/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:30:25 2012 No.9807928 [Reply] [Original]

Why is it a popular choice for Western NEETs to become attached and obsessed with Japanese culture specifically? There are many countries with a rich cultural background like Korea, Russia, India and even places like England so why aren't there otakus that spend hours over-analysing and discussing these places?

I mean, what's so good about Japan? There are many other places that produce really great idiosyncratic and flamboyant artwork (including music, comics and other soft media). I just don't get it.

Please respond.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:31:40 2012 No.9807930 Call me when corea, Russia and India start producing quality entertainment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:33:13 2012 No.9807933 Do they have cute 2D girls?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:33:13 2012 No.9807934 that poor cat

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:33:28 2012 No.9807935 >>9807928 Because pantyshots

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:33:43 2012 No.9807936 Only the Japanese entertainment industry caters to our brand of loser.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:33:59 2012 No.9807937 >western Please don't use this term. Only West Europe is wester, everything else is wannab western.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:33:59 2012 No.9807938 >Russia you must be joking. the only thing which comes from russia is the mail order brides.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:39:58 2012 No.9807946 It's all about the aesthetic, accessibility, and fan-made content for me. If it isn't 2D and cute and/or lewd, I have no desire to spend my time on it.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:41:58 2012 No.9807949

>>9807938
Russia is a really interesting place and slav culture is funny as hell. Russian pop music is pretty amazing too.

>>9807934
I know, right? It's owner must've done something pretty bad because in my experience it's almost impossible to make a cat cry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:42:43 2012 No.9807951 >>9807949 >>9807934 i fucked it thats why its crying. peace.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:44:28 2012 No.9807956 >>9807930 Um Korean pop music is more popular worldwide than Japanese which is hard to export. Korea has a rich history, a booming professional gaming industry and the people living there a basically just Japanese guys.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:45:43 2012 No.9807958 [DELETED]

>>9807949
>Russia is a really interesting place
It's not.
>slav culture is funny as hell
It's depressing as HELL.
>Russian pop music is pretty amazing too.
It sucks balls.

Take off your russophile goggles. Russia is a fucking shithole which makes nothing worthwhile.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:46:58 2012 No.9807961 west now has mlp.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:47:13 2012 No.9807963 >>9807949 >slav culture Squatting?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:48:30 2012 No.9807964 del

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:49:45 2012 No.9807966
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Slavaboo otaku here, I always wear my telnyashka when around town. I greet people in ukrainian I learned from the STALKER games and practice Olympic weightlifting in my spare time.

I hope someday to move to Russia and become an animator of superior Russian animation, find my ideal Russian wife (pic related) and settle down in the scenic countryside to await my death by cirrhosis of the liver.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:50:37 2012 No.9807968 >>9807958 pls dont bully

>>	sage Mon Oct 1 06:51:22 2012 No.9807969 How dare you write word KOREA in thread KOREA shit people shit culture!!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:51:52 2012 No.9807971 >>9807969 you wrote Korea too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:55:53 2012 No.9807974 Typical Russian anime: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcUqOFffRZU&feature=related

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 06:57:39 2012 No.9807977 >>9807956 >the people living there a basically just Japanese guys. You just insulted so many people anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:02:08 2012 No.9807982 >India There is always one smelly Indian on /jp/ that posts pro-Indian garbage.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:05:26 2012 No.9807988 >>9807974 It's sad how surprised I am that someone actually cares about those.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:06:27 2012 No.9807990 >>9807956 fuck off koreaboo

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:06:56 2012 No.9807992

>>9807928
>Why is it a popular choice for Western NEETs to become attached and obsessed with Japanese culture specifically?

Japan is one of the world's largest cultural exporters behind America.

It's therefore not surprising that a lot of people become obsessed with Japanese pop culture. I'd imagine that the global numbers obsessed with American pop culture are even higher.

>there are many countries with a rich cultural background like Korea, Russia, India and even places like England

Are you being serious here?

It's not a matter of "rich cultural background," it's the matter of having a massive entertainment industry and the resources to export it worldwide.

Bollywood may be huge, but the production values are laughable by the standards of the developed world, so its market ends at India's borders.

Korea is making a good attempt at penetrating overseas markets with its entertainment. We'll see how that goes. (But remember, they're a fraction of Japan's population and GDP.)

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:07:41 2012 No.9807993

Take a time and think about it OP. Everyone has their own reasons for becoming NEETs. It may be because they want to spend more time on their hobbies, take it easy, social anxiety (more on hiki side), excessively introverted, or it just fits their lifestyle etc.

Imo, the Japanese culture doesn't have a great part of correlation to the people choosing to become neets. It may merely be that in dwelving so much in the Japanese culture, we inevitably came to discover and realize that another option of living diverse from normality is existent, which is the NEETdom.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:09:41 2012 No.9807998 >>9807956 >Um >professional gaming industry You're literally gay

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:10:26 2012 No.9807999 >>9807998 its funny because korean dogs are shit at everything but starcrap.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:11:26 2012 No.9808001 >>9807998 no he's not, he's figuratively gay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:30:37 2012 No.9808047 I know people that think NEET is a term from japan

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:31:52 2012 No.9808049 You could say the same for US media Thing is, Japan and the US produce the majority of good entertainment in the world,it's only logical that they both dominate everywhere in todays global economy

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:32:53 2012 No.9808052

I don't know I always thought it was because anime (the ones that air late at night) appeal to... for a lack of a better term, 'traditionalists'. The depictions of females is highly unrealistic and the protagonists either appeal to a male's insecurity or their overwhelming desire to be cool.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:36:54 2012 No.9808057 >>9807928 Porn. You start being fascinated by the possibilities Hentai offers. The you start reading mangas, following that you watch animes and then it's just a landslide until you're learing japanese and planning oversea trips.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:37:09 2012 No.9808059 Japan produces the most media outside of the United States. That's probably why.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:40:09 2012 No.9808070 >>9807998 How can I be gay when I'm having a steamy sexual affair with you're mom.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:42:10 2012 No.9808073 >>9807956 Both jpop and kpop suck and the only games that korea makes are shitty grindfest mmos.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:44:09 2012 No.9808078 >>9807956 > a booming professional gaming industry Yeah, great for the few guys who get paid to play video games. I don't see why anyone else should care though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:46:54 2012 No.9808085 >>9808052 > appeal to a male's insecurity or their overwhelming desire to be cool. I want to be Spike Spiegel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:47:54 2012 No.9808087 Korean media consists of Starcraft tournaments. Russian media consists of Stalker and being retarded with vehicles. Indian media consists of tech support and consuming western media.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 07:59:11 2012 No.9808110 >>9807956 >Um Korean pop music is more popular worldwide than Japanese This again. I'll probably never understand why Koreans are deluding themselves so much about this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:00:07 2012 No.9808116 It's a Korean song topping charts in the West.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:05:09 2012 No.9808128 >>9808110 do you honestly think j-pop is more popular than k-pop? really?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:05:39 2012 No.9808126 the answer is japanese pornography, specifically hentai manga, and more specifically lolicon hentai manga

