東方蒼神縁起 - The Genius of Sappheiros

[Anonymous No.]

An incredibly in-depth Touhou RPG.
Previous thread: >>9766850

The translation for the Weekend version(same game, new changes) has been released.
Prepatched game with the expansion and translation can be found here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?a8c1by6btaid7
Make sure to extract in Japanese locale or alternatively if you're having trouble running the game, try removing moonrunes from the folder names.

Weekend version introduces a rebalancing of learning and drop rates, most "1% or less" rates are now 10-15%. In addition most synthesis recipes now require slightly less materials and the Kusanagi sword requiring 25 less iron. You can actually build stuff pretty often now.

There's also a minimap, hit Select (Default D on keyboard) to toggle transparency!

You can also turn on easy mode at any time for non-boss battles where the damage is halved for you and you gain minor offensive bonuses. (Such as increased chance to land status effects).
No one ever does, however, not unless you're in elementary school.

The game also happens to run at 1/4th of the processing power it used to demand. Save games are compatible with 2.07 and up, but a save game converter should be able to help you out.

The death penalty of losing your gathered, but not yet claimed items, has been removed. You no longer need to exit the dungeon to claim your items, and death only means you get kicked out of the dungeon.

Make sure to read the manual, and the "gameplay" section on the wiki, it covers basic systems.
Have you had some trouble fighting a boss? Trying to make sense of stage design? Finding out that you need to split your party too late? Discuss it here in this thread!

Wiki at http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros.. Walkthrough contains spoilers for boss fights, be wary.

[Anonymous No.]

Obviously, talking about 東方幻想魔録 (Devil of Decline) and 東方百鬼合戦 (Nagiri Sen?) is welcome as well.

All I did was ctrl+c ctrl+v from the previous OP, so forgive me if I didn't add anything to it.

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>>9818286
For Nagiri Sen, have people STILL not found the passwords besides Lithos?

[Anonymous No.]

Bump.

[Anonymous No.]

Just got to Alice. The difficulty really went up suddenly. Better grind and be done with it I guess.

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>>9820514
This game is about strategy, not grinding. A few levels really doesn't help in this game most of the time. This is not a game where you can just pick your favorite characters and grind them throughout the entire game.

[Anonymous No.]

Just a little bit longer until I get to the most fun part of the game. Hahaha...

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>>9818276
I normally hate these types of games with all my passion, But I guess I'll finally give it a try.

[Anonymous No.]

I normally really dislike these games, But I'll finally give it a try, I hope I do well!

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I got terrible luck against Komachi. I seem to get that AoE attack almost every round and can't keep up with the damage. I try buffing resistance with Sanae and have dark resistance items on almost all characters for the fight, but still no luck. Any good tips? Formations? Strategies?

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>>9820580
I did everything possible to boost evasion/reduce her accuracy iirc

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>>9820580
Use light and earth attacks.

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>>9820532
Yeah sure. I can't beat her even when I kill all the dolls but one so I could theoretically just unload on her.

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>>9820580
Change your formation to free fight, and just spam Alice's Marionette Parrar. Don't forget to put as many points into her Manipulation skill tree. It helps out A LOT. Trust me. Also, you could try using Byakuren's Induction buff on herself, or Satori. Use Nitori as your commander, so when Komachi charges power, you can use her three bomb skill and avoid damage.

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>>9820659
Using that strategy worked for me. I just used Sanae A LOT, and hoped that Alice wouldn't use "Straw Doll Kamikaze" too often.

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>>9820659

Try different things.
After the fourth wave of dolls or so she just stops spawning them. Sanae with Wily Toad can kill an entire wave of them in one shot. Also try switching those growth points around, maybe a setup that was better for dungeon crawling isn't as good against bosses.
I did not change my party from the original Raymoo-Aya-Sakuya-Marisa-Sanae with commander Patchouli combo until halfway through the game.

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>>9820683
>I did not change my party from the original Raymoo-Aya-Sakuya-Marisa-Sanae with commander Patchouli combo until halfway through the game.
That's pretty tough to do, unless you can beat Kisume within ten turns. Considering she gets an instant KO on one party member every other turn. That and the Eientei party split stage would've murdered your weaker team.

[Anonymous No.]

why don't you little girl worshippers play a real man's game with some actual difficulty like Etrian Odyssey

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>>9820723
>actual difficulty
I'd like to say that, by person opinion, GoS is a lot harder than Etrian Odyssey, because of the fact that it takes more in-depth strategy to beat bosses.

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>>9820723

But I already played that.

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>>9820712

I did beat Kisume with that team and I sent the weaker but buffed team to beat a severely debuffed Tewi. Not that hard, really.

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>>9820732
If you could go back, and record that, I'd really like to see it. How many times were you defeated by them?

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>>9820736
Tewi would be pretty easy if you just buffed your teams evade and/or lowered Tewi's accuracy even more than it already is. I beat Tewi and Reisen my first time through and had no idea what I would be in for.

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>>9820736

... Quite a lot, actually, since Tewi was all about luck and back then I thought that I only needed the -HIT debuff. After I got my shit together it was just a matter of time until the RNG god decided I should win.

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>>9820751
You don't really mind if I don't believe that, right? Considering Reisen would full party fuck you within a couple turns without Alice, or any type of lowering her accuracy (which is pretty tough to induce). Tewi's pretty tough when she heals herself, and takes all negative effects off of herself. You can only get so lucky with dodging her attacks, before one of her full party attacks hits pretty heavily. I'd also guess that you put both of the only characters that can heal, without a last word activation, in the team that fought against Reisen. Leaving your Tewi party kinda fucked in the ability to recover from Tewi's heavy attacks.

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>>9820751
Also, if Reisen hits Sanae and Reimu with berserk, you'd be done for.

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>>9820723
Does Etrian Odyssey have little girls? Because to be honest, I can hardly remember the last game I played without them by this point.

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>>9820786
Yes.

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>>9820770
What is it that Reisen does, exactly? Because she seemed really easy when I fought her. It helps that Sakuya was getting slayer damage against her. I honestly don't remember their fights that well because it didn't leave an impression.
If I remember right, my Tewi team was my caster team, meaning Mokou as tank and Nitori, Marisa, Patchouli, and Sanae doing damage/support.
Reisen's team was my physical team: Alice in front of Poison Shield protecting Youmu, Sakuya, Byakuren, and... Aya? I think? Or Satori, I don't remember that well.

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>>9820786

Yes, you can have your own manly self-insert and have a party full of little girls for you to protect.
Or just be a little girl with them.

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>>9820792
>>9820798
Sounds great. They are DS games right? Do they emulate okay?

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>>9820776
I haven't used Reimu much at all, and never for her protective abilities. I've never once used her "Barrier" spells.

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>>9820795
The attack that causes berserk would utterly dominate you, if you were using that match-up. A general hint, or tip, is to do the opposite of what you did. But leaving Alice in the caster team to spam Marionette Parrar in order to give a little more protection. Reisen's got 10k HP, and a very annoying vertical line attack. Along with a spread attack that has a high chance of inflicting berserk.

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>>9820802

I don't know about emulation, but you have to draw your own map of the dungeons, so using a Stylus is better.

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>>9820723
Have you played and beaten Genius of Sappheiros or are you just a random hater?

I solo'd EO3 and am still constantly getting mauled in GoS's expansion endgame.

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>>9820805
That's actually one of the best ways to beat Reisen. Just use Reimu's Ofunda of Healing, because it gains a spread effect, and the ability to cure status effects.

