/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Every single day I thank God that 装甲悪鬼村正 isn't translated.
Every single day I pray to God so that this wonderful masterpiece would remain untranslated.

Long live 装甲悪鬼村正, the Greatest visual novel ever created.

[Anonymous No.]

it'll be translated eventually

[Anonymous No.]

Ah, looks like I've found my next project.

[Anonymous No.]

looks quite boring so no loss for those of us that cannot rad moonspeak

[Anonymous No.]

OP, are you referring to JAST's upcoming game "Full Metal Daemon Muramasa"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311146

I don't think that anyone would be able to make it in time, thankfully.

http://www.pray4zion.org/TheComingBloodMoons.html

[Anonymous No.]

The reason it would become shit when translated isn't simply because it would be in english. It's because it would be opened up to /a/, /vg/, reddit, tumblr, and EOPs on VNDB for people to form their shitty normie opinions on. It's harder to like something when you know their opinions exist. That those types have experienced it. They ruin everything.

[Anonymous No.]

OP show me on the teddy bear where muramasa touched you

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>>11311179
whats EOPs?

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>>11311179
Can't wait to see thumblr/reddit/animesuki fags put Kageaki DARKNESS in their forum sigs, completely ignoring his character and comparing him to Sasuke.

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>>11311179
>>11311130
OP is so butthurt because other people can't enjoy/dislike things that he likes.
Learn to grow up. If you really like something, if you really don't want others to change what you think of it, you should stop caring about other people's opinions about it. It's not like objectively the VN is going to change or anything. It's just because you lack balls to like it as it is.

People like you is the reason I hate people like you who want to be sound really cool and hipster all the time and pretend to like something until others start liking it too. Deal with it, kid.

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>>11311199
>deal with it, kid
What does he need to deal with, tough guy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311205
other people's opinions. Was it tl;dr for you mr. kid b?

[Anonymous No.]

Is the Japanese of it too hard?
I'm used only with moege.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311199
Sorry, but I can't ignore the opinions of others. As soon as it becomes available to them, it will become a shit pile of epicness, memes, misunderstandings, and "you're not supposed to masturbate to the ero, that's creepy!" by association.

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>>11311213
Yes it was tl;dr for a post flaunting that the other party is butt-hurt.

Lol I just can't resist butting in when I saw that deal with it phrase. It's hilarious how one mentioning of /a/ is enough to set you off.

[Anonymous No.]

ITT retards who wasted two years on getting fluent in a language nobody speaks are fucking scared of their efforts going to shit because people translate the stuff they worked so hard to be able to read for

[Anonymous No.]

Muramasa girl ranking: Kanae = tea circle > hikaru > old lady > nisei > sansei > army girl from flashback >raichou > kurisuno > the old guy in a woman's body > is that your first or last name > princess bitch > racer bitch
Am I missing anyone?

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>>11311179
Tumblr is great

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>>11311199
Translation are an offense to the original writer. You can't translate something from Japanese to English, just look at Makina's speech in Grisaia.
If I were a writer I wouldn't like other people shitting up my texts in order to grow their e-penis.

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>>11311228
You really think that's true? I wouldn't have worked so hard to only read a few dozen works. There's about a hundred eroge I enjoyed that will never be translated. Not that it matters, since EOPs only like "REAL DEAL" visual novels and nothing else. They're normies so they don't understand the concept of happiness from fantasizing.

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>>11311236

>Translation are an offense to the original writer

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>>11311219
You know what you should do? Turn your back on all of that. If you can't do that you're either very superficial about the things you like or very immature. Well actually, probably both. When people start "ruining" things I like I simply stop listening to these insults, because if something is good it should out by itself regardless of what others make of it. For instance, the VN itself isn't changing now is it?

If you're still not conviced...:
It really isn't that hard, it's part of growing up. When I was a kid I had a nemesis cousin who used to call me names, and I did the same to him. We usually got very mad but as I was older and stronger, I would chase him to beat him up and stress myself out. At one point I just stopped caring. He could say whatever he wanted and it wouldn't affect me. It was hilarious to see how butthurt he himself felt when he understood that his insults had no effect anymore.

Maybe all this ">shit pile of epicness, memes, misunderstandings, and "you're not supposed to masturbate to the ero, that's creepy!"
has a function, which is precisely to annoy you. Once YOU and only YOU are able to stop that from happening, you'll see that the trolls and other people in general will affect you way less. Then you'll be free to enjoy life and things as much as you want, and you'll be a happier person.
Sayonara.

[Anonymous No.]

Since when can peasants express their opinions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311246
>Not that it matters, since EOPs only like "REAL DEAL" visual novels and nothing else.
I wonder how much literal shit you read just because it's Japanese and untranslated.

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>>11311256
There's a hell of a lot of stuff that is as good as EOP favorites like Majikoi and Hoshimemo

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>>11311199
I don't want the filthy EOP subhuman animals anywhere near Muramasa.
What this guy says >>11311219

I don't want any of the /v/vg/a/ and other EOPs garbage shitting up Muramasa. Just check their VN threads. They're godawful. I feel bad for Majikoi.

I love Muramasa. I don't want to see it suffer the same fate as Mublubs and other not-half bad VNs.

[Anonymous No.]

10/10 bait, would post again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311259
Learn to take it easy. It's /jp/'s motto.

[Anonymous No.]