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:07:39 2012 No.9808130 gangam style is the start of kpop being big in the west

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:11:54 2012 No.9808143 File: 73 KB, 645x773, 1328488705724.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9807966 Why wait though? You can be an alchy anywhere, at any time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:11:54 2012 No.9808146 >>9808130 ever heard of gg baby song?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:16:39 2012 No.9808152 When was the last time Japan had a number one hit in the UK charts? http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9756000/9756072.stm

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:22:26 2012 No.9808161 >>9808130 Gee was really popular before the shit meme song even was out. The only reason people even watched that video (Other than because of viraling) was because 4Minute Hyuna and Big Bang Daesung were in it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:26:55 2012 No.9808170 >>9808161 Gee is also the reason SNSD is the most profitable girl group in Korea and maybe the second in Asia after AKB (MoMu is shit these days)

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:27:10 2012 No.9808177

>>9808130
>the start
Kpop has been big for years. SNSD? 2NE1? Such groups are MASSIVE, not just in the West but in surrounding countries like Japan and China.

Just because people have watched Gangnam shit for the novelty / popularity value doesn't mean it's going to affect the popularity of k-pop in any significant way. I mean, has Romanian music become popular because the song Dragostea din tei became a meme in 'Numa Numa'? Could any of you even name the band that made that song?

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:33:25 2012 No.9808188

>>9808177
This Psy is a fat sack of shit and I would rather have people who try hard (idols in Korea are basically slaves) espcially people from the big 3 (SM, JYP, and YG) than some guy who got lucky by chance.

The 9 angels desrve more praise these days anyway!(I guess 2ne1 and Wonder Girls too since they are trying to break into the American market as well)

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Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:40:01 2012 No.9808200

>>9808188
>>9808177
Call me back when korean music starts being an international sensation, because, no matter how much your people market it to the west it just doesn't sell.
I'm sorry to break it to you, gangam style was an exception not the rule, it got popular in the west because teens all aroun yurop and americastan found it LOLSORANDUMB A GUY WAVES HIS DICK IN ELEVATOR, DUDE WITH GLASSES RAPS ON TOILET SEAT AND SCREAMS AT ASS XDDDDDDD.
An exception, not the rule, once again, call me when your SNADSFSFS appear on Fox News or some other major anchor, as for now, it's popular only among a select few koreaboos, at least jpop is made by japanese about japanese and for japanese, while doing a pretty good job in that regard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:41:45 2012 No.9808202 >>9808177 >Kpop has been big for years. Nigga, please, Gangnam Style is literally the first Korean song anyone in the western world has ever heard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:44:33 2012 No.9808206 >>9808200 Nobody said Psy was anything special I will only care when SNSD makes it big. >>9808202 GG is a meme don't treat it as a real song

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:46:17 2012 No.9808209

Because Japan is the only place besides USA that produces games worth playing or cartoons worth watching. Because they make interesting products, they begin to idolize the country, which leads to them caring at all about its culture.

The only thing Korea exports is knockoffs of Japanese games and USAn music, thus no one gives a flip about Korean culture. /India/ - Tech Support Culture. Russia: Fucking commies who make bizarre cartoons. England: Couldn't make a decent non-comedy to save their queen.

The only other country worth anything art wise is France and they're a bunch of pretentious assholes and there's nothing really interesting about their culture. They seem like they could become new Japan. Not sure how they feel about lolis though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:46:17 2012 No.9808210 >>9808206 Maybe south east asia yes, but the west? K-pop has never been big over here, most americans/yuropeans don't know what that is at all, you can't claim that "it's really big in the west".

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:47:32 2012 No.9808211 >>9808210 Also, yes, i think i misread yourr post a bit there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:48:17 2012 No.9808212 This is what real Korean music sounds like Original http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYhXo1sQPLU Remake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmPPX2OWz90 Not that Psy shit

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:49:17 2012 No.9808214

so much [citation needed] going on in this thread.

From a purely objective point of view of someone who actually listens to music K-pop is better produced, sexier and more modern than j-pop which is more akin to childrens songs or trashy europop from the late 90s.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:49:32 2012 No.9808215 >>9808212 Such disgusting language. Like barking dog.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:50:17 2012 No.9808216 >>9808210 Most western people (Or should I say American) don't listen to non American music unless it's culturally relevant (aka forced) like Spanish and French. >>9808211 It's okay we all do it sometimes~

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:50:32 2012 No.9808217

The song was literally on the radio a few minutes ago.

What that being said, Jpop has gotten too generic while kpop has some crazy shit like the Big Bang crew and 2ne1. Most of the suff worth listening is only produced by yg, others are tryhard pretty boy garbage.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:50:47 2012 No.9808219 >>9808214 >From a purely objective point of view of someone who actually listens to music K-pop isn't music, the only thing it has going for itself is that it's japaneesey/chineesey without being truly japanese/chinese.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:52:18 2012 No.9808220

>>9807928
really? if theres ANY country less full of raceists than japan that has produced ANYTHING like Touhou Project, Project Diva, or even decent fan fiction with accompanying fappable artwork and music and audio CDs then i would VERY much like to hear about it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:52:18 2012 No.9808221 >>9808219 its still superior to j-pop.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:52:48 2012 No.9808222

>>9808214
I listen to k-pop too but I hate the slut phase it going through Lee Hyori and After School (I like their songs though) are the worst.

Most Japanese girls are ugly to me but they have nice modest clothing and sing happy warm songs instead of letting America poison them.

