/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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>14 years of my life

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>>17707613
I wonder how many originalfags are still posting or at least lurking

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>>17707613
11 or 12 years of mine, god damn fuck

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>>17707613
Who are you quoting?
GET THE FUCK OUT

sage

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>>17707613
Ah, yes, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, Pepe and 2B, those beloved icons of 4chan's culture.

Seriously, if you're gonna make an image celebrating the site's anniversary you should include stuff older than 2016 at least

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Absolute shit.

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>>17707713
There's CDi link in the corner. Sucks how the older memes are getting love but these redditors are getting exactly what they want: garbage

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How do I get rid of those dumb hats?

I don't even celebrate my own birthday, why should I care about site that has confined me for 8 fucking years?

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>>17707853
Careful with that edge newfriend

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>>17707693
been here since 2007, i guess it doesn't count though

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>>17707870
No it doesn't, it's less about you being "old" and more about everyone else (i.e. people who joined after 2007-8) being new. At least that's how I feel

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>>17707613
garbage fucking image. 4chan has more culture than the trash in the past year. surprised Yotsuba is even in it. >>17707713 hit it right. and no, shoving laughingelfman in a corner isn't good enough

everything turns to trash. especially /jp/ in the last year. the amount of non-otaku generals moved here from /a/ is multiplying at an alarming rate and it brings its idiotic crossboarders with them

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>>17707613
This is the 4chan Hiro wanted.

2008 Newfag reporting in

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I can hardly believe I've stayed here longer than moot did.

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I think the point of these images is to represent the year it was, not 4chan as a whole. So we can look at it in a few years and see what was relevant

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>>17707613
Hiro clearly doesn't know shit about the culture of this site nor cares about it, well it's no wonder since this place to him is just a juicy data mine, can't blame him.

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>>17708539

i can think of nothing more natural than that faggot selling

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>>17708635
*out

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>>17708603
quot for truth

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Don't joke around anon there's no way anybody would stick around a dump like this that long, r-right?

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>>17707776
I'm not sure why he's even there. He hasn't been relevant in a long time.

I don't want these new age users to touch him and ruin him too...

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This picture is like a big ball of contagious phlegm spit on the corpse of the former 4chan I remember.

You can't even say we're any better than the alternatives now. What we talk about is no different from what you'd find on reddit or tumblr or twitter. We're just more depressed and bitter

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I glad we could share this moment together, /jp/

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>>17708603
it's the exact opposite. it's never been a "year in review" image. always had a ton of old shit in it and one or two new memes.

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>>17708787
Exactly. Internet culture is different now; everything is more integrated. I'm dreading the day when all these big name sites are ultimately true mirrors of each other. We're almost there in a sense and have been for a long time so it's bound to happen eventually.

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>>17708754
I guess for the lulz. I miss YTP anyway.

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>>17708887
>>17708754
I've seen people posting Hotel Mario content around a lot lately off-site, sometimes pairing it up with Wand of Gamelon. Who knows why but it's probably just included in the image from those being suddenly brought back rather than anything else. It's a bit depressing.

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>>17708863
We already are. Most of present-day 4chan operates within a copy or derivative of /v/ rage culture. This has also bled into most MMOs and large parts of Twitter and Reddit. Tumblr is just a mutation of the worst parts of Something Awful. Everything else is Facebook with more autism.

What's left are the small futaba spin-offs and isolated pre-2.0 communities that were overlooked. Places such as Uboachan are like those lost Amazonian tribes that have zero contact with the outside world and live in a stone age civilization. The integration you mentioned has not only homogeneized cultures but sucked them into real-world bullshit and slapfighting. For all of its shut even old /a/ would have had a good laugh over the awful live action Death Note film. But modern /v/p*l/ culture drives anons to seek out grievances as evidence of a world out to get us. So instead we have the threads dominated by teenagers legitimately angry at a B-list movie for casting some black guy as L. Who cares? Apparently we all have to care in 2017 because Hollywood Jewish lizard men are making us racemix by brainwashing us with bad cash grab adaptations or whatever. Even when you remove politics the culture still demands that we be mad at *something* so anyone who wants to just consume and enjoy entertainment is a cuck and should kill themselves.

This should be an argument for getting the fuck off these communities and possibly most of the 2.0 internet, but we all know I won't permit myself to leave.

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>>17708910
Sad how nobody will remember the good old days of YTP where you just liked them. Now, it's just MLG crap that sucks. The internet has been tainted ever since Facebook and reddit came

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>>17707713
>Seriously, if you're gonna make an image celebrating the site's anniversary you should include stuff older than 2016 at least

Like V for vendetta mask, afro-and-suit blackup, spengbub, and Tom DeLay!

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>>17707713
They seem to be more symbolic of the current year, Nier was incredibly hyped here, and it's the first birthday after the election day.

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>>17708988
The internet is serious business.

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>>17708998
You mean since Mal/ANN/Ebaums/Gaia came, right?

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>>17708998
snooping as usual I see

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>>17709088

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>>17709088
To people who live their lives on it, I guess it really is.

I remember reading a research report somewhere that said the psycho-chemical response that people get from replies or likes to a post is identical to what you get from a shot of alcohol. For people who only socialize online I can honestly see people literally becoming addicted to (You)s. So yeah, really is serious business when the dominant presence in an online community is a group of junkies.

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>>17709108
lmao is that really weev
Isn't he living in self-imposed exile in separatist-held Ukraine or something

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>>17709120

Yeah that pic is ancient. God bless him.

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>>17709131
Prison destroyed him honestly. The weev I knew of ten years ago wouldn't have given a shirt about the jews or whatever

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>>17708988
Heck even uboachan got a slight drop in quality earlier this year, ~8 or so newfags popped up, you can notice which is which by their obvious posting styles, some guy decided to make shit ton of retrospective and rant threads which planted some seeds of ANGERY hate for some of the content the whole website is revolved around (which is already dead so most of the posts are off-topic or in their /r9k/ equivalent

it's healing itself but its still scarred

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>>17708183
She's growing up. She can't play with the toys of her youth forever.

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You guys should come hang out on /qa/ sometime. You'll need to use filters for stubborn trolls, however, so stop by the filters thread there as well.

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>>17709268
/qa/ has about as much to do with 4chan's archaic internet culture as /pol/ does.

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4taba is pretty much dead too, except maybe in their /prog/ but I don't really go there
I miss 4chan /prog/, and fear /f/ will be next

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>>17708988
It's saddening seeing /v/-style rage being so predominate around the site and elsewhere. /v/ culture seeping out in such a way was eventually going to happen but I wish a more positive attitude could have seeped out instead. It can be so hard interacting with people who feel as if they need to be angry over something at any given time. I find myself straight up not bothering with conversations in some places because there's just no point. you know? /ck/ used to be nice but I guess at some point /p*l/ decided to move in and that was that. Now it's just near-constant low quality, angry posting. /jp/ is no longer how it used to be either, and I've seen people encourage /v/-style behavior here. Saying it's time to move on from old behaviors and whatnot. I will never understand encouraging destructive behavior...

I understand what you mean by you won't permit yourself to leave. I'm in the same situation. Yes, nostalgia is partly to blame for wishing things were how they used to be, and maybe my memory is also to blame so I can't remember the full picture clearly, but I can't help but feel that the general hostility you see nowadays just wasn't present back pre-2013. There was hostility of course but it wasn't like how it is now.

I'm sick of being nearly always surrounded by angry people in online communities, but I can't leave. Not now.

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>>17708988
>modern /v/p*l/ culture drives anons to seek out grievances as evidence of a world out to get us. So instead we have the threads dominated by teenagers legitimately angry at a B-list movie for casting some black guy as L. Who cares? Apparently we all have to care in 2017 because Hollywood Jewish lizard men are making us racemix by brainwashing us with bad cash grab adaptations or whatever.
It's because those people lack action, yet still have ambitions;they have desperate desire for change, for better tomorrow though no bravery or will to pursue.
What has changed is a RL pop culture's course from futurological-utopian to grim-anti-utopian, which causes mass anxiety(the reason of such change is a topic of another discussion)
>Even when you remove politics the culture still demands that we be mad at *something*
It have been like this for over 6000 years ,m8

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>>17709350
>but I can't help but feel that the general hostility you see nowadays just wasn't present back pre-2013. There was hostility of course but it wasn't like how it is now.
No, this is true. People were using phrases like "epic win!" and "ownage" in regular fashion. People were earnest about what they liked instead of just liking things ironically or hating things. Other than obvious stupid things like children arguing about what consoles they like to play, most of the focus on the internet was how cool everything is, not how much everything sucks.

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4chan is shit. Only other boards I like are /an/ and /e/.

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>>17707613
With the sheer amount of boards these days, especially the ones Hiro created, and the large amount of content cycled through on a weekly, even daily basis, and the large influx of newfag outsiders, it's become impossible to identify common trends in culture endemic to 4chan.

You can only talk about board culture and that's it. Site-wide culture is almost now wholly a matter of pure speculation.

If a mass decentralization of the world wide web ever occurs, then a "new" 4chan will be allowed to be born. Mostly what the other chans are missing is a userbase, and more specifically non-retarded userbases with interesting things to say. Incentive for the better users of 4chan to leave will allow these places to thrive.

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>>17709350
/jp/ used to be home to some of the most autistic arguments to be found anywhere on 4chan. Yoshinoya should be a bloody place. Where people get this notion that /jp/ used to be cakes and rainbows is beyond me.

>>17709363
>People were using phrases like "epic win!" and "ownage" in regular fashion.
I don't know where you were at the time but it sure as fuck wasn't /jp/. Maybe if you switch the dates to pre-2008 instead of pre-2013 you'd have a point.

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>>17707713
Honestly, were you expecting something better?

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>>17709389
It's hard to explain. Yes there was shitposting, yes there were arguments, etc but that's not to say the mellowness was completely absent. Perhaps mellow is too strong of a word to use? But what was absent was the style of "anger" you would find elsewhere. The shitposting style here was different than the style you would find on different boards. You could participate in discussions and the number of people who would call you a faggot or whatever would be dramatically lower than how it would be if you said the exact same thing on a different board.

