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9991062 No.9991062 [Reply] [Original]

Are you ever concerned that might start getting off to real CP? And that you might even go on to molest real children?

>> No.9991072

No.

>> No.9991067

Never.

>> No.9991075

No, I'm far to neurotic to pursue anything like that; besides, it would be a lot of effort.

>> No.9991076

I'm too lazy to set up tor. Laziness will always save you. The same goes with child molestation, it's too much work for too little payoff. They just grow up in a few years.

>> No.9991077

Kids are awful.

>> No.9991096

Real CP sure. Real CP isn't intrinsically harmful, or somehow 'worse' than 2D or junior idol photos.
Molesting real children, well that's a whole different ballgame, not a natural evolution of fapping to CP.

>> No.9991114

нет

>> No.9991118

>>9991062
I don't even give yaoi, yuri or anything like that as well as loli/shota a chance because I'm affraid it might transition into liking the real deal. Not to mention loli and shota would probably put me in some kind of sexual predator watch list immediately.

I do hate it when high-school girls are tagged as loli for no reason besides having a modest chest. I probably already am in said sexual predator watch lists for enjoying such works.

>> No.9991129

>>9991096
>Real CP sure. Real CP isn't intrinsically harmful, or somehow 'worse' than 2D or junior idol photos.

Psychological damage to the children involved?

>> No.9991130

>>9991118
Are all Americans this afraid of everything?

>> No.9991138

>>9991130
I'm from Europe.

>> No.9991142

>>9991129
How am I psychologically damaging anyone by fapping to real CP? Sure you can say the children were harmed in the production of the photos, but whether I pirate those photos or not doesn't change anything. You could say that funding the production of CP is in effect harming people through proxy, but pirating, well that doesn't effect anything.

>> No.9991144

>>9991062
Tried with my little sister, it's quite boring.
Reality does not live up to the fantasy at all.

>> No.9991147

>>9991129
That isn't a valid reason, most of them are probably adults by now. You could argue that people are making money from clicks or something, but not looking at CP somehow hurts the people in the photgraph.

>> No.9991149

>>9991144
was it better than your average onahole?

>> No.9991167

>>9991149
I wouldn't dare. I just tried having her give me a HJ in a dark closet, but it didn't feel like i expected.
brb FBI at the door.

>> No.9991174

>>9991118
>thinking you're on some sort of sexual predator watch list

I'm sorry to oxidize your tin-foil hat like this, but there is far, far too much information transmitted everyday for anyone who isn't on both sides of a connection to track it all.

given that most IPs have been subnetted 3-4 times before they even reach your home, it's safe to assume that the powers that be don't have the resources to waste on your Internet activity. That said, they could always pull the logs of the local hub for the last 180 days or so, but this would require getting your ISP to comply.

Always remember that the more hops along a route a piece of information takes, the harder it is to track.

>> No.9991172

Nope.

3DCP doesn't do anything for me. Makes me a little sad, if anything. They're entirely different things, in my mind.

Abducting a child is just unthinkable - pedophiles don't do that; no "child lover" would put their own sexual desire ahead of that they supposedly "love". They are rapists, they just happen to rape children.

>> No.9991190

People don't go loli/cp ---> molest kids.
Its an outlet that lets off some steam when the urge arises so the person does not have to resort to raping irl.

>> No.9991194

>>9991174
I have a static ip. Also this is besides the point. Even if I weren't so paranoid about this there's also the issue of me being paranoid enough to think that jacking off to yaoi will end up messing with my sexuality. Thanks for trying to bring me some sort of peace of mind, though.

>> No.9991197

>>9991118
/jp/ turned me gay. True story.

>> No.9991205

>>9991129
The "damage" you speak of is created by our cultural norms, not a photograph.
Not to mention all of the little girls that posed nude in Japanese photobooks in the 80s-90s and grew up to be perfectly normal human beings.

>> No.9991206

>>9991174

>I'm sorry to oxidize your tin-foil hat like this

Tin-foil is actually aluminium foil, which is readily oxidised in air - all aluminium one sees, aside from that which has been freshly cut, or reduced (eg: with acid), has an oxide layer already.