There are two rules for browsing the /jp/
1. EOP scum not allowed
2. You have to be a homosexual and love sucking dick or at least genderfluid
If you can't follow either than get the hell out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311256
A lot of it isn't shit, but even the things that are shit in terms of story create a good setup for self-insertion and fantasizing. As I said, that's something normies don't understand. They seriously think eroge are just about story.

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>>11311229
Chachamaru=Sandaime>Army girl>Kanae>Subaru>Ichijou=everyone else>raped princess

Manly tier: Raichou
Pervert bro tier: red bearded nazi(forgot his name)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311130
is that japanese for baldr sky

[Anonymous No.]

Not to go full moogy or anything, but I imagine it would be rather difficult to translate the Muramasa experience. Stuff like the way Kageaki speaks doesn't really have an English equivalent, and it's kinda important in characterizing his self depreciating I'm-unworthy-of-everything attitude. I'm afraid he's going to end up speaking generic "translated-Japanese-ese" rather than sounding like Kageaki.

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>>11311185
here

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>>11311296
Before playing Muramasa I though that keigo is for betas, but Kageaki taught me that it can be pretty badass and you can own people using it.

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>>11311275
>2. You have to be a homosexual and love sucking dick or at least genderfluid
If you can't follow either than get the hell out.
#slaythegay

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>>11311146
I hope not, it would be completely ruined.

[Anonymous No.]

no one in this thread understood the Kabuki scene anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311275
what is EOP?

[Anonymous No.]

btw muramasa's author won the noble prize

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311349
英語のみ農民

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311367
ありがとう　アノンさん

[Anonymous No.]

So I went to take the train the other day, crowded as fuck, you know one of those 4PM trains. Well anyways, on my trip home I stood beside this really bulky black person with a laptop. And being the nosy person I am, I usually try to take a look at people's screen for fun just to see what kind of person they are.

This dude's screen was rotated in a way so that I could barely see it though, and at one point during the trip he had to reposition himself because of a passenger passing by, and you know what I saw? Fucking 装甲悪鬼村正. Can you believe it? A SUBHUMAN dog shit colored monkey playing 装甲悪鬼村正.

I could barely sleep that night.

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>>11311381
>mfw a shitskin ape monkey dumb mother fucker subhuman animal piece of shit nigger trash man playing 装甲悪鬼村正

I understand your rage brother. You should've wiped the floor with that fucking ape.

[Anonymous No.]

Did you guys listen the drama CD? I'd give it 7/10 because I hoped for more comical antics from Kageaki, but instead I it was a flashback. It's also short. Too short.

Still, Wakamoto was awesome.

[Anonymous No.]

What makes this game so good? The art style is pretty impressive, but the summary for the game makes it seem fairly generic. Are the ero scenes any good, or is it one of those games where you spend 40 hours listening to people ramble on about pointless bullshit, and then you get a poorly drawn ero scene?

Not trying to troll; just sincerely curious. I've been tempted to read it many times, but the length of it has turned me off because I've been burned before.

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>>11311532
>What makes this game so good?
Everyone dies.

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>>11311532
>one of those games where you spend 40 hours listening to people ramble on about pointless bullshit
This is actually one of Muramasa's good points. The sex scenes are short, mostly rape and well drawn.
Most of the girls didn't deserve rape tho.

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>>11311236
>look at Makina's speech in Grisaia
Yeah that only happened because herks was the one editing that VN and herks loves to troll people.

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>>11311236
>look at Makina's speech in Grisaia.

What happened with Maikina's speech in Grisaia? I haven't bothered checking out the translation, but I'm curious.

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>>11311725
I didn't want to post in such a bait looking thread but this one annoyed me a bit too.
Grisaia's translation seem overall very solid but I agree that Makina's speech in english doesn't suit her.

Basically in the japanese version there is a cute discrepancies between the darnest things she can say and her pretty cutesy way to speak なのよさ
The english version just makes her seem like an annoying brat.

I understand it's impossible to translate and Koestl probably did his best though.

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>>11311532
>What makes this game so good?
Because it is dark and edgy. People eat that shit up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311725
herks changed every one of her lines to hillbilly

[Anonymous No.]

You're all a bunch of manchildren, I'd rather have more discussions about this game with other communities than the not so often popups here with you elitist neckbeards.

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>>11311250
I agree, these people are acting like real manchildren.

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>>11311253
Why should fucking lazy ass secondaries be able to read the shit I had to spend years to do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311734
>>11311742

How did they handle her lewd/suggestive lines in the translation?

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>>11311759
I trust /jp/'s opinions regarding eroge above everyone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311776
Not as bad as the rest of her lines, but still not great.
Honestly they should have just translated to normal English, you can appreciate the cutesy way she speaks just by listening to the audio.

[Anonymous No.]

What did Muramasa's writer win the Nobel prize for exactly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311785
I mostly trust one or two guys who post in the vn thread and actually seem to know what the fuck they talk about

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311809
Nobel Peace Prize for stopping Obama

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311809
Nobel prize for making my dick erect

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311759
>>11311769
Then fuck off. You sound like you're from tumblr anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311888
＃滅ぼした

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311888
Stop trying to fit in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311919
Kill yourself.

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>>11311919
Stop using "stop trying to fit in" as a way to defend yourself. If you prefer discussing these things with communities other than /jp/, than go do it.

