/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

What do you do to stay motivated with your Japanese language studying?

I imported several of the games that I most want to play but will never be localized and I put them right next to my computer so every day I have to look at them and think about how I can finally play these once I have learned enough.

It keeps me motivated.

[Anonymous No.]

Which games did you import?

[Anonymous No.]

I severely whip my back with a belt if I ever get lazy and avoid doing my reps. If I avoid doing it multiple days in a row then I smash my head against the wall and punch myself repeatedly.

I once gave myself a black eye, cut my forehead on the edge of a table, and punched a piece of metal until my knuckles were bleeding after three days of slacking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9742037

Ryu ga Gotoku Kenzan. There's a few others too, but this is what motivates me the most. Once Ryu ga Gotoku 5 is released in December then I'll have even more motivation.

[Anonymous No.]

I was a huge yurifag back before things were really getting translated much. After a fairly rudimentary formal education in the language, I just kept reading because there was no other way to access material. I just kept looking shit up, because I had to know what happened next.

I also do what OP does -- I have a huge pile of LNs on my desk at the moment.

[Anonymous No.]

What amazing motivation! I like it because not only is it a physical copy, but you also spent your hard earned money on it and that it's also a motivation you can build onto! This man is a genius!

[Anonymous No.]

I'm losing my spirit to persevere.

I recently realized that I can read anything I see, but I have no idea what any of it means. I thought I had accomplished something when I finally firmly drilled kanji into my head and before that when I memorized the kana, but now the obstacles ahead seem so much bigger. If it took me nearly a year just to get down the ABCs of Japanese then how long will it take me to understand the complex grammar rules and an entire vocabulary?

It's like being able to read romaji. Anyone can do it if they can read English but none of it will make any sense. Why do people act like learning kanji is such a big accomplishment? It's nothing. I still don't understand anything.

[Sakura !RAILgUnr8s No.]

>>9742094
Grammar is fairly easy to learn, and a lot easier than memorising all the kanji. I'm surprised you didn't learn it before hand or while you were studying kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9742094
>I can read anything I see, but I have no idea what any of it means

what

[Anonymous No.]

I stay motivated out of necessity. I call it the "sink or swim" method.

I installed the Japanese version of windows, I install every game in Japanese if possible, and all of my electronics are set to Japanese language whenever possible. Initially I had no idea what the fuck was going on in everything I did and just finding the sound settings was difficult but it got easier and easier as I continued to study. I stay motivated because if I stop then I won't be able to do simple things like read the start menu.

[Anonymous No.]

When I begin to falter I look at the framed photograph of Moogy that I have hanging on the wall. Seeing his handsome face, stern but loving smile, and fashionable sun glasses always gives me the boost of energy that I need to go the extra mile and keep fighting.

[Anonymous No.]

This man.

This man is the reason that myself and a lot of older /jp/ers know Japanese.

If you ever find yourself down on motivation, or simply aren't unaware of the fastest method to fluency try reading some of the philosophy at AJATT.

http://www.ajatt.com/toc

[Anonymous No.]

>>9742160
It's so hard to see his face.

[Anonymous No.]

I only read 821 of my 2769 (growing daily) non-ero untranslated Touhou doujinshi. Still a long way to go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9742160

Does he have crazy braided hair that's shooting off into the sky like the top of a carrot or is that just part of the night sky? I can't tell and my face is an inch away from the picture.

[Anonymous No.]

It's become a habit. Wake up, do my reps, make new sentence cards, do other things while listening to Japanese. The language itself has become the motivation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9742188
>shooting off intot he sky like the top of a carrot
Holy shit that would be sweet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9742148

Why is Moogy so ugly and badly dressed? There's loser/nerd tier, and then there's Moogy tier.

[Anonymous No.]

i don't really study anymore. i still do anki reps but that takes like 10 minutes per day tops. otherwise i just browse japanese sites or read eroge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9742200
you probably didn't dress any better when you were 15

[もこっち !DoLLFaGERs!!2JFIQGtvKGO No.]

>>9742203

Yeah same here I can read 2ch news4vip but I still find speaking actual Japanese troublesome. I should study grammar more but holy shit I am very lazy.

[Anonymous No.]

I need no motivation. My will is ironclad.

[Anonymous No.]

i wish i could be not motivated to learn japanese, it's wasting a lot of my time
but i just can't not be motivated, because i see something untranslated almost everyday

[Anonymous No.]