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>>9820816
I am poor and I have to buy some furniture, so if possible, emulation is much preferred.

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>>9820810
Sakuya, alone, was hitting her for a little over two thousand per hit, and I guess I just got lucky on her lineattakcs targeting Alice and her area attacks not landing berserk.
I just remember breezing through Tewi and Reisen, then having a hell of a time getting through Kaguya/Eirin. Kaguya and Yuyuko's fights were definitely the hardest for me, so far.

[Anonymous No.]

Am I supposed to wait inside the shrine for Byakuren or outside on the worldmap? I guess it's inside but I don't want to waste an hour for nothing.

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>>9820841
You have to be in the shrine. Download Cheat Engine and speed up the program to 20X normal, be done in three minutes.

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>>9820841
You have to wait inside the temple.

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>>9820852
>>9820855
Thank you.

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>>9820838
You must have. You really should have recorded that fight. I mean, I really would have loved to see that done within the first attempt without you knowing what you're getting into.

[Anonymous No.]

This sure is fun.

[Anonymous No.]

Its not THAT hard to train only five or six characters. I know I did it. Same party until stage 21.
Granted, I had to grind byakuren for her to get Light/Dark sword, but that was the only instance
I guess I happened to pick the most all-around useful characters. Mokou, Marisa, Reimu, Sanae, Patchy and Sakuya
Stage 18 I just had my party clean a part, then put a character in the button, and repeat for the other parts. Nothing too hard or annoying.

Granted, now that I'm on the expasion I train everyone

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>>9821182
>Stage 18 I just had my party clean a part, then put a character in the button, and repeat for the other parts.
Oh god.
We clearly have different definitions of annoying.

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>>9821182
That'd be tougher than you'd think. If you had actually played it, your weaker party would've been dominated at the Eientei party split. Making you NEED to train those weaker members

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>>9821258
It's the same as clearing it with three individual parties, I don't see what the problem is

>>9821273
I'm guessing you meant to reply to someone else?

[Anonymous No.]

Oh god those Mind Flayers at the Palace of the Earth Spirits.

[Anonymous No.]

Even Sakuya is out of things to say.

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>>9821334
>>9821368
welcome to GoS

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>>9821368
I don't see Sanae in your party.
Well there's your problem right there.
Just start every fight with Mind Flayers by having Sanae cast Wind of Protection and you'll be totally fine. Make sure she's got lots of points in the relevant tree, too.

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>>9821307
>It's the same as clearing it with three individual parties, I don't see what the problem is
...no, no it's not. Like, at all.

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>>9821334
>>9821368
People will tell you to use Sanae's RES buff at the start of every battle. Don't; she'll go OOM fast and you'll have to backtrack constantly. Give Sakuya anti-paralyze and death gear and let her kill the things.

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>>9821527
How so?

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>>9821535
Funny. This is exactly what I did. Sanae works well as a leader for me.

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>>9821535
death sakuya is wonderful against them

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>>9821552

I was wondering if people actually used that tree. It doesn't seem very good if you ask me though, unless you're just talking about using death spells.

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>>9821547
You'd have to be out of your god damn mind to think tediously taking an optimized 6-man party down each path and sitting some level 1 wimp on each button while tediously exiting and entering after every gate to clear out more stuff for your button pushers is anything like doing it the regular way.

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>>9821582
It goes like this

Party clears the map > Character goes there to sit in the button, probably having to dodge a few enemies on the way > Repeat once more

Party Clears the map, sit on the button > Presst start > have other party clear the map and they sit on the button > repeat that

It's the same thing, really

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>>9821535
How does Sanae run out of mp when she's got her aoe mp regen? Put points into snake, slap an axe in her hands with an ACC+ accessory and spam your best snake ability. Even before I learned that, I never had mp problems with Sanae. Just don't waste it on battles that don't have dangerous statuses in them.

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>>9821590
No it's not. You're fighting with a full deck when you'd normally be playing with a third.

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>>9821599
I don't get your point

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>>9821614
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ObfuscatingStupidity

[Anonymous No.]

How do I beat Satori? Like she isn't that hard at all until she uses petrify and elixer. Everything else isn't even a thing.

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>>9822295
RES buff or Reimu's status barrier for petrify cloud, Sakuya's anti-healing world for elixer.

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>>9822295
>>9822300
Or just beat her really, really fast. That's what I did. She had barely begun her first element stage when I finished her off.

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>>9822300
But then how would I heal myself if I was ever low on HP?

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>>9822314
I would beat her really fast, but I wouldn't know of a good way to do so. What was your level at this point in the game?

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>>9822315
Put up a new field.
When Satori charges up as water, put up killing world, then cancel it out with Patchy or something afterwards.

>>9822319
Attack her? I don't know; I just hit her with big attacks and she died.

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>>9822319
I don't even remember. That was a long time ago. All I remember was that she had just started in on Fire when I beat her. I only found out what her gimmick was after the fight. I know that I would have had Mokou in tank position and getting 80 hp per turn because of Patchy keeping fire element high, but that's it. I wouldn't have had Reimu out, which means it was probably Sakuya and Marisa dealing most of the damage.

[Anonymous No.]

why does everybody keep using Mokou and Byakuren before you are supposed to get them, i didn't use them and had no problems except died like 8 times vs alice and yuyuko

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>>9822412

I dunno, I did it first time because I didn't know you could get them otherwise. This playthrough I got them normally and everything that destroyed me, would have destroyed me even if I had them. Mokou as a commander really is helpful though.

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>>9822412
What do you mean? You can unlock both characters at any point in the game and they are not imba at all (except maybe Mokou for the first two levels).

Besides, I like Mokou a lot. Of course I want her in my party right from the start.

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I associated some of the difficulty in the early levels with not being able to revive, since Sanae learns it at a higher level, and I found Mokou as a commander is imbalanced as fuck, might have been just me though.

I got Mokou early for lulz but kept her level 1 until Eientei for the sake of 'normal' playthrough.

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Eirin and Kaguya are giving me hell. I'm aware of Kaguya's particular weakness but I have no skills that take advantage of it and have had no luck getting Satori to learn them either.

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>>9822496
I like to keep Mokou on the front line just punching people. She deals huge damage and is always last to die.

Also her Last Word is neat.

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>>9821182
I really don't see what's the point of that - the two parts where you need to split parties are made well enough so you can safely make two or three parties that can have no trouble at all with the encounters on their side, while only using one party could have it's problem with some encounters, like that face cart and the blade snake. Also, the game even gives you a free experience slot so you can train those characters you just got without putting them to any risk. Why would you ignore all that instead and only use one party?
>>9822505
The werewolves in Eientei have an area Berserk skill, that should be enough.
Taking them down without abusing that isn't that hard, either. My latest fight with them had Alice, Nitori, Marisa, Patchouli and Sanae, I think, on Sunshine Lunch, basically raising the water level with Patchy and using Nitori's and Marisa's slayer effects on them. Eirin's damage wasn't too great with Alice and that formation, and in hindsight I should have used Sanae's defensive buffs as well for added protection (I had never noticed how strong those are until recently, holy shit).

[Anonymous No.]

I'm so mad right now.

