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9850211 No.9850211 [Reply] [Original]

Hey /jp/. Let's pile up or money and make an online business.

Any ideas?
I'm thinking about an online girlfriend app. The users buy it and we pretend to be their gfs online.

>> No.9850213

>>9850211
btw im a girl

>> No.9850214

>>9850211
that sounds pretty gay dude
i aint no faggot

>> No.9850217

>>9850211

Pretty good but we don't have enough people to satisfy the demand.

And you well know that we'd just be our own customers. I can't resist a jpsie.

>> No.9850220

>>9850217

your mother cant resist me either

In all seriousness, I think either a social networking site or Jewish image site like Canvas would be the best online money making option today.

>> No.9850222

>>9850211
You know, there are already tons of call services for that. Not a new idea at all.

>> No.9850226

>>9850223

fyi im a guy

>> No.9850227

>>9850223
How come you never answer my questions?

>> No.9850223
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9850223

I'm a girl!

Ask me anything!

>> No.9850228

If you're even 1% serious, just do a manga translation service. There's plenty of loli manga out there to translate on commission.

>> No.9850229

>>9850222
I think he means a service that does the same thing but without the lewd stuff.

I think something like that can only work in Japan, though.

>> No.9850231

>>9850223
What's the input for that cool "Banana" trip?

>> No.9850234

>>9850229

We could market it to /r9k/, they seem to really care about not having girlfriends - it's the topic of 95% of their threads.

>> No.9850235

>>9850229
You got that right. Even so you can pretend to be all cute and platonic all you like. Still got a boner.

>> No.9850253

>>9850234
Why doesn't /r9k/ just hook up with /soc/?

>> No.9850256 [DELETED] 

>users

More like LOSERS, am I right?

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>>9850256

>> No.9850271

I thought about making a programmable girlfriend app, but then removing the actual program and replacing it with a person seems easier.

>> No.9850276

I'd do it. At least three people are in love with me over the internet, so I wouldn't mind being paid.

>> No.9850281 [DELETED] 

Some folk from /a/ were working on an Android app called iWaifu or something.

Let's make an app, /jp/!

>> No.9850298

>>9850281
an app to test your autism levels would sell

>> No.9850299

Why not just roleplay as Touhous or something. I'm sure most of /jp/ has already mastered it.

>> No.9850302

I would definitely do it. I just want someone to talk to sometimes, at getting paid to do it wouldn't be so bad. I worry it would be too impersonal though.

>> No.9850306

I don't need money. I've been taking college classes for 6 years, dropping most of the classes after financial aid kicks in. This way I've been able to keep from graduating and I get 2-3k free spending cash each semester.

>> No.9850307

>>9850299
With the amount of personality provided. It should be an easy task. If your customer complains that you are not acting in character. Just blame him for being into off-canon.

>> No.9850308 [DELETED] 

>>9850298
The tests already exist, so someone has probably made it into an app already:
http://autismresearchcenter.com/arc_tests

>> No.9850313

Let's all move into a huge house like mexicans and get jobs at a local steel mill.

>> No.9850337 [DELETED] 

>>9850313
>>>/soc/

>> No.9850350

>>9850313
/jp/ mansion - the harsh reality

>> No.9850913

>>9850228
How do I do this. Someone tell me how I can turn my Japanese skills into money.

>> No.9850945

>>9850211
What about a browser dating sim where you can customize your gf/bf? You would make an account and your lover would be saved on it, so you can login to meet them.
That would be a lot cheaper.

>> No.9850956

>we pretend to be their gfs online
This thing doesn't seem to work anymore, unless you're targeting teenagers or casual MMO players.

>social networking
Would be raided by normalfags pretending to be otakus/hikkis/etc so bad idea.

>roleplay as Touhous or something
People think that roleplay is the worst kind of attitude on internet so I bet we'd be raided by the haters as soon as we started.
Besides roleplayers tends to forget about the real character and always try to add their own 'touch' or something, which turn into something more like another slut acting on internet, just check /cgl/.

>The /jp/ mansion
I think we've got something good here, but without mexicans please.

>> No.9851006

Let's just each sell one of our kidneys!

