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EVENT DURATION: 20 DAYS Starting Nov.1

Previous Thread: >>11599777

English Wiki
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki

Must reads
FAQ: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_FAQ
Tutorial: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_How_to_Play
Guides: http://pastebin.com/jvTQfLqb

Japanese Wikis
http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Others
Detailed Battle Mechanics (wikiwiki): http://goo dot gl/FUMcz
Kancolle Vita: http://www.kancolle-vita.com/
Voice Clips, Room Deco Pv, Game Sprites: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev/

Also, please be considerate with those screencaps. At least delete them when they're not relevant anymore.

To non-/jp/-regulars: /jp/ has its own standards for posting. It would be greatly appreciated if you could follow them. These include, but are not limited to discouraging the use of most emoticons and proper use of the quoting function (don't use it for bullet points: greentexting).

>> No.11608816

If iku sank should i start over

>> No.11608821

>>11608816
Yes

>> No.11608824

>>11608816
No, because you'll sink her again

>> No.11608830

>>11608816
No, you should just sink yourself.

>> No.11608838

>>11608821
>>11608824
>>11608830
I don't know what happened I guess she was fatigued. I am seriously considering registering a new account since the lottery is right around the corner.

>> No.11608847 [DELETED] 

Can we finally pack these threads up and send them to /vg/?

You guys seem like you would be more at home there anyway.

>> No.11608840

>>11608816

I'm amazed how people are able to sink limted edition event ships. So much I don't believe it actually happens without at least a screen.

So, in a brilliant display of crossposting and invasive foreign board culture... nice b8 m8

>> No.11608851

>>11608847
Why doesn't /vg/ have them anyway?

>> No.11608856

>>11608851
/jp/ was originally the board for "stuff that looks like /a/ but isn't" and a lot of people still think of it that way.

>> No.11608858

>>11608847
Sure, as long as we send Touhou threads there too.

(I'm neither a Kancolle nor a Touhou fan, for the record)

>> No.11608859

>>11608838
You didn't buy that "ships that are orange never sink!" bullshit, do you?

>> No.11608859,1 [INTERNAL] 

This looks like a thread to watch out for, W-bros.

>> No.11608859,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>11608847
Janishite won't allow it because he can't babysit the thread on /vg/

>> No.11608870

There isn't even one proof video of a ship ever sinking at medium health. The only time a ship will ever sink is advancing to a new node at red.
Night time battles aren't separate battles so sending a ship that was made red in that battle into night battle/day battle if it starts at night will never make it sink. Not one proof video has ever been posted of anything otherwise.
Also fatigue and refueling have no effect on sinking.
Anyone who says they have had a ship sink otherwise without proof is a troll.

>> No.11608876

>>11608870
Deep sea spy detected.

>> No.11608881

If you guys go sw at pre-boss node do you just leave or man it up?

>> No.11608885

>>11608881
Leave. Fought her once, and didn't get anything out of it, so no point doing it again.

>> No.11608891

>>11608885
I'm debating cause I get sent there every time now it seems since I got boss to 2/3 health. I arrive there with only one ship in orange and than leave with all ships in red, this map is bollocks.

>> No.11608892

>>11608851
/a/ offloaded their game discussion to /jp/ because they heard we had threads. So essentially it's because we're /a/'s trash can. Some things never change.

>> No.11608898

>>11608892
>people came to /jp/ to discuss something that is discussed on /jp/
please say it ain't so

>> No.11608902

>>11608898
All discussion of Kancolle as an actual multimedia franchise is taking place in /a/. These threads are just nonstop mechanical discussion and game blogging.

>> No.11608910

>>11608870
This post is the embodiment of enemy propaganda


Can't fool me

>> No.11608912

>>11608870
Where's the MP at?

>> No.11608921

>>11608870
All japanese sources seem to agree with this, but there was something that suggested that the very high end of high damage can still appear as middle damage (as in, when 1 more hp of damage will take you to 大破), so maybe only proceed at the higher end of mid-damage, and just to be safe only do it with replacable ships, not Yamato and Musashi.

>> No.11608924

Time to run those red ships to the ground.

>> No.11608924,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>11608859,2
I don't even like Kancolle! Geez, where would you get that idea?!

>> No.11608927

>>11608870

"You don't need a video to tell you which way a ship sinks." -Верный

>> No.11608927,1 [INTERNAL] 

I really need to improve my Japanese and get off the English-language internet because there's nowhere remotely non-shitty to discuss Kancolle in English.

Maybe it really is because it's a shit game that attracts shit people.

>> No.11608927,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>11608927,1
No, there's just really nowhere good to discuss Japanese media that isn't anime or manga in English.

>> No.11608927,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>11608927,1
try gaianet or hongfire.

>> No.11608927,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>11608927,2
Is there a good place to discuss Japanese media that is anime and manga in English?

I generally think of /a/ as being as good as it gets, which is not exactly inspiring.

>> No.11608965
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11608965

How does this looks for E-5 ?
I have no idea what to use in place of the sanshikis, but perhaps they are useful for E-5 too.

>> No.11608973

>>11608965
I'd put a green gun on takao too. All units in the boss fight launch planes.

>> No.11608978

>>11608973
uhhh not that anon but I have roughly the same setup except sanshikidans on everyone and 10cm on torp sisters. Think I'll be fine?

>> No.11608982

>>11608978
>>11608973
If you opt for that setup, you'll go north and enconter node H, a whirlpool, so a radar seems to be needed.

Though yeah, having an AA weapon on takao and a radar instead of a sanshiki on a Kongou is better - since the 46cm can already activate AA.

>> No.11608987

>>11608965
46cm x2, radar and damage control on battleships. 15.5cm x2, sanshikidan and damage control on heavy cruisers. Your torpedo cruisers are okay.

>>11608973
The sanshikidan already makes main and sub cannons fire anti-air rounds. So removing them in exchange for an anti-air gun is pretty much the same.

>> No.11608987,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>11608927,4
The guy you are replying to is a liar, there are no good places to discuss anime or manga

>> No.11608992

>>11608982
Oh, the radar avoids the whirlpool effects or something? Can't find anything on the wiki about it.

>> No.11608995

>>11608982
I still believe in the 46cm + type-3 hidden placebo synergy. So I'll change two reds on takao to 12.7 cms

>> No.11608996

>>11608992
Reduces its effect.

>> No.11608996,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>11608987,1
Figures.

>> No.11609010

>>11608965
>>11608973
>>11608987
All right for the 46cm, it might be better, and I have more than enough.

About AA, I just did some test and 15.5 secondary gun + 10cm secondary gun can activate double attack too. Wouldn't that gun setup be better for boss fight AA ?

>> No.11609020

>>11609010
If you want more AA, sure. Those 10cm high-angle guns acts as main guns at night.

>> No.11609019

What setup should I be running E4 with? Currently have 1 Torpedo Cruiser, 1 Aviation Cruiser, 2 Kongous and 2 Heavy Cruisers but always seem to have someone hit down to red while trying to reach the boss. I'm guessing it's just relying on dumb luck to get to the boss?

>> No.11609025

Is the typesetter anon around?

>> No.11609027

>>11608965
On that note, how hard is E5 compared to E4? There is one less node to worry about, and the 2/3 chance for a Wo-class in the second node is certainly a welcome change over E4 and its CA/BB nodes, but the boss fight seems as tricky as it was in E4.

>> No.11609034

>>11609027
Boss fight is about the same difficulty but that flagship node is a pain in the ass.

>> No.11609035

>>11609027
Haven't tried yet as I wait to complete today's daily, but the fact that the boss starts during day sounds a bit annoying.

>> No.11609038

>>11609025
The typesetters usually hang around in the /a/ threads. Lately a namefag known as S.T.A.L.K.E.R. has essentially taken over most of the typesetting.

>> No.11609045

>>11609038
I see, thanks.

>> No.11609068

So, did anyone confirm that the E-4 and E-5 bosses won't regen if you keep the game on the starting screen of the battle with it?

>> No.11609102 [DELETED] 

Face it, the only reason you weebs like this shitty game is because it's in nip and not in English.

>> No.11609110

>>11609102
Responding to a troll post etc, but yeah, the Japanese VAs are definitely a big part of me liking the game. I ain't even frustrated.

>> No.11609111

>>11609102
you're right. thanks for enlightening me, you can go now.

>> No.11609114 [DELETED] 

>>11609110
>>11609111
Wow.

So weeb.

So sent ;)

>> No.11609135

>>11609038
Just for short little pixiv comics. The manga and doujins still seem to come from guys out of here. But with the length of the threads and the image limit it's probably easier to work on /a/ anyway.

>> No.11609139

Losing a ship feels bad as fuck.

>> No.11609142

This is sad, Based off of my first couple attempts I don't think I'm going to be able to beat E-3, and certainly not enough to get agano

>> No.11609151

So double bar seems to be the best to keep my BBs from getting shit on in E-4? Because I'm having awful luck with it so far.

>> No.11609186
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11609186

Probably should have focused on Yuudachi first.

>> No.11609192
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11609192

guys what does this do?

>> No.11609197

>>11609142
You still have a little over a week. Grind up.

>> No.11609198

>>11609192
It's does the same thing to your kanmusu as removing a hat would do to a Touhou.

>> No.11609214

I hate E-2 so much. So fucking god damn much.
Is E-4 much frustrating? Is this why people get damage controls?
God damn fuck I'm so mad at this map

>> No.11609216

>>11609214
E4 is 10 times worse

>> No.11609219

>>11609214
You're gonna looove E4.

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11609222

Come on in.

>> No.11609226
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>>11609222
I would never betray ヲ like that.

>> No.11609231

>>11609214
I wasted 12 hours, 20k fuel/ammo/steel and 3 emergency repairs only to fail with an avarage of 68 levels.
It's worse.

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11609230

>>11609214
I. Love. E4.

>> No.11609233

>>11609214
>>11609216
>>11609219

I haven't seen any other posts in this thread at all, so I'm just going to assume it's for /jp/ users in the military.

>> No.11609235

>>11609222
I still want to see what happens when you take a Ka-class submarine's mask off. I bet she'd panic and struggle around in water, unable to swim and deathly afraid of drowning, until she notices that abyss ships can breathe underwater anyway.

>> No.11609236
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11609236

So someone said last thread sitting at this screen on E5 will stop her health from regenerating? Does it also apply for E4 so I can stop shooting myself in the foot and let resources regen?

>> No.11609238

>>11609214
I can't fucking clear E2. I've been trying for a week. I make it to the boss node 1 out of every 5 tries, and every single fucking time I either kill all enemies during night thime without getting a shot at the boss, or nerf my squad so much that I can't even kill it during the day. The support team does nothing (except eat up 100 fuel for every try). I think I'm just gonna quit. Faggot ass casual facebook game.

>> No.11609245

>>11609236
I'm going to test it, need to get some sleep anyway. I'm down to the last big bar so I'll give a report once I wake up in about...12 hours or so.

But a confirmation would be nice, yeah.

>> No.11609248

>>11609235
I want to believe she's got a mole near her bottom lip she hides with the mask because it makes her less attractive.

>> No.11609251

>>11609233
Imagine finishing off the E2 boss, only to realize that you're actually halfway through the map, and that you actually have to run two E2 maps back-to-back in order to get to the real boss. Which by the way is nigh-immune to anything but BBs and CAs. Also, there are Ta-class battleships, and the boss gauge regenerates.

That's how E4 feels like.

>> No.11609278

What do you guys use as support fleet for E5 ? Mine (DD/DD/CVL/CVL) isn't doing much so far.

>> No.11609295

>>11609278
read the support expeditions part on the wiki

>> No.11609306

>>11609198
but there are easts without hats to start with...

>> No.11609301

>>11609278
You shouldn't rely on them too much.

Even them taking out 1 ship is usually fine in my opinion.

>> No.11609309 [DELETED] 

>>11608902
or it would be, if some janny didn't keep randomly deleting the threads...

>> No.11609311

>23:00
It's surprising how good those idle and time lines are, can't wait for the next event or update to roll around.

>> No.11609322
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11609322

I accidentally cleared E-4.

Took about 6 hours, 9k fuel used. 4x sanshikidan. Didn't bother sparkling Kongou sisters. 90 buckets.

Final run was boss node without even yellow damage, KTKM-sama hit boss for about 100, Maya hit her for about 150 or so, and then Kongou went ZEN HOUMUN FIAHHH dealing 300~400 damage. 46 cm on Kongou and Hiei, 41 cm on Nagato whom I only brought for the kill.

Ganbare, teitokutachi who are stuck on E-4.

>> No.11609325

>>11609322
oh yeah, the first screenshot was taken after my first run at E-4, where I managed to sink the boss. "Why the hell not" and I continued.

>> No.11609327

>>11609322
>Ganbare, teitokutachi
That.

Stop that.

>> No.11609330

So uh, Kancolle thread.
Is it still okay to start playing at this point? Can I have fun?
Is there a way to ensure your ships will never sink ever, even if it has an impact on "productivity"?

>> No.11609336

>>11609327
yeah, what a weaboo

>> No.11609343

>>11609322
Fuck this RNG bullshit.
My fleet was literally 20 levels above yours and it didn't mean jackshit.

>> No.11609342

>>11609330
Sure you can. Just make sure not to sortie with any fatigued ships, and retreat whenever someone goes orange.

>> No.11609345

>>11609343
Night battles are so great, aren't they?

>> No.11609346

>>11609343
did you spend 4 damage controls while doing it? I forgot to mention this. I pushed on even at reds. It really makes chipping away at the gauge easier.

>> No.11609350

>>11609346
I spend 3 repairs and 12 hours only to fail like a little bitch.

>> No.11609353

>>11609350
My condolences.

>> No.11609366

>>11609342
I see, that sounds accurate. Thanks, I'll see if I can get up at 6AM to try the lottery.

>> No.11609371
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11609371

I just started a few days ago and here is my fleet so far. How am I doing?

Currently on 1-4, expeditions 3 and 5 for fuel. Not sure when I should try E1 for Iku.

Anything I should be aiming for?

>> No.11609378

>>11609371
You could clear E-1 and E-2 next weekend. Just start leveling up a heavy cruiser in Chiyoda's (useful for everything but this event) spot

>> No.11609395

>>11609378
Ok, I switched her out for a Lv14 Atago.

I don't need to craft anymore ships and should focus fuel on leveling, right?

>> No.11609396

>>11609395
Pretty much. Once you can clear 1-4 without difficulties, you should be good for E-1.

>> No.11609400

>>11609396
Thanks, that's good to know. I'm assuming I will be replacing one of my destroyers when I get Iku.

>> No.11609407

>>11609400
Nah, keep the destroyers for the event. Low level submarines are not useful in event maps. For more information, check out the wiki's event map guides.
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Fall_2013_Event

>> No.11609429
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11609429

And it only took some 10-odd hours.

>> No.11609436

Ho boy, I didn't expect E5 to be this hard.
Over 14 runs so far,
10 to the last branch,
5 to the boss,
Damaged her 4 times,
0 times under 50% HP (best at 240/400)

The kill is going to be crazy hard.

>> No.11609457

>>11609436
sparkle

>> No.11609456

>>11609436
The kill is not as difficult as e4's in my opinion. Day to night battle gives plenty more opportunity to wipe out the lower level ships (probably not the himes though) to let night battle focus on the boss.

>> No.11609475

>>11609457
this sounds pretty dangerous given the high regeneration rate. Does it help a ton ? I can't picture it being useful for each run or so.

>> No.11609492

>>11609436
What fleet?

>> No.11609498

Takao class is a fucking crit magnet.

>> No.11609511
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11609511

Any guesses on the characters getting the new remodel next week?

No idea on who the CA is, but the moonfolks are fairly certain the BB would be Hiei.

>> No.11609516

>>11609492
CLT/BB/BB/CA/CA/CLT
standart equipment, CLT are about 97, CA over 60, BB little under 90.

>> No.11609525
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>>11609516
Have you tried support fleets? Supposedly 4 CVs with nothing but torpedo bombers are quite effective. Pic related.

>> No.11609525,1 [INTERNAL] 

.....

>> No.11609538

>>11609436
I think you have to take the chance and bring red ships to night battle. Just gotta trust that if they didnt start the fight at red, they wont sink.

>> No.11609542

>>11609538
I did, and lost a damage control on Ooi this way. for E5, night battle is considered as a second phase.

>> No.11609549

>>11609511
Hiei would be a logical choice. I said it in the last thread as well, but I'm pretty sure the CA is going to be Aoba getting her AA refit as the devs had hinted on Twitter a while ago.

>> No.11609553
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11609553

Should I bring BB into E-2 ? So far my setupmanaged to get the boss hp bar down but they are too low on firepower to kill the boss or just too dunb to aim at it.

I wonder if adding a heavier ship would still please RNG to led me into the boss node without critting my ships. Spend 12 hours to get to the boss and no success. The fuck am I doing wrong?

>> No.11609554

>>11609553
hardest hitters at the bottom yo

>> No.11609557

>>11609542
Zero fatigue?
Started at orange or yellow?

>> No.11609558

>>11609557
No (visible) fatigue, orange

>> No.11609565

>>11609553
I was able to kill the boss using a CVL for the final fight. If your ships are consistently not hitting targets, it's easier to bring in a CVL and go for the kill during the day battle, since there's a high chance of one of the elites surviving.

...then again, I'm not sure if it's recommended. It just worked for me.

>> No.11609576

>>11609553

2 Kongous guarantee going straight to the boss. Worked 100% of the time for me.

>> No.11609587

>>11609554
Trying that right now.

>>11609565
They are hitting the boss but too weak to kill her for good or just aiming at that elite DD to prevent me from doing day battle.

I have RJ at level 17, but I'm too scared to even send something beeing able to be one shoted from orange/red (Hibiki is a fucking tank), I wasted all of my damage controls and one throwout ship.

>>11609576
Post your setup fellow Admiral

>> No.11609591

>>11609553
No, that's just a waste of resources. Use 3DDs, 2 CAs and 1CLT instead. Destroyers on the first three slots and the last three slots the CAs and the on the last slot the CLT. My Kitakami finished off the boss when she was at the very bottom and she decided to do a cut-in on her. Stack red guns on your ships for double attack if you want since it generally activates more than cut-in

>> No.11609589

I seriously need help with my E5 composition since I'm completely lost with it. What's the safest route to take? What should I bring for it?

>> No.11609592
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11609592

Holy fuck.

>> No.11609595

>>11609589
I heard ability to read is pretty OP

>> No.11609599

>>11609597
Because you need to have two destroyers no matter what. That's all the space that's left.

>> No.11609597

>>11609525
Why is the optimum support fleet size 4, anyway? Just in terms of supply efficiently or is it more likely to trigger?

Also, if I'm planning to bring along Mutsu to finish off the E5 boss, I'm forced to go south since she's the only low speed ship in my fleet, right? How bad is the whirlpool up north?

>> No.11609598

>>11609592
> 168/170
Holy fuck indeed.

>> No.11609600

>>11609595
Give me something to read then. The only information on the wiki is the routes which is completely useless since it doesn't state what the routes are like at all.

>> No.11609603

>>11609600
What else do you need besides a chart showing you exactly what enemy ships are at each node plus their formation?

http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B7%E8%C0%EF%A1%AA%C5%B4%C4%EC%B3%A4%B6%AE%A4%F2%C8%B4%A4%B1%A4%C6%A1%AA#area5

>> No.11609608

>>11609591
My Oii is only level 5. Can she do it ?

>> No.11609609

>>11609600
For the past week, admirals here has been blogging about their fleet compositions.

>> No.11609618

>>11609608
Need level 10 remodel at least.

>> No.11609620

>>11609608
I don't think so, try remodeling her and get her to at least 20s or 30s. If you have the midget-sub, put it on her so that if you're forced to do the day battle, you have an opening torpedo attack. If not then just stack torpedoes on her.

>> No.11609637

>>11609436
Around 10k of each resource sunk in E5 for the past 4h and I lowered the bar of about 8% so far.

I guess i'll give it up for this weekend and build resources back for a last attempt at E5 in 6 days.
The psychological drain of going NE 6 times in a row is also pretty hard. When lady luck is away, wait for her to come.

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11609644

>>11609637
That fucking NE compass is fucking rage inducing.
I am thinking of cheesing it with subs or bruteforcing with 3kongou+fast ships with A B C D route.
At least with the latter, my support is guarantee to hit.

>> No.11609647

>>11609637
The E-5 compass give me less of a hard time compared to E-4

>> No.11609652

>>11609647
I went 10 times out of 14 to the E4 boss, and 6 times out of 18 to E5 boss personally.

>> No.11609661

>>11609652
What's your composition? I'll try avoiding it.

>> No.11609675

>>11609661
BB/BB/CA/CA/CLT/CLT

>> No.11609685

>>11609652
Try the center route perhaps?

>> No.11609719

I hope Kako and Mogami forgive me.

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11609769

Among your kanmusu, who is performing surprisingly well in the event? Tone started as my lowest level ship of the event fleet as I never leveled CA to the level of my CV or even my BBs, but she dealt large amount of damage to E-4 boss for me.

>>11609719
How could they forgive you when they are no longer alive? This was their afterlife and you got them killed, again.

>> No.11609781

>>11609769
I would level Tone so much more if she was a cute girl like that.

>> No.11609778

>>11609769
I'll light some incense.

>> No.11609806
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11609806

Poor Choukai doesn't have the water displacement to pull off a panpankapan.

>> No.11609827

>>11609769
Fubuki. I originally started using her as a sacrificial boat at E-4, but she kept surviving sortie after sortie. She's now level 15, hardcore as fuck, and permanently taken off the forlorn hope list.

>> No.11609831

>>11609558
>>11609542
You have gotta be kidding me.
I dont plan to put any DC on Kitaooi. Was planning on double attack + minisub setup.
What now? Pull back everytime either of them hit red instead of night battle?

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>>11609769
Yukikaze. Anywhere from 250 dmg on E4 boss to taking Elite BB Cut-ins for 2 damage, I don't understand it but I'm not complaining.

>> No.11609835

>>11609769
Furutaka. She was my very first CA and I left her at 27 when I'm clearing 2-3 up to 3-2. Now she's 37 and was part of the fleet who took down E-2.

>> No.11609845

Ok I have an important question.
I know a lot of people have claimed to have lost a ship who became orange in day battle when they progressed into night battle, or who was orange when they progressed into day battle.
But has anyone lost a ship like that outside of one of the events? Is there any chance that its easier to lose ships during the event?

And of course, if they were at red fatigue or something when you lost the ship, mention that too.

>> No.11609849

>>11609769

Akagi, I told her if she got crit to orange before the boss node one more time I'd swap her out for Hiryuu. So far she has refrained from pulling any of that Midway shit again.

>> No.11609852

>>11609831
Put one as flagship.
The other one I have damage control on until the last kill range.

>> No.11609854

Just to confirm. (again)
No matter what kind of ship I put solo to even the hardest map. it won't sink right?

>> No.11609861

>>11609854
Yes, but you'll be kicked out at red.

>> No.11609862

>>11609769
Yukikaze.
She was only lvl20+ when I did E2 with her and generally outperformed yudachi kai2 & bephin. Didnt use activate any damage control while Maya was a huge flop, used up to 2DC and. never hitting the boss with sanshiki
She is now 42 and I am not going to bench her for E5.

>> No.11609868

Got Yuubari from 30/30/30/30

>> No.11609870

>>11609834
>>11609862

That's to be expected, Yukikaze has excellent luck.

>> No.11609872

>>11609769
Atago is my MVP. I used her from E-1 to E-5.