>>9808215
It cannot be helped~

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:54:48 2012 No.9808224 >>9808222 I'm not talking about the girls being sexy. K-pop actually sounds like its something that was produced in the year of our lord 2012.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:54:48 2012 No.9808225 Boris is better than any Korean music.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:54:48 2012 No.9808226 >>9808214 so wheres the K-anime, and K-games, and K-visual novels? mmm?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:55:05 2012 No.9808228 >>9808222 wtf is wrong with sex? if i had my way they would all sing naked, fucking brainwashed into wearing clothing by the man anyway so we cant have sex with them

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:55:05 2012 No.9808229 >>9808221 Both are shit, the only good thing, besides few exceptions, coming out of modern japan is the otaku (manga, anime, light novels, visual novels etc.) wave, everything else is bland and repetitive.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:55:50 2012 No.9808227

>>9808217
YG are the most tryhard of them all BIGBAND (Especially GD) are all fake bad boys that can barely rap (Daesung is the most talented) and 2ne1's saving grace is Park Bom (CL is shit, Minzy is ugly, Dara is weird). YG won't last after BB enters the military service and eventually break up and my precious SM will rule supreme.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:56:05 2012 No.9808233 >>9808227 *BIGBANG >>9808228 Nothing wrong with sex BUT their is something wrong with not being modest (Males and Females should be modest)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:56:20 2012 No.9808231 >>9807956 > Korean pop music lel Psy and k-idols >professional gaming industry Shit f2p grind mmorpg that will take your wallet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:56:20 2012 No.9808232 >>9808226 get your autism levels checked, child. I'm talking about the music

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:57:05 2012 No.9808234 >>9808232 oh god this board is a fucking mess

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:58:50 2012 No.9808237

>>9808229
>the only good thing, besides few exceptions, coming out of modern japan is the otaku (manga, anime, light novels, visual novels etc.) wave, everything else is bland and repetitive.
A fair amount of manga, anime, light novels, and visual novels are bland and repetitive as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 08:59:05 2012 No.9808240 >>9808232 Both kpop and jpop are shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:02:50 2012 No.9808245 >>9808224 It just sounds like stuff black people listen to if you want that it's easy to find. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZoerFhvJGU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8ILR2fvJBs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5e206kygzw

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:05:05 2012 No.9808251 >>9808245 Do you even music, dork? "Stuff black people listen to". Keep listening to children songs and idols dancing around in frilly skirts acting like 12 yos.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:05:20 2012 No.9808252

>>9808237
To a neophite, may be.

It's like cheese or wine, a rough barbarian may not differentiate between the various types of cheese/wine, maybe be disgusted by the food/beverage even, but an advanced conoisseur can differentiate between the various shades of taste he is able to feel while consuming it.

Same with anime-themed/otaku entertainment, a normal will see it all as "the same bland repetitive bug eyed moeshit", but a true conoisseur will be able to differentiate between the variour shades of imouto being in love with her older brother, tsundere, childhood friend (etc.) with ease, finding marvel and joy even in the most obscure and irrelevant details of such "unoriginal perverted cliche".

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:09:37 2012 No.9808261

>>9808251
R&D and rap are listended to by mostly black people so i'm not wrong and KPOP is heavily influenced by these genre.

I wasn't saying it was bad just telling the truth.

I actually like R&B and idol music from all around the world.

Here is one of my favorites

Boni - Go Around

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGqnDzKohjg

It's sad she is not popular

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:10:52 2012 No.9808264 >>9808252 >but a true conoisseur will be able to differentiate between the variour shades of imouto being in love with her older brother, tsundere, childhood friend (etc.) Show me some examples of these variations, sir sophisticated otaku.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:11:52 2012 No.9808265 >>9808264 Why? A barbarian like you wouldn't understand.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:12:07 2012 No.9808270 >>9808261 Alright I'm sorry then. It just sounded like something a typical ignorant j-pop dork who doesn't understand music would say.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:12:22 2012 No.9808266 >>9808265 You don't have any examples. Thought so.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:12:38 2012 No.9808267 >>9808261 I also like rap music (Well only Lil Kim really) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HER1RxputAw

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:12:52 2012 No.9808269 >>9808266 I just don't want to share them with you, that's all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:13:07 2012 No.9808273 Who gives a fuck about pop music? Where's the k-rock, k-techno, k-metal, k-denpa, k-orchestral, k-opera, k-traditional, or k-"what the fuck is this music"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:13:07 2012 No.9808274 >>9808271 Glad you understand, you just aren't ready for it, not with that kind of mentality.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:13:22 2012 No.9808271 >>9808269 Sure.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:14:22 2012 No.9808275 >>9808270 It's okay although... >dork are you that Youmu spammer?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:14:52 2012 No.9808277 I am English so it would be normal for me to be interested in English culture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:15:07 2012 No.9808278 >>9808261 >R&D and rap are listended to by mostly black people so i'm not wrong lel modern mainstream r&b and rap is produced by Jews and sold to Whites.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:15:07 2012 No.9808282 >>9808275 No. >>9808278 lel name one modern R&B artist. You have 2 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:16:07 2012 No.9808283 >>9808274 I asked because I'm genuinely curious. I want to know how you classify these variations, since you seemed so sure of yourself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:16:52 2012 No.9808287 >>9808273 Does not exist because Koreans are talentless hacks.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:16:52 2012 No.9808288

>>9808214
If you actually listened to music you wouldn't use "more modern" and "sexier" as terms of praise. Quite the opposite, in fact.

>>9808224
>sounds like its something that was produced in the year of our lord 2012

With good music, you can't tell the year it's been recorded in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:17:07 2012 No.9808294 It's like in Nyaruko, the aliens come down to Japan to consume their vastly superior entertainment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:17:52 2012 No.9808293 >>9808288 you obviously have no idea how mainstream music works. stop talking.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:18:07 2012 No.9808297

>>9808273
>k-opera

Yoonjo from the girl group Hello Venus wanted to be an opera singer but she said her body wasn't big enough to make a nice sound

Here is her singing a bit of opera:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIVh-lVi6F0

Here is another non pop song I like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXV7dfvSefo

But Kpop is more "Korean Popular Culture" than "Korean Pop Music" since Kim Yuna and that guy who beat Japan in the olympics are "Kpop stars" too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:18:22 2012 No.9808295 >>9808283 You're too young and rash, no deal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:19:38 2012 No.9808299 >>9808282 Kelly Rowland

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:19:52 2012 No.9808300 >>9808273 From what I can tell, Asians use "pop" as the catch-em-all term for all western-influenced crap.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:20:37 2012 No.9808304 >>9808299 I don't know if you are serious but I laughed like HELL because I haven't slept for 30 hours.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:21:52 2012 No.9808307 >>9808304 Was I wrong she does sing R&B music....

