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/jp/ I think I found a cure to your social anxiety and depression.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU

I'm really going to try this.

>> No.9908539

It's a placebo, but go ahead. Porn is nasty and does do terrible things to the psyche.

>> No.9908544

>>9908539
I think I have this problem, but for video games.

I'm actually addicted and I really need to stop.


But when I try really hard not to play video games, I just stay in bed all day, instead of doing stuff I'm suppose to.

Then when I finally get up, I ended up playing games... pls help me.

>> No.9908548 [DELETED] 

>>9908546

Look at this...
>>9908533

>> No.9908553

I don't suffer from either.

>> No.9908562

You probably shouldn't get your hopes up. Normal people look at masturbation as a lower substitute for sex. They feel guilty for doing it because they think they are incapable of doing better. The veteran of /jp/ on the other hand will see it for what it is: a simple nice feeling. In fact, one could even say it is separate normal from sexual desires. It does not harm the self esteem and therefore is not holding you back like the video claims.

>> No.9908563

I can't live without porn sorry.

>> No.9908570

>>9908562
I think you can't argue with neurobiology.

It's all subconscious. Don't you feel that your fetishes are getting weirder and weirder. Or at least you're finding a lot of porn boring?


>>9908563

Just cut down.

>> No.9908589

>>9908570
If you'v been on 4chan for any length beyond 1 month, you'd be aware that fetishes cycle.

>> No.9908594

>>9908570
They have definitely become more weird. I actually did everything through imagination until I stumbled into /d/. However, my point was more that I don't feel like it influences me outside of fapping. I don't feel guilty about it and I don't lust for something more. It simply is what it is.

>> No.9908604

I didn't figure out fapping until I was 18.

Prior to that I was in no way superior to how I am now and had the same problems if not worse. This is just normalfag pandering bullshit.

>> No.9908608

I haven't watched the video but if you're asking me to stop masturbating then I just can't do that (not from a lack of trying)

>> No.9908613

>>9908570
>Don't you feel that your fetishes are getting weirder and weirder. Or at least you're finding a lot of porn boring?

I don't understand that. I'll never get tired of /l/ and /ss/ and inventive ways of girls masturbating.

>> No.9908615

Video games are infinitely more debilitating to my well-being than masturbation, which I don't do that often.

I had my first wet dream in a couple years yesterday.

>> No.9908618

I'm already trying to quit it though.

>> No.9908623

I'm with you, OP!

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I like this slide

>> No.9908655

Pretty interesting vid. My only complaint is that they used anecdotes from le reddit as some sort of proof.

>> No.9908675

I did exactly what you're implying OP. I Quit porn over 6 months ago and it DID help my social ability. I still don't like going outside but I converse much better with people now. I'm also much less depressed

A+ I'd reccomend it

>> No.9908686

>>9908533
crossboarding from /f/ too brother?

>> No.9908688

>>9908533
I can confirm this study is accurate 100% for me, but I can also confirm from my own research and experimentation that there are other solutions than what he has mentioned.

So you can end up finding a good middle ground or pushing both sides of the spectrum.

You don't have to dedicate the same skill points to both attributes. They're in different trees, however you will lose the specialization bonus in some cases.

I hope this makes sense.

>> No.9908702

normal propaganda

>> No.9908751
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9908751

i think he's right about high speed access escalating porn use. i mean, that should be obvious. the first thing i thought about when i discovered we just got cable internet to replace our dialup was how much quicker i'd be able to browse for and download media.

my main problem as a youngster was never being able to find good porn because page loads took too long, and i was too ignorant to find the good stuff. today, i've got H@H running 24/7 to amass credits, and i browse e-hentai every morning downloading whatever catches my eye. i have such a massive porn backlog and it never gets any smaller. i've totally streamlined the porn finding process and now it's completely unavoidable.

digimon is mostly to blame for all of my fetishes and interests starting from a very young age. especially these slutty bitches right here.

>> No.9908767

Once upon a time I lived in a dorm full of 63 guys. It was time for me to stop fapping or get made fun of constantly. I fapped a total of maybe 3 times in 19 months. Didn't feel any different. Also, I busted a nut while I was asleep wtf..

>> No.9908775

>>9908570
>Don't you feel that your fetishes are getting weirder and weirder. Or at least you're finding a lot of porn boring?

No, they're getting a lot more vanilla.

>> No.9908781

>>9908570

>I think you can't argue with neurobiology.

Because everybody's the same right

>> No.9908782

>>9908570
>Don't you feel that your fetishes are getting weirder and weirder. Or at least you're finding a lot of porn boring?
My fetishes have remained more or less the same for a long time.

>> No.9908783

4chan is more addictive than porn. This morning I woke up and thought, 'hm, i should look at some porn today, I haven't done that in a while'. But then I hopped on 4chan and I haven't thought about it since. Now I don't have any urge to look at porn at all. It's really killing my solo love life.

>> No.9908799

I love fapping. Not just for the feeling, but for that great period of mind clarity afterwards. I could probably solve all the mysteries of the universe if it could last more than five minutes.

>> No.9908802

Gaming is more stimulating than sex. Doing great in a highly competitive game like counter-strike or dota is a really great feeling.

This feeling is getting number, though. I can go like 18-4 in dota and I just think "well i did okay, i guess." I've felt it so many times.

>> No.9908807

>>9908594
But what I mean is, just wanting to feel good from masturbation is harder, so you got to spend more time on it, and you do it more, and sometimes instead of doing something else, you masturbate, cause you know it feels good.

>> No.9908813

>>9908781
Well the same hormones and the same neurotransmitters have similar effects on the brain and how you respond, it is only when these things fuck up and there's anomalies that, you have problems.

>> No.9908818

>>9908675
You give me hope that I can fix my procrastination problems.

>> No.9908816

>>9908570
>Don't you feel that your fetishes are getting weirder and weirder. Or at least you're finding a lot of porn boring?
Sure, but it's even worse when I'm not fapping regularly. After a few days, it's scary how many things I'm aroused by and willing to fap to.

>> No.9908825

>>9908802
For me, I can't stand winning easy games anymore, I'm just annoyed I wasted time, that I don't have without getting anything out of it.

But those few wins when you're down raxes, and you turn some fight. That is definitely better than masturbation has ever felt.

>> No.9908832

What's this? More jewish mind control propaganda?

>> No.9908834

>>9908813
It isn't as simple as that. Biology has a load of variability even within the same person. You can't take a complex, but relatively simple cellular mechanism and say that it is still as straight forward on the level of the full brain and cognitive capability as a whole. People put far too much faith in neuroscience these days. Studies can make some good suggestions and guesses, but you should never believe anyone who claims that they can strongly correlate something related to higher level thought through current neuroscience.

>> No.9908844

>>9908825
Holy shit this, I used to like getting a massive score in easy games stomping baddies but after a thousand hours of that it's just not appealing, I mostly look for high level scrims and stuff

But it's not even fun anymore, even if I win with a good score I'll be thinking about mistakes I've mad and what I could've done better, such a big time waster
I've spent 1/5 of the past year playing dota...

>> No.9908853

>>9908562
I can admit, I am very comfortable not ever getting a girlfriend, etc. I don't even want to have real sex. I have been past that for a long time.

I'm content with masturbation. It gets the job done.

I also acknowledge it isn't the social norm, but I don't care either.

But if you dwell on it more, you realise it's all just apathy. Which is suppose to be bad, just for your health and stuff, wasting time you don't really have much of on Earth. But because you are apathetic, you don't care you are apathetic. It seems like a vicious cycle.

Now a part of me wants to be happy again, because at least my memories are still there, and I nostalgia so hard sometimes, I genuinely feel happy again. So anyway I can stop this apathy, I will try. I've given up heaps of times. But since I don't care about masturbation, I can probably cut down on it without it affecting me. It doesn't even make me feel good anymore, it's just a routine. So maybe if I can make masturbation mean something to me, by depriving myself. Then I'll have at least that as motivation to do something with my life.

