http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/hashimoto-formally-launches-new-party-to-revive-glo rious-japan Uh oh, they're starting to return to "Glorious Nippon Bonzai" rhetoric. How long until the appeal Article 9?

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Anonymous Wed, Sep 12, 2012 18:17:36 No.9715951 [DELETED]

http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/hashimoto-formally-launches-new-party-to-revive-glo
rious-japan

Uh oh, they're starting to return to "Glorious Nippon Bonzai" rhetoric. How long until the appeal Article 9?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 12, 2012 18:21:07 No.9715957 That's good. I hope they rape the Chins like that one time.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 12, 2012 18:24:06 No.9715969 File: 40 KB, 240x240, 1341256440275.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9715951 Got a problem with that?

Anonymous Wed, Sep 12, 2012 19:10:29 No.9716059
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I have a feeling that Toru Hashimoto is a secret Zainichi......................

Is he?

Japanese politicians have always had strong comments and stances on the past invasions/occupancy, but for someone to make a new far right wing party at this time in Japan is unheard of.

We must also note that the far right wing nationalists that are in Japan today are also made up of and lead by fake Yakuza Zainichi. They try to trick people.

I feel as if that is Toru Hashimoto Zainichi, because he is taking this far right party on to another level.

It was quite typical for such parties to exist from right after post WW2 all the way through to late 1970's, but soon lost all large followings after that and were left with the small nationalist Yakuza Zainichi .

Source for the Yakuza Zainichi:
http://www.occidentalism.org/?p=243

Anonymous Wed, Sep 12, 2012 19:11:45 No.9716065

Maybe we can get some anime that isn't "Our glorious victories in WW2 when we were allied with USA", "Sci fi with obvious nuke references that shows our fear of being bombed again", "Appeal to American dollars", or "Pander to Otaku/Fujoshi/Moefags/Lolicons"

Once they get over that war and start growing balls again, the medium can expand to stories that aren't allegories for their loss. Maybe their birth rate will increase too and we can stop getting anime about humanity mysteriously disappearing.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 12, 2012 19:13:29 No.9716072 Can't they just give it another shot at taking over the world economically and through aggressive business strategies?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 12, 2012 19:19:31 No.9716090 >>9716065 Wait what are the shows where Japan teams up with the US?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 12, 2012 19:26:18 No.9716109 >>9716090 Have you ever actually seen Japanese media or are you a pure shitposter extraordinaire?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 12, 2012 19:31:05 No.9716125 >>9716109 It's better to be pleasant than clever.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 12, 2012 19:41:21 No.9716152 >>9716125 It's better to shut the fuck up and let people think you're a retard than post and confirm it

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 12, 2012 19:43:05 No.9716165 tryhard general

>>	Anonymous Wed, Sep 12, 2012 19:45:35 No.9716170 >>9716152 I thought we were playing the game where we don't address the person's post and just say erroneous things. Anyways, what are shows where Japan and the US teamed up?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 02:16:38 No.9717596 >>9716125 Can't say I disagree. The inherent problem with shitposters is that they are extremely unpleasant. You seem like a fellow who can take it easy without annoying the fuck out of everyone.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:47:04 No.9719158 >>9716170 G Gundam

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:49:22 No.9719164 Forgive my ignorance but what is Article 9?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:51:08 No.9719171 >>9719164 Militarization of Japan and sending forces abroad

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 12:51:38 No.9719170 The vast majority of nips who are not old farts don't like this whole grorious nippon crap. Party like that would have no future.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 13:03:41 No.9719207 File: 76 KB, 640x480, frontmission3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just make sure they don't get their hands on a nuclear weapon that leaves behind no radiation.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 13:08:26 No.9719220 >country full of inferior people >can ever be glorious

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 13:21:58 No.9719268 theyre asking for another nuke

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 13:40:15 No.9719333

>>9719164
Article in their constitution that prohibits them from having an actual military (they get around this by having a "self defense force" which is an extention of their police force). Also prohibits them from using war as a tool of foreign policy

