> No.17849533

>>17848954
I explained why I had troubles making tools for those projects, but you never listen. There's a difference between asking someone to do something they know versus something they don't understand. The Prism Ark project had me learn how to write RLE compression/decompression, how to compile and perform binary code patches to executable files, how to debug running executables. Maybe that's easy stuff but it's all new to me. I did this just so I could do what you asked of me. And it's done, I wrote your tools, I spent the time to learn just so I could do it for you, but apparently that doesn't matter. Somehow I'm ungrateful because I took too long to do it.

>> No.17849535

>>17849462
Market research. Nobody buys games on Steam, so you have to give them away there. But in a store, people will pay anything.

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>>17849533
I appreciate you, buddy. Even if other people don't.

>> No.17849620

https://dekirutranslations.wordpress.com/2017/11/02/lovely-x-cation-2-project-announcemeand-sansha-mendan-release-date/

Quof announced his LxC2 translation project and that the Sansha Mendan patch will release Dec 1st at the likely latest.

>> No.17849633

>>17849620
I told you he'd do LxC2.

>> No.17849897

LOLOL sekai didn't even bother showing up to their booth: https://twitter.com/ArmorBlitz/status/926534624934842368

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>>17849897
Fucking hell

>> No.17849919

>>17849897
>Nutaku is pointing it out.
Not sure if friendly banter or thinly veiled resentment.

>> No.17849940

>>17849897
They're just running late.

>> No.17850049

>>17849533
>tfw anon pretending to be Doddler argues with anon pretending to be Aroduc

>> No.17850058

>>17850049
Who are you quoting?

>> No.17850342

>>17849576
You can tell it's not Doddler because they're accusing someone of not listening.

>> No.17850635

tfw made all these people fight by just posting an update tweet I found

>> No.17850964

>>17850342
Doddler claiming he communicated while Aroduc ignored him would be Command and Conquer 2 levels of revisionist history.

>> No.17852206

>>17849897
>tfw even their booth appearances are delayed

>> No.17852491

Why didn't you tell me our savior George Henry Shaft released translations for TalesTune games?

https://georgehenryshaft.wordpress.com/2017/06/21/project-3-talestune-release/

How are they?

>> No.17853126

>>17828431

Order Number - 287501
Order Date - 2017-11-05 00:05:39

>> No.17853198

>>17852491
Not even worth critiquing because as with all GHS translations it's perfect.

>> No.17853229

>>17853198
I can't hate a guy who's dedicated enough to translate whole vns just to have an excuse to write giant textbooks of analyses.

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>>17853198
>>17853229
>There's also one last thing to say, of which instead I'm very much certain: Romeo Tanaka is a very religious person, specifically a Christian, and he writes from that standpoint.
>Cross Channel is itself a profoundly Christian story.

>VII Cross Channel as a Christian Story
>This Layer-VI interpretation can sound absurd, but is instead an inevitable conclusion. It's staring right at the reader when looking at the title: the word cross and the symbol of the cross are right there. The text reading prompt is also cross.

>VII.VII Layer-VII: The History of the World from Noah's Ark to Present Day
>In Cross Channel, Taichi and seven(?) other people survive the Wave of Denpa that wiped away mankind, together with all the animals they brought with (only the microorganisms inside of them).
>The parallel is direct and inescapable: the basic storyline of Cross Channel is based directly on the Biblical story of Noah and the Great Flood. And this, finally, allows to show what I consider the greatest troll of the story, greater than even not being sci-fi at all: being post-flood means the story is literally pre-apocalyptic, as the Book of Apocalypse would be yet to be written, or at the very least come true at that point in Biblical history.
>In fact, the Apocalypse - or the literal coming true of the prophecy within - is what Taichi is waiting for in the end.

Quotations from:
On Cross Channel, George Henry Shaft, 2013

How do you feel about this interpretation of Cross Channel? Do any of Romeo's other works suggest he writes from a Christian perspective?

>> No.17853343

>>17853328
I'd think something being a porn game is enough to disqualify it from being a Christian work, but what do I know.

>> No.17853361

>>17853343
I think fapping was ruled as a-okay a few decades back.