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>>17707713
2B makes sense though. Her ass is posted on the whole site.

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>>17707613
it has benn 10 years here for me,and i know most of you think the place is going to hell,is somehow getting worse than it alredy was,if such a thing is possibly,sometimes i feel the same,still,i`m glad i get to know this place and i`m glad i`m still here.for another 14 years /jp/

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>>17709363
The term "unironically" is one of the most infuriating things to me. People say stuff like "I unironically like [thing]" and I just can't fathom the purpose of qualifying it like that. Why can't you just say "I like [thing]"? I don't know how you could bring back the old sincerity on these boards, much less the internet has a whole, when so many people are just too young to have ever experienced it.

>>17709290
I never said it did.

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>>17709540
I could also have objected that /qa/ is a garbage board whose culture is like /jp/'s after it's been filtered through an increasingly shitty series of shitposting archives and blogging spinoffs, but I thought you were saying something relevant to what people had been discussing.

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>>17707713
Yeah, I really didn't like how everything in that image was super seasonal.

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>>17709540
The idea that something can be cringeworthy is truly one of the worst widespread memes. "You have to act in a certain way. You can only like certain things approved by people whom you will never interact with personally. Say certain things in a certain manner. If you don't, you will be berated". I understand that "bullying" is sometimes "necessary" for some people to grow and become a better person, but it's all grown to be too much now. I didn't care for those sparkledogs back in the day but fuck me if those deviantart kids weren't having a good time. They weren't harming anyone. People posting loolz!1 and xD back in the day were usually showing true, genuine emotions. They were having fun. Is there truly anything better than that? Having a good time. But then acting like that was looked down upon. Liking certain thing was bad. Positivity was bad. I guess people retaliated by saying "Oh, I like this thing. ... Ironically", but all that turned into was "-- which then makes it okay for me to like this. But I couldn't genuinely like it. That would just be embarrassing". I really hate it. Just like what you want and have fun. I feel like a lot of people are going to end up regretting not just letting themselves loose in their younger years by truly enjoying what they want.

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>>17709596
I think most of it is out of fear of vulnerability. If you don't say what you truly enjoy then no one can make fun of you for it. The internet hate machine somehow became literal and you can't be a tough guy by showing things like appreciation or genuine happiness.

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>>17708988

If you had a black guy announced to cast for the role of L back in 2006-09, the waves of OC images you'd have of people cracking jokes at the idea would be insane.

Some people probably would be angry, but I think for the most part everyone would be laughing their asses off and going niggy niggy niggy niggy niggy in every thread for all eternity.

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>>17709389
Yes, pre-2008 is what I am referring to. 4chan is 14 years old. You could even push it further back to 2006.

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>>17709268
/qa/ is too far in the other direction from generals to "no actual discussion ever happens here". It's like people pining for a time on /jp/ with tripfag liveblogging and the same shitposts repeated every single day, but worse. I'll go there to throw some shit into an abyss but there has to be some kind of happy medium, because sometimes condensing threads like Touhou Gameplay is good.

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>>17709634
You could have L eating watermelon and purple drank instead of cake and tea, or him getting killed by Light writing him in the Death Note in a drive-by. Nowadays racist humor is simply spouting WE. Seriously, that's the problem with 4chan today, it's not that it's edgy, it's that it's fucking unfunny

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>>17708998
Honestly I was rewatching some old YTP's, the ones made by deepercut, and although it brought back some nostalgia I had to admit they're fucking retarded and unfunny to anyone a mental age above 16

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>>17709664
Deepercutt is kinda bad desu. He tanked the Skooks episode he collaborated on. Meanwhile I think the other Skooks episodes by Orpheus are still pretty funny.

YTP is about finding good content in a pile of shit, of which there is a lot.

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>>17709672
Yeah, the last skooks was pretty shit.
I feel like some people get humour, and others just expound imitative drivel-- I even admit I am probably of the latter.

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>>17708988
4chan ALWAYS hated anime and video game live actions. ALWAYS, I can never recall 4chan poking fun at a video game or anime adaptions instead of down right hating it and thinking it shits over the source. Name one 4chan made some sort of shitty meme out of over the years.

I guarantee we would hate it back then as we did now. You are the one projecting political bullshit onto it because it upsets you.

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>>17709634
>>17709659
That was the point I wanted to make, it's not that 4chan being racist is ruining shit. It's that 2017 4chan takes it seriously. You aren't going to want others to have fun and joke around if you think you're in some great posting crusade for western civilization. No one as a result is really interested in bothering to make good original jokes.

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>>17709659
Not to mention that the memes nowadays seem to be forced to stay alive for much longer than what would be considered a natural life expectancy. Pepe is stale, wojak is stale, I'd say a good 80% of memes posted nowadays are fucking old and stale. The people posting them are far too attached and defensive over them as well. I'm guessing it's new, younger users who are always pushing for them. It's what is viewed as acceptable 4chan content to post, right? And if you're going to try and fit in then that's what you should post instead of creating new content that could potentially be ridiculed, and if someone attacks you over it then it's equally as acceptable to attack them right back instead of sitting back and wondering why they would want you to stop posting whatever.

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>>17709742
You're confusing hate with ridicule. 2009 4chan expresses its displeasure by just being angry. It's like what others have said in this thread, people don't even bother trying to be creative, it just gets expressed as WE WUZ etc.

I connect it to /p*l/ because it's at its worst when they get buttblasted about anything.

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>>17709767
To add to this, all of the old taboos have long since been destroyed. Dubs checking (KEK), forcing memes and talking about 4chan elsewhere online is now accepted and encouraged. These rules worked to try and limit low-quality posts and attention whoring.

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>>17709770
I was part of /pol/ and they get into fits over anything. I get that they hate political correctness and hate SJW's who overrreact to everything, but they've became those people as well.

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>>17709350
>/ck/ used to be nice but I guess at some point /p*l/ decided to move in and that was that.
Jesus, how can you even be constantly mad about food

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>>17709770
I swear I'm not /pol/ but the reason for all the politically motivated criticism you see on 4chan relating to media these days is obviously due to the fact that our political landscape has dramatically changed in the last few years. There are serious ethnic population shifts happening right now. Trump is a reaction to that. It's gonna be talked about regardless of where you are on the political spectrum.

In regards to /v/ rage culture spreading and people generally having negative reactions to things, I think that's also just a reflection of the generational mood. People are more cynical these days - and why wouldn't they be? A lot of young internet users are in a shitty position when it comes to finding dignified work and eventually buying a home. It's hard not to turn into a nitpicky, joyless prick when you're in those circumstances. You're getting truckloads new teenagers soaked in that culture coming to 4chan every year

I'm probably just projecting though. I don't know for sure.

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>>17709767
People have to keep clinging to old memes because whenever someone tries to create a new meme people strangle it in the cradle.

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>>17709634
>going niggy niggy niggy niggy niggy in every thread
I don't think old 4chan would have done that. More like what >>17709659 said probably. Spamming 'nigger' and stuff all the time seems more of a modern 4chan thing from /v/pol/ types. They seem to think because you can say nigger and stuff as much as you want means the point was to say nigger and stuff all the time to be as edgy as possible. Same with people who think 4chan was always some sort of epic troll and shitpost factory or that place that's always raiding other sites and posting muddy dicks. Old 4chan probably would have called black L 'N' instead of going "fucking niggers in my anime fucking nigger note", or some jokes about Light vs Dark.

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>>17709363
>>17709648
I miss old 4chan humor.

Speaking of the last two things, /pol/ is really weird in that the actual board still has traces of that kind of old 4chan ironic racist humor. It's only when people spout /pol/ shit outside of /pol/ that it becomes unfunny trash. I don't know if it's /v/ or /r9k/ or /x/ to blame, but it is weird as fuck. It's like obnoxious people who spam ohayous or Chinese Mokou reaction images on other boards. Or like /jp/ compared to people who pretend to be /jp/ on /bant/ and /qa/.

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>>17709817
The worst it could be it's vegan vs vegetarian vs non-vegetarian autism and shitflinging.
I haven't been in /ck/ for a long time. I hope it's not that bad.

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>>17709389
>Where people get this notion that /jp/ used to be cakes and rainbows is beyond me.
We're not musing on /jp/, we're talking about the website as a whole. Especially before the resurgence of new boards in like 2008 it was much more mellow.

As far as /jp/ is concerned it went from mindless shitposting every day and tripfag blogs / NEET threads to what you see now. It's honestly more relaxed now but keeps the xenophobia which is good. I wish we didn't keep getting threads that are deleted on /a/ because they're shit that aren't actually otaku culture related.

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>>17709842
/bant/ has also stolen our shit as well

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>>17709596
>"You have to act in a certain way. You can only like certain things approved by people whom you will never interact with personally. Say certain things in a certain manner. If you don't, you will be berated"
Welcome to /jp/. Newfags are scared to post here, or post in a way that isn't "acceptable". I've seen people use the greentext format without the meme arrows as if they took "who quote" too seriously. People on other boards talk about how mean /jp/ is, and it's a different sort of mean than you find on something like /a/. When someone calls you a retard on /a/ you generally brush it off and continue shitposting, but on /jp/ it will pierce your heart because the reply is usually thought out and you will understand exactly why what you said was retarded and why you shouldn't say it again. And that's why the quoted nature of /jp/ isn't necessarily bad, because it reinforces quality. And then after a while, you realise that this shame culture is just a big joke and you relax, but by then you've already been taught not to be a shithead.

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>>17709875
Or you could just get your shit thread moved from /a/ by the mods and not do any of that shit

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>>17709376
>If a mass decentralization of the world wide web ever occurs,
It probably won't absent some massively disruptive invention or event. Most users are satisfied enough with the current monopolies that they aren't going to invest the effort to switch to an unproven, inconvenient alternative.

Same reason we're all using qwerty keyboards when dvorak has been proven to be a more efficient alternative. Switching costs too much for most people, which in turn makes switching more inconvenient for those that do want to switch since the lack of a large user base makes setting up support systems and bringing down costs harder.