I just spent the last two hours losing to stupid MariAlice. Each time I was so unbelievably close but it was either Alice Guard into Kamikaze doll'd or Final Spark'd to death. It must have been the method I used to kill them that just didn't work right/all luck based/frustration clouding my judgement. I swear debilitation would tick off at the worst times every time, my buffs would fall off at the worst times, and/or combination of the two. I couldn't get debilitation to stick with Cirno's Res debuff/Byakuren's Res/IND debuff/IND formation plus buffed with Sanae for several turns in a row. Even with Byakuren stacked with IND accessories and IND weapon. Even now it feels like I didn't actually beat them because I lost so many times and it was probably luck that got me to beat them. For making me this frustrated I'm going to masturbate to them SO hard now.

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>>9822672
That's what I've been trying, but they keep healing to full every turn (and Kaguya dispels Beserk all the time too) and I just can't out-damage it. And if I use Sakuya's field effect then I just die before they do. Maybe I should level up a bit more, I sitll don't have anyone at level 30 yet.

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>>9822778
You do know that you can tell how many turns until a buff wears off of your characters, right? Same way you find out how long until the field effect wears off. I mapped my buttons all weird, so I couldn't really tell you which button to press, but its there.

[Anonymous No.]

im currently playing ver 2.06, any patch for 206 to 209?

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>>9823168
see
>>9818276

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>>9822412
Same reason I used a full party for 18. For me, I don't care about the difficulty thing at all, but I can't stand the idea of characters missing out on experience when they can tag along for it. It would just feel like I'm being inefficient

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>>9823201
But doing stage 18 with three separate parties actually gives you MORE experience than only doing it with one. You know that whoever is not in your active party gets half as many power points, right? That also counts for those split party sections. Not only everyone is getting base experience for fighting everything, but they're also getting bonus power points because the parties get changed so often.

[Anonymous No.]

So how can I kill Genji and Matsuba (crab girl)? I can kill one, but not the other. I thought it would be easier to take out Genji first, but Matsuba always raises evasion once Genji dies.

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>>9823351
Then try the opposite. I've always killed Matsuba first and never had any trouble at all with that fight.

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>>9822672
I just didn't care about that. I did use two parties at Eientei, since my other characters weren't level 1, but they were really low levels. It still worked for both parts

Thinking back, I think I had to grind some lower level characters for stage 18, not sure

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>>9823351

Kill Matsuba instead, fast. If you ask me that fight is a huge pain since Matsuba is harder to kill than Genji, but she'll end up killing your more fragile characters in one hit otherwise even if they're being protected by Alice and it's extremely annoying.

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>>9823769
I meant stage 18's bosses

[Saegrimr !SHIELDM.mE No.]

Are the stats you gain from a level up static or random?
Either way i'm too lazy to save scum so it probably doesn't matter.

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>>9825882
I believe they are static.

[Anonymous No.]

Are Aya's physical attacks even worth using later on? I know she's good for turn manipulation and breath reflection nonsense but she's even worse at attacking than Sanae.

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>>9827334
Sanae as Commander giving Aya her guaranteed double-strike makes her physical abilities much more fearsome.

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>>9827351

Really? I haven't put any points into Reimu's Gohei or any physical stats and even her normal attack damage is almost equal to Aya's. It's kinda sad.

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>>9827383
Don't know how far you are but you will learn to appreciate Aya's turn manipulation spells later on in the game. Almost guarantees never dying to random encounters except maybe minibosses.
Also Aya can evasion tank like a total boss.

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>>9827484

I'm at chapter 18. I do like her turn manipulation, that's for sure. Plus breath deflection has made some bosses a lot easier. I was just wondering if she does anything more than supporting though, she has trees to buff her damage but so far it's really underwhelming.

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>>9827493
Her main role is support so the damage is secondary, but she has a comet fan that lets her hit twice, so with her Last Words her physical attack will hit 4 times a turn, every turn at no cost, which is good to have in between turns of casting her evasion field spell.

[Anonymous No.]

theres no way to play this on a psp running cfw correct?

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>>9822778
>For making me this frustrated I'm going to masturbate to them SO hard now.

I do this, too.

[Deep Animu !EvaLOl..tQ No.]

Get Sanae to 100 IND, and have her cast Wind of Miracles. Work on IND on Byakuren afterwards and have her cast Hyper Trigger on herself before debuffing. Wind of miracles boosts the IND she gains from hyper trigger and thus the strength/infliction chance of her debuffs, oh and it also directly increases the effect of her debuffs in addition.

10 points in Satori's Id tree boosts variety effect level. That includes the IND benefit you gain from self-induced hypnotism (a variety effect).

Having Sanae cast Wind of miracles, byakuren cast amplifying scroll and then hyper trigger on satori, and satori cast self-induced hypnotism does some crazy stacking. Too lazy to explain but it makes her AoE debuffs also reduce even the toughest bosses' damage to 0.

Innervation/Power Down allows you to auto-battle through the endurance dungeon when used with an IND boosted Sanae's Wind of Miracles. Seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

Mokou's One Shot Punch ignores shield and her last Fist growth skill perk is ignoring shield. It's useless to get it right?

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>>9832228
That 25 point fist growth thing is a skill, not a bonus. Only that attack ignores shields; it doesn't affect your other attacks.

[Anonymous No.]

how does Satori's breath attacks work? Is it more HP means stronger attack or is it a percentage based thing?

[Anonymous No.]

I just beat those three maids and holy shit, it felt really nice when I beat the last one

How come one of them was a ton times stronger than the others? It makes no sense but oh well I guess I will grind and farm for some time I guess.... any tips, like which weapons/armor/satori skills should I get, since it took around 15-20 tries to beat those bitches

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>>9832583
Don't grind. The octopus maid is just really, REALLY hard for no reason at all.

[Anonymous No.]

So guys, who should I use for Hakugyokurou?

Reimu, Sakuya, Marisa, Sanae, Alice are all the strongest on my team. Mokou is my commander cause I don't want to actually use her until I get her 'legitly'. Nitori is right under them, and then we have the people I've never touched; Satori, Patchouli, Aya (besides the first stage).

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>>9833087
What are you talking about? You already are using her. She's one of the best commanders in the game, and you got her early on to abuse that fact.

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>>9833122
I've never used her commander spells in any battle thus far. I only got her because she's my favorite and I want to level her up.

Although you can tell me I've been using the commander passive the entire time if you really want to. You also entirely dodged my question.

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>>9833130
>You also entirely dodged my question.
I know.

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>>9833130
Why wouldn't someone bring up the passive? Having a constant chance of surviving fatal attacks is kind of a huge advantage. Regardless, you should be fine with pretty much anyone. I personally used Sakuya, Alice, Patchouli, Sanae and Marisa.

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>>9833159
I'm actually just making excuses cause this is my first play-through and I wanted to get her no matter what. Then right after I got her everyone said not to use her cause it's 'cheating'. Oh well.

I was wondering when a good time to level my other characters would be, actually. I know I'm going to want to sooner or later.

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>>9833171
Don't worry too much about it, at this point in the game level has very little significance. You should probably be at around the right level just from playing normally. As far as I can remember, the enemies on the underside of the stage are all relatively easy regardless of party, but the ones on the upper half, especially the phoenixes and angels, are usually pretty hard to deal with. Just go with your hardest hitters and you shouldn't have too much trouble.

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>>9833213
Alright, thanks. Yeah, the birds that used that magic canceler in the last stage fucked my shit up, but pretty much everything else there was a breeze.

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>>9833087
Satori, Patchouli, Aya, and then whoever you want. I find Reimu and Satori particularly good for the Netherworld because of all the things that are weak to light in there.
Just please don't ignore any member of your party. If you don't want to deal with them, just stick them in your commander slot for a few battles.