>> No.9851056

>>9851006
we can have a sperm farm going. Imagine the money we could make with a house full of /jp/sies selling their blood and semen

>> No.9851082

>>9851056
I thought the sperm banks had some kind of DNA quality check, the customers wouldn't be happy to pay for flawed goods.

>> No.9851078

>>9851056
But if we sold our sperm, could we still become wizards?
I mean doesn't that technically count?

>> No.9851081

DIS GREET /v/ APROVE PLZ GO WE BUY

>> No.9851089

>>9851056
I doubt most /jp/sies are good enough specimens for sperm donation

>> No.9851197

I run two online businesses, and tried my hand at the translation scene a while back. Commissions come and go, and unless you get a lot of exposure there won't be too many people coming to YOU for translation requests unless you manage to corner a market through either association with a preexisting group or through use of superb quality, a rare language, and unusually fast completions.

Even then, it's touch and go, and hardly enough to keep a large group sustained, three or four people could do reasonably well like that though.

Manufacturing is where it's at. People pay all kinds of crazy sums for quality small batch production. Find something you can make, find a market that will buy it, and go to town.

>> No.9851236

http://otakucrush.com/
You could buy this and get mad dosh/pussey

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>>9850211
The problem with your business is that's difficult to scale. Conversations have to be done by actual humans and so you need one employee for every active customer. Spreading customers over several time zones may helps but doing the typical startup thing and growing from 50 to 50.000 signups in months is impossible to do.
Recruiting ``girlfriends'' off /jp/ will only work in the beginning. With growing traction we'd need to spread our net for employees wider and wider, increasing the cost (and time) of training more and more.

>>9851197
>>9850228
Maybe providing a platform for translators would work. Like eBay or https://www.exploithub.com/, people could post translation requests and amount of money their willing to pay. Translators would pick up these request and the requester pays us the money in full. We function as an escrow service and coffer it. After the translator is done and the customer received it we'd forward the money. Translator would own pseudonyms and the ``stars'' could offer their services to the highest bidder. In both situations we'd keep a percentage of every transaction as fee. Our job would be keeping the platform running and doing conflict resolution when translator and requester disagree on quality, etc.

>> No.9851514

This thread is a dud, so I don't expect any real responses, but I'll give it a try anyway.

A coworker and I were discussing the possibility of acquiring the equipment necessary to print dakimakura come tax refund season. The thought in this was that a north american based company doing this would assist in keeping costs down on domestic shipping while avoiding the hassle that customs can sometimes be. If we do this, we'd also produce pillows cut to the actual dimensions used by the cover, thus providing a somewhat more reliable way to source them than importing them from directly from japan. While it seems the niche certainly exists for a company to do this, so long as they can compete with hong kong quality and prices, I'm not certian it would be entirely worth the investment. It's hard to gauge what the actual interest in such a thing might be.

As a note, the hypothetical company would market only to north americans, potentially to the handful of south americans who care about this shit as well pending research of the applicable laws. The reasoning for this is that with international shipping and VAT european customers wouldn't see any real savings over asian based companies already established, as well concern over draconian laws against pornography over there.

So /jp/, would you buy from an english language company?

>> No.9851543

>>9851514
You couldn't sell loli nude covers.

>> No.9851552

>>9851514
I had a similar idea. A common complaint on /jp/ (that I too have) is that most Dakmakuras are too lewd. Printing dakis where your waifu is wearing a cute pj instead of underwear ripped to shreds could be quite a product.

>> No.9851560

>>9851552
He's just printing not designing.

>> No.9851570

>>9851543
This depends on what you, and the law consider loli.
Obviously this would mean toddlercon is out, but some things can be a little stretched as long as it's within reason. Hardcore loli fans are still going to be left to hong kong sellers if they want nudes though, but that's beyond our control.

>>9851552
This is a problem into itself, as we wouldn't be commissioning art for such things ourselves, and it would be at the initiative of the customer to handle that or not.

On that note, I have considered the possibility of discussing with some artists who do quality commissions and affiliating them with the company to ease the process for all parties involved, at least one I use myself has shown interest, but nothing concrete yet.

>> No.9851590

>>9851570
Want to hire me?