I've even sometimes haplessly stumbled on really old doujins I've read from years ago, and that nostalgia gives me a smile.

I think I've lost my point. But whatever.

>> No.9908867

>>9908844
Yeah, I don't know why I play anymore.

I really want to stop because it's such a time investment. And I never get pissed at others anymore, I just get pissed at myself.

It's definitely fun, and I probably keep playing for a while. But I wish I wouldn't.

I guess I do care about win rates and MMR though.

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>>9908853

>> No.9908874

>>9908844
holy fucking autism

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>>9908867
>it's such a time investment
Tell me about it

Brackets and what pages your games are on has become so important because it's like the only way to measure progress
I wish they would release public MMR so I can at least know I'm getting better

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9908881

That applies to people whose only sexual stimuli comes from drawings?
Also I'd to know what law says about lolicons getting their source of stimuli from anything else than a computer, I know some of you would rather lose both legs than access to the web.

>> No.9908882

>>9908877
Do you idle /jp/ chatroom on dota 2?

I want to look at your stats and stuff.

>> No.9908886

>>9908882
No I don't idle ever, it's all game time

And I'm usually only on the /vg/ one cuz I'm the Steam group admin but generally I don't play with other people from here anyway

>> No.9908893

>>9908886
What are you even doing on this board?

>> No.9908894

>>9908886
Yeah I've never played with people from 4chan, I don't even play with friends that aren't that bad. It's probably just elitism or something though.

>> No.9908900

>>9908893
Not sure, I mostly browse /a/ but I come here once in a while and look at what you guys are talking about

>> No.9908903

Yeah okay, porn addicts exist. more news at 10.

You know what, there are also sex addicts, food addicts, internet addicts, game addictis, gamble addicts, alcoholic, and so on.

That doesn't mean that everyone that uses internet, play games, drink alcohol and so on is or is bound to become an addict.

Also lol at the pathetic generalization that every single man on this planet downloads porn from internet.

>> No.9908907

>>9908900
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vg-DotA#members

So you're one of these guys?

>> No.9908911

He's saying porn can cause erectile dysfunction
I wouldn't mind that

>> No.9908919

I don't really buy any of this, or trust any "study" having to do with sexuality.

I think it's a mental thing. You're just telling yourself that porn/masturbation is the problem.

>> No.9908920

>>9908903
Well obviously we're talking about people that regularly have access to the internet, probably first world. It's not a generalization when it's a statistic.

This is about a potential unrealized "addiction" though. It may not even be bad, but maybe if you've tried ways of stopping your depression and you're open-minded/give a shit enough to care. You might try this.

Obviously not for everyone.

>> No.9908931

>>9908882

I idle.

I'm porn guy.

I'm only below 50% because I play with friends that are shit.

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>>9908877
i'd say game addiction is the worst of all these internet-age meta-addictions.

truly there are worse games to waste your life on. all i have to show for valuable life hours sunk into this game is some gay hats. i also never idle on this account as i own plenty of alt accounts purely for generating in-game currency in which i can trade for other forms of virtual wealth.

there is nothing in my backpack that would truly excite the non-tf2 player. it's all hats and ridiculous items. during halloween event 2011 i spent three straight 16 hour days in a personally operated server to acquire a full set of haunted quality items, which turned out to be completely worthless. it's 3 hats per class, 9 classes, and rewarded from gifts that only dropped once every 15 minutes in which you had to compete to find against at least 6 other people. the time spent doing that was also the occasion when i hit the 3000 hours mark. it's the event that made me decide this game was a piece of shit waste of time and that i was too pants-on-head retarded into playing it.
http://www.tf2items.com/id/sanneh

on a side note i have a friend who wasted over 5000 hours of his life on final fantasy and considers this milestone his personal rock bottom in life.

>> No.9908936

>>9908604
>until I was 18
u wot m8?

>> No.9908940

It's a vicious cycle man. If I don't masturbate my testosterone increases to the point where I have a constant erection and eventually give in. The solution is to just get a chemical castration, etc. and remove your testosterone production.

>> No.9908946

>>9908932
That feel when you've spent over 30,000 hours on anime/manga and over 40,000 hours on VN. I feel satisfied with my life.

>> No.9908954

>>9908940
I think it's like chapstick. The only people I know that complain about and have chapped lips, used chapstick heaps when it wasn't a big deal. Then they started depending on it. And without using it daily, their lips get chapped.

I think it's the same with porn, you can cut down on it, but it takes time. You need to trick your testicles into thinking that you aren't copulating every day.

>> No.9908967

Speaking of Dota 2, I've had it in my steam library for months but never installed it. Should I? I've never played dota or league but I've seen a bit of footage.

>> No.9908970

>>9908932
>TF2
You should feel bad just for playing five minutes of that shit, nevermind 3332 goddamn hours, Christ.

>> No.9908971

>>9908932
>>9908946
That chair when 45,000+ hours invested in runescape

>> No.9908975

>>9908967
Delete steam now. Just fucking delete you massive cocksucking faggot.

>> No.9908978

>>9908975
What's wrong with steam?

>> No.9908980

>>9908971
I feel your shame man. I can feel it radiating off of you.

>> No.9908982

>>9908975
Y

>> No.9908983

>>9908900
Hey there Kikoni.

>> No.9908985

>>9908967
Ignorance is bliss, it's fun and all, but don't get into it if you're life is already busy.

There's a lot of mechanics and stuff. So if you like learning, then play it I guess.

>> No.9908987

>>9908978
Doesn't have a good selection of untranslated Japanese games. Also, they're a shitty third party reseller.

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>>9908971

>> No.9908999

>>9908971
It was worth it.... right?

>> No.9909006

>>9908999
Memories are something that you can't buy.

>> No.9909010

>>9908999
It was fun until they removed free trade/wilderness. Now it's just garbage.

Patiently waiting on 2006scape so I can spend the rest of my days exploring that vast world once more.

>> No.9909021

But I had really bad social anxiety before I started masturbating.

>> No.9909043

>>9909021
Are you saying it made you WANT to be around people?
Christians 1
Abethiests 0

>> No.9909047

>>9909043
0wnd

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>>9908570
nope. though i don't fap to 3dpd i still like vanilla and brown girls as i liked them 6 years ago,

tantra>no fap

>> No.9909093

>>9908983
Nah I ain't him, you wouldn't be able to know I ever come here based on my profile

>> No.9909094
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>>9908853
meditation
lucid dreaming

in your dreams it's very hard to be apathetic because everything is so fresh and beautiful.

start a dream diary.

>> No.9909104

>>9909094
To tell the truth, all this lucid dreaming stuff sounds like bullshit to me. Like that tulpa shit that was hip around here for a while.

>> No.9909110

>>9908978
Video games go on /v/. If you wanna hang out with the cool guys at /jp/ you gotta delete that shit.

>> No.9909112

>>9909104
That's the usual response from people who are frustrated over the fact that they can't do it.

>> No.9909121

>>9909112
That's like saying atheists don't believe in God because they haven't seen him yet.

>> No.9909123

>>9908570
>. Don't you feel that your fetishes are getting weirder and weirder. Or at least you're finding a lot of porn boring?
sometimes, sure, it makes it more interesting. i don't feel it being weird or anything though, that's just a normalfag's point of view.

>> No.9909127

>>9909104
So you don't believe you can give yourself hallucinations? Do you even drugs?

>> No.9909136

Fuck off and stop posting this shit.

TED talks have been getting worse every day.

lel le no reddit fap XD

FUCK
OFF

>> No.9909142

>>9908911
you'd still feel the lust and urge though. you'd just have to fap with a limp dick.