>>9742352

>it's wasting a lot of my time

What do you need to do that's better than learning Japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9742191
This. Once it becomes a habit - like masturbating - you won't need motivation to learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>9742369
play video games
watch movies
browse the internet

[Anonymous No.]

>>9742369
anything that will actually help me survive and get money
but i feel it will end like >>9742484
anyway

[Anonymous No.]

I don't. Kanji is a bully.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9742160

I love Khatzumoto. A lot of people don't like his writing (likely envy), but I do.

[Anonymous No.]

Ritalin is all you are ever going to need. Just pop a pill and you'll be able to grind kanji for 6 hours straight.

I have no idea how I was able to learn things without this wonder drug. It makes things so much easier and less boring.

[Anonymous No.]

I gave up trying to learn and just translate anything I want to read painfully with dictionary help.
I learn the meanings of words sooner or later. I thought it wasn't helping but I went back and looked at old things and was surprised at how much I've learned.

I already know my kanas and grammar though so it's always just a matter of learning words for me.


Slang and abbreviations fuck me the fuck up, that and sound effects. It wouldn't be bad if I knew what the fuck they were supposed to mean and they weren't put in place of actual nouns and ajactives like everyone automatically knows what it stands for.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't stay motivated. Before yesterday I hadn't learned new kanji for ten days. I'm in need of motivation.

Yesterday I tried reading some ポケットモンスターSPECIAL but holy shit, Sapphire destroys the language.

[Anonymous No.]

my yamato damashii keeps me motivated

i am true of spirit

[Anonymous No.]

eroge everyday and you will see the light

[Anonymous No.]

Hah, you nerds use valuable brain capacity and time to learn something as useless as a shitty logographic language that only some isolated island speaks?
Don't mind me, I'll be over here learning how to differentiate high order, nonlinear, differential equations and discrete mathematics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9743251

You can read but you're still learning kanji? What's your kanji count?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9742094
I have the same problem as this gentleman. I know about 600 kanji at this point, and learn new ones every day. Despite being at the point where I understand what most Kanji in a sentence mean, without any grammar knowledge the sentences themselves are just gibberish to me. I'm rapidly losing motivation and I don't know what to do!

Also, simply learning what the Kanji means in English might be fucking me up. I think instead I should learn how they're pronounced as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9743379
It's ポケモン. That means simple dialogue for primary schoolers with full furigana. I pick up some kanji along the way so I'd think it's a good idea. The thing is, there's this character who speaks like a caveman. That totally throws me off.
My count is a meager 300 kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9743385

You learn readings in the context of sentences and vocab after.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9743251
>Sapphire destroys the language
If you pay attention to her dialogue pattern, it becomes easy to understand what she's saying (i.e. how she replaces "wo" with "ba" and "da/desu" with "ttai"). I remember being younger and reading Pokespe, I had trouble with her speech too when I started the RS chapter. I'm sure it's some kind of real dialect, but I've never bothered to look into it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9742056
Yurifag... LNs... posting at 3 am... Are you Nakazato Mitsuru guy?

Yes, I'm stalking you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9743349
But I already know that shit. And DiffEq was easier than learning Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9742094
>>9743385
This is why I always recommend learning vocab rather than just kanji. The kanji alone don't really help you. Rather than learn 2000 kanji, spend the time on Core 2000, and you'll be far closer to being able to read real Japanese by the time you're done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9743775

Common faulty argument. Vocab acquisition is a lot harder without kanji knowledge.

http://www.supermemo.com/articles/20rules.htm

Rule #1 and #2 for formulating knowledge in learning.

[Anonymous No.]

No, eventually you'll be out of focus anyway, because take it easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9743985
That's funny. If it's such a "faulty argument", why has it worked so well for me, when I could never get anywhere when I was trying to study only kanji?

First, just by learning vocab you pick up on the meanings and readings of the kanji pretty quickly. Second, the fact is that a lot of the time the meaning of a word has little to do with the meanings of its component kanji. Third, your logic is backwards: kanji acquisition is a lot harder without vocab knowledge. Why would you try to learn something you have absolutely no context for? Learning kanji one by one is just wasting your time. All it does is give you an extra mnemonic that might or might not help you with your vocab in the beginning, but it's counterproductive as often as not.