>> No.9851603

cheap lawsues

>> No.9851606

>>9851590
The business itself would be grown from our existing tailoring business, so employees are already covered.

If you're an artist, link to your gallery and if it's up to snuff it'll be included with possible candidates should we get to that point.

>> No.9851612

>>9851514
Where would you acquire character rights and printing rights for established covers, or the resources to make your own original ones that didn't look like shit? If you're just going to steal copyrighted characters, why care about loli laws either?

>> No.9851629

>>9851612
A valid concern, as all covers printed would be from customer sent images without any actual gallery of our own, and the lack of interest in pursuing legal action from the original creators, we feel that a CaD is the most likely course of action they would pursue, should they care at all. While loli can be seen as a crime of a much more serious nature.

Obviously, this isn't something that we expect to last a very long time as the laws continue to get stricter and more regularly enforced. For now a grey area exists, that can be exploited.

>> No.9851651

>>9851629
>While loli can be seen as a crime of a much more serious nature.

Between the two, loli isn't actually illegal.

>> No.9851656 [DELETED] 

>>9851651
It is in the United States and most of Europe.

>> No.9851659

>>9851651
This leaves a great corner of the market for you to claim yourself then, doesn't it?

>> No.9851666

>>9851656
The United States of Mexico maybe.

>> No.9851679

How much would you pay to /jp/ers?

How would you make more money from the app? Would you sell extras?

>> No.9851689

Why don't we just prostitute?

>> No.9851700

>>9851651

People sell drugs on the internet and ship them world wide.

It shouldn't be hard to hide a pillow cover.

>> No.9851772

Microtransactions for ERP sessions.

I'm doing it already, so I may as well whore myself out in the process.

>> No.9851789 [DELETED] 

>>9851666
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1466A

>> No.9851808

I really wish a audiobook where I could have adventures and people would talk to me and tell me all the awesome things I'm doing.

Maybe that's a new market, or maybe is just me. I like to listen to those youtube videos where someone cuts your hair, but lately I want something more exciting to listen while I'm busy drawing and I can't look at the screen.

>> No.9851832 [DELETED] 

>>9851808
Do a real life CYOA. Wear some headphones and perhaps use some sort of camera, and have people on the internet tell you what to do. Only allow non-bullies so they make you do nice things and improve your quality of life.

>> No.9851842

>>9851656
It's legal in Germany if both parties involved are underage.

>> No.9851896

>>9851772
Post you're Steam.

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>>9851896
I prefer not to use steam for ERP, it means signing onto my alt.

Are you genuinely interested?

>> No.9851947

>>9851927
Not for paying, but I thought it might be nice to talk to a fellow /jp/ ERPer.

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>>9851947
email and AIM

I'm not trying to get you to pay! That would be harsh to do for real

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>>9850231
>What's the input for that cool "Banana" trip?
2nd this

>> No.9851991

Aren't you supposed to use Second Life for that thing?

>> No.9852303

>>9851966
So what is your deal?

Lately I have seen more of these ERP things while I remember only a few years ago RP was almost considered a crime.

>> No.9852801

http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/news/illustration/deviantart-launch-dreamup-illustration-design-c
ommissioning-site/

I know /jp/ doesn't like DA but this could be of use for artists in the future.

>> No.9852813

>>9851449
>``

Didn't read the rest of your post.

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9852825

What makes you think that if I invest in you, I'll get a return?

>> No.9852856

>>9851449
Even more so after seeing >>9852801, I think the translation think could actually work. It would be something a lot smaller though, so I don't know if it would bring back the money and effort of programming and designing the whole thing, and later maintaining.

>>9851514
If they're good quality, why the fuck wouldn't I? And I'm even from the South America you mentioned. You need not worry about lack of interested people so long as you, as you said yourself, can compete with the Asian counterparts in terms of quality and prices.

>> No.9852915

>>9852801

We never had a problem with DA. You might be thinking of /a/ but even they grew out of the "anon iz leejun, yiff in hell furray xD" phase and they're cool with DA too.

>> No.9852923

That's actually not a bad idea, OP.

I think to really sell it we're gonna need some dating sim elements and perhaps a femanon to donate her time for premium phone sex DLC.

So, where do we go with this?