>> No.17853375

>>17853361
No? Even engaging in lustful thought is a sin.

>> No.17853385

>>17853375
Engaging in a lustful thought over someone else's wife is a sin.

>> No.17853395

>>17853385
That's incorrect. From a traditional theological perspective at least, the only proper mode of sexual expression is the normal relation between husband and wife. Engaging in anything other than that, in practice or in thought, is sin.

>> No.17853404

>>17853361
There's more than one christian school of thought.

>> No.17853406

>>17853404
Protestants don't matter.

>> No.17853409

>>17853343
While there is a lot of overlap between conservatism and Christianity, and indeed many Christian religious authorities have a negative view of anything remotely involving sexuality, the Bible never forbids fapping* or porn (though the latter simply wasn't applicable in the time from when the first parts of the Bible were written to the time the last parts of the Bible were written, so of course there's nothing about it in there).

* Historically, the Biblical story of Onan (Genesis 38) has been used to condemn fapping and even all non-procreational sexual activity, proper context shows that the morals there were "don't neglect your duty" and "just don't be an asshole in general". (The story is about Onan having to impregnate a certain woman due to important cultural reasons, but consciously pulling out and "spilling his seed" every time he had sex with her specifically to avoid impregnating her, resulting in God killing him.)

The Bible does however state (in various texts spread across the entire Bible) that you must take care not to be ruled by worldly desires and it condemns decadence. If you're addicted to porn or organizing orgies that's probably not okay by Christian standards, but I don't think there's really anything wrong with creating or consuming porn in a society where that's perfectly accepted.

>> No.17853419

>>17853406
Even among Protestants I don't think there are any (lower-case) orthodox churches that would allow pornography. That's far outside acceptability on almost a universal level.

>> No.17853426

>>17853409
You're thinking of the issue from the wrong angle, or incompletely. It isn't entirely about "what sexual activity does the Bible forbid," but it also contains the question of "what is the telos of sex," i.e. what is the end-goal of sex, or what is its purpose. In Christianity, its telos is procreation between husband and wife. Taking it and warping it and abusing it outside of its intended use and end is sinful. The human body is perceived as physical object containing meaning and an end to which it is to be directed.

>> No.17853446

>>17853426
>In Christianity, its telos is procreation between husband and wife.
I know this is the traditional Catholic view (is it still the official view?), but where in the Bible is this stated? On the contrary, the Biblical Song of Songs (and fuck the terribly forced allegorical interpretation some Christians assign to it) celebrates sexuality as a form of love between a guy and a girl.

>> No.17853468

>>17853446
>I know this is the traditional Catholic view (is it still the official view?)
I'm not a Catholic but as far as I know it is still applicable, at least on paper. This would be the reason they forbid birth control, for example.
>but where in the Bible is this stated?
Mark 10:6-8 But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh.
That is of course the means to "be fruitful and multiply." It is a reunification of the flesh separated at the creation of woman, who was made from man (I'm not advocating a literal interpretation here). They are again made one in the life-creating marriage covenant.
>On the contrary, the Biblical Song of Songs (and fuck the terribly forced allegorical interpretation some Christians assign to it) celebrates sexuality as a form of love between a guy and a girl.
I think the allegorical interpretation is the only one that makes sense, personally. The relationship depicted is not something that would be appropriate between a man and wife, e.g. the man allowing his wife to wander about the city and be beaten by guards (Song 5:6-7)

>> No.17853518

>>17853468
I'll add a bit more. Marriage also functions as a type, or a foreshadowing, or the mystical union of the elect (the bride) with Christ (the bridegroom), who form one body (note the continuance of symbolism), resulting in eternal life. As such there is no marriage after death as it is fulfilled in its antitype. There is a cohesive symbolic meaning of sex and marriage that covers the entire biblical narrative.

>> No.17853522

>>17853518
>or the mystical union
meant "of the mystical union"

>> No.17853803

>>17853468
>This would be the reason they forbid birth control, for example.
Oh, for some reason I thought they had changed their policy on birth control some years back, but it appears I was mistaken; looking it up, it's still strictly forbidden in Catholicism.