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>>9991062
Real CP? No.
Real pictures of cute little girls being adorable? Why not?

>> No.9991213

>>9991197
I've read the stories. I'm trying my best to stay heterossexual.

>> No.9991217

Drawn lolicon / junior idols
Softcore CP
Hardcore CP
Molestation

Most people don't ever take the second step.

>> No.9991218

>>9991205
This. Child sexual experiences are not inherently traumatic. Its the narrative later constructed around those experiences by legal and psychological professionals and told to the child that creates the trauma.

>> No.9991219

>>9991205
I'd say it's caused by a combination of our cultural norms and the photograph. Taken individually, neither is damaging. Taken together, both contribute to a single problem.

>> No.9991220

>>9991206
Ha, get a load of this dork.

>> No.9991221

>>9991209
Don't mods hate it when fully clothed little girls are posted?

>> No.9991226

Michael Briere, a lifelong paedophile in Canada who abducted, raped, and killed a 10-year-old girl, said in court, "for myself, I would say that, yes; viewing the material does motivate you to do other things. In my case, for sure. The more I saw, the more I longed for it in my heart. The more I wanted it. And that's the one time where I actually tried to do it..."

>> No.9991227

>>9991221
moderators are terrified of pedophiles

>> No.9991233

>>9991213

Why?

You have to be latently homosexual already for it to happen. Why would you intentionally repress your sexuality.

I attempted it for a number of years, but never really progressed in homosexuality.

Slightly disappointing, if anything.

>> No.9991243

>>9991174
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narus_%28company%29

>> No.9991245

>>9991206
Thank you; I was taking Tin literally, but that's a cool tidbit about metallurgy.

>> No.9991248

>>9991226
I'm so sure he said
"longed for it in my heart"
It's an important skill to recognize propaganda when you see it!

>> No.9991252

>>9991226

Not a representative sample, nor a scientific study.

You're as bad as those that make the "connection" between viewing violent content and going on homicidal rampages.

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>>9991221
Most mods and janitors are Americans, Canadians or Brits who live in terminal fear of censorship and thoughtcrime laws imposed upon them by nanny state regimes. I don't really blame the mods though, sadly images like this are technically illegal in many western countries.

>> No.9991256

>>9991248
It doesn't even sound implausible. He clearly wanted it very much.

>> No.9991262

>>9991255
CP is all about intent. Since you are posting this with the intent of arousing people sexually, it's basically porn.

>> No.9991263

>>9991226

Who gives a shit? Jeffery Dahmer said vanilla porn motivated him, was the sole reason he raped, ate and murdered so many people.

The words of a psychopath don't mean shit, and they don't apply to everyone.

>> No.9991266

>>9991262
Whoa shit.

>> No.9991274

>>9991256
The media will always seek to represent that which reflects the image mainstream society has of itself.
To quote George Orwell
'Unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without the need for any official ban. Anyone who has lived long in a foreign country will know of instances of sensational items of news - things which on their own merits would get the big headlines - being kept right out of the British press, not because the Government intervened but because of a general tacit agreement that 'it wouldn't do' to mention that particular fact. So far as the daily newspapers go, this is easy to understand. The British press is extremely centralized, and most of it is owned by wealthy men who have every motive to be dishonest on certain important topics. But the same kind of veiled censorship also operates in books and periodicals, as well as in plays, films and radio. At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed that all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to say this, that or the other, but it is 'not done' to say it, just as in mid-Victorian times it was 'not done' to mention trousers in the presence of a lady. Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness. A genuinely unfashionable opinion is almost never given a fair hearing, either in the popular press or in the highbrow periodicals.'

>> No.9991269

>>9991226
John Smith, a life long paedophile in Canada who neither abducted, raped, or killed anyone said to himself in his room "for myself, I would say that, no; viewing the material does not motivate you to do the other things. In my case, for sure. No matter how much I saw, I did not long for it in my heart. I did not want it. And there was no time where I actually tried to do it."

>> No.9991272

>>9991248
Pedophiles are eloquent and well-spoken people.

>> No.9991280

Child pornography isn't going to turn well-adjusted people into child rapists, but it may give people child rape fantasies which particularly maladjusted specimens may attempt to act out.