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:23:08 2012 No.9808310 >>9808295 Good to know you were only trolling, then.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:23:38 2012 No.9808312

>>9807928
>Why is it a popular choice for Western NEETs to become attached and obsessed with Japanese culture specifically? There are many countries with a rich cultural background like Korea, Russia, India and even places like England so why aren't there otakus that spend hours over-analysing and discussing these places?

None of those countries have Ninjas.

Martial arts movies, karate, samurai, ninja, kanji, japanese style architecture, japanese cultural things like bonzai and geisha; these have all been popular among normals even before the otaku wave.

Video games, being mostly made by the Japanese got that level of influence in gamers, and cartoons which have been shown on western TV since forever got those anime fans into it. Most have some sort of combination of love of games, anime, or ninjas, thus the large obsession with Japan. France had a lot of cartoons air, but there's never been much to stick you into French culture.

When one of those countries makes a game console or become popular for their movies or cartoons, then they will become like Japan. As it is, the only other place anyone gives a shit about is China, because it has all that kanji, kung-fu, and pagoda shit too.

Also I'm sure there are people obsessed with British culture and wear monocles and pith helmets while dreaming of going to foreign countries and shooting animals, then fucking the natives while drinking tea and wearing a top hat. There was a British fad just before the Japanese one after all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:23:54 2012 No.9808314 >>9808307 Kelly Rowland is an irrelevant slut who hasn't been relevant since Destinys Child broke up. Also her music is pop not R&B even if her wikipedia says otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:25:08 2012 No.9808319 >>9808314 I do agree that Kelly Rowland is manufactured by le jew bros though but she isn't R&B. this is r&b http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR8jkFYTe4c

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:25:23 2012 No.9808320 >>9808314 I like her anyway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIMAqSiesgM Good thing DC is getting back together then

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:25:38 2012 No.9808321 >>9808293 You're obviously too young to have ever looked back five or ten years behind and seen how dated all those "modern" recordings sound right now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:26:23 2012 No.9808324 >>9808300 When has anyone ever used the asian definition of anything?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:27:38 2012 No.9808326 >>9808321 What is your point? J-pop is a relic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:28:38 2012 No.9808329 Japan's got VNs and 2hu. Those two got me hooked. I bet other countries can't beat Japan in VN and eroge industries.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:28:38 2012 No.9808330 >>9808319 That sound generic.... I like music like this (Not R&B but it sounds nice) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScSHEnFNRck

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:31:24 2012 No.9808337 >>9808330 you like kelly rowland and duffy? no wonder frank ocean sounds generic to your ears.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:32:24 2012 No.9808339

>>9808273
>>9808273
This. Name some well-known Corean composers. In the meanwhile I could name dozens of well-known Japanese composers ranging from movie to game music industry.

It's hilarious how K-gooks are trying to ride with K-pop as if it's any good. It's like the only thing they can cling to in these Japan vs Corea arguments, which isn't much at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:33:10 2012 No.9808341 >>9808337 Sorry my bad taste anon...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:33:54 2012 No.9808344 >>9808341 it's ok, bad music needs listeners too!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:34:00 2012 No.9808347 >>9808326 My point? That you don't care or know shit about music. It did not change from two posts ago.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:34:30 2012 No.9808345 >>9808339 Sweetune (He composes music for many top idol groups) and Zico (He and Taeil compose all the BLOCKB songs)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:35:30 2012 No.9808348 >>9808345 >for many top idol groups And why should I give a shit? It's probably crap anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:36:00 2012 No.9808352 >>9808348 You said name 2 well known ones so I gave you 2 please don't be rude! Anyway does /jp/ like thai music?I do and i'd be glad to shar some with you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:36:30 2012 No.9808351 >>9808347 You're trying to argue that j-pop isn't garbage and then claim you know about music. Go back to listening to Pink Floyd instead of acting like you know shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:37:31 2012 No.9808354 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallyu Never stops being funny.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:38:33 2012 No.9808358 >>9808351 >Pink Floyd >Laughing Whores Not who you are talking to but you called j-pop a relic but you still cling to old shitty music.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:39:18 2012 No.9808360 >>9808358 Do you have problems with your reading comprehension, anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:39:33 2012 No.9808361 >>9808352 >You said name 2 well known ones so I gave you 2 please don't be rude! But those aren't well known, retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:44:04 2012 No.9808371 >>9808361 They are well known in Asia anon! Sweetune has so many hit songs in Japan, Korea, and South Asia His works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyjdlgP0_mM And BB is very popular in asia too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:48:03 2012 No.9808375 >>9808371 That was shit, please remove yourself from existence nerd.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:51:19 2012 No.9808380 >>9808358 It's not a laughing matter, you know how modern Pink Floyd were back in the early 70s? You literally couldn't get more modern than them, god, all the cutting-edge production and sound effects.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:53:19 2012 No.9808383 >>9808375 Don't bully me I like sweetune's compositions....

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:55:50 2012 No.9808388 >>9808371 >They are well known in Asia anon! If the best-known Korean composer in Asia is completely unknown to anyone in the English-speaking world, then yeah, Korea has nothing on Japan. Surely you can come up with something more popular.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:56:53 2012 No.9808392 >>9808383 :D