>> No.9852945

Why don't we....
                       .... start a blog ring....
                                                       .... and rip off AdSense!

>> No.9852946

I do not have the programming skills to make this work but I've always wanted a shitty anime list website combined with an avatar website where you get points for recording anime you've watched that you can buy items to dress up a shitty virtual avatar with. It'd be like Gaia minus the forum element. You could lie about how many anime you've seen to get more points but that would be stupid and a waste of time because it's a game for one so there'd be no one to impress.

>> No.9852954

>>9852945
We already tried but ironically /jp/ is too lazy to blog outside of /jp/.

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9852959

I have an idea for a game too! It's called Jump to Conclusions.

You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor... and would have different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO!

>> No.9852969

>>9852954
Oh....
         .... well, what if we....
                                      .... invested in Forex!

>> No.9852983

>>9852969
Please stop doing that!

I remember the Forex threads from awhile back. Way to much effort. I recall bangcocks doing well with it.

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>>9852959
>Loose one turn
Better make sure to tighten it back up afterward.

>> No.9853050

>>9852959
>moot

Christ, can't you people do anything these days without injecting silly memes and Internet references into it? At least your game will be a hit with all the high school kids that frequent 4chan.

>> No.9853055

>>9853050
Are you serious? My reply depends on your answer, but after I respond proper, please delete your posts so that no one will know that I had to ask.

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>>9853055

I understand that many people here never leave their homes, so you might not know it, but "Internet culture" has invaded the real world.

>> No.9853124

>>9853050
It's an Office Space reference. The picture is from a movie made in 1999. How delusional do you have to be to see 4chan everywhere?

>> No.9853130

>>9853114
I think the Lambda & Bern image hurts me the most. They could have been one of us, but they were sucked into whyweprotest faggotry and ended up being 31337 eActivist instead.

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>>9853130
I hate the change from this into the underage faggot the most.

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9853160

Please do not support the Jewish overlords by making enough money to purchase their obscenely overpriced products. Doing this will not only rob you of time, which is the most valuable thing in life, but it will also help support the insatiable greed of this society that we live in where everyone is forced to become a wage slave so that they can continue to live in their debtors' prisons (homes)

You only need to make 5-10 dollars each day to be able to live comfortably in any of the reasonably priced alternative forms of housing like cob homes, straw-bale homes, storage container homes, or a simple and small wooden home that you could make yourself. The upfront cost of buying a small acre of rural land, creating any of these types of homes, and having a well installed on the property is less than a few thousand dollars at the absolute most and after that point you only need around 200 dollars a month to cover the few minor expenses you would have and a decent internet connection.

That is equivalent to one hour of minimum wage and only 7 hours each week, but they would have you work for 40+ hours a week so that you can live in their closet-sized apartments that cost 800+ dollars a month. You could easily pull this money from an hour of simple online work, just something like the transcription work on mechanical turk that is available to anyone can pay you 1 dollar for transcribing two minutes of audio.

>> No.9853184

>>9853114
Oh wow, poor R35 GTR. A beautiful car like that owned by a humongous faggot...
That makes me extremely angry, holy fuck.

>> No.9853200

>>9853136
I'm confused, he went to college and then university? Excuse me?

>> No.9853229

>>9853200
People who care about money would go to community college first, where they take shit like Intro to Pre-Algebra and English 101. Tuition is like 25% that of a university and for the basic classes, it's the same shit that hasn't changed in 200 years anc could easily be replaced by Wikipedia (but Wikipedia doesn't transfer, and you can't put it on a resume when you need to GET DAT PAY-PA, NYUHGA!).

>> No.9853276

>>9853229
actually you can find some decent CC's (at least here in California) that teach stuff that you can use for a real major (such as my biology major), and then transfer and still do a BA in 3-4 if you actually try

but yah, for the most part this guy is right, you don't even need to graduate high school to get it, they have no standards, and most people drop out
they're also useful for specific job training

but yah, I also wish there were some kind of easily affordable test one could take, or just pay to take some college classes final and if you pass, you get credits, but it isn't that way

>> No.9853289

>>9853276
>actually you can find some decent CC's (at least here in California) that teach stuff that you can use for a real major (such as my biology major)
I never said you couldn't.