>> No.9909154

You do not want fap? I have great solution for you. Have penis and scrotum removed. No more fap. You are happy man* for rest of life.

*Please note that you will no longer be male and will instead have no gender. Thank you.

>> No.9909163

>>9909104
What? Are you seriously telling me you've never had an spontaneous lucid dream in your life?

>> No.9909185

Tried it for almost a month, didn't notice anything aside from random boners and wet dreams.

>> No.9909188

>>9908807

As a well seasoned masterbator, I have never experienced this. I just do it for the pleasure of cumming. In fact, it's more awkward when I *don't* do it because workplace boners are a bitch when you work in the pediatrics section of a hospital

I typically spend 5-10 minutes, and only longer if I actually want to prolong or intensify the feeling. Your mental weaknesses are your own, normalfag. Don't apply them to all of /jp/

>> No.9909196

>>9909104
dude, you won't see any real organization teaching you how to create a tulpa or researching the phenomenon, as for lucid dreaming:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monroe_Institute

actually you can even experience it today:
just look at the candle flame for 1-2 hours.
there's nothing magical in that. it just helps you to concentrate your mind.

>> No.9909198

>>9909188
How many children have you brutally ravaged with you're benis?

>> No.9909199 [DELETED] 

>>9909154

lmao this post was teh epic random ^_~ le asterik face *_*

>> No.9909208

>>9909185
>Tried it for almost a month, didn't notice anything aside from random boners and wet dreams.
This. I would just start getting wet dreams again, constantly sullying my underwear forcing me to do more laundry.

>> No.9909207

>>9909199

roflelmao bro!!! im glad your'e liked it!!!!! ^_^ le Fairy face :D

>> No.9909213

>>9909208
You wear underwear when you sleep? What are you, 12 years old or something?

>> No.9909211

>>9909199
>>9909207
Ironic shitposting at it's finest.

>> No.9909217

>>9909198

None. 3DPD

>> No.9909226

>>9909213

It's just a habit for some people. And anyway, if he had a wet dream *without* underwear, he'd just have to do *more* laundry. How dumb do you feel now, huh? HUH?!

>> No.9909235

>>9909226
If I have an ejaculation while wearing pants my cum will shoot through the pants and go flying for at least 10 metres. Maybe you just aren't a real man?

>> No.9909236

>>9909213
Not him but I nearly always wear underwear.
The reason is because it feels even nicer when my boner presses against it.

>> No.9909242

>>9909235
no, you're just a horse

>> No.9909247

>>9909235

It sounds bothersome to clean your semen off the ceiling every time you have a wet dream. I think I shall remain content with trying to be the little girl

>> No.9909259

People like us jack off a lot because we have high sex drives.

I've overheard casual talks of normals and they feel bad for jacking off twice in a day. TWICE in a day.

That's not normal, that's impotence.

>> No.9909264

>>9909217
The PD only kicks in around puberty.

>> No.9909279

>>9909242
I hear dolphins can ejaculate with the force of a shotgun blast.

>> No.9909281

>>9909259
I heard something like having a small dick means you're able to cum faster and more often. That also goes for teens compared to adults who don't cum as much as in their youth.

Let me ask you, how big are you down there and how old are you?

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Asexual reporting in. I never masturbated in my life, and only watched porn out of interest a few times as a 13-year-old.
Any kind of pornography has nothing to do with my social withdrawal, or other typical /jp/ behaviour.

>> No.9909315

>>9909287
>I never masturbated in my life
Do you have any major physical/psychological defects? That is not natural.

>> No.9909325

>>9909281
truth hurt, normie?

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>>9909315
I grew up with phimosis, and had it treated as I went through puberty.
It was difficult to masturbate before treatment, and afterwards I felt like it was unnecessary to even attempt it. Years passed since then, and I've never tried it.

>> No.9909340

>>9909287
But you're not asexual unless you've removed your genitals...

>> No.9909345

>>9909333

I was kind of the same, but I started masturbating around 19 after I moved out

>> No.9909346

>>9909333
>phimosis
I still have this shit, really need to get it removed sometimes. Not like I'm planning on having sex, but still.

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>>9909340
>Asexuality (sometimes referred to as nonsexuality), in its broadest sense, is the lack of sexual attraction to others or the lack of interest in sex. It may also be considered a lack of a sexual orientation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality
>>9909345
I'm alone in my room most of the time, nobody really bothers to go in my room, and if they do, they have the decency to knock. I don't feel embarrassed to do anything in my room, really.
>>9909346
It leaves your dick really unclean and prone to infections, do something about it, just for the sake of hygiene.

>> No.9909356

>>9909333

I guess that makes sense. I don't know what I have. I can retract the foreskin fully under normal conditions, but when I get aroused I can't pull it back or it'll hurt. I can masturbate without it pulled back though. I don't know what to do about it.

>> No.9909366

>>9909356
>I don't know what to do about it.
How about, go see a doctor?

>>9909351
>It leaves your dick really unclean and prone to infections, do something about it, just for the sake of hygiene.
Didn't have any problems in the past 21 years. Gonna do it when I'm finished with my major and have some time off or something, I heard it would be really painful for a few weeks afterwards.

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>>9909356
When I had it, I was hardly able to see the head of my penis even when erect, and it was too tight to pull back at all.
Hell, I even pissed over the floor or wall in the morning.

>> No.9909377

>>9909366

I did, actually. Parents wanted me to get cut as a teenager since they forgot about it. I cleaned it myself so I got to decide whether to get it cut or not, I was too scared to go through with it. It's not like I'm gonna have sex, but I don't know if it'll be a problem in the future. I can pull it back, just not when erect.

>>9909367

Yeah, that can get annoying. Stupid random trajectory.

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I was never circumcised.
>>9909366
I had a small incision going across my foreskin which hurt for about a week. It's not even as bad as it seems, if you're fine wearing loose clothes for a while.

>> No.9909388

Since /jp/ decided to talk about health concerns all of a sudden: I have hemorrhoids.

Had them for 2 and a half years. Hurt like FUCK when they first began. I dreaded every time I had to take a shit because I would always bleed like a motherfucker.

As time went by, my shit started turning very soft for some reason. I didn't eat anything different or did any kind of different activity during the day. It was just like if my body tried to easy its own pain by literally liquifying the shit.

To this day I still got them. I can still feel them around my anus, and they're only presently only an issue when I get the coughs because the pressure from coughing pushes them down and I smell like shit all day.

I'm not getting this shit checked, though. Way too fucking embarrassing. Its not like I'm going to die from them anyways.

>> No.9909391

>>9909388
can you sit down properly?

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>>9909388
That sounds terrible. I can't imagine putting up with something like this for such a long time.

>> No.9909399

>>9909388
I heard using preparation H helps deal with them. I'm not certain how much they help as i suffer from a rather long lasting hemorrhoid and the wipes i have haven't helped much for a week now.

>> No.9909402

>>9909366

You should do it as soon as possible. I was born with slight phimosis. I didn't have to have any operation or anything, just the head was slightly covered. When I got my foreskin pulled back at around 7 or so, there was a bunch of putrid dick cheese underneath. You should get that fixed.

>> No.9909404
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9909404

>>9909388

>> No.9909412

>>9909391

Yes. I really don't feel them as long as I'm not taking a shit or coughing.

The only reason I'm slightly concerned is because I hear this shit can sometimes lead to colon cancer, and I can't really explain why they began in the first place.

Otherwise I wouldn't mind them at all.

>> No.9909415

>>9909388
These are easily dealt with if you life in a country with free health care.

>> No.9909425

>>9909415
"Easily" differs from person to person, some people fear getting it checked out more than the disease itself.

>>9909412
I read somewhere you only get increase chance of colon cancer if it causes you to hold your shits in fear. You should always go as soon as you need to, as otherwise it will build up, harden, and be harder to pass.