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:58:07 2012 No.9808399 >>9808388 I didn't say he was the best from Korea (I'm pretty sure the best wouldn't do idol music) though just popular and well known within asia.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:58:37 2012 No.9808397 Why do we even have corea strong shitposters here? Shouldn't they be on /q/ sucking dick for a board to talk about the two or three famous coreans on?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 09:59:38 2012 No.9808401 >>9808397 Astroturfers, that's what they all are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:00:52 2012 No.9808406 >>9808397 You are Japan biased and it's easy to tell everyone who posted in this thread about the positives of Korea have been completely neutral and are in no way "corea strong" types.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:02:07 2012 No.9808412 I mean if your music taste consists of anime OPs it makes sense you'd think garbage like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEYWTrACFDE is amazing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:03:22 2012 No.9808413 >>9808406 Please tell us more about the illegally occupied american puppet state.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:05:52 2012 No.9808421 >>9808412 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEYWTrACFDE JKT's version is better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mCRlK7A2D4 But you can enjoy all types of music and don'thave to just stick to one type anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:06:37 2012 No.9808424 >>9808406 >Korea have been completely neutral and are in no way "corea strong" types. learn to troll retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:07:37 2012 No.9808428 >>9808412 >anime OPs how about ainme OSTs?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:08:59 2012 No.9808429 >>9808413 Don't understand >>9808424 Don't call names anon!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:12:16 2012 No.9808442 >>9808424 Please do not quote parts of sententence to help you say stupid things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:13:46 2012 No.9808447 >>9808442 *parts of a sentence I am too tired for this!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:18:31 2012 No.9808459 Gee, this thread made me check, and I didn't even realize how huge the Gangnam Style has gotten. As happy as I am about this, it's going to fuel Korean music astroturfers for decades to come.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:21:16 2012 No.9808465 On the subject of Korean shit, anyone know if the cheap Korean 27" IPS monitors any good?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:21:31 2012 No.9808467 >>9808152 >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukiyaki_%28song%29 Not UK, but this song topped the US charts. >>9808177 Ozone. Back in the day, I had that shit on replay all the time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:23:01 2012 No.9808469 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIYu4EHq0Lo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oBMDcLf6WA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGekq3Jt5Go I can't believe you all were discussing international music and didn't post these gems yet! Shame on you /jp/!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:29:12 2012 No.9808472 File: 26 KB, 687x386, 1341162845438.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anime and touhou aren't japanese culture, they are otaku culture. Otaku culture is aimed to the isolated schizophrenic smegma of society. That's why we can identify with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:29:56 2012 No.9808474 >>9808459 >Happy It's fucking horrible no matter where I go I can ignore as hard as I try and it's really getting on my nerves. People are mispronouncing the title and calling it Chinese, Japanese, Spanish and everything but Korean.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:33:11 2012 No.9808481 >>9808474 but Corea is a province of China where they speak Japanese.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 10:39:07 2012 No.9808490

>>9808474
It may be horrible for you if you're Korean, but for someone here in the west it's extremely refreshing. I'll choose any foreigner over yet another crappy local starlet in a heartbeat.

And what a lesson it can serve to the whole movement. Originality matters! Who would have thought.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:02:33 2012 No.9808558

I'm picky about how a language sounds. I like the sound of Japanese. I don't like the sound of Korean or Chinese. Japanese just sounds cleaner. Well defined syllables, and easy to process.

I don't like kpop. It's too similar to western pop, and somehow the girls come off as even more materialistic than their Japanese and American counterparts, if that's even possible. Also, see my first comment about the sound. And no, it's not "huge" in the west by any stretch of the imagination.

They don't make good games. I've liked a couple Korean MMOs, but the majority are exactly the same and completely awful... and outside of MMORPGs, they don't produce anything remotely notable.

They don't make good cartoons. Or anything really noteworthy in that respect. There might be a one-off here or there, but it's not very big.

I do like some Korean movies, that is one form of media I do consume from their culture.

As for places like Russia, everything is fucking terrible. Everything. I don't even need to go into details.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:02:48 2012 No.9808561 Look into 'Hating The Korean Wave', /jp/ - it's basically a manga about disputed islands and how desperately they are trying to reject imported Korean pop culture. Those pesky Japs really have it in for the Koreans.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:07:48 2012 No.9808575 >>9808472 >isolated schizophrenic smegma of society Speak for yourself. /jp/ posters are gods amongst men in my opinion and I would have sex with all of them.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:10:04 2012 No.9808581
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What I believe is the case is that it only seems like NEETs and hikis attach themselves to Japanese culture because we have no frame of reference outside of this board.
when you think about the small percentage of people outside japan who take interest in Japanese culture, an even smaller percentage of that group would fall into the category OP is talking about

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:15:51 2012 No.9808591

>>9808581
I think you'd be surprised how much Japanese culture has spread, at least in the US. I see it all over the place now. To the point where it's become normal for normalfags to be able to identify certain things. I remember even just a decade ago it seemed like nobody had a clue...

Granted it has spread in a rather annoying fashion, rife with misunderstandings and, in many cases, derisive representation. But the exposure is getting there. Largely thanks to the internet, of course.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:16:35 2012 No.9808595 There is nothing exceptionally good about Japan as a country. In fact it's shittier than most first world countries and especially so if you're a foreigner.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:18:35 2012 No.9808602 >>9808595 Only if you're working there. If you're just visiting, it's really nice. I enjoyed my time there, at least. 10/10 would visit again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:23:35 2012 No.9808615 i lived in korea and japan. ask me anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:26:35 2012 No.9808628 >>9808615 How many hot guys did you sleep with?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:32:22 2012 No.9808649 >>9808628 all korean and japanese men are either scawny or looks gay.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:37:37 2012 No.9808668

>>9808602
Oh that it is, but most countries are nice when you just visit them. The locals want to make a good impression on you. Besides, I don't find the Japanese to be too friendly towards foreigners. Surely they are polite and everything, but from my experience dealing with them online it's very hard to get to know them on a personal level. I speak some Japanese (more than enough if I wanted to visit, anyway) so even when the language barrier wasn't as relevant I still couldn't make friends. It doesn't help their English is awful and they tend to stick to their own corner of the internet.

On the other hand, I have no trouble making friends with pretty much every other nationality online. I guess that's one of the main reasons why I don't care about learning Japanese anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:37:52 2012 No.9808670 >>9808216 >Most western people (Or should I say American) don't listen to non American music That's not true. There are songs by British people regularly in the charts in America. Adele, for example.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:41:14 2012 No.9808681 >>9808668 Japanese people are strangely shy >>9808670 America is a british colony so that should be obviously excluded >>9808649 *Many

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:43:29 2012 No.9808689 >>9808681 >America is a british colony so that should be obviously excluded What about Canadian musicians?

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 11:44:14 2012 No.9808693

>>9808668
Eh, I don't find them hard to get along with at all. Just go out drinking with them. They love doing that, and they unwind. It's just a cultural barrier. I spent a month in Tokyo. A housemate I became friends with (another white guy from the states) taught business English there. He took me out with him and some of his students a few times. After a few drinks, the barriers come down quite a ways. I didn't know Japanese nearly as well then as I do now, but I could communicate well enough... and since they were English students, it was even easier since I could use a broken mix of languages. We went bar hopping, and eventually the teacher wasn't even with us.