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>>9833087

>Sanae

I don´t see Sanae useful on random battles, yo should switch her with pachouli and make her use elemental magic with Marisa and use Nitori´s chases

Shit will be cash

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>>9834537

What's the default number of chases per use?

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>>9834537
You will. Sanae gets more and more useful as your party and the enemies get stronger.

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>>9834537

Sanae is very helpful if you ask me. She's an absolute life saver when things take a turn for the worse.

[Anonymous No.]

On 18 and it has taken me over an hour and still haven't gotten passed the first set of three buttons.

[Anonymous No.]

Man I'm finally at final boss and I feel like the 1st phase is the hardest due to the inability of my first party to do damage since I put Youmu and Byakuren on second party.

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>>9834582

I think only one , I´m not sure though

>>9834754

The thing here is that random battles should end quickly enough before anything bad happens

>>9834680

I agree, but that can be said about Reimu and Satori too, and you are not limited with 1 good healer, specially with Satori´s Area heal, but yeah Sanae high casting speed can save you later on, not to mention the buffs

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>>9834987

Sometimes you can't finish a random battle fast enough before something bad happens, even if you use all your strongest spells first turn, which isn't advisable because of the drain on MP and bombs it has forcing you to go back early. Not only that, but party buffs as you mentioned can make a battle a whole lot safer than before if you choose to go that route.

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>>9834987
When three mind flayers show up at the same time, let's see you think Sanae is useless

[Anonymous No.]

On stage 14 right now. God damn those elder mind flayers are such a pain in the ass. I have to decided whenever there are 2 or more if I should try to RES buff and hope or attempt to run away. Feels like there was a large jump in difficulty here

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>>9822793
>You do know that you can tell how many turns until a buff wears off of your characters, right?
Yes I do know.

Still, the buffs or debuffs would tick off at the worst possible moments like I stated. I knew well in advance when it would happen but I would go through like several turns trying to put the debuff back on them without dying. She just has ridiculously high resistances.

I'm far past that battle now but it still one of the most frustrating battles so far.

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>>9836383
I found that death sakuya works well at taking them out. They're stupid tanky otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

Finally beat chapter 18. Holy fuck never again. That was the most annoying dungeon I have ever done. Those monsters have like a 10 minute respawn or something.

[Anonymous No.]

the griiind

[Anonymous No.]

>>9837998
What grind?

[Anonymous No.]

Bump

[Anonymous No.]

I'm wondering if it's possible to beat Chloe the first time you run into her in the castle. Perhaps spamming Final Anchor, invincibility with Alice, and redirecting all damage to one character with the mineshaft and Yuugi?

[Anonymous No.]

I am at the 20th level and I have passed the first part where you have to get the two golden keys. This next area I am at seems to be a circle tied between the two doors. I noticed the eyes light up as you enter\exit doors and assumed it is some kind of puzzle to light them all up.

Is that correct or do you just have to kill all of the monsters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9841374
You are correct

[Anonymous No.]

>>9841546
What makes the panels turn off? I have 3 of the faces on, but there is one room with a face on the top right and inside the room a face on the bottom left. I don't see how I can keep them both on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9841563
They turn on if you take the door in front of them, and turn off if you take the door away from them
Straight from the wiki

This puzzle was hard as a brick for me, it took me many tries to complete it

[Anonymous No.]

>>9841608
Jesus Christ that was hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9841250
After the cutscene where she beats all other protagonists? I doubt it, since she barely takes any damage in that fight.

[Anonymous No.]

What do I do with Yukkuris?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9841869
Kill them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9841896
I've seen two and somehow both managed to escape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9841908
They run fast. Kill them.
Use Aya's first strike spells or the sonic stream formation and as many strong/multi-hit, accurate physical attacks as you can if you're going yukkuri hunting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9841916
>Yukkuri hunting
Is there some trick to it beyond dumb luck?

[None !FIreFlyLqM No.]

>>9841922
Never fought Metal Slimes or similar enemies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9841940
Metal Slimes appear all the fucking time in certain areas. I've only seen two Yukkuris during 15~ hours of gameplay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9842053
You're unlucky.
Enter an encounter and run unless it's a yukkuri. Then repeat.
That's it.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit I just beat Anastasis and suddenly the random enemies are hard as fuck out of nowhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>9842103
Consider this the final level; fight as you've never fought before.
Everything has a weakness; hit them. You WILL NOT be able to build a party that can handle ALL the different kinds of enemies; run from what you can't beat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9842103
If you ever see a Hydra make sure you try to kill it. They are very easy and drop legendary items.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9842141
Very easy if you have some kind of breath protetcion, that is
Otherwise you're fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>9842141
Don't listen to him! Trying to fight a hydra is suicide UNLESS you've got Aya with her 25-point fan skill.
Don't keep her in your party all the time for them, though. She's great for them and some other enemies, but can't do a damn thing to everything else.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, I've decided to download it but fuck Mediafire, when I'm done would it help if I host it on my server?

300gb monthly limit

[Anonymous No.]

>>9842164
Isn't the entire download like 400mb?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9842181
Around 700mb

[Anonymous No.]

>>9842121
After a while, it´s not THAT hard but that was intimidating

>>9842141
talking about that, which legendary weapon should I get first? I´m between Nitori´s (high accuracy) and Youmu´s (death effect) but I´m not sure which one...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9842328
Whichever one you get the material for.

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone had any luck getting this to run on linux?

[Anonymous No.]

I fap whenever a get a new touhou in my party

[Anonymous No.]

>>9842328
Youmu's helps with the final boss' last form, but I suggest you try fighting it first and hold off on crafting anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>ambushed by youkai
>4 cocktarice
>petrobreath petrobreath petrobreath petrobreath

[Anonymous No.]

>>9844041
I feel ya. Four cocks is rare though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9841695
Well, the reason I suggested Final Anchor is because it does unreduceable damage that depends on your level and DEX. But I'm guessing she's probably got something like 300 Divine barrier or something like that. Eh, was a stupid idea anyway.
I still want to see someone beat Chihiro with two characters only though.

Also, to anyone still wondering about the quest item reward bug, here's a nice video to show it off:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T5Ulgyg580

[Anonymous No.]

>>9844057
There are plenty of cocks on /jp/, what are you talking about?

(Someone had to make the joke.)

[Anonymous No.]

Eientei is totally kicking my butt. I think I'm just going to clear both routes with my main party before proceeding.

[Anonymous No.]

around what level should I bother with crafting? It's taking a lot of time just farming for materials

[Anonymous No.]

>>9849136
You at least have to craft accessories for some boss fights early on. Better weapons help immensely too.

Armor isn't that hot because you usually find good shit in loot/chests.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9849136
Whenever you feel like it because of your damage falling behind or some nice stats on a weapon you can make, unless you're not playing Weekend.
In that case, I suggest taking a look at the wiki and carefully planning what you want to craft. You get 10 of each character-specific material in the entire main game, I believe.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally beat the last boss. Even with Aya dying in the end of the first phase and byakuren dying in the second turn of the last phase I finally managed it. Thank you /jp/ for all the tips you gave me, they really helped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9851113
Now comes the lovely expansion! Enjoy it

[Anonymous No.]

>>9842771
Not that I know of. Instead of fucking with WINE, I have a small XP partition dedicated to satisfying my inner weeabo.

[Anonymous No.]

