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They only volunteer to become janitors because they want to feel powerful and in-charge, and ban evaders completely undermine that.
(16:40:58) ‹+VCR_Working› they mock the hell out of authority, and do whatever they want, even if rules were established they wouldn't listen
(18:57:36) ‹+VCR_Working› they'll go against authority in general
(23:29:25) ‹+VCR_Working› but nooo it's 'fuck authority'
(16:03:27) %fsdfdsf: Anything you say in support of any rule enforcement is gonna cause you to be accused of being a mod
(16:03:53) +McNuggets: I've always been in favor of rules enforcement, though. Hell, rules/law is my life.
(16:03:57) @RapeApe: In many ways Tali is right: we can only moderate by consent here. There are at minimum tens of thousands of posters on 4chan at any given time. There are >100 of us. We cannot stop a riot should one occur.
(16:04:14) @RapeApe: It is critical that we maintain that consent.
(16:04:22) %fsdfdsf: Indeed
(16:05:00) +AoC: I disagree. Yes, our current ban system amounts to no more than a slap on the hand
(16:05:24) +McNuggets: I can't rightly agree with that either. Don't sell us short. Especially those of us who put up with /jp/ ;)
(16:05:37) +AoC: but the idea that there's a point to agree with the serial shitposters is laughable because what they hold as what 4chan should be
(16:05:47) +AoC: is contrary to what moot and the rest of the userbase wants
(16:06:19) +McNuggets: I cannot imagine a full scale riot, though. It would take organization and leadership that they just don't have. If they did, they'd have made their own highly successful *chan and moved on long ago.
(16:06:39) +AoC: so yeah, bans only last as long as the user wants them to, but there's no middle ground to reach with the Manly Tears, Tali and Siztras of the board
(16:06:53) @RapeApe: I am not saying we should bend to a few morons. I am saying that if everyone hates us and disregards our authority because we have no credibility in their eyes, then this site will be utterly ungovernable.
(16:07:15) +Azatsu: That's pretty much it, and why we should be extra careful currently
(16:07:23) +VCR_Working: that's the point of their constant shitflinging
(16:07:27) +AoC: I agree with that, yes
(16:08:02) +VCR_Working: i just want people to have fun without others trying to ruin it for everyone
(16:08:02) +McNuggets: Yeah, but we're not talking about everyone. We're talking about the crackheads that we drove out. I'm sorry, but I can't bring myself to feel bad about some ban evading shitposter disregarding my authority.
(16:08:06) +AoC: problem is that credibility is subjective and I'd rather have the support of a good minority than a shitposter majority that doesn't care about the long term
(16:08:17) +AoC: talking about jp here btw, different in other boards
(16:08:30) +Azatsu: Well AoC
(16:08:50) %fsdfdsf: I believe /a/ still supports their mods
(16:08:53) %fsdfdsf: They are still reporting
(16:09:09) +McNuggets: I agree with a measure of caution. Reasonable heads will prevail. People are still reporting, even on /mlp/.
(16:09:20) +Azatsu: /jp/'s quite out of control currently, and it feels like many angry posters have even left because of how bad the threads are nowadays
(16:09:39) +Kazisho: Apparently, /vp/ started reporting when the new janitors were introduced.
(16:09:57) +VCR_Working: yeah
(16:10:19) +VCR_Working: made sure to buckle down when i first joined
(16:10:22) %fsdfdsf: The way I see it, actions speak louder than words
>(16:08:02) +VCR_Working: i just want people to have fun without others trying to ruin it for everyone
This is pretty damn ironic by the way.