>> No.9909428

i dunno if i had one or not. at the beginning i also had a problem retracting it when erect, but after a while i think i kind of loosened/stretched it (pull down, then get erect and stay like that for a while), so now it goes down without any trouble at all even when fully erect.

no operations or dick cutting was needed.

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9909434

>>9909428
You're lucky. In my case it was too tight to stretch at all without causing pain. Pulling it back would probably rip it apart.

>> No.9909453

>>9909434
there was pain at the beginning, but it disappeared after a while.

>> No.9909452

I dunno, I definitely feel like I'm a porn addict, usually spending >1-2 hours a day, but I don't see many of the symptoms he describes. I've been a constant masturbater since age 12 and never felt like a very awkward person. I don't really feel any attraction to real women, but I definitely have no problems getting it up to the porn I look at.

Maybe I should try quitting.

>> No.9909459

>>9909453
I have no regrets about the way it was dealt with in my case. It's really not as bad as it sounds, and to me getting a surgeon to do it feels safer than tugging on my own dick too hard.

>> No.9909465

>>9909452
>porn addict
I wouldn't say this is something bad though. I enjoy porn. I take my time browisng for it, which can range from an hour to 3 or 4, and then watch it for an hour or two as well.

I think over half of my HDD space consists of JAV, it's starting to become a real hassle to download more.

>> No.9909473

>>9909465
I agree, but I also wonder if I could have a sexually fulfilling normal relationship if I wasn't jerking off 1-2 times every day of the week. Certainly freeing up anywhere from 30 minutes to 3-4 hours of my day is something in itself. Everything he described (except the ED), from the changing of sexual tastes to the "porn as the most exciting thing" describes me perfectly.

>> No.9909493

The question I see here is at least, is this a question of masturbation or of porn? By giving up porn, does that imply that one also gives up masturbation, or at least greatly decreases the frequency of it?

Is porn what desensitizes people and causes neurological changes, or is it masturbation?

>> No.9909504

>>9909493
I got the impression he was mostly talking about the constant stimulation provided by high speed internet and easy pornography access that it gives. His issue didn't seem to be with masturbation itself.

>> No.9909505

All this foreskin talk makes me really glad I decided to mutilate myself when I was 12 years old.

>> No.9909514

>>9909043
No, masturbating didn't affect my social anxiety at all.

>> No.9909519

>>9909505
And I'm glad that I have a perfectly retractable foreskin without any pain.
When I was younger it ripped many times and bleed like a bitch while masturbating, but over the years it stretched and became the perfect size.

>> No.9909533

>>9909287
I'm asexual and I have to masturbate unless I want to wet my bed.

Stop lying. Now wanting to masturbate is a thing, but if your reproductive system is working well, you have to use it often or it will use itself at night.

>> No.9909534

>>9909519
>When I was younger it ripped many times and bleed like a bitch while masturbating
Ugh, I'm glad I didn't masturbate or pay attention to my penis before after I was mutilated.

>> No.9909543

The doctor who mutilated me only cut off half of my foreskin. I am superiour to all of you freaks.

>> No.9909545

>>9909388
This happens when you sit while shitting.

>> No.9909551

>>9909505
I never mutilated my dick and I don't have any of these issues.

Some people are really unlucky, but that doesn't justify circumcision.

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>>9909533
It only happened to me when I was younger. After the age of ~20 it stopped happening.
>>9909543
I wouldn't call it mutilation if it's necessary. Is amputating a defective limb mutilation?

>> No.9909555

>>9909549
I'm 25, I wet my bed every one or two months if I don't clean the pipes.

Goddamn, it's such a hassle. I wish I didn't have a fully working dick.

>> No.9909561

Anyone else pee in two directions for a few seconds and then pee in one line?
It's why I can't pee while standing up anymore

>> No.9909566

I had slight phimosis around 12 or so--whenever growth spurts really start kicking in. Managed to work through it and now it rolls back just fine erect. Just take it slowly and it'll eventually (over a few months) be stretched enough for there to not be pain.

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9909567

>>9909555
Feels good having no sex drive to waste your time on, or a fully functional reproductive system to make a big mess every few nights.
Since I'm a permavirgin anyway, there are literally no disadvantages to be seen here.
>>9909561
I used to piss sideways when I had phimosis.

>> No.9909568

>>9909561
I have phimosis, and I sometimes have this for a brief moment. When I start pissing it's coming out like from a sprinkler and all over the place, then I try pulling back my skin and it's allright again.

>> No.9909571

>>9909549
Sorry, When. It sounds much more dramatic that way. It was, after all, a horrifying and painful experience. I can still remember the sensation of string sliding through the inside of my penis.

>>9909551
Ok, maybe I'm being a bit unfair. But can you PISS IN A STRAIGHT LINE?

>> No.9909574

>>9909534
Well, if I didn't masturbate as much then it would probably still be too small and hard to retract. Ripping it and letting it heal made every fap easier and now it feels just awesome with all that stretchy foreskin.

>> No.9909585

I had that thing where your foreskin fuses together when I was like 6.
That was really painful, I had to pee in short spurts so that the foreskin would bulge with pee, and slowly drain out in pain. It went away after a couple of days and never again.

>> No.9909589

It's bullshit don't waste your time

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9909590

>>9909549
Yeah, I wasn't circumcised, and have always believed that it's done in a civilized, clean manner under anaesthetic, at least. What did they do to you, exactly?

>> No.9909591

>>9909561
happens when your semen dries up because you jacked off earlier
try spreading the opening of your penis so the cumshield will break

>> No.9909595

>>9909590
Why are you replying yourself?

>> No.9909597

>>9909591
best post on /jp/

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9909605

>>9909595
Because I'm an idiot that just started using 4chanx and its' features today.
I meant to quote >>9909571

>> No.9909737

>>9909590
>Yeah, I wasn't circumcised, and have always believed that it's done in a civilized, clean manner under anaesthetic, at least. What did they do to you, exactly?

It was done in a poor but developing asian country, in a proper hospital. Before the operation, a female nurse touched and examined my penis. It will hopefully be the only time in my life someone touches my penis. I was then layed on a chair-bed thingy and recieved anaesthetics through a hypodermic needle inserted into the base of my penis. It surprisingly didn't hurt too much. The doctor waited until the anaesthetics set in and then proceeded with the mutilation. I honestly had little idea of what he was doing, and I still know nothing of the process. I just remember that it didn't hurt, although I felt odd stuff happening to my penis. My father and the doctor nagged me saying it was OK to look, so I did take a little peak. All I remember seeing was a bloody mess and the doctor sewing it up. When the operation was completed, the effects of the anaesthetics started to fade and pain setting in. I cried like a little bitch and had to be rolled on a wheelchair out of the hospital.

>> No.9909743

>>9909737
The next few days I spent all day in bed playing video games and getting everything served to me. I remember having some kind of form made of that hard white bandage stuff (can't remember what it's called) around my whole penis, with only a little hole for my peehole. It had a cover over the peehole which I would lift up everytime I needed to pee. It would nearly always get stuck on my peehole and had to be teared off with the help of some kind of liquid.

The next weeks would be me gradually removing parts of this form. In the end I would face several pieces of it utterly stuck to my penis, which I then had to man up and gradually tear off every single one. I was really happy after I had managed to tear off the last one. It was finally over.

However, I am pretty lucky. I remember seeing in the news not too long after, that the less fortunate kids got their mutilation done by an old man with a rusty scissor. And the only form of anaesthetics would be a leaf to bite on.

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9909755

>>9909737
>>9909743
I cringed so hard. Also, I've pretty much ran out of Cirno pictures.

>> No.9909761

>>9909755
Nobody cares about your avatars faggot

>> No.9909774

>>9909761
I prefer to avatarfag when talking about something that covers more than a few posts purely for the sake of convenience. It's still better than using a tripcode.

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9909863

If I were to follow his advice and stop watching porn, would that include masturbating as well?