But even beyond that, I met up with a couple I knew from the internet, went out to dinner with a nice lady, et cetera.

So yeah, they're mostly just polite all the time if they don't know you. But they're not only that way with foreigners -- they're that way with their own kind, too. It's getting past that which is harder for foreigners, simply due to that cultural and language barrier. But once you do, it's not terribly different from making friends anywhere else in the world.

I guess it's a good thing they love to drink so much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 20:20:24 2012 No.9810547 mmm... sperm!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 20:28:44 2012 No.9810580 File: 21 KB, 501x585, 1349049506594.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq5vRKiQlUQ This is what causes western men to go to the east.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 20:55:11 2012 No.9810679

So how the fuck did Korean music become so popular with the west all of a sudden when Japanese do it so much better and actually have talent. Wouldn't this song be more popular? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx2Xkd_H3po I live in the us and i still dont get it. I always thought Japanese music would be first to become popular but Korean music randomly did, why? I mean Japanese music i was always far more popular on the internet. can somebody explain how the fuck Korean won the music war? because i cant believe this shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 20:57:11 2012 No.9810691 File: 4 KB, 80x87, 1344499614738.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9810679

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 20:59:41 2012 No.9810708 >>9810679 >So how the fuck did Korean music become so popular with the west http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXHhMlJF9RU

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 21:00:11 2012 No.9810713

>>9810691
no really, what happened..
Im really confused, my friend said that psy song started with star craft but still. how the fuck did it become so popular to reach fucking American radio channels like BLI? I mean japanese music has just been hear on the internet as way more popular and much more known for years, so why did this happen?

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 21:03:59 2012 No.9810736

>>9810708
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXHhMlJF9RU
So? the Japanese have good looking models also, in fact the U.S likes the Japanese beauty. the hime cut is still really popular with models. I really want to known the bottom of all this. All these years i knew the American population would open up to eastern music, but i didnt see Korean even close.. I mean they where just not as popular as Japanese culture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 21:04:59 2012 No.9810740 >>9810736 Japanese do not have GEE GEE GEE GEE BABY BABY BABY

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 21:08:29 2012 No.9810759

>>9810679
Japanese music and culture IS popular and has been for a long time. As for music, I think Westerners (at least the ones in the know) have always held respect for the Japanese music scene. Anyone who's a fan of various rock subgenres, hip-hop, or new-wave should be familiar with the notable Japanese artists. On the pop side, people have groups like Capsule or Perfume. Otaku have idol groups and denpa music. Do you remember the buzz that one Miku concert generated a year or two ago? Even Fox News reported on it.

Korean music is only "popular" because it latches onto trends and spends much more money trying to force it. Every time I hear K-pop, it sounds just like the shit on the radio. This combined with it's "foreign" air and gimmicky nature makes it prime fad material. People listen to it and think they're special because they're listening to "Asian music", but it isn't in any actual sense. They haven't actually "won" anything. Japanese music has actually influenced artists. Korea will never have something on the level of Boredoms or YMO and this is because they don't care about the art--only money.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 21:09:15 2012 No.9810762

>>9810740
But they have actually good music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kFhPVAhV_o also i dont understand how psy became so popular when any Japanese could easily. I mean was it really because of star craft? I hear it started with league of legends also.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 21:11:44 2012 No.9810776 >>9810762 I mean i swear i though one day this song would be on the radio one day. Is it just because the Japanese haven't put any money into pushing it? then why did the psy song become so popular randomly?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 21:12:59 2012 No.9810787 >>9810759 I agree with this sentiment. K-POP really does sound like stuff the US and Japan have been making for years already. I feel like people like it because it's Asian or because of "Web 2.0"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 21:13:15 2012 No.9810789 >>9810762 >actually good music Popular music is normally shit, though.

Anonymous Mon Oct 1 21:18:47 2012 No.9810817

>>9810776
>then why did the psy song become so popular randomly?
Do you really have to wonder?

1. Pop melody and chorus that easily gets stuck in your head.
2. Ridiculously mainstream, but "foreign"/hard/ironic enough to be cool amongst hipsters
3. Dance gimmick

It's no different from Lady Gaga, that "You're a Jerk" song, or Soulja Boy before it. It's the same pop formula that's been used time and time again to generate hype and bring in money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 23:05:19 2012 No.9811307 >>9808615 How easy are japanese girls?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 23:23:18 2012 No.9811381 >>9810759 >Japanese music has actually influenced artists. Like?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 23:28:02 2012 No.9811405 >>9808226 >K-games Ragnarok, GunZ, Mabi and some other K-games are special for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 23:30:47 2012 No.9811413 >>9808287 Listen to some N.EX.T or Crash and they me they are tallentless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 1 23:34:32 2012 No.9811439 >>9810679 >when Japanese do it so much better and actually have talent. Because that's a lie.

tripstopissyouoff !Inoac9aXuY Tue Oct 2 00:39:24 2012 No.9811686

Am I supposed to be entertained with breaking amish, honey booboo child, MSM that is run by lobbyists and PR, shit music that hurts my ears since nu metal and punk rock died.

I relooked at western media again when game of thrones came out and it was good and all... but I mean thats really it.

its all fake reality tv, propaganda news, shit black/preteen music, etc.

Anonymous Tue Oct 2 00:44:12 2012 No.9811706

>>9811686
yea right western media is pretty good. western films destroys japanese films. western music as a whole beats jap although jap music is pretty good too. jap gaming is better but western games are getting better jap games are getting worse. all they have going on is otaku culture. all in all jap's make good otaku shit the west makes good normal shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 00:50:17 2012 No.9811737 >>9808170 Gee is also shit, like all idol music. Stop slapfighting over your shitty Asian entertainment.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 00:52:01 2012 No.9811752 This entire thread is made up of fat, smelly fujoshi, isn't it? They are the only people who care this much about K-pop.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 00:58:33 2012 No.9811775 >>9811686 Here Comes Honey Boo Boo is a good show

Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:01:48 2012 No.9811788

>>9811752
I don't care about K-pop, and the only draw to that is the girls anyways, since no one here can honestly say that music is any good at all. It is like boybands. It isn't about the music, its about using the "singers" as part of your masturbation fantasies.