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>>11311250
For me, it's not about the VN itself, but about the overall atmosphere of the discussion and the community that likes it, that is going to turn into utter shit as soon as retards from /a/v/tumblr/ get their hands on it. Instead of decent discussion between people that tend to be more or less knowledgeable about the topic, you get a batch of epic memes, macros, people who can't really understand anything due to stupidity and bad translations.

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>>11311219
> As soon as it becomes available to them

Basically what happened to anime and manga with the wide spread availability of fansubs. Attracted a large collection of fags into anime who think they're special because they watch exotic cartoons from Japan.

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>>11311929
fuck off you sound like youre from sa anyway

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>>11312054
You're the one who's complaining about "manchildren" and "neckbeards".

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>>11312069
Wrong guy fucktard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311988
Lel, like there's any community for this game, it's always been the same 6 dudes talking about it every once in a blue moon.

[Anonymous No.]

I just finished chapter 2 a couple days ago. So far, it feels a little too silly. Some of the insanely edgy things Kageaki says were actually pretty decent, but I still don't see how it's that amazing.

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>>11312411
Chapter 2 is the worst part of the game, just continue and you'll see

[Anonymous No.]

>>11312433
I thought it was better than the first chapter though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11312382
Sure thing. Whatever you say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11312411
It gets much better. Finish ch. 3 now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11312436
The first chapter was funny though.
Although the villain was full retard.

[Anonymous No.]

How long would ya say it would take a guy to learn enough Nihongo to be able to read this? Is the average of 2 years enough?

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>>11312549
It really isn't that hard to be honest, so probably if you're as autistic as me.

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>>11312549
2 years.

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>>11312549
Probably 3-4 if you want to read it comfortably. The grammar isn't that bad so you could probably read it earlier but you would be looking stuff up all the time. And if you misunderstood some big plot aspect everyone will hate you forever.

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>>11312560
Ffffff, well this will be a journey.

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>>11312575
See you in the VNTL thread in a month.

Also >>>/a/daily+japanese+thread

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>>11312069
that was my first post in this thread

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>>11312650
Sure thing. Whatever you say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11312674
It seems reasonable. You can tell its a different person by the fact that the new guy doesn't capitalize or punctuate and sounds like he's from /v/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11312680
That's just to throw me off.

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>>11312683
I'm the manchildren guy, ya skeptical freak.


(I love you)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311130

Why make threads like this if you want things low key? Or are you just showing off?

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>>11312914
>Or are you just showing off?
You just answered your own question.

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>>11312914
Probably the latter, if people honestly don't want to deal with the collateral damage that is /a/vg/v/ when something gets translated they would have moved on to 2ch by now.

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>>11312947
Japanese are nearly as bad as EOPs

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>>11312957
How? They are the intended audience after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11312962
Having to learn a language keeps casuals and teenagers out. Japanese don't have that barrier, so the people who get into it are on average the same type of people who just play translations in English.

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>>11312957
>nearly as bad

So, why stay here if they're slightly better? Can you really speak Japanese, I mean fluently or just enough to read some shitty VN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11312977
>Having to learn a language keeps casuals and teenagers out.

Keeps them out of where? You sound like an /a/ poster.

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>>11312977
Does a Japanese "casual" even read VNs? and with the number that would be available in Japanese even if he does wouldn't only the widely popular ones be of interest to him?

They are written for Japanese teenagers and young adults to begin with. How does putting in effort to learn a language have any relation at all to the validity of your opinion?

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>>11312990
>So, why stay here if they're slightly better?
Slightly better than the EOP population. I don't come here to talk about translated VNs.

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>>11313000
>Does a Japanese "casual" even read VNs?

There's no such thing as a Japanese casual. Chances are if you're a nip and you play VN. You're an ota. I have no idea what this guy is going on about.

[Anonymous No.]

Gonna assume you mean't to quote me

>>11313009
>Slightly better than the EOP population.

That's what I said, if it's slightly better why not stay there?

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>>11313020
They are certainly otaku, but they could be more into anime or manga and just try a few VNs. Plenty of people in Japan would play VNs and still be using terms moebuta, similar to how there are probably a lot of people in /vn/ that use the term moeshit unironically.

>>11313000
>with the number that would be available in Japanese even if he does wouldn't only the widely popular ones be of interest to him?
Sure, but those people still post.

>>11313031
Because I don't come here to talk to the EOP population. How is this hard to understand. The VN thread here is mainly about untranslated VNs.

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>>11313040
So if they post about ones you don't care about what's the problem? Just stick to the threads about the non-mainstream ones and it sounds perfect for you.

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>>11313040

So, you come her because you want to talk to some gaijin that can speak Japanese. Because they're allegedly better for conversation then real Japanese people about a sub-culture largely in japan?

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>>11313040
>The VN thread here is mainly about untranslated VNs.
Then get back to your quarantine, weeb. Only English oligarchy people can make new threads.

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>>11311130
How good could it possibly be if nobody's bothered to translate it?

Plus, the opening looks silly. Facepalm power-charge much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313040
>Plenty of people in Japan would play VNs and still be using terms moebuta

I hope nobody is stupid enough to take you seriously.

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>>11313061
Why should I? I like it here. IT doesn't help that I need to use a VPN to post on futaba.

>>11313075
Yeah pretty much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313094
>futaba.

He said 2ch not 2chan. Thanks for outing yourself.

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>>11313101
I didn't go back to check. 2ch doesn't have images, so it isn't comparable either. I also do go there.

[Anonymous No.]

op started out with a troll thread and now he's getting fuggen owned into the stratosphere LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313111
I'm not OP. If you feel like you're owning me good for you though.