Having a lot of trouble on the final boss. I can't seem to get out of the first phase. I am just not doing enough damage. 10 minutes in (she just killed my entire party) and she had 2/3 her life left.

Between ennervation\soften and constant petrify (says look at glowing eye, but I don't see shit).

Using Alice, Youmu, Patch, Satori, Sanae

Everyone is roughly level 60 except you\patch who are 67

[Anonymous No.]

>>9851417

Not sure about the lovely part. I didn't continue much further into the expansion cause it was pretty boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9851890

That's kind of low level, but i guess it depends on your gear. You're gonna need youmu for phase 3 so you better revise your strategy.

[Anonymous No.]

The easy mode works in boss battles? Or is just non-boss battles that it affect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9851890
You can do it with those levels (I know I did), just trade Youmu for Marisa for the first part
Anastasis is weak against Electric, Biotopos against Water and Lithos against Fire. I found it to be easier if you just concentrate on Electric and either Fire or Water, so you can keep the land high which will help you deal more damage

>>9852099
I believe it does not work on boss battles

>9852041
I loved the expansion. Sure, the start is a little slow, but when it picks up, it's great

[Anonymous No.]

I don't understand why Anastasis summoned Chihiro 10 fucking times in a row. Is it so much to ask to get Matsuba or reptiles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9853397
Just reset the game, fighting the maids isn't worth it, especially if it's Kagami, who loves to hide in her shell whenever you try attacking her. At least she can't really do much to you either, other than her dark element mini nuke, but that becomes a non issue with a dark resistance accessory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9853509

I've been resetting the game because even if I try and kill Chihiro, I can't do it in two turns and she doesn't even need to fucking charge up anything to use her Maelstrom nuke that kills half my party and I literally have to guess when to use Reimu's barrier. That's so stupid, why do the sisters need to charge up their stuff but Chihiro gets a nuke even better than theirs that doesn't need any charge up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9853573
Forgot to add, out of the last 15 times I attempted final boss, 13 had Chihiro summoned first and fucked my attempts up due to Chihiro being fucking imbalanced. This is just becoming stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9853588
Sucks to be you.
Dequip and requip some stuff and kick the RNG out of what it's doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9853609

So I spent 10 mins doing random shit like that, visiting random early stages and killing off stuff, went to challenge again. Chihiro summoned again while Anastatis smashed my two casters to death.

Hahahaha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9853658
You just need to do one battle to change the RNG around
And by the way, can't you just kill her really fast? She's not that impossible

[Anonymous No.]

It took me 5 hours of grind to beat Alice. What in the fuck is wrong with this game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9855399
What the fuck is wrong with you. You don't need to grind on GoS, just adapt your strategies and THINK

[Anonymous No.]

>>9855399
Good strategy goes a long way. Try it next time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9855399
use a cheat engine and boost your experience gathering speed to reduce the grind to nothing then.

also play on easy mode.

[Anonymous No.]

I just want to finish the main game to start with the expansion.....

Which lvl would you recommend me for the last boss?

I´m around 63-65

[Anonymous No.]

>>9856079
I think that's enough, really

[Anonymous No.]

>>9855356

To be honest it's mostly because I don't want to waste any bombs from Mokou to deal with Chihiro. If I wasted some bombs, I could kill her in two turns, but even having 10 bombs with that accessory, my damage is pretty slow. My chars range from 58 to 65 but I've almost beaten the last phase once even having switched parties at the end of the FIRST phase.
It just seems stupid that everybody has to charge up strong nukes, even Chihiro's Maelstrom had to be charged up vs her but for some reason only chihiro doesn't have to charge up as a summon.

[Anonymous No.]

I can not beat Lithos. I fucking hate her so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9856611
Buff you RES

[Anonymous No.]

>>9856617
Should I use the res formation or avoid it because of the PHY aoe move she uses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9856636
That shouldn't be needed. Get Sanae's IND up, buff your RES and have Alice cover people/parrar. The rest should deal damage

[Anonymous No.]

>>9856684
I meant RES

[Anonymous No.]

>>9856636
You can use both Sanae and Byakuren to get your ind to huge levels, then patchy and someone else (Youmu with a Fire enchant does wonders)

[Anonymous No.]

>>9856655
Just got her down to 20%

x4 Charm
Nitori gets multi strike on party
Marisa nukes herself
Patchy gets x2 fire nuke kills alice and nitori

Next turn patch gets poison then zapper survives with 1 hp then hits herself and kill herself

Out of Mokou resses
Our of bombs on Sanae


GOD FUCKING DAMNIT

[Anonymous No.]

>>9856693 do like >>9856684 is saying, Sanae and Byakuren should solve your problems with charm and pretrify and Youmou with fire enchant really does wonders. In addition, get some acessories that proctect against charm and pretrify.

[Anonymous No.]

Use that anti-mind control formation and spread around anti-petrification gear. Use RES buff too.

[Anonymous No.]

Which stance do you prefer with Youmu.

AP or Critical

[Anonymous No.]

>>9856857
Both are pretty good, but I use the crit more than the AP one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9856848
>>9856835
>>9856655
>>9856684

Thanks for the advice. I was finally able to beat her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9856886
Grats. Now comes the hard part.

[Anonymous No.]

What is the point of Sakuya maid arts growth? I can't imagine endgame armor being worse than her level and no stats.

[Anonymous No.]

Just hit 35 hours of gameplay and now the game starts with some weird message about Twitter, refuses to save my configurations and freezes my movement if I use the Hakurei Shrine's healing circle more than two times.
Anybody had this problem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9857191
I am at about 400 hours played (I left the game open and never closed it) and I haven't had any issues.

[Anonymous No.]

>See this game
>Decide to try it out
>Bamboo Forest
>Try the obligatory UUDDLRLR
>It actually leads to Mokou

That was way too easy for a Touhou game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9857218
Now try not using her until you are supposed to actually get her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9857009

I don't know how good Perfect Maid is, but the other parts of the tree really help with her survivability. 40% HP boost is pretty decent, plus she gets more bombs, MP and attack speed. It may not be the best tree she has but if you ask me it's more useful than Murder at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9857221
Seriously. She breaks the early game in half.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9857214

I didn't even had to use applocale, open it with XP compatibility mode, anything. Now all of a sudden it's acting like I've never played it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9857221
You mean like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9857258
You can do whatever you please. For me (her raw strength and her commander power make her pretty ridiculous the first few stages of the game) I struggled a bit for the early stages without her. It just makes the bosses much less forgiving when you don't have access to a resurrection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9857258
>Now try not using her
>Uses ONLY her

Yes, exactly like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9857276
I have no idea who you are quoting, but tell him to knock it off. I want to see how far he can get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9857289
With just Mokou?

I doubt you could get pass Meiling

[Anonymous No.]

>>9857297
We shall see, courtesy of that good poster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9857232
I've had this problem twice now, I don't know what causes it, but the only solution I've found is to backup your save somewhere, delete your GoS folder, re-extract your .rar files to make a new GoS folder and put the save in there

>>9857009
>Sakuya with Armor of Creation (gotten from a chest in the last stage of the game)
324 PDEF
>Sakuya at lv84 with max Maid Arts tree
308 PDEF

I guess a lv99 Sakuya might have more PDEF naked than with that armor, but by then you should have some synthesis-only armors that have much more PDEF
So yeah, not much point in maxing it, unless you don't have any spare armor

[Anonymous No.]