Because of that, i'd say its mostly smelly otaku that are into that shit instead.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:02:18 2012 No.9811789 man /jp/ sure is shittier than I thought it would be

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:02:33 2012 No.9811793 >>9808128 Both asian-pops are unheard of in the west anyway. Japan has a much bigger world wide presence. >George Takei >Yoko Ono >Miyamoto (Mario and Karate) >Takeshi Kitano >Miyazaki Hayao

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:05:33 2012 No.9811800 >>9811793 Before that Gee thing on /v/ spread, I thought Koreans just made those shitty Kia brand cars and were communist.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:06:49 2012 No.9811802 >>9807930 >anime quality

tripstopissyouoff !Inoac9aXuY Tue Oct 2 01:06:49 2012 No.9811803

>>9811706
do you consider game center CX otaku culture?

even their variety shows have spirit unlike American "reality" shows with big tittied botox whores.

many games are good. the gameplay, music and atomsphere of Cave Story still give me a boner to this day.

there is hundreds of doujin games a day...we have kusoge,guroge,ryonage, eroge,galge,JRPG,shmup... every flavor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:07:04 2012 No.9811807 >>9811793 Most people only know Yoko, and that's because of John Lenon. Actually, from that list, I only know Yoko and Miyamoto.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:07:49 2012 No.9811808 I'm a usaboo still find western stuff to be much more entertaining.

>>	sage Tue Oct 2 01:08:20 2012 No.9811810 >>9811807 You must live in a cave if you don't know at least Karate Miyamoto and George Takei.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:08:20 2012 No.9811811 File: 200 KB, 1024x765, 1349088061728.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You should become fans of western idoru

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:11:39 2012 No.9811818 >>9811810 Never heard of "Karate" Miyamoto and the other one. And no, I have not. I only know Miyamoto because I like video-games (more than most people).

>>	sage Tue Oct 2 01:11:54 2012 No.9811819 >>9811810 Ah shit, not Miyamoto, it's fucking Miyagi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:14:39 2012 No.9811825 I don't think many people like Japan culture. They have high suicide rates...

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:15:24 2012 No.9811827 >>9811825 corean pigs have higher suicide rate

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:16:10 2012 No.9811830 >psy gets big >got his degree in music from boston university in the us East just copies their masters in the west anyway.

Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:17:39 2012 No.9811834

Dragon Ball Z (anime)
Toyota (cars)
Samurai/Katana (cultural)
Sushi (food)
Sumo wrestling (sports)

You koreaboo's are fucking fooling yourselves if you think Korea is even comparable to Japan.

It's like comparing Germany and Slovakia. People will say "you mean Czechoslovakia?" and then you'll say "No no, there is Czech Republic and Slovakia now!" and then they'll roll their eyes and lose interest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:23:25 2012 No.9811843 >>9811811 she is more beautiful than any Japanese idols

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:23:39 2012 No.9811846 >>9811834 that was a terrible analogy, just terrible.

Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:23:54 2012 No.9811847

>>9811381
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Magic_Orchestra#Legacy_and_influence
Those guys are like Japanese Kraftwerk.

Alongside that, a lot of post-rock and noise-rock artists as well as hardcore techno producers cite Japanese influence. I've also seen quite a few underground hip-hop artists cite Nujabes as an influence/inspiration. Anime samples can be heard in Proxy's (Russian) Who Are You; he even takes his name from the show Ergo Proxy.

We're talking about a country that generates its own genres (e.g. "Japanoise" or Shibuya-kei).

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:32:14 2012 No.9811863 >>9811843 Its cause asians are ugly plus they wear ten pounds of makeup.

Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:32:28 2012 No.9811865

K-Pop can compete with J-Pop, sure, but Japan has a musical heritage with incomparably more more breadth. Japanese rock, metal, and EDM is known around the world, if not by your average person, at least by people who listen to the stuff. Takemitsu is a legendary classical composer who has been honored around the world. And everyone remotely in tune with Japanese media have heard music by Yuki Kaijura and Nobuo Uematsu. (It is anime and video game music, but people take that stuff seriously, I doubt you'll find J or K pop arranges for symphony orchestras anytime soon.)

>>9811830
>East just copies their masters in the west anyway.
There's nothing wrong with being inspired by the West. Almost all of Japan's music is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:35:13 2012 No.9811870 >>9811865 I still find it funny when you point that out to the moronic people obsessed with japan or korea and they get pissed off about it.

Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:37:58 2012 No.9811878

>>9811865
I've seen jazz bands cover anime openings. It's not a stretch to think there might be orchestras that cover Ghibli soundtracks or something.

>There's nothing wrong with being inspired by the West. Almost all of Japan's music is.
Inspiration is one thing; ripping everything from it is another. Both are guilty of this to some degree, but at least Japan makes an attempt at originality. If Korea isn't ripping Western music, it's copying Japan. I can't find a single thing to like about their pop culture; I have enough of that shit here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:38:13 2012 No.9811879 >>9811381 Really. To not prolong this shit: ever heard of YMO?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:38:43 2012 No.9811883 File: 194 KB, 1222x863, 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9811863 she makes gook women look disgusting

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:41:43 2012 No.9811890 >>9811847 >generates its own genres (e.g. "Japanoise" or Shibuya-kei) Not to mention Eurobeat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:47:30 2012 No.9811898 >>9811381 Megadeth, Marty Friedman specifically

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 01:53:24 2012 No.9811906 >>9811898 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xt4pif_momoiro-clover-z-mugen-no-ai-with-marty-friedman_music Living the dream.

History Lesson Anonymous Tue Oct 2 02:09:01 2012 No.9811958
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Korea is a country of slaves and prostitutes. They were China's most loyal slave state until the end of the 19th century, once western and Japanese powers brought an end to Chinese imperialism. Shortly after, Japan annexed Korea and ruled it until the Japanese defeat in WW2. From there, Korea was split into two, and the South Korea we know today became a mere puppet state of America.