>> No.11609898
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11609898

Kaiten torpedoes when? Those fairies probably die when the enemy shoots down your planes anyway.

>> No.11609905

>>11609898
Faeries can't die, though.

>> No.11609910
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>>11609898
It was mentioned in a past thread that the developers went out of their way to point out that suicide weapons won't be included in the game.

KTKM-sama doesn't approve of those torpedoes anyway.

>> No.11609911

Iku equipped with sonar dodges more depth charges than with turbine.

I don't know anymore

>> No.11609921

>>11609910
Tons of people are already suiciding their ships to clear E4. Adding kaiten wouldnt change anything.

>> No.11609926

>>11609921
Right. Just because some users are scums, the devs are justified on adding suicide crafts. Makes a whole lot of sense.

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>>11609921
Tons of people should scuttle themselves.

>> No.11610033 [DELETED] 

I leave my highest level ship in my main fleet before I go offline, does anyone else do that too?

>> No.11610038

>>11610033
Yep, I always leave my two level 90 subs in my main fleet when I go offline.

>> No.11610047

Where is the best map to farm CVL/+AA food?
So far just doing 2-3 and 3-2 but it is slow. Maybe I should start up my Isuzu farm.

>> No.11610141

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22221192

Our God is an awesome god

>> No.11610165
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11610165

Figured I'd give the 九一 shell a try since I had excess ammo. First time trying to craft it, Lv18 and Lv21-Nagato.
Bad luck finally turned over for once.

>> No.11610171

>>11610141
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22221192
Yuuhei Satellite doing Kan Colle arrangement? Today is an awesome day.

>>11610165
If you're referring to your crafting luck, you've been crafting junk because of your low HQ level.

>> No.11610177

>>11610171
Bad luck with T-cross's, nodes, etc.

>> No.11610191

>>11610177
It's to pay for the Nagato.

>> No.11610205

>>11608881
sorry for late reply.
if you want to avoid fatigue and have spare bucket&resources, it's better to fight.

>>11608921
that's another theory which rely on HP percentage (e.g 33% HP or less is prone to sinking).

>>11609845
it's purely psychological in my opinion.

most people focus their attention to their ships when they do event maps.
that's not the case when they do regular maps such as 2-3 or 3-2. on those maps, they just do mindless grinding while multitask with other activities which can lead to sortieing fatigued ships or accidentally proceeding to the next battle.

If kancolle MP exist, most of us would be court-martialed for negligence.

>> No.11610234

>>11610205
Throughout all the suiciding run and DC used in E4 I am pretty certain that orange at the start(maybe you are right about 33% of total HP) does not sink.
The problem would be starting a new phase of night battle at RED? Does it count as a new battle and the ship lose its sinking protection?

I want to believe what >>11608870 said since all the E5 clear video that I have seen so far have teitoku sending red ships into the night battle taking single digit damage from boss cutin. If only there is a video of red ship sinking at night battle.

>> No.11610255

>3 hours until lottery
I'm holding my dick

>> No.11610261

Just cleared E-4 myself, and I'm a proponent of the orange doesn't sink theory. It might be due to night battles or the map, but orange sinking hasn't happened to me in my 12 hours of E-4 clearing.

The chinese forum's theory of "ships do not sink unless they have 1/4 or less of their hp left" seems sound. However, I think Fatigue is another thing entirely since I've never sent out tired ships for my E-4 runs, so I'm not sure.

>> No.11610275

>>11610261
Did you send ships with positive fatigue at least?

>> No.11610280

>>11610275
I made sure the Mamiya icon isn't flashing when I sent them out, and then once more after they come back. The only recorded sinking I have is me purposely pushing onward into the boss node with ships in red hp. They're all safe and sound, don't worry about that.

>> No.11610285

>>11610280
I asked because I was wondering what the possible cause of those alleged orange sinkings was. Perhaps it's due to positive fatigue? People have reported using throwaways as tests but those likely don't have any fatigue either. But since you ensured your ships didn't have any fatigue before sortieing, I still don't know if that's the case or not.

>> No.11610293

>>11610285
They can always run sacrificial DD through E-4 twice, getting heavily damaged ought to have them at orange fatigue, just bucket them up and go again.

>> No.11610298

>>11610280
what's a mamiya icon? pic pls

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>>11610298
Button on the right (fleet list numbers included as reference)

>> No.11610393

>>11609769
I thought that a level 37 DD wouldn't do much in this event, but Kisaragi went ahead and tore E4 to shreds anyway. Kiso likewise never used her damage control despite pushing on with red every other boss run, and even after having to give her damage control to the Kongo sisters, she was steadfast. As expected from my first DD and CL crafts.

I regret risking them over some trophy I didn't particularly need, though, so I won't do E5. I couldn't care less about Musashi, and I need the E1/E3 drops more anyway.

>> No.11610404

>>11610393
It sounds like DDs are outperforming CAs in E-4.

Did you sink the boss with DDs in your fleet? How many sanshiki?

I might replace one of my ships with Yukikaze.

>> No.11610415

I'm sorry, but I can't take this anymore. It's time to send some DD to Valhalla in order to clear E-4.

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>>11610415

Look at her face and tell her you're going to sacrifice her to pass E-4.

>> No.11610422

>>11610404
I replaced Kisaragi for Yamashiro in the final run, which was unintentional since Kisaragi was fatigued at the time and I had swapped in Yamashiro until she recovered. I had four type-3 ammo in total, 3 on BBs and 1 on a CA.

Replacing a BB with a DD in the earlier runs is heavily recommended, since E4 is all about how many consecutive runs you can afford to do, and the low maintenance costs of DDs really shine in this situation. I'd keep the CAs, though, since they allow BB-like performance with a third of the repair costs of BBs.

>> No.11610423

>>11610415
You can reach the boss easily that way but don't expect to do much damage.

>> No.11610437

>>11610415
You can deplete the health but dont expect to outright kill her without some insane luck.
I did rekt her once with 2BB 1CLT 3DDs run while depleting her health but my last kill which come like 4hours later ended up with me using 3BB 1CA 1DD 1CLT + air support

>> No.11610441

>>11610418
I shall light incense for her, her noble sacrifice will not be forgotten.
>>11610423
I've been at it for 8hours straight. I'm pretty much desperate at this point.

>> No.11610456

>>11610441
It took me 16 hours, don't give in.

Then again I took my time and E-4 only managed to take away 10k of my 50-80k resources.

>> No.11610499

>>11610456
>>11610437
>>11610423
I almost sank shigure and yuudachi, luckily they survived even after being in red.
I decided to just quit the event.

>> No.11610501

>>11610499
You are a wise man. It's not worth sinking your precious shipdaughters over prizes that will be craftable a few months later anyway. Just do what you can comfortably do, and then wait for the next event.

>> No.11610502

anyone know what are the conditions to clear the event expeditions and what the rewards are?

>> No.11610508

Kumano's so silly, doing that bird call while launching planes.

>> No.11610518

>>11610499
Anon dont give up, Hachi is a gold background sub. I dont expect her to be a common non boss node drop.
For your reference, Iku and Goya are both Silver.

>> No.11610522

>>11610441
I know your pain and then some, Teitoku. My final push to clear E4 yesterday took some 12+ hours to finish from roughly 50% health. That also doesn't include the 2-3 days prior where I had to leave the boss at 1/4th health to regen back on me because I ran out of resources.

A friend talked me into using the SS/DD cheese/chip, and I'm glad he did because I eventually farmed up enough fuel to go for the sink with the main fleet while getting the boss within sink range. However, I did feel bad about throwing away all those DDs but they died for the greater good and I will never forget their sacrifices ;_;7

>> No.11610539
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11610539

Do you even idol?

>> No.11610548

>>11610499
I stopped caring about Musashi midway of replenishing my resources for E-5.

Now I just want to get back my KTKM and exploit E-3 for the rare ships.

>> No.11610562

Anyone one knows if remodeling the subs is a good idea? The double repair time looks like a turn off.

>> No.11610566

>>11610562
You don't want cut-ins?

And absolutely nobody is at a shortage of buckets if you care that much.

>> No.11610567

>>11608808

>> No.11610601
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11610601

Stomach rankings.

>> No.11610615

Anyone know any tips or place on how to power level a newly acquired ship? I cleared up until 4-3 and I think my highest level is 70. I just got an Ooi and I was hoping to level her up so I can tackle E-5 with her.

>> No.11610618

How do you get more repair teams? Just events?

>> No.11610620

>>11610618
Spam exped 2. Read the expedition on the wiki to find out other places to get them.

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>>11610615
Spam 3-2-A node with the leveling ship in flag position while running CV/Ls, subs, and/or Kitakami

>> No.11610627

>>11610615
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/World_3:_%E5%8C%97%E6%96%B9%E6%B5%B7%E5%9F%9F#Tips

>> No.11610630

>>11610620
He's probably talking about damage control, not buckets.

>> No.11610629

>>11610620
No, he said repair team(damage control), not bucket

>> No.11610631
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11610631

Say no to sacrificial ships.

>> No.11610633

>>11610629
>>11610630
Oops, my bad then. Disregard that post.

>> No.11610638

>>11610628
>>11610615
I would suggest you to not equip torp on ktkm or bring CVL. If you do put lousy blue planes on it.
Put the best torp on ooi so that she can get mvp every sortie.

>> No.11610645

I hope I get passed this lottery.

>> No.11610648

>>11610615
For single ship training, put her as flagship in 4-1. Mostly you get 2 nodes and there's MVP chance in only submarine node.

>> No.11610651

>>11610645
good luck future admiral

>> No.11610656

>>11610651
4 refreshes and still on this god damn cat.

>> No.11610660

>>11610656
4 in 5 mins? You should refresh 1x in 5 mins, or not?

>> No.11610661

>>11610660
Every 5 minutes the earliest.

>> No.11610663

>>11610656
>>11610660
Recommended 1 time every 5 minutes, try to be more patient

>> No.11610666
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11610666

This means I got in, right?

>> No.11610667

just got in and there was hardly room left on 1 server. that was close.

>> No.11610670

>>11610668
Yay! I was scared at first because the page wasn't loading

>> No.11610668
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>>11610666
Congratulations!

>> No.11610669

>>11610666
>>11610667
Go get iku before it is gone

>> No.11610672

>>11610666
how often you refreshed?

>> No.11610674

>>11610666

I'm sorry anon, you got into the sub-game, not the real Kancolle.

>> No.11610676

>>11610666
wish I got in too...

>> No.11610682

Finally won my lottery but the game is all ducked up and keeps flashing how to fix?

>> No.11610683

>>11610668
If I heard that fuckin girl say that once again...

>> No.11610686

>>11610669
How?

>> No.11610687

>>11610686
By reading the wiki.

>> No.11610692

I can't decide between Murakumo and Inazuma

>> No.11610694

Pick Fubuki or else.

>> No.11610699

>>11610692
why does no one show love for Fubuki anymore?

>> No.11610703

>>11610692
Pick Murakumo

>> No.11610704

>>11610694
I just got in, and picked Fubuki,

>> No.11610705

>>11610703
done and done

>> No.11610706

>>11610699

Whobuki?

>> No.11610710
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>>11610705
Good taste

>> No.11610712
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11610712

>>11610706
Fubuki

>> No.11610712,1 [INTERNAL] 

is this game worth playing or what

>> No.11610712,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>11610712,1
Ask yourself who is frequenting these threads and I'm sure you'll find your answer.

>> No.11610714

>>11610712

Is she important or something?

>> No.11610715

Why not 一生懸命頑張ります with Samidare?

>> No.11610718

Fubuki has the highest luck stats.
You should always pick her. Enjoy your no nagato noobs.

>> No.11610723

>>11610715
Was just going to ask this, she looks the cutest

>> No.11610724

Do you have to keep using VPN and have your timezone changed to play? (just wondering in case I play on different computers)

>> No.11610721

>>11610715
Good taste anon.

>> No.11610722

>>11610714
I'm pretty sure she's important, like a main heroine or something

>> No.11610727

>>11610722
那珂ちゃんだよ!

>> No.11610728

>>11610724
you can use the API link, look on the wiki how to obtain the API link

>> No.11610734

>>11610723

Not only that, but her lines are fucking adorable, from her introduction line to repairing her with heavy damage. She's always doing her best for her Teitoku.

I just want to hug her.

>> No.11610736

>http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%CB%CC%CA%FD%B3%A4%B0%E8
>Yes limited by fleet organization (sortie immediately after): root
     ...... A fleet including the destroyer other than
     E or fleet ............ D of only destroyer
     branch or F → B from the D

I don't get it.I'm diverted to the A node always, I KNOW 6DD requirement, but without 6DD will I always go to the A node?

Because F node might be a possible selective node for 6DD.

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11610738

First time getting anything other than the reload page, but it looks like all the servers are full. Did I miss the boat?

>> No.11610740

>>11610736
>only destroyer
I'm sure you could get what that means.

>> No.11610741

>>11610738
yes

>> No.11610745
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>>11610738
it means you didn't win the lottery, try again next time

>> No.11610748

How much longer of this boat hovering over water will there be? Had it go on for 10 minutes now

>> No.11610751

>>11610748
It takes a while the first time, just be patient and do something else in the meantime

>> No.11610751,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>11610712,2
so no?

>> No.11610753
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11610753

Well shit. You told me this was fun. I'm not having fun.

>> No.11610753,1 [INTERNAL] 

i saw some gameplay on youtube this looks like kamidori

>> No.11610756

>>11610753
You have to earn the rights to play.

>> No.11610758

>>11610753
You're gonna love compass chan.

>> No.11610766

>>11610751
Been 25 minutes now, is this normal?

>> No.11610769

>>11610766
Not really, try refresh and hope your lucky.

>> No.11610771

Well I won my spot on the server, now I can sleep.

>> No.11610773

>>11610753
I wish I could read those moonrunes. What do they say?

>> No.11610777

>>11610769
Worked, thanks. Next question is why is murakumo not getting any love as a starter ship? She seems the cutest.

>> No.11610778

>>11610758
He can't meet compass chan yet but I bet he'd love compass chan too, when he gets to meet her

>> No.11610783

>>11610773
they're all just server names

>> No.11610780

>>11610771
And I woke up at 6.30AM to be told to refresh the page every 5 minutes until I find the new server's full. This is discrimination. Switch with me.

>> No.11610787

>>11610777
she's the second most popular after Inazuma.

>> No.11610784

>>11610777
Because Inazuma is the cutest.

>> No.11610785

I sort of gave up on E4 due to insufficient resources + irregular playtime. Now what should I do, /jp/?

I have cleared 4-4 too, and now grinding aimlessly and slowly to finish 3-4.

>> No.11610786

>>11610777
Sorry, meant Inazuma

>> No.11610789

>>11610785
>11/11/13(Mon)
>gave up
Why so normal? You still have 9days, more than enough to kill her.

>> No.11610793

>>11610790
パラオ泊地

>> No.11610790

>>11610753
What is the name of 12th?

>> No.11610792

>>11610704
You're doing gods work son.

>> No.11610795

>>11610794
Roll a pencil.

>> No.11610794

Shit I really can't decide between Fubuki Samidare and Inazuma, someone pick for me.

>> No.11610796

>>11610794
Always Fubuki. The others are common drops.

>> No.11610797

>>11610790
Parao? Enjoy your pinoy server dude.

>> No.11610798

>>11610796
Done.

>> No.11610799

>>11610777

Have you seriously not tried refreshing at least once? What is wrong with you?

>> No.11610800

>>11610797
It's good there's no chat.

>> No.11610801

>>11610790
Palau Anchorage.
But responding won't get me a place on a server, will it? No, it won't. It just won't.

>> No.11610802
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Finished building this in the factory, pretty cute I guess

>> No.11610808

>>11610802
You'll find yourself saying that a lot while playing this game.

>> No.11610803

>>11610789
Her health seem to regenerate more than I could damage her.

Now to mention I barely have any buckets (around 50+) to complete it.

>> No.11610804
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11610804

Please.

No personal blogging.

>> No.11610806

>>11610800
There is. We just cant see it with API link.
I am pretty sure I am messing up tons of combo message in the ranking page.

>> No.11610807

>>11610793
Parlour Earth?

>>11610801
Thanks.
Take it easy, read the wiki. You will get in very soon.

>> No.11610810

>>11610802
Why are you wasting your beginner luck on mutsuki? Go craft a BB or CV.

>> No.11610814

>>11610753
What's the 13th one called?
And is it really going to take 1 hour for the ship creation tutorial?

>> No.11610816

>>11610814
Brunei Anchorage? Not sure though.

>> No.11610818

>>11610814
Brunei Anchorage
Just use the item to finish it instantly, there's no point in waiting 1 hour for what's most likely gonna be a DD

>> No.11610819

>>11610814
flamethrower it. There should be a button on the right....or just check the wikia? There's step-by-step instructions for the tutorial.

>> No.11610820

>>11610814
Brunei Anchorage.
The more you know.
Ahh, it's nice that people ask questions I can answer. It makes the time until next lottery go faster...

>> No.11610823

>>11610802
probably should save some development tools and resources when you're at a higher HQ level

>> No.11610824

>>11610818
I got Naka, is a light cruiser better than a dd for a tutorial tier ship?

>> No.11610821

>>11610820
We can talk about the ships you want to get anon so you can get hyped.

>> No.11610822

>>11610814
You'll find it a lot easier and more rewarding if you keep a tab for the wiki open and refer to it whenever the game tells you to do something unfamiliar.

>> No.11610825

>>11610824
Kantai no aidoru~~ Yeah it's better.

>> No.11610828

>>11610824
although any shipdaugther is fine, the wikia has list of more valuable ones.

>> No.11610829

To all of you who leaves 4 subs in pvp. Knock it off, reequipping my Yuubari and Isuzu is taking me a lot of time due to the equipment menu lagging.

>> No.11610830

Holy crap KTKM and Ooi with 2 guns are dealing more damage than my BBs. Cruised through E-4 almost unscathed, then compass sends me SW. Dammit.

>>11610824
You got lucky, getting a light cruiser this early. She'll help you out quite a bit in the early game.

>> No.11610831

>>11610824
Good job.
She is one of the 3 most sought after ships at the start. You just need to get her 2sisters now.

>> No.11610832

>>11610824
definitely, a light cruiser's gonna help you a lot when you just started

>> No.11610836

>>11610831
It took me 2 whole days of grinding 1-2 to try getting Sendai, I got like 5 Naka and 6 Jintsuu dupes instead

>> No.11610837

>>11610790
>>11610814
From 1 to 13: Yokosuka, Kure, Sasebo, Maizuru, Oominato, Truk Lagoon, Ringa (not sure what it is), Rabaul, Shortland (Shortland island), Buin, Tawi-Tawi, Palau, Brunei

>> No.11610840

>>11610836
Last Sister Syndrome.

>> No.11610842

What's the fastest way of obtaining fuel early in the game? I have like 500 fuel resource and 1k+ ammo and steel with 2k+ bauxites.

I only have access to World 1 and 2-1

>> No.11610844

>>11610837
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingga,_Malaysia
Basically all the servers are named after WW2 naval base. I wonder if they will add pearl harbor.

>> No.11610848

I will farm 2-4-A for Shimakaze.
Apparently she drops there, anyone have a better idea?

>>11610842
Run expedition 3-5 and try to get to the World 3.

>> No.11610849

>>11610842
By not playing too much.
daily quests should give you just enough fuel as compensation for the sorties you do early on.

>> No.11610851

>>11610842
Do dailies and spam Expeditions 3 and 5 maybe?

>> No.11610854

>>11610842

Expeditions 3 and 5 are best for resources even later in the game. At your level they are the best fuel ones.

>> No.11610855

>>11610848
You can do that, and its actually quite easy to get her there.

>> No.11610861

>>11610844
Right now I could see they'll add 'Singapore' or 'Guam', but 'Hawaii' seems bit too far.

>> No.11610862
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11610862

>>11610855
Thank you.
Yukikaze seems easiest for 3-1 boss farm.
But I need better planes for that ;_;

Well that can wait for time being.
Atago is olev.

>> No.11610863

>>11610849
How could I afford to do that when there's an event going on, and I stand a chance to get my first submarine.

>>11610851
>>11610854
Alright, thanks for the tip

>> No.11610865

>>11610862
Spam rare destroyer recipe. You will eventually need a sub as well.
Sub is highly recommended to make your life easier. Playing with sub is like playing with cheat.

>> No.11610868

>>11610863
You still have your 10 days, and you don't have to grind much on E1 anyway.

It is even easier than 2-4.

>> No.11610875

>>11610862
I can hear PANPAKAPA~N in my head just looking at that image.

>> No.11610876

>>11610865
I have..what 4 Imuyas.Extra 3 is for expeditions.
Only one Goya though.I need at least 2 more of her.

>Spam rare destroyer recipe
I can't do that.I need more Sanshiki's, I have 2 so far.I also need 6 +10 turbines and many more things.
And some resource for E3.

>> No.11610885

>>11610876
You really think spamming 3-1 will cost you less to get yukikaze?
3-1 is one of the worst troll compass in the game. I swear the chances of you being sent to the boss node is like 10%.

>> No.11610890

Been spending 4-5 days at E-3 without any rare drops. Someone please give me their Agano luck.

Farming for her is harder than clearing E-5/

>> No.11610896
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11610896

>>11610875
It is adorable right?
http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev/kcplayer.php?c=67v10

I love this line of her.

>>11610885
Eeeh?
I went there twice and ended up with a boss fight in both.

I can only get A as of now though.I expect she would drop at S rank.

>> No.11610894

What's the safe amount of resources to do E5? For the record I've spent 26k fuel 19k ammo and 28k steel at E4.

>> No.11610897

after the tutoial how long do i grind the first fight of sortie 1 for until i can take on the boss?

>> No.11610901

>>11610897
You should be fine if you have ~4-5 ships in your fleet.

>> No.11610904

How about making some effort to learn yourself instead of asking questions over everything?

>> No.11610906

>>11610897

You could always just, I don't know, try it? I mean, it won't hurt you in any way unless you're retarded and manage to lose your ships.

>> No.11610907

>>11610894
Are you doing the hard route or the easy route??
Easy route is subjected to troll compass.

>> No.11610913

>>11610897
Levels don't really matter, you just need quantity to complete 1-1

>> No.11610909

>>11610901
Okay, and anything in particular i should spend those free 500 tokens from registering my creditcard?

>> No.11610914

>>11610896
Yes. Such a bubbly girl.

>> No.11610919

>>11610909
How much is dock expansion or adding to your musu cap? I never checked.

>> No.11610920

>>11610907
I plan on bringing Haruna, Kongou, Mutsu, Kitakami, Ooi and Kumano. I guess that counts as the hard route? Would it be wiser to swap out Mutsu for one of the higher level DD's?

>> No.11610931

>>11610919
looks like the dock is 500?

>> No.11610932

>>11610920
>mutsu
Isnt mutsu slow?

All fast or all slow - straight line to boss 100%
2kongou and all fast - easy route with troll compass to NE

>> No.11610935
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>>11610914
And she is useful too.
She is relevant to one time sortie quests and a good CA.

>>11610920
People usually bring in Mutsu for boss kill.They usually have a CA there while chipping.

>> No.11610937

>>11610920
Won't Mutsu send you to the submarine route?

>> No.11610946

Okay, thanks for the input everyone. I guess Mutsu will sit this one out and I'll bring in Yuudachi instead.

>> No.11610951

>>11610946
If you have them people complement Yukikaze and Shigure very much.