>but yah, for the most part this guy is right, you don't even need to graduate high school to get it, they have no standards, and most people drop out
>they're also useful for specific job training
What the fuck are you talking about? This is practically indecipherable and you reference things that were never said. Use better grammar, stop saying `but yah', and write like a grown up your fucking moron. It looks like you ripped your shitty reply right off of facebook. Take some damn pride in your posts for fucks sake.

>but yah, I also wish there were some kind of easily affordable test one could take, or just pay to take some college classes final and if you pass, you get credits, but it isn't that way
You can, it's called credit by examination, talk to the dean.

>> No.9853295

USA is really fucked up when it comes to education and diplomas. It's hard for me to imagine how horrible it must be to try and find a job there when you haven't set yourself in debt for the rest of your life just to get a fancier name on your diploma.

>> No.9853389

>>9853295
Yeah, it's the Jew master mind.

I think NEETs are like Leonardo da Vincis, because we learn all day, and do interesting things without needing money, with our thirst to learn new things or become a better person.

In a way, NEETs are ubermenschs.

>> No.9853396

>>9853160
>tfw I just want to live in a small room above Starbucks, and I would drink a $5 starbucks every morning as I write my book ;__;

>> No.9853400

>>9853389

It's really sad that you'd go that far to glorify your life as a freeloading leech and loser.

>> No.9853410

>>9853400
Yes and no, NEETs don't need many things, besides some food, bed, and internet with computer.

NEETs are view as parasites because they don't contribute montary wise to society, I'm sure we can put NEETs into good use, perhaps do translation work or something.

>> No.9853418

>>9853400
>tfw niggers on welfare aren't view as parasites but neets are ;__;

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>>9853418

">tfw" you take your shitty memes arrows back to stormfront.

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>>9853400

NEETs are valuable members of society because they have no value whatsoever to society.

That might not make a lot of sense, but think about it for a minute. If everyone worked very hard and pushed themselves so that they were as efficient as possible in everything that they do then we would live in a world where it's impossible to relax and everyone would constantly be working their asses off like bees in a hive. They wouldn't even understand the concept of relaxation because there are no examples of lazy people for them to look to.

NEETs are the embodiment of carefree laziness and their contribution to society is actually their lack of any real contribution. By not contributing anything to the society that they live in they set an example for others and other people realize that maybe they don't need to work extra hard so they can afford that big house or that fancy car because there's this guy living in his mother's basement with barely anything and he's happier than I am.

NEETs or anyone who lives a simple life and works very little promotes a minimalist style of living and other people benefit from seeing this since they will incorporate it in their own lives. NEETs helps remind the people of the society they live in that you should slow down from time to time and just relax.

>> No.9853479

>>9853478

Did you kick any piss bottles over as you typed that?

>> No.9853482

>>9853478
Your argument is as flawed as "murderers exist to promote the value of life".

>> No.9853504

>>9853482
"I like to spew shitty analogies all the time because it is cool" - u

>> No.9853508

>>9853504
Ad hominem.

>> No.9853517

>>9853482

>Your argument is as flawed as "murderers exist to promote the value of life".

Death in general does promote the value of life though.

I know that I benefit when I hear that someone was murdered or killed in an accident. Depending on how close you were to the incident it can be like a mini near death experience. There's a feeling of, "That could have been me" and when these things happen it makes me really appreciate life.

For example, I knew someone from back in highschool and recently he died in a car accident. I heard about it and of course I felt bad for his family, but I also felt a great appreciation for life after hearing about it because this was someone the same age as I am and now he's dead, but I'm still alive and now every day I try to savor life even more than I used to since next time it could just as easily be me.

Seeing death reminds you of your own mortality and that encourages you to try to enjoy your life as much as you can.

>> No.9853519

>>9853508
"I like to spew shitty psychology 101 terms because it is cool" - u

>> No.9853533

>>9853519
Uhh...it's a logical fallacy, nothing to do with psychology. But being a truNEET all day and doing nothing but masturbating to eroge can melt your brain, so I sympathize with your plight.