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>>17709817
>>17709843
It's strange. Nothing you would expect on /ck/ of all places.
>>/ck/thread/S9452474#p9452963
Shit like this and other low quality posts have been rather common for a while now. I don't really bother going to /ck/ anymore.

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>>17709842
>Or like /jp/ compared to people who pretend to be /jp/ on /bant/ and /qa/.
That's not pretending to be /jp/, althrough there are actually people on /qa/ that invested in imageboards that much to do so. It is more like common interests, and the latter two are random boards so you can post "/jp/ content", being otaku media such as Anime and Touhou there as well without the need to sustain discussion like on this on-topic board.

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>>17709892
I'd blame /pol/ for this, but I'm also blaming those making political threads on purpose just to get a rise out of them. It makes boards like /sp/ and /mu/ and /co/ almost unbearable when politics are brought up. They just infest the entire board and you get caught up

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>>17709596
Part of this is the widespread identity issue.

Everything now is tied to your real name and face on facebook/twitter/whatever. Them acting "out of line" online now can and will follow them in their everyday life, and the amount of employers turning people away because of facebook profiles just climbs.

I wish your post could be stickied across all boards.

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>>17709898
Exactly. I know why /bant/ has touhou and that's because you can do more free stuff, like the fishe. It's a strange mix where we get to see what others can do with the art. But when they start to take /jp/ creations and use them just for their board, that's when I cross the line

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I'm also a 2007 fag, it's always felt to me like walking into a movie somewhere near the climax. It looks pretty cool, and you're having a fun time, but you really don't have any idea what's going on, and as the movie continues on towards the end you feel like missing out on the beginning cheapened the overall experience, and all the fun you had after you walked in the room starts to turn sour. Now the movie is almost over.

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>>17709875
No, I don't think that's the point that guy was making. It goes beyond a simple "lurk more" mentality which is trying to encourage a board culture, and becomes actively berating someone for genuinely enjoying something, leading them to either not talk about it at all or cloak it in so much irony that no one can tell what someone genuinely likes. There's also a difference between trying to fix someone's posting when they come into your community and berating younger kids for drawing what they want on deviant art and shit.

I think the guy you're responding to is more about things like "Cringe Compilations" and shit that have become more and more popular. No one wants to act genuine on the internet anymore because everyone is too ashamed or scared their mistakes are going to be put on a permanent record and attached to their name or appearance. This mentality extends even to anonymous imageboards like this.

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I always forget 4chan's birthday. FUCK FUCK FUCK!

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>>17709664
too bad most of durhamrockerZ's YTP got taken down. His shit was pretty good after rewatching some of them.

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>>17709910
Cringe compilations killed the creative mind.

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>>17709875
>took "who quote" too seriously
That saying is the worst act of shitposters (seriously, it started in like 2010 shitpost era) that people actually started taking seriously. It's like if people take "reddit spacing" seriously 5 years from now and you aren't allowed to have gaps in your post.

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>>17709900
Ultimately the old addage of "those who get their fun by acting like idiots will eventually draw in actual idiots who believe they're in good company". Calling people niggers and trying to make fun of everyone eventually brought in actual people who are so angry about that shit all the time that they literally cannot stop talking about it, which fosters that kind of culture.

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>>17709909
It's like the end is near for this board. I'd say the end came with /mlp/ and /pol/, as both were containment boards, but still leak over into others.

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>>17709634
>If you had a black guy announced to cast for the role of L back in 2006-09, the waves of OC images you'd have of people cracking jokes at the idea would be insane.
It is still happening now, just smaller scale.

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>>17709905
I'm still bitter when I see Momiji be associated with /pol/-related garbage. She did nothing to deserve this. They scooped her out of our arms and ruined her. Maybe it's a bit silly to get heated over something like this, to be possessive over something like this, but I can't help it. It's weird seeing the "rember happy day" being posted around off-site. It's weird seeing the word normie so frequently used everywhere now. I can still remember the screenshot of some Facebook user using it in a strange context when it started growing in popularity and usage. More and more of "our" things are being taken from us and I wish it would stop. I'm not sure if I'm making any sense but I don't want my fond memories of just a few hundred, if that, of us dicking around years ago to be... I suppose ruined.

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>>17707693
Lurking since I left SA in 2003.

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>>17709875
>When someone calls you a retard on /a/ you generally brush it off and continue shitposting, but on /jp/ it will pierce your heart
That sounds like you're the one having that problem, retard.

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>>17709979
>Momiji
And nothing of value was lost.
I thought "awoo" was a forced /v/ meme anyway
>>17709926
"who quote" and "reddit spacing" are secret quality control memes. They force users to write out their posts in full, complete sentences without resorting to point-form, slowing down the users' composition rate and forcing them to evaluate their posts more thoroughly.
They usually become more original with their responses as well, as few non-pasta paragraphs can be worked out as templates

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>>17709979
I'm suprised they took her over clownpiss, who literally had the flag as a piece of clothing. I'm not saying it's completely bad, as not every /pol/ tard is a fucking idiot, but it hit her hard. [s4s] also ruined kogasa

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>>17709892
All the /pol/ posting outside of /pol/ is more of a consequence of (you) culture, I think. The core /pol/ posters don't do this shit as much, it's the newfags who just get a rise out of getting replies and being angry all the time. Also kind of explains >>17709842

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>>17710008
"Reddit spacing" is fucking retarded though. People generally do it just to separate thoughts or paragraphs.

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>>17709909
I hate to admit it, but at least it's not as bad as showing up near the end. I always heard about 4chan, but never went here when I was younger. I came to /jp/in 2014 and lurked for a year before I started posting and getting involved. I genuinely liked the Touhou discussion on the board, fumos, fan content, all of it.
>>17709979
>>17710010
I don't let other boards sour the experience. Momiji and Kogasa are still cute to me, even if other people use them for dumb shit.

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>>17710010
>[s4s] also ruined kogasa
EHHHHHHHHH?

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>>17709910
Yeah, halfway through the post I realised it wasn't entirely relevant but wanted to post it anyway.
>actively berating someone for genuinely enjoying something
Can you give some examples? I hardly see this sort of thing on anonymous forums. The only thing I can think of are the few F/GO threads on /jp/, and even then nobody pretends to only play it ironically. Or maybe listening to certain popular denpa artists, yeah people will talk shit about those who listen to momobako but her fans won't say that they only like her ironically. I used to be in some discord servers and that is the only place where I saw people be afraid to be honest about what they like. Nobody was ever honest and it felt like everyone was suffocating, probably because they had names attached to them. I don't see how people can be so insecure when posting anonymously.

>>17710001
I speak from past experience and from what I see now.

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>>17710027
I always wonder where people draw the line on when to get mad at Touhous showing up in other boards. Momiji is the biggest extreme and I don't like it either, because it's just nothing even remotely close to Touhou and a character that had nothing to itself is now associated with that shit.

But everyone is sperging out and scared of the Chinese Mokou, which I don't get. The artist genuinely loves Mokou and Kaguya, and Mokou hasn't really changed in popularity at all. I don't see people posting her as anything different than Chen honkposting, which was widespread for a while but doesn't really hurt Chen.

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>>17710001
I think you might be misinterpreting his post. Let me put it this way. Why should I care if someone on /v/ calls me a faggot? They call anyone and everyone that for any reason. That term isn't thrown here in that same style so if someone uses it, there's probably a good reason as to why it was used.

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Even the /vg/ 2hu general is better

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>>17710058
Not even close to being true.

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>>17710042
Chinese mokou is easily spreadable due to how wide the reactions are. I could just spam the hellout of them on /sp/ if my team is winning/losing, and everyone is still clueless to who she is.

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>>17710042
Yeah I don't get people complaining about Chinese Mokou either. Momiji is understandable because she's now widely associated with MAGA hats and there was really no reason for it to be her but Chinese Mokous are great reaction pictures in their own right.

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/jp/ ruined Yukari for me

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>>17710058
It's like /jp/ condensed in one general but without any /jp/ culture and just generic 2hu worships any weebs on 4chan do.

At least on /jp/ I could just stay on gameplay thread to discuss gameplay without any of these low-quality posting on sight.

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>>17710042
From what I read of the thread, people are scared of things getting popular and/or becoming a "meme".
>>17710058
/vg/ touhou threads are similar to the touhou threads /v/ occasionally gets, but with even more waifu posting and shit posting. At least you get to have all sorts of touhou or otaku threads on /jp/. Individual characters get their own threads, the occasional /e/ /c/ or /u/ threads are basically touhou threads with a theme to post around, and fumo is the softest thread on /jp/.

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>>17710081
Momiji was popular before. /f/ made her noticeable with wan! wan! wan!, but when /pol/ took her, it just warped her. I didn't even know where she was from but had knowledge of touhou. Well, she's lost her traction but still gets used along with iowa.

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>>17710092
/c/ threads are always comfy though. There's no fighting, just comfy posting

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Pictured: /jp/ - Otaku Culture?

>>17709350
It was sad about what happened to /ck/. Can't have a decent Townsend thread anymore without it devolving into cuckoldry, just because every few episodes he has a huge black guy as a guest. I don't see what makes it funny for people to still be talking about it like that.

>>17710008
who quote turned me into a better poster. But I don't really mind it when used on less serious boards.

Reddit spacing is just cancer. Leaving a blank space leads to superior text aesthetics.

>>17710010
>/pol/ ruined momiji
>[s4s] ruined kogasa
First of all thanks for respecting the brackets. Second, I don't think it would be great to hold this sentiment seriously. Kogasa meme is mostly dead on the esfores, and the momiji posting on /pol/ is mostly limited to the Trump generals (wew lad) and even in that case they just see her as cute wolf girl and not "cute racist wolf girl". I hope I'm getting through what I mean. I have never seen momiji pictures that have shit like "gas the kikes" or something, she just has the funny red hat.

>>17710001
But he is right. /jp/ bullying hurts, but it is for the best.
>>17710083
Why?

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If this movie you call 4chan does come to an end soon, I'm glad I was able to spend time with you all. A lot of people think negatively of 4chan but I have so many fond memories of this place. It's not as if it could have been avoided, you know? I essentially grew up here. But I'm so happy to have spent time with everyone here. We've had our ups and downs but it's been so much fun.