>> No.11610953

>>11610931
I see, though if I had to choose between raising the ship cap and the docks I'd choose the ship cap since I try to take care of at least one of every kanmusu. I still don't have some of the rare ones and I'm already being forced to modernize every few sorties, it's quite annoying. Getting the docks saves you some buckets though, especially if you have ships to switch between but buckets aren't normally an issue outside of events. Anyway, just one admiral's opinion.

>> No.11610961

So why do people go back to E-3 to grind for rare ships? E-5 is pretty easy and I think has a better chance for rare ships.

>> No.11610958

>>11610946
Ehh, silly me. I forgot the main question which I asked in the first place, what amount of resources and buckets would be considered safe going to easy route?

Currently sitting on 22k fuel and 25k ammo/steel, 188 buckets.

>>11610951
My Yukikaze is only level 30, I wouldn't bet on her.

>> No.11610965

>>11610961
Some admirals are more equal than others.

>> No.11610968

>>11610961
E5 doesn't drop Hatsukaze.

>> No.11610972

>>11610961
How is E-5 pretty easy?
First node is easy. The second node is basically E4 BB node. Also that fucking NE compass

>> No.11610978
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>>11610961
>E-5 is pretty easy

>> No.11610985

I got Fubuki in factory. So much for not picking her as starter

>> No.11610988

Man fuck E3
I don't know why you guys all call it easy, unless you're all level 70+

>> No.11610995

>>11610988
Do you have repair teams equipped?

>> No.11610996

>>11610985
I still only have the single Fubuki I picked as a starter. She almost feels rarer than the rare ships.

>> No.11610998

>>11610988
Use good CV like Akagi/Kaga and not scrubs like 5th division.

>> No.11610999

>>11610988
People say E-3 is easy because they have high level carriers to demolish it. If you don't, then it wont be easy.

>> No.11611002

>>11610996
I only got her much later when I had almost all of the common ships.

>> No.11611003

>>11610985
Fubuki's pretty rare to me at least, I've gotten at least 5 of all the other starters(Inazuma, Murakumo, Samidare, Sazanami) but I only ever came across one Fubuki asides from my starter Fubuki

>> No.11611008
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>>11610999
This is my team. The main problem is that if the compass fucks with me, or if my team doesn't attack the boss, or someone gets crit, then the dents on my carriers means I have to use a shitload of buckets if I want to try again any time soon and have a decent chance of making it.

Also, I have a lot of green planes equipped, perhaps this is a mistake?

>> No.11611012

>>11610972
E5 is pretty short, you can still get compass fucked in E3, and I swear that I get better ships from E5 than E3.

>> No.11611018

>>11611008
Yes. Put green planes in the smallest slot. That's what I did, air superiority is easy to obtain. Although my CVs were decked out in Reppus and a Shiden Kai.

>> No.11611020

>>11611012
Eh really?
1BB 2CLT 2CV 1CVL is almost 100% boss node for E3 and easy S rank.

The problem with E5 is getting sent to NE and avoiding getting crit to red at the 2nd node. In E5 you also have the problem of surviving day battle without anyone hitting red.
Maybe I am just underleveled for E5.

>> No.11611031

>>11611008
You're going to do night battle in boss node.
Placing CVs as 1st will skip its first turn.

>> No.11611034

>>11611020
Really? I feel that the BB aren't as scary. Ooi and KTKM seem to hate them more than destroyers for some reason. Then again I'm going sparkle crazy so that's probably why.

>> No.11611038

>>11611008
Also try eqiupping your Atago for night battle, in my case it's always Shimakaze who kills the boss if it ends up in a night battle.

>> No.11611044

>>11611031
Perhaps. I should probably trade KTKM with Atago at least. I have Akagi at the top because crit magnet. Usually if I make it to night battle with the boss and my night battle ships are above orange, then there isn't too much of a problem anyway. It's just the huge resource drain - I may be able to take out the boss, but there's no way I can farm this shit at the moment.

>> No.11611054

>>11611008
I didn't have any problems with E-3 and my team was about 10 levels lower than yours, on average.I was running a similar set-up too. Try green planes in biggest slot for air superiority. People were mixed on red and blue planes, but I found that putting both was best. Other then that, just retreat if you go N and you should be fine?

>> No.11611058

>>11611054
Hmm, so it probably is mainly that I suck at choosing equipment. I get sent along the north route like 4 out of 5 times though.

>> No.11611065

Has anyone noticed particular patterns from your kanmusu? My Kongou almost always aims for the top most enemy ship of the weakest class. Haruna aims for the highest priority target other than the enemy flagship unless an enemy successfully hits a teammate before her turn then she decides to hit that. Yuudachi, Shimakaze, and Murakumo normally targets the enemy flagship.

>> No.11611066

>>11611058
Hmm. That might just be RNG, unless I'm missing something. I was running CVL - BB - CLT - CA - 2CV, and I was going south much more than north.

>> No.11611069

>>11611008
My setup is archived here: >>11602318

Similar levels, less CV/CVL-heavy

Less green, stack red, and try to craft higher tier planes.

>> No.11611071

>>11611065
Judging from my E-4 visit, 5th ship = 1st casualty

>> No.11611072

>>11611065
My Maya basically never gets hit and regardless of which ship I put in the 4th slot of my fleet, it's a +50% chance that it's going to be the target of an enemy crit.

>> No.11611083
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>>11611066
Could be dependent on the exact ships or weird shit like that. Given that they have requirements for 2 kongou class and such in the later maps.

Anyway, changing up my equipment seemed to help a bit, and I realized I was doing some pretty dumb things itemwise. At least I managed to kill her so that I can go to sleep. Getting Agano still seems impossible though, given that it took about 30 buckets and I only killed the boss about 4 times throughout my attempts.

>> No.11611084

>>11611034
Kitaooi position 1/2?
Most people have them at 5/6 to last hit boss.
I have my BB on top for the day phase shelling order, maybe I should swap that around.

>> No.11611091

>>11611065
I noticed everyone in the first E-5 node loves critting my Ooi to red after I just finished sparkling everyone. That shit happened three times in succession I'm starting to believe RNG has it out for me.

>> No.11611096

>>11611065
My Haruna never evades a cut-in. So much for good luck.

>> No.11611107

>>11611069
Ok thanks. Did you also retreat if you went north? And if you didn't, then you didn't have too many problems with line ahead when the sub came up?

Also, I guess now I need to decide whether to decorate my room with Akagi or with a tub.

>> No.11611126
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>>11611091
Shit happens, but sparkling has been mathematically proven to work, so keep at it.

>> No.11611141

>>11610837
Is there a way to check which server you're in?
Is it the number right beside your T level?

>> No.11611146

>>11610958
I spent something 13k fuel and 110 buckets. Just check wikiwiki's commen section on E-5 to get a feeling for how much resources people generally spend.

>> No.11611152

>>11611141
The characters under start game is one way.

>> No.11611165

Is E-1 really that easy?
Just finished it with full BB fleet lvl 3-11.
T-level 8

>> No.11611169

>>11611165
You just got lucky, I've been stuck on E1 for a week now.

>> No.11611170

>>11611165
E1 an E2 is for newbies

>> No.11611179

>>11611165
what's a T level?

>> No.11611192

>>11611179
Headquarters level.

>> No.11611203

>>11611126
And what of it's relation to the exact morale value? Does anyone have information if morale values of more than 50 noticeably affect ship performance?

>> No.11611207

>>11611192
Is it different from the level portrayed above the main screen or something?

>> No.11611219

>>11611207
That is the HQ level. It's also referred to as T-lvl but HQ level is the correct translation

>> No.11611226

>>11611219
So >>11611165 has a fleet full of BBs at HQ lvl8?
Wow

>> No.11611227 [SPOILER] 
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11611227

This guy.

>> No.11611229

>>11610988
>>11610999
>>11611170
Elevens are saying that if you beat E-3, you graduate from beginner admiral.

>> No.11611232

>>11611227
>lvl27
60k resources
how??

>> No.11611237
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11611237

You wanted that Hatsukaze from E-6? Took this guy nearly 200 sorties.

>> No.11611242

>>11611227
All those retreats due to getting red.

>> No.11611245

>>11611229
E-3 is a bit about luck. You can do it if Akagi is your only CV. Some people has no luck with CV drop. I only had 1CV which is Akagi when I beat 2-4. I only got my 2nd CV much much later.

>> No.11611247

>>11611237
>3 Agano in 200 tries
Well fuck me.

>> No.11611250

>>11611245
I mean can't*

>> No.11611281

>>11611107
Never retreated due to route, aside from getting compass trolled after the pre-boss node. Some of the nodes are supposed to have subs, but it's not guaranteed; I only encountered one SS over all of my runs which did piddly damage. Still think it's better to Line Ahead since it's easy to score OHKOs and dead enemies equal fewer attacks.

>> No.11611307

How is raising AA stat of carriers works?
I out only planes on them. Isn't it redundant?

>> No.11611312

>>11611307
*put

>> No.11611332

>>11611227
No seriously those resources. What dark magic did he use.

>> No.11611337

>>11611332
Hates money?

>> No.11611345

>>11611227
Did he really try to beat E4 with lvl1 fleet?
22 total hours?
These nips so crazy

>> No.11611355

>>11611345
Those are 2 separate guys. We have no idea how many tried it but only 2 pulled this off.

>> No.11611366

>>11611227
I don't care how they beat it, but getting Mikuma while chipping with subs + sacrificial ships is so wrong.

>> No.11611389
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11611389

What's a good equip setup for Isuzu? Pic related, my current one.

>> No.11611396

>>11611389
Empty
Empty
Empty

+ anti air stats for any other ship. Best Isuzu setup.

>> No.11611397

>>11611396
I don't get it, how does that kind of setup work

>> No.11611406

>>11611389
Replace the AA radar/sonar for a 10cm high-angle gun. Radars alone can't do anti-air.

>> No.11611409

>>11611389
You can get a good idea by looking at the combat mechanics page on the wikia. Generally anything works, depending on the map.

>> No.11611410

>>11611397
You feed her to any other ship because she's useless and ugly

>> No.11611414
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11611414

>>11611410

>> No.11611418

>>11611410
She's got nice anti air and sub but other than that yeah..

>> No.11611423

I just started today, and I keep getting wrecked by the carrier levels on 1-4. I have 1 heavy cruiser, 3-4 lights, and 1-2 destroyers. I equip an extra AA gun on 3 of them, and I use the cross formation. Each time I get to the carrier encounter they take 2 of my ships to red in the first volley. I'm around level 5 on my ships with my highest being 8.

>> No.11611425
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11611425

My first item craft and just got this.
What is this?

>> No.11611426

Depth charges, read the wiki.

>> No.11611429

>>11611425
You sell all the PVP people using subs?
Put this on your ship and rekt them.

>> No.11611427

>>11611423
Get more levels. Don't be afraid to do practice matches; you don't actually take damage in them, and they give great XP.

>> No.11611432

>>11611425
Depth charge projector or some shit like that. Anti-submarine equipment.

>> No.11611436

>>11611426
Wiki doesn't explain shit about the equipment images.

>> No.11611442

>>11611436
It does have images for the icons for weapon types. Match the kanji, you scrub.

>> No.11611444

>>11611436
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Equipment_List_(Image)
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Equipment

It's not hard if you try. The item images are listed in number order that they appear in the equipment page. Cross reference and find what ever you want.

>> No.11611446

>>11611436
The kanji, icon and stats are listed there. Use your brain sometimes.

>> No.11611447

>>11611436
The icon is there, dipshit. Stop treating this like your personal tech support, we made the wiki for that reason in the first place.

>> No.11611449

So I just got crafted a saiun, outside of submarine killing in pvp with higher probability of T-crossed advantage? Is there any reason why someone would purposely induced additional damage?

>> No.11611450

>>11611444
...you know, now that I think about it, I have no idea why we separate the pages between an image list and a stat list like wikiwiki does.

>> No.11611454

>>11611436
Welcome to /jp/, enjoy your stay.

>> No.11611455

>>11611449
Boss killing, but yeah, it's personal preference whether you want to risk by killing faster or risk by taking less damage.

>> No.11611456

>>11611449
please type that in your native language so we can laugh at you.

>> No.11611458

>>11611450
Probably because if we added full size images to the stat list, the unexpanded table would be nothing other than a straight line of images. Stupid wikia page formatting.

>> No.11611465

>>11611449
To make sure everything dies in one hit I suppose, remember those times that you failed to kill that ship with one shot? Saiun helps with those. There was also a time I tried to test double line + saiun to see if it had the same offensive power as line ahead without saiun but I got too lazy, maybe you could try that too.

>> No.11611468
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11611468

Today is a good day.

>> No.11611469

>>11611468
Where?
How?

>> No.11611471

>>11611468
Why is her bg like that?

>> No.11611476

>>11611471
crafting

>> No.11611477

>>11611468
>getting ZKMS
>on the day she was sunken

>> No.11611482

>>11611476
I see, thanks.

>> No.11611485

>>11611477
Damn, son.

>> No.11611490

>>11611477
Who are you quoting?

>> No.11611495

>>11611490
Everyone that was thinking of the same thing. Pretty ironic if you ask me.

>> No.11611496

>>11611490
>>11611495
>how is this a spoiler

>> No.11611505

>>11611477
Also, it's veterans day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Day

>> No.11611507

>>11611496
It's not, I wasn't calling him out for quote misuse but rather I was preempting tru/jp/sies from bashing him and asking them to be a little nicer without saying so. For some odd I thought using spoilers would get that through.

>> No.11611510

Do AA guns like the 25mm Single Gun and the 12cm 30-tube Rocket Launcher affect your ship's ability to do a double attack?

>> No.11611511
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11611511

>>11611510

>> No.11611512

>>11611510
/jp/ isn't your information counter. Is it that hard to spend 5 to 10 minutes taking a look at the Wikia?

Before you even reply "but it's not there!", you'd better take a second look.

>> No.11611517

>>11611512
Just confirming.

>> No.11611535

Can you play this game without understanding japanese?

>> No.11611536

>>11611535
no

>> No.11611542

>>11611535
Of course you can't. Everyone who says otherwise is lying

>> No.11611543

>>11611535
absolutely not

>> No.11611546

>>11611535
It's required.

>> No.11611548
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11611548

Would you Pocky with Fubuki, /jp/?

>> No.11611549

>>11611548
I would my Pocky in Fubuki.

>> No.11611551

>>11611548
I would Pocky Fubuki any time, any day

>> No.11611553
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11611553

>>11611548
I already have someone who would play pocky with me.

>> No.11611561

>>11611553
The chocolate coating will melt from her body heat, and then the T will have to lick it off. Genius.

>> No.11611565

Sooo, out of curiousity, any of you know somebody or have experienced having to enter the lottery 5-6 or more times before finally making it into Kancolle?

>> No.11611579

>>11611565
Got in on first try.

>> No.11611584

>>11611579
Same here.

>> No.11611590

>>11611579
>>11611584

...Oh great, now I am starting to feel the need to kick my own sub-optimal internet connection speed, which causes bigger problems when combined with VPN, for actively hampering my chances despite me following every instruction to the letter

>> No.11611591

>>11611565
Got in on my first try too, if you try during Japanese prime time (8pm~2am) you'll most likely get server full message, try during jp early evening (1pm~5pm), you'll have more chances since less people plays it.

>> No.11611592
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11611592

What is the logic behind 15.5cm for air support?

>> No.11611599

>>11611592
My best guess is used to higher the accuracy of carriers.

>> No.11611600

>>11611565

Took me a full week. Got in when they opened a new server.

>> No.11611605

>>11611591

So basically, do the lotteries that are held at 17:30 JP time instead of the ones at 2100 JP times to maximize chances? Aint that funny, almost all of the lotteries I entered were of that timing. I guess I am one of those cases of having extremely bad luck

>> No.11611607
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11611607

What's with all those pocky related images?

>> No.11611609

>>11611599
in that case why not just use land radars

>> No.11611610

>>11611592
Buffing fire power instead of small amount of planes.

>> No.11611611

>>11611607
It's pocky day.

>> No.11611617

>>11611610
sasuga japan
It is time to change all my CV loadout.

>> No.11611619

>>11611605
I got in without the lottery, around 3pm jst

>>11611607
11/11 = ??????

>> No.11611624

>>11611619

...Wait, you can get in WITHOUT a lottery?

Do tell me about this...

>> No.11611626

whenever I try to sorty, my ships move out and then use the sonar. But when it starts transitioning to a different scene directly after that my game keeps freezing.

>> No.11611628

>>11611626
>and then use the sonar?
What? Your game's having trouble with sub nodes?

>> No.11611629

>>11611626
Fuck off gaijin newfag.

>> No.11611631

>>11611610
I haven't seen mention of this on wikiwiki's support fleet page, wouldn't it make more sense for planes to be more effective in air support?

>> No.11611634
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11611634

Is this program legal?

>> No.11611638

>>11611634
Is that like an upgrade on sanaechan? It looks pretty good.

>> No.11611643

This has been happening for the last 10 runs already.
Someone send help

>> No.11611647

>>11611631
Ikkousen only, Gokousen's children with dinky firepower need not apply.

In all seriousness, though, while I haven't tried using 15.5 cm secondary guns, if normal sorties are of an indication, adding 15.5 cm in last slot does seem to work better than putting an attack aircraft there.

>> No.11611648

>>11611647
I usually put a land radar in there... do guns really improve CV's aerial attacks? Seems really funky.

>> No.11611651

>>11611634
Sauce?

Looks better than sanaechan. Is it one of those googlechrome add-ons or something?

>> No.11611653

>>11611648
I am pretty sure it improves shelling phase damage.
A fully modernized CV firepower definitely outdamage a normal non modernized firepower CV.

>> No.11611659

>>11611648
>>11611647
How about AA stat?
Does that affect plane efficiency?

>> No.11611663

>>11611659
It only affects how well you shoot down enemy planes.

>> No.11611664

>>11611647
> while I haven't tried using 15.5 cm secondary guns
while I haven't tried using 15.5 cm secondary guns in support fleets*

>>11611648
Yeah it does definitely improve shelling phase damage. Not quite sure about air combat phase, though.

>> No.11611668

>>11611663
But you don't put AA guns on carriers, so its irrelevant.
Thank you.

No need to max out their AA stat with modernization.

>> No.11611678

>>11611668
I'm pretty sure AA stats affect how well the fighters shoot down the enemy planes, though. Otherwise, using Reppuu should not have a noticeable impact on AA abilities vs using Zero, but there is certainly a difference there.

>> No.11611679

>>11611668
Well, there are people that actually makes use of green fighters for actual combat. It worked far better than I thought without sacrificing much power.

>> No.11611688

>>11611678
>>11611679
Well, I was going to make the exception of green planes.Didn't thought that was necessary.

However you usually put that in your smallest slot, for air superiority is usually easy to gain.So have a carrier dedicated for carrying green planes and max only her AA stat.

>> No.11611695

>>11611688
I usually put one Reppu on the highest slot. Dominates those CV nodes.

>> No.11611697

>>11611688
if you play long enough you'll have enough ships to raise the AA of your carriers anyway.

>> No.11611699

>>11611688
>However you usually put that in your smallest slot

If you hate bauxite.
If you don't it's better to put it in the biggest slot.

>> No.11611705

>>11611695
>I don't want alien planes buzzing around my daughters

Well that is a one way to go at it.
I approve.

>>11611697
I have 9 Isuzus to farm.
I don't have anything else to say.

>>11611699
I see your point.
Never thought it that way.
I'll take that into consideration.

>> No.11611710

>>11611628
No, this is during the tutorial. whenever my ships give off the sonar ping I assume to decide what's around or which way to go it just completely freezes.

>> No.11611734
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11611734

I swear the game knows exactly when to fuck with you.

If it isn't the first node forcing you to go back home it's this bullshit.

>> No.11611739

>>11611624
Try to enter the game around that time frame, you'll just enter without having to do the lottery, at least that's what me and a friend did and got in at the first try.

>> No.11611740

>>11611710
Switch browsers, clear your cache, update flash.

>> No.11611744

What happens when you fail an expedition?

>> No.11611747

>>11611710
Get better at English.
Get an education.
Get a job.
Pay for new hardwares.
Now throw that shit you own away.

>> No.11611750

>>11611744
That fleet has a 50% chance of sinking when you fail an expedition. The percentage increases with the difficulty of the expedition. At S rank, it's nearly a 90% chance of being sunk when you fail.

>> No.11611751

>>11611734
Brute force the straight line with slow BBs

>> No.11611755

>>11611739

This is after Kancolle decided to introduce lotteries right? Okay, I'll try it myself then, will do so at what passes as early morning in Japan and then at that timeframe, thank you~

>> No.11611758

>>11611744
You lose 50% of your accumulated resources and get locked out of sortieing for an hour.

>> No.11611773

Holy shit where did all these newfags come from. And why do they keep asking such shit easy questions that can be answered if they spent more than 1 minute trying things out themselves or reading the wiki. And why are they being spoonfed. This is far worse than personal blogging.

>> No.11611774
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>>11611751
I would but my Ise and Fuso are horribly underleveled compared to their sisters.

And Ooi could've finished it already but she's probably still mad at me for sinking her sister.

>> No.11611780

>>11611774
How did you sink ktkm?
Started the battle at red or orange?

>> No.11611781

>>11611773
If you don't like "shitposting", why do you even bother reading "blog" "generals" like "/kan/"?

>> No.11611790

>>11611740
I've switched browser but they won't run the game even after I update flash they ask me to update flash. And I've also tried clearing the cash.

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>> No.11611794

How in the fuck do you get a Furutaka? I'm lv48, and I spent 80% of my playing time grinding on maps she's supposed to drop on according to the wiki. I had multiple drops of literally every other CA. Can't progress on the squad quests because of this slut

>> No.11611796

>>11611790
API
Read the wiki about it

>> No.11611797
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11611797

Sasuga Japan

>> No.11611798

>>11611794
I got her at E1.
I know your pain.

>> No.11611799

>>11611790
>after I update flash they ask me to update flash
You're probably doing something wrong then. Try reinstalling it completely or use the flash projector.
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/updaters/11/flashplayer_11_sa.exe

>> No.11611803

>>11611794
Use battleship recipes for your dailies, she's going to show up sooner or later.

>> No.11611804
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11611804

Requesting translation check for this, will upload to imgur after fixes etc.

>> No.11611805

>>11611794
I got Furutaka while running E-1 or E-2

>> No.11611808

>>11611804
Whoops forgot original. http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=39685098

>> No.11611810

>>11611790
Clearing the cash? I see you hate money.

The game's telling you that it doesn't want your filthy presence defiling the shipdaughterus.

>> No.11611812

>>11611794
She was my first CA when I was just beginnning. I was gunning for Atago but I got her instead.

>> No.11611814

>>11611808
... I guess I'm tired. http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=39681575

>> No.11611820

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1i-dnAH9Y4
This might interest some of you. Fire control systems in warships.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_gun_fire-control_system
> The Aichi Clock Company first produced the Type 92 Shagekiban Low Angle analog computer in 1932. The USN Rangekeeper and the Mark 38 GFCS had an edge over Imperial Japanese Navy systems in operability and flexibility. The US system allowing the plotting room team to quickly identify target motion changes and apply appropriate corrections. The newer Japanese systems such as the Type 98 Hoiban and Shagekiban on the Yamato class were more up to date, which eliminated the Sokutekiban, but it still relied on 7 operators. In contrast to US radar aided system, the Japanese relied on averaging optical rangefinders, lacked gyros to sense the horizon, and required manual handling of follow-ups on the Sokutekiban, Shagekiban, Hoiban as well as guns themselves.
> This could have played a role in Center Force’s battleships dismal performance in the Battle off Samar in October 1944.[11] In that action, destroyers pitted against the world's largest armored battleships and cruisers dodged shells to within torpedo firing range, while lobbing hundreds of accurate automatically aimed 5 inch rounds on target. Cruisers did not land hits on splash-chasing escort carriers until after an hour of pursuit to close within 5 miles. Although the Japanese pursued a doctrine of achieving superiority at long gun ranges, one cruiser fell victim to secondary explosions caused by hits from within the range of carrier-based single "peashooter" 5 inch (127 mm) guns. Eventually with the aid of hundreds of carrier based aircraft, a battered center force was turned back just before it could have finished off survivors of the lightly armed task force of screening escorts and escort carriers of Taffy 3. The Battle of the Surigao Strait established the clear superiority of US radar-assisted systems at night.

