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9690709 No.9690709 [Reply] [Original]

If everything we experience in life is just essentially a creation of our mind then why can't we make our mind see what we want to see instead of what is really there?

The brain gets signals from the eye and it assembles the images that we see based on this, but anyone who has ever dreamed before knows that the eye is not needed to see things and the mind can fabricate entire worlds for you to see just as vividly as the world we see now. The same applies to the other senses.

So why can't I consciously take control of my brain so that it can create what I want to see and feel instead of what is really there? Why can't I be talking to Reimu right now and see her standing next to me? It's not outside the capabilities of the mind, but the brain is a bully and it won't let me see anything that it doesn't think is real. How do I stop its bullying?

>> No.9690720

*Kicks thread*

Refuted thus.

>> No.9690727
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9690727

hur dur, cause we don't have the technology yet?

>> No.9690723

Is this Tulpa General?

>> No.9690724

>>9690709
Tulpa thread?

>> No.9690740

>>9690709
Dream more.

Alternatively, consume psychoactive drugs.

>> No.9690777

You already can through drug use. The effects start to become permanent after using them very often.

Deliriant drugs in particular can produce these effects.

>The delirium produced is characterized by stupor, utter confusion, confabulation, and regression to "phantom" behaviors such as disrobing and plucking. Other commonly reported behaviors include holding full and life like conversations with imagined people, finishing a complex, multi-stage action (such as getting dressed) and then suddenly discovering you had not even begun yet, and being unable to recognize one's own reflection in a mirror.
>holding full and life like conversations with imagined people

Think intensely about Reimu for about an hour so your mind is focused on her in particular and then take some DPH. Probably will see her.

Benadryl has DPH in it, so just read about it on erowid to prepare yourself, go buy some benadryl at the grocery store, and you'll be talking to imaginary people in no time.

>> No.9690790

>>9690727

We do though, it's just in plants and other drugs.

The only thing technology could do is make this process less heavy handed. It's like opening a locked box. Right now we can open it with a sledgehammer (drug use or sensory deprivation) and maybe in the future we will invent a lockpick (technology) to open the box in a more civilized and controlled way.

The only difference will be that technology can do this whole thing a lot more comfortably and faster, but it's still possible to do it today.

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>>9690709
imagination.
lucid dreaming.

results depend on the level of mindfulness

>> No.9690862

If you want to reshape the mind then you must first break it.

>> No.9690868

I've tried before OP. Your mind is one of the most immovable objects that you can ever try to move. It won't be easily manipulated.

Fucking bastard, makes me want to crush it even harder now. It'll be that much sweeter when I finally dominate this fat immovable fuck of a mind.

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9690878

>>9690777

>Deliriant

These drugs can be terrifying. It's the whole reason that I pee in bottles.

One time I was tripping on DPH and I got up to go to the bathroom and as I turned the corner into the hallway I saw a man with a crazy ear to ear grin poking his head out from inside the bathroom.

I froze in terror and urinated in my pants right then and there. Ever since I have peed in bottles to avoid going to the bathroom.

>> No.9690884
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9690884

>why can't I consciously take control of my brain so that it can create what I want to see and feel instead of what is really there?
NO. EVOLUTIONARY. BENEFIT.

harsh reality

>> No.9690887

>>9690878
That does sound pretty scary. Even then, I still want to try it. I'm sure if I have the courage to face the most fucked up part of my imagination and come through it alright I'll get something out of it.

I'm not sure what that something would be but it'll be something.

>> No.9690996

>>9690884

Sounds more like an evolutionary disadvantage to me

Time to turn back the clock and start breaking some of these "benefits" up in the noggin.

>> No.9691003

All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves.

>> No.9691008

>>9690996
>Sounds more like an evolutionary disadvantage to me
I suspect escapism would only be neat until the individuals who develop the mutation stop participating in the real world, or the real world does something nasty to them while they're escaping. Then, the mutation is removed from the gene pool for a while.

>> No.9691023

>>9690996
That's what it says. There is no evolutionary benefit in hanging out in imaginary worlds.

>> No.9691078 [DELETED] 

>>9691003
Hi, I posted that quote in that thread the other day. I'm glad to see that you find it interesting to pass on.