>>9853517
It doesn't promote it. It does the opposite. Of course, it can indirectly bring attention to the opposing thing that it does (e.g., mass shootings driving the public to ban certain weapons), if it is particularly attention-grabbing, but that is still achieved by doing the opposite of its aim.

>> No.9853543

>>9853533
It's a logical fallacy if I was trying to disapprove your argument with that which I wasnt. Try harder, normie.

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>>9853533

>It doesn't promote it. It does the opposite.

It doesn't promote life, but it promotes the value of life. Life is only as valuable as you think it is and seeing things that remind you that you will also die will make you value life more than you used to. If you feel like you're invincible then you won't value life at all because you will believe that you have an eternity to do whatever you want to do in life and then there's no reason to cherish each day. That's obviously not true, but if you have no concept of death then you will feel that way and it will make you see very little value in life.

It's like this with most things in life. You need opposites, it's the yin and yang of it all. Bob Ross said it best.

>> No.9853561

>>9853556
Bullshit, Bob Ross didn't say that.

>> No.9853602

>>9853561

I'm pretty sure he did. I've seen the quote attributed to Bob Ross a lot. He made nearly 500 episodes though and he says little things like that in all of them so I don't know which specific episode it came from.

>> No.9853764

>>9853478
>tfw NEETs and Buddhist monks live very similar lifestyle
>tfw NEETs are seen as a parasites, while monks are seem as holy spirits

>> No.9853786

>>9853533
>It doesn't promote it
In the same way that something has form only because of nothing, death is what gives life its meaning. A person who has never felt sadness cannot appreciate joy.

>>9853602
I wouldn't be surprised. It's a very basic aspect of composition to work with contrast. Moreover, Bob Ross was popular during that time when Eastern philosophy was hip. It only seems natural to tie the two together.

>> No.9853812

>>9853478
>>9853517

Amazingly smart anon is smart. You also made a post on >>9853160.

Please post more, I'm intrigued.

>> No.9854059
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We all sharing /jp/ related online business ideas? I've got big dreams /jp/, I'll share one of my ideas I've had for a while (which I was eventually going to make a thread about anyway).

The gist of it is to translate and sell non-H doujinshi for less than their Japanese price, with most of the money going back to the Japanese circles and the translators. This is all done with permission from those circles of course.

I'll start the business alone, but /jp/ can get involved when I start to informally hire translators/editors (hire as freelance, or independent contractor...I think) once I generate enough money. Each of these translators would first be granted a miniscule commission fee, plus a small percentage of sales of their translated doujins. I'd elaborate more, but that'd only create a longer wall of text.

However, that's only if this business generates enough money in the first place. The question is, would enough people be willing to pay money for translated doujins, non-H even? My common sense tells me no, but I'm probably going to do it anyway.

>> No.9854109

>>9854059

>This is all done with permission from those circles of course.

That's where you will mess up if you try to do this. Too much corporate bullshit to cut through, if you're not an established translation company with the right connections then you won't even get a chance to talk to these people, let alone have them green light your translations and allow you to sell it. Most translators only do their work for free because that's the legal way to do it, but these people are what I call "worry-wart weeaboos." They freak out about anything that isn't 100% legal as if some fucking Japanese SWAT team is going to burst through their window for getting some money by selling translations on obscure otaku products.

The good news though is that the internet exists. You don't have to be legitimate anymore, legally grey things like this are a non-issue and you can just have money funneled into your paypal account and essentially tell everyone else to piss off.

You could make a lot by being a reliable translator who will work on commission and translate copyright material for fans. There's so much obscure shit that doesn't get translated, especially if you would dip into VNs and H-games. There are still some popular Illusion games that have been out for years and don't have a full translation for anything more than the UI, many people would pay $80 or more per game just to get a story translation on those.

>> No.9854158

>>9854109

Reasons like this is really why the doujin world should really embrace copyleft for everything. In specific, adopting a license that straddles both sides of the Creative commons seems like it'd be really useful if more adopted it...in specific, the Peer Production License (http://p2pfoundation.net/Peer_Production_License))

Would reward the creators/groups and encourage anons like /jp/ to share with no legal worries. Only big megacorps would have to pay.