>> No.11611821 [DELETED] 

>>11611820
Who are you quoting?

>> No.11611825

>>11611821
He's quoting the article, can we stop being so anal over the use of the quoting function?

>> No.11611826 [DELETED] 

>>11611821
#lel

>> No.11611830

>>11611821
The article?

>> No.11611835

>>11611826
Get the fuck out.

>> No.11611842

Free expansion to ships owned when?

>> No.11611845
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11611845

Wow, unexpectedly easy first run. Blasted her down to 50 hp in day phase and S ranked it in night phase.

>> No.11611848

>>11611845
Yeah, E-5 really is quite easy. The compass and the flagship nodes are the biggest hurdles.

>> No.11611851

>>11611845
Because you had to blogpost your fluke, the Goddess has awoken and will be cursing you for the rest of your urns.

>> No.11611855

>>11611851
You wouldn't even believe me if I'd say that I just went back from first node with 4 ships in red.

>> No.11611856
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11611856

>>11611845
You and me both.

Finally KTKM can rest in peace.

>> No.11611895
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11611895

E3, you're the best.

>> No.11611900

Tips for E2?

All I know so far is to not use more than 2 BB otherwise I'll be sent to submarine route.

So... All 4CA + 2BB or something like that?

>> No.11611910

>>11611900
4 BBs Kitakami and a Kongou guarantees that you will get to the preboss node.

>> No.11611916

>>11611848
I have as much problems as E4:
30 sorties, only reached the boss 7 times, sent to NE 6 times and the rest was critical out of nowhere in either node 1 or 2, leading to red zone.
And what's worse? Never dealt more than 180 dmg on the boss, either because of the trash or random miss.

I always push even with orange HP, but this map already ate me already 7K ressources and 68 buckets for not even a long bar of the HP boss.

And here I thought E5 wouldn't have this stupid crit festival issue, I guess RNG goddess just said nope.

>> No.11611918

>>11611910
Wouldn't that send you to submarine node though? I had bad experience with those subs because they do cut-ins and it hurts

>> No.11611921

>>11611916
I just gave up when I spent 10k and the bar wasn't budging at 80%.

>> No.11611924

What levels should thegirls in my fleet be before i tackle E-1? I just got into a server today, will i be able to grind enough to get iku before the event ends?

>> No.11611931

>>11611924
Most probably yes, once you're able to clear 1-4 you should be able to take E-1.

>> No.11611927

>>11611924
There's a page on the wiki specifically for the event with more than enough information to get you started.

>> No.11611942

Just when I have the E-2 boss health to a sliver, Compass-chan suddenly decided to keep sending me North.

Fuck you, Compass-chan. I have less than a few days left of this event. Don't make this harder than it has to be.

>> No.11611951

>>11611804
probably tweak sentence structure a tad so the emphasized part would be "just as strong", like "their equipment was just as strong as the navy's'". maybe make "navy" plural, given the mention of multiple nations' forces.

>> No.11611954
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11611954

>>11611895
RNG goddess at work.

>> No.11611955

any anons at high levels using hibiki?

>> No.11611961

>>11611954

I'm gonna use up all resources I'll have left to farm E-3 once I'm done with E-5.

Maybe, just maybe, Nagato will drop. I certainly have no luck crafting her and she's the ship I want the most.

>> No.11611964

>>11611955
Me, if you count level 30 as "high." She's pretty decent when you upgrade her. I put her in one of my one shot DD crew alongside KTKM.

>> No.11611967

>>11611237
did he meant E-3?

>> No.11611968

>>11611964
Did you use her for 1-4 and E1?

>> No.11611971

>>11611961
Does she drop at E3? I checked the jp wiki and it only has her at E5 boss.

>> No.11611972

>>11611955
Hibiki with level 41 here. She pretty does a decent amount of criticals for a destroyer which is even enough to take out an elite light cruiser.

>> No.11611975

>>11611968
1-4, yes but not E-1. I'm using her as backup DD for E-2 right now.

>> No.11611976

>>11611972
>>11611975
What classes the rest of the fleet alongside her?

>> No.11611984

>>11611972
Does this mean that I didn't waste my time grinding Hibiki? My highest level ship is a lvl30 Hibiki while my next highest is a lvl20 Isuzu.

Someone please tell me it wasn't for nothing!!

>> No.11611989

>>11611984
Read everything here
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Ship_Maximum_Status

Lurk forever

>> No.11611990

>>11611984
There is a level which requires a relatively high level destroyer only fleet, so no - you didn't waste your time.
Destroyers are cool and surprisingly fun in night battles.

>> No.11611991

>>11611984
Nice to know there are still teitokus that are lower leveled than me here.

>> No.11611998

>>11611984
All ship classes have their uses.

>> No.11611999

>>11611984
You didn't even know she has a second remodel at lv70?

And stop fretting over levels since later on they'll all normalize as long as you keep using the same ships.

Read the wiki while you're at it.

>> No.11612004

>>11611976
She's usually with her sisters plus Shimakaze and Yukikaze as my main destroyer fleet. Though I split them into two fleets when E-2 came with Hibiki partnered with Akatsuki, Yukikaze, Atago, Maya and Kitakami then Inazuma with Ikazuchi, Shimakaze, Takao, Furutaka and Ooi.
>>11611984
She's pretty decent. She's part of the fleet who got me through 3-2 with relative ease. Pretty good stats with her 2nd remodel too. Take a look at the wiki.

>> No.11612006

>>11611951
Thanks, I've changed it to "...their equipment was as strong as the navies’. Anything else? I posted on /a/'s thread and all I got was that it was bad without any explanation.

>> No.11612007

I'm playing quite casually and my ships are between 20 and 40. Should I attempt to reach boss node on E-3 for rare ship drops, or should I return to any of the previous ones and try for rare ships there instead?

I have a hard time telling if the RNG crits me as much in E-3 as E-2, or if either of them would be a more successful path to go.

>> No.11612010

>>11612004
Alright.

>> No.11612013

>>11612006
you're editing that? what is "Ja, es Ausfälle" supposed to mean?

>> No.11612017

>>11612013
The Japanese (English) counterparts are below the foreign text. I guess I forgot the quotation marks and the position of the text in that bubble was a little weird, I'll have to change that.

>> No.11612021

>>11612017
it was just confusing me since it's not correct, I got if for the bubbles in languages I can't read.

>> No.11612028

>>11612021
Err, explain?

>> No.11612041
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11612041

I'm okay with this.

>> No.11612047

>>11612028
the german isn't really correct and therefore doesn't match the english translation, though it's likely they wanted to say that and just got their german wrong.
"Ja, Ich starte!" or "Verstanden, Ich starte!" would be better german for this..

>> No.11612050

So I've just failed at completing E-5. I thought having 12k ammo would be enough considering that's all I used for E-4, but I really underestimated the ammo costs. Not only that, but I got really irritated at how my BBs underperformed, never killing an enemy and then getting crit in return. Feels frustrating knowing that I'll have to save up more resources to try again next week. Shouldn't have gotten cocky just because I beat E-4.

>> No.11612056

I'm 6 runs into E-4 and the enemy CA have torn me a new asshole 6 times.

This is going to be a long day.

>> No.11612058

>>11612041
I just got my 7th imuya. Already spent more than what I used for E-5. Why won't you drop already ughhhh.

>> No.11612060

>>11612047
Ah well, changing that would be kind of weird. It would probably be more appropriate to take it up with zepher himself.

>> No.11612074

>>11611971

Really? Fuck me then.

Eh, I'll guess I'll do it anyway. Maybe I'll get a Zuiho or something.

>> No.11612082

>>11612058
got 3 imuya while running 2-3 with my sub squad, dunno what to do with them.

>> No.11612097

>>11612050
On the other hand I've completed my Battleship recipe collection. Everyone is accounted for. It feels nice knowing that I won't have to a battleship recipe for a long time now. But carrier recipes. Those sicken me.

>> No.11612096

>>11612082
I wish I had known about the 2-3 fuel run before I used all my spare Imuyas as modernisation fodder.

>> No.11612140

Jesus, how tough is E5 boss. I've been to her 6 times now, killed her 2 times, damaged below half hp 3 times and one time left her slightly above half. Only took down two bars of the gouge. Does she regen extremely fast?

>> No.11612150

>>11612140
時間経過による自然回復:あり(1時間あたり2.1%)
ボス艦隊の旗艦へのダメージで漸減
旗艦破壊で17.2%減少(回復込みで最低6~7戦でクリアー可能)
戦力ゲージの破壊には旗艦の撃沈が必要
From wikiwiki.

>> No.11612163

>>11612150
I've looked into it before but I couldn't understand what these two mean:

>ボス艦隊の旗艦へのダメージで漸減
>旗艦破壊で17.2%減少

>> No.11612167

>>11612140
あり時間経過による自然回復:あり(1時間あたり2.9%)ボス艦隊の旗艦へのダメージで漸減旗艦撃沈で14.5%減少(回復込みで最低7~8戦)戦力ゲージの破壊には旗艦の撃沈が必要

2.9% regen, 14.5% per kill.

>>11612150
thats E-4 not E-5.

>> No.11612181
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11612181

I wonder how much resources I'll need to save up for E-6 to get Hatsukaze and Mikuma. The thought of returning to E-4 makes me shudder, but I really want Kumarinko.

>>11612167
Thanks for the correction.

>> No.11612187

One more question regarding E5, what the fuck is wrong with the formations in the boss battle? I chose vertical line, the battle starts with both of us in horizontal.

>> No.11612190

Should I still take along Type-3s for E-5 for those boss carriers?

>> No.11612198

>>11612187
Feel free to take a look at the combat page on the wiki

>> No.11612215

>>11612198
I did, now what? It tells nothing about it.

>> No.11612226

>>11612215
it's not that hard to understand, just ask yourself the question in which direction your ships are moving or test different formations.

>> No.11612237

>>11612226
There's literally fucking nothing written about formations changing after entering combat when you've already chosen them.

>> No.11612234

>>11612215
The answer is there.

>> No.11612243

>>11612237
because your formation doesn't change

>> No.11612259

>>11612243
But it obviously did. I entered with vertical, combat started in both fleets being horizontal.

>> No.11612262

>>11612237
Even if you see a horizontal line during battle, it's actually the vertical line formation you chose before battle, the perspective is just different.

no need to be mad

>> No.11612272

>>11612259
Pay attention to the fleet direction indicator in formation selection screen. Be amazed. I don't know why someone told you to look at the wiki, but there's no need to be upset.

>> No.11612280

>>11612259
Bring 6 throwaway DDs to an easy map and pick, say, double vertical line. Observe your formation when the battle starts.

>> No.11612315

Has Suzuya sucked for anyone else in E-4?

She's responsible for sending me back 80% of the time.

>> No.11612317

>>11612280
This. Now calm the fuck down and test things yourself.

>> No.11612324

>>11612315
as expected of that low luck

>> No.11612336
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11612336

As a new admiral, I'm glad I could at least claim Iku before the event ends.

>> No.11612342

>>11612315
Nope. The BBs at the front get hit more often for me.

>> No.11612343

>>11612336
Take good care of her, admiral. She's fairly easy to sink if you aren't experienced with submarine mechanics. Keep her in flagship spot until you do so.

>> No.11612360

>>11611607
Digging at something further back in the thread, but who does this one? I loved an earlier story about him and Nagato but never learned the author's name to search.

>> No.11612362

>>11612262
>>11612317
Swearing doesn't mean I'm angry. It's just usual for us slavs to swear constantly.

>> No.11612367

>>11612324
Most ships have about 10 luck. I doubt this has any effect seeing as high-luck ships like KTKM keep getting sent into red first.

>> No.11612371

>>11612367
For me even the first two spots doesn't save KTKM-sama from eating crits.

>> No.11612383

>>11612360
https://twitter.com/biri_EX/media
Ossan Teitoku is great.

>> No.11612400

>>11612383
Good man, much appreciated.

>> No.11612407

When should I take my girls to 1-4? they're all level 8 with fubuki at 9.

>> No.11612414

>>11612407
preferably when you have a few heavy cruisers

my Furutaka just sunk, time to light some incense

>> No.11612416

>>11612407
World 1 is about composition rather than levels. You can go at it when you have a couple of BBs/CVs/CVLs in tow.

>> No.11612431

>>11612416
>a couple of BBs/CVs/CVLs
You're joking right? It's easy even with a fleet full of DD/CL/CA.

>> No.11612432

>>11612414
>>11612416
Alright, only have Maya in terms of BB/CA so I guess it's time to grind 1-3.When grinding for exp/levels do you guys only take 1-2 ships or do you bring the full fleet?

>> No.11612434

My only aircraft carrier right now is a Chiyoda Kai, should I move on to world 2 now or grind until I get Akagi?

>> No.11612436

>>11612431
maybe he's the type that likes to completely stomp a level in triumph

>> No.11612473

>>11612431
Better safe than sorry, you know.

>>11612436
Only when there's a significant danger to the fleet. Though I guess clearing 2-4 with a level 55 average does qualify as overkill.

>> No.11612488

Just how hard is the sub route in E5? Do you just get instaraped there or can it be passed safely?

>> No.11612502
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11612502

I hope I don't sink this instantly on the first day

Everyone's talking about E-4 and here I am just only completing E-1, I feel so behind

>> No.11612506

>>11612502
Don't feel bad. I'm still at E-2. Almost done with it though, only need one successful sortie.

>> No.11612510

I've been wondering for a while now, is it worth remodelling subs?

>> No.11612513

How many runs would it take to complete E-3?
I've just completed E-2,and I wonder if throwaway
ships can be used there too like in E-2 with 2 BB and 4 lvl 1 DD to lower the map HP

>> No.11612519

>>11612513
I finished in 7; others have taken 30+

The throwaway strategy is for heartless shitty admirals. Clear it properly.

>> No.11612525

>>11612513
I did E-3 in like 4 hours, unlike the week I needed for E-2. But no throwaway ships, not sure why you'd want to use them there anyway.

>> No.11612541

>>11609236
So the anon that posted this and tested it. If you sit on this screen pre-boss engagement the boss's health will not regenerate. I engaged the fight a day and a half later and her health is unchanged.
If you need to take a break than get to the boss and just stop at the screen to let resources regen.

>> No.11612560

>>11612502
Don't feel bad. I feel bad putting my ships through this hell so I can get another ship to dote on while they get forgotten for a time.

>> No.11612563

Is it worth buying the dock keys?

>> No.11612566

>>11612488
Well I just went ahead and tested it since no one answered. If anyone's interested - don't even attempt going bottom, got 4 out of my 6 BBs damaged to red.

>> No.11612567

>>11610829
People are doing it for E-5, not to exclusively torment you.

>> No.11612571

>>11612567
So it's actually worthwhile?

>> No.11612575

>>11612541
Nice! Thanks for reporting back.

>> No.11612580

>>11612383
Just finished reading through all of his great kancolle stuff on twitpic but I couldn't find those two stories I saved involving Nagato outliving the Ossan. Are there others that aren't on here?

>> No.11612583

>>11612434
do whatever the fuck you want you fucking faggot
stop asking for instructions for how to complete the tutorial

>> No.11612593

>>11612541
Thanks for the information.

>>11612560
In all likelihood, people won't even use I-8 or Musashi all that much. There's no point risking your ships over a trophy that will eventually be craftable anyway.

I can see rushing into E5 if you really like Musashi's design or have enough resources/damage controls/fleet levels to clear it without breaking a sweat, but most admirals should consider whether the prospect of a rare but seldom-used prize is worth risking the precious shipdaughters who kept you company for months.

>> No.11612602

Doing E4. I've been finding that it's better to stack the triple 15.5cm secondary than 1 red one yellow on CA. When I run with 3x triple 15.5, I can get near guaranteed kill at the preboss nodes, whereas the cut-in can fail.

Moreover, I am starting to think that the damage done on the airfield boss is AA rating + dmg rating. This makes Maya more important than the kongous rolling 46cm...

>> No.11612607

>>11612602
Don't try to think too much into it, it's all luck

>> No.11612615

>>11612602
3 guns are better than 2 guns? how surprising.
And how do you fail cut-ins with 1 red 1 yellow?

>> No.11612616

>>11612563
Do you love your daughters?

>> No.11612618

Does anyone know if there's a viable chip strategy for E-5 boss bar aside from 4 subs? Something similar to haruna/kongo + 4 throwaways in E-4. Is it possible to run throwaways effectively in E-5 as well?

>> No.11612620

>>11612615
No. That's not what I meant. I just find that all secondary is better than 1 red 2 Yellow (cut-in). I am not sure if the accuracy bonus does stack, but that's what it feels like to me.

>> No.11612625

0/20 Turbine using 100/-/200/-, SS, and HQ 23. There goes my fuel for today...

>> No.11612626

>>11612620
1red 2 yellows isn't a cut-in setup, though

>> No.11612627

>>11612618
Probably not because boss battle starts with day battle.

>> No.11612628
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>>11612616
But of course. I'm afraid though once I start spending money on this game I'll find it hard to stop.

>> No.11612630

>>11612626
bah. meant to say 1 red 1 rellow. I was running 1 red 1 yellow 1 torp actually.

>> No.11612655

>>11612628
The only things worth buying are docks, emergency repairs and furniture tokens. It's hard to regret buying any of those three, and they are fairly priced.

Resources are a complete ripoff and there's no chance you'll be drawn into buying those.

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>>11612655
Try saying no to this when the E5 boss meter is empty but you're out of fuel.

>> No.11612676

>>11612580
I'm not sure. I'm on my phone at the moment but have you tried checking to see if he has his stuff posted anywhere else?

>> No.11612709

>>11612666
See >>11612541

>>11612676
This is what I'm asking about, sadly. I haven't been able to find his stuff posted elsewhere, yet I know it's out there someplace because we've seen it. Only place I can turn to for pointers is here.

>> No.11612723
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11612723

Finally i can assemble the force.

>> No.11612730
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>>11612723

Heh.

>> No.11612734

>>11612723
That's awesome.
semi related question, when you guys get a new daughteru and your main fleet is already in the 10+ level area, how do you guys level her up?

>> No.11612740

>>11612734
you force her to tag along

>> No.11612741
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11612741

Oh my god the only ship I really want is Tenryuu and all I get is destroyers. I just hit the 100-ship cap while grinding for her. Fanart of her is what got me interested in the game in the first place.

>> No.11612745

>>11612741
I got 6 Tenryuu's who I don't want but 0 Kuma's who I want for the same reason you want Tenryuu.
;;

>> No.11612747

>>11612741
>>11612745
You're too impatient. Take it easy and you'll get them in droves. It's not like you're looking for a crane.

>> No.11612748

>>11612741
>>11612745
I got both of them on my first day, and still getting Tenryuus once in a while

>> No.11612751 [DELETED] 

>>11612734
Place her in the flagship spot. Both the protection from hits and the 1.5x experience multiplier are great for leveling new ships.

Level 10+ is not that big an issue, your A-team will likely start forming around level 30-40 and small experience differences don't matter much at that stage. After that, your main fleet's levels tend to stay around each other, unless you swap out one to include a new, rare ship (like a Nagato-class) that you've recently gotten.

>> No.11612759

>>11612734
>>11612740
More accurately, she forces everyone else to tag along as she leads.

>> No.11612760

>>11612734
Place her in the flagship spot. Both the protection from hits and the 1.5x experience multiplier are great for leveling new ships.

Level 10+ is not that big an issue, your A-team will likely start forming around level 30-40 and small experience differences don't matter much at that stage. After that, your main fleet's levels tend to stay around each other, unless you swap out one to include a new, rare ship (like a Nagato-class) that you've recently gotten.

>>11612741
I started hunting for Makigumo at level 48. I am level 68 now, and I still don't have her. Hopefully the E1 grind will change that.

>> No.11612767

>>11612760
Not to mention the higher chance of MVP due to turn order for certain phases.

>> No.11612773

>>11612759
>>11612760
Thing is, I got both Yuudachi and KTKM within 1 minute of eachother and I want both of them in my main fleet at later stages should I do as you say but 1 of them at a time or just make a new fleet?

>> No.11612798

>>11612666
So is the empty meter stopping regen been debunked?

>> No.11612801

>>11612773
Kitakami is more than capable of holding her own once you get her first remodel and equip her with a midget submarine. In fact, many admirals have either Kitakami or Ooi as their highest (or second-highest, if they favor a particular ship as their secretary) level ship, mostly because their high-damage pre-emptive torpedoes allow consistent MVPs against many maps and almost all 1-ship PvP fleets.

It would be ideal to place Yuudachi at your flagship spot and allow Kitakami to level slowly, since she'll catch up very rapidly once she gains her remodels.

>> No.11612804

>>11612798
It was just a couple of horribly mistaken admirals who thought that. It was stated multiple times in these threads that the meter does not stop regenerating.

>> No.11612806

>>11612801
Got it, Thanks ~!

>> No.11612809

I think these E-4 CAs are going to give me PTSD.

>> No.11612810

>>11612809
The only thing that should trouble you is the boss, since you have to kill her. The rest can be overcome by trying often enough, but if you don't have the necesssary luck to kill her you won't get ahead.

>> No.11612811

>>11612809
Friendly reminder they're going to fuck you up 90% of the time, every time.

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>>11612315

>> No.11612814

>>11612810
This. I've put the boss to near a 1/3 of her bar and yet to get one kill. I'm worried I just might be able to do it frankly. All my ships target everything else but what I want.

>> No.11612818
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11612818

My Tatsuta must be so lonely.

>> No.11612819

>>11612811
It's about 70% of the time right now.

>> No.11612844

>>11612804
Ah I think a lot of us saw it in the wiki and that probably contributed.

>> No.11612862

Traded a Lv83 KTKM-sama (with her 2 15.5cm + midget sub) for a lv1 Musashi...
This event got the better of me...

I think I became a demon...

>> No.11612875

>>11612862
KTKM is a common
Musashi is gone after the 20th
You did well

>> No.11612878

>>11612862
I hope you can still enjoy your ineffective cost bloat while the deep sea fleet is disassembling your precious daughter alive.

>> No.11612881
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It disgusts me how so many of you neglect to take a good care of your torpedo goddess. Shame on you.

>> No.11612902

>>11612878
>>11612881
She was the 2nd one I sent to the bottom of the ocean... (last one was during late-August *hint*). I want to say I'll take good care of the next ones but...
Even worse: I don't even plan to actually use Musashi outside practice exercises.

I feel like the worst scum on Earth.

>> No.11612903
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11612903

Another day, another Hibiki. I'm gonna take a nap and try again later.

>> No.11612925

Has anyone figured out what formation is best once you have 4 subs?

>> No.11612934

>>11612881
I don't really care actually, I get enough of her to replace them anyway.

>> No.11612936

>>11612925
In this vein I'd like to know what level people attempted the subs at for E-5 right now I'm leveling them while gathering fuel so it's not a big loss, but I'm curious if they all need to be 50 or what.