In any case, one of the most important things when learning a language is to see it and use it in a natural context. You want to get to the point where you can read real sentences in real situations as quickly as you possibly can, because your learning will skyrocket from there. In order to do that, you absolutely have to have grammar and vocabulary knowledge. But if you want to waste months learning kanji only to find they won't actually help you read anything, I guess that's your prerogative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744051
I agree with you on the vocab thing but everyone has something that works for them, there isn't a completely right or wrong way to approach a language I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

the prospects of being able to liberally translate hilarious doujinshi keeps me motivated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744051

In a period of four months I've went from 0 to being able read a lot of VNs and understand 70-80% of any anime.

Why? Because doing the kanji is like steroiding the learning experience given that you stick with it. Learning it like a normal doesn't get you anywhere.

The rest of your post was so bad and incorrect that I'm not even going to respond to it because, well, I feel bad. Try and approach a sentence with several unknown 3+ character jukugo and see how you fare without any kanji knowledge. I would just call you stupid, but like I said I honestly pity you.

See: http://www.supermemo.com/articles/20rules.htm

I'm objectively right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744085
>I'm objectively right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744085
>Before you proceed with memorizing individual facts and rules, you need to build an overall picture of the learned knowledge. Only when individual pieces fit to build a single coherent structure, will you be able to dramatically reduce the learning time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744085
It's like you didn't actually read anything I posted. That link you keep flaunting supports my argument, not yours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744081
That seems like a hot scat doujin to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744117

Quite.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I had enough time to go to a language institute and take some classes. one of my relatives is retired, she started attending classes once a week to keep herself busy 2 years ago and can read most text I throw at her. She even won a small scholarship and spent a month there last semester... now sure what level she's at though. If I had started in 2007 I would be fluent by now

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744121
I made this one!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744139

You translated it? Thank you, I enjoyed it thoroughly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744130
That's why I started learning Japanese even though when I started there wasn't that many things that interested me. The thought of looking back on myself two years from now and thinking, damn I should have learned Japanese back then motivated me.

[Anonymous No.]

I watched intro movies for games that I wanted to play and hyped myself up to eleven. Would always boost my motivation and productivity. Caucasus and AQUA both come to mind. Especially the latter looks beautiful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6DC6eVfQ-I
Never finished AQUA because I picked up Baldr Sky instead and Caucasus ended up being pretty まあまあ.

All with self study which means my output skills (writing and talking) are rather shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744157
I wanted to sign up at the same place back in May (she's actually studying Chinese, but they teach a lot of different languages) but I couldn't make the class fit into my schedule. I should be taking the level 5 exam by now. The price is also a issue, she gets a big discount because she's retired, if I signed up for it it would take away nearly 20% of my salary every month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744169
Same. I also made a list of things I want to play/read/watch once I can and it's getting bigger once in a while and it keeps me motivated.

>>9744176
That's a big issue. I'm self studying but what you're describing sounds good, it's shame you couldn't sign up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744184
>I also made a list of things I want to play/read/watch once I can and it's getting bigger once in a while and it keeps me motivated.
My wishlist on VNDB is now at three pages and growing. By the time I'm actually able to read any of it, I'll never be able to get through them all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744197
Well, my list doesn't have as much visual novels but it's still rather big.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744197
>wishlist on VNDB
I'm already suffering from that problem.
Wishlist: 218 games
Games that I already have: 151
Completed games: 39

Welp. Before knowing Japanese I pretty much had no choice on what to read, now I'm drowning in my backlog and it takes a chunk of my time to sift all the "worth reading" games from your regular stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm genuinely interested, and recently signed up for a Japanese class

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744232
Mind sharing the wishlist? Mine is small so I'd like to add some things.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm only able to continue with studying nippon because I have absolutely nothing that would be a better use of time. I'm barely even interested in VNs/anime, Now it's mostly just for browsing japanese internet and understanding untranslated games.

Also I'm at about 2650 kanji, yet I still have about 100 of the jyouyou left. I only learn kanji when I see one I don't know while reading, so those 100~ are probably the most obscure of the jouyou.

Also, does anyone try to find example sentences and put them in anki? I've been doing this recently in an attempt to increase my output ability, not sure if it's actually worth the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744253
http://vndb.org/u6797/wish

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744263
Thanks, I'm going to write down some of these in the hopes that one day I will be able to read them.

[Anonymous No.]

I bought some LNs and manga early on in learning. I started reading the manga after a few months of learning, which made the rest of the learning extremely easy. Once you've read something in Japanese, no matter how easy, it proves that you are capable of doing it. Rather than putting off the actual use of the language, I jumped right in and the learning process itself motivated me forward.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know what to learn! I know there's kanji and hiragana, but I don't know what the hell taht is!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744347
It's not so hard, there's tons of guides/resources on the net, you just need to find them.

hiragana is probably the best start though

[Anonymous No.]