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 13:45:46 No.9719343 I think that this time we should drop a few more nukes, just enough to sink the fuckin Honshu, so those shitty gooks stop thinking that they're hot shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 13:47:46 No.9719353 >>9719343 I think this time, they should nuke the US so that WE stop thinking we're hot shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 13:49:31 No.9719357 I think most people agree that Japan is stagnating in some way and it would be nice if they could regain some of their former dynamism. But right-wing politics seems like it only leads to dead ends.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 13:51:16 No.9719364 >>9719353 mad as fuck weeb. go join those gooks then. maybe they'll allow you to work your ass off as a slave on some factory.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 13:58:18 No.9719391 >>9719353 Cry more gook-lover.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:00:53 No.9719402 >>9719364 last I heard, japs are japs, not gooks. Gooks are viets and koreans, you cunt stain. lrn 2 racism

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:03:07 No.9719408 File: 35 KB, 380x461, nagasaki_nuclear_bomb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9719402

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:03:23 No.9719409

>>9719402
>last I heard
actually term "gook" used to be applied to all yellow monkeys during WW2. lrn2 history
they all look same so who gives shit? except for when we fight. then a special jap-detecting manuals are required so we won't kill our ally gooks.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:06:22 No.9719422

>>9716059

>but for someone to make a new far right wing party

It's not a far-right party. Learn to read.

>>9719170

>Party like that would have no future.

On the contrary. They very well may have a viable future, given that the DPJ is both hated and useless, and the LDP is the cause of 90% of Japan's current problems.

>>9719343

Troll or idiot or both? It's getting harder and harder to tell these days.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:07:22 No.9719423 >>9719402 Well, well ,well, what do we have here? A mad as fuck gookshit butthurt about being called gook! Go back to fields, riceboy.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:08:38 No.9719426 >>9719422 sup jap

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:09:38 No.9719430 This thread is no more intelligent than the guy it's supposed to ridicule.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:09:53 No.9719432 >>9719422 >LDP is the cause of 90% of Japan's current problems. The party was in power almost continuously for 54 years, so this statement is completely retarded.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:10:38 No.9719436 >>9719432 >The party was in power almost continuously for 54 years, so this statement is completely retarded. Please explain, I don't understand.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:11:38 No.9719440 >>9719422 >>>/a/ >>>/v/ >>>/int/ >>>/gaijinpot/ >>>/netuyo/ or whatever hole your crawled from, gooklover.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:14:23 No.9719447 >>9719436 It's like saying 90% of the problems in the United states are because of Republicans and Democrats.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:14:38 No.9719452 >>9719447 They are.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:15:39 No.9719454

>>9719426

Confirmed for idiot.

>>9719432

>The party was in power almost continuously for 54 years, so this statement is completely retarded.

Which % do you prefer? 85%? 95%? 82.6%? The fact is, the LDP is responsible for the majority of Japan's problems, with the situation exacerbated by the idiocy of the DPJ over the past ~3 years.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:16:08 No.9719456 >>9719452 But it's a stupid statement because they have been the only parties in power. You could just as easily say 90% of the good thing have been accomplished by Republicans or Democrats, therefore they are good parties.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:16:42 No.9719459 >>9719454 >>9719422 Go back to /int/ gook-lover.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:16:55 No.9719460 Japan doesn't want a military though. They already get one for free with the majority of the U.S fleet stationed in the pacific.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:18:40 No.9719463 [DELETED]

>>9719454
>LDP is responsible for the majority of Japan's problems

As well as the majority of the good things. I'd say having a country with the 3rd largest national economy is pretty good despite being an island with no natural resources is pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:19:55 No.9719466 >>9719454 >LDP is responsible for the majority of Japan's problems As well as the majority of the good things. I'd say having a country with the 3rd largest national economy despite being an island with no natural resources is pretty good.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:21:11 No.9719471

>>9719456
You have to take a look at who is responsible for what. Applauding Democrats and Republicans because technology in the US has advanced a lot in the past decades is stupid because they had nothing to do with it. Applauding (or castigating) Stalin because he brutally industrialized the Soviet Union makes sense because he's the one that engineered it. Presumably the person you were talking to has particular government policies in mind.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:25:11 No.9719481

>>9719471
>Applauding Democrats and Republicans because technology in the US has advanced a lot in the past decades is stupid because they had nothing to do with it.