>> No.9692049

>>9690884
>>>9690709 (OP)
"No evolutionary benefit?" That's not necessarily true. Imagine if animals could see reality as something exciting, rewarding, and worth engaging in. In fact, I'd bet the more people see the authentic harshness of reality, the more they'd reject interacting with it...hence becoming introverted shut-ins.

>> No.9692068

>>9690884
Fantasy escapism wouldn't always imply laying comatose in a dream-like stupor. What if you could see many of the unpleasant work-tasks in life as something like a fun & challenging video game? Or feel it as a pleasurable sexual act?

If mastering academic subjects and excelling as a model employee felt like engaging in ecstatic intimate sexual intercourse we would probably live in a world of people really applying themselves in their communities, rather than feeling drained and wanting nothing more than to stay inside on WoW and porn or whatever..

>> No.9692079

The world exists, we just don't know if what we see is accurate because our senses aren't objective.

>> No.9692112

>>9690709
There is away to escape, but unfortunately, any individual who enters this state is labeled as clinically insane. If you escape into a fantasy world people will see your body left behind neither live nor dead but in a state of insanity. The only true way to escape this world is to leave the body behind while one's mind has escaped so that it is no longer connected to this world.

In other words, kill yourself.

>> No.9692146

>>9692068
That's a very interesting appreciation... it'd be similar to fantasy escapism because you'd be deluding yourself to be happier, but at the same time you'd be connected to the real world and be a productive member of society

>> No.9692924

>>9690777
>finishing a complex, multi-stage action (such as getting dressed) and then suddenly discovering you had not even begun yet

fuck, I do that just about every time I wake up

then I realize I'm not awake yet and it takes me about 4 hours to get out of this cycle

>> No.9692974

It's because you don't try hard enough OP. You have to start with daily meditation to improve your focus and eventually you will have the power. I've been starting with 30-60 minutes a day of meditation.

>> No.9693016

>>9690709
You could really. It goes without saying that, with enough 'effort' one can really do just about anything when it comes to the imagination. Obviously through the consumption of some drugs might be the most immediate go-to besides dreaming. Though this isn't to say that it is the only case.

Insanity although quite rare is one given instance in which the mind works differently from what we would consider normal. Madness is an involuntary action really, but the idea that someone can break away from the restrictions that you present are certainly there. In theory anyways, and I'm sure in time we will be able to scientifically develop other methods of this. I don't doubt that, if a concentrated effort of some magnitude was put forth correctly, one could imitate effects like touch, feel, smell, etc to some degree. I don't know if this would be necessarily healthy however...

>> No.9693071

>>9690799
This, but it takes a lot of time, practice, and dedication to really be able to have the sort of freedom OP wants.

If he really wants to force it, he can try DMT.

>> No.9693088

>>9693071
The human brain can produce DMT by itself. With enough practice you can have FREE DMT.

>> No.9693120

>>9690709

If you were able to do that, it'd be an evolutionary disadvantage, so such abilities has not developed.

>> No.9693270

Sniff glue or white-out.

>> No.9693307

>>9692068
There was an episode of Sliders like that.

>> No.9693327

>>9693307
>>9692146
>>9692068
That is, they had people hooked into a virtual reality system like that, except that was (mostly) an illusion itself.

>> No.9693334
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9693334

>If everything we experience in life is just essentially a creation of our mind then why can't we make our mind see what we want to see instead of what is really there?
Maybe that's exactly what we're doing, and we don't realize it. Maybe everything that happens to us, good or bad, is in actuality the result of our most inner wants and desires. Maybe everything we perceive is just make-believe, and horrible things that happen to us is actually our subconscious wanting to punish itself.

>> No.9693356

I'm more interested in death. Life can go fuck itself. Always life, life, life, what happens AFTER life? Nobody ever wrote a book about that. Well they did, but then it was about playing house at God's or dining in HELL. Shitty fanfics about roaming the earth as a ghost or similar disappointments. Is there no new bold idea about what DEATH really is?

>> No.9693382

>>9693356
Yes, and there have been for literally millennia. I doubt it would appeal to your teenage brain, though. You want omgsodarkO_O bullshit, but nothing mainstream so you can feel superior. I KNOW YOUR TYPE, KID.

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>>9693356
>what happens AFTER life?
That's a pretty dumb question.

