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In your opinion, why wasn't Umineko as good as Higurashi? Was the ending really so bad that it ruined the rest, or was it a weaker story from the beginning?

>> No.9886387

I prefer Umineko

>> No.9886398

I really liked Umineko when I watched it, but it didn't leave much of an impact on me. I played the first episode of the VN and didn't give much of a fug to continue.

>> No.9886400
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>>9886387

No you don't.

>> No.9886401

>>9886398

Meant Higurashi, not Umineko.

>> No.9886404

Umineko had a more interesting story and mystery, but Higurashi had better characters and a great ending.

>> No.9886411

Umineko was worse because when the game came out, I had already become an elitist and was part of an online community that hated anything remotely popular. So I sat in threads discussing the plot to death convincing myself I hated it. By the time it was over, I don't even really remember what happened in episode 8 but I must have not liked it because that's what I tell myself.

When Higurashi was airing I was much more naive, and frankly, didn't even know it was a VN before I was through season 1, so I allowed myself to enjoy it.

>> No.9886419

>>9886411
Can't tell if first part is serious or not. Why would you continue being like that if you're self-aware?

>> No.9886422

Umineko was completely incoherent plot-wise. At least we got Erika out of it.

>> No.9886430

>>9886422

Umineko was great plot-wise AND we got Natsuhi out of it

>> No.9886434

>>9886419
It's a terrible fate. Join us.

>> No.9886457

>>9886411
You can't possibly be this fucking stupid.

>> No.9886493

The whole trying to deny magic thing while it clearly is going on around you thing is... strange.

Yes they made it a game of sorts, but the precident lacks compared to higurashi

>> No.9887228

I really love them both, but I found higurahi's characters and "answers" the the mystery more fun, while I found umineko's story as a whole more fun.

>> No.9887234

I felt Umineko was better

>> No.9887327
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I liked Umineko better, but I found that me liking it very much hinged on a solution, some twist, or even an obvious answer would be adequate.

But the author tried to pull some "Knowing the answer isn't all that matters" message. And he also insisted that there was a solution, some logic going on behind the scenes that, when you discover it, ensures everything makes sense. However, if you don't find it out for youself, you're a pleb, a sheep, a "goat". In this way he ensures that nobody will ever find the definite answer while he pre-emptively insults everyone who tries to get the definite answer from the only guy who knows it.

Looking back, much of the games are filled with 'clues' that are nothing but dead weight in the non-mystery fiction he turned the series into. In this way, he's retroactively ruined much of the series for me. I still like a lot of the characters, but the plot is shit.

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9887365

Umineko was my favorite. For all of its faults ep6-8, the chemistry between Battler and Beatrice was what really kept me coming back for more.

>> No.9887601

>>9886404
>Higurashi had better characters and a great ending.
yeah, POWER OF FRIENDSHIP WILL CONQUER EVERYTHING!

>> No.9887609

>>9886430
I got Zepar out of it.

>> No.9887610

>>9887601

More like, if you roll a one million sided die enough times, eventually one million will come up.

Friendship was only the vessel for a miracle.

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>>9887327

All the answers were given to you in EP7.

The Epitaph, the murders, the culprit, all of it is made clear.

The gold is beneath/behind the chapel. The murderers are one group of parents. The main culprit is Yasu, who operates as Shannon and Kanon.

>> No.9887628

I preferred Umineko for the superior characters. Everything else was a mixed bag.

>> No.9887638

>>9887621
Based on what? We're not even certain the information we were given were not forgeries. If we want to be even more pedantic, we can't even be certain Battler was not a nutjob. Shit gets super vague if you look at it too close.

>> No.9887645

hated the shit mystery solutions. it would have been redeemable without the retarded solutions. I take magic end over it.

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>>9887638

>We're not even certain the information we were given were not forgeries.

What exactly do you mean by that? We've never seen what happened on the 'real' Rokkenjima, that is, the Rokkenjima of Ange-1998.
But that's not what the answers most people wanted were. What people wanted was how the murders of EPs 1 to 6 were carried out, and that's what was answered.

>If we want to be even more pedantic, we can't even be certain Battler was not a nutjob.

I fail to see what that has to do with anything.

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