>> No.9854166

>>9853478

The Tao of Ferris Bueller's Day Off

>> No.9854174

>>9854158
Doujin creators don't have a strong interest in their stuff being free, but I think mostly they don't license it with anything because they don't give a shit.

>> No.9854196

>>9854109
The problem with translating games and similar stuff is that maybe 1 dude will pay for it, the rest will just pirate it, because that's how the western audience works. You're far better off doing commissions for manga, and splitting the money with someone who wants to typeset. Games have so much text that it's not really worth working on commission.

>> No.9854290

>>9854196

This is why its better to grow closer to your audience by encouraging them to help you along by way of purchase/donation/word of mouth and do so in a copyleft way that empowers the fan as much as they do you. In making a pure license dedicated to this point such as the one above, everyone wins except for for-profit buisness owners who would then have to pay/license the work to use it at all. The more popular it becomes will only work in its favor. Its a smarter way to do things than to shoot in the dark and to do nothing....copyright owners want the world under their copyright boot, so why not deprive them of the chance? Not doing so will only play into their game in the longer run - see the abysmal state of public domain laws which are laughablely sad in their present (and likely future state, since those in power can afford to spend political points to extend it however long they wish - see the Sonny Bono Act)

>> No.9854301

>https://archive.org/details/KeynoteAddressByCoryDoctorowsiggraph2011

>https://archive.org/details/QuestionCopyright.org_Nina_Paley_Sita_Interview_2008_11_06

>https://archive.org/details/TheSystemOfOwnershipOfIdeas

>> No.9854305

>>9854290
>In making a pure license dedicated to this point such as the one above, everyone wins.
I can't see how this is different in any way from the current state of no licenses whatsoever.

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>>9852303

Ah, sorry, I went to bed before seeing this last night.

What's my deal? Well, mostly I like to play as anime girls, or people's waifus, or whatever they want. It's just fun. Though it's hard to find partners. I suspect a lot of people on 4chan would be up for it, but it's difficult to post about it anywhere.

If you're interested or curious or something feel free to drop me an email at the address I gave. I promise I'm friendly!

>> No.9854377

>>9854109
Isn't it pretty simple to get in touch with a circle? Just message them on Pixiv or something, otherwise directly exchange business cards at a Comiket or other event. I didn't think that they'd have the organizational formality to require something to be "green-lighted," or other corporate bullshit. Of course, I could think of other ways that asking for permission would screw me...but this wasn't one of them.
>>9854196
I've thought of ways to deal with piracy, at least for doujinshi. I could make them cheaper (like 2-3 bucks for 30 pages, maybe even less) and I could also give circles the option to offer them for free after around six months or so. You'd in essence be paying a few bucks to be able to view them earlier.
It also won't go as far as to damage the circles' sales, as it's only the translated version that's being pirated.
As for games...it's not as easy. You can't just offer them for free, of course. If it's an original work though, it can be registered for copyright, and I could use DMCA requests to take pirates down. If piratebay doesn't respond to DMCAs though, this whole point is moot.
I'm pretty uneducated on this topic in general, but this discussion helps me a lot. It gets me thinking, at least.

>> No.9854400

>>9854377
Why do you hate freedom?

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9854426

I actually do make money off Forex funnily enough.

It's only like $12/hr though since my balance is so small. I could make just as much working retail with 1/10 the stress. I look and feel like I've aged 10 years in the last 3 doing this.

>> No.9856843

>>9854328
Are you a boy? Do you even play husbandos?

>> No.9856850

>>9854426
Yes I have heard similar things from other people. The joke is when it takes more time and effort to earn free money than it does to work an actual job.

>> No.9856889

>>9856843
When I talked to her she only played girls.

>> No.9856901

>>9854377
>>9854109
>>9854059
I think you all misunderstand the hobby culture of Japan. Doujinshi creators are far more like Makers of the western Maker Faire phenomenon than what passes for otaku or even comic book geeks.

The majority of the stuff that gets sold is half-finished, an incremental version, or bite-sized. The stuff that gets circulated on the internet isn't really representative of what actually gets made and sold at events like Comiket. The stuff that gets really popular is usually from large commercial circles, they are industrialized doujinshi creators that sell their new books on the release day at the major specialized shops several hours after the event release. Their business platform is serving the niche market they already know, with already established deals.