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>>17710091
>>17710092
So you've never been there
Good to know.

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>>17710103
But they did get their images a bit tainted. Momiji was a good laugh for a while, but others also got their fair share of maga hats. I have no problem with it, but they just forgot who it was. And kogasa wasn't bad, but it just related her to EHHHH?

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Thread theme

https://youtu.be/xa89oOG_T9A

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>>17710103
>>17710023
I think paragraph breaks are fine, but there genuinely was a trend of spacing point-form lines out like

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For the sake of relaying information in point-form.

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>>17709828
I'm aware of all that, but 4chan (to an extent) used to be a place where the standard response was "who cares"? No one here can actually change any of these things, so why bother being constantly mad about it? Whether global warming or financial collapse or drow elf invasion destroys us all, it doesn't matter in the long run since it'll all collapse eventually. I think 4chan would be better off without all of the crusading bull and just laughs at it all

>>17709842
I don't know if you've spent a lot of time on /p*l/ but there's no ironic racism, they take it at face value and will drone on and on about it. The core community is heavily invested in IQ crime statistics autism and even THAT is starting to bleed into the other boards. If you state a desire for lewd brown skin girls on /a/ there's a good chance someone will sincerely try and start an argument on eugenics over your taste in Fate/Stay H art

If they were just playing it up for laffs I could tolerate it but the complete humorless seriousness of it is annoying and depressing, knowing how far it's spread

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>>17710098
I honestly think they associate Momiji as a "anime" representation, since they kept talking about trump making anime great again. You can tell the ones promoting it were being "ironic", but it drew in the people who thought they were being real about it.
>>17710111
I've been to both /v/ and /vg/. Those threads are fighting to stay alive on fast boards, so their quality is always a coin toss.
>>17710112
EHHH? pasta is silly and I laughed the first time I read it. [s4s] reposted it a lot, but recently they seemed to have watered it down.

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>>17710099
/c/ is inherently pure, because cute girls are inherently pure. If everything turns to absolute shit, /c/ will be the very last one, because deep down everyone likes cute girls.

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>>17710124
Momiji is forgotten as a anime because the ohayo, but at least they know her name and even use some fanart. It's not wrong to use them. It's when you start taking them and slandering the image.

>>17710125
/c/ and /w/ will be the last boards to die out. Both are pure, have no real problems, and often times stay comfy.

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>>17710110
It's like this with everything, it all comes to an end and it feels the same every time. It's the same feeling when you finish a really good VN or when a pet dies, it sucks but it's just a natural consequence of that good thing happening in the first place.

I've been on 4chan for 6 years now though I don't feel much less of a newfag than when I first started. 4chan has very much shaped my life, it got me into anime/otaku culture and it got me into tech. It also shaped how I think and how I approach life in general. I think I'd be a much different person if I never got into 4chan.

I don't think 4chan is quite dead yet but it's definitely changed a lot in those short 6 years I've been here. I'm very proud to have been part of all the culture I was part of, the memes I witnessed etc.

I've actually been "away" from 4chan for quite a while now (still posting occasionally but mostly just on /jp/ and not being on the site every day) and recently coming back.

I think this anon >>17710122 is exactly right, 4chan has falled into the trap of being all about serious business. I have quite a list of things I think 4chan went wrong with (wrong way of moderating, dividing things between boards too much etc) but they all boil down to that at their core.

I pretty much fell into the same trap myself, started taking politics and stuff way too seriously when it's really not actually an important thing. I think I'm gonna and reconnect with my older "taking it easy" sentiment and go back to that old laid-back, ironic, taking-the-piss 4chan culture, at least for myself.

Sorry for the ramble but you guys are basically the only ones I could say this to that would understand.

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>>17710111
I admit it was a long time since I checked the general, but I still think having a general about series that doesn't constantly produce new content is not good, since in the long gap between new contents there'll be nothing to discuss and the thread will turn into low-quality circlejerk. I've seen many constant threads definitely went that road.
I don't know how you guys deal with it to consider it different, since Touhou produce a game twice a year at best and few manga chapters per month.

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>>17708988
>Most of present-day 4chan operates within a copy or derivative of /v/ rage culture
This so fucking much. Less than a decade ago everything had this nice white and black coloration when it came to that sort of /v/ shit behavior across the boards but now everything is so fucking gray and dull.

>>17709979
Also this. The character and/or meme appropriation from other boards, which have nothing to do with our shit, is utter fucking disgusting. I couldn't care less about what they use her for but just seeing her as some sort of bastardized flag-bearer of their normalfag crusade is saddening. I think some 'weeb' crossboarders wanted to get into that 'epic' political shitstorm from the past two years but you have to be a monster to let one of our cute girlsr be raped by the normalfag masses. Just look at that poor fucking frog. Pepe went from feels good/sad to whatever the fuck is that abortion we have right now. Why would you desire this for Momiji or any other 2D character? I think this how parents must feel when they discover that their daughter got pregnant during high school/middle school.

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>>17710149
Sorry if this post looks ugly, you can tell I haven't written long-form 4chan posts in a while

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>>17710149
nice reddit spacing, cuck.

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>>17710149
You know what, how do we spread the loving message of "take it easy you know" to all the other boards? If this were something we could do realistically, maybe, just maybe... we could reverse all the damage done over the years.

>>17710158
Ironic shitposting is sti(ry

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>>17710153
I've used Cirno/remilia for the islanders and met, and I've seen a couple of anons make a momiji just for philadelphia teams as well. There's nothing wrong with using them for sports. There's a problem when you just use them for whatever the fuck /r9k/ and /pol/ use them for. You are spot on with Pepe, and same can be applied for wojack (/biz/ actually made wojak funny though). You can have that good crossboard stuff, just not with /pol/

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>>17710098
>>17710103
I think it's more a matter of the whole ohayo gozaimasu gimmick getting killed off through guilt by association. MAGA awoo momiji was spammed soooo much last year that people became wary of posting anything that even looked like it for fear of having their shit hijacked. Combined with the dino posting meant that one of my favourite memes died.

It was going to die off but I hate how it happened. Seeing some e-celeb slut wore wearing yoga leggings screenprinted with shifty momiji ohayo edits was like seeing someone dig up the fresh corpse of a family member and desecrate it.

Also, who u quot and spoiler abuse did force me to think more about my writing so I agree on that point.

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>>17710134
It could have been ohayo posting that got /pol/ to use it. Just like with any political party, they relied on getting the rest of 4chan to agree with their platform, which meant using anime girls (/a/) and momiji (/jp/), as well as use /v/ rage and /b/ humor to rile 4chan users up. In a weird way, you can say it worked for them, even if it burned a bunch of other boards in the process.

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>>17710163
Most people just don't want to take it easy, outrage is addicting. Also, you can't really take it easy yourself if you're worried about other people not taking it easy.
All you can really do is take it easy for yourself and let things happen as they are while realising that all good things must eventually come to an end and that's exactly what allows us to appreciate them fully.

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>>17710165
personally as someone who used to browse /sp/ i got done with it when everyone just lazily started photoshopping a team hat or jersey on images. it's just threads filled with the same template wojaks and pepes over and over again. Sport has so many natural reaction images and team-related imagery that it's awful to just see people posting the same shit over and over again. Using Touhous as images is going to happen everywhere since it's such a popular series and 4chan still has a bunch of weeb culture, but it always bugged me when people just put a hat on it to push for their own interests.

Templateposting ruined all creativity on that board, and honestly, most boards.

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>>17710169
It definitely made /b/ even more unstable, considering they were already at high pressure, and /v/ into more politics, even when the gaming industry is infested with politics sadly.

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>>17710163
Unfortunately while I think it's too late now, I agree. It's always good to spread positivity. It's nice seeing other people saying "take it easy" or "let's take it slowly" elsewhere. It's nice knowing I'm in good company when I see those things posted.

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>>17710175
It gets boring when you just see it as /r9k/ but with sports. Back with the momijis and philadelphia, they were various and had many different versions used, which I liked.

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>>17710165
It's "wojak".

And opening a pink /biz/ catalog is absolutely hilarious.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84fOsLdqDAM

Still a very powerful song for me and the lyrics are very applicable to what's being said in the thread right now

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>>17710168
>>17710103
To add to your comments, the who are you quoting meme also changed me for the better. It wasn't through that meme specifically but I remember reading a post where a person said "Are you really incapable of storytelling in a format which isn't greentexting?", and it made me think about just how badly that can affect your writing. Who are you quoting helped me remember that post.

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>>17710186
Shit like this is incredible. I don't like wojaks that much, but it's great to see these fools invest when it's that high

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>>17710189
Will we ever win a elite cup?

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>>17710197
When will /jp/ put YJSNPI into the team?

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>>17710177
Thats the consequence that /pol/, the mods, and the rest of us have to live with. We can't return to 2015 4chan, nor can we return to 2005 4chan. All we have now is what 2016 4chan set up for 2017, and how it all played out so far. The 15 year anniversary is next year so I hope you all make it even more fun.
>>17710191
As much as greentext stories from /b/ are hilarious, I do agree that it deteriorates anyone's ability to write something with actual thought put behind it.
>>17710195
Wow. Wojak had a hard life.

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>>17710195
Probably the funniest thing on 4chan recently.

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>>17710197
Personally winning Autumn last year was more than I ever expected from /jp/. I'm happy just getting to watch them play. Kind of miss the Babbies since they were comfy as fuck and had a lot of nice slow boards with good aesthetics, but I guess they won't be that comfy with /mlp/ /a/ and /sp/ down there now.

I think the roster got a bit worse the most recent cup unfortunately, but we'll see where it goes next time. Too many Marisas and we should have voted for Yajuu.

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>>17710212
/pol/ itself is a consequence of /b/, as with /mlp/ as well. /b/ was THE reason why this shit began, why newfags came along, why our culture came, and mostly anything. It's a mess of the retards that couldn't keep themselves contained. Plus /soc/ came along and added more degenerates into the pile.