Just as blaming the ruling party for things out of their control is stupid. Regardless, it's hard to claim that Japan isn't a successful country, and if the LDP was in power for 54 consecutive years I would say they have a pretty good record.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:25:26 No.9719482 File: 15 KB, 265x363, jap nukefries.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hey guys whats going on in here

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:31:27 No.9719500

>>9719456

Reading comprehension obviously isn't your strong point. Nor is common sense, it seems. I was originally responding to >>9719170 who for some reason believed the new party would have no future -- given the failures of both the DPJ and LDP it obviously has a good chance of a future (according to the article, it's already polling higher than both of them).

Face facts -- however competent the LDP may have been in the 50's through 80's they have been completely incompetent since. Japan's current precarious position can and should be laid directly at the door of the LDP.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:34:11 No.9719508
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>>9719500
Nice complete lack of an argument. Cope with the reality that blaming the only party that was in power for 54 years for everything bad is completely retarded. Japan is a very successful country and developed under the leadership of the LDP.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:35:56 No.9719510 Enjoy your fairyland getting militarized and no more VN/anime/etc, since those are banned in Glorious Dai Nippon Teikoku. That is until China occupies and exterminates japs.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:36:11 No.9719512 Why are foreigners debating about the political parties of a country they have never even visited?

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:38:11 No.9719517
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China should annex those dumb Nips before they try anything stupid again (remember Pearl Harbor, your damn right I do).
Never forget you're history, /jp/, for those who repeat history are doomed to forget it or something.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:38:26 No.9719518 >>9719512 Because this slant-eyed dweeb felt the need to defend his glorious nipponese country >>9719422.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:40:57 No.9719527 File: 121 KB, 922x692, USA 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9719517 Woah! That was kinda smart and awesome! fuck yeah!/100 post brother!

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:41:27 No.9719528 >>9719409 > so who gives shit? except for when we fight. then a special No it wasn't. It was first used during Korean war when AMerican soldiers mistook "mi gook" (for American) as "Me Gook".

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:41:57 No.9719534 >>9719508 >Nice complete lack of an argument. Your post was also completely devoid of content. In fact, it contained even less.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:42:12 No.9719536 >>9719517 lol, your shitty country is becoming more communist day after day

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:42:42 No.9719541 >>9719527 There is literally visible steam protruding from your rectum, weeb.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:42:57 No.9719545 >>9719512 Why do people debate history from a time in which they never lived? Because it's fun.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:44:12 No.9719551

>>9719518

It's really too bad there's no cure for stupid; you would have benefited tremendously from it. Oh well, I guess you'll have to stay the nasty little stupid asshole that everyone knows and hates.

>>9719508

So, you think everything has been hunky-dory in Japan, and the LDP has made significant contributions to the country/economy since the 1990's? Please tell us more, Mr. Ishihara.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:44:27 No.9719552 >>9719541 the steam of marlboro brand cigarettes.... and freedom

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:44:42 No.9719554 Japan should stop trying to pull this shit and just concentrate on making animus/games/2D stuff/other goods etc. as a good bitch-country.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:44:57 No.9719556

>>9719508
Germany developed under the leadership of the NSDAP and PRC developed under the leadership of Mao. You're making a huge generalization without addressing anything real. To be honest, it's like you're trying to thwart the discussion before it has even begun.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:44:57 No.9719557 All the problems in Japan occurred while gooks were running their own country, therefore America should run it for them.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:45:57 No.9719558 >>9719552 Amen to that my brother.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:47:57 No.9719567 ``Don't talk about things because it makes me feel stupid!'' 　　　　　　　　　－ Anonymous of 4chan, 2012

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:48:12 No.9719568 File: 13 KB, 500x333, bald_eagle_bird_MG0813.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9719541 I'm actually on your side, brother. Guess my post seemed ironic to you. In a wrong way, that is. Now that I reread it, it seems kinda that way.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:50:57 No.9719581

>>9719556
Are you seriously comparing a centrist Japanese party to a communist regime and the Nazis? It's a fact that Japan has the 3rd largest national economy, and seeing as how the LDP has been in power for almost 54 consecutive years, it's completely fair to say that Japan has been successful due to their leadership.