>Is there no new bold idea about what DEATH really is?
No, because we already know what death is. It's the opposite of life. For humans, it's when the body ceases to operate.

>> No.9693413

>>9693356

When you die then you return the universe in your true form which is pure energy.

>> No.9693422

>>9693413
>true form
The fuck is that supposed to mean?

>> No.9693417

>>9693413
>>9693413
>>9693413

>> No.9693420
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>>9693413
That's deep, bro.

>> No.9693426

How is this otaku culture?
Why did you deleted the homu thread and the nanking thread but not this one, janitor?

>> No.9693432

>>9693386
What is life, then? This isn't even a hugely DEEP question, because it matters when you get to the realm of the very small or the very large. The Earth can maintain homeostasis, grow, respond to stimuli, and so on. Is the Earth a living creature? Hippie nerds who believe the "Gaia hypothesis" think so, and you can apply the same to the Solar System or even the Universe itself.

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>>9693382
>>9693386
Again, you're not really THINKING outside of the box, which is LIFE. You're trapped in using life as the norm and averaging an estimate on what death COULD BE based on it, yet you've never really BEEN dead, so you lack the proper knowledge to even utter a word on the subject. It's not about being darknedgy, it's about going to that last tusk of land that has never been charted which is the land of the DEAD.

>> No.9693452

>>9693422

The universal energy that binds us all together. We are all the same thing. I am you and you are me.

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>>9693440
Next time I see a dead person, I'll ask their thoughts on what it's like, just for you.

>> No.9693460

>>9693432
>What is life, then?

Straight from Wikipedia:

"Life is a characteristic that distinguishes objects that have signaling and self-sustaining processes from those that do not, either because such functions have ceased (death), or else because they lack such functions and are classified as inanimate. Biology is the science concerned with the study of life.

Any contiguous living system is called an organism. These animate entities undergo metabolism, maintain homeostasis, possess a capacity to grow, respond to stimuli, reproduce and, through natural selection, adapt to their environment in successive generations. More complex living organisms can communicate through various means. A diverse array of living organisms can be found in the biosphere of Earth, and the properties common to these organisms—plants, animals, fungi, protists, archaea, and bacteria—are a carbon- and water-based cellular form with complex organization and heritable genetic information."

There you go, that's life.

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>>9693452
AND WE ARE ALL TOGETHER
GOO GOO G'JOO

>> No.9693469

>>9693452
Dude, we're already energy, dumbass. We're a compilation of energy, and mass, which is compressed energy. Everything is essentially energy, so saying we return to being energy, is redundant.

>> No.9693470

>>9693460
Read further down, particularly the "Definition" section. In fact, read the sources it cites. Even Wikipedia points out that there's no universal definition, and we have to bend the rules a little and it's all very controversial. Life isn't as black or white as our ancestors thought.

>> No.9693480

>>9692112
Not yet.

(1) There might be nothing after death. I don't think so, but it's possible, in which case I want to make the most of my existence

(2) If there are better worlds after death it's probably best to finish your physical lifecycle in order to learn as much as you can, develop spiritual strength and control, etc. I just finished reading a book called "Lifecycles" by Christopher M. Bache. I take that kind of writing with a grain of salt, and I think those new-agers tend to be a bit overly optimistic about the divinity of life since they're usually making a decent living off their books and surrounded by friends and supporters and husbands/wives. Nontheless there's a lot of wisdom to be found.

If you kill yourself you won't be exiting or escaping, you'll be setting yourself back a ways and have to deal with more of the same of life's bullshit and then some. I highly recommend refraining from self-annihilation. Whatever awaits after death, if anything, there is probably something you're supposed to gain from your physical state.

>> No.9693483

>>9693470
It can be as black or as white or as green as you want it to be.

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>>9693454
Please do, being in life again they could probably communicate their ideas of death better. You could keep an eye on this one if you're at loss for just who to turn to.

>> No.9693492

>>9693483
Then where's the cut-off point?

Face it: life and death is a ~*~sPeCtRuM~*~

>> No.9693493

>>9693356
>what happens AFTER life?
We rot.

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>>9693480
What if the lesson I was supposed to learn was to not kill myself?

>> No.9693498
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9693498

It's actually impossible to die.

I know this for a fact since I experienced it myself. I was pissing once and I died, it was very sudden, it had to do with my heart and some drugs I was on at the time, but the strange part is that I didn't know that I died.