>>17710209
Next polling, which should be in the winter. I'm glad they advanced, but losing to /lit/ sucks

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Is this the bi-monthly meta thread? How long 'till janman cleans this one up?

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>>17710110
>I essentially grew up here
Me too, anon. Back when I was underage in 2008, you guys were my only tomodachis when I had zero friends (I'm still extremely low on friends but that's another story). And I don't mean that in a "I'm so ronery, thanks for keeping me company" kind of way. I truly learned a lot (mostly stupid stuff) and had lots of fun lurking or talking with you faggots about anime and other stuff. I never got into forums or other type of communities at all so 4chan was a great place for me even with its frantic and crass attitude. In the end, if 4chan croaks for good, I will remember fondly this place and you faggots.

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>>17710231
This one is a bit more wistful and musing on the state of 4chan as a whole due to the 14th anniversary and how people act, rather than being the stock-standard "OMG I HATE GENERALS GO TO /qa/ GUYS BAN ALL GENERAL THREADS DONT CONDENSE ANYTHING" shit that just gets repeated over and over again in usual meta threads

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>>17710224
Autumn was a great run. Having 4 points in that group, beating /w/ from autism, coming back from near death with bird scoring with no time left, and get out clinching our spot in the final with that last minute goal. If we beat /vp/ in winter, it would've been even better.

Hopefully this winter gives us a good group, and the roster is fixed up. Really would want to see less marisa and maybe chen bike because the blender would be perfect

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>>17710230
I always thought of /b/ as Moot's testing ground for new boards. Even if some of those boards failed and became /b/ generals, at least that board shaped what 4chan became.
>>17710231
Just go back to /qa/ already

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>>17710186
It's "feels guy"
Wojak is a poster on Krautchan.net/int/

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>>17710255
/b/ is the chaotic neutral anyway. Had they not been such a crazy place, we would've been stuck with this place being reddit.

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>>17710189
Ah, now you've gone and done it...

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>>17710258
It would have stayed as /a/, with maybe some off topic boards. Hell I could imagine /jp/ existing as the off topic "otaku culture" board if /b/ didn't exist. Moot wanted an American 2ch alternative, but with a culture that wasn't like Something Awful.

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2006/2007 here.

No regrets.
4chins is more interesting than most stuff.

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>>17710256
Yes, and it is named after him iirc.

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>>17710278
Sorry to correct you
2ch.net is a textboard. The biggest alternative for it in the west is 4-ch.net
2chan.net is an imageboard, for which 4chan was created a western alternative

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>>17710189
This song gets me every time.
Happy birthday 4chan. Remember to always take it easy~!

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>>17710288
Sorry about that, I got carried away.

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>>17709932
>/mlp/
I haven't seen ponies outside that place in ages.
Frankly I almost miss it.

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>>17710302
I've seen them time to time on /vp/ and /mu/, but they're a dying bunch. Even if they're degenerates, they know how to piss off people

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>>17709932
>>17710302
/mlp/ made it look like containment boards worked. To this day some people still believe it.

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>>17710169
>>17710177
I think it really happened in reverse: a lot of the current /v/ culture has been in existence for a decade but we can really see it spread throughout 4chan and the broader web to around 2013/14. The rise of tumblr SJW autism gave them a proper enemy to hate and gamergate made /v/ culture virulent. So you wound up with anti-SJWs inadvertently spreading the always mad, always looking for shit to get offended over mentality the same way trade caravans spread the plague from Asia to Europe on the silk road. From there it quickly got picked up by /pol/ where it infected conversations about everything else.

>>17710181
The whole Web is slowly homogenizing, these are tectonic plate shifts that will happen on their own due mainly to technological changes.

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>>17710299
It's kind of sad that what 4chan started out as would be totally bullied and laughed off the site right now.

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>>17710318
/v/ started it, but it also stems back to, what do you know, /b/. Politics are a nasty thing anyway. I'm suprised how people thought that we were apparently radical leftists, but the pendulum shifted hard

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>>17710327
They'd also laugh at us because of most anons wanting to fuck a guy and having a lgbt board

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>>17710299
>because japanese say "Ni-Chan" instead of "Two-Chan"
Goddammit, I never thought about it that way. I always thought it was TWO-chan. Now the name of 2chan makes perfect sense. Yes, I'm, pretty dumb.

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>>17710278
>Moot wanted an American 2ch alternative, but with a culture that wasn't like Something Awful.
What's really weird is seeing Something Awful/FYAD shitposting irony culture become incredibly left-wing and profitable for a lot of its early adopters.

Kind of scares me that of all the people in the world to gain influence in the world, it's a bunch of goons from 2005 who thought that Shmorky was the height of comedy.

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>>17710195
At least I invested all my NEET dollars when ETH was $10

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>>17710302
they bleed out into /v/ sometimes, but so does every board. It's sad to see /v/ putting up with so much shit sometimes, just because everyone else knows them as spiteful idiots, who get angry at everything. Although I go to /g/ and I see spill over from other boards there too.

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/jp/ is so shitty now but I've got nowhere else to go ;_;

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>>17710369
/jp/ is one of the few boards that still feels original.

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So, what I'm gathering from this thread is that /v/ and /v/ermin are the source of all evil. Is that correct? If that's the case, then, video games were a mistake.

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>>17710379
That sounds about right.

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>>17710351
This is the FedEx arrow of anime

>>17710336
Following from what I said in >>17710353, people just naturally started to segregate themselves. SA slowly became more and more left-wing as time went on (Vilerat getting shot by al-Qaeda didn't help, ofc) and many of the conservatives and libertarians (who weren't that welcome in SA to begin with) migrated over. The creation of tumblr IIRC siphoned off most of our remaining liberal or left-libertarian users and the pendulum did shift as time went on. When I was 17 and first using 4chan I remember liberals mostly being angry for the right reasons - Iraq, stupid fights over gay marriage, and the bank collapse. Kids who grew up not knowing the stupidity of the Bush era can only really react to the stupidity of the Obama era. So in six years we'll probably have newfriends wandering in spouting left-wing autism I guess.

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>>17710379
/v/ just has one of the worst reputations here. They did most of the politics shit and started with gamergate, which eventually went towards /pol/ and fucked up three massive boards.

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>>17710373
>/jp/ is one of the few boards that still feels original

>>17699522
>>17645738
>>17673109
>>17680319
>>17605044
>>17701603
>>17707071
>>17687812
>>17707600
>>17611452
>>17686413
>>17635711
>>17694495
>>17708191
>>17687579
>>17580014

What /jp/ are you lurking?

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>>17710373
No it doesn't.

The 1st page is like 80% generals and 3dpd

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>>17710256
I don't remember any Bernd calling it "feels guy". Always just "that feel".
And IIRC, he took it from a polish image board, where it was called "warm face". (As an opposite to the, then popular, "cool face").

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>>17710379
But you're playing video games too, anon.

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>>17710404
No, anon please.

At least aizu-wakamatsu is still...

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>>17710413
Cool face, huh? That takes me back.

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>>17710404
I blame the new influx of normalfag mods for this. Why the fuck is the JAV thread here and not in one of the NSFW porn boards? The usuals there have claimed multiple times that they hate "weeb" shit and only come to this board for their fix of JAV sluts.

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>>17710379
Yes.

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>>17710404
Nothing wrong with visual novels.

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>>17710379
you could say a combination of /v/ and /b/, but that depends on how you view the past three years essentially.
>>17710404
>>17710405
As much as I would like to send generals off to /s/, /vg/, /cgl/, or /trv/, they are allowed here. If there were an idol board or something, then half of them would instantly disappear. As for visual novels, vocaloid, dolls, and the games, they should stay.

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>>17710168
dino LoLK is still very much alive at 東方裏 in futaba. Can't post though.
>>17710174
I'm going to take it easy (you know) about everything other than other people taking it easy.
>>17710231
Please let us keep this thread meido.

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>>17710404
Rhythm games and visual novels are pretty classic /jp/. Same with Japan photography. I don't know why you included those other than just being mad about people condensing threads into Generals. I don't care about Elona or those types of games but they're related here too.

The rest are cancer though. Why the fuck are idols and JAV here? Same with DJT and Seiyuu.

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>>17710464
Generals hinder the culture by clogging the board, bringing unwanted people, making the board faster aka lower quality and killing OC.

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>>17710480
You are right. Generals can congest the flow of a proper board culture, unless you are /vg/.

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>>17710480
I've always seen generals as an inevitable side effect of people throwing tantrums when something they don't like has more than one thread. Unfortunately for some things they're necessary or they'll get shitposted to hell and back.

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>>17710464
>they are allowed here

But if one wish to return /jp/ back to when every user is united and build a proper board culture, he must find a way to change it.

Unfortunately, I'm not one of these people.

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>>17710098
That image is very fun through
I wonder how ZUN feels like that one of his lesser relevant characters now is associate with a low effort posting frog in quest to build a dictatorship or whatever

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>>17710480
/jp/ is slower than it was a few years ago though.

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>>17710480
Generals slow down the board by reducing thread turnover and are where people congregate to discuss topics that aren't popular enough to sustain multiple threads.

The turnover rate in /jp/ is two days plus some. This is slower than it ever was before. It used to be something like twelve or eighteen hours.

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>>17710501
Are /jp/sies literally dying? ;_;

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>>17710501
It'll be like that until the entire board is nothing but variants of JAV generals and 3 template threads lingering on page 10

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>>17710496
ZUN would be suprised how one of his lesser characters is a political mover. He'd also be suprised how famous Cirno is in the west, as hispachan made her their queen, similarly to /bant/

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>>17710480
The problem with that is the fact they pertain to otaku culture, but not the part most of us like. Idols are popular in Japan, and some Americans bought into that idea. The problem is that there is no other sfw place to contain them. I can at least be thankful they stick to one thread instead of making a bunch of "say something nice about my wife" threads.

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>>17710501
>>17710507
A few years ago, /jp/ was just wall to wall shitposting. That was where the speed came from. People flooding dumb shit all the time.