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>>11313020
I don't see how playing a VN automatically means you're an otaku in Japan any more than it does in the West (for appropriate western analogues of otaku.)

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>>11313107
>I didn't go back to check.

I dunno who you think you're kidding. Why would anyone who speaks moon even bother coming here? Let alone confuse 2ch with 2chan [ a common mistake by casuals] Just quit while you're ahead.

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>>11311381
He's the same as you. A Japanese-speaking gaijin who likes this game.

Actually, he's better than you. He doesn't begrudge other gaijin his game.

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>>11313120
I am fluent in Chinese, but I can only read at a tenth the speed that I read English and write like a grade schooler.

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>>11313121
Maybe he does, you don't know him.

Unless... you were him! DUN DUN DUNNN

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>>11313115
>in Japan any more than it does in the West (for appropriate western analogues of otaku.)

There's no equivalency with otaku in Japan and in the west. No such thing as part time ota who's really a normie like we have on /a/v/co/ etc. Normalfags don't care about VN over there.

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>>11313120
I'm not op or the guy you're arguing with but I speak Japanese and I don't post on 2ch. It's not the promised land you weebs make it out to be. It's actually pretty shitty.

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>>11313128
I just turned off my jap vpn just to tell you that no one gives a shit.

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>>11313120
>Why would anyone who speaks moon even bother coming here?
Because they are completely different communities. I bet you also think nobody goes to both /jp/ and /a/.

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>>11313132
>No such thing as part time ota who's really a normie like we have on /a/v/co/ etc.
I'm pretty fucking sure that there are fairly normal Japanese people who happen watch anime, read manga, and play VN from time to time. The WA2 all-ages PS3 port sort 40,000 copies and scored near full marks with Famitsu.

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>>11313132
The western equivalent is geek and western geeks obsess over things like Zork, not VNs, which are basically the western equivalent of VNs.

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>>11313133
>2ch

What does 2ch have to do with ota?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313137
I was making a point about how it's much easier for people to use their native language than a secondary one.

In fact, you give a shit, not only did you respond, you turned off your Japanese VPN to respond.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313139
But look at all these fantastic posts. It's truly an eden for eroge players.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313148
what

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>>11313133
With how shitty the elitists on here make the English community sound I find that hard to believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313133
But look at all these fantastic posts. It's truly an eden for eroge players.

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>>11313144
>The WA2 all-ages PS3 port sort 40,000 copies and scored near full marks with Famitsu.

Because of Vippers.

>I'm pretty fucking sure that there are fairly normal Japanese people who happen watch anime, read manga, and play VN from time to time.

You're pretty stupid to believe that.

>>11313146
I said there is no equivalency. Not that there is not equivalent and being a "Geek" doesn't mean shit in the long run. Since it's mainstream and has nothing to do with being a hobbyist anymore.

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>>11313152
>>11313158
>2ch.jpg

What does 2ch have to do with Ota? Do you mean Futaba?

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>>11313161
VNs are pretty mainstream, hipster.

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>>11313170
>VNs are pretty mainstream

My bad, Keitai games and handhelds are mainstream and so is manga. But, my point is he committed this package deal fallacy by lumping anime, manga and vns together like most westerners do because that's how it is in the west.

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>>11313161
Yeah, I'm sure Famitsu is just infested with them.

>You're pretty stupid to believe that.
Yeah, when magazine subscriptions don't number into the millions and animated movies aren't regular box office hits, maybe I'll consider believing you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313181
>Millions

Are you seriously using number of copies sold as proof of popularity in Japan? I'm clearly arguing an ignorant person, my mistake.

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>>11313169
what the fuck are you talking about

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>>11313189
>Are you seriously using number of copies sold as proof of popularity in Japan?
Yes. What are you using?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313139

My bad, I forgot to elaborate.

I mean't why would you come here and brag about speaking moon and claim you have to stay here?

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>>11313180
But the west isn't like that either. Most people who watch anime have probably never heard of VNs. But there are still plenty of people who have barely played anything beyond Majikoi and Rance.

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>>11313180
I'm pretty sure most people lump VNs in with adventure games in the west. Show a westerner a VN and they will think it's a boring adventure game.

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>>11313192
The mistaken belief that people actually buy 100 copies of the game like they claim to.

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>>11313203
Who's holding that mistaken belief now?

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>>11313192
>Yes. What are you using?

Why would you use that metric is what I'm saying. Vippers will disproportionatley effect the number of copies sold

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313206
This loon.
>>11313208

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>>11313208
Pretty sure nobody's going out and buying a hundred subscriptions to the same magazine, because that would be, like, fucking stupid. Buying a hundred tickets to see a movie is SLIGHTLY more reasonable but still stupid.

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>>11313211
Oh, I see. I misunderstood because I thought you were the person I had been conversing with.

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>>11313197
>>11313199


What are you guys talking about? Look at the language and how it's used. Anime is always used synonymous with manga for example. VNs might be the exception, but nonetheless the tendency to lump things together is common in the west. When you say anime, people will think Manga and many time VNs.

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>>11313228
In the West, when you say "anime" people will think, "oh, Pokemon and Gundam, stuff like that." And if you're lucky they'll have heard of Spirited Away. But probably not.

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>>11313211
>>11313215
>Pretty sure nobody's going out and buying a hundred subscriptions to the same magazine, because that would be, like, fucking stupid. Buying a hundred tickets to see a movie is SLIGHTLY more reasonable but still stupid.