>>9857297
You were right. All those 0s really added up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9857332
Didn't expect her to hit for 0's.

I stand corrected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9857326

Thanks, now the game is running as it should.

[Anonymous No.]

Just got out of a 3500 XP Harpy encounter in forest of magic 2.
I was about to get overwhelmed, but a Love Typhoon saved me.
Also, was ambushed by a Marisa Yukkuri, she dealt 2 dmg to Alice and then ran. Oh well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9857332
Oh, someone's doing this again?
The first time someone did this was hilarious. Every time the guy killed a boss, everyone went "well the next one's gonna slaughter you!" I forget how far he got.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9856079
I'm that guy and I just finished the main game and HOLY SHIT that was ridiculous, I just barely beat the last form because Youme is OP as fuck on that battle and everyone were dead/petrified

It felt really good though, also leaf shield is god tier

[Anonymous No.]

Guy who faps every time he gets a new party member here. The expansion with Yuugi isn't available in english yet right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9859584
>Prepatched game with the expansion and translation can be found here:
>http://www.mediafire.com/?a8c1by6btaid7
If your game is version 2+, you already have it.

[Anonymous No.]

does sakuya illusion doll 1,2 and 3 growth ability increase her chance to double strike with great sword? or illusion doll 123 just increase her chance to got maximum hit with random hit ability?

[Anonymous No.]

So I'm using Youmu with Kusanagi, but I found out that she crits much more when I had put points in her Katana tree than when I put points in her Sword tree. Are the weapon specific skills the only thing you don't get when you put points into weapon trees that are not the same as your equipped weapon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9861553
Yes, if you put points into Katana, you'll only get the bonus if you have a Katana equipped and so on

[Anonymous No.]

So apparently Lithos during the 1st phase of the final boss is not a reptile, even though there's the reptile symbol on her. That explains why my Mokou with Turtlesmasher does equal damage to Lithos and Biotopes.

[Anonymous No.]

>The file you attempted to download is an archive that is part of a set of archives. MediaFire does not support unlimited downloads of split archives and the limit for this file has been reached. MediaFire understands the need for users to transfer very large or split archives, up to 10GB per file, and we offer this service starting at $1.50 per month.

[Anonymous No.]

Trying to get someone to download this game, now there's this error. Goddamn Mediafire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9860508
I've asked this before, too, and never got an answer.
*coughs emphatically*

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking Eientei is breaking my balls. I can't be arsed to level up my entire party to 23.

Doesn't help that you can't switch equipment once you're inside.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9864842
Man the FUCK up dude. It's only going to get harder and more irritating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9864855
Fine.

[Anonymous No.]

anyone kind enough to re-upload? in better set of course...

[Anonymous No.]

How about I make a torrent on Nyaa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9864987
>>9865025
Well here it is anyway nyaa.eu/?page=torrentinfo&tid=361555

Hope I didn't fuck up too bad or anything.

[Anonymous No.]

Where's the silver chest in stage 15 (forest of magic II)? I'm lugging around this silver key and I've been all over the stage multiple times and cant find the damn box. Just what room its in would suffice.

Also holy shit byakuren gets crazy when you start stacking ind equipment on her and buffing her own ind before buffing everyone else. I was hitting genji for like 6k with youmu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9861880
Does that mean those people who were suggesting to put points in the snake tree for the mp on hit passive for sanae then equiping her with an axe were wrong? I havent tried it, personally, because my sanae never runs out of mp, but does it still apply? or is it only stat bonuses that dont work, and not random passives like hitting twice or mp suction?

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any cheat engine tables or anything for the game?

I'm trying to give myself max character-specific crafting items and 25k youkai slain, but neither is working with a simple memory search.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9863491
*Coughs more emphatically*

[Anonymous No.]

>>9867130

if it helps, I havent noticed much of a difference on the sword hits. I have noticed that if she crits she seems to double attack more often, though. I couldnt tell you for sure though, since I dont use that skill tree much at all.

[Anonymous No.]

Are the descriptions for exp gain wrong?

Lithos is my commander here and is using the Rabbit's Paw accessory. The Lithos commander bonus is listed as +2% exp. The rabbit paw is listed as +1%. No Byakuren last word bonus or anything else.

Simple math shows 2,721 / 2,408 = 113% experience. Is the rabbit paw actually giving +10% experience, not 1?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9867771
Or not? What the hell?

[Anonymous No.]

Just tested, Youmu's stance growth trees give bonus independently if you are using that stance or not. So you could be using Manussya skills with a full Asura stance and still receive the bonus, and so on.

Weapon Trees still require you to equip that weapon, though. Just tested, had alice with a kusanagi and growth in her greave trees, removed the growth and it had no effect on her stats, but doing the same thing with greaves equipped did change her stats around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9865073
>Nyaa
is it prepatched? or still raw?

[Anonymous No.]

So I have the original version sitting here. Should I man up and player that (+expansion) or get this?

[Anonymous No.]

Does Easy Mode work for Endurance Dungeon?

[Anonymous No.]

Man, stage 18 hits again. I completely lost my motivation here yet another time. I wish it wasn't so long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9868631
Can you read? Prepatched with translation, yes. Same version as in OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9868699
expansion doesn't have any real impact on the maingame, just have it installed

[Anonymous No.]

New patch, fixes lots of typos and errors in names.
http://www.mediafire.com/?gcdk6c7cqkk64j4

[Anonymous No.]

Finally beat it because both Sakuya and Youmu are beasts. Holy shit at Youmu critting for 20k and Sakuya doing like 30k on her own during Private Square

[Anonymous No.]

New pre-patched link the translator/patcher put up, with the latest patch applied:
http://www.4shared.com/folder/WFoQul_T/GoS.html

Should use this in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

When I unlock the Super Aja recipes? I already killed the terminator a bunch of times and it's starting to get boring killing him knowing that I can't do nothing with the material he drops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9872398
I think it's either 10.000 or 15.000 exterminated youkai

[Anonymous No.]

Beating Sanae in the expansion without a mage character must be the most annoying thing ever. Can you even silence her? I tried with Mokou having 100 IND and not a single time in like 30 hits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9873542
Screw silence. Just beat the shit out of her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9873563
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>9872398
Beat the last second stage

[Anonymous No.]

>>9873563

I can't kill her in one turn and she summons those annoying 100% deflect chars that my only dps is Cirno and Lithos' weak magic attacks.
But just as I say that Lithos somehow Instant Death'ed the summon lol.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Cirno so shitty? I mean, is she useful for anything else than freezing and instant death random enemies?

On that matter, which character from the expansion is better for crafting first? I´m thinking Remilia but then again I don´t have Yuugi yet

[Anonymous No.]

What are some good parties for Tewi and Reisen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9874070
Reisen, no question. Then Yuugi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9874070

>putting "Cirno" and "Yuugi" in the same post

You're just asking for trouble there, buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9877370
For Tewi, have Sanae buff your Evasion, if you have byakuren, lower her accuracy. The beat her normally (Marisa, Patchy and Nitori/Satori spamming fire is good)
For Reisen, give Sakuya the sword that has slayer on Beasts and let the rape begin.

[Anonymous No.]

Is the full game really in that mediafire folder?

I just see the OST and Sprites.

[Anonymous No.]

Also, when you beat a character, do you gain them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9877546
The full game has moved to http://www.4shared.com/folder/WFoQul_T/GoS.html

Mediafire no longer supports split archives after a certain amount of downloads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9877572
I need an account to download these, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9877605
Making a 4shared account takes like 30 seconds. Unless there is a way to upload split archives to Mediafire without it recognizing split archives, maybe renaming before uploading/after uploading or uploading from multiple accounts might work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9877537
I used my Sunflower Seeds on something else.