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>>17710496
Didn't someone cosplay as MAGA momiji during the election and ask ZUN a question about Trump or whatever when he came here for AnimeExpo (I think it was AE)

If that really did happen then Alternative Facts takes on a whole new light. ZUN's always preferred subtle disses

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>>17710122
>If you state a desire for lewd brown skin girls on /a/ there's a good chance someone will sincerely try and start an argument on eugenics over your taste in Fate/Stay H art
On /pol/ if you say you hate brown girls, you'll successfully start a brown girl porn thread. I will admit I haven't browsed it regularly for a few months though.

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>>17710508
Yeah.
More of us are being forces to get jobs though. I literally have one week of NEETdom left, gotta start looking for jobs after next weekend.

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>>17710134

The fucktard mod from /a/ is fucking up /c/ with his intentionally shitty thread moves. Pushing multiple good /c/ threads off the board so he can dump shitposters and nsfw threads like a first month /b/tard.

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>>17710548
They've been moving threads they don't like off to multiple other boards that make no sense.

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>>17710548
And that's what the killer is: the mods. They'll fuck up everything. You can't have that leniency with posting and especially with the large number of boards, you're bound to have a thread go to /b/ or /bant/ just because of stuff.

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>>17710516
Cirno is not only relevant to these boards through
Anonymous standard name on iichan.hk is Сырно and /b/'s logo is made of 2 ice crystals
You can see general fondness on other foreign speaking imageboards as well.

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>>17710529
Back when /jp/ was wall to wall shitposting the turnover rate was six hours. You were still lucky to break 24 hours even in early /jp/.

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>>17710532
Yeah that was talked about in the AX thread last year. I don't think ZUN really understood what was going on.
>>17710560
Cirno is truly the strongest 9 number fairy on internet forums

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>>17710560
She's loved just from all those things like IOYSS, her theme, the hair, etc. Besides reimu, you can instantly recognize her as a 2hu, and the design is simple. That's why she gets that praise and attention

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~day one~ user here. i don't know why i still bother.

>>17710401
Anonymous boards are kind of by nature a left-libertarian concept, though. But you're right that Tumblr culture--and by that I mean the concept of having several ambiguously-linked untraceable identities that can be spun up at will, selective anonymity via an endless array of masks rather than the *ch* idea of everyone in the same mask, the usage rather than any assumption about the users--siphoned off most of that, and the left's internal disputes over identity vs. humanism killed the rest.

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>>17710537
I read this post and decided to head on over there since I haven't gone there in months as well.

Maybe I just went in at the wrong time, but I'm pretty sure /p*l/ is a bona fide honeypot at this point. I saw multiple posters recommending that people bring firearms to protests, advocate for the murder of named individuals, and so on. I wonder how Hiro and 4chan administration handles all of the inevitable subpoenas for poster information without giving the FBI a backdoor. I remember Lowtax shutting down Laissez's Fair because the users made so many death threats, having to comply with the warrants impeded his day-to-day operations.

Either way, I think at this point it's just angry as shoes and people who enjoy wasting time riling them up with ebony porn or whatever

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>>17710480
While in general some of these threads can be shit, I would argue heavily that there's no reason to not condense threads that are on-topic but don't need endless amounts of threads like Touhou Gameplay, Rhythm Games, or Fumo. For gameplay, would you have someone start a new thread every single time they want to mention one small aspect about one of the games, or asking for advice on a game? I think that's a waste and would just result in a bunch of small 5 post threads.

Personally I like that the board is slower. It feels like you can actually discuss things here outside of the designated /e/ boobhu dumps or whatever. A few years ago it was just wall to wall shitposting where you couldn't really discuss anything.

I think the problem is moreso the content of the threads being shit that isn't really fitting like JAV threads.

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>>17710643
JAV threads are concerning, as they really push what is /jp/. They could just as easily be put on /gif/ or even /soc/, but they just slide.

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>>17707613
>9 years of mine

Where did we go so wrong?

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>>17710444
>Why the fuck is the JAV thread here and not in one of the NSFW porn boards?

People on those threads always say stuff like "we can't have discussions on the NSFW boards" or "we want to post SFW NSFW content" and retarded things like that. In JAV case, they need to realize /t/ exists. They would be so much happier there.

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>>17710404
What's wrong with Elona?(>>17707600) It's the most /jp/ thing on this board outside of touhou. It's a doujin game. It's heavily steeped in otaku culture. Its current incarnation is a continuing work of fans modding it after the creator was finished with it. Recently they've started to make stupid /vg/ style OP images but other than that I can't see why it would be considered undesirable in any way.

But then you have the untranslated VN and vocaloid ones there, so I guess you irrationally hate any sort of general regardless of the purpose.

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>>17710614
It's probably being honeypotted, but that doesn't mean they're not actually that dumb. i have a younger cousin who i know is anon and doesn't know i am, standard downwardly-mobile, dreams-shattered-as-a-teen majority male type that's filled this sort of site since when it was NIFTY-Serve, and... yeah. MAGA chants at the TV during last summer's Olympics tier, as half the room stared at him wondering what the fuck and the other half stared trying to feign confusion.

funny part is that he adores his new roommate, who's a literal communist, and tends to agree with him on every question that he hasn't already been primed to have a talking point for. so perhaps it's less straight-up stupidity and more just an inchoate grasp for identity.

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>>17710601
I was referring more to the culture of the people that use tumblr. It's mostly a mirror of /p*l/: grievance-seeking, straightforward anger and rage at the world, posting as warfare mentality, and the tendency to assume large reaching conspiracies are afoot. The only real difference is that they fight themselves more and I'm pretty sure the average tumblr user is female and in middle or high school.

Having a site architecture that facilities juggling multiple pseudonyms does amplify that though. The reblog and dashboard combined also encourages people to create echo chambers and filter into hundreds of bickering tribes.

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>>17710718
/t/ is actually great for JAV, and a lot of other things. Pantsu is bringing back all of the lost JAV torrents, so they really have every kind of JAV at their disposal there. Plus it keeps that board from being completely dead outside of regular porn, anime, and video game torrents.

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>>17710508
>Are /jp/sies literally dying? ;_;
Early /jp/ was full of suicidal posters, after all.

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>>17710548
They're fucking /jp/ up as well by deleting shit that has been sitting on /a/ for years and the refugees just poke around until they find a board where the mods don't care and claim it as their "new home" i.e. DJT and Seiyuu

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>>17710523
>I can at least be thankful they stick to one thread instead of making a bunch of "say something nice about my wife" threads.
There are like 10 idol threads. If there really was only one, there would not be a problem. However, as they keep having waifu wars, they are going to keep making more and more threads.

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>>17710782
I'm saying that about individual idols having threads, not just groups. Basically not condensing their threads.

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>>17710740
>>17710601

Why is tumblr known as this sort of thing? I'm speaking as someone who only ever sees it associated with porn artists.

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>>17710736
I hear you. My younger brother was going down the same road, although his boat was drifting more towards white nationalism. Physically cringed when I heard him say "not an argument" while arguing with my dad.

If I wasn't around to intervene in his brainwashing in the summer he'd probably be the type to paint pepe on hockey gear and get arrested in a street brawl with some antifa beanpole. He doesn't connect with people in real life and would be an easy recruit for any organization offering a prepackaged identity and fraternity.

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>>17710804
That is what I'm saying. They keep having disagreements about subgoups of major groups and making threads for those. It'll get down to just individuals eventually. There should just be one idol thread, but the way its going there will be one for every akb sub group and then threads for old members because the other threads only talk about new ones.

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>>17710806
>I'm speaking as someone who only ever sees it associated with porn artists
I'm the same way. It's silly to see people fall into the same trap that the rest of the internet does with 4chan or imageboards in general.

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>>17710806
>>17710836
Almost every tag has retarded discourse, moral policing, and "x character is trans" headcanons.

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>>17710817
The problem with the idol threads is how complex they are all organized. That complexity is built for fan discussion that could almost take up a board on it's own if given the resources. The issue with that is if the idol industry starts to taper off, that could slow down the board to /po/ levels of slow.

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>>17707693
>>17709988
I've been here since 2003 as well.

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>>17710836
>>17710848
>>17710806
Basically:
>Permiting multiple accounts allows people to silo off different aspects of their life into separate conversations
>Social interaction based entirely around content sharing
>Humour is based on social observations and extreme self-deprecation
>As mentioned before, dashboard encourages echo chambers
>Comment tree system means that replies are often reincorporated into the original content as an addition rather than only as feedback on a static piece of art
>Perception that tumblr is for social rejects and is a place of acceptance and comradery
In sum, it's a website centered around sharing content among small clusters of like-minded, anonymous peers within an environment that attracts people with self-esteem issues seeking refuge from the normies of Facebook and Instagram. It's a powder keg that can ignite the moment any drama disturbs the fragile balance of the echo chamber. The site's heavy emphasis on and facilitation of the expression of identities means that tumblr is more attractive to the left-leaning, which tends to value the preservation of personal identity over assimilation into a much larger group or national identity.
(I'm paraphrasing "The Secret Lives of Tumblr Teens" by E. Reeve, which was published in The New Republic.)

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I cannot stand people posting memes you'd normally see on other boards like /b/, /tv/, /pol/ and whatever other non-otaku/anime boards, and the more time passes by the more people tend to do this on any other boards. This is the reason I stopped browsing /a/ 2 years ago or so. Originally people would tell them to stop, mods would act, but nowadays they're silent, it's just become a norm to post /tv/-tier memes completely unrelated to a board culture.

I haven't seen this specifically happening here on /jp/ yet but I know the day it does I'm out for good. I wonder if many others feel like me or if I'm going to get shunned for saying this? I just want a bubble where I can share my otaku stuff with others without having to see or deal any of that real life trash. Pic related prime example of the sort of thing that makes me sick. I wouldn't bat an eye seeing it over /g/ as I don't think I'd have any right to get upset, but over boards like /a/ or /jp/ that's a completely different story.

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>>17710913
I find it pretty bizarre that commenting on something is heavily looked down upon there, and that if you want to comment on something then you must do it in the tags.