Time continued on as if nothing had happened. I finished pissing, I left the bathroom, I sat back down at the computer, and things were normal, but suddenly I was yanked back into my old body and I was surrounded by paramedics.

What happened was that my heart stopped while I was pissing and I collapsed and died right there. They brought me back, but if they hadn't then I would have continued to go on living in that other timeline.

You can't actually die. As far as I can tell as soon as you die then your consciousness is immediately transferred to an alternate universe where you didn't die and it will do that forever. Everyone who has ever been born is still alive today, but they're in some crazy alternate universe that's nothing like our own. Right now we're in another dimension, I'm sure I have died countless times before today but for whatever reason I only got a glimpse behind the curtain that one time.

>> No.9693505

I suppose this is a dangerous and juvenile way of thinking, but does anyone else think "scientific" death is, in its own way, Heaven? I mean, if you want to go to Gensokyo, that want will go away once you got there or once it goes away by other means. Dead people don't want anything. They don't have desires or drives or fears or stress or good days or bad days or any of that. It's all just removed. Of course, you're not around to feel any of it, but in a way I think that's the best state you could be in.

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>>9693498
Thats kinda cool

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>>9693498
Oh man, I'm saving this one.

>> No.9693511

>>9693498
Sounds pretty neat. Do we all go to the same alternative universes?

Just killed myself now, if any /jp/ers are reading this, then you did too.

>> No.9693516

>>9693505
This has already been discussed at length. Please refer to: Nietzsche

>> No.9693521

>>9693515
Can you at least save it in one of the default themes?

Call me crazy, but I think this should be default behaviour for screencapping.

>> No.9693526

>>9693498
I don't believe you. Brb gonna go commit Sudoku to see if this is true.

>> No.9693530

>>9693492
There isn't one.

>> No.9693535

>>9693120
Such "abilities" have developed, though they are more mutations or disabilities. There are varying degrees of autism or schizophrenia. The majority of people with autism usually have a more difficult time fitting in with society. Indeed they are at a disadvantage. A rare percentage of autistics discover unique advantages within themselves that normal people would not have, such as Einstein and his genius.

Perhaps as civilization develops it will be able to better accomodate people whose minds linger more in realms of fantasy, as it already has a bit. At least right now in history those who were labeled "feeble-minded" in ages past and cast into cold stone cells to rot on a pile of hay while screaming through the nights are, today, better taken care of, treated, not lobotomized (although pharmecuticals can be as caustic), and sometimes allowed to thrive in their dream worlds.

In fact perhaps some individuals who are borderline autistic may even be able to thrive, going about day to day lives and then retiring to their parents' basements or wherever, and entering another universe of endless possibilites, due to the wild lack of division between fantasy and reality in their minds.

If we can get a handle on being "borderline insane," and recognize and respect reality, perhaps we could be happier and more productive or utopian as a species?

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>>9693521
You're crazy! Is this the way you prefer it? The other one is way easier on the eyes, though.

>> No.9693540

>>9693516
Almost mentioned him, but everyone takes a depressing, pessimistic view on it. Same with that other dude (Schopenhauer? I need to start reading again)

I guess it's kind of similar to the Buddha idea that living is suffering, but I personally think that however you satiate a desire, it's equivalent to any other way. Like if you scratch an itch or it goes away naturally, the itch is gone. If you want to go to Gensokyo and fug Rumia, whether you physically go there or just die and all your cognitive functions cease, it's the "same" thing. I don't get why people need to comfort themselves with ideas of afterlives and whatnot.

>> No.9693546

>>9693516
Neitzsche was a mentally ill NEET whose syphilis-induced rantings were compiled into book form by his sister, who made up enough to make them sound semi-coherent and deleted the parts that made it obvious how crazy he was.

>> No.9693550

>>9693546
He also spent all his time playing with dolls. If he lived today, he would probably own a lot of figurines.

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>>9693546
You're forgetting his connections to the bitchin' rock star of the era, Richard Wagner. Now there was a cool dude.

>> No.9693554

>>9693546
It's strange how people revere the mentally ill after they're dead. Please refer to: Einstein, Jesus, and Buddha

>> No.9693555

>>9693535
>such as Einstein and his genius
First of all, Einstein is said to have been an asperger. Asperger != autist. Also, there is no proof that he was actually an asperger, that's just speculation, he was never actually diagnosed.