If they never had access to CP they might not have ever developed those fantasies, the same way that half of you are into really weird shit but probably wouldn't be into really weird shit if the lewdest thing you could masturbate to was the Sears catalog.

>> No.9991288

>>9991256
Any number of pepole could have made that sentence up.
If one person says cp drove them to rape, it gets massive priority over 100 people who say cp prevents them from raping.

>> No.9991293

>>9991226
I walked by this cute girl and got hard at the idea of abducting her.

>> No.9991299

>>9991197
/jp/ didn't turn you gay. It simply exposed you to and made you realized that you are aroused by gay material.

>> No.9991300

>>9991280
But there are children in Sears catalogues. Some are even in swimsuits.

>> No.9991301
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>>9991262
So if I post this with the intent to discuss how adorable her cheeks are, it doesn't count as CP, but if I post it to get people off, it does?

Her cheeks are adorable.

>> No.9991306

>>9991280
On the other hand, while it probably does make the total number of people who have child rape fantasies go up, it probably also makes the percentage of people who may ever act out on these fantasies lower. So there's a trade-off.

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>>9991243
I hate to do this but:
>implying they're wasting processor time on tracking the public at large instead of a specific number of targets and
>implying ECHELON has anything to do with traffic below tier 3
>implying real pedos aren't using private/deep networks with encryption

This is indeed worrisome, but the shear density of traffic on the pubic internet would need a lot more processing power to do packet capture, decrypt, analyze, store, and resend everything in real time.

>> No.9991310

>>9991301
Yes. Do you think parents take bath photos because they get turned on by their kids? Of course, not.

It's just that this is 4chan and all, so I doubt you are that pure minded.

>> No.9991315
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9991315

I think that I might have ACCIDENTALLY saved cp pictures from the check guy who posts it every night.

How do I find them and delete them if the are lost among thousands of GB of images?

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>>9991274
What poppycock. The moment we get rid of our humility and stiff upper lip is the moment the terrorists have won.

>> No.9991317

1. I don't see why I would think lewd of 3D I don't love.
2. I'm already in love with someone so I would never betray him.

>> No.9991321

>>9991315
> ACCIDENTALLY

Likely story.

>> No.9991335

/jp/ has the best pedophilia discussions on 4chan.

>> No.9991337

>>9991315
modified dates, if you remember them; I would use Catfish, but that's for GNU/Linux.

>> No.9991338

>>9991316
Orwell is speaking of Britain but you could apply that quote to literally every western nation as centralized press and homogeneity of cultural and social orthodoxy is now ubiquitous the world over.

>> No.9991351

How long until the absurdity of pedohysteria is recognised?

No doubt, some other form of thought crime will exist by then, to take its place.

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>>9991338
Fascinating.

>> No.9991350

>ITT: brainwashed pedos who believe they have a mental disorder because ooooh the DMS is so objective and not brainwashed! And they surely have a lot of normal pedos to study, because they all feel free to get out of the toybox! They didn't study a bunch of mentally deranged molesters with lack of self-control who aren't even pedophiles to study pedophilia, no way!

>> No.9991357

>>9991335
If these are good, I can only imagine what everyone else's look like.

>> No.9991371

Will I get in trouble if someone finds this on my HDD?

http://board.sweetnote.com/airashii/thread/2012091911472871/

>> No.9991375

>>9991346
The only thing you can do is define your own orthodoxy apart from that of your nation and medial. Fapping to CP is not only personally gratifying, it is an act of rebellion against the corporate nanny state and it's homogenizing and pacifying media arm

>> No.9991378

>>9991350
DMS doesn't consider you a pedophile unless it interferes with your daily life.

>> No.9991387

>>9991311
>But, in practical terms, since individual internet connections are not continually filled to capacity, the 10 Gbit/s capacity of one NarusInsight installation enables it to monitor the combined traffic of several million broadband users.

They have the bandwidth and the raw processing power. It's algorithms they're lacking.