Any other flimsy arguments or is that all?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:52:57 No.9719591 >>9719581 LDP isn't in power anymore though

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:54:19 No.9719600 >>9719591 As of a couple years ago, and the country has gotten even worse since then.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:54:49 No.9719603 >>9716065 Mirai.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:55:04 No.9719612 >>9719581 My point was to show you that you're lumping unrelated things together. You're still doing it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:55:04 No.9719613 >>9719603 Welp, it's actualy Zipang, the ship is named Mirai. 10/10, tactical missile frigate operators operating operations operationally.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 14:57:34 No.9719620

>>9719581

Japan has been successful, in part due to the leadership of the LDP, from the 1950's to the late 1980's. Since the Japanese economic crisis of 1992, the LDP's corruption, lack of leadership, and poor policy-making have driven the country into an economic and social decline.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:00:34 No.9719629

>>9716065
What a load of bullshit.
Japan has produced a shit ton of media where it is portrayed as either a victim or a hero of WW2. Not to mention all those shitty netuyo pandering WW2 alt. scenario "Japan conquers the World" or NIPPON RISES AGAIN BANZAI DEATH TO WHITE DEVIL(Daiteikoku, Daiakuji etc) games&anime.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:00:34 No.9719630 >>9719612 Again your post is completely devoid of an argument. You can't blame the ruling party for all the problems and then when someone points out any success say "well Hitler was successful too".

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:02:49 No.9719639 File: 132 KB, 600x385, obama slave.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Speaking of politics, we really need to get this smug commie piece of shit out of office.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:03:19 No.9719640 >>9719639 sup kike

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:03:34 No.9719643 >>9719630 Are you part of some sort of LDP IDF? You seem to lack all objectivity in this discussion.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:04:49 No.9719648 File: 37 KB, 275x385, mitt romney and ann romney.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9719639 A vote for Mitt Romney is a vote for restoring tradition and prosperity to America.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:05:19 No.9719650 File: 17 KB, 300x341, ukretard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9719640

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:06:19 No.9719654 >>9719648 >Support Israel

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:06:34 No.9719656 >>9719648 They are a cute couple, I wish the youth of today were more like them.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:08:19 No.9719663 >>9719654 Who are you quoting? Please take your anti-semitism back to /pol/. /jp/ is a Christian board and we have close ties to the Jewish people and the state of Israel.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:08:49 No.9719665 >>9719656 Friendly reminder: You are the youth of today; if you want to change the youth you must first change yourself, Anonymous.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:09:19 No.9719666

>>9719630
I think everyone is sane enough to understand that. In the spirit of nitpicking, I must note that 90% doesn't equate with 'all'. The guy could have had something to say but you were the one who had to blaze in preaching that it's childish to blame successful groups of people.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:09:50 No.9719669 >>9719663 >Christian >close ties to the Jewish people pick one

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:11:05 No.9719677 >>9719665 I'm pretty sure nobody on /jp/ goes clubbing or listens to lil wayne. Being a NEET is a natural reaction to a society in decay, not the cause.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:11:35 No.9719681 >>9719669 In their defense, christians have no reason to trust jews after the stunt they pulled in the 7th century when they betrayed, enslaved and slaughtered an entire city. This is the reason why semitism exists.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:12:05 No.9719690 >>9719681 What? Jews were persecuted by Christians since the Roman empire.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:12:50 No.9719688

Are you seriously just finding out about this? This has been going on for a while, and it's pretty CRAZY. There hasn't been this type of guy in Japanese politics for a while, if these guys get power they're going to bring in a ton of conservatives from that dedicated political school.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:15:07 No.9719700 >>9719690 And not without reason.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:15:22 No.9719703