>> No.9693558

>>9693555
Asperger syndrome is an autism spectrum disorder, that is, it's a form of autism. Aspergerians are autistic just as paraplegics are disabled.

>> No.9693559

>>9693554
Einstein was not mentally ill, and Jesus never existed.

>> No.9693565

>>9693558
>Asperger syndrome is an autism spectrum disorder
That is true, but it's not actually referred to as autism. Also, not all aspergers are disabled. I should know, I am one.

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>>9693498

>> No.9693589

>>9693554

The mentally ill are like seers that can see into two worlds simultaneously.

Sometimes it's mild enough that they just have an odd personality with strange thoughts and other times, like with schizophrenics, they really do visually see the other world.

Think of sanity as a cocoon that we're all wrapped up in which keeps up grounded in what we perceive as reality, but mentally ill people have a few slits in their cocoon and they can get glimpses of what's outside of the cocoon.

>> No.9693590

>>9693565
I just wanted to make the case for something being a subset of something else, and I couldn't think of any good examples.

I think DSM-5 will clear a few things up. What you're presumably referring to, autistic disorder, is being lumped in with Asperger's disorder under the umbrella of "autism spectrum disorder". That is, you can now be diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder (as opposed to *an* autism spectrum disorder).
Most of the autistic disorder traits existed in other disorders anyway, most obviously mental retardation (whatever we're calling that now).

Don't be ashamed to be autistic. You have the same genetic abnormalities and symptoms as the people you would consider to be "properly autistic", you just don't have things as bad.

>> No.9693601

>>9693590
>Don't be ashamed to be autistic
Implying that I am?

>> No.9693606

>>9693601
I can see that, bumping with a grammatically incorrect sentence like that.

>> No.9693616

Giveherledick-Kun general?

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>>9693606
>grammar indicates shame
Are you serious? You can't be serious.

>> No.9693628

>>9693623
You don't need to overcompensate by posting like an actual guido.

>> No.9693634

>>9690709
what you're seeing here an autist
>>9690777
this is a super autist
>>9692068
this is what is known as a super autist that has ascended beyond a super autist or you could just call this a super autist 2
>>9693498
and this is to go even further beyond

>> No.9693629

>>9693623
Who are you quoting?

>> No.9693640

>>9693628
>overcompensate
I... what are you... do you even know what that word means?

>>9693629
I'm paraphrasing him.

>> No.9693647

>>9693640
Yes. You're posting like you just arrived from /v/.

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>>9693616
Too bad he still believed in the real world with the God asspull.

>> No.9693655

>>9693634
Why do you need to classify everything?

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9693666

Did you know that there's another world right on top of you and it's filled with people?

There are many different layers to reality and each layer is filled with people just like our own. We can't see them and they can't see us, but there are things you can do to thin the barrier between our worlds.

Sleep is the body's way of keeping us from seeing the other world. If you deprive yourself of sleep for around four days or longer then you begin to see shadows of people walking around, doing regular tasks, and just living their lives. You'll see them wherever you go. The curious thing about sleep deprivation is that this is universal. Every single person in the world, doesn't matter where they live or what culture they're from, they will see these same shadow people after being deprived of sleep. Either every human on the planet is somehow sharing the same hallucination or we're looking into another world.

Don't take my word for it. Try it yourself and you will see them too. This requires no drugs, all you have to do is stay awake for a few days.

>> No.9693658

>>9693647
Actually, I'm from /g/. I post the way I talk. Sorry my posts aren't overly formal.

>> No.9693662

>>9693655
Too much video games.

>> No.9693674

>>9693671
Well, that's just plain mean.

>> No.9693671

>>9693658
Go back to your desktop thread, faggot.

>> No.9693672

>>9693662
More like too much autism

>> No.9693677

>>9693658
I was mainly paying attention to your usage of sage in an off topic thread.

>> No.9693709

>>9693677
Don't you mean lack of usage? Sorry, I've never really cared enough to use sage.

>> No.9693731

>>9693666
What's next? There's some magical superbeing controlling all our lives but we believe it to be natural processes. and we have no way of interacting with him or proving he exists?