>> No.11612937

>>11612902
you disgust me

>> No.11612943

>>11612925
The first one works well for offense and evasion, I think it's the default formation when you have less than four in a fleet.

Of course, I tried going into E5 and I-58 went red from the first destroyer...

>> No.11612944

>>11612925
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_How_to_Play#Going_on_a_Sortie

Pick the one that you think fits the situation.

>> No.11612957

>>11612936
>>11612925
http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/34739248.html
Double torpedo and first formation all the way if I read correctly

>> No.11612997

I remember when games were fun.

This event is not fun.

>> No.11613010

Yuubari or Isuzu? According to the wiki Yuubari's stats are slightly worse however she has 4 slots at level 20.

>> No.11613019

>>11613010
Both.

>> No.11613029

>>11613010
Read the wiki's damage formulaes and decide for yourself.

>> No.11613031

>>11613010
Preference. All ships within a class are generally interchangeable. Sure, one or two ships might stand out and second remodels might help massively, but there are few things that a level 80 Isuzu can do that a level 80 Yubari can't.

Just go with whomever you like.

>> No.11613033

>>11613019
I already have KTKM though and I want to stay at 2 CLs

>> No.11613042

>>11613010
Isuzu because her ASW is outstanding.
AA is ok.
Yuubari is too all-rounder for her own good even with 4 slots.

>> No.11613043

>>11613033
You need them both as submarine killers later.
Yuubari can stack 4depth charges while Isuzu has the highest ASW stats.

>> No.11613057

>>11613033
You need a more for expeditions and sub-killing.

>> No.11613076

>>11613042
Yuubari with 4 ASW equips hits harder than Isuzu Kai 2 with 3 ASW equips, even when the Yuubari is 20 levels lower. ASW stacking makes Yuubari the best ASW fighter in the game.

>> No.11613092

>>11612997
I remember when events were optional.

Oh wait, they still are.

>> No.11613113

>>11613092
Only if you're a scrub

>> No.11613124 [DELETED] 

>>11613092
There is no logical argument you can make to defend the garbage RNGfest this event is. It's literally rolling dice with music attached to it. Kill yourself.

The only reason people put up with it is because they've already sunk so much time into this shit and they don't want their effort to go to waste.

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>>11613124
Rolling dice is fun.

>> No.11613146

>>11613124
Being bad at flash games is a lousy excuse.

>> No.11613147

>>11613124
It's attitudes like this that make me really ashamed to play video games. Did it ever occur to you that you should take a break at some point?

I can't imagine you're this bitter unless you've just been playing non-stop since the launch frowning the whole time. The whole game is rolling dice with music attached.

I guess I'm glad I didn't have huge resource pools, maybe I just would have spent all day making myself miserable to beat some other people to the end of an event I hate.

>> No.11613150

>>11612502
Put her as the flagship, duh

>> No.11613155

So the expedition quest doesn't count launched expeditions until the it comes back, huh. That's annoying.

>> No.11613160

>>11613155
Yes because only successful expeditions count.

>> No.11613166

>>11613124
I dont like playing easy game.
E4 is beatable, many people have cleared it. There are even 2confirmations of lvl1 fleet beating it.
What is your excuse? Too normal and too busy partying? Not enough time?

>> No.11613169

>>11613124
You say that as if only the event is plagued with RNG.

>> No.11613177 [DELETED] 

>>11613147
Take your shame to reddit you faggot.

>> No.11613181

>>11613166
Working on my bot
http://pastebin.com/xWrAY1M8

>> No.11613185

>>11613124
>It's literally rolling dice with music attached to it.

I always think it's funny how people always bring this shit up, as if everyone enjoying the game was somehow fooled into thinking that Kancolle was a intricate game of strategy and naval tactics. It's a flash based browser game, everyone knows it's repetitive shit with cute girls. It's mindless fun. Take it easy.

>> No.11613188

>>11613181
>Constantly runs and repairs a solo ship in fleet 3 through 2-3 repeatedly.

Why not do it with a team at 3-2 with sub as flagship?

>> No.11613198

>>11613181
>shutsugeki_chuu
u fuggin nerd. im gonna beat u up when this deletes my win32 folder.

>>11613188
because your ships will sink when they get crit by torpedos.

>> No.11613196

>>11613188
The torpedos can still hit (and kill) things that aren't the sub unfortunately

>> No.11613203

>>11613196
>>11613198
If you can set it to repair, you can repair check the whole fleet before sending out. Why would any ships sink with full hp?

>> No.11613204

>>11613181
Better add a Random, rand, 7000, 8000 or a dozen in there before the banhammer.

>> No.11613207

>>11613177
It's not like I'm ashamed of it because of sexism or people being mean. I guess I'm more ashamed because I could potentially be that worthless faggot. I'm ashamed of the potential me that guy represents.

>> No.11613210

>>11613203
Can definitely do that and I'm working on it actually, but it's still under testing. Don't want to run it overnight and wake up one day to find everyone but Imuya dead.

>> No.11613212

>>11613181
>This script relies on mouse coordinates. Therefore you MUST be running this in 1366 x 768 resolution through the api-link
Not using relative coordinates? What the fuck are you doing?

>> No.11613218

Needing to bot in a game like this...

Wow really people?

>> No.11613220

>>11613212
It uses relative coordinates but AHK goes by the browser window size

>> No.11613234

>>11613218
You're posting in a site that encourages piracy and exploitation. You should've expected something like this would show up eventually.

>> No.11613236

>>11613185
Breaking news, idiots take the game seriously and get mad when they rush. Some ragequit and sink everything they have.

Even though there is advice to take it easy.

>> No.11613246

>>11613236
That's their problem. No one fooled them into thinking this was Europa Universalis here. It never claimed to be much more than a cheap flash game trying to squeeze money out of users with lots of randomness, it's their fault for getting mad if they expected otherwise.

>> No.11613251

>>11613246
Exactly. But it happens when a game slowly becomes more popular and more Types of people start playing

>> No.11613253

>>11613251
I've seen a complete thread of this on fucking Dota forums, when using google.

>> No.11613256

Uwaaah, final run for Musashi, everythings ready and sparkling, I'm so exited my hands are shaking. I guess I'll blog about this if nothing goes wrong.

>> No.11613257

>>11613253
Wait for the anime to air then you'll see the floodgates of shit open full force.

>> No.11613258

>>11613257
Nah, they won't bother going through the lottery.

>> No.11613264

>>11613256
Why don't you live stream it and contirnue without realizing that KTKM is in the red?

>> No.11613268

>>11613258
They can always go Secondary. Look at toohoo.

>> No.11613269

The wiki says not to modernize until after you remodel, but I can't even beat 1-3 with my team.
It bothers me when I read that other people who got in on the same lottery I did already went through the first stage of the event map.

>> No.11613276

>>11613256
See you in NE

>> No.11613279

>>11613269
That guideline is for leveling ships later. You want your mains to be fully modernized at all times.

>> No.11613287

>>11613279
> fully
Well, at least for firepower and armour.

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>>11613264
You have no idea how happy I am right now. I've started this event ~T-level 45 without expecting to even do E4 since my highest level ships were CVs and BBs at level 60.

Ended up at T-level 66 with a bunch of new ships leveled to 70+, while my Kitakami has even reached level 87. Ant most importantly, not having a single loss besides a few damage control items. I could go on and on rambling because of how exited I am right now.

>> No.11613299

>>11613292
How much money did you hate?

>> No.11613302
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This game would be too easy...

If only support fleet came in...

>> No.11613303

>>11613292
Grats. Post some resources/buckets expended, equipment used, etc in the name of science.
By the way
> exited
you keep doing this.

>> No.11613305

>>11613302
Did you sparkle at least the supporting fleet's flagship?

>> No.11613309

>>11613305
It was at no fatigue, but I'll be sparkling everything from this point on to get that golden run in as I still had life bar remaining on prior runs

>> No.11613310

>>11613279
Well, that explains why I seemed to have hit a wall.

>> No.11613311

>>11613253
I don't see what's the problem with discussing kancolle on an appropriate board in PlayDota. Am I only supposed to play kancolle and nothing else?

>> No.11613319

>>11613309
I mentioned sparkle because you said your support fleet didn't show up. Sparkling support fleet's flagship almost (or does it completely) guarantee the support fleet to show up. Did I misunderstand your posts?

>> No.11613315

>>11613292
How did you manage sparkle ?
Both fleet ? support / main only ?
For each run, or only the final one ?

I think that might be the thing that's I'm missing.

>> No.11613316

>>11613311
Saying that it's really spread.

>> No.11613324

>>11613319
No, you're right, it didn't show up because I was too lazy to sparkle everything only to get ships crit to red on pre-boss nodes, so I'll be trying that now

>> No.11613320

>>11613303
Not him but I started on October 5th, cleared E4 and is currently stockpiling resources for final Musashi run.
This event is definitely doable by newbie teitoku.
I was one of those few people hoping for an extension but it seems that having high lvl ships isnt actually a requirement.

>> No.11613331

Do the consumption of fuel and ammo get better later on? I only started today, already hated some money to buy fuel and ammo and I'm out of it already and my quests require stages I cant clear so I have no income other than waiting right now.

>> No.11613338

>>11613331
Don't hate money for resources; only buy extra docks and then maybe repair crew/goddesses or furniture if you so desire. Simply wait and complete expeditions for more resources, as spending money for resources is hugely inefficient.

>> No.11613343

>>11613331
>already hated some money to buy fuel and ammo
My sides. Admiral, you're supposed to buy repair docks and additional kanmusu slot with your money. Leave resource gathering for expedition fleets.

>>11613320
I was poking at how you keep on misspelling excited. And I'm fully aware that you don't need some ridiculously leveled fleet for the event. I'm the T who posted about his sub-50 fleet beating E-4 yesterday after all.

>> No.11613347

>>11613338
>>11613343
My expedition fleets are draining my fuel and ammo like crazy though, My main fleet is costing me like 600 an hour or so.

>> No.11613348

>>11613320
Don't really need high level ships for much, just luck to beat the rng gods and the resources to force your own luck.

>> No.11613352

>>11613331
1) Get nakachan and her sisters
2) Beat 2-4
3) Grind 3-2 to get kongou and her sisters
4) Get a sub
5) Farm 2-3 24/7 with a sub

Never sortie with more than 1BB when you are grinding. They are resource hogs. The only map where you might need more than 1BB at the start is 2-4. So beat 2-4 ASAP to get to 3-2.
Do expedition 2, 5, 9 & 13. Dont craft too much, just do enough to complete your daily.

>> No.11613353

>>11613347
> My expedition fleets are draining my fuel and ammo like crazy though
I think you're talking about sortieing, not expedition. Read the wiki. Expedition fleets are supposed to make ~200 fuel an hour, running expedition 5 and 9.

>> No.11613360

>>11610165
What's the benefit of using a type-91 shell over a 15.5 yellow gun? I can't find a good use for this ammo.

>> No.11613358

>>11613353
No i mean expedition, my flash keeps going unresponsive while I play, and whenever I come back every single time the entire fleet has 0 fuel 0 ammo and it costs 150 of each to refuel the fleet this is while attempting exp 5. Is it intended that this happens if you close the game while on an expo?

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>>11613299
None actually, I don't even have additional repair slots unlocked yet.
>>11613303
Woops, sorry, English isn't my native language, stuff like that tends to happen when I'm overflowing. Here's my autism chart for E5. Didn't even take all that much compared to E4.

After I lost my third damage control I removed every damage control left and equipped the listed equipment. Relied only on being sparkled. Also had a support fleet for every single run, referenced from here >>11611592 With the only difference being that one CV had a Type 33 radar.

>>11613315
Only sparkled the main fleet.

>> No.11613365

>>11613358
Maybe you should learn the difference between 失敗 and 成功? And then read the wiki

>> No.11613367

>>11613358
Anon please. Use the correct fleet composition. It seems like you're failing the expedition which is resulting in your loss of the fleet's supply: I haven't failed an expedition in a while so I can't remember if the expedition-failed fleet's supply bottom out or not, but that's the only reasonable explanation here.

>> No.11613370

>>11613352
Farming 2-3 with a sub until map clear, or F5's after fuel nodes?

>> No.11613374

>>11613367
He's probably also sending BBs out

>> No.11613376

>>11613363
> stuff like that tends to happen when I'm overflowing
How lewd. Are you overflowing with Musashi's fuel?

>>11613370
I use 4 subs so I go for map clear to complete for the weekly quest as well. F5 would be ideal for gathering resources, though, as long as you're okay with risking getting banned.

>> No.11613378

>>11613370
Until clear
Only 1st node has shit that fuck up your sub.
I have been running triple sub on 2-3 since I got Iku and I dont remember the last time I have to retreat or lost.
Doing your 5boss daily with subs is highly efficient. I have been gaining 5k fuel/day now.

>> No.11613379

>>11613365
Sadly when I start the game again I dont even get the message with "success" or "failure" so knowing what they mean wouldnt matter.
>>11613352
Thanks for the advice but sadly I can't even beat 1-4 yet and I dont have any resources to farm 1-3 for the comp to clear it

>> No.11613406

>>11613379
Well, I think you're doing well if you started today and already did 1-3.

>> No.11613411
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SOON.

>> No.11613417
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The stock plane on Musashi. Still not worth using over regular equipment isn't it?

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11613424

Is Dioxin still doing those pun things?

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>>11613302
And we're done. ~100 buckets used, ~12k steel, 10k ammo, 13k steel used up on E-5.

E-5 was intimidating at first, as it may be difficult to deal damage to the boss initially, but persevere through it and you'll eventually finish the stage. Only one repair crew used, but I wanted to be safe rather than sorry.

Good luck to everyone else who is still planning to clear E-5.

>> No.11613453

>>11613443
How safe is it to advance to night battle with red ships?

>> No.11613456

>>11613453
From my experience, they can be targeted but somehow the enemies just did "miss" or negligible damage.

>> No.11613459

>>11613453
It isn't. Lost damage controls that way.

>> No.11613460

>>11613456
That is what I am thinking as well.
I believe they have sinking protection but still better be safe than sorry. I have been keeping a few spare Ooi/Ktkm just in case.

>> No.11613461

>>11613453
I did it maybe 6 or 7 times and haven't had them go down, so I'm pretty confident in taking one or two ships into night battle. If you have more, then I would advise backing out, as it's unlikely you'll deal much damage with only your remaining ships attacking.

My one repair crew was used up in a day battle against the boss on Haruna; I decided to go into night battle regardless and panicked when a cut-in popped up to attack Haruna. Luckily, it missed.

>> No.11613464

>>11613443
Did you do E-4 with the same fleet? How much was the cost of both E-4 and E-5 in total? How long did it take you to do each map? Currently building resources for E-4 for this weekend, and I'm not sure if I'll have enough time/resources for E-5 after it.

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>>11613464
Not the anon you're asking, but maybe this will help.

My E4 run was really horrible, so add it with resources listed here >>11613363 and you'll have a really safe point.

>> No.11613475
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>>11613464
This is my E-4 clear; I took turbines over damage control as the boss stage only counts as one 'phase' for the Night>Day battle whereas E-5 boss is two 'phases' for Day>Night. Equipment for the most part is the same, except with mini-subs on Kitakami/Ooi for extra damage on E-5 Boss day battle and damage control. One radar is used to reduce ammo loss on whirlpool node.

E-4 took about 4-4.5 hours, and E-5 took 5-6 hours. The costs were roughly the same, 12k/10k/9k vs 12k/10k/13k fuel/ammo/steel for E-4 and E-5 respectively. I guess I had Kongou/Haruna crit more often on E-5, resulting in the higher steel costs. I'd definitely prepare 20-25k of each resource to be prepared, even though it may take you less; as you really, really want to avoid running out of resources while trying to finish the boss off for the clear.

>> No.11613486

>>11613475
Oh, you're the guy I copied my load out for E4 runs from. I didn't even expect to finish E5 before you did.

>> No.11613498

>>11613486
I'm glad that my experience could be of use to you. I wanted to float 25k fuel/ammo/steel before starting E-5 after incurring losses from tackling E-4.

>> No.11613505

>>11613475
Thanks for the info, Yeah I'm always worried of RNG screwing me over, and try to over prepare for maps. Ended up using like 100~ Buckets and about 7k fuel/ammo and around 4 hours on E-3 because of random crits before the boss.

>> No.11613509

>>11613443
Every E5 clear I've seen has the 2 torp sisters in the fleet. I'm a bit worried since I only have a 80 ktkm. I also only have 1 CA (60 mogami). Do you think I'll need to level my ooi? Or just roll with yuudachi/isuzu, 73 and 69 respectively?

>> No.11613516

>>11613509
It is recommended to have 2 of them because E5 boss node starts out during the day.
With 2preemp torpedo and air support you can wipe out half of the enemy before the battle start.

>> No.11613519

>>11613509
Kitakami/Ooi are highly desired due to their incredible torpedo statistic. Apparently it's been discussed that base torpedo stat factors into night damage even with the use of guns, so Kitakami/Ooi are highly preferred over anything else.

If your Ooi is severely underlevelled and you don't think you can make it past her level 50 remodel and beyond, then it's probably a better idea to simply roll with what you have; whereas if she's relatively close to 50 then it may be worthwhile to raise her up to 55+.

>> No.11613528

>>11613516
>>11613519
Damn, not the answer I wanted to hear. What I'll probably end up doing is trying E5 now and if they rape me too hard, attempt to level ooi for the last push next week. Thanks.

>> No.11613558

>>11613461
Cut-in attacks don't miss so it wasn't luck, it just can't sink going into night battle at red. read
>>11608870

>> No.11613567

Oh man, we're already on the halfway mark and I'm still stuck on E-2. I want to at least clear E-4 but my resources and terrible luck might not let me. Should I really take it easy at this point?

>> No.11613573

>>11613558
Abyss Fleet saboteur detected. Send the MPs.

>> No.11613592

>>11613558
Maybe you misread that anons post but red hp ships are forfeit whenever the game gives you an option to pursue battle, whether it be a new node or night battle.

>> No.11613610

>>11613592
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Scn-eOYqNE
Just search 艦これ轟沈 and find me one video of a ship sinking without node change

>> No.11613611

>>11613592
Not that anon but I am starting to believe that if you start the day battle at green with no fatigue, it is 100% safe to pursue night battle even if it became red.

>> No.11613624

>>11613611
The underlying theory is that if your ship is fatigued, it is easier for them to take a critical hit. It takes a real critical hit for your ships to sink. If it's a scratch damage when your ship is at 1/X, it'll be reflected as a miss.

It's not that your ships aren't sinking at red when you advance to a new battle, it's just that they're lucky in taking only scratch damage which can't sink them.

>> No.11613635

>>11613624
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSRPAxBovP4
I'm sure the 3 cut-in attacks at orange fatigue happened to be scratches. Same thing with all the other videos

>> No.11613677

>>11613635
Actually sinking, even if you enter a new node at red, is fairly rare.

DDs also seem to have some innate resistance to cut-in attacks. They routinely take only single target damage. Doesn't seem to be tied to evasion stat either, since my Kongo 2 with +10 boiler has around the same evasion as a DD and twice the armor, but still gets hit for 40-60 damage regularly.

>> No.11613678
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Do the different colors mean anything?

>> No.11613681

>>11613678
Rarity and remodels.

>> No.11613749

Anyone got rare DD's from E2? I'm not sure if that place is worth trying to farm.

>> No.11613754

>>11613749
E2 ? wikiwiki said E1 (boss) also drop rare DD

>> No.11613803

E-4 clear blog

Took 13 hours, 11590 fuel, 10487 steel, 3771 ammo, 94 buckets, and 0 emergency repair.

It took 45 attempts with 10 attempts reaching the boss. I sunk the boss on the first attempt and the last two. Her health bar actually wasn't even depleted on the last attempt and I pushed with three ships in orange and one ship in red.

I didn't shine my ships or use a support fleet but I did wait for their fatigue to clear every time.

Suzuya lv47, Yuudachi lv58, Yukikaze lv45, Kitakami lv71, Ooi lv74, Hiei lv57, Haruna lv71 all contributed. Standard equips that everyone has seen already with three sanshiki on the sink (Yuudachi left out). Really, if you have a Yukikaze with some levels, put her in your fleet. Her outstanding performance for multiple admirals is no coincidence.

>> No.11613816

>>11613803
How many percent of this is a product of your fantasizing?

>> No.11613819

>>11613803
How the fuck did you only use 3771 ammo. I just started running E4 an hour and a half ago and ive used up 1.8k already.

in 14 fucking runs i've only reached the boss once. fucking once. and i nearly killed it too. Fuck this gay earth.

>> No.11613837
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>>11613816
What part of it is so unbelievable?

>>11613819
I ran expeditions 2 and 5 the entire time. Most of the time my fleet was either 2DD, 1CA, 1CT, 2BB or 2DD, 2CT, 2BB. The final sink was 1CA, 1DD, 2CT, 2BB.

>> No.11613845

>>11613837
Its not luck anon.
The only people not finishing E4 are people that are too wuss to continue with oranges.

>> No.11613848
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I just got this while crafting, I wanted a Shimakaze or submarines but I guess this is good too

>> No.11613851

>>11613837
Nice shop.

>> No.11613853

>>11613845
16 runs in. The only time i retreat are Red.
10 retreats, 5 SW's . 1 54/500 boss.
i dont deserve this

>> No.11613869

>>11613845
If there's something I learned it's that you need to suck it up and risk those emergency repairs if you want any chance of reaching the boss. If only one ship is red before the boss, you should push. The ships at the boss aren't as scary as the two nodes before it anyway.

>>11613851
Thanks bro, I take pride in my shopping skills.

>> No.11613875

>>11613848
Congrats. What recipe dd you use? 250/10/200/10?

>> No.11613898

>>11613819
It doesn't cost a lot of ammo to run E-4, I lost 10k worth of fuel and 11k steel but only used up around 4k ammo.

Only got diverted SW 3 times out of my 40+ attempts too, I suspect it has to do with the overall hp of your fleet but that's another story.

>> No.11613917

Do I need to get perfect S for Agano? The rarest I could find in E-3 so far is only Abukuma.

>> No.11613918
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>>11613898
in 160 minutes i use up 1/3 of my fuel and 1/5 of my ammo. The boss has regen'd 2 ticks already.
Gonna retry once im at my cap again.

>> No.11613920

>>11613917
No.

>> No.11613928

>>11613918
I'm not sure why you abandoned the DDs so quickly. Unlike BBs and CAs, the seem to be able to absorb the brunt of enemy CA cut-ins. Or maybe that's just Yukikaze.

And just a note, the phrase is "takeaway message".

>> No.11613932

>>11613853
Seems like you should expect a 20% chance of reaching the boss.

>>11613917
Maybe, and also luck. There was that one guy that got 3 Aganos in 200 sorties, but I know someone that got Shokaku, Maikaze, and Agano from just clearing E-3.

>>11613803
Reminder that destroyers historically achieved the most success of the IJN, and at night battle.

>>11613918
Just carry on, you get more fuel when you're below cap anyway, and the boss won't stop regenerating.

>> No.11613933

>>11613928
CA performance was fucking shit for me.
Used up 2damage control, unable to handle more than 1hit before going red and never targeting the boss.
My chipping run on the boss with 4DD/CLT was fucking great until I needed to put in CA again for the final kill.

tl;dr CA a shit
Cant wait for the event to end so that I can put them out of their misery.

>> No.11613935

>>11613928
really? must be an aussie thing to say then. I just heard it on the news a few months back. I wasn't seeing high numbers. mostly glancing blows from yuki/shimakaze. They're high evasion and yukikaze's high luck didn't do anything either. In the end, i had to cut my losses.