>> No.9909879

>>9909863
Yes.

>> No.9909880

does he mean masturbation or just internet porn?

>> No.9909884

>>9909774
But avatar fagging is against the RULES.

>> No.9909888

>>9909880
maybe

>> No.9909890

>social anxiety and depression
Fuck off, falseNEETs.

>> No.9909910

>>9909880

Internet porn. He makes a clear distinction from real interactive sex from the psychologically rewarding system that triggers when you use said means.

>> No.9909924

Who is this nerd to tell me porn is bad for me? in fact, it's good. When I date a hot NEET girl, it will be my guide to sex. I accumulated a lot of knowledge from porn and I will use it to satisfy my NEET girlfriend.

The liberal weenie in the video will be wrong and I will be right.

>> No.9909936

While it would be interesting to try his suggestion I doubt it would be doable since it would require me to stop going to 4chan and most of my regular websites since they all contain some sort of pornographic material.

I'm a collector by nature which makes this even harder.

>> No.9909983

>>9909884
fuck the police

>> No.9910021

>>9908932
Hello, fuuka

>> No.9910122
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9910122

entire fucking psedoscience bullshit ivory tower anti-masturbation faggots need to cite some real shit instead of smelling farts and believing bullshit. Some italian shill that has connections to anti-masturbation groups say its true hes a DR!


Face it, this message gets out because its about control. Christianity used it to control the community and get people to commit to the norm and work hard for women.

Feminism destroyed this, getting laid is rare now for 98% of the male population, there is no incentive to work hard to attract a mate because they will just leave you when you run out of novelty for some other dick they aren't bored of that has more money, looks, time or testosterone.

They are afraid that men are seeking alternatives (porn) and opting for lower paying jobs. Women are the primary consumers in house holds and if they aren't attached to a fucking man they arent buying mindrot magazines, make up and watching reality TV marketing.

They want the following:

Men that work hard for a single CHANCE at sexual encounter, don't ask questions and work overly hard to attract a mate, women that are free to drop a man and take his money and children with her and keep them in check.

They are losing their slaves, they fucking hate the man that works part time,saves his money, buys a comuputer to pirate games and movies, owns a microhouse, takes transit, does not consume past his means and opts out of the rat race he knows hes never going to get laid in.

tl;dr back to work slaves.

citation: me, faggots.

>> No.9910132

My taste in porn have not changed one bit and I still have bocturnal emissions and all that even after fapping. I have an internet addiction I suppose, but that might be because I have had very little to do at home since I was a child.

>> No.9910179

>>9910122
I think I know why you're not getting laid, and it has nothing to do with feminism.

I just hope for your sake that this is copypasta.

>> No.9910194

>>9908932
I was in one game where people were talking about making real money with TF2. I can understand making money off of it, but I couldn't understand paying such large amounts over shit like that. I only care enough to trade items for strange weapons, but paying large amounts of real money for it? It just seems like too much.

>> No.9910199

>>9910179
> I think I know why you're not getting laid
lel i rofl fucking hard XDD

big upboat to you my bro, he's a nerd :P

>> No.9910207

>>9910122
i agreed with you before the "face it" part

>> No.9910202

>>9910179
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_views_on_pornography

>> No.9910212

>>9910202
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_Against_Pornography

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_Against_Violence_in_Pornography_and_Media

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_Fighting_Pornography

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Craft

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Simonton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa_Farley

>> No.9910268

>>9910122

>> No.9910347

>>9909936
I've been doing nofap and noporn for a couple months now (with a few resets) as a test of self-control and in order to free up time, and I don't really think you need to give up 4chan and other "non-pornographic" sites in order to do it.
You just need to learn to ignore it - if you know it's porn then don't open the image up or ignore the thread (if the whole thread is going to be pornographic) and don't dwell on it if you do fuck up, just move on and focus on something else.
I never really collected pornography in the first place (I would just read H-manga online or go to /d/ or one of the boorus), but if that's a problem for you it might just be wise to get rid of the entire collection and collect other material in it's place. In saying that, if you decide to stop fapping and looking at porn the cessation of pornography collecting will probably just come along as a byproduct anyway.

>> No.9910363

>>9910347
Did you see any real results doing the whole thing?

>> No.9910394

>>9910347
Mmm, you do have a point. I'll give it a try starting monday. I'm also interested in hearing about what >>9910363 asked.

Deleting my collection is out of the question, though. It's years of work and has a lot of rare content.

>> No.9910445

>>9908874
>autism
I started playing LoL and Minecraft back in their respective betas, I can count the number of days I haven't played either on my fingers. Also for 5 years straight I played Warcraft 3 every single day without fail. You make me feel like I'm some kind of supernova of autism.

>> No.9910466

holy shit no wonder I can't cum

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>>9908799
try heroin, you'll love it

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>>9910363
Well, the longest streak I've had so far is about 22 days (+another ~21 day streak) and I'm at about 11 days right now, so it isn't as if I've gone 60+ days without, although everything I have done so far does make a difference.

With doing nofap I have been using exercise as an outlet in order to deal with any sexual frustration (currently cycling 6 days a week and lifting 3 days a week, up from just lifting 3 days a week when I first started experimenting with nofap) as it tends to give the same satisfied content feeling that can result from masturbation, which is beneficial by itself although not a direct result from abstaining. In saying that though, most people who attempt nofap do end up making efforts with exercise and diet to distract themselves and due to the feeling that exercise produces - while it isn't a direct consequence, it does go hand in hand with nofap.

>> No.9910519

tl;dw!

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>>9910512
I've also noticed that I've become more motivated, open and social (although I have been a NEET the entire time and still barely socialize) in that I don't care as much about what others think and feel - I feel much more comfortable talking and making eye contact with strangers and random visitors, and don't give as much of a fuck about embarrassing myself. There's also the natural horniness - with both my longer streaks (and current streak) it seems to cycle and you'll typically go through periods of 2-3 days where you have no sexual energy at all and where you'll be extremely aroused. The indifference periods tend to be a fair bit longer (getting up to 4-5 days) than the aroused periods, and at about 20 days with both of the long streaks I had this rough patch where I was extremely aroused and emotional/agitated. The cycling results with most people, but length generally differs.

So of course there's no direct results (apart from the apparent cycling of sexual arousal and extra free time), however during the period I have become fitter, more motivated and more social, which in turn seemed to have increased general happiness. At the end of the day it's largely subjective, and will pretty much be whatever you make out of it.

>> No.9910529

>>9910520
I don't give a rats ass about embarrassing myself either, but I masturbate almost every day.

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9910540

>>9910512
>>9910520
When I try to go without masturbating about 10-15 days in I get terribly grumpy.

20 days in I started punching and throwing objects and almost everything set me off.

>> No.9910550

I look at lewd things but I don't masturbate or cum. I don't remember when I last came. It might have been 15 days?

>> No.9910542

>>9908562
>will see it for what it is: a simple nice feeling
But that's ignoring the biochemistry of the body.
Climax is followed by the release of a huge mix of various hormones and compounds. These directly affects your body physically, and your mind mentally.

I am not saying that masturbation is bad, but to handwave it as "just a nice feeling" or whatever is just being ignorant.

>> No.9910543

>>9910512
>>9910520
I feel pretty much the same way.

>> No.9910554

>>9910550
This site occupies you so much you don't have time to masturbate.

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>>9910540
I know what you mean, but I'm going to keep on doing this as I want to see if there's any further changes when I eventually do get up to about ~100 days and as I seem to feel happier in general.
>>9910529
Try doing it as a test of self-control and to see if it does bring about any positive changes - it's easy to be complacent and unwilling to change your current lifestyle, but trying something new out might very well make you happier and you aren't going to know whether that is so unless you make the initial effort. You have all the time in the world to masturbate everyday, what difference is 20-30 days of abstaining going to make.