It wouldn't surprise me if 4chan is on some sort of ECHELON watchlist. That's not to say they go after every person who makes a dumb post, but it would be almost trivial to cross-reference a post with some ISP data to see who posted it. Not to mention that moot is required by law to hold onto his server logs for at least six months, and to hand them over if law enforcement asks.
I agree they're not going after individuals one-by-one, but one of these days they'll do it in bulk. "Hello Mr Poole, we need the IP addresses and user agents of the following 8,192 posters. Please forward us the relevant logs."
This is how non-distributors usually get caught if they aren't reported.

Here in the UK, Operation Ore was a police operation to catch a whole bunch of CP downloaders and distributors. From Wikipedia:
>leading to 7,250 suspects identified, 4,283 homes searched, 3,744 arrests, 1,848 charged, 1,451 convictions, 493 cautioned and 140 children removed from suspected dangerous situations and an estimated 33 suicides.

This was in 1999. With today's technology and surveillance, it wouldn't surprise me to see a huge crackdown soon. Britain may basically be a police state, but in terms of legislation and technology the US is far more terrifying than we are.

>> No.9991393

>>9991351
Never. Homohysteria at least HAD some detractors other than the homos themselves.

And it wasn't in the internet era, so the hysteria didn't extend to the whole fucking world.

At least, if something like hell exists, these fucking pedohaters will go there and suffer for all eternity. The funny part is that, for them, we are the bad people and we are the ones going to hell, lol.

>> No.9991407

>>9991393
If you are Catholic, pedophilia is now considered a mortal sin. Not child molestation, simply pedophilia.

>> No.9991411

>>9991351
Normals seem to accept that it's a moral panic, but you can't say anything against it. Saying, "Maybe we're getting too up-in-arms with these pedophile witch hunts," is equivalent to saying, "You know, those Holocaust revisionists have a point..."

>>9991378
They're broadening the criteria next year:
http://www.dsm5.org/ProposedRevision/Pages/proposedrevision.aspx?rid=186
It still has the "marked distress or impairment" clause, though.

>> No.9991417

>>9991407
Isn't all lust a sin? That one Pope decided it in his fan fiction which later became canon.

>> No.9991431

>>9991393
The best we can hope for is that the definition of pedophile becomes more widely understood and the terms 'pedophile' and 'child molester/sex offender' become divorced.
That being said I expect censorship to only increase as corporate/political powers gain more control over the internet and a generation of people pumped full of paranoid, hysterical public serive sermons in their elementary school classrooms reach adulthood.

>> No.9991432

No one pays for CP. NO FUCKING ONE. You don't "help" the creators by downloading it from somewhere. Hell, you sure as fuck don't help them by downloading it from 4chan.

And they will do it anyways, they don't fuck children for the money, they fuck them because they like it (most of them aren't pedos, just losers who can't cope with women or bastards who want to feel power).

But how the hell could we tell the world the truth about cp? If you know anything about it, you can go to jail for obvious reasons. The truth has the same weight than the lies, since no one can legally watch it and see how it works.

And what the fuck is wrong with the retards who see kids in TV wearing some "sexy" clothes and call it cp? Real pedophiles don't like kids dressed like whores, they like kids that behave like kids. God.

>> No.9991433

>>9991411
To be fair, the holocaust revisionists do have some points. You have to be an idiot to say otherwise.

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>>9991311
>shear density

>> No.9991441

>>9991387
Weren't the Operation Ore raids based on credit card information rather than IP logs?

>> No.9991444

>>9991417
No, lust lures people to commit sin. It is the source of sin, not a sin itself.

>> No.9991453

>>9991431
Pedophile = anyone sexually attracted to another person under the age of 21; a child molester by default, because by having lewd thoughts you are abusing innocent children

Hebephile, ephebophile, lolicon = code words used by pedophiles to hide they fact they want to ruin your children's lives

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>>9991411
Those holocaust revisionists DO have a point

>> No.9991454

Putting the holocaust revisionism and pedophilia thing together can only possibly ever hurt your cause.

>> No.9991456

>>9991432
People are still making profit from it. The same way torrent sites make money.

>> No.9991468

>>9991461
I have. It never goes well. The worst part is that I can try to provide proof and evidence to defend my position, but they never will try to address or disprove any of it.

>> No.9991461

>>9991433
I agree. Now try saying that in public or in the mass media.