I can easily beat Tewi with Aya's one bomb commander skill. Reisen on the other hand completely annihilates me before I can deal any damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9878012
Go and farm them, then

[Anonymous No.]

>>9878128
Enemies actually drop that shit? Tell me more. Must be an incredibly rare drop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9878149
They drop like candy in the first half of the sun garden.

[Anonymous No.]

What does the writing in Aya's death frame say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9877380

I found Remilia more useful, she is untouchable, seriously, since I gave her the untouchable googles III, I don´t remember a melee attack hit her at all and has a good damage output

Why is Reisen that good? I haven´t used her that much and I find Satori more useful inflicting status effects

[Anonymous No.]

>>9879417
Reisen's slayers do HUGE damage.
Seriously, random encounters are a joke if you have Mokou use Tsuki no Iwasaka's Curse and her use Metaphyiscal Mind. Hits everything for 10~11k without even using reisen's bombs
In boss fights, she can hit way over 30k and still debuff

[Anonymous No.]

Do Reisen's slayer effects all stack? Like for both variety/permanent status effects and then maybe even for monster types with her growth tree and then also for her weapon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9879417
If Reisen can land both regular slayer AND status slayer on the enemy, the damage can get ridiculously high. For a good part of the post-game my strat was to land poison arts with satori then follow up with metaphysical mind.

[Anonymous No.]

So apparently, if you kill an enemy with poison, they will never drop an item. Found this by accident against Rumia, who is set to drop an Orichalcum Shard 100% of the time, but died to a random toxic I landed on her and didn't drop anything.

Speaking of Rumia, wow, is she susceptible to every kind of debuff and status effect in the game? I should try checking how high Reisen's damage can go against her.

[Anonymous No.]

Bump

[Saegrimr !SHIELDM.mE No.]

>>9880807
Its nice when bosses are vulnerable to statuses, but like most RPGs this one tends to make most of them immune.

Its such a waste to use status effects on normal enemies.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worth setting up chasers with Nitori? They don't seem to do much damage at all.

[Anonymous No.]

I assumed the Suika weapon meant to be a big watermelon or something like that

It was a pleasant surprise

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a partial translation for DoD? Finally beat the three stooges, that fucking tower man.

[Anonymous No.]

Where are the silver keys in the netherworld? I got one but I don't know where the other one is at. There's a silver chest in the netherworld, not in the cloud area..

[Anonymous No.]

>>9884259
>Its such a waste to use status effects on normal enemies.
why? Hell, I even did that in Paper Mario (they were pretty broken there tho)
>>9884309
she's best paired with mages. Chaser damage (and everything else she has) is based on her PATK. But yeah, at some point in the game she's better off sniping enemies weak to her guns

[Anonymous No.]

Jesus fuck, I finally beat both Tewi and Reisen.

[Saegrimr !SHIELDM.mE No.]

>>9886594
I just don't really see the point on wasting a character's turn to blind/poison/whatever them, when a normal attack would probably just kill them or at least make the next attack kill them.

I mean sure, if it takes you 5 turns or so to kill it anyway, but its rare to find normal trash mobs that take that long to kill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9887351
I'm at the expansion, and I must say that Enervation and Sunshine helped me a lot!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9887871
>>9887351
my favorite was Acid Rain. Somewhere in the lategame the enemies become too resistant to permanents for my taste

[Anonymous No.]

>>9887351
>its rare to find normal trash mobs that take that long to kill.
Where are you at, stage 3 ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9887351
Out of curiosity,have you even played this game?

[Anonymous No.]

Okay. I'm fed up with this fucking boss.
Somebody please give me a foolproof plan to defeat the first final boss (sisters+goddess).
I don't want to try anymore. I want to move on and I'm too stupid to do it by myself.
I have a Mokou with Turtlesmasher that can deal 5000+ unbuffed damage to Lithos and Bio with Fujiyama Volcano. Aya can dodgetank on the first phase too.
Aside from that, I want levels, skills to use, party members and formation.
Please. I don't know how many hours I've been stuck here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9888934
foolproof plan? So yeah... read my rant if you like >>8771589
>party
I used exclusively magic for the first phase and saved Mokou for the remaining phases. Aya was also needed in the next phase. I used Alice, Reimu, Satori (for occasional dark spells to fill up land) and Marisa&Patche in the first phase. Nitori commander, but can honestly be anyone.
>items
You don't need items that much for dealing magical damage. Whether you need 2 or 3 turns more doesn't make a difference here if you ask me. It does in the other phases.
>levels
everywhere from 60 to 70 should be alright, that's where most remaining spells are learned.
>formations
Poison Shield! You could try Hinotori Skydance if you feel gutsy.
That is for the first phase. The other two need a strong offense. I used the Tenshi formation (atk/def +, speed -) in combination with Aya commander bomb and Sakuya's Private Square. Most people use Youmu with her slaying Katana, but I say that you should consider giving someone in the second party a Kusanagi. Or use both like, I did!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9888934
>foolproof
Nope.

Party one is Aya, Mokou, Sakuya, Marisa, and Satori. Reimu is commander. Use Skydance; Aya in why the middle, Mokou/Sakuya in front, Satori/Marisa in back. Give Aya dodge gear, an anti-thunder or mystic shield (with an accessory to block whatever one the shield doesn't) and bombs/MP through power points, Sakuya a Mambele, 20ish points in daggers, 20 (NOT 25) in time, and get her plenty of MP. Mokou gets a turtlesmasher, plenty of bombs, and damage points. Marisa gets elemental damage points and spell damage gear, and all her SINGLE TARGET elemental spells. Satori gets whatever for gear and Starlight Barrier, Leaf Shield, Area Heal, Clearance, the basic single-target electric spell (not Mad Thunder,) and something else; Medora is very strong, if you can be bothered to get it.

On the first turn, Aya puts up her dodge field, and Satori casts starlight barrier. That SHOULD keep you safe from Anastasis, Biotopos, and the adds. Some stuff will still get through, but it's nothing Satori can't heal or block with leaf shield.
For offense, Sakuya use dual raid (or jack the ripper if you've got 25 points in her first tree) on Anastasis, Mokou hits Biotopos and Lithos with volcanos, and Marisa hits the weakness of whoever's up. This is a long fight; don't waste Mokou or Sakuya's bombs on sisters they can't hit the weakness of. Satori can hit the boss too, but she's really more for keeping the party safe; prioritize that over a little more damage.
When Lithos comes out, have Aya use illutsonary dominance and Sakuya private square. Lithos will still probably get a hit in (if she enervates you, don't waste bombs/mp until it wears off) but this will keep her from wrecking you with a spellcard. When it wears off, don't forget to put your dodge field back up with Aya.
restart, screw with the RNG (rearrange equipment/power, do slightly different stuff on turn one like use some crusher skills with Mokou, etc) and hope for the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9889154

*The rub here is the adds; if you get a bad lot and one of the maids or the turtle guy shows up, you're probably fucked. The good news is that you only need to get lucky twice; if something bad comes out in the first two turns, restart, screw with the RNG (rearrange equipment/power, do slightly different stuff on turn one like use some crusher skills with Mokou, etc) and hope for the best.