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>>17710945
I think you're right to be dejected by the state of it all, but at the same time it was always going to happen. Unless you put up hard barriers to keep off-topic content out, you'll eventually see people drift from board to board and pick up things from each, scattering what they find as they revisit other boards. This continues until you see a site-wide homogenization of the culture, with active users on all boards sharing the same set of pictures, audio, text and cultural references. /jp/''s reputation as a hostile board means that it's happening at a slower pace here, but it'll happen eventually. If you want to slow it down further remember to always reply to greenest with "who u quot" and remind new friends to not misuse the spoiler function.

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>>17710945
I see /jp/ occasionally making a few bane posts here and there.
>>17710951
The funny thing is, /b/ used that against them when tumblr raided /b/ one time. They posted gore in popular tags and caused site wide panic on tumblr.

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>>17710848
doesn't sound much different from 4chan desu. "gay black? i think you mean nigger faggot" is its own helmet-special flavor of moral policing, and rule 63 is literally a local meme.

where it differs, where it's weaker, is that it still allows topical authorities to be dumb based on their accumulated cred. a fushiana-type system may have been ideal at one point, but...

>>17710851
it's not gonna die per se, the problem is that it's too core to ~otaku~ identity to be hived out and not make /jp/ a shell that would have to be about japan instead. (idols not 100% linked, see kpop or jkt)

>>17710913
that interpretation is very american-liberal, though. very assuming that no one can be further left than them, and they're safe to stake out the capitalist center-right. you could just as easily, and imo more accurately, say that the left prefers a more comprehensive group of their own choosing, while the right likes inborn individualistic exclusivity of some sort (no exception for capitalists, "inherited money" is still a club you're in at birth)

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>>17710951
The site architecture makes dogpiling on a bad or disliked content really easy. For those unfamiliar, tumblr replies can be formatted in a way similar to usenet replies. Like so:

original post
>reply to original post
>>reply to the reply to original post

It's ridiculously easy for this to spin out of control and embarrass the OP, since as the comment tree spreads other jack offs will inevitably want to jump in with their two cents. Commenting in the tags is a lot less user friendly and is considered polite, kind of like how when sage was visible using it here was considered the polite thing to do in order to avoid drawing unnecessary attention to a thread.

Beyond that, artistic communities are over represented on tumblr, and reblogging is just the accepted way of boosting someone else's work. Commenting is more of a waste of time since you're sticking your head out and demanding special treatment. This is something that's prevalent in any artistic community, not just tumblr: doing anything that might rock the boat is the quickest way to lose friends.

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>>17710974
Yeah I guess I should have said waned off. The idol industry won't completely die, more like new groups will eventually take over and do things different. As for /jp/, I figure a /i/dol board would help, but that means the board is then subject to shitposting in it's early life.

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>>17710974
for the last one, in terms of otaku issues and linking it to this board, the left-wing "we'll hide a message in their cartoons" tack was always "your parents can't help you, you have to make your own family".

>>17711007
/i/ deserves to exist with how expansionist we are, but it would really really hurt /jp/'s place as the home for things japanese nerds like.

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>>17710974
>say that the left prefers a more comprehensive group of their own choosing,
Yeah, that's partly what I mean: Individual identity as determined by what groups you identify with rather than groups you are deemed to belong to by larger forces. Although inherent, socially-determined identity also plays a growing role in their shitflinging as time goes on.

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>>17711018
>/i/ deserves to exist with how expansionist we are, but it would really really hurt /jp/'s place as the home for things japanese nerds like.
I'm pretty sure the mods were thinking the same on this subject. I guess idol threads will have to stay.

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>>17711018
>the left-wing "we'll hide a message in their cartoons" tack was always "your parents can't help you, you have to make your own family".
Did they ever actually try to hide it though? Every western comic or cartoon that catered directly to tumblr users bashed you over the head with its particular message. It's to the point where I've been practically trained to subconsciously expect plots revolving around a highly contrived struggle for personal acceptance, diversity and self-fulfillment against the wishes of a larger system that demands conformity whenever I see particular art styles. Even ancient webcomics I read as a kid have jumped on that bandwagon (500 points for who can guess the webcomic I'm referencing!)

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>>17711046
think less steven universe, more tomino.

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>>17707713
my little eye saw an akko too, as >>17709045, is related only to this year

>>17708526
/jp/ full of people in shit space...thats would be /pol/

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>>17708988
>legitimately angry at a B-list movie for casting some black guy as L
I had in /a/ and they was angry because kira was literally an edgy dumb teen

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>>17711061
I don't think Zeon slamming a space colony into a continent to fight a rebellion is a subtle statement against imperialism. From what I know a lot of the leftist messages in Gundam are fairly obvious for Japanese viewers who would be more in tune to their significance.

If you want to talk about hidden messages, Samurai Champloo has a couple. The zombie episode is a dig against WWII Imperial Japan

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>>17711123
I wasn't (only) referring to Gundam, nor to the critiques of imperialism. You missing that is why I think it's hidden even though "your dad is dumb and you need to build your own family" seems so obviously leftist.

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>>17710974
>"gay black? i think you mean nigger faggot"
That sounds like a quote right out of 2004

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I found 4chan and /jp/ at a hard time in my life and wanted /jp/ to be my new family, but at some point that dream and I went separate ways.

In the end all the places I looked I wasn't able to stay for too long. I think when I look back my whole life will be ships passing in the night.

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>>17711139
I'd consider that more of a social critique than a purely political one, but you're right stuff like that is more subtle.

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>>17711034
>>17711018
How would removing idols hurt /jp/ in any way? It's not like the devastation the creation of /vg/ caused.

[Anonymous No.]

At the end of the day, this thread turned right into /pol/. Everything will always be about them, and it hurts.

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>>17711260
I was going to say something similar, but deleted it before posting. Then I typed it again and deleted it. I don't know why people need to inject politics into everything, but it seems to be a very strong compulsion. The double-edged nature of anonymity means good posters can never organize and find themselves in a newer and better community.

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>>17711172
I agree and it annoys me to an extent. I still love chan culture and seek out obscure chans, but 4chan has been struggling.

>>17711260
>>17711276
Everything in the world is politics thanks to the social media dogma injected everywhere. 4chan should've ignored twitter screencaps, not embraced them, but it was probably inevitable considering how game journos and /v/ got along.

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>>17711315
politics is just "questions where everyone has an opinion that we can't collectively agree upon". social media is nothing new, you're just blaming it because you have a picture of people there you disagree with while your own place with your own assumptions is "nonpolitical" because you agree with it all.

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>>17711343
>you're just blaming it because you have a picture of people there you disagree with while your own place with your own assumptions is "nonpolitical" because you agree with it all.
My opinions are plenty political. It wouldn't haunt me if they weren't. I also wouldn't come on this site if I didn't wish to be exposed to people I disagree with. Same with everything. Doesn't mean I can't criticize the outcomes.

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>adding a politics board to a hobby discussion site
The biggest mistake anyone has ever made.

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>>17711369
Well moot couldn't help it. He made a news board and it turned to shit. He removed it and this shit went everywhere. He remade it and it turned to rancid shit. When he removed it rancid shit went even more everywhere. /pol/ is just a containment board for that shit, but moot never realized containment boards do not contain things but instead allow them to fester. He should have just brought the hammer down like with site raiding and gamergate, and let them fuck off to a 7.5 chan where they could be buthurt and call 4chan '4cuck' or whatever forever.

Interestingly enough there's a new news board for some reason beyond my comprehension. It's like no one learned anything.

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>>17707613
Right there with you, man... and I'll be here for your ">14 years on /jp/" thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17707713
>WHY DOES A 2017 PICTURE HAVE 2016-2017 STUFF IN IT??!!11

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I wanted to make a list of ways that in my opinion could improve the website but when I think about it there's really no point in doing that.
The current admin is just like the previous one, he's gonna keep adding useless boards instead of splitting and creating sharper and more specific boards (and those would help creating a better site, if you ask me).

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ can't take it easy.

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>>17711315
>seek out obscure chans
most of them are focused on only 1 subject matter so its a really specific thing to find
some of them also have major board culture overlap just like how /jp/ overlaps with ubuu and how lainchan lowkey overlap(ped) with /g/ (even though most of /g/ hated them for good reasons)

browsing archives of little internet communities is fun though

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>>17710945
same for me i used to go on /int/ a year or so back until it got increasingly /pol/ to the point there wasnt much left of the original culture, people would often redirect obvious /pol/ shitposting back to their board years ago but now their culture has influenced the board so much you might aswell call it /pol/lite unfortunatelly.
cant find a single thread without "cuck" & jewishhandrubbing.jpg being posted somewhere now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17707693
Got in '04

Back when /b/ was in single digit millions of posts.

I'm so old. Kill me.

No LongCat. No TowerCat. No Cockmongler or Happy Negro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17710464
>the games
>>17711723

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder rather than an idol board, a Japanese 3d entertainment board might work

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>>17712232
Least there's still memories
http://macrochan.org/

[Anonymous No.]

>>17712678
Holy shit, I had forgotten about macrochan.

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>>17711863
>lainchan
What a fucking mess. And what a mess the SEL legacy has become.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17712777
What's wrong with lainchan? I haven't been there in a long time because it's pretty much dead now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17712777
>>17712801
Same thing that's wrong with 4chan, mods are fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17712801
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Lainchan

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>>17712801
their admin is clueless, association with SEL when the board has nothing to do with SEL, shit mods, most userbase is into the mlg hax0rgz freedom fightah spectrum and IIRC their previous admin which was fucking 14 years old trolled the site and deleted everything this year

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>>17712933
>>17713010
>>17713043
I see, that's a shame.

>>17713043
>which was fucking 14 years old
So was moot when he started 4chan, so that alone doesn't say much.

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>>17707713
Would posters in 2007 have been mad that a picture had 2007 stuff instead of 2002 stuff from SA?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17708988
I thought the Death Note movie was an okay standalone movie and funny when you consider the source. A solid 6/10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17710299
>"Four Chan" doesn't sound that catchy
how wrong they were

[Anonymous No.]

>>17709097
PINGAS

[Anonymous No.]