>> No.9991472

>>9991432
>But how the hell could we tell the world the truth about cp? If you know anything about it, you can go to jail for obvious reasons. The truth has the same weight than the lies, since no one can legally watch it and see how it works.

Wikileaks is still fashionable, right?

http://mirror.wikileaks.info/wiki/An_insight_into_child_porn/index.html

>> No.9991479

>>9991472
Nobody cares about Wikileaks unless it compromises someone.

>> No.9991486

>>9991468
I know what you mean. I told a close friend who I can normally tell anything that I'm a lolicon. I explained that I was only attracted to 2D children and that a study found cartoon pedophilia harmless.
"Yeah, but it's still creepy, though."

>> No.9991490

>>9991411
>Normals seem to accept that it's a moral panic
Yes, but...

Normals: "HEY HEY STOP THIS MORAL PANIC YOU CAN'T ARREST A GUY FOR DATING A 14 YEARS OLD, LIKING TEENAGERS ISN'T THE SAME AS BEING A DISGUSTING PEDO"

They complain about the moral panic turning every man into a pedo. We complain about pedophilia itself being misunderstood.

I just want people to undestand it, I won't even argue about kids being capable of consenting to sex... I'm beggining to hate everyone, even my family... This is tiresome.

A quick question: Is a kiss considered "molesting"?

>> No.9991482

>>9991456
Torrent sites make from advertising. Are you retarded?

>> No.9991500

>>9991490
I do not believe so, as long as that is all it is. But you can be damn sure people will be gearing up to beat your ass.

>> No.9991499

>>9991486
His point is entirely subjective, and therefore valid. Personally I the concept of dating sites 'creepy' but thats just me.

>> No.9991504

>>9991482
Then you're agreeing with him. People don't have to buy the product directly. TV shows are a classic example. The creators are making money through advertising (well, at least until home releases started).

>> No.9991509

>>9991504
Are you saying child pornographers are making money from advertising? Thats just plain full retard

>> No.9991511

>>9991482
>Torrent sites make from advertising. Are you retarded?

Real CP is distributed via IRC, onion-net, and tunneled p2p first. Torrents are secondary distributions.

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>>9991490
>A quick question: Is a kiss considered "molesting"?
I once made a thread somewhere on 4chan to ask that. Most people told me that yes, it is. It made me really depressed.

>> No.9991517

>>9991490
Maybe I misinterpreted the point of your scenario but to most people, 14-year-olds are a no-go. 14 is the default age on To Catch a Predator, and every week I see some news story about how a pedophile molested a 14-year-old girl. That's how this whole Jimmy Savile thing started.

>> No.9991527

have masturbate to real CP

would never molest a kid..they are disgusting

>> No.9991528

>>9991509
Yes? Plenty of CP sites have ads. CP isn't illegal anywhere and it's not against all advertisers' terms of service.

>> No.9991529

>>9991519

Twelve and a half is old enough for kisses (Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWZ3EHjUx_E))

>> No.9991530

>>9991519
I think it depends on if it's a friendly kiss on the cheek or forehead or if you are trying to french kiss her.

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>>9991528
>CP isn't illegal anywhere

>> No.9991541

>>9991529

WOAH

>> No.9991544

>>9991537
Everywhere

>> No.9991546

>>9991537
oh shit i meant everywhere FUCK

>> No.9991547

>>9991519
Oh, crap. Still, I won't even try it anyways, so I don't care. The food full of hormones is lowering puberty from 12-13 to 9.

It will get worse. They are attacking from all angles.

>> No.9991554

Can't wait for marriage to become compulsivity to prove one isn't a pedophile.

>> No.9991558

>>9991554
That doesn't make sense, most child molestation occurs within the family. It's possible to be married to a woman, yet still be a pedophile.

>> No.9991566

>>9991517
Pretty sure the vast majority of the things he did were non-consensual.

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9991570

Remainder that women have the privilege to do this and you don't.

>> No.9991576

>>9991566
Well duh, 14-year-olds can't consent.

>> No.9991577

>>9991570

Please don't turn this into yet another feminism thread.

>> No.9991580

>>9991570
I really wish I could make out with my 11yo brother.

>> No.9991582

>>9991576
Obviously that's not what I meant.