I knew you guys were ignorant, but this just takes the cake. I've lost all my respect for /jp/ tonight.

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>>11313233
You just come here to yell about how VIPPERs control everything and troll /jp/, because you can't actually be dumb enough to believe everything they say.

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>>11313230

When people say anime they use it as a catch all for anything Japanese. Doesn't matter if it's a game, anime, or manga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313237
>believe everything they say.

They post vids in niconico. . . You guys are really ill informed about the sub culture. Why do you think AKB48 is so big?

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>>11313247
Yes, every now and then, a few people will upload stuff like that for shits and giggles. But if a THOUSAND fucking VIPPERS all purchased a THOUSAND magazine subscriptions each, that wouldn't even be half of the current circulation. And that's just fucking obviously not happening.

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>>11313253

Why would you assume they only purchase just 1000 copies?

>Shits and giggles

Azuma was right. There really are no ota in the west. It's like saying muslim extremist are just doing things for shits and giggles.

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>>11313259
>Why would you assume they only purchase just 1000 copies?
Why would you even entertain the thought that they don't? Do you have videos of VIPPERs sitting on enough copies of stuff to fill a fucking truck? You're lapping up some seriously dumb shit, mate.

>It's like saying muslim extremist are just doing things for shits and giggles.
Yeah, they're all terrorists now. Fantastic analogy.

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>>11313259
>Why would you assume they only purchase just 1000 copies?
Why would you even entertain the thought that they buy more? Do you have videos of VIPPERs sitting on enough copies of stuff to fill a fucking truck? You're lapping up some seriously dumb shit, mate.

>It's like saying muslim extremist are just doing things for shits and giggles.
Yeah, they're all terrorists now. Fantastic analogy.

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>>11313264

The analogy was that they'e extremist. But, you do know that Otaku have beem terrorist too?

>Why would you even entertain the thought that they don't?

Because it's well known and documented within the subculture. These are the same people that pay the equivalent of 100 dollars for 2 episodes of a Blu ray anime. Hell, why do you think anime is so expensive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313265
>Why would you even entertain the thought that they buy more? Do you have videos of VIPPERs sitting on enough copies of stuff to fill a fucking truck? You're lapping up some seriously dumb shit, mate.


http://yonasu.com/akb48-fan-buys-5500-copies-of-new-single/

Stay stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

i never read vn's because they're the equivalent of those wal mart cheesy romance novels with the buff guys on the cover.
Along with idols and kigs, VN readers complete the triumvirate of garbage clogging /jp/

twilight for boys

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313268
>The analogy was that they'e extremist. But, you do know that Otaku have beem terrorist too?
Well, you picked a fucking stupid analogy. I might as well compare my literature teacher to Hitler because they were very strict and got angry a lot. Did you know that more than a few teachers have become mass murderers?

>Because it's well known and documented within the subculture.
Go on, show me anywhere where it's been documented where it's a regular occurrence (I don't give a shit about one-shot stunts by attention whores with too much money) that people go out buy near two thousand movie tickets or magazine subscriptions to mes the numbers. You could fill the back of a truck with that. Or anything else you think is comparable - no idols, though, those are special.

>These are the same people that pay the equivalent of 100 dollars for 2 episodes of a Blu ray anime. Hell, why do you think anime is so expensive?
Because they're targeting a niche market that will pay that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313276
Shouldn't you be making another Touhou thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313273
There's a reason people do it with idols, you dumb fuck. Nobody does that shit with fucking MAGAZINE SUBSCRIPTIONS. And that event was notable enough to make the news. You're phenomenally stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313158
I can cherry pick too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313278
>I might as well compare my literature teacher to Hitler because they were very strict and got angry a lot.

People do that all the time. X is like a nazi and so on.

>>11313278
>Go on, show me anywhere where it's been documented where it's a regular occurrence (I don't give a shit about one-shot stunts by attention whores with too much money) that people go out buy near two thousand movie tickets or magazine subscriptions to mes the numbers

http://www.kawaiikakkoiisugoi.com/2012/05/25/akb48-fan-buys-1000-copies-of-new-single-pt-2/

http://yonasu.com/akb48-fan-buys-5500-copies-of-new-single/

>Because they're targeting a niche market that will pay that much.

Video Games have niche markets as well in them. Even if it's not entirely one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313284
>And that event was notable enough to make the news.

. . .In English. It's notable for people in English speaking world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313286
>People do that all the time. X is like a nazi and so on.
Yes, they do, and then you call them retards cause that's dumb (unless they were obviously joking around).

Dude, stop with the fucking idols. This is the third time now. There's a reason a few deranged individuals will blow tens of thousands of dollars to support their oshi and that logic simply does not extend to buying a thousand subscriptions to the same comic magazine.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit, and I thought /a/ was bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313293

Nobody is talking about comic magazines. Because those are mainstream and cheap as fuck. The original example was Famitsu and I commented on it:

"Video Games have niche markets as well in them. Even if it's not entirely one."

Nobody said anything about comics and VIPPERs you troglodyte.

[Anonymous No.]

At least this thread will be dead soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313293
>deranged individuals

This is how casualization starts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313279
i will.
fuck off to tumblr with your vn shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313290
It made the news in Japan, too. And that guy's not a VIPPER, hell, he's not even even fucking Japanese!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313308
>It made the news in Japan,

[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.]