>Mark 10:6-8 But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh.
>That is of course the means to "be fruitful and multiply."
I don't see how one necessarily follows from the other. The only thing it says is 'a guy and a girl will get together and have sex' (as described in Genesis 2) and that Jesus's teaching is that for this reason they are bound together by this (and, to provide context and continue on what Jesus was saying, that therefore married people should not divorce).

Again, I argue that this is more about being a couple than about procreation. From a pragmatic viewpoint, procreation would actually be easier without monogamy (impregnating non-pregnant women would be faster than waiting for 9 months to impregnate the same woman again), but Jesus insists married couples stick together.

(Also, I don't consider Paul to be nearly as authoritative as Jesus, but Paul said it's best not to have sex at all (which directly contradicts 'be fruitful and multiply') but if you would otherwise burn with passion you should marry, and that husband and wife should not refrain from having sex (1 Corinthians 7:1-9).)

Now, there is a command to be fruitful and multiply in Genesis 1:28:
>God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
However, that was a command to the very first humans, and I think by this point we've multiplied enough to "fill the earth and subdue it" and "rule over [...] every living creature".

>> No.17853829

Anyone seen a link floating around for Little Busters (steam)?

>> No.17853855

>>17853829
here
http://store.steampowered.com/app/635940/Little_Busters_English_Edition/

>> No.17853870

>>17853468
>I think the allegorical interpretation is the only one that makes sense, personally. The relationship depicted is not something that would be appropriate between a man and wife, e.g. the man allowing his wife to wander about the city and be beaten by guards (Song 5:6-7)

>The relationship depicted is not something that would be appropriate between a man and wife
Is it? From what I can tell it appears to be an appropriate relationship between a young couple in the culture of that time.

>the man allowing his wife to wander about the city and be beaten by guards (Song 5:6-7)
This happened in a dream. See the first words of Song 5:2:
>I slept but my heart was awake.

>I think the allegorical interpretation is the only one that makes sense, personally.
Well, for one thing, the Song of Songs is not presented as the cryptic words of a prophet (as is the case with, for example, Isaiah), but just as it is: a song about love. In this way, it existed for at least 200 years (but possibly even centuries longer), passed on as a song (and not some prophecy or anything like it), before anything resembling the Christian Church existed. The Jewish interpretation about the Song of Songs being about the relationship between God and Israel at least makes some sense in that that was at least a thing when the song was created. But the impression I get from Christians applying an allegorical interpretation to the Song of Songs is that they would rather deny an entire Biblical book than accept that the Bible would say anything positive about sexuality.

>> No.17853873

Didn't know about this new TL of Cross Channel. How is it compared to Amaterasu's, knowing the latter is utter shit?

>> No.17853880

>>17853873
Utter shit of a different variety.

>> No.17853886

>>17853880
Oh boi, I guess Japanese is still the only viable way to enjoy it then

>> No.17853889

>>17853886
As it is of every eroge originally in Japanese.

>> No.17853957

>>17853855
No, not that one. Asking about free dl link.

>> No.17854102

>>17853803
>However, that was a command to the very first humans, and I think by this point we've multiplied enough to "fill the earth and subdue it" and "rule over [...] every living creature".

To be pedantic, many traditionally unlivable climates like the various types of deserts are still unpopulated even though we probably have the tech to make them viable at some point, and we haven't started colonizing under the sea yet.

I personally think that the increase the number part is still necessary independent of whether or not we have actually fully subdued the Earth though. Even though one is necessary for the other to happen, we should still do the first for its own sake.

>> No.17854119

Holy shit Princess X is trash. I heard it was bad but I wasn't expecting this. There are tons of monster girl harems VN's out there. Why the fuck did JAST pick up this one? The fandisk too. Do they not understand that Oyakado's manga made them popular in the west? Luxury's Maou .. Namaiki would have been a perfect fit. This company really wants to fail.

>> No.17854151

>>17854119
I'm pretty sure everyone that read it is wondering the same thing. They're also charging $35 for it which is pretty bonkers, this is something I'd pick up out of a bargain bin after a night of drinking for $2.50

>> No.17854153

>>17854119
It's JAST after all

>> No.17854377

>>17854119
I think that is part of the education for running publishing firms. Step one is to identify what is popular. Step two is give the opposite.