>>9719666

Thanks for this (and trips don't lie). I've pointed out in subsequent posts the exact problem with the LDP, but he hasn't responded even once, hence my belief that he's some sort of LDP shill. You won't see any real discussion and/or conversation from him as he's incapable of taking off the partisan blinders.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:15:22 No.9719704

>>9719688
The far-right is rising again. Golden Dawn is polling at over 10% in Greece, and they recently raided a marketplace and destroyed all stands owned by illegal immigrants. Soon marxism will be destroyed and the fourth reich will rise, it will be glorious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhJntEn4ddA

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:16:37 No.9719710 >>9719700 Back to /pol/ with you, stormfaggot. Nobody's interested in your shit here.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:16:53 No.9719711 >>9719690 and the Roman Empire was one of the greatest empires in history. Checkmate, jew.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:17:37 No.9719715 >>9719703 Calling me an LDP shill isn't an argument. I just realize the objective success of the party, unlike you who seems to be ready to oust them because of a relatively short period of economic hardship.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:18:08 No.9719720 File: 33 KB, 413x437, 1344629264401.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9719711 Gentiles get extremely upset when Jews start to rule over them because of our exceedingly high intellect and use us as a scapegoat like Hitler did.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:22:24 No.9719731 >>9719704 I await the Reich, I however don't want to see content posted from inferior countries here. I hate those "people" so much, I hate them like I hate the Jews.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:24:09 No.9719740 >>9719731 >Greeks >inferior The greatest empire that the world has ever known would like a word with you.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:24:10 No.9719747

>>9719715

>Calling me an LDP shill isn't an argument.

You're right. It's not an argument, it's a statement of fact.

>I just realize the objective success of the party,

"Objective"? I don't think you know what that word means. Your problem is that you're completely unwilling/unable to admit the LDP's many failures.

>unlike you who seems to be ready to oust them

Oust them? They're not in power now. What's to oust them from? In any case, I merely pointed out -- whether you like it or not -- that the failures of both the LDP and the DPJ have allowed this new third party to begin to rise.

>because of a relatively short period of economic hardship.

20 years, with no relief in sight, is a "relatively short period"? It's statements like this that (once again) show your incredible partisanship.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:24:39 No.9719743 >>9719715 Twenty years is not a short period of time unless you're talking to a geologist.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:27:11 No.9719757

>>9719715
>unlike you who seems to be ready to oust them because of a relatively short period of economic hardship.
Are you seriously trying to say that major political parties need to be treated with silk gloves? They hold serious power and they deserve criticism for every error they make. That's how and why democracy works.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:30:13 No.9719763

>>9719740
If their Empire was so great, like the Romans why did their Empires fall, and not carry over to make them the super powers of today? Many countries had their time when the were the strongest Empires around, but they never reached the proportional strength of, England, France (at one point only), China (Qing Dynasty), Japan, Spain, Russia, Germany, or Mongol Empire

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:31:43 No.9719769 >>9719740 That was the past. Nowadays they are the ghetto of Europe. Besides, the British Empire was greater in terms of land mass and population. Not sure how the Greeks were the best Empire.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:32:27 No.9719773 >>9719740 Are you autistic? They're were barely even on the map.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:32:42 No.9719774 >>9719757 >they deserve criticism for every error they make They also deserve praise for their success, and I'd say that a party that stays in power for 54 years has a pretty good track record. Please come back to reality.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:34:12 No.9719781 >>9719757 >democracy >works >>9719774 Then you should praise them for their successes instead of wailing about how people who blame them for Japan's current state are insane or retarded.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:35:42 No.9719786 >>9719747 >partisan >LDP shill http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:37:58 No.9719798 File: 10 KB, 717x427, GRORIOUS EMPIRE.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why are you guys such faggots? I for one support the rise of imperial Japan, hopefully they kill all Korean dogs so I don't have to hear one more Kpop song.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:41:12 No.9719809 >>9719774 Go praise them at your local LDP fan club, then. >Please come back to reality. This what I'd like to say to you. Hard politicians don't need a single bit of childlike irrational sympathizing.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:41:13 No.9719812 >>9719798 Yes, they need to fix their immigration laws, and oust the Chinese, and Koreans. They to restore power to the Emperor, and bring Japan back to its former glory. 天皇、万歳。