>>9744347
Google "Tae Kim"

[Anonymous No.]

I made up my own language when I was 12. I actually tried translating stories and newspaper articles into it
I wonder how much better my life would be now if I had spent all that time learning Japanese or some other language

[Anonymous No.]

Does Rosetta Stone work at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9746067
For listening maybe? It might work as a supplement to whatever you're studying.

For pretty much any other aspect of the language, you're better off looking elsewhere. Even for listening, I'd probably recommend using something you enjoy rather than something you have to force yourself to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9746067
No, because
>onnanoko
>kuruma
>hikouki
>mizu
200 times a day will leave you suicide and no more knowledgeable than before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9742120

That's pretty impressive actually. How long have you been doing that?

[Anonymous No.]

I've left myself with no other path to employment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9746067
Nope.

[Anonymous No.]

I went on /jp/ and reminded myself how terrible my life would be if I forever remained as another maladjusted shut-in with no hopes for the future due to not fitting into their native culture and consequently made moving to Japan my foremost life goal.

Now my motivation is to generally become more eloquent in the language.

[Anonymous No.]

Because I am apparently a neet now, so I feel incredibly uncomfortable when not doing anything useful, so I force myself to do some actual useful things, so right after I have learned latin properly I will start learning this lesser language, japanese, at the speed of a thousand parsecs :D

[Anonymous No.]

I recently lost a bit of motivation and stopped studying.

Oddly enough I retained a fair bit of what I had been learning.

Now I'm getting motivated again since I probably won't have much time for much else in life now that classes are starting- and Sony just destroyed my Ps3 with the 4.25 Update... So I won't have shit else but my Ps2 (which is japanese, thus I have nothing but jap games)

Also not interested in much music that isn't japanese.

Also want to play JP Games more and actually understand them..

So go figure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9747726
>>9746116
>>9746067


Exactly why doesn't RS work alone?

Also mind posting some things that do work?

Am I the only one who seems to have some trouble with all the other stuff as opposed to Rosetta Stone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9747776
It doesn't teach you the grammar rules properly, it doesn't even teach you the ABC of the language. It's a tool created to prepare people for a trip to Japan, maybe.
Imagine learning English without using the ABC, does that sound like a good idea?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9743092

Feel like I'm considering that now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9743092
>Ritalin
I used to take Concerta but it was ruining my life with all the side effects. After the bad experience I had with it, I'm reluctant about trying another drug. It's hard for me but I want to try sticking to it without resorting to drugs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9747783

... Hmmm. I can grasp what you're trying to say now. So is there any better way?

I really like Rosetta Stone's "japanese only" way of teaching. ._. It takes a special touch of english along with japanese if I'm being taught it through text and not audio/pictures. I'm absolutely horrible at being a bookie nerd that can just sit down with a textbook and absorb all the knowledge somehow - Am I fucking retarded or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9747792

oh my fucking god. Concerta is like a pill from hell.

How'd you like the Zombie Trip?

Fuck I'm almost shaking (I had a shit experience with it too)

[Anonymous No.]

>>9747796
You might be a little retarded but it's fine. If you're going to tackle self-study you might get stuck a lot on where to continue and starting isn't the easiest to do because there are a few methods that work differently for everyone.
For now, go to memrise and do one of the Kana courses.

After that looks for a "Daily Japanese" thread on /a/ or on the archive and read the OP. People might not like /a/ but that post does contain a lot of good information for beginners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9747799
There are too may side-effects for me to even begin with.
I don't think it helped me that much either. If I had to say, the best thing the pill did to me (only good thing actually) was that I could cum like a stallion.

I can feel that I'm having a hard time without it now but it's not worth it. Maybe I should look into Ritalin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9747803

I already know most of the Kana.

It's the vocabulary that I need to really get down, and grammar.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck, I did something like that too OP.
I just ended up figuring out all the controls and what I needed to do by going by how videogames normally are in a lot of things and what seemed effective, so I never learned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9747810

I wouldn't try another one of those fucked up ADHD/ADD meds. They seem like they're more for normal people to become concentrated mental machines instead of calming down hyperactive people.

Lucky normal folk pop one and become Einstein. Others? I don't even know. My mind just went hurdhuhduhala - almost literally. I couldn't think, I couldn't act, and it was like.... I don't even know. I can't begin to describe what that shit was like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9747824
I'm somewhere in the middle. I need to think about it some more before trying Ritalin.