When stage two comes around, just unload on the boss. She's got no weakness, so just throw everything you've got at her. On the second turn, do the private square/illusionary dominance trick to delay their chant. By the time your party's spent, the boss should be mostly dead. Now set up Aya's dodge field and call in the second team.

[Anonymous No.]

The second team is Alice, Sanae, Byakuren, Patchy, and Youmu, with Nitori as commander. Use poison shield, with Alice in the tank spot. Alice gets the best shield you can find, and anti-petrification and mystic gear. Sanae gets whatever and her RES buff, M. Defense buff, buff-boosting buff, a rez, and an area heal (lucky omujiki should be fine; low cooldown) and a regular heal. Byakuren gets induction gear and 25 points in scrolls, and her all-up scroll buff, dark sword, induction buff, defense debuff, dark sphere, and goddess breath. Patchy gets damage stuff, void spirit, her single target spells, and silent selene. Youmu gets a bunch of bombs, damage stuff, the Kusanagi or her foreign god slaying katana, manussya stance, bold advance, pascal slash, crescent slash, slash of the present, and whatever else you want. Get Nitori bombs too; if you can somehow get her 9, that would be excellent, but don't prioritize her over Youmu and Mokou for bomb gear. Also also, try to get everyone in the second party something that defense against the four main elements, like ribbons and dragon stuff.

Before Youmu wrecks what's left of the second phase, buff up. Have Byakuren buff her induction before using the scroll buff, then buff Youmu, and Sanae buffs your RES and magic defense, in that order. Youmu buffs herself, obviously. Alice uses hourai doll; always have this up, or the boss WILL Minus someone else at the worst possible time.

The second phase shouldn't be doing much in the meantime. You'll have plenty of time for Youmu to kill it before they finish their chant.

[Anonymous No.]

I've gone through the same thing you did. I leveled up to around 65, switched a character around and completely dominated it, beating 3rd phase in like 4 turns lol.

If you can't get Satori's Starlight Barrier, replace her with Reimu or make sure Reimu is there. She can block Lithos and Anastasis' bomb attacks and provide 0 cooldown healing. Keep Aya and Mokou for the first phase, and consider between Marisa, Pachy and Satori for the remaining two slots (I used Marisa Pachy for their delicious magic damage and occasional doublecasts, Satori's commander reflect can help.) You can keep Pachy in the first party and consider putting Sakuya on the 2nd party along with Youmu and give them both Dark Sword to completely tear the final phase a new one. (My Sakuya had Kusanagi and did 30k damage during Private Square) Just make sure Pachy helps reset land during the 2nd phase.

The reason for switching Sakuya to the 2nd phase is because for me, the 3rd phase was the hardest and having Sakuya to burst her down was extremely helpful. Not only that, but Patchouli/Marisa can do a lot of damage abusing elemental weaknesses while Patchouli hits twice because of Land Power. Give Patchouli all the single target High elemental attacks with Void Element for the 2nd phase.

Kill the mobs/Wait until you only get reptiles or Matsuba, and then proceed to completely ignore them. Kill the turtle though.

Consider crafting the 5+ bomb accessory for Mokou

[Anonymous No.]

Forgot about this: be absolutely sure that Patchy uses void spirit in phase two. Don't and you die.

All right...the third phase is hard. A lot can go wrong, a lot WILL go wrong, and you really need to have a feel of when to use what. I can't walk you through this entirely; a lot of it's going to be your own judgement.

Have Youmu use crescent (or slash of the present if you've got enough bombs) while Byakuren debuffs the boss's defense, then start unloading the pascals. Byakuren should also use dark sphere and debuff to the bosses magic; this will really cut the incoming pain. Patchy tries her best to keep the land close to neutral; if it ever gets to high, void spirit it down. Sanae heals, Alice shields (have her put up a shield field when Aya's dodge field wears off, IF you get an opening to do so.)
If things look bad, use little legion or Nitori's three-bomb commander spell. I can't really tell you when to do this; when he boss charges up is a good time, but beyond that, it's all you.
At some point the buffs are going to start wearing off. Get these up fast; the boss will DEMOLISH you fast without them. Prioritize that magic debuff and your RES, M.Defense, and scroll buffs over other things; Youmu loses dark, don't use any bombs until she gets it back.

[Anonymous No.]

FINALLY, the third phase can use vortex. This is a toss-up; the boss has 0 induction, so your RES buff will PROBABLY keep you safe, especially if Sanae had an induction and scroll buff when she cast it, and the boss has so many different attacks that it PROBABLY won't use it much, but...it's still going to make you tense as fuck when you see that web of blue lines flash across the screen. Just pray.
The final boss is also almost certainly going to kill someone at some point. Rez them with Sanae and buff them up quickly; don't let them stay dead, everyone is important in this battle. Don't try to go for broke or anything; Youmu's the only one that can hurt the boss much anyway.

...that's it. Your heart will be pounding in the final phase, but with this strategy and your experience with the game, you can beat it. If you try all this and still keep dying...come back here, but not before analyzing WHY you lost.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh god I cannot format worth a damn.

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks a lot, man.
There are so many variables that I just can't be bothered.
Will try. Though I suppose some Satori grinding is in order. I have no Poison Shield, I have no barriers, no heal... I have no useful spells for her at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9889706
If you wish, you can use this setup, I barely used Satori, and she was a very low level, but this worked wonders.

First party, have Alice, Nitori, Sanae, Marisa and Patchy on Hitonori Skydance, with Satori as commander
Equip damage gear on your casters, maybe something on Nitori (you'll want to save most to the other characters, though) and protection on Alice. Use her parrar on Marisa/Patchy every turn, except when a boss uses bomb reload, then use Little Legion and prepare Sanae to help Alice.
Against Anastasis, use Satori's commander 1 bomb every turn, 33% deflect is amazing. Choose between Fire or Water for both Biotopos and Lithos, so you help patchy with the land gauge.

This should be sufficient to get you through the first two stages, but before killing the sisters on the second stage, switch parties

For the second party, I used Hakurei Type, but I guess you could find a better one, I had Mokou, Sakuya, Reimu, Youmu and Byakuren, with Aya as the commander. Have Byakuren buff up Youmu and Sakuya with Dark Sword and PATK up, reimu barriers/heals, Sakuya stops time if the boss uses bomb reload, Mokou sets up Ressurrection and just helps with the damage

This was my setup, I hope it helps

[Anonymous No.]

>>9890139

Problem with this setup is that you need to use Alice and her Little Legion for any bombs Lithos and Anastasis might use. I think Lithos ignores gear resistance, so you are going to have to heal that petrify right away. Also make sure Sanae has Res buff so you don't get enervated to death.

There's a reason why people use Nitori as a commander and Mokou for the first party, because Mokou can deal 5k per turn to Lithos and Biotopes with Turtlesmasher on, and Nitori's 2 Bomb commander ability works wonders during 3rd phase. Also, Nitori's chasers suck because they will prevent Marisa and Patchouli from doublecasting.

[Anonymous No.]

i just finished the 3 maids and my avrg party lvl are 50-55 am i to underleveled for last boss?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9892636
You still have to fight each of the goddesses first and you'll get like 10-20 levels in the last 3 stages, you're fine.

[Anonymous No.]

Made a new thread at >>9893989.

[Anonymous No.]

So I got to about stage 11 of this game before the weekend version came out. I had the most recent version from earlier this year - are my saves compatible with the new version? Those new item drop rates and item collection rules are appetizing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9894052

Yes, your old saves will work.