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:42:28 No.9719814 File: 6 KB, 323x298, Students-No-Bully-Zone.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9719809

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:44:28 No.9719822 File: 365 KB, 433x599, koizumi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reminder that the greatest prime minister is Japanese history was a member of the LDP.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:45:28 No.9719827

>>9719786

>partisan: If you can't admit a single fault of the LDP, you're an LDP partisan. This is a statement of fact.

>LDP shill: If you post in a public forum to defend the LDP, refuse to listen to any criticism of the LDP, and promote the interests of the LDP, you're a shill. Again, this is a statement of fact.

>ad hominem: Another term that you don't understand. Show me a single instance ITT of "because you're X everything you say is wrong."

As I posted above, you lack all common sense and perspective. I feel sorry for you, in a way -- you're really pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:47:13 No.9719833 >>9719822 Koizumi was a failure. He had the popularity and the mandate to effect real change in Japan -- which sorely needed it -- and he did nothing of any substance.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:47:13 No.9719837

If you actually wanted to make a convincing point, you could argue that:

1. The LDP is responsible for the great performance of the Japanese post-war economy, but
2. The economic slump of the past two decades is due to structural problems (or anything else, really) rather than LDP policies.

Wailing about how people are retarded isn't going to get you anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:47:58 No.9719836 File: 8 KB, 300x300, 1346517469284.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9719827 >you're really pathetic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem Come back when you have a substantive argument.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:49:28 No.9719842

>>9719836
You haven't presented a substantive argument in the last four or five replies either, the best being "a party that stays in power for 54 years has a pretty good track record" and "I just realize the objective success of the party." Just shut the fuck up about demanding replies with content already.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:49:59 No.9719843
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>“He has gone out of his way to say that sexual slaves in wartime was a fiction,” Nakano said, referring to Hashimoto’s remark that there was no evidence Japan’s Imperial Army forced Korean and other Asian women to work at military brothels.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:52:13 No.9719853

>>9719842
That's because LDP is an empirically successful political party, in fact it's one of the most successful parties in the entire democratic world. You're the one who is claiming otherwise, so the burden of proof is on you. When you have an argument that doesn't consist of calling me a shill or denying reality, I'll be happy to listen.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:54:13 No.9719858

>>9719853
The original argument was that "the problems of modern Japan can largely be laid at the feet of the LDP," because they were the ones in power for the last two decades, or something like it.

"You are retarded" and "if you assess the performance of the LDP over the last sixty years, they are a success" do not even dispute this point.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 15:59:44 No.9719871

>>9719858
"It is one of the most consistently successful political parties in the democratic world. The LDP ruled almost continuously for nearly 54 years from its founding in 1955 until its defeat in the 2009 election.[7] Prior to 2009, the party had only been out of power for a brief 11 month period between 1993 and 1994."

That sure looks like objective success to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 16:00:59 No.9719875 >>9719853 >That's because LDP is an empirically successful political party, in fact it's one of the most successful parties in the entire democratic world. You're the one who is claiming otherwise Stop twisting things or post in other threads.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 16:01:14 No.9719876

>>9719858

Give it up, my friend. You won't get any reasonable response from him. His mind is as closed as closed can be; he has zero objectivity. As posted above, he's a shill for the LDP and/or completely blind to reality and/or a troll. I don't think there's any other explanation for his incredible obtuseness.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 16:02:44 No.9719882 >>9719876 >>9719858 Stop agreeing with yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 16:03:14 No.9719887 >>9719871 All this says is that they're successful in being reelected. It says nothing about their success in guiding the Japanese polity or economy (hint: they've been failing here for decades).

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 16:03:14 No.9719888

>>9719876
I'm somewhat irritated because the discussion went into total shit territory after the "this statement is completely retarded" post. I also don't know when to give up.