So it's no surprise that K-POP, Korea's greatest claim to fame, is just a rehashed and formulaic mix of American pop music and Japanese idols.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 02:11:16 2012 No.9811961 >>9811958 ganganam style XD

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 02:14:51 2012 No.9811973 Can someone explain why gangum style even got big in the first place? Its a fucking horrible song.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 02:17:05 2012 No.9811983 >>9811958 No one gives a shit about Corea, seriously.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 02:18:20 2012 No.9811984 >>9811973 See >>9810817 Push a tried and true formula the way Korea has, and eventually one has to make it through. I'm actually surprised it took so long.

Anonymous Tue Oct 2 02:28:57 2012 No.9812013

Because of I've been born in the West, our culture just became standard and normal.
Add that to the fact that Japanese culture is rich, diverse and amazing, you don't need to be a genius to find out why there are some many of us otakus spread worldwide.
Also, the values that the Japanese media tries to promote is completly different than the modern Western counterpart.
Listen to their lyrics and see the difference...

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 02:31:11 2012 No.9812027 Slowpoke, here. So all these /pol/ raids lately, were in truth Koreashit ones...

Anonymous Tue Oct 2 02:40:43 2012 No.9812052

What does Korea have in games?
All they play is SC2 that's not even Korean.

When Korea or the West pro industry produce any game close to Dark Souls, Mario Kart or SMB and their indie developers anything close to my Touhou, VN's and doujins come back and make a shit thread like this one again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 02:49:45 2012 No.9812066 >>9812052 Kingdom Under Fire

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 02:53:38 2012 No.9812069 >>9807928 >Why is it a popular choice for Western NEETs to become attached and obsessed with Japanese culture specifically? Because I'm a truNEET just like in my Japanese animes xD

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 02:54:53 2012 No.9812073 Is it possible to become a slav? Is it even possible to become slavaboo?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 02:57:49 2012 No.9812079 >>9812073 I'm pretty much a russiaboo, so much soul.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 02:59:34 2012 No.9812085 >>9812073 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_Neopaganism

Anonymous Tue Oct 2 03:03:51 2012 No.9812094

It's simple.
Japan makes their pop culture for themselves.
The rest of the world are try-hards who want to export their crap or shitty unoriginal rehashes.
Basically what /jp/ knows about Japan comes from our own research and lurking. Japan greatest secret to worldwide culture success is that they don't try to whore their culture to appeal to foreigners and that what always make us curious and crave for more.

"What will Japan do next?"

Japan culture doesn't reach for us. We reach for it.
It has always been like this. Look for Japan and Europe first contact.
I would say that France and Japan cultural exchange is a great example.

All of this makes /jp/ culture unique.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 03:48:10 2012 No.9812218 >>9812094 I can't believe people think like you. Anime came from Disney. Video games? They took ideas from the west too. Jpop? Same thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 03:49:55 2012 No.9812223 >>9812218 refer to this gook >>9811878

Anonymous Tue Oct 2 03:51:10 2012 No.9812231
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I dont wanna compare japan to corea anymore because they're not really comparable. let's bash coreans and their ugly mugs instead instead. no wonder even their males are getting plastic surgery

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 03:56:25 2012 No.9812244 >>9812218 Disney greatest success is based on Kimba, the White Lion. Video games got nothing until NES and their Japanese games. Not to even mention, Sega and Playstation. Thank your Japanese Overlords for the strong Game Industry we have today.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 03:59:42 2012 No.9812249 >>9812231 lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 04:00:30 2012 No.9812253 Cats don't cry tears when they're 'sad' that cat has a serious health problem

Anonymous Tue Oct 2 04:00:30 2012 No.9812254

>>9812218
It's true. Japanese culture is more respected in the global eye because it's self-contained and unobtrusive. Consider the influence of Japanese art/culture across Europe during and after the Meiji Restoration. France went through an entire movement of "weeabooism". Against the obnoxious vomit that is the "korean wave", Japanese culture seems much more refined in comparison.

I have never once heard a Japanese person proclaim how "great" their culture is. Koreans on the other hand (at least the ones around here) can't seem to shut up about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 04:01:45 2012 No.9812257 >>9812218 Xbox fanboy >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 04:03:30 2012 No.9812262 >>9812218 Korean pig, go homu!

Anonymous Tue Oct 2 04:03:45 2012 No.9812263

>>9812254

There are no real Koreans on this board, and hardly any Japanese, if any. These "koreans" you're talking about are a handful of buttmad white guys, and the entire board is dedicated to how "great" Japanese culture is, whether you want to believe it or not. Don't delude yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 04:03:45 2012 No.9812264 >>9812231 why do koreans and japanese look so different? aren't they the same people?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 04:05:00 2012 No.9812268 >>9812263 >There are no real Koreans on this board, and hardly any Japanese, if any. Maybe not mainland Koreans, but there are Korean immigrants living in other countries posting on /jp/, that's for certain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 04:07:19 2012 No.9812275 >>9812263 I think he means the Koreans he knows in real life, dude....

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 04:07:33 2012 No.9812276 >>9812264 your going to base that off one pic. both are north east asian and the same race

Anonymous Tue Oct 2 04:07:33 2012 No.9812277

>>9812263
I had meant Koreans in real life, not on /jp/. Sorry if that was confusing.

Also, I don't think the majority userbase here is Japanese. What /jp/ thinks doesn't matter because it's little more than anonymous rambling. I'm not saying Japanese culture is the best or anything, I'm just saying there's an appeal in keeping to yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 04:07:33 2012 No.9812278 >>9812263 Nope.jpg Did you not see how moot almost opened a /kor/ just for koreaboos who keep spamming him? Also, it's not unusual to see threads "Y u no like Korea best" in /jp/ and /a/. They are here, hidden among us. One dirty propoganda at a time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 04:08:33 2012 No.9812281 >>9812276 i doubt it would be any different if i sat foot in japan and korea and compared its people

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 04:19:51 2012 No.9812317 I'm surprised this thread continued so far past "Japan is a major cultural exporter." I really think it's as simple as that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 04:25:06 2012 No.9812328 Meido you useless piece of trash. Stop fujoshing and clean these /pol/shit threads.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 2 04:33:54 2012 No.9812347 >>9807928 >please respond Look at this retard. He spent weeks lurking on /jp/ to learn our mannerism and try to fade as one of us and propagate his insecurities on our board... Wow, he even sages. Are you really that pitiful koreaboo ShitStormfag?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 04:34:11 2012 No.9817516 >>9812278 Stop that shit please

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 3 22:07:54 2012 No.9821429 del

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