[Anonymous No.]

Whenever you take a stimulant, you have to eat. A lot. Even if you don't feel hungry, make sure to eat a good breakfast with lots of protein and healthy snacks every two hours. You'd be surprised how hard they make your metabolism work. I have to at least have a breakfast of 800-1000 calories or it makes me feel like shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9747874
i can verify this, you feel really awful without food and you might even pass out. You wont actually feel hungry though which is the dangerous part.

[Anonymous No.]

I remind myself to study every day. Not that I always do it though. I need to pretend I'm in cram school more. Keeping doing otaku things helps. and avoiding western things.

[Frostline No.]

I could use some motivation...

I took 6 semesters of Japanese at my university but I feel like I barely know anything at all...

I'm kicking myself because despite wanting to learn Japanese forever, I never gave myself the proper amount of time to study. I'm not taking Japanese in my senior semesters because not only do I feel like I don't deserve to be there but my memory is shit and I couldn't have a conversation to save my life... (in Japanese I mean).

I got Rosetta stone, all 3 levels, and I also bought Soul Eater 1 and the latest Soul Eater manga out in America to motivate myself. (I've watched Soul Eater and figured if I was going to translate something it should be something I have an idea about of what's going on). Unfortunately... it hasn't motivated me at all. I started out using a dictionary and it's just painful... Figuring on reading the Japanese along side the English manga and trying that... but yeah.

I came to university this semester with a positive mindset for getting my work done and doing Rosetta stone but ... then a bunch of things got messed up and I've severely been lagging behind on my goals and prospects to the point where I've almost reverted to my old lazy self.

I could really use some motivation...

[Anonymous No.]

none of the meds you guys mentioned can be bought without a prescription.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9748850
Depending on where you live, getting a prescription is as easy as getting candy. Maybe even easier because they try to show them into everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9743652
Shit, I kind of forgot about this thread.
...How did you know? Is it really that obvious?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9748823
Make a list of shit you want to play read and stop using Rosseta Stone. I'm telling you this only because I love you as a person anon.
STOP USING ROSSETA STONE.

Read everything in the OP
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/67770465/#67770465

And pace yourself, of course you're going to lose motivation if you try reading something hard or not reading at all. Read something easy for start like Yotsubato, once you realize you can actually read instead of doing drills over and over again shit will get more fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9748823
Woah man, All of what i just read is horseshit. We all have things in life that drag us down, but that doesn't mean we can just give up.

You may say that you've reverted back to your old lazy self, But just think about all the other prospects in what you've achieved in the past 3 years. Just keep at it dude, I as an anon believe in you, and i think you can do great things, Just set your mind on the forward path and kick your old lazy self in the ass. Become a new man, prove to yourself you are worthy of living in your own skin. If times are rough, forget about them, These things happen to the best of us.

tl;dr : Stop being a faggot, Focus, Do great. I know you can.

[Frostline No.]

>>9749122
>http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/67770465/#67770465

Oh wow... I will have to read this and check the older threads linked and stuff. Thanks so much.

Also I haven't exactly started Rosetta stone so lol... easy to stop. Is it really that horrible?

I will check into Yotsubato also. I mean I was sort of on pace when I was taking classes at my university but being college classes and all they sort of ended up moving faster and faster as the semester progressed and it became harder to keep up or there was just too much material all at once.

I actually have ADHD and have been on meds for it since I was pretty young but I don't take it anymore despite still filling prescriptions. I really don't like being medicated but... when I don't take it I feel like I can't remember shit... My memory has always been pretty awful but it just gets worse when I don't take my meds. Problem is when I start taking my meds after a while of not I end up feeling like absolute shit for quite a while. Blah... I want to take it again for the sake of being able to remember what I study but I don't want to feel like a coke addict.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9749150
It's not bad if you're going to a trip in Japan and want to prepare yourself but it is bad for learning the language.
And I know about the agony of ADHD, but it just means you need to try harder, Once you have a regular routine of studying it might become easier.

頑張って！

[Frostline No.]

>>9749142

I definitely want to stop being a faggot. I pepped myself up heavily and was feeling great when the semester started a few weeks ago. I just got back from driving cross country (NY to Seattle) and I was in the zone. Then shit happened and I'm kind of in a rut. I've been working on it though but learning Japanese seems to be the bane of my existence despite my major being Asian American Studies with a focus on Japan..

:/

[Frostline No.]