>> No.11613941 [DELETED] 

>>11613918
You seem to be in a similar situation to me. I was going to grind some levels and try again next weekend. Can I ask what your equipment loadout is?

>> No.11613947
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Hope this gets scanned.

>> No.11613946

>>11613933
I only ran one the entire time and she was responsible for sending me back over 50% of the time before I swapped her out for a second DD. I reached the boss more often after that.

Once I had to kill the boss I swapped her back in but she really didn't contribute anything. The CT and BB are what killed the boss in the end. I'm tempted to say CA are overrated in E-4 but I also know I got really lucky.

>>11613935
Destroyers are cheap to deploy so it doesn't hurt to keep trying. For what it's worth, I ran 10cmx2 and they had no problems killing things. The battleships on the other hand sucked ass in every non-boss node both offensively and defensively. I wish I didn't have to run them.

>> No.11613956

good luck to anyone trying out the lottery now

>> No.11613971

>>11613956
How strict is the 5 minute thing?

>> No.11613976

>>11613971
I doubt you'll get b& before even actually starting the game for doing that, but it doesn't increase your chance either.

>> No.11613979

>>11613976
Uh, could you give me some intel here?
I don't know if I should keep trying after 11 minutes or if everybody who gets in does at 5.31.

>> No.11613982

>>11613979
I did it every 7-8 minutes. Middle ground.

>> No.11613991

Oh gods, someone I know sunk his Fubuki in E-2. Feels bad man ;_;

>> No.11614002

>>11613991
time to light some incense

>> No.11614014

>>11613991
He can just do E1, got multiple Fubuki's there.

>> No.11614017
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>> No.11614019

Are servers down? API doesn't work and on the dmm site all i get is a black box

>> No.11614022
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>>11613991
And I fed her to Maya accidentally.

>> No.11614023

What is a good fleet supposed to look like? I'm just using the girls with the highest HP

>> No.11614030

>>11614023
Depends on the map.

>> No.11614044

Is there anything special about 紫電? Why is it at the end of the list? 烈風's a S holo and has one more anti-air point...

>> No.11614055

>>11614044
Is there anything about 初風? Why is she at the end of the list? 雪風's a holo and has much better stats...

Shiden was probably added later.

>> No.11614073

>>11614023
Everything is situational. Destroyers and light cruisers excel at night battling along with sub hunting. Subs are great at farming maps on their own or in groups while maintaining low resource costs. Heavy cruisers and battleships can pretty much do anything but hit subs. Carriers pack great firepower but don't work at night.

Two of the most important ships in the game are Kitakami and Ooi so I'd suggest looking out for them.

>> No.11614085

>>11614023
a fleet with at least one of the torpedo sisters, they're indispensably strong

>> No.11614095

>>11614023
For bruteforcing everything, you wont go wrong with 4BB+2CV

>> No.11614101

>>11614095
Also the fleet composition that will reliably win all your practice matches for you. Brute-forcing really just works out great when you just need to smash everything and there's no RNG compass fuckery to mess things up for you.

>> No.11614103

>>11614101
>practice matches for you.
Never played against 4 submarines, have we?

>> No.11614104

>>11614103
Stalk and snipe him when he isnt using his subs.

>> No.11614107

>>11614103
Well, it used to work great until everyone and his grandma started getting subs. Now I just fight everyone else's fleets first, then swap to my sub-killers for those guys.

>> No.11614131

>>11614103
What if subs vs subs?

>> No.11614135

>>11614131
You lose
Unlike sortie, you dont get B rank.

>> No.11614137

Is lottery over?

>> No.11614144

>>11614107
Isuzu Kai 2 with 4 Type 3 depth charges fuck yeah.

>> No.11614150
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>>11614144
SONAR, fuck yeah !

>> No.11614169
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Finally made some progress of not getting critted before boss or being sent to dead ends. After 4 hours I finally did it. Time to let my daughters have a long rest while I recover resources for E-4.

>> No.11614183

>>11614137
lotteries usually only last 30 minutes

>> No.11614187

where's the best place to grind if you've only unlocked up to world 2-2

>> No.11614189

What's a good recipe to load up on depth charges and sonars? 30/30/30/30?

>> No.11614191

>>11614187
2-2
After the new patch you get a 5 day grace period where none of your ships can sink.

>> No.11614194

>>11614191
stop that

>> No.11614195

>>11614189
Read the wiki.

>> No.11614197

>>11614191
pretty unfunny and misleading to clueless people

>> No.11614202

【艦これ】つるぺた龍驤ちゃん【手書きトレス】
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22240135

>> No.11614205

>>11614169
>4hours
Why the heck did you bring 1carrier and 2BB?
Nowonder it took you 4hours.
To flash farm E3 bring 2CLT 3CV/L 1BB

>> No.11614209
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For eventual E4, I see most people going with Kongou and Haruna.

Should I level them or go with already leveled a bit Hiei+Kirishima?

>> No.11614212

>>11614169
CVL flagship/1BB(kongou class)/2CV/2CLT
is a 99% boss fight via top path. it took me 6 runs and a grand total of 30 minutes to finish E3 because no one was ever fatigued.

>> No.11614213
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Now to farm Agano in E-3 and I'm done with this. Took around 14k fuel/ammo, 12k steel, 140 buckets, 2DCs and a sleepless night.
Only sparkled support fleet, main fleet on last run. Double bar until boss, line ahead for boss battle. Retreat when >1 in red before boss or low orange on ships without DC.
Most annoying parts: day battle on second node, boss battle starting with day battle. Not as much kompass trolling as in E-4.

>> No.11614215

>>11614209
Level doesnt mean shit anon. See >>11611227

>> No.11614218

>>11614209
Pretty sure you already know the answer
also read the wiki

>> No.11614221

Is there a reason why people bring the torpedo duo armed with no torpedos and a hammer, as opposed to 2 more CAs? Is it because they usually have higher leveled CLTs?

>> No.11614226

>>11614221
Check out the Wikia's Combat section.

>> No.11614241

So in about 40 builds of 10/90/90/30 (Hiei kai, HQ 61) for sanshikis. I've had a grand total of 1 sanshiki and 3 AP rounds, am I doing something wrong?

>> No.11614244

>>11614241
If you go 10/60/60/30 you exclude AP rounds increasing the chance for Type 3s.

>> No.11614251

>>11614244
Ran 10/60/60/30 15 times, drops were just bad though. 10/90/90/30 at least gave some 15.5s to make up for it.

>> No.11614252

So I am thinking of building the ultimate sub killing team.
So far here is my setup
1BB
Isuzu
Bephin
Yubari
Chitose

Who do you think should take the last spot? Yukikaze or another CL like Abukuma?

>> No.11614262

>>11614252
What about Noshiro or Agano?

>> No.11614269

>>11611634
So anyone knows what this is?

>> No.11614278

>>11614269
A HUD of some sort.

>> No.11614281

>>11614221
Kitakami and Ooi deal ridiculius dmg at night due to their torp stats, so they outdamage CA by a huge margin.

Also, you need specific equip setup for the double attack, which denies you the use of repair team. Thats also why some people put Kitakami and Ooi in the first 2 slots for E4 and E5 to quickly destroy trash on non boss nodes.

>> No.11614284

>>11614278
I'm more or less interested in knowing the source of the picture, so I can somehow jew off that HUD from them Japanese.

>> No.11614286

>>11614284
Its from futaba
If you can post there, ask them about it. Its some browser plugin I believe.

>> No.11614303

So is E-4 just running into a brick wall repeatedly and hoping you get through?

>> No.11614305

>>11614303
The general idea is to make it through the first three nodes without anyone hitting red and maybe with less than 2 ships entering orange from cut-ins or critical hits to set yourself up for a good attempt on the boss. Support fleet generally isn't used for E-4.

>> No.11614309

>>11614305
Yeah, I've gotten 2 bars down so far, it just makes me want to cry when I see them start a cut in.

>> No.11614316

>>11614309
Have you tried bringing in more CAs? Cut-ins/combos seems to hit CAs for very little damage, regardless of source. Supposedly they also get a defense boost at night.

But yeah, my experience with E4 was basically throwing your fleet at the boss again and again and again until you finally luck out and she dies.

>> No.11614323

Just got Kongou in my first craft attempt for the day
Now all left is Hiei and I can get my 4th fleet.
T-level 8 btw

>> No.11614321

>>11614305
No
Support fleet is very useful unless you only advance with all ship healthy.
Day battle almost always triggered for me because I will have red ships that cant fight during the night.

>> No.11614325

>>11614309
I've discovered that sparkles protect my CAs from huge damage from cut-ins. Probably just placebo, but it I'll take it.

Though if the cut-in targeted a BB you can be sure you're going home.

>> No.11614329

>>11614316
Not him, but CA took too much dmg on my E4 runs. Each cut in on Maya and Takao was a certain hit for orange dmg. I usually had DD and CL tanking night battle very well, especially Yukikaze.

>> No.11614336

>>11614316
My CA did jack shit in E-4, they either eat a crit and hp drops down to red or fail to kill the boss. My DD fared better and when it came to boss killing I had to swap them out for BB.

>> No.11614337

>>11614323
Jesus. I'm T-10 and still unable to craft or find a BB or CV. Stuck on 2-1, these carrier stages are fucking me up, they just bomb pre-battle and send 2 ships to insta red, which is a good hour and a half in dock at least between battles. Using cross/anti air guns doesn't seem to help that much.

>> No.11614338

>>11614329
>>11614336
Yeah, I switched my CA out for DD they were just taking too much damage and resources.

>> No.11614340

>>11614337
Get Akagi from the quest
Just craft a CV or remodel chitose and do the quest.

>> No.11614346

>>11614337
For me,I hoard resources every 3 days and craft the BB receipt till finish

>> No.11614348

Grinding 1-3 sucks so much, fuck this whirlpool dead end.

>> No.11614352

>>11614340
Dont have any CVLs or seaplanes to unlock the quest, my only choice is to craft.

I've tried a couple of the carrier recipes from the wiki, but end up getting CAs every time.

Nothing I can do but keep grinding until I get lucky, I guess.

>> No.11614355

>>11614352
CVL should be a common craft.
Just do it for your daily you are bound to get houshou or RJ. They are really common, nobody is expecting you to get zuikaku for your 1st craft.

>> No.11614370

Is 2 DDs 1 CA and 2 CLs all at 12 enough for 1-4?

>> No.11614378

>>11614348
>>11614337
>>11614370
Hey bro your stories are super interesting, but can you tell them to us after you spent a week with the game?

>> No.11614396

E4 can be so discouraging, heh...
I think I've gone through about 15 runs without meeting the boss by now. There's 10 runs before this where I took the boss's HP down by 1 measly bar, but the boss is back in full HP.

Jeez. Anyone feeling the same way about this?

>> No.11614401

>>11614396
I brought her down to 1.5 large bars, then ran outta resources. She's now back to full, and I'm at about 10k/all again, though I'm down about 140 buckets.

>> No.11614404

>>11614396
I switched things around a bit and it's going way better for me. KTKM as flagship, Ooi second, Shimakaze third, Bep fourth, Haruna fifth, and Kongou last. I actually managed to S-rank the boss node on my latest try.

>> No.11614406
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>>11614401
how much is your resource at E-4 start?

>> No.11614412

>>11614406
About 15k/all. Correction, more baux both then and now because this event didn't really need carriers.

>> No.11614413

>>11614396
I spent 12 hours and 20k resources on it and failed. Just suck it up and keep going.

>> No.11614420

>>11614406

First time. Around 420 buckets or so
57516/55319/66088/61769
in 10 tries, went to
54280/53868/62765/61789
-34 buckets.
-----------------------
Second time, built up to 400 buckets.
58711/58950/66017/64321
in 6 failures
58757/58347/65714/63471
---------------------------------
Third time, 466 buckets to start
65762/71931/71947/68511
5 failures.
63930/70886/70349/68731
-13 buckets


Never managed to do a thing to the boss.

>> No.11614421

>>11614412
oh, much lower than me. I started at 20k/all yet still ran out of resources, especially steel.
currently gathering resources to 30k and will try to do E-4 again.

>> No.11614425

>>11613979
Don't know how well this worked, but I got in shortly after refreshing and failing by switching to a different browser and logging in.

>> No.11614437

Enemy CLT with midget subs to do pre-emp torpedoes when?

>> No.11614440

>>11614437
Please no, they already have elite sub.

>> No.11614443

I want targeting priority in this game. The enemies selectively target my weaker ships, so it's only fair for my daughteru to do the same. Being able to assign targeting priority would be really helpful!

>> No.11614445

>>11614443
Yeah because the game's AI totally works in a way intended to fuck you over. Since your ships don't aim the weaker ones right? Right?

>> No.11614446

>>11614445
Your BBs decide to aim for the enemy DD and misses.

>> No.11614447

>>11614445
E4 trauma kicking in right now. BB targets a lousy DD and not the boss, not the BB, not the CA, while enemy CA aims at Haruna and crit her to red.

>> No.11614452

>>11614443
there is target priority in this game - weaker targets are more likely to be chosen.

>> No.11614453

Does Chitose Carrier count as an aircraft carrier to complete quests like A11?

>> No.11614455

>>11614452
I love how my BBs attack enemy DDs while my DDs attack enemy BBs

>> No.11614456

>>11614443
Destroyers and cruisers are called escorts ships during WW2.
Their purpose was to be sunk to protect their flagship BB.

>> No.11614463

>>11614452
When I was running e3, there were a lot of cases when my bb aimed for 2 HP ships from CV bombing then full HP ones

>> No.11614467

>>11614456
But you know that BBs are supposed to fire against other BBs. They are meant to engage the heaviest opponents right away.

>> No.11614475

>>11614463
2HP ships are pretty weak, right?

>>11614456
destroyers and cruisers were used to escort civilian ships, that's why you'd call them escort ships. They were not sacrificial targets.

>> No.11614495

>>11609025
Sorry about the late response, I was caught up in some personal stuff and then E-4. But I'm wide open now if you want me to typeset something. Assuming we're talking about the same anon, I did those Chinese doujins.

>> No.11614501
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All these Japs recording their E-6 runs, those rare DD must be a pain to get.

>> No.11614507

>>11614501
So many yubari
Is this E4?

>> No.11614509

>>11614501
E-6? There's more after E-5?

>> No.11614512

>>11614501
E-6? so what it means both E3 and E1?

>> No.11614513

>>11614509
It's showing off that you've beat E5 and are farming now the rare stuff.

>> No.11614515
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4 sub afkers are scums.

>> No.11614531

>>11614515
what about 1 destroyer afker?

>> No.11614537

>>11614531
Those are the worst.
At least with subs you can still get experience.
Lvl1 destroyer is just a waste of fuel and ammo

>> No.11614539

>>11614537
You fool. Solo low-level DD afkers are giving people an easy full-fleet sparkle.

>> No.11614544

>>11614515
I'd rather have those than the assholes that put 2 low level subs and the rest with high level BBs.

You can't win, sparkle, and even if you cheesed with subs, you get no exp.

>> No.11614546

>>11614539
why not put a high-level carrier with no planes

>> No.11614547

>>11614539
1-1 sparkled last way longer.

>> No.11614554

>>11614515
I don't know, but today I looked at the ship levels of one guy in my list and he had a 26 and 24 there. 10 minutes later, it was 26 and 25. Was he really afk?

>> No.11614556

>>11614554
They are probably doing E-5 sub cheese.
I saw one guy running 4subs for the whole day. I was checking up on him constantly and then I finally sniped him when he went with 2CA 2CLT 2BB

>> No.11614559

anyone notice how asw equipment are a lot harder to craft now

i'm getting like 7/10 penguins running 50 ammo recipe

>> No.11614568

>>11614559
I've never managed to craft the better asw despite trying hundreds of times at T-level 70, so haven't noticed any difference.

>> No.11614593

Ok, so what's the deal with E5 expedition support? I've never sunk a single ship on the boss node. I've tried every combo I could think of, including the favorite 2dd+2cvl w/red planes with sparkles. I've depleted the boss gauge and often times when it comes down to the wire, ktkm targets that last surviving escort... Am I just unlucky or doing something wrong?

>> No.11614604

>>11614593
>Am I just unlucky or doing something wrong?
Yes.

>> No.11614606

>>11614593
have you read the part about support fleets on the wiki?

>> No.11614607

>>11614593
http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/34739248.html
4CV+2DD
All blues

>> No.11614612
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Has anyone ever went between two fuel nodes in 2-3 (pic related)?

In all my normal and sub runs I've never ever used this connection. It would be pretty damn profitable, fuel wise.

>> No.11614614

>>11614593
Just use the the most firepower you can afford instead. Hope that the support fleet would get rid of the balls, and at the end of the day you get armored princesses down to ohko levels. Iron Bottom Sound is your bitch during night battle.

>> No.11614615

>>11614612
Nope.

>> No.11614616

>>11614612
no but the north route is 2 fuel nodes so if you go there you're golden

>> No.11614619

>>11614612
It's impossible to move that way in the first place. E would always bring you either to F or G, and I would always bring you either to J or K.

>> No.11614621

I just tried sub cheesing at E5
Beat the first 2node easily. It is 1/3 chance to get the 5sub destroyer spawn in A node anyway.
With support expedition and T-crossed in my favor, seems like a fairly effective way to beat the boss down for my main fleet to cleanup.

>> No.11614627

>>11614615
>>11614616
>>11614619

Eh, figured as much. Someone must have fucked up somewhere along the way (most likely the artist) or it's just purposeful trolling.

North route is the best indeed, I wish southern gave a bucket or something at the end node, as a bonus for risking a three fight no-boss route.

>> No.11614628

>>11614286
So I went on futaba to ask them about that add-on, somehow my post was totally ignored by them. Damn it.

>> No.11614661

So did anyone actually analyze drop patterns and their dependence on S/A/B rank achieved? English Wiki at least is very vague on that. Anything more than speculation floating around?

>> No.11614667

>>11614661
everything is speculation until we either do some serious testing or get the source code.

>> No.11614676

>>11614661
I've been looking at E-3 listings for a while, and it seems A all drops are shit.
This seem to be different from normal maps though, I've seen good drops reports even from B ranking (rare).

>> No.11614677

>>11614661
Just assume that higher ranks would give you a bigger chance to get the rarer ships. It's hard to gather intel and much harder to sort everything out once you have the data. I think atwiki and wikiwiki have stuff about that anyway so use that for now.

>> No.11614679

>>11614661
I don't remember getting anything good on my sub fuel runs with a B rank so I'm guessing it does affect it.

>> No.11614685

>>11614667

That's why I was asking if any sort of testing was done on this.

>> No.11614686

>>11614661
Pretty sure you need S for gold background or rare ships.
All the A/B rank has never given any makigumo from 2-3. I will probably try running 4subs run seriously on 2-3 to see if I can get her after the event.

>> No.11614692

>>11614686
I got my first Shimakaze with a B

>>11614685
not enough

>> No.11614695

>>11614621

If that was one run, maybe. I can't see how it's feasible with all those Flagship, sonar-toting CLs around.

>> No.11614701

>>11614685
Now that I think about it I think it's better if the ranking droplist were posted in the maps instead of the drop table. Something akin to the style of atwiki.

>> No.11614732

>>11614621
People tried but it seems the bar regenerate faster
http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/34718954.html

>> No.11614734

>>11611651
sorry man, Windows 8 only.
I'm not even surprised if it runs on Metro.

>> No.11614754

What kongou sisters are universally the best on E4 boss? As Haruna has been to every boss fight and subsequently missed every, single, shot fired on 22+ attempts. It's frustrating with no kill yet and best attempt I've had is her at half.

>> No.11614759

>>11614754
Your equipment suck. All Kongou sister work just as well in E-4 and killing the boss.

>> No.11614762

>>11614754
Haruna sucks for me too, but it's all luck. No sister is better than the other.

>> No.11614771

>>11614754
I ran with a setup that has no +accuracy whatsoever and the Kongous never missed the boss shots

>> No.11614775

>>11614771
Wouldn't even mind missed boss shots if they targeted her. Like 5 runs in a row without boss targeted once. 20k all but bauxite spent with 120 buckets and her at a 1/4 with no kill.

>> No.11614786

>>11614775
Try shuffling the order of the girls or using one of the compositions posted by people who had an easy time with E-4.

>> No.11614791

>>11614786
Followed a couple earlier with setups and whatnot, the only thing I'm missing is 46cm guns on my bb's and I refuse to believe that not having 2 of those guns is getting me rng'd this badly.

>> No.11614794

>>11614775
I only killed the boss twice and I tried for two whole days. Only kills were during battles where one of my Kongous decided to target the boss. It's all luck.

And I actually beat E-4 with that second kill. Now gathering back my lost resources for E-5.

>> No.11614801

>>11614794
I've been chipping away for like the past 5 days by sitting on her boss screen so she doesn't regen while I get resources back slowly, which I think is surreptitiously skull-fucking me somehow. What I deserve I suppose.

>> No.11614817

>>11614801
Just don't give up. I honestly thought I wouldn't make it once I was down to 5K resources after starting with 24K fuel 30K steel and 32K ammo but somehow I made a miracle happen. My composition and equips were like adviced too, and my ships around level 70, but I'm just fucking unlucky.

Also when I beat E-4, it transitioned into day battle since I'd killed the boss first, and the bar actually came back with a little bit of red in it! But seems it was just a graphic bug since it did award me with Hachi and enty to E-5 at the end.

>> No.11614823

>>11614754
>What kongou sisters are universally the best on E4 boss?
That's a silly question. They have near-identical stats. Even Kongou kai-2 is only marginally different.

>> No.11614862

Is it possible to get rare destroyers from E-1?like what people are doing in E-3 now

>> No.11614864
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One last blog post before I begin E4/E-4. I'd like to thank all the admirals who posted their loadouts and compositions.

See you on the other side.

>> No.11614873

>>11614864
>turbines instead of repairs
see you when you start blogging again at 5k fuel.

>> No.11614888

>>11614864
You need some repair crews/goddesses

>> No.11614891

>>11614864
I would recommend switching the CA's to DD's for chipping the health gauge down if you run into trouble as I tried that setup.

>> No.11614893

>>11614873
>>11614888
Suppose he doesn't have any? Or wants to save them for other event maps? It's down to personal preference what to put in the last slot.

>> No.11614901

>>11614873
>>11614888
>>11614893
I've seen some successful reports with turbines, so I'm gonna give them a try. I've got 5 repairs and 1 goddess to burn if I must.

>> No.11614902

>>11614893
What other event maps? There's only E-5 after E-4 and you'll need them in there too. Turbines won't save you from cut-ins.

>> No.11614936

>>11614902
>E-5
Yes and future events. The implication is that E-4 can be done without repairs, hard as that may be to believe.

>> No.11614949

Wish the event was shorter so people who ran out of resources can't complete it.

>> No.11614953

>>11614936
Did you do it without those? I couldn't have done without them, and only ended up losing 1 in the end.

>> No.11614960
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Remember, DO NOT be a DUMMYFAG Tetoku.

>> No.11614985

Hmm... four runs and no damage to the boss. This is pretty bleak. Switching out CAs for DDs.

>> No.11614992

>>11614960
what's a dummyfag

>> No.11614993

Sorry for the blogpost, The wiki was kind of cague regarding this, if one of my daughter's gets crit on a random node but she was full health and not fatigued before the sortie began, is it impossible for her to sink? Or does it need to be before the node that she is in good condition.Only asking because I keep canceling my sorties halfway through whenever one of them is low.

>> No.11615010

>>11614992
Maybe it's an /a/ term?