>> No.9910630

How the fuck would I keep up to date with no backlog when there are 60 pages of pixiv r-18 and 5~ of R-18G?

GOTTA FAP EM ALL

I edge for 6 hour sessions every 48 hours.

>> No.9910687

>>9910212

hahaha. look at this faggot using wikipedia.

>> No.9910831

I watched that TED talk last year I think, and it was just as baseless and nonsense now as it was back then.

Essentially, his assumption is that the chemicals excreted after sex changes your brain chemistry. To this end, he's right--absolutely right. A change in chemicals in the brain changes brain chemistry. After masturbating, a male may become lethargic. They may become tired, even, and this is his statement. Unfortunately, this effect of masturbation lasts only maybe an hour after the orgasm, and serves as a function of the refractory period, wherein the male is biologically encouraged to not engage in further sexual acts so as to not exhaust themselves.

In other-words, he's exaggerating the time of the refractory period to absurd lengths to try to conveniently explain the psychological problems of today's generation of males. Unfortunately, this explanation is false.

He has other assumptions, such as the psychological effect of engaging in fetishes or the effect of varied sexual stimulation. These are all 100% baseless, however.

>>9908544
Video games are not addictive. You can become dependent on them, but that's a psychological dependence and has nothing to do with your biology whatsoever. It's not something that you "can't stop", it's something that you "don't stop."

Addictions require the involvement of addictive substances, which establishes physiological dependence insofar that your body's chemistry is altered to a state which relies on this substance.
Psychological dependencies are purely psychological. What chemicals are at play are naturally excreted as a result of your psychology, and are not introduced through a foreign source.

Please don't talk about things that you know nothing about--this is how misinformation is spread.

>> No.9910841

>TEDx
>x

>> No.9910853

>>9910831
Especially since males have been fapping since the dawn of the palm
And I actually theorise that the evolution of the 'tool gripping hand' was actually the byproduct of the penis gripping hand.

>> No.9910866
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9910866

I masturbate for the afterglow, it's almost a religious act for me, after fapping i listen to DEEP music and meditate, giving it up would be like telling a hardcore christian to stop going to church, i'd rather give up all chances of redemption than stop doing this.
But still, i guess i'll try not doing it for some time, just to prove this old fuck wrong.

>> No.9910869

>>9910831

I dunno anon. I quit porn a while back and I feel much better now and am less depressed.

>> No.9910884

>>9910869
Purely psychological.

It's common for males to feel guilty after masturbating. Perhaps this guilt affected you in a negative way, making you depressed. Maybe the guilt made you feel anxious, or inferior. It's very common.

The solution isn't stopping so much as it is coming to terms with your sexuality. You can stop, sure, but that doesn't address the actual problem.

>> No.9910886

>>9910884
Also
>males
This applies to both sexes, actually.

>> No.9910889

>>9910884

What problem? I still fap all the time. Just not to porn

>> No.9910895

>>9910687
Wikipedia is usually accurate, what are you, a disgruntled junior high teacher?

>> No.9910899

>>9910889
That eliminates the possibility of it being biological, then.

I assume that: You feel guilty for fapping to porn. You feel depressed as a result to this guilt.

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9910897

>>9908533
I want more images of Reimu's armpits.

>> No.9910903

>>9910895
>wikipedia is usually accurate
No. Just no.

>> No.9910909

>>9910899

That could be. I quit porn just around the time ( not the exact, 2-3 weeks before) I starting exercising and eating better so it's impossible to say its a direct result of quitting.

>> No.9910923

It depends on the porn. If I fap to doujin of anime/manga I have read I feel guilty. But if I fap to rustle I have no guilt.

>> No.9910942

>>9910899
Physiological, rather, as in there is no change in brain chemistry as a result of masturbation which specifically makes you depressed.

>>9910903
I know quite a few of college professors whom I've had discussions with about this. The general consensus seems to be that wikipedia is fine to use, but an article is only as good as its sources, so a person should either be sure to check those, or just read from those directly.

Just because there was a study on something doesn't automatically mean that the study is valid, either. For people who aren't participating within the scientific community, it can be difficult to know which sources to trust, but basically a lot of studies are slated toward getting certain, biased results. This is because funding is often received with the condition that certain results are expected, and not getting those results would mean the revocation of funding. This is why a person should always use peer reviewed studies as references, and even then they should make sure to read up on how the studies were handled to ensure that they are proving what they think they are.

>> No.9910983

Lately I've been needing to pee all over myself in order to cum. It's really annoying.

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9910989

>>9910983

>> No.9911026

>>9910989
It's driving me crazy. All I can think about is peeing on girls or being peed on. It's what half of my posts on /jp/ have been about for a month now. I just can't stop thinking about pee.

>> No.9911059

>>9911026
Did you pick up this fetish recently?

>> No.9911108

>>9911059
I've had a urine fetish for eight years, but I didn't get obsessed with it until recently, when I peed on myself while masturbating for the first time. It probably has something to do with the fact that I had bed-wetting issues until I was about 12 or something.

>> No.9911133

>>9911108
Fuck anon, now I want to try it.

>> No.9911157

>>9911133
Just makes sure to have a lot of cleaning products and paper towel ready if you intend to do it outside of the bathroom. In my opinion, it's no fun if you do it while you're in the shower.

>> No.9911165

>>9911157
>if you intend to do it outside of the bathroom
Where the fuck else would you do it?

>> No.9911206

>>9911165
It's really doesn't feel very spontaneous or dirty if you do it in the bathroom. Lay out multiple paper towels all across your computer chair, and while masturbating to whatever you usually masturbate to, if you feel like it, make a bowl with your masturbating hand and pee into, then use the urine as lubricant. If you get more horny, try peeing on your belly. After you cum, wipe yourself down with paper towel without getting up. Then dispose of the paper towels you were sitting on, and grab some mr. clean and spray your chair with it. Let it soak in, and spary some febreeze around too. Opening a window and turning on a fan also helps. Then take a thorough shower with hot water and soap. If the mr. clean soaked into the chair, place a towel on top and sit on it until it's dry.

>> No.9911406

>>9909459
>>9909428
>>9909434

This is why it's unfortunate that men are so embarrassed about their dicks in the west. Fathers should really teach their sons about these issues

It sounds to me like you guys have completely natural dicks, but this is uncut male virginity for you. In order to loosen your foreskin, you should slowly and gently stretch it over time. Not much, not even that close to the point where you might feel discomfort or pain. Just lube up and slowly pull the foreskin back until it starts to become uncomfortable. Then, do that a couple more times, and stop. Do it again the next day. Repeat this for a week or two and you should be able to retract your foreskin completely, give or take more time as all dicks are a little different

>> No.9911615

the shit you people talk about

>> No.9911749

>>9911615
This is nothing compared to /a/.

>> No.9911761

>>9911749
The farthest /a/ goes is sleeping/masturbating with a daki.
I bet those plebes don't even eat their own semen.

>> No.9911774

>>9911761
And someone dares to claim that /jp/ has no disussion.

>> No.9911848

>>9911761
You'd be surprised.

http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/59162699/#59162699

One of our proudest moments.

>> No.9911870

>>9911848
All that "lolling pretty hard", "mfw", "tfw".
I bet the fags didn't do it and just typed that they came FOR THE LULZ XD.

Disgusting

>> No.9911897

>>9908533
I think maybe it's a matter of correlation: if you're watching porn all the time and masturbating all of the time, it's also fairly likely that you're spending most of your time indoors on the computer and not socializing or meeting anyone. So while it may seem logical to attribute a lack of dominance in other areas of life to porn and masturbation habits, they may be correlated elsewhere and likely do not have a causative relationship.