>>9749158

If I don't study it religiously as in like all day every day for the rest of time, I won't be able to remember it in a few days. It's really horrible. I used to have an excellent memory but I don't really know what happened... Seems like it went south when I went to college... why the hell has college messed me up so much?

Shit... I used to be active in clubs and had friends and was studious and all that but now I'm like a border hikkikomori... I need to get my act together.

[Frostline No.]

Removed my last two posts cause I realized how much of a little bitch I sounded like.

Not anymore. After class I'm going to go through all those links and grab a notebook and just start getting shit done. No more excuses.

[Anonymous No.]

I still need to do my reps for today

[Frostline No.]

>>9747792
>>9747799

What side affects did you get on Concerta? I've been taking Concerta since I was like ...8 or younger and I'm 22 this year. My normal is 36 mg but I've been up to 54mg. The only negative affects i've faced (other than tripping balls and feeling like shit when I don't take it for a long period of time then start back again) is perhaps nail biting, slight anxiety? and little to no appetite, as in I have to force myself to eat.

Frankly, I'm sick of being medicated even though it helps me a lot especially with my memory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9749228
Do your god damn reps, anon.

>>9749245
No appetite
headaches
Insomnia
stomach ache
shaking
excessive sweating
overall shitty feeling
diarrhea

Also, taking Concerta from such an early age might have been what screwed your natural ability to concentrate.
How long has it been since you stopped taking Concerta? Either way I think you should consult a doctor if the situation really is as bad as you describe.

[Frostline No.]

>>9749267

I didn't have many headaches but I did have insomnia if I took my meds later than 9am everyday. Concerta is 12 hour time release so no matter what you do, if you take it late you'll be awake forcibly. If I take it after a time lapse I get the shaking, stomach ache, sweating, shitty feel. Never had intestinal problems.

You're probably right to some degree. I don't really have a problem concentrating at all it's just remembering things. I've relied on it for so long that I think my brain expects in whenever I learn something new. I've been off my meds for a couple of years though I have taken them occasionally during that period for perhaps a couple of days max before I quit again. I didn't want to go to college relying on meds but I think not taking them has screwed over a lot of my studying / test ability. I definitely have seen a decrease in my grades...

[Frostline No.]

>>9749290
>>9749267

Also I've talked to my doctor since then and he just tells me to start taking my meds again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9749296
Ask him for either a different kind of meds or find a different solution. Getting the advice of a different doctor is also a good idea. I've personally known doctors who push these things on kids that clearly don't need anything, fucking jews.

The problem with the meds is that they push it on eight year old children because they believe they are hyperactive but isn't it normal for children to be a little hype? the pills can ruin a lot of thing for the kids and it's such a damn shame parents go and shove pills into their kids easily like that.

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>>9749308

Well I mean I really did have problems focusing when I was little. Looking back I feel like the meds definitely helped but yes at the same time have messed me up as an adult. I fear being medicated for the rest of my life in order to be productive.

He's not just a doctor but a neurologist but I definitely feel like seeking a second opinion. I do feel however that now doctors just prescribe crap to kids whose parents say oh my kid doesnt do his work cant focus etc when say the kid is just disinterested in the topic or is just acting like a normal kid.

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How long difficult is grammar and when should I tackle it?

I'm going through vocab now and that's pretty easy, but when I see a sentence of text I can pick out a few words but for the most part I have the idea what the fuck I'm reading.

I would like to do grammar now, but is it too soon?

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Anyone got tips on a decent kanji Anki deck? I tried the Heisig one but there is no mention whatsoever of kunyomi and onyomi, and that makes it almost useless in my opinion.

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>>9749641
>is it too soon?
No, it is not. Usually I recommend doing grammar as soon as you know the kana, actually.

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>>9747792

Ritalin now, prison later.

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>>9749776
The Kanjidamage Plus deck with kanjiwords plugin.

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Question about /a/'s daily japanese threads. I went on yesterday at the apparent time and saw nothing. I found http://dailykanjiarchive.wordpress.com but I couldn't find the thread searching for it via archive foolz either...

Also today begins my first day of starting completely over with Japanese with the guides that you guys gave me. :) Will be posting progress either here or in /jp/

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>>9752068
Suk my cok weeblord

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By the way, how do you all do the daily kanji stuff via a notebook?

I tried writing it down in a book like the image is and then doing repetitions next to it but its just too cramped...

do you all have some sort of system going on already that works for writing the daily kanji/kana/reading in a notebook for repetitions?

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>>9748981
Only when you make it obvious.

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>>9752198

you are mom's pussy