Jealous EOPs are so cute! So tell me, which board was this thread linked to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313303
I started talking about them, you stupid fuck. I mentioned how their total subscriptions number into the millions. And you know what you did? You quoted "millions" and asked "wow why do you trust those numbers," so that's what you were responding to. Don't try to weasel out of this now, you little fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11312411
Muramasa really shines in the final arc, the first two are the set up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313307
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313316

You said millions when you were talking about famitsu. Comic magazines were never brought up. Keep lying cocksucker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313306
>This is how casualization starts.


/jp/ has been like this for a while. Just leave and never look back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313316


Famitsu isn't a comic magazine. Jesus Christ on a stick you're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313315

It doesn't have to be linked to any board. /a/ and /v/ tards lurk here all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313000
>casual
I'm probably what you'd call a VN casual. I've only touched a handful of VNs and completed less. But the stuff I play tends to be praised on /jp/, at least before it gets translated anyway. (Higurashi, MLA, Muramasa, Baldr Sky)

I'm a bit of an all rounder, so I try out all sorts of VNs, LNs, Anime, Manga, videogames, and so on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313321
>Yeah, when magazine subscriptions don't number into the millions and animated movies aren't regular box office hits, maybe I'll consider believing you.
I was referring to magazines of all kinds, including game and comic magazines. And hey, guess what! Idol fanaticism doesn't extend to Famitsu, either, so your retard logic is still dead in the water.

>>11313310
Pretty much any search for カチューシャ and 5500. Yes, none of them are on, like, the fucking Mainichi, but you didn't exactly link me to the New York Times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313288
>cherry pick
That was just what happened to be at the end of the thread.
>>11313240
Only to people who know absolutely nothing about it. People who have watched anime outside of toonami know otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313306
>>11313323
I thought we hated wota. I'm behind the times...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313315
What is there to be jealous of?

If they want to learn nip they can do so, if they don't care to it doesn't say anything about them. You know, the whole "A man who doesn't speak greek isn't stupid, he's simply a man who doesn't speak greek".

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313339
>I was referring to magazines of all kinds

You're a terrible liar. Just terrible. You clearly were talking about famitsu when you said magazines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313343
People who have even watched Toonami already know more about anime than 90% of Westerners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313353
I wasn't, but if you refuse to believe that, fine. My statement becomes:

"There's a reason a few deranged individuals will blow tens of thousands of dollars to support their oshi and that logic simply does not extend to buying a thousand subscriptions to the same gaming magazine."

Which is still true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313339
>including game and comic magazines.

Why would you lump them together? Comic mags aren't niche and has no real huge niche demograph behind it. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and you're backpedaling now.

>>11313339
>Pretty much any search

Burden of proof is on you. Telling me to "Google it" subtle doesn't change that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313345
I haven't seen anybody seriously try to troll the idol thread off the board in years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313346

Keep telling yourself that. I have to remind myself how pathetic the Eigo only fags are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313358

That statement is retarded because it implies VIPPERs are only wota.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313361
I think it's more because we gave up than anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313362
>Why would you lump them together?
I was responding to your original statement about how there's "no such thing as part time ota who's really a normie like we have on /a/v/co/ etc" which presumably includes anime, comics, and games.

>Burden of proof is on you.
http://getnews.jp/archives/118643
http://rocketnews24.com/2011/05/26/akb48%E3%81%AE%E3%83%8B%E3%83%A5%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0%E3%83%AB%E3%81%8C%E3%83%9F%E3%83%AA%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E9%81%94%E6%88%90%E9%96%93%E8%BF%91-1%E4%BA%BA%E3%81%A75500%E6%9E%9A/

None of these are mainstream news, but it's still enough to suggest that some chink buying 5500 CDs is a notable event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313368
So, go on, show me how it's a regular occurrence for tons of random VIPPERs who aren't wota (by the way, your "evidence" consisted of somebody who wasn't even a fucking VIPPER in the first place) to buy two thousand copies of things that's aren't idol-related. I asked you about this half an hour ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313371
>I was responding to your original statement about how there's "no such thing as part time ota who's really a normie like we have on /a/v/co/ etc" which presumably includes anime, comics, and games.

How does that justify it? Why are you linking two completely unrelated things? You sound like a stupid subber from animesuki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313380
I had originally been intending to talk mostly about comic magazines, since those subscriptions actually do number into the many millions, whereas Famitsu barely scrapes one.

>How does that justify it?
You lumped together anime, cartoons, and video games yourself. I guess you're the only one who's allowed to do such things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313377

I'll pass. First it's they won't buy more than a thousand. When I prove they do, now it's only wota will buy that much. All you're doing is raising the goal post.

[Anonymous No.]

And now you're advertising it here... because?

Oh you want an actual /jp/er truly knows Japanese to translate it for you. I get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313389
>I had originally been intending to talk mostly about comic magazines

Where?

>>11313389
>You lumped together anime, cartoons, and video games yourself

Are you braindead? I was critiquing people who lump them together. I never lumped them together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313391
I haven't moved the goalpost at fucking all. Here's the original goal:

>Pretty sure nobody's going out and buying a hundred subscriptions to the same magazine, because that would be, like, fucking stupid. Buying a hundred tickets to see a movie is SLIGHTLY more reasonable but still stupid.

I never asked for idol shit in the first place, so for me to ask you for something isn't moving the fucking goalposts, they're exactly where they were.