Also, this TED talk (and I should note that just about anyone can give a TED talk, so long as they aren't blatantly political or selling anything) reeks of soft science. He seems to make his correlations strongly based on anecdotal evidence, user testimony from his website and from other anti-porn websites, and from the behavior of rats. Anyone can look at rats, make correlations, and call it evo-psych, but until someone credible does research and publishes papers, I'm going to continue masturbating and enjoying porn.

I've been skeptical and remain skeptical ever since I saw this posted to 4chan a few months ago.

OP, if you really feel like you need to become social IRL, you should begin by significantly cutting down the amount of time you spend on the computer. I honestly don't think stopping masturbating will help.

>> No.9911916

>>9911897
I have to agree.
To me, this is just hairy palms and blindness for the 21st century.
People have been fapping for thousands of years, and suddenly now it's a problem

>> No.9911941

>>9911916
People never had access to a virtually infinite catalog of porn

>> No.9911945

>>9911897
This.
It seems more like correlation than causation.
>since i've stopped masturbating, i've felt like a modern day leonardo da vinci, i've been learning french, felt more attractive within girls etc.

>> No.9911993

>>9908971
Jesus.
I have only around 300 days total played time on my WoW account, and that's around 7200 hours.

>> No.9911998

>>9911993
>only
>7200 hours

>> No.9912003

>>9911870
I don't see any "loling" anywhere.

/a/'s pretty gay, I'd be surprised if people were doing it for a joke.

http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/72217275/ for example.

>> No.9912007

>>9912003
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/59162699/#q59163736

>> No.9912010

This smelled like bullshit the moment I fired up the video. There are no links to any experiments and I haven't heard him display any hard evidence. This is a clear case of a correlation being sensationalized. Most of those negative effects could be attributed to something else and positive benefits are all anecdotal.

From personal experience, my fetishes cycle; fetish progression is the result of personal discovery. I have always preferred 2D to 3D ever since I discovered it over a decade ago. This isn't some "gateway drug" bullshit.

>> No.9912011

>>9911897
I do think that cutting down on masturbation is one way to exercise some kind of control over yourself, instead of just mindlessly browsing the internet and jerking off to whatever you see there. It's about developing willpower and an attention span, more than actual masturbation. But of course nobody on /jp/ has much of that.

>> No.9912015

>>9912011
I do.

>> No.9912018

>>9912010
Personal discovery? I think of it more as a skill tree.

It seems to me like fetishes are something you kind of start out with but can link to other things from that starting point. It's fun getting into something new, sure, but if you don't want to develop those interests, just limit your exposure to your main ones so you don't get bored of them, simple as that.

But of course that was just anecdotal.

>> No.9912019

>>9912011
>I do think that cutting down on masturbation is one way to exercise some kind of control over yourself
I doubt that's a serious issue for people. Yeah it's fun to binge out on masturbation, but few do it on a regular basis once they're past puberty. Everyone knows it feels better to save it up a bit.

>> No.9912026
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>>9912019
I do it once at day, twice if I have time, several times if I'm bored or procrastinating, and I have no reaction images for ambivalence mixed with mild regret.

>> No.9912036

>>9912018
>I think of it more as a skill tree.
That's a better way of putting it. The whole deal though, is that fetishes are pretty rooted in some fundamental attractions, like a skill tree dependent upon class. Cutting porn does nothing to fix fetishes and "weird" fetishes are just the result of a natural progression or "level up".

>>9912026
I generally do it once a day too; it's hard to break since it's so ritualized for me.

Every now and then, though, take a break and then really get into it a few days later. Get into a REALLY lewd mood and it's amazing.

>> No.9912041 [DELETED] 

There's nothing worse than TED Talks. They are basically like 'Chicken Soup for the Person with a Stick Up their Ass's Soul Who want to Watch Some1 Trying 2 Sound Deep and Feeling Like they Are Smart, Cultured, and have a Broad World View.' They are basically just for people who are stuck with the 'I take AP/Honors Classes and I am s0o0oo0 smart' worldview. Anyways, I feel bad for this woman who gave a TED TALK on SWAG. She was trying to be innovative, quirky, and 'relevant to today's tweens.' Except she just sounded dumb, but even if she did do a good job, it would have been dumb because it was just a TED Talk.

>> No.9912039

>>9911941
No, they just had fertile imaginations

>> No.9912044

There's nothing worse than TED Talks. They are basically like 'Chicken Soup for the Person with a Stick Up their Ass's Soul Who want to Watch Some1 Trying 2 Sound Deep and Feeling Like they Are Smart, Cultured, and have a Broad World View.' They are basically just for people who are stuck with the 'I take AP/Honors Classes and I am s0o0oo0 smart' worldview.

>> No.9912047

>>9912036
Yeah, that sounds about right. Speaking from experience, fat fetishism seems to branch out into either more "gluttony/libertine/poor hygiene" directions, or generic "inflation/expansion/largeness" directions. But if one's uncomfortable with going in these directions, it seems like it'd be easy to abstain for a while and find the original images and such to be stimulating once again. I think of it as something like a numbness to persistent stimuli.

As for your second comment, it is indeed difficult to break, bordering on addiction perhaps. I'm not really into lewdness/dirtiness, or at least I don't want to be (maybe I should stop hanging around /jp/ then), because it seems like that's how you'd end up like Mr. Piss On Self up there.

>> No.9912051

>>9912047
>it is indeed difficult to break, bordering on addiction perhaps
You don't need to break it. As far as I'm aware, regular masturbation is good for you. It improves concentration. Now if you're in the presence of others and then need to rush off to the bathroom to beat off, then you need to be worried.

>I'm not really into lewdness/dirtiness
That's cool, just make it count. Sometimes I save up for a week or two and then it's off the god damn races. Buckets.

>> No.9912056

So...is it safe to assume that there's no such things as "sexuality" and just a general preference for this kind of porn and/or body type in porn?

>> No.9912059

for those who have a mild case of phimosis, I have found that my onaholes were the cure for it. For 22 years I never knew that your dick was supposed to peel out completely, but after sticking my dick inside an onahole about 20 times, I was able to peel it all the way back when erect,

>> No.9912063

I don't have a pornographic addiction.

I rarely ever engage in anything sexual yet I have an internet addiction.

This guy's citing things that he doesn't understand and jumping to conclucsions because of this.

It's sad really.

>> No.9912065

>>9912063
Also, porn's usually boring so it's not the "most exciting thing".

>> No.9912067

>>9912039
Not comparable

>> No.9912248

>>9908971

That is over five full years of 24 hour days.
That is over fifteen years work if it were a full time job.
Have you thought about a final solution?

>> No.9912282

>>9909213
I sleep in my day clothes.

>> No.9912311

>>9910866
You don't have the willpower to not fap anyway.

I've tried, it's not possible.

And all you fuckers that try will just give up in a week.

>> No.9912313

>>9910897
Yeah this image is pretty cute too. Dat tongue.

>> No.9912455

>>9908882
There's a /jp/ chatroom?

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>>9912311
It's been what? 6 and a half-hours since then? I'm still going!

>> No.9912715

>>9912463
Fuck, i failed, brb, meditating.

>> No.9912772

>>9912455
Yeah we're one of the few boards that have one.

>>9912715
Give me strength, I'm just reading normal manga, but small ecchi things are getting me so bothered.

Please let me last at least until tomorrow.

>> No.9912806

>>9912772
>small ecchi things are getting me so bothered.
What the fuck man? Unless I have a erection I can read manga with full on nudity and it doesn't bother me. Really man, just go fap to rustle or some shit.

>> No.9912869

>>9908533
Fuck, I click my mouse and often have multiple tabs.

I might be a porn addict.

>> No.9912881

>>9912869
You say that as if you aren't

>> No.9912930

>>9912881
Okay, you got me.