>> No.17854445

>>17853803
>I don't see how one necessarily follows from the other. The only thing it says is 'a guy and a girl will get together and have sex' (as described in Genesis 2) and that Jesus's teaching is that for this reason they are bound together by this (and, to provide context and continue on what Jesus was saying, that therefore married people should not divorce).
You're missing the point. It says that God created them male and female, and that that "for this reason" they will be joined together in one flesh. It is an aspect of their created identity. The reasoning is based in God's creation of them, not natural inclination or whatever it may be. It is their telos or end.
>Again, I argue that this is more about being a couple than about procreation. From a pragmatic viewpoint, procreation would actually be easier without monogamy (impregnating non-pregnant women would be faster than waiting for 9 months to impregnate the same woman again), but Jesus insists married couples stick together.
Because as I noted later, marriage functions as a type (as in typology). It is prefiguration of the union with Christ.
>(Also, I don't consider Paul to be nearly as authoritative as Jesus, but Paul said it's best not to have sex at all (which directly contradicts 'be fruitful and multiply') but if you would otherwise burn with passion you should marry, and that husband and wife should not refrain from having sex (1 Corinthians 7:1-9).)
Paul isn't issuing a command, but directing people to act according to their gifts, one of which is celibacy. Anyway, I was interested in discussing the theological aspect of this, not trying to take the texts out of their religious context and apply some natural interpretation to them, so that's all I really have to say.

>> No.17854636

>Higurashi Hou - chapter 5 released. chapters 6-8 through TLC+Editing, answer arcs to be released within a year and Rei arcs started

So can I expect the next answer arcs soon? Maybe less than 6 months?
I've played the one that comes after Meakashi but It's just not the same without the VA. Also no CGs

>> No.17855132

>>17854119
>Why the fuck did JAST pick up this one?

They've been after the parent company (B-Eye Communications) for a while so they can get Black CYC titles.

Apparently they nearly got CYC titles years ago but they were having engine trouble. Seems like this is part of that.

Hopefully Princess X was just a cheap test so they can move to the better stuff.

>> No.17855302

>>17855132
only a decade after gss and extravaganza

>> No.17855355

>>17855132
Please

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>> No.17855379

CHAOS;CHILD PC WHERE?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.17856210
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17856210

Is anyone else buying the Eiyuu Senki Collector's Edition?
I'm not sure if 90 USD is too much for what the Japanese colletor's box was sold for.

>> No.17856271

>>17856210

I've got it on order. I like JASTs limited/collectors editions. Plus it comes with a Steam key you could either sell or give to a friend.

>> No.17856277

>>17856271
That would be a very nice use of the key but I also like showing off my steam games also, my 2.5k usd computer doesn't have a disc reader so I don't really have a use for the discs.

>> No.17856290

>>17856277
Buy an external disc drive and stop abusing the spoiler function.

>> No.17856619

>>17855379
Well after last patch on my vita Chaos;Child is like 99.99% translated so I guess they are working on applying translation to @chan, other websites, various images, star wars opening crawl etc. which takes so much time, the only thing that is not translated and could been better in official release is credits song translation, well song is translated on youtube with subs anyway also they didn't translate Serika Onoe last words at the end of each route

>> No.17856671

>Kiminozo - Picked up
News when?

>> No.17856969

New thread when?

>> No.17857019

>>17856969
>>17856475

>> No.17857026

>>17856969
How do people not know how to use the catalog in 2017? The new thread is always up at about the same time every week with the exception of big convention weeks.

>> No.17857035

>>17857026
I would have sworn that the thread wasn't there when I looked at the catalog, but evidently I fucked up. I won't even try to explain how, because I can't - so please accept my apologies.
If it means anything, I did sage my own post. I've been on boards since before they had the ability to handle images, so it's not as if I have an excuse for it.

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>>17857035
Just ctrl+f status or put it in the search box. Saves trying to skim through the lot and skipping over it.

>> No.17857106

LB upload when reeeeee

>> No.17857879

>>17855379
you can ask on the coz discord

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