>> No.11615012

>>11614953
No. I was usually sent back in the first few nodes where a repair wouldn't help anyway. I've seen videos where repairs weren't used, though.

>> No.11615028

>>11615012
I've seen someone clear it with level 1s, doesn't prove that it's wise to actually try that but, hey, it's possible! If you just get lucky enough, clearing it with only CVs is probably possible too.

>> No.11615037

>>11614993
If she ends a battle in critical health and you send her into another battle, she will very likely get sunk, regardless of fatigue.
If she was fine/orange (health, not fatigue) when starting the battle, then enters night combat in red... she will probably not get sunk, or at least I've never had one happen.
Dunno about fatigue though, I always sparkle every girl prior to sorting, even on event maps.

>> No.11615046

>>11614993
that's not a blogpost, it's a stupid question.
Those things work on a per battle-basis, not on a per-sortie basis. Details on when a ship can be sunk or if going into night battle counts as a different battle are still not 100% clear.
No one wants to test this for obvious reasons.

>> No.11615056

>>11614936
I can't imagine how many more attempts it would take without repairs. I had at least 1 heavily damaged ship in almost every successful run on E-4. Turbines definitely don't make up that much of a difference.

>> No.11615070

How's /jp/'s experience with the middle route on E5? Guaranteed path to the boss is nice, but it seems very difficult to kill anything during the day phase.

>> No.11615081

>>11615070
Not worth it unless you have goddess on everyone

>> No.11615082

Have there been drawings before 17:00 in the last 1-2 weeks?

>> No.11615092

Finally got Hatsukaze from E-3. Now I can go back to farming 5-2 for Mikuma.

Notable drops
4 imuya (apparently she's supposed to be as rare as Hatsukaze)
1 Zuikaku
1 Agano
1 Hatsukaze

I didn't count how many runs I did, but I used 15k fuel on this.

>> No.11615103

>>11615092
>apparently she's supposed to be as rare as Hatsukaze

Damn it. The most common sub is the only one I don't have.

>> No.11615106

>>11615070
I did it with 2 repairs (used one) and 15k resources. First-node crits aside, much more pleasant than E-4.

>> No.11615111

>>11615106
Mind telling me your loadout? I've spent 22k oil/ammo and she's still at 30%.

>> No.11615133

I just barely cleared E5 with 150 buckets and 16k resources. To those Teitokus who are struggling, here are some tips I found out the hard way.

1. Make sure to have the correct expedition support fleet composition. I used 2DD+2CVL red planes and then 2DD+2CVL+2BB for the boss kill. I tried all blue planes but they seemed to miss more.
2. Don't bother with damcons. There is only 2 fairly easy nodes. Advance with orange without fear. Fill the slots with sanshikidans or more radars.
3. I noticed a definite difference between a fully sparkled fleet and a non one. At the beginning I tried to rush but ended up eating crits every sortie, hence my 150 bucket use. With sparkles, against cutins, my girls were merely scratch damaged or brought down to only orange.
4. Hardest hitters last. I can't stress this enough. Trust your girls in the last night battle. I am now firmly in the "won't sink if entered battle orange" camp. However note that I sparkled before every sortie.

Good luck

>> No.11615135

>>11615111
1 DD, 2 BB, 1 CA, 2 CLT.
Typical 2x46cm or 20.3+15.5; type-3; radar/repair on heavier ships. Midgets and 15.5s on CLTs. Yukikaze stacked with quint and 53cm torpedoes.

Support for last few runs: 2DD, 2CVL.
Tried both all Ryuusei Kai and Suisei kai-2 and got similar results. Two floaters sunk and the rest got scratched.

>> No.11615139

Anyone got Shoukaku from E3? I've mostly seen people get Zuikaku, wonder what are my chances.

>> No.11615146

>>11615135
How are you triggering the middle fleet with that setup though? Unless I misread and you can get middle route with a mixed speed fleet.

>> No.11615152

>>11615146
Kongous are BBs too?

>> No.11615161

>>11615133
2CVL+2BBs? I'll try that.

I've been doing 4BBs and it hurts me resources more than it hurts them.

>> No.11615156

>>11615133
I think that sparkling protects your ships at orange. Probably not at red though.

>> No.11615164

>>11615152
You only go down the middle if all your ships are the same speed.
But having two Kongous will take you north.

>> No.11615170

>>11615156
I was very skeptical before but not now.Whatever it is, I'm a believer in both sparkles and orange advancement.
>>11615161
I don't know how 4BB compares but with this setup, I was consistently killing 2-3 mobs.

>> No.11615172

>>11615037
I wouldn't support that statement, my Furutaka sunk on the boss node when she started the battle with orange. Feels bad man

>> No.11615178

>>11615172
Sparkling or non-sparkling? This is important.

>> No.11615181

>>11615170
When the 4BB setup shows up (only red guns on all of them) I usually get the 2 flying fortress dead and a solid hit on one of the Himes + a small dent on the boss if I'm lucky.

2BB and 2CVL sounds much more sustainable though, since they don't always show up and I don't always reach the boss node.
AND it costs 450 ammo a pop, my breakthrough fleet doesn't even use that much bullets.

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http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=39715401

Know what the base needs? A trauma counselor.

>> No.11615196

>>11615181
Since you should have plenty of baux, I think the best support for this event is 4 CV/CVLs stacking blue planes. If you fail the sortie, you don't have to pay the baux as well.

>> No.11615199

>>11615156
Tested on a sparkling red ship. It sunk for science. Someone should try orange too.

>> No.11615206

>>11615196
3* blue planes right? Also, would green planes improve damage?

>> No.11615208

>>11615206
No

>> No.11615209

>>11615206
why should they?

>> No.11615217

Wow, so I've been having a rough time with crafting equipment this past week, and a friend of mine told me to use 110/110/250/250.

I got a type 13 radar, type 32 radar, a +6 and +10 turbine in 4 tries.

Did my friend just discover some secret recipe or was I just getting lucky?

>> No.11615219

>>11615209
Well, I noticed that my bauxite cost went down when I used them and the fact that I had started killing/hitting enemies. I'm just assuming that the support expedition is kind of just like a stronger bombing phase.

>> No.11615221

>>11615082
レス

>> No.11615224

>>11615196
My attempts with torpedo plane runs weren't very positive (small dents everywhere, no fortresses dead). I only have a handful of Tenzans and like... 2 Ryuuseis.
My attempts with cannon fire had been more positive because I had half a dozen 46s.

>> No.11615225

>>11615217
What was the flagship?

>> No.11615229

46cm triple recipe is 10/300/250/10, right? Right? I can use 100 fuel to have a shot at turbines too?

It's just me having shitawful luck of not getting a single one in about 100 crafts so far?

>> No.11615230

>>11615225

Kongou-Kai. HQ is 74.

>> No.11615237

>>11615229
I've gotten more 46cm with 10/251/250/10 than that

>> No.11615242

>>11615209
I've seen deep sea fleet planes appear to shoot down friendly planes during the support fleet animation.
I dunno if that'll actually affect the performance of the support fleet or is it just cosmetic.

>> No.11615245

>>11615217
15.2cm
type 21
float plane
type 91

>> No.11615258

What does range do?
The wiki says that lighter colored red guns have less range, but I can't find what range is actually good for, not to mention the lighter colored guns seem to have better stats.

>> No.11615264

>>11615224
>>11615242
I noticed this too and stopped using the aerial bombardment all together. The artillery fire you get from BBs/CVLs were much better for me. Just my 2c

>> No.11615267

>>11615258
Longer range shoots first. When you have enough firepower to kill things in one shot, getting to shoot first becomes very useful.

>> No.11615284

What was the method of preventing the boss timer from counting down? Just remain at the win/lose screen after fighting it once?

Kind of chipping away at E-3, since I do well if I get sent south and to the boss, but worse when I get sent north or if they troll me. But clearing it in one day is not likely.

>> No.11615292

>>11615284
Doesn't work for E-3 since the boss won't say anything to you at the beginning. That's where you're supposed to wait so it won't regen.

>> No.11615293

>>11615264
The main point is that it's cheaper. A lot cheaper considering baux means nothing in this event. It definitely is not as good as BB fleets but not that much worse. I used it for the full E-5 run (both whittling the gauge and the final run) and kept the ammo/fuel usage below what most people reported.

>> No.11615305

>>11615293
Did you have Ryuseis on every CV? Because my results weren't anywhere near what the article said.

>> No.11615319

I just wanna check, your flagship will never sink regardless of whatever situation it's in right?

Like being extremely unlucky and have enemies lolcrit and focus your flagship non-stop

>> No.11615329

>>11615319
Answer's on the wiki.

>> No.11615323

>>11615305
My run was before the article so I have Ryuseis on the 2 CVs' biggest slots and guns on the CVLs' smallest slots. But I believe the article is more correct?

>> No.11615330

>>11615323
> I have Ryuseis on the 2 CVs' biggest slots
I mean Reppus

>> No.11615334

Why do I never see people post high level Shigure? 50 luck on a destroyer at level 60 must make her one of the best no?

>> No.11615338

>>11615334
I don't think anyone really knows what luck actually does.

>> No.11615339

>>11615334
I have Shigure Kai 2, she's great. I also use her because I still don't have a Yukikaze.

>> No.11615340

>>11615334
Yukikaze has higher luck; she also only came out recently so players may not have had the time to get her to level 60 just yet.

>> No.11615346

>>11615338
>>11615339
>>11615340
Ah alright, thanks.

>> No.11615345

So, teitoku, do you make your ships sparkle before going for E4?

>> No.11615348

>>11615329
Looking at the FAQ, I got info about flagship and crafting, not what I'm looking for.
I got info about the arc animation during battles, also not what I'm looking for.
Something about 2-4, doesn't answer my question.

Please enlighten me where I can find the answer to my question Anon-sama

>>11615334
There was one guy that posted a pic of a Shigure about lv58 about his run I think

>> No.11615349

>>11615345
By not being retarded.

>> No.11615354

>>11615348
>The exception is your flagship (the first ship in your fleet), which can never be sunk.
Cited from the how to play guide

>> No.11615351

>>11615338
Well, high luck does seem to mean that you get much higher chance of cut-in. Yukikaze frequently gets cut-in when compared to other DDs, and I noticed that Goya gets cut-in rather frequently for that matter.

>> No.11615357

Daily crafting quest already reset maybe an hour ago?
Done usual recipe four times and it yielded 2 Imuya...
My friend got 2 Imuya too, is today an Imuya day?

>> No.11615358

>>11615345
A waste of time, sparkled ships take crits to red as easy as non-sparkleds for me. Actually, if one of my ships was sparkly it was more likely that she'd be the one getting a crit to the face first.

>> No.11615359

>>11615349

>do you make your ships sparkle?
>by not being retarded

way to dodge the question like a true politician,

>> No.11615362

>>11615354
Ugh, I just wish the answers and questions weren't so all over the place in the wiki. Thank you very much

>> No.11615364

To the money hating teitoku's, do you think buying development kits is worth it?

>> No.11615367

>>11615330
And my results was around http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/tamenuko/imgs/6/4/64d3f69b.png
I also sparkled 2-3 ships in the exped (usually the DDs which I pre-sparkled)

>> No.11615368

>>11615351
Shigure Kai 2 also always does cut-ins for me.

>> No.11615369

>>11615364
If you have the resources to go with it

>> No.11615372

>>11615358
I saw a post where someone tallied results that people had posted and compared sparkles vs non-sparkling. The people who sparkled every run averaged about 15% less resource usage and the same amount of real time.

I'll see if I can find it again.

>> No.11615379

>>11615362
Using the search bar might help.

>> No.11615386

>>11615372
The fatigue reduction from sparkling your ships and the fact that you get some steel to scrap do help with your total costs. It is more time intensive in the sense that you are glued to the screen however.

>> No.11615383

>>11615372
Personally, I find it useless for E-4 but important for E-5 just because of the nature of the boss battle.

>> No.11615385

>>11615372

see
>>11611126

>> No.11615389

>>11615372
the number of samples is too low to be sure it wasn't just random luck though.

>> No.11615405

>>11615389
The standard deviation for E-4 is too big to be conclusive.
E-5 looks more reasonable. However, the fact that you can have a 11k ammo average with 7k SD makes me wonder the legitimacy of the data.

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Whenever I complain about something here, the opposite always happens soon after.
So, grrr! I'll never get last E-5 boss kill. Damn RNG, NE path, whatever.

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Slightly new admiral from Brunei with a serious question:

What should I be doing, working on, building, etc if I have any hopes of clearing E-4 before the event ends in about a week?

>> No.11615475

>>11615470
Please do a public service and complain about all the other anons complaining about not being able to clear <insert map name>, going the wrong way, or shooting the wrong ship. We could all use some assistance in the luck department.

>> No.11615478

>>11615474
That's a very easy to answer question - pray.

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>>11615475
I wish all anons including me never attain whatever it is they are trying to accomplish in this game so they'll keep coming back here and complain about stuff.

You can't tell, but I winked.

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>>11615483

>> No.11615497

Is it usual to constantly have a lack of fuel? I need to wait every single time to get fuel to pay for repairs AND restocking.

>> No.11615503

>>11615497
Use more DD and less BBs

>> No.11615505

>>11615503
I'm seriously new at this (started today with the lottery) so I still have no BB. I'll just bring less CA/CL and change them for DDs. I'll leave Naka since she's been sparkling for a long while.

>> No.11615509

>>11615505
Try doing more quests and expeditions.

>> No.11615517

>>11615505
I didn't have a BB till the 3rd day when I crafted Nagato. Use the CL's and DD's for now and hope for BB drops. Once you stock enough mats try the 400/-/600/- crafting recipes.

>> No.11615529

>>11615517
I did those 400/-/600/- twice, got CA on both. I'll leave them to rest once they get too damaged to be repaired for now.

>> No.11615538

I've cleared E-2 at the expense of my KTKM-sama. I should be glad she wasn't on her second upgrade, but having to raise another one to catch up for this event is gonna be tough, much less getting her again.

>> No.11615542

E4 makes me want to die, but I'm too far in to give up on it.

>> No.11615544

>>11615538
Looks like Kitakami's ended up the punching bag of this whole event. You could have at least killed her on a map where it made sense to rush. At least E-3's easy.

>> No.11615549

What the fuck. Just tried some pvp, why are lvl9 admirals loaded with 2-3 carriers and rest battleships?

>> No.11615550

>>11615544
You mean E-4? I don't even think my fleet and resources would be strong enough to tackle it before the event ends.

>> No.11615562

I thought about it, and felt that one should still sparkle for E4, since sitting around and waiting for fatigue to go away is counter-intuitive. If you are sparkling every time, then you can run expedition 2 and 3 without issue (as you are always at the screen).

>> No.11615568

>>11615549
maybe they are lucky with crafting but don't have much time to actually play the game?

>> No.11615570

Aha wow this event has really toughened up my fleet. I remember barely clearing each map with the skin of my teeth. My girls have gained about 20 levels and now I'm just leisurely farming E3. Feels good.

>> No.11615573

>>11615570
Around what levels were they when you started?

>> No.11615585

>>11615573
When I tackled E1, kongou was leading in the low 60s, with mogami bringing the rear in the high 40s. I played like a madman and finished E5 today. Kongou is now 85. Both her and ktkm are the mvps of iron bottom sound.

>> No.11615614

I love Kongou.

>> No.11615617
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>>11615614

>> No.11615621

>>11615585
Fuck. I want my Iku, but only started the game yesterday.
Fuck

>> No.11615624
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>>11615621
Just cleared 1-4 now its time to grind my Isuzu and i should have Iku soon.Step it up.

>> No.11615629

>>11615621
Got Iku on day 3.

You just need 1-2 BB, 2-4 CL/CA, and at least 1 if not 2 DD/CL fully eq'd with anti sub gear.

>> No.11615638
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>>11615617
The only BB even close to Kongou on the olev scale is her imouto.

>> No.11615640

>>11615621
>>11615629
ASW gear not necessary. Just use the last formation on the sub node. E1 is equivalent to clearing world 1. An all DD fleet works too, just make sure to modernize and max their armor and firepower stats. Also someone cleared E1 with an all level 1 DD fleet. Try your luck.

>> No.11615670

>>11615638
Hiei was my first BB

She's fucking great

>> No.11615687

>>11615670
Haruna is also a goddess.

Nobody cares about Kirishima.

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>>11615687
Oh, it's you again. How's your progress?

>> No.11615721

>>11615570
Same here. I only cleared up to 3-3 and 4-2 with Akagi/Kaga highest at lvl70 when the event started.
Now I think I can probably breezed through rest of the game after the event. I mean how hard can 3-4 and 4-4 be compared to E4?

>> No.11615728

>>11615721
> 3-4
ha ha ha

>> No.11615736

>>11615721
I still think 5-3 has the most obnoxious night battle nodes ever.

>> No.11615754

I didn't see anything about it in the Twitter, and the recent time change has me all messed up. Is there a maintenance in a bit under 2 hours for this week?

>> No.11615759

>>11615754
Yeah they are adding Haruna on the next update

>> No.11615763

>>11615754
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/400058138507751424
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/399541587471912960

>> No.11615767
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>>11615705
Haruka please go, just go already.

>> No.11615774
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11615774

At least the event is making them more popular.

>> No.11615775

>>11615774
I haven't noticed. I've always liked them and I'm still trying to get Kumano. From what I've seen most people like them, unless you're talking about fanart.

>> No.11615778

Fuck it. Giving up on E4. Not going to spend the remaining half of my resources to make myself miserable for another six hours. Getting way too tempted to risk my daughters and losing one of them isn't worth the price. Just gonna farm E3 for rare ships instead.

>> No.11615784

>>11615767
I want Kaga to monopolize me.

>> No.11615786

http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/34806540.html
E5 setup for lowbie

>> No.11615789
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>>11615767
Haruna will never give up, never.

>> No.11615812

>>11615778
doing e4 does give you a chance to get rare ships as drops. I just got a Hosho from the preboss node... so it's not all bad.

>> No.11615817

>>11615786
Any lower than that?

>> No.11615818

>>11615812
She's the most common carrier by far.

In my 45 attempts in E-4 the rarest ships I got were Kongou class battleships.

>> No.11615832

How bad is the compass at E-5?
In my 2test run so far, I got sent NE twice.
Is it 50/50 chance or what?

>> No.11615835

It took me 30 hours, but I finally cleared E-4.

Started with 20k fuel, steel, ammo and actually ran out. Spent some time gathering resources and doing the daily quests.

I used the same fleet as >>11613475 except I had Kirishima instead of Haruna. Also exchanged the turbines for emergency repairs. Sent everyone in sparkling and with air support.

Those who are having trouble getting the final kill don't give up. You have 8 hours to rest, resupply, or do whatever if the bar is at zero.

>> No.11615841

>>11615832
My complete E-5 tally was more like 2/3 chance for boss node.

>> No.11615851

>>11615818
>She's the most common carrier by far.

I'm level 56 and I have never seen nor crafted a Housho. Does she drop all the time in later maps?

>> No.11615855

>>11615851
She's rather rare despite being the only(?) normal card type carrier. I get the scroll girls and RJ far more often for AA fodder.

>> No.11615856

>>11615851
I'm lvl 40 and I already crafted like at least 5 Houshous from around 30 tries.

Mostly chiyos

>> No.11615858

>>11615832
I went NE dead-end only twice out of my 23 E5 runs.

>> No.11615883

>>11615858
>>11615841
I sure hope it is just RNG messing with me and not composition problem. I went with DD CA 2CLT 2BB instead of the usual 2CA 2CLT 2BB.

>> No.11615918

I noticed in the wiki and in pvp that other KTKM's launch a torpedo before the round starts, but my ktkm kai doesnt, any idea why? she's using the stock launchers.

>> No.11615920

>>11615918
It's on the wiki.

>Kitakami and Ooi; Level 10 remodel into a torpedo cruiser allows them to carry midget submarines called Type A Ko-hyoteki (甲標的甲) which let you do preemptive torpedo attacks on the enemy.

>> No.11615924

>>11615920
Okay thanks, is she worth using without the Type A ko-hyoteki? Considering her main damage comes from torpedos and she has a very small amount of firepower now.

>> No.11615927

>>11615924
I do use them, but I'm an inexperienced admiral compared to other anons here.

>> No.11615945

>>11615924
Her second remodel is worth using in the event maps without the minisub because her combined firepower and torp stats are off the charts at night. However, in any sort of day battle you want it equipped.

>> No.11615946

>>11615927
Forgive me for being so dumb but I just took a look at what you quoted from the wiki and I have two of those equipped, so why isnt my ktkm doing pre-emptive strikes?

>> No.11615951

>>11615946
Have you remodeled her yet? If so, then I'm not sure why they wouldn't.

>> No.11615954

>>11615951
Yeah, she's been remodled once. Oh well, thanks anyway.

>> No.11615973

>>11615946
You cant do pre emp attack when the battle start at night.

>> No.11615996
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11615996

What kind of fleet would you guys recommend for E-2?
My current fleet for reference, T-Level 19

>> No.11616006

>>11615996
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Fall_2013_Event

>> No.11616013

>>11615996
Sparkled sub, put her as flagship
Filled the rest with double attack DD/CL/CA
Dont put more than 1BB

>> No.11616010

>>11615996
How do you low level fuckers get all these ships I would have killed for. Hell, I still don't have Shokaku and Imuya.

And pretty much none of those are useful in E-2. Most people clear it with destroyers, torpedo cruisers, and light cruisers with the occasional sixth slot carrier to try and force day battle with.

>> No.11616030

>>11615996
Destroyers, Heavy/Light/Torpedo Cruisers or Submarines. You're only hurting yourself when you're running Battleships on that map. Since E-2 is are mostly night battles, Destroyers and Cruisers are definitely the ones you should use since they're more useful in night battles than Battleships.

>> No.11616032

>>11616006
I've read the event page, just wanted to know what additional inputs people would have for my particular situation.

>>11616010
I crafted all of them when I first started the game, now I don't get any rare ships at all. I got two KTKMs but they were from drops and I think she's pretty common anyway.

>>11616013
Will that work even if I don't have any turbines?
Feels like it would get shot to 1 pretty quickly
or am I supposed to just keep trying until I get to the end with the sub alive?

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>>11616032
A fully modernized armor sub can takes punishment and sub repair time is short. Just cycle through all your sub.
Straight line to boss every run.

>> No.11616087

On a low level map, some random normal BB one shots my Lv33 Nagato-Kai while shining...

500 steel gone instantly...

Forever cursed by the RNG-goddess.

>> No.11616099

>>11616087
At least you didn't lose her in a night battle.

>> No.11616119

>>11616087
Bring those capital ships only for the map you can accept its repair cost.
What low level map needs Nagato?
Blaming RNG is a lame excuse.

>> No.11616124
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11616124

So I saw Kumano Rev's damaged art in battle today.

Now she and Suzuya are a part of my team forever.

>> No.11616126

>>11616119
2-4.
No access to world 3 till its done.

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>>11616051
This is the best I can do with only one BB, all my other ships are low level like this.
I don't think this is even close to being able to get through E-2, what should I do?

>> No.11616135

>>11616130
Good enough.
Even better, your dont even have to waste bucket.
Level doesnt mean jackshit in night battle.
You have to make sure they are fully modernized though. Get them to lvl20, remodeled them and fully modernized them.
You still have like 7days.

>> No.11616136

>>11616130
give up. E-2 reward is useless

>> No.11616137

>>11616130
Well for one you could at least remodel them. You have seven days anyway.