>>17712232
Giving me these old /f/ feelings man, that's not cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17709988
Was fyad ever good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17713763
Ah, now I have the song stuck in my head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17713763
I'm still a little upset the lolicatgirls banner didn't win the banner contest. That's some classic /f/ culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17708998
>ever since Facebook and reddit came
2004/05? did you forget about myspace and friendster already? i swear the social media boogeyman just sticks to whatever is popular ATM.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17713154
Yotsuba still sounds better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17712243
I don't like the boats either but where can they go that will take them and where they won't die instantly under waves of other generals?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17712678
Shit that's still alive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17713851
Who cares if they die? It just means their thread doesn't deserve a general. There should be a netgames board though. All the DMM shit, other phone shit, and MMORPGs and MoBAs and FPS can go there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17713851
Imas and F/GO generals are on /vg/ just fine. Boats can fuck off there with no problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17713851
They're fast enough to be on /vg/ without issue

[Anonymous No.]

>>17713902
>>17713928
>>17713960
If they're fast enough to be there why'd they end up here where people don't like them all that much and they don't like the board? I never check /vg/ and I've heard them bitch about their thread being too slow to go there so pardon me if I'm uninformed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17713993
>I've heard them bitch about their thread being too slow to go there
They're lying through their fucking teeth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17713993
>I've heard them bitch about their thread being too slow to go there
>167 posts in 13 hours
Yeah, no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17713993
General posters always make up bullshit as to why they won't go away
"/a/ mods won't let us have our specific LN series threads" even though every other LN series thread can be made on /a/
"We can't discuss on a NSFW board" even though all they do is dump images and ask for source
That thread will be fine on /vg/ if they can even bump it once an hour. /vg/ always has like an entire page of abandoned threads. The problem is the old "/jp/ - my friends are here" where they can't just go to a more appropriate board.

Other than being a shitty game, I don't get why mecha musume aren't /jp/ though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17714123
It seems to me it's less the source material and more the users not caring about any other aspect of /jp/ culture and being shit on for not following any of the conventions and then choosing to hide in their echo thread instead of wonder what they may be doing wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17713810
The banner that did win was terrible. lolicatgirls should have been a shoe-in.

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>>17713993
Because they think /vg/ is shit and because the franchise is considered on-topic for /jp/. That's it. The thread could exist in either board but it exists here and if you tell them to go to /vg/ your post will disappear.

>>17714144
Most of modern /jp/ culture consists entirely of bitching about things, and then bitching about other people bitching about things.

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>>17713902
Futaba does games, online games, social games, and specialized boards for kancolle, token ranbu, and both blue and normal boards for 2hu. I'd kind of like to see that here combined with closures/combinations for some of the slow and easily-confused boards (i also lurk /gd/, and of the single-digit threads it gets a day sometimes over half belong on /i/ or /3/ or /wsr/...)

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>>17715068
Just to clarify, as in specialized boards for the big categories, not necessarily those boards. /v/, /mmoba/, /phonegames/, /vp/, /vr/, and maybe /2hu/.

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>>17715351
/vp/ is unnecessary outside of new releases. It should become a general, talking about new releases allowed on /v/, and the board replaced with something like a moefication board where monstergirls, pokegirls, mlp girls, kancolle, os tans and the like go

>/mmoba/, /phonegames/
Which would Kancolle go in? It's neither. I don't really think phone games should be seperate as people don't really play enough of them here to really be a problem if they have threads for each. Although if /mmoba/ could avoid being a generals-only board by not having phone games included, that would be fine.

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>>17715740
Moefication sounds like a poor fit compared to a social games board. Remember, it would also get mlp crowd, and even without them OS-tan users into retro doujin and imageboard culture don't share much with Kancolle FOTM don't share much with the monster girl not-quite-kemo. But just those last two may work. (And then we can chemo the kemo.)

But I'm not sure American userbase conceptualizes "social games" well, and may mistake it for /qst/.

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>>17716010
I think to a point slower boards discourage generals, or at least discourage more siloed generals. So while the slowest should be removed or merged we should look to also make the fastest a bit slower.

Oh, other split that I'd like to see: /ck/ into a cooking board and a junk food board. On the other hand, /toy/ can go back into /m/, and the half of /m/ that's /a/: sad old men edition can go back into /a/. Then the half of /a/ that's cartoon memes can go back into /b/ to replace the post-2016 frogposting that can go back to that spamfiltered site with the alien mascot.

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>>17716017
You can say Reddit you know, I think a specific phrase using the name is wordfiltered but the name itself is not.

Also honestly the only board I would create was a containment board for celebrities, including e-celebs. Would clean up much of /tv/, /v/, /mu/, /jp/, /pol/ and especially /hr/, which is 90% celeb threads

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>>17716109
I spent like ten minutes experimenting with what word to remove, and it was the one that finally let me post. Maybe in combination with gb2 is the problem?

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>>17716116
Yeah, that phrase is wordfiltered.

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>>17716010
>even without them OS-tan users into retro doujin and imageboard culture don't share much with Kancolle FOTM don't share much with the monster girl not-quite-kemo.
Yet they are already together on one board. Nice argument.

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>>17716234
And we got on this topic by discussing what a silly combination that was. Why not fix it in a hypothetical shakeup?

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>>17710189
The lyrics and the overall composition are great. I wasn't really around when this was made and would like to ask if this was based on something? Not saying that there isn't talent on this board but it's too good to be pure OC you know. But if this came from the heart then it's easy to understand why it sounds so good.
>言葉探し
>君にも感じてもらえるように
>この想いよ、誰かに届け！
These lines were really good.

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>>17722825
It's pure OC. There really are a lot of genuinely creative and talented people here. I still find myself listening to the first /jp/ music compilation album.

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>>17722825
I'm partial to the first, t b h.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_eyUVVcgc8

Maybe it's because it was made closer to when I came in and I could still remember the stuff it talks about all that time ago. Also it's a lot more genki than the second.

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>>17707613
>pepe
>trump

someone please nuke this site already

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>>17724059
/pol/ was the worst mistake. And /news/ before that.

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>>17709540
I only use the phrase "unironically" ironically.

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>>17707907
>>17707870
The term "newfag" only really started to come into use when 4chan started to grow rather quickly in 2007.

>>17708183
>>17710444
/jp/ has been a dumping ground for the shit that the mods didn't want on the other boards from day one, its just that it took until 2012-13 to really make inroads into the board which is sad because this place was fun before the generals and the crossboarders came along with them

>>17708988
>Even when you remove politics the culture still demands that we be mad at *something*
this is why i really don't understand when people say /pol/ is the problem. When the wider culture irl becomes a larger politcal battleground every year, even if /news/ remained dead and /pol/ never saw the light of day politics affecting the boards would still be a problem, as the conflict becomes more ubiquitous.

>>17710110
I had fun too, i just wish i could have some more.
This wasn't even that big a problem until like 4-5 years ago before 4chan became "serious", and the mods start draining the fun out of the boards.
Trying to have fun on blue boards in hard now in part, due to the fact that were not really permitted much off topic anymore.
I haven't seen a powerranking thread on /sp/ in years, and /tg/ got inundated with generals and quests in 2012, and the aftermath is still there, even though /qst/ was made

>>17710149
I don't think this place is done either, but as far as i can tell its gonna stagnate for a while until there's a decent shakeup.
If something caused the mods to stop treating 4chan as a place for "serious discussions" for their own sake, things would likely improve even if it didn't fix everything

>>17710181
>>17710318
as much i would like to cut 4chan off from the wider aspects of the web i don't think we can do that, its just something that we'll have to roll with

>>17710480
>>17710486
i'd say the problem with generals across the entire site is that they make things more repetitive and predictable and less dynamic and spontaneous.Also generals are usually bound to a rather specific topic, instead of having a normal thread that is a good cross section of the board

>>17712933
It annoys me how every chan that has something more than an anemic user base attracts shit mods, its why all the alternatives to this place can never really have any staying power. Its already ban enough that the mods are retarded and have contempt for the site here.

>>17722825
i always liked this one better, its more cheerful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCSM4W8vk3Q

I guess most people here want 4chan to be fun and distinct again, we will probably have to break new ground and try new things. Its not really possible to hold on to much on the minutiae of the old board culture, we have to hold onto the core of what worked and head in new directions from there. That and trying to get the jannies to stop being a bunch of candy-asses.

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>>17724624
>I guess most people here want 4chan to be fun and distinct again, we will probably have to break new ground and try new things.
the problem is that frankly tumblr and twitter are that. full anonymity in a limited space has the fatal flaw of being easily hijacked to majoritarianism as the consciously punk early adopters become outnumbered by users who are glad to have a space for THEIR fetish but dislike everyone else's; both the tumblr idea of fractal identity in an unconstrained space and the shitaraba idea of unconstrained identity in a fractal space were attempts to solve this, but since 4chan was always hostile to board expansion and had to exist on its own rather than as an easily-digestible sidekick to a bigger text board complex, it got left behind from both.

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>>17724624
>its why all the alternatives to this place can never really have any staying power.

It's the users too, the difference in content is super delicate, 2AM threads are essentially spam, but they're comfy as fuck and super fun. The problem is that people don't understand what makes them fun. Everything else feels like a weird imitation, and I end up just feeling annoyed with the other people, where as on /jp/ it's always felt like fucking around with a group of friends. Yeah, maybe sometimes one of them is being a faggot, but it's not a big deal, and you can always join in in fucking around. At the end of the day you like your annoying friend more than 99% of the rest of the world, and no other website has been able to get whatever that is to work.

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>>17709314
nah, it's completely dead

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Alot of boards are tired of /pol/ and /v/ attracting redditors, /int/ and /bant/ seem to be actively immune to them


My biggest issue is pol spreading all memes to the point of cancerous growth, awoo is /jp/ stuff and hold up is /int/, but /pol/ just has to bring it out of there and into the real world

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Has Marutei Tsurunen been mentioned already?

>Tsurunen was representing the democrats in the upper house of the Japanese parliament during they years 2002-2013 as its first Western born member.

A fucking major achievement considering how doubtful the Japanese are against foreigners. Of course Finland is an exception of some sort, the older folk knows and appreciates Mannerheim and Finns.

Apparently a very conservative politician and that's exactly what japskies like.