>> No.9693806

i bet your 18-19 and you read about Descartes in your philosophy class.

>> No.9693816

>>9692924
Me too. It's the worst.

>> No.9693836

>>9693806

giv her dic lel :DDD

>> No.9693851

>>9693498
Strangely enough, I've been to a seminar where this person said the exact same thing. He also claimed that he was a highly advanced alien (in human form) that has come to Earth to help our species awaken. It was a pretty interesting talk. It was just weird because you described it the same way that he described it.

He also added that you can eventually choose to die on your own volition, and return to source.

>> No.9693860

>>9693836
Descartes didn't really say that, did he?

>> No.9693918

>>9690709

OP refers to that part in Descartes' first meditation where he mentions crazy people and i translate : "who think they are kings while being very poor, who think they are dressed of gold and purple while being naked [...] "

in this part Descartes doubts his senses and the part right after that is when he talk about dreams.

in the dream part, what op is proposing could be happening but Descartes says is that there is no concrete way to tell sleep from awake. maybe your sleeping right now in an endless dream while if you were awake, the reality would be that your in gensokyo although you cannot trust your eyes and ears so you couldnt tell.

if you wanna know more about Descartes, im sure every college teacher in the world know his radical doubt.

>> No.9693934

Descartes thought of his ithinkthere4iam after the thought experiment of imagine a body without a mind, which he could not, and a mind without a body, which he could.

>> No.9693954

>>9693918
>im sure every college teacher in the world know his radical doubt
Is it an American thing to overemphasize philosophy in general or where do comments like these come from? The students I knew in high school and university never cared much about it (math was hot shit) but the internet and especially the imageboards seem to be filled with philosophy expertise.

>> No.9694002

>>9693954
I don't care, but I wish I was taught it. I always had philosophy pegged as one of those "useless" subjects when I was in school, in much the same way dumb teenage girls insist mathematics is useless. In retrospect I wish it was something I cared about sooner.

Though, like learning the names of logical fallacies, 99% of the times you apply philosophical knowledge, it's to namedrop things to win internet arguments.

>> No.9694027

>>9693954

funny, but im not american, i live in Rive-sud montreal. and i HATE philosophy its a fucking waste of time but i gotta do it to get my degree

>> No.9694034

>>9694002
Maybe it's a good interest for older, more easy-taking nerds. It kind of makes sense that you'll get interested in it at some point if you like getting raped by text walls.

>> No.9694054

>>9693954
Don't know about americans but philosophy in general is overlooked by many schools.
Many parts of Europe may be an exemption but still it is quite ignored.
Thanks to faggots like >>9694027
But some of us take interest in it
>>9694002
>>9694034

>> No.9694055

>>9694027
Oh, alright. I had only one mandatory philosophy course in high school and none after it.

>> No.9694063
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9694063

I'm scared of eternity

>> No.9694104

>>9694054
I'm >>9694034 and I actually think that it was a good thing that I didn't have to read it at school.

>> No.9694121

>>9694104
You described people that could be interested in it, i wasn't referring to you exactly ,autismo.

>> No.9694141 [DELETED] 

>>9694121
I used to hate it just like the ``faggot''. I probably wouldn't like it now if it were forced on me earlier.

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9694171

>>9693498
Did you know you died in the new dimension? Your experience makes me curious.

>> No.9694172

>>9694141
Your loss bro.
But perhaps if your NEETness is TRUE ( I don't even know if you are one though), you will fall in it consciously or not.

>> No.9694186

>>9693498
I read that book too.

>> No.9694192

>>9694186
What was the name of the book

>> No.9694194

>>9694192
"how to be epic on /jp" by your mom

>> No.9694369

>>9694192
Greg Egan's Permutation City.

>> No.9694471

I dyed my hair back to my natural color and I fucking hate it adn want to die.

>> No.9694480

Patchy, showing off her feet again...

>> No.9694643

>>9694192
I don't know the book, but what he's referring to is the Quantum Suicide thought experiment.

To sum it up, assuming the many-worlds interpretation is true, you will never die because you're constantly observing yourself by living. In any situation where you could have died, you did, but because you can't perceive these deaths, from your perspective, you survived everything.

I actually think about this sometimes and where we are in terms of technology. After reading an article about scientists working on transplanting human consciousness into a machine via digitization, I think it could be possible.

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