Okay, two thousand is too high for non-wota. Let's settle for something reasonable, like, say, three hundred.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do you guys even care about VIPPERs? It's a /b/ level retard containment board full of 厨房.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313393
Moogy-heika-dono-sama is already translating it

Partial patch ETA: March, 2035

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313401
>Here's the original goal:

That's not the post you made which I'm talking about. are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313397
When I first mentioned magazines, that was my intent. I had intended to mention Famitsu only for the rating. I doubt you will believe me, but that's fine; it's not necessary to any of the arguments I was making.

>Are you braindead? I was critiquing people who lump them together. I never lumped them together.
My bad. I thought you were making fun of the "casuals" who infest boards like /a/, /v/, and /co/, not the people who make no distinction between them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313407
Oh? Which is it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313401
>I never asked for idol shit in the first place

Why would that matter? You implied that someone wouldn't buy something over 1000 times. You didn't even specify what that thing they would buy is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313364
It's posts like yours that make me wonder whether you all truly spend years studying just to read raw VNs or if putting yourself on the elitist pedestal is the more rewarding achievement.

Cause there are a lot quicker ways to boost your own ego without learning a language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313417

This post I made:
>>11313259
>Why would you assume they only purchase just 1000 copies?

Which you responded with this:

>>11313265

>Why would you even entertain the thought that they buy more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313421
>Cause there are a lot quicker ways to boost your own ego without learning a language.

Not really. Making fun of EOPs begging for translations is pretty damn fun. So fun that plenty of people who can't even speak Japanese pretend to speak it just to troll peasants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313421
The quickest way is to just pretend you learned the language like senior troll here is doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313418
I spent like, ten fucking posts in a row asking you what kind of retard would buy a hundred magazine subscriptions, because you kept insisting VIPPERs would.

>But if a THOUSAND fucking VIPPERS all purchased a THOUSAND magazine subscriptions each, that wouldn't even be half of the current circulation. And that's just fucking obviously not happening.
>Why would you assume they only purchase just 1000 copies?

I am aware that there are crazy wota out there. Everybody knows that shit, you can learn it just by scrolling past the AKB thread during election season. So far, you've provided me a chink, and some guy who's almost certainly not a VIPPER. Great. Still waiting on those magazines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313402
I read in a previous thread that VIPPERs were at the heart of otaku culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313439
>I spent like, ten fucking posts in a row asking you what kind of retard would buy a hundred magazine subscriptions, because you kept insisting VIPPERs would.

Yes, because VIPPERs buy multiple copies of things for support and I brought them up because you said famitsu. Which a niche group might have vested interest in. That's literally it.

>>11313439
>So far, you've provided me a chink, and some guy who's almost certainly not a VIPPER. Great. Still waiting on those magazines.

I posted more than one link. I'll post one of a Japanese person next time. Don't see how that takes away from anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313421

You gotta understand that because there are so many EOP. people can boost there ego by interpreting Japan for the English speaking world. Alot of vloggers in japan do this, even if their Japanese is shitty. It gets you alot of social credit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313453
>Yes, because VIPPERs buy multiple copies of things for support.
Sure. Lots of people will do that. Even in our very own idol threads we have people who have bought, five, even ten copies of the same thing to support their oshi because nobody else fucking likes her. But what you suggested is that it's totally plausible for a VIPPER to buy a hundred subscriptions to the same magazine. That, I don't see.

>But if a THOUSAND fucking VIPPERS all purchased a THOUSAND magazine subscriptions each, that wouldn't even be half of the current circulation. And that's just fucking obviously not happening.
>Why would you assume they only purchase just 1000 copies?

Sure sounds like you're replying to my post about magazines here.

>But if a THOUSAND fucking VIPPERS all purchased a THOUSAND magazine subscriptions each, that wouldn't even be half of the current circulation.
>Why would you assume they only purchase just 1000 copies [of AKB CDs]?

This would make no goddamn sense.

We all know that crazy wota will spend unreal amounts of money to support their idols. I mentioned it in >>11313278, even before I read your first response.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313469
>it's totally plausible for a VIPPER to buy a hundred subscriptions to the same magazine. That, I don't see.

That's actually not what I suggested. What I'm suggesting is that niche elements within gaming would support a magazine like famitsu. Because there is a big niche side to gaming no different to the niche side to Japanese music.

>Sure sounds like you're replying to my post about magazines here.

Which magazines, you didn't bother to specify. I assumed it was gaming magazines not any magazine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313463
Huh, I thought a lot of these people learned the language for the sole purpose of reading without any intention of speaking it regularly let alone actually visiting the country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313485

They do, I was just giving an example. It's not just anime fandom that does this. It can be argued that Japanese culture tends to attract this kind of elitism from dumb westerners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313484
>What I'm suggesting is that niche elements within gaming would support a magazine like famitsu.
That's plausible, I guess? I dunno. I just don't think people care that much about keeping a magazine afloat. Certainly not anything close to what you get with idols.

>Which magazines, you didn't bother to specify. I assumed it was gaming magazines not any magazine.
It barely matters at this point, since I misinterpreted your original "part time ota who's really a normie like we have on /a/v/co/" post anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

I know it's you, queen bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313402
I dunno, that doesn't look anywhere near as shitty as /b/.

[Lt. Kerrigan !WnYA1htnTU No.]