>> No.11616149

>>11616130
Remodel them. Careful about your resources though since that BB can drain it dry not to mention the long repair time it has once she eats a crit. If you have other ships to swap her out for then you may swap her out for that ship.

>> No.11616153

>>11615763
Thanks, Teitoku. I'm not usually home when the maints start, so I guess I was rushing it when I checked Twitter.

>>11615759
I hope so too!

>> No.11616156

>>11616135
>>11616137
>>11616149
Alright, working on remodeling them right now.

I should be able to swap Haruna out for Kongou/Hiei/Ise when necessary.

>> No.11616171
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11616171

Hey guys. Just managed to beat E4 with a rather lowbie team.
The team sparkles.
No support fleet expedition.

Total time: 7 hours in all.
Total attempts: 24.
Resource at start: 64670/73236/71260/68805
Resource at end: 57609/67825/66376/69885
Net Consumption: 07061/05411/04884/(1080)

Max. consumption per sortie: 256/433

5 hours to zero the health bar, by 17th attempt.
2 hours to achieve S finish at boss node.

12/24 times that the team made it to boss.


Setup:
CA: 2x 15.5 triple mount, type 3, dmgctrl
BB: 2x 46cm, 1x 15.5cm, 1x type 3
SS: 1x 53cm bow oxygen torp, 1x 61cm quad oxygen torp


Just want to say that you do not need to even be at lvl 50s to beat this. My team was all in their 30s and 40s to start. Iku just 2-3 all day every day to get to her level.

>> No.11616176

>>11616171
Total bucket used: 81.

>> No.11616184

>>11616171
Repair time is double for remodeled iku right?
Is it worth it? I dont know if I want to remodel them unless I know for sure I can get a new spare iku and hachi.

>> No.11616183

How long would it take to build up to a 100 buckets.
I have no self control and can't resist using them for even the shortest of wait times.

>> No.11616185

Should I remodel Fusou?

>> No.11616187

>>11616183
If you run expedition 2 all day, I think you can get there in a week rather easily.

>> No.11616191

>>11616184
IMO yes. SSV will be able to do all the sub missions at any rate, so you should do it as your subs become that much more potent. My Iku has torp rating of 114 and evasion is now at 43 without running any turbine.

>> No.11616193

>>11616185
Yes.

>> No.11616204

I-8 spricht deutsch...
Vielen Dank, Frau RNG.

>> No.11616210

>>11616171
you lucked out then, E-4 is RNGs playground, my fleet of 70s spent somethink like 18 hours, and 20k+ of fuel/ammo/steel, most of it after she was already at empty because i couldnt get 2 ships to shoot her in the same sortie.

>>11616184
get her to 70 first imo, SSV leveling rate drops severely once they remodel due to the double repair time and 50-70 seems to be slump levels for subs.

>> No.11616219

>>11616210
Good point.
Made the same mistake with kongou kai2. Paying much higher cost to run her to 99 now.

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>>11616184
IMO, only Goya is worth remodeling and that is when you have some spares.
I'll keep 19 and 8 un-remodeled until I can get their spares.

>> No.11616273

>>11616248
i wish i had a Goya, T-level 80 and still only have a couple Imuyas, Hachi and Iku and have been doing sub builds for all the dailies.

>> No.11616278

>>11616273
It took me three weeks worth 4x rare DD formula to get my first Goya. Just don't give up and you will get her.

>> No.11616283

>>11616273
i'm currently paying the price. I accidentally lost my imuya, but got a goya after 3 crafts. So i've been double sub farming 2-3 nonstop to try and get another. So far all my crafting attempts for ANYTHING nets me a heavy cruiser. seeing 400/130/600/30 being dumped for a heavy cruiser or 250/130/200/30 for a light/heavy cruiser is really depressing.

>> No.11616299

Sorry for the noob question(just started 2 days ago)
I got Goya and unlocked 2-4 so far.
apparently people are soloing 2-3 and 2-4 with her getting As.
But when I try to do the same, I'm just getting Ds.
Am I doing something wrong here? Should I level her up to some point before she can pull it off? or do I need certain equips?

>> No.11616304

>>11616299
luck
fully modernized armor

>> No.11616303

>>11616299
Yes, yes and yes.

>> No.11616306

>>11616299
You should progress through the game normally since you'll need those other ships leveled anyway. You're just unnecessarily tanking your win/loss rate. And there's no excuse since you have E-1 as a stepping stone.

>> No.11616309

>>11616283
you mean 3-3? she drops from node A there somewhat often.

>> No.11616310

>>11616306
You will also need to level your ships to get through E-2 and E-3. Honestly, ships that can do 2-4 should get through E-2, although you will find E-2 to be even more hair pulling than 2-4 ever is.

>> No.11616316

>>11616306
Well yeah I'm leveling my other ships too, but since I got goya I would like to level her up aswell to include her in my fleet later on

>> No.11616320

>>11616309
Haven't gotten over 2-4, compass keeps throwing me north. So i've just been farming 2-3 for experience and drops that never happen. I've given up on heavy crafting investments, as that merely makes me pretty upset seeing the 1:25:00 or the 1:30:00 timers. I just have a huge army of heavy cruisers, and only 1 battleship to show for it. I just hope to get to 3-2 to grind all my ships up later.

This gives me something to do while I wait for tera queue pops at least.

>> No.11616331
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11616331

How much resources have you guys set aside for E-6?

>> No.11616335

>>11616331
I am down to about 57k/67k/66k/69k for the time being. Not done with E5 yet. I will prolly sub cheese E5 for a while...

and maybe I will try to cheese E6 as well.

>> No.11616343

>>11616331
E6? Sorry I've been away this past week, did I miss something?

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>>11616331
E6 too easy, guess it's time to go back to 5-2.

>> No.11616347

>>11616344
>Agano and Hatsukaze
Congrats anon, I'm envious even though I want the crane sisters and Makigumo.

>> No.11616349

>>11616320
if your goya is level 30+ take her solo to 2-4, i did it with Imuya around that level and she cleared 2-4 on her 3rd try.

BBs drop often from 3-2 and you really need 4 and 2 CVs to take 2-4 the hard way.

as for BB recipie, try 400/30/600/30, its how i got Nagato, the 130 ammo you are using is probably boosting the cruiser build chance instead of helping your BB build chance.

>>11616331
still saving for E-5, going to stockpile for another few days seeing as E-4 cleaned me out rather badly.

>> No.11616356
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It's just RNG sending me the other way, or a random DD hit of 10.

I think i've tried the 400/30/600/30 recipe about 15 times so far, only gotten hiei, and a billion cruisers. I wish I could get another BB. Seeing all the people saying kongou on first craft etc sucks and makes me realize how stupid I am for losing my sub.

i'll probably try 2-4 again when I hit 35-40ish.

>> No.11616365

I'm sorry for being a noob but how does the 2-3 solo sub thing work?

Do you guys just send her to 2-3 to tank all damage then repair, rinse and repeat action kind of thing?

>> No.11616369

>>11616365
after the initial node the majority of the enemy ships do not have anti sub weapons. clear, restock, repair, repeat

>> No.11616371

>>11616356
There is no need to waste resources on kongous. Just beat 2-4 with your CA or with ise or kusou sisters even if you dont like them. You just need to have 2CV/L with blue planes and you can usually reach the boss node without much damage. You can also include ktkm and she will also take out 1scrub during the preempt phase. CA can then clean up the boss during night time.
You can easily get all 4kongous in a few day at 3-2.

>> No.11616373

>>11616331
I'm skipping out on E5, but I didn't stockpile much for this event either, so I'll probably only have 30k-40k of resources and 200 buckets to play with. Nothing good so far on 20ish clears.

My carriers are all low-level though, so E6 will be good for getting them up to par.

>> No.11616375

>>11616369
I seriously still don't get it, because my Iku just pretty much takes more than she can handle on the first node and I have to retreat already.

Or is that a normal thing?

>> No.11616377

>>11616375
I prefer dual subs myself but solo sub is perfectly fine too.

It might be the levels. I have 7 Imuyas on rotation and it seems that around level 40, if you don't get T-cross advantage, the chances of Imuya actually getting orange damage is pretty low. I run Goya, Iku and Hachi on flagship and equip all of them with one torpedo.

>> No.11616378

>>11616375
Max the armor you noob.
Unless you get T-cross advantage, she only takes 1damage per hit.

>> No.11616379

>>11616378
NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE TO ME!!

>> No.11616383

Just picked up Ooi from 2-4-A.
Abusing pre-battle torpedoes on both KTKM and Ooi is going to be fun.

>> No.11616386

>>11616375
rng and pray. it's either you dunk 1-3 ships with torpedo crit or get screwed over. modernization also helps. usually is miss, 1 damage, or hueg damage to subs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljXgdoCALj8&feature=youtu.be
>>11616371
ah, thanks. Only issue is that I only have 1 CV right now, and the compass hasn't been kind to me recently when I try with a full group of ships. Gonna go farm the Type A preemptive torpedo for KTKM soon.

>> No.11616389

>>11616386
2-2 and 2-3 drops silver CVL every other encounter.
Just use rj, hiyou or junyou. They are all very good at the start while Chitose takes a long time before she is good.

>> No.11616405
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11616405

Silly girl, only useful for sex appeal.

>> No.11616409

>>11616405
no u

>> No.11616414

>>11616389
I've been farming 2-3 for quite a while today, I don't know what i'm doing wrong but I don't seem to be getting many drops from the nodes. I'm not capped on ships or anything.

Well, at least I get to have fun in the pvp exercises because everybody uses BB/CV armies.

>> No.11616417

>>11616405

Sex with a goddess must feel fantastic.

>> No.11616418

Is E3 even worth farming? I've gotten nothing but Naka and that white hair DD.

>> No.11616421

>>11616418

I'd assume the drop rate for Hatsukaze is higher than where she usually drops due to it being an event map (or it's the same), and a chance at Agano as well.

It's only worth it if you're not going to/already finished E-4 and E-5.

>> No.11616422

>>11616418
It's been pretty good to me, I only want an Abukuma and Shoukaku from there now.

>> No.11616429

>>11616421
E5 drops Agano too right?
Going to try to farm E5 for Nagato.

>> No.11616430

>>11616422
Is abukuma even rare? she was my very first craft once out of the tutorial

>> No.11616435

>>11616430
Well she has a golden bg, so not that common.

>> No.11616437

>>11616430
She's gold. Got three of her off the boss, though. She needs to stop screwing with me when I get all excited over the gold background expecting Agano.

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>>11616437
I'd trade you my spare Agano for her

>> No.11616443

>>11616440
>abukuma
Fucking Abukuma.
I have like 10 of her before getting Yukikaze.
Also got another from E-3 drop. She doesnt even get good equipment when after remodelling. I swear she is more annoying than nakachan.

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>>11616440
Where are these giant Kongou pictures from?
nothing from reverse searches

>> No.11616450

>>11616447
saucenao.

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>>11616447
Couple of cute pixiv comics. I combined them a while back and completely forgot to post it.

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New quest?

>> No.11616459
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>>11616457
And then I was too lazy to get around to the latest one with an adorable wo.

>> No.11616461

>>11616458
Time to clear cache ?

>> No.11616465

>>11616458
They added it with today's online maintenance.

>> No.11616468

>>11616458
just a composition quest for furutaka, kako, aoba and kinugasa

>> No.11616474

Free ice cream, neat.

>> No.11616476
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11616476

>beat 2-3 with no damage received using Aoba, Kinugasa, Kako and Furutaka
Yeah, that isn't happening any time soon

>> No.11616479

>>11616476
>Kako and Furutaka
Why are you making me use ships I don't even like, game.

>> No.11616477

>>11616468
Huh, so I guess this concludes that the new heavy cruiser upgrade might be one of those three?

>> No.11616485 [DELETED] 

>>11616476
>>11616477
>>11616479
I dont under what they are doing with this.
I dont fucking see any difference between this and shin mikawa composition? It is just shin mikawa minus tenryuu and choukai.
All these shitty CA quest...

>> No.11616486

>>11616476
Compass girl send me to dead end again, as expected

>> No.11616481

>>11616477

It's obviously going to be Suzuya.

I mean, why wouldn't the best and most beautiful of all the heavy cruisers not get it?

>> No.11616482

>>11616479
Otherwise there'd be no point in having them in the game

>> No.11616484
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>>11616476
More like rank S win.
Also you can add other ships.
I did it with SS and CLv.
And got another Imuya.

>> No.11616492 [DELETED] 

>>11616484
The quest also gave me a furniture box and one repair clue.

>> No.11616494

>>11616492
It's Compass chan after all

>> No.11616501

>>11616484
Whats the reward anon?
I need more repair hammer.

>> No.11616497

So who gets the remodel?

>> No.11616506

>>11616503
Who?

>> No.11616503

>>11616497
Fubuki

>> No.11616504
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>> No.11616529

>>11616497
I'm guessing Furutaka. And she'll have double robot arms and be fully on her way to becoming a full cyborg.

>> No.11616533

>>11616504
Oh wow. Did one of the DDs get a second Kai as well?

>> No.11616542
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>>11616504

>> No.11616543

01▼重巡洋艦1隻の改装(改造)追加実装 ある重巡洋艦娘1隻のさらなる改装(改造)が可能となる仕様を追加実装しました!ちょっと地味なパワーアップですが、お楽しみに!

02▼金剛改二の【燃費向上】! 金剛型高速戦艦「金剛」改二の燃料消費&弾薬消費等がちょっぴり向上、上方修正されました!

03▼駆逐艦娘3隻の【ボイスが追加実装】されました! 駆逐艦「霞改」「荒潮改」「 霰改」の「放置」「補給」ボイスが追加実装されました!

04▼新しい【任務】が追加実装されました! 「編成」「出撃」において新任務がそれぞれ一つずつ追加実装されました。それぞれ購入アイテムを入手することが可能です。魂のプレイを続けている提督はぜひ活用ください! 本日のオンメンテに伴う小規模アップデートは以上です!

>> No.11616551

>>11616542
I know who I am leveling after the event.

>> No.11616546

>>11616542
Now THAT'S an improvement. Unlike that BB.

>> No.11616547

>>11616542
Fuck me. Time to level Kinugasa and bench Aoba for now.

Glad that Kongou2 is getting her resource used fixed.

>> No.11616548

>>11616542
Smooches for Kinugasa.

>> No.11616553

>>11616542

Holy shit that's an improvement.

Those gloves are sex.

>> No.11616554

>>11616543
Asashio class getting kai2?

Good thing they changed kongou kai2 fuel consumption.

>> No.11616555

>>11616554
Arashio and friends are getting additional voices. Nothing about an upgrade.

>> No.11616560

>>11616555
Shigure and Yuudachi all got their voice fixed before the upgrade.
I can feel it coming.

>> No.11616562

>>11616560

I hope that's the case. I really like the Asashio class ships.

>> No.11616565

>>11616560
Is there any distinction in their performance during WW2? So far all of new remodels (except maybe Isuzu-K2) have their own history.

>> No.11616566
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>>11616459
And here I was holding out for an Aoba remodel.

>> No.11616571

>>11616542
New project found. Right after Noshiro, Isuzu and the 5 DDs I need for 3-2.

>> No.11616573

>>11616565
Kasumi was the last survivor of the Asashio class ships. Someone should post the strip where each of the Asashio class got sank leaving Kasumi alone.

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I don't think that composition quest was there before.

>> No.11616602

>>11616598
Read >>11616543. 4th one.

>> No.11616606

>>11616598
Read the thread. It's within the last 25 posts, come on.

>> No.11616607

>>11616598
new quests, scroll up a little and read maybe

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>> No.11616631

>>11616628

Fuck off Kaga I'm leveling the Crane Sisters right now.

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>>11616631
They'll be there in the morning.

>> No.11616717
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11616717

i keep getting this screen when i go to "get" my built ship (it shows 00:00). what does it mean? i can't progress in the tutorial either cuz i can't add it :/

>> No.11616718

>>11616717
Please capitalize your "i" and type out words properly. Remove the emoticon as well.

>> No.11616740

>>11615562
No need to wait for fatique to clear since every girl will need a bucket after a run anyway.

>> No.11616752

Is there any other way to buy points without emailing my fucking ID card to some company overseas? I just want to buy docks for my girls.

>> No.11616759
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11616759

Nice.

>> No.11616763

>>11616759
Good I'll evolve my king Kongo when it's time.

>> No.11616764

So Kinugasa's 2nd remodel is at 60, does she get anything good?

>> No.11616765

>>11616752
The other way to convert money into love(word version):
Registering credit card and get a free 500 points for your daughters.
0. Turn off any Japanese VPN/proxy if you had it on.
1. Visit http://www.dmm.co.jp/en/netgame/point/-/freepoint/
2. Click on the yellow [無料でポイントをゲット] button
3. Enter your login credentials.
4. Enter your credit card info. (You should see this page in English)
5. Revisit URL in 1 and click the yellow button again.
6. You now have 500 points for your daughters.

How to actually hate money. (Point purchase after finished adding credit card)
0. Turn ON Japanese VPN/proxy.
1. Visit http://www.dmm.com/netgame/social/-/gadgets/=/app_id=854854/
2. Login if necessary.
3. Click on [ポイント購入] on top of the page.
4. Select how much money you hate.
5. Click on [クレジットカードで支払い]
6. Click [購入を確定する] to confirm.
7. You now have more points for your daughters.

>> No.11616777

>>11616765
Tried it already, doesn't work with gaijin CCs.

>> No.11616778

>>11616764
It's 55 according to wikiwiki.

>> No.11616785

>>11616777
Well...I know of two others, asides from myself, that have gaijin credit cards and this method has worked perfectly fine for us.

>> No.11616807

Approaching 100 sorties in E-3 and still no Agano. Now I'm questioning myself whether she's real or not.

>> No.11616810

>>11616807
friend got one while depleting the boss bar, lucky bastard

>> No.11616813

>>11616807
any good drops?

>> No.11616817

>>11616813
1 Abukuma, 5 Kinugasa, and maybe one page full of Hiei and Sendai.

>> No.11616822

>>11616817
Kinugasa is really common in this event, must have increased the droprate because of the second remodel.

>> No.11616835

>>11616807
2 hatsukaze 2 imuya. Agano does seem like a myth.

>> No.11616837

So, we know Kinugasa got a remodel, but what about the BB?

>> No.11616840

What the fuck is wrong E5 compass.
First three run.
A Rank
S Rank
A Rank
Alright time to send in support expedition for guarantee S Rank.
NE
Retreat, 1 ship crit to red
NE
Fuck you compass-chan. Wasted 1k ammos for nothing.

>> No.11616844

>>11616840
Man, you're lucky. S ranked the boss on first try but now I'm just being randomly crit to red or sent NE. Boss gauge is almost full thanks to 3 hours of RNG trolling.

>> No.11616845

>>11616837
Judging by the four remaining slots left, we're going to get one more DD remodel for 146 (a level 65 remodel, if it follows a pattern with Yuudachi, Shigure, and Bep) and one more BB remodel for 150.

139 and 140 are probably going to be new ships.

>> No.11616848

>>11616844
I don't even know if I should waste my resources trying or just hunt for new ships, the two days I've tried I had shit RNG luck.

>> No.11616854

>>11616844
>>11616848
1 S rank gives you about 7hour
Take your time.

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>>11616854
>7
Are you sure? It's only been 3 to 4 and it's like this now.

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>>11616845
I hope Haruna gets a remodel eventually..

>> No.11616861

>>11616859
Sorry I cant count.
>Boss health regenerates at a rate of 2.9%/hour and complete boss kill removes 14.5% of the health bar.
About 4.5

>> No.11616862

>>11616861
Isn't it exactly 5?

>> No.11616865

>>11616862
Yeah you are right.
Basically just keep trying, just sparkled to clear your fatigue. I just got sent to NE again, goddammit.

>> No.11616869

>>11616865
I'm sparkling them all the time but getting 4 ships crit to orange and red in the first node is very demoralizing. There's also that part where my resources and the last 5 hours being wasted.

Sometimes I wonder how people managed to clear it under 5.

>> No.11616872

>>11616869
>Sometimes I wonder how people managed to clear it under 5.
Luck

>> No.11616873

>>11616869
Luck.
http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/34806540.html

>> No.11616874

>>11616869
If I have nagato and yamato
I would brute force the all slow route.

>> No.11616883

New Quests?
「第六戦隊」を編成せよ!
「第六戦隊」出撃せよ!

>> No.11616894

>>11616873
>>11616872
My worst enemy, heh. So far E-5 has been tougher than E-4, that flagship node is crit hell.

>> No.11616896

>>11616894
By the way, Lineahead > Lineabreast

>> No.11616897

>>11616896
Do you hate steel or something

>> No.11616900

>>11616897
Trust me.
Lineahead get me to boss more often that line abreast

>> No.11616942
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Will you still level her?

>> No.11616947

>>11616942

Yes, because I'm not a statfag.

>> No.11616963

>>11616942
If she still uses less resources than the other classes, sure.

>> No.11616968

>>11616947
What's the point of min/maxing when there's no actual pvp combat anyway?

>> No.11616993

whats the use of the XX mm AA guns if 12.7cm greens are plentiful and gives fleetwide protection VS planes AND adds slight FP and accuracy

>> No.11616998

>>11616993
It's explained in the wiki.

>> No.11617009

>>11616998
The wiki says non dual purpose AA guns only protect the user which seems like a direct downgrade from dual purpose guns.

>> No.11617021

fyi, E5 drops Goya
Also small sample size but apparently line ahead formation fare better against cutin compare to line abreast.

>> No.11617077

I wonder what the October reward would be. Anyone know when they give out these rewards typically?

>> No.11617086

had a good run in E4 for 4 hours. got it to 30%. then it happened. 1-1 runs no longer giving sparkle consistently. first node red crits on the one non DC cruiser. going SW when a perfect run. Doing no damage to boss as only 5 attacks and they kill all shit units.
bar is 30% and still regenerating. god save me if i dont kill myself. it is 1 28 am and i feel like throwing up.

>> No.11617088

>>11617077
It's on twitter.

>> No.11617094

>>11616942
Yes, because dat unique cruiser cannon.

>> No.11617098

>>11617086
Wow, you're an exceptionally whiny bitch.

>> No.11617101

>>11617086
Idle on boss speech screen and go to sleep.

>> No.11617104

Where's the best place in world 2 to hunt transport ships?

>> No.11617107

>>11617104
2-4

>> No.11617108

>>11617104
2-3 sub runs

or 2-2 if you want to make net negative resources

>> No.11617111

>>11617098
post your E4 clear and the figures, anon. Otherwise it's a cup of stfu for you.

>> No.11617113

>>11617111
Get the fuck out. No one cares about RNG shitting on you. I'm not the one that you're replying to, either.

>> No.11617114

>>11617111
And shit up the thread even more? Go save yourself, because God won't.

>> No.11617115

>>11617113
Not that original anon, but it's blog time for those that failed to do E4, once again.

>> No.11617117

>>11617111
Not your blog. If you want sympathy go somewhere else.

>> No.11617121

>>11617108
Tried 2-2 but it was hell-ish, going to try 2-3
I also noticed that my sub started to get hit more often when I remodeled them.
...or maybe RNG is just screwing with me.

>>11617107
Haven't tried 2-4. Trying to use less resources as I still have to clear event maps

>> No.11617122

>>11617117
>sympathy
>somewhere else
pretty sure that this info's on the wiki. sympathy aplenty there nowadays.

>> No.11617126

New thread
>>11617124

>> No.11617127

>>11617111
nice trips but you arent me.
>>11617098
suck it up cunt.

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The servers are unstable or is just me?

I've recived 4 or 5 network error screen in less than 10 minutes.

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