>> No.9912937

>regret
>shame
do people really feel that shit when they're done fapping? i usually just feel satisfaction, and sometimes even fulfillment after i'm done.

that only goes to fapping to my characters, when it's other random ones the satisfaction is much lower.

sometimes it's needed to break the cycle though, and keep it feeling fresh. don't want to get too used to my stuff and get bored of it.

>> No.9912940

>>9912937

>satisfaction

Get a load of this guy.

>> No.9912955

>>9908932
Fuck you, make it 3333 at least, will you ?

>> No.9912965

>>9912806
You've already ruined your libido by over masturbation, you will never feel the same amount of pleasure.

>> No.9912969

>>9912937
I wish I was a good artist and I could fap to my own shit.

I really like Dan Kim's art, I wish I was him, so I could draw my own fap material. Then make cool threads on /jp/.

>> No.9913132

>>9912940
jealous?

>> No.9913140

>>9911993
>WoW
My two mains had over 300 days each, and I had at least 5 alts with over 100 days played.

Before WoW I had a social life, trained hockey 5 times per week and had a dream of being a hockey pro. Now I have 0 friends and spend my days hiding in my room fapping to lolis.
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>> No.9913157

I'm sorry /jp/. I tried.

But I couldn't stop myself. I'll try again tomorrow.

>> No.9913181

>>9913140
I knew several social popular people in middle school whom were wow addicts. I wonder if their lives got destroyed in a similar manner as you and are now shut-ins masturbating to drawings of children. Although, I have a hard time envisioning them in such a condition.

>> No.9913204

>>9912059
Wow that's amazing. I've had a mild case of phimosis but I took care of it by peeling it back because a friend of mine told me how awesome it is to "masturbate like a jew".

>> No.9913234
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9913234

Stopped watching when they began to adverse reddit. It's not the site, it's just that it looks bad and unprofessional to give a conference with memes and such.

>> No.9913314

Okay, so quit porn. But I can still masturbate, right?

>> No.9913382

>>9913314
Probably. I mean, if you use your imagination to do it it's still something of a creative act. And it requires no internet exposure.

>> No.9913391

I don't know ever since I've switched from disgusting north american porn to japanese porn I feel a lot happier. Then again I started smoking pot at around the same time so who knows if it's related. Worth a try if you're miserable I say.

>> No.9913394

>>9910542
Claiming a simple cause and effect from the biochemistry is also over simplifying things. There is variability between people in how much is released, how effective it is, and due to a huge amount of other input variables the end result in personality. At least for me, the only real effect other than feeling nice is making me sleepy (I actually fap to help me sleep more often than I do for sexual satisfaction) and hungry. I feel in control of the higher level personality issues that are based on more than just the chemicals released at that one time point.

>> No.9913431

Ever since I started huffing glue I feel a lot better. Just splurge the stuff inside a plastic bag and inhale. It make you feel like you're flying.

>> No.9913437

I stopped fapping for a few weeks once and it made images of females a lot more cuter or sexier. Things like cleavage, legs and panties caught my eye more and were a lot nicer to look at, 3D girls included. I should try it again sometime.

>> No.9913439

>>9913431
Ew, are you a hobo

>> No.9913445

>>9913234
Oh just googling the vid link, it's got something about Glasgow in the description. So you know it's going to be bullshitty.

Whee, looks like this is what happens when semi-adults try to give serious-business credential to internet kiddy shit.

Quit jerkin' it, you'll go blind. No it isn't the contaminated 3rd-world liquor, it's masturbation. Seriously, we can quote statistics and science stuff at you in support of our idea.

>> No.9913591

I'm going to try it but I doubt that will help with my ADHD-PI and general anxiety/lack of motivation as I've had those problems since I was in the single digits of age.

>> No.9913592

Also the thing I spend the majority of my time doing is browsing 4chan, so if anything is an addiction problem that's it.

>> No.9913926

>>9908570

if anything, my fetishes have been more modest. In elementary school/early high school, I started getting into dick girls and visited /d/ more. I was into guro and bestiality.

Now, my weirdest fetish is just underarms and that space between the girls' crotch and between the thighs.

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>>9913926
>that space between the girl's crotch and between the thighs

>> No.9913985

>>9913926
>In elementary school/early high school
How old are you?

>> No.9914006

>>9913985

22

>> No.9914141

>>9914006
You Australian or something?

>> No.9914151

>>9914141

No.

>> No.9914329

>>9908533
That dude has a huge moral agenda. He tries to argue these symptoms are related to porn usage, but his evidence are tangential and general at best. The directly relevant evidence he presents are all anecdotal.

The truth is the rewiring process he references exist in all sorts of situations. It's even applicable for stressful work environments and childhood abuse.

The principle is very simple. Excessive sustained stimulation in the long term makes you numb to everything. Take a break from stimulation so you can recover.

But now people who listen to him will have confirmation bias that somehow porn is the source of the manhood crippling evil.

>> No.9914394

>>9914329
Yeah, I feel the same way. Stopping porn isn't going to fix me. Things aren't that simple.

>> No.9914621

>>9914394
Stopping porn isn't some magic bullet like that guy implies.

But understanding how various stimuli affects your mental health, then controlling and scheduling those stimuli is a valid strategy to help manage symptoms.

>> No.9914648

Giving into your id is one of the worst things you can do, and something modern society does too much to encourage. I'm fairly liberal, but all this "express yourself!" and "if it feels good, do it!" bullshit is unscientific and ultimately destructive.

You know that old thing about punching a pillow when you're angry? Psychologists don't recommend doing that any more. Turns out it just makes you more angry. Sometimes controlling your emotions and urges is a lot more important than letting them run free, even if you're a strong, independent NEET who don't need no moral judgement.

>> No.9914673

>>9914648
control and freedom are both important as part of the overall strategy of moderation

>> No.9914683

>>9913926
Yeah I used to be more into bestiality and dick girls too. Now I'm just into hime-cuts and kuuderes.

>> No.9914699

I didn't masturbate until I was 21. I was as much of a loser before as I am now. Stopping isn't some panacea that'll solve all of your problems or, indeed, any of them (and it's likely that stopping will cause anxiety, at least in the short term).

Saying it's somehow going to improve your life is confusing cause and effect. You aren't a reject because you masturbate frequently. You masturbate frequently because you're a reject. It's a symptom rather than the root of a disorder.

>> No.9914730

>>9914699
>I didn't masturbate until I was 21.
What the HELL dude

>> No.9914824

armpits is boring feet are better

>> No.9914928

>>9914699
Why did you wait so long? Are you from a super religious family or something?

>> No.9915020

>>9914730
>>9914928
>Why did you wait so long? Are you from a super religious family or something?
No, it was apathy mixed with laziness. I'd known about masturbation since I was thirteen or so, but I didn't bother with it because I knew it would be messy and I didn't care about the pleasure as much as I did the mess afterwards. My mom was also sort of strange, and I thought she'd figure it out if I did and try to embarrass me in front of other people or something.

>> No.9915141

Thanks to the internet I began to develop a taste for penises on girly boys.

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>>9915141
I think if the internet didn't exist i'd be something of a hardcore christian heterosexual or something equally 'boorish.

>> No.9915733

>>9915729
>something
some kind

>> No.9916157

None of you even understand his point.
Close all those fucking tabs and settle on thing to masturbate to. Masturbate once every 2 days - 2 weeks to avoid snowballing out again, and stick to that one porn per session. Also even if your not masturbating opening porn tabs off of other porn tabs is still bad for you. Just try and take it easy, bookmark that booru tag and close the tab before you end up with a hundred.

>> No.9916164

>>9916157
*one thing

It's hard but I managed to sum up enough strength to learn glorious nippon by taking it easy this way before some quack put a presentation together.

>> No.9916761

>>9916157
>Just try and take it easy

heh.

>> No.9916909

>>9914683
are you me?

>> No.9917453

>>9916909
Yes

>> No.9919993

>>9914683
I fucking love kuudere but hime-cuts are kind of meh

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