>>11313512
This is the second time in four years that anybody has recognized my posts. I'm truly honored that all the work I've put into developing a unique posting style has finally paid off. It really means a lot to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313499
>That's plausible, I guess? I dunno. I just don't think people care that much about keeping a magazine afloat. Certainly not anything close to what you get with idols.

That's because depending on the magazine. You can get enough normal support. The more niche something is the more it has to rely on that model of less people buying more meaning Vippers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313520
You're my rival, I need to be able to at least recognize you. Feminists are still monsters who want to destroy the love and happiness of otaku by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I into VIPPER?

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ really is the best board. Even are feminist trolls are creative. Hey queen bitch, do you have big tits?

[Lt. Kerrigan !WnYA1htnTU No.]

>>11313534
I look forward to meeting you on the field of battle again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313402
Seriously?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313556
Oops, meant to quote >>11313515

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313556


I don't get it, was he trying to say Chuni?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313574
He's literally in middleschool. Posting on Japanese /b/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313577

3rd gen otaku tend to be underage. Nothing surprising.

[/jp/ Muramasa fan and proud No.]

All the butthurt ITT coming from EOPs and crossboarders just confirms how are /jp/ Muramasa fans superior to other races, gook-worshipping EOPs and posters from the other boards. /jp/ Muramasa fans are truly the pinnacle of human perfection. The true master race.

Success breeds jealousy, my friends.

[Anonymous No.]

wich muramasa wud u fuk?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313885
You mean grandfather, mom, or daughter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313885
The mom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313925
This.

Also how old was sansei when she became a spider? They grow super fast right? My guess is 10 years old.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313885

this one >>11313851

[Anonymous No.]

>>11313885
Any answer that isn't Kageaki is WRONG

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311389
>>11311381

[Anonymous No.]

I hear that this game doesn't have a strong focus on romance. Fuck this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Are you faggots serious? Muramasa isn't nearly as difficult as anything by Soseki, Tanizaki, Kawabata, or Mishima, and those have been in translation for dozens of years. It's not impossible to translate while keeping the meaning, stop kidding yourselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11316988
I'm pretty sure those are translated by professional translators and professors who study Japanese literature rather than some 22 year old kid. Not to mention that just because a translation exists doesn't mean it keeps all of the meaning. I think translations of novels tend to use somewhat frequent translation notes to handle that stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11314461
But nobody fucks Kageaki. Kageaki fucks them.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy fuck /jp/ you sound like buttfrustrated weeaboo hipsters. You used to take it easy and enjoy your hobbies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11317631
I can't enjoy my hobbies with normals vandalizing everything with their ignorant opinions. They should never even touch eroge to begin with, it's not for them and their epic college bros.

[Anonymous No.]

first time in /jp/

what is EOPs?

Also, yo cant get fl_ent in a lang_age in 2 years, it takes a lot more than that, specially if yo_r main lang_age is western. And its not wasted jst becase nobody speaks is. Im thinking abo_t learning japanese, any thoghts on that?

and my keyboard is broken as yo_ might have noticed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11317732
English only peasant

[Anonymous No.]

>>11317745

do you speak something else too or just english?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11317750
Just English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11317754

I can understand why people get mad with newfags/EOPs, reddit or anything casual. Newcomers tend to bring back overused stuff. I've learned to move on/quit the community. Big reddits are awful, like really awful. The small ones like /r/3dma have been really helpful.

Also, my question still stands. What are people's thoughts on learning japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11317765
It's a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11317771

why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311130

Look at how elite he is!

He copied and pasted the title of the game in Japanese characters from VNDB right in the middle of his English sentence.

This proves to me that he can read and write Japanese fluently!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11321722
looks like someone's made

[Anonymous No.]

>251 posts and 13 image replies omitted. Click here to view.
Read a book or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11317772
Cause Japanese is really only useful if you choose to visit Japan or wanna read untranslated games/LN's/Mango/animu/VN's. Otherwise it doesn't have as much value in the world as say Chinese, Spanish, Arabic, or what have you does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11322240
Who the fuck care about that "value in the world"?

[Anonymous No.]

MLA WAS BETTER WITHOUT TRANSLATION!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11322267
If you're going to invest a lot of time and money into a language you're going to have to justify the whole thing. For every hour you spend on ching chong nig nog that's an hour you could be working.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11322286
The logic of an ant
I only have to justify shit to myself

[Anonymous No.]

>>11322291
what's your job?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11322291
I'm not talking abut justifying to anyone other than yourself. Don't you want to spend your time wisely? As in, in a way that most rewards you? If you really believe that learning Japanese to read a few weeb things meant for young adults is going to bring you more long-term happiness than otherwise, go ahead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11322320
maybe you should take your own advice and stop posting on 4chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>11322320
Your logic is fucking stupid.
Are you a diplomat? Are you a CIA agent? are you planning on becoming one? If not why the fuck do you think learning arabic or spanish would be more wise?
There is no better reason to learn something than for your hobby, I actually enjoy all these "few weeb things" and have been doing so for years.
I actually never regretted learning anything, even stuffs I barely use these days. But you are probably just saying this to justify your laziness.

[Anonymous No.]

Hebrew is the only language worth learning because it lets you try to blend in with the superior race.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11322494
My nigga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11311219
You are literally retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11322291

If you don't have to justify anything. Why bother asking if you "should" learn Japanese? Do what you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11317765
>What are people's thoughts on learning japanese?

You should learn it and stop being an EOP.

[Muraboy No.]

Friggin HELL JAST WTF