>> No.9991585

>>9991576

Tell that to Mexico and Colombia.

Age of consent is 12. What the actual fuck.

>> No.9991590

>>9991582
I know, you meant he raped them.

TL note: "rape" is when a man has sex with a girl under 16.

>> No.9991603

>>9991590
That's because statutory rape is still rape.

>> No.9991597

>>9991585
Setting it so high that half of high school students are criminals upon graduation doesn't make that much sense either.

>> No.9991604

I just told my mother. My father is a retarded redneck, fuck him.

I had to explain everything to her, very slowly and multiple times. She ended up undestanding it somewhat. Her main points were:

>SO YOU DON'T LIKE WOMEN I FEEL SAD FOR YOU
No, mom. I like 40% women and 60% 6-12 girls.

>DON'T TELL YOUR LITTLE BROTHER, HE WILL HAVE KIDS SOMEDAY AND WILL FEAR YOU THEN
Go to hell, mom.

We haven't talked about it again.

>> No.9991610

>>9991604
She was being pretty open-minded about it.

>> No.9991611

>>9991585

Enjoying pediatricians looking after mother AND kids at the same time yet?

>> No.9991614

Thankfully I don't even really like loli, so I don't think there's any danger for me personally.

That said, even a buxom anime girl is still often under 18 according to canon, or she still gets "how old is that girl" reactions, so I assume most people think it's the same thing.

>> No.9991622

>>9991614
Unfortunately, the law usually includes subjective, open phrases like "appears to be".
Normals work in much the same way. They won't care that she's a 300-year-old vampire, she's naked and that's _gross_.

>> No.9991624

>>9991611
You can go up to age 21 and still be considered covered under pediatrics, so it's not that odd.

>> No.9991625

>>9991610
I guess.

But she didn't even try to help me. She was perfectly fine with hiding the truth and having a brainwashed son and husband.

>> No.9991630

I'm in favour of banning CP because I'm in favour of banning all pornography. Lewdness should be stigmatised.

This way neither side gets what they want, and I win.

>> No.9991634

>>9991630
That works.

>> No.9991636

molesting kids involves going outside, fuck off.

>> No.9991644

>>9991636
You could be sitting around in your room and then suddenly a little girl falls in through the ceiling.

>> No.9991644,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>9991517
Completely missed the Jimmy Savile thing...

So, if I get this straight:
1. A commercial TV network airs a documentary alleging that Jimmy Savile (already dead, can't defend himself) abused kids.
2. Before this documentary, nobody had ever mentioned a single thing about being abused by JS.
3. After this documentary, 300 people reported having been abused by JS.
4. The entire scandal is based on allegiations, with no solid proof.
5. All reminders of JS's existence are being erased, with anything named after him being renamed and even his gravestone was removed and destroyed by his family.

Is the above correct? From what I gather, it's all merely accusations of the kind of 'well, he did touch me in a peculiar spot one time', the kind that draws attention whores and lawsuit opportunists, there is no proof, and there are not even allegations of dickings. Has it really become this easy to remove all positive traces of a person's existence...?

>> No.9991644,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>9991644,1
It turned out that people had mentioned it and been ignored because Sir Jimmy Savile's good word was worth more than some random fuck's, who didn't know that there would be some hundred other people coming out to back him up.

>> No.9991644,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>9991644,1
There were some investigations while he was alive. I don't doubt he had sex with youngsters or even that he did it in an uncouth manner, but the extent to which people are taking this is ridiculous. A big problem with our media is that everyone tries to get a slice of the action. Two radio hosts once phoned an actor and said they slept with his burlesque dancer daughter, a few people complained, then a newspaper printed it...suddenly thousands of people are calling for them to lose their jobs over a dumb prank phone call.

In Savile's case, he's fucking dead. I know they're going to posthumously revoke his knighthood if they haven't already. It's a shame because he was otherwise a nice guy and had some good points about the whole CP thing. When Gary Glitter was caught with CP, Savile basically said it shouldn't matter because it was for his own gratification, and he was only targeted because he was a celebrity. Now the exact same thing is happening to him and this quote is being used against him. And he's still fucking dead.

The media makes me want to hit things. I can't take it easy like this.

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