>>9719871
That's great, but has nothing to do with the post you were responding to.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 16:03:59 No.9719891 >>9719882 Two people are arguing with you, fool.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 16:05:29 No.9719899 >>9719891 Three.

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 16:06:29 No.9719901

>>9719888

>I'm somewhat irritated because the discussion went into total shit territory after the "this statement is completely retarded" post. I also don't know when to give up.

Same here. But there comes a point when you have to realize you're arguing with someone who's incredibly stupid and/or a troll, and that nothing -- literally nothing -- you say or do will change the fact that he's incredibly stupid and/or a troll.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 16:06:44 No.9719902 >>9719887 So I'm supposed to believe that despite being democratically elected for 54 years in a row, they are really a terrible party responsible for all of Japan's problems? It must be difficult being so delusional, how do you cope?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 16:07:59 No.9719904 >>9719901 I thought he was just stupid before but within the last two or three posts I've revised my assessment to troll, so I'm not going to respond anymore.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 16:09:14 No.9719910 File: 16 KB, 300x300, 1346517469285.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9719888 >>9719901 >incredibly stupid >troll http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 16:09:45 No.9719913 File: 59 KB, 1130x678, 1340376603873.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] MUH HOLOCAUST

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 16:09:45 No.9719914

>>9719899

Three, then. It's a good start! So, let's the three of us discuss something actually interesting and useful. The Japanese economy has been moribund for the past two decades. Given this fact, plus Japanese demographics, plus the regional and international economic/political scene, do you think Japan has any chance to again grow its economy in a meaningful way?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 16:10:44 No.9719915 >>9719910 >>9719913 Why don't you two go outside and play together? I think you have a lot in common.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 16:10:59 No.9719918 File: 298 KB, 600x600, 1340373047680.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9719517 >>9719527 Good, good. JIDF is already here in full force.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 16:31:10 No.9719918,1 All I wanted to do is discuss Japanese politics in an off-topic thread. But it wasn't to be.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 21:01:11 No.9719918,2 >>9719918,1 Not saying your thread isn't shit and shouldn't be deleted, but what's with the influx of jews haters here now?

Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 21:35:46 No.9719918,3 [INTERNAL]

>>9719918,2
Don't act like this is anything new. Do some archive searching. The Jew hatred on 4chan goes back years, because real-world Jew hatred has been going on for millennia.
People just like to bring it up because there are some very real conspiracies at play, and everyone has a strong opinion about it. SEE ALSO: religion, circumcision, feminism.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 22:22:44 No.9719918,4 >Don't act like this is anything new. I stopped visiting /jp/ regularly during 2011 and before that the most jew trolling I witnessed was about Anonymous Jones (which I believe it was a tongue-in-cheek joke). It wasn't like this when I left.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Sep 13, 2012 23:16:42 No.9719918,5 >>9719918,4 That wasn't a joke. Jones is literally a zionist.

>>	Sakura !RAILgUnr8s Fri, Sep 14, 2012 02:54:38 No.9719918,6 >>9719918,4 Jones is a Jew who emigrated to America from Israel. No joke about it.

Anonymous Fri, Sep 14, 2012 06:38:54 No.9719918,7 [INTERNAL]

>>9719918,5
>>9719918,6

My point being that it never got beyond that. No one was writing 10 page long issues on their favorite touhou and why they hate kikes back then.

I'm not a jew by the way. In fact I sympathize with the palestinian. But I don't like seeing stormfront crap in /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Sep 14, 2012 09:03:28 No.9719918,8 >>9719918,7 jewdar.jpg

Anonymous Fri, Sep 14, 2012 10:03:42 No.9719918,9 [INTERNAL]

>>9719918,7
We've always--for better or for worse--shared a lot of our userbase with /prog/. Go to /prog/ right now, and also check out /prog/ at any point from 2008 onwards. I suspect it's largely the same people, but they always put more effort into their posts on /prog/ because there's way less moderation.

Also, the "favorite Touhou and why you hate kikes" thing is just spam from a certain poster who wants to make a name for himself.

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