On the other hand, real doujinshi circles have mostly become one-man circles and they really do it for the hell of it. They would not be as keen on making it more work than it already is, since it's actually a hobby.

So the whole idea is kind of futile since not many in Japan actually care enough or can be bothered.

>> No.9856910

>>9856889
I vaguely remember an anon doing something similar a while back but it was clearly a guy and acted like a guy acting like a girl.

>> No.9862470

How can I become a spammer with a botnet and connections to the Russian mob?

>> No.9862475

>>9862470

Tor.

>> No.9862482

>>9862470
I was labeled a spammer by spamhaus because I sent out a single email, without the X-* headers from my VPS. That was the only email I sent, ever, and it was too myself. Then my VPS kicked me off.

Apparently, spamming is harder than it looks.

>>9862475
Tor exit nodes blocks port 25 by default though.

>> No.9862492

Let's mine bitcoins.

>> No.9862502

Oh, BUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGHOLE

Also, almost anything to do with money online that doesn't involve a real business somewhere that leases real office space and employs real people, etc. is guaranteed to be some kind of scam. Hell, half of everything that actually has brick-and-mortar offices is scammy shit. If the internet was somebody's conspiracy to troll for crooks and beggars or something, I'd call it a great success, it's like flypaper for frauds and bullshitters or something.

>> No.9862530

Everyone give me your money so I can invest it in forex.

>> No.9862550

>>9862530
I have 20$ and a 6 pack of dr pepper, will that do?

>> No.9862585

>>9862550
>FBI — Hedge Fund Fraud
>www.fbi.gov › About Us › What We Investigate › White-Collar Crime
>Hedge Fund Information for Investors. Hedge funds are minimally regulated private investment partnerships that historically accept only high-wealth investors.

Go "mine" buttcoins. You can actually make money that way if you've got your machine casually plugged into somebody else's electricity at a dorm or something.

>> No.9862604

>>9862550
Needs a little more, and Dr. Pepper is for retarded southerners. Here's what you need to do: wait until the dead of night, sneak into your parent's room, find your dad's wallet or mom's purse, and take all the cash out. Send it to me and I'll make you rich in no time.

>> No.9862610

>>9862604
Its "Dr Pepper" you fucking retarded southerner.

>> No.9862618

>>9862610
Only a retarded southerner like you and the maker of Dr. Pepper would leave the period out of an abbreviation.

>> No.9862645

Is it legal to make touhou apps?

>> No.9862657

>>9862645
No, ZUN will sue you, then he'll make an insert of you in a game and kill you off.

>> No.9862664

>>9850211
All us gaijins could have seminar training on how to handle peoples problems like school counselors and then go set up shops across Japan to offer self-problem solving with Giajin assistance/cry on a gaijin's shoulder.

We have been over this before from what I have posted. Japan has little to no mental health assistance. They have ear cleaning parlors where they rest their heads on women's laps, so they clean their ears, just so they can talk to someone. They are socially restricted beyond what we ever see in any other country; not even in marriage are they able to show full expression. Their doctors tell them to "Just try harder; try harder" and "Go find a Gaijin to talk to and cry on his shoulder" when they come for sadness and depression help. The Great Emperor and Princes had to do advertisements for Zoloft, just to get them to try to take it for depression......it didn't work.....

This link is just a mere glimpse into what the Japanese face socially and culturally...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XX30-Ez8xg

We would make it big in Japan boys, as long as we put in hard work and meaning to our customers, we could make it.

>> No.9862667

>>9862657
Cool, at least he'll be the first male in the games and get tons of fanart/doujins of him fucking Touhous.

>> No.9862678

Apps are gay as fuck.

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>>9862678
Oh yeah I guess there are some explicitly gay phone apps, why do you ask?

>> No.9862708

>>9862664
Why was http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uGaY_HqM78 a recommended video to that?

>> No.9862733

>>9862708
Just to show what the Japanese go through in school, like in the beginning of life. Like stay in line, don't act out, work work work

>> No.9867407

>>9853602
if he said it, someone would've put it on YouTube by now.

also, bumping this thread for entrepreneurial ideas

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