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[Anonymous No.]

An incredibly in-depth Touhou RPG.
Previous thread: >>9648724

The translation for the Weekend version has been released.
Prepatched game can be found here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?a8c1by6btaid7
Make sure to extract in Japanese locale or alternatively if you're having trouble running the game, try removing moonrunes from the folder names.

Weekend version introduces a rebalancing of learning and drop rates, most "1% or less" rates are now 10-15%. In addition most synthesis recipes now require slightly less materials and the Kusanagi sword requiring 25 less iron. You can actually build stuff pretty often now.

There's also a minimap, hit Select (Default D on keyboard) to toggle transparency!

You can also turn on easy mode at any time for non-boss battles where the damage is halved for you and you gain minor offensive bonuses. (Such as increased chance to land status effects)

The game also happens to run at 1/4th of the processing power it used to demand. Save games are compatible with 2.07 and up, but a save game converter should be able to help you out.

Have you had some trouble fighting a boss? Trying to figure out how a character works? Fighting 3+ mind flayers? Mokou keeps standing up when it matters? Discuss it here in this thread!

[Anonymous No.]

Forgot title.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9688366
Also the no consequence for death thing in Weekend. Again.

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>>9688381
I don't feel the need to highlight it, as I didn't consider it an actual difficulty barring my way, just required time for me to exit, and I think we had ample discussion of it already.

All I had to do was bomb my way out if I even meet anyone on my way back.

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>>9688391
What you or I think it does to the difficulty of the game is irrelevant. It's an important change to the game that people should know about, and thus should be in the OP.

[Anonymous No.]

Is the mediafire uploads of 2.09 gone? I can't seem to find them.

[Anonymous No.]

I really wanna start this but I have my hands full playing a VN that I need to finish until next week.

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>>9688460
I think the guy took them down in favor of the Weekend version.
And that's bullshit. I'll see if I can upload it.

[Anonymous No.]

I forget. Didn't 2.09 have a glitch that made the game read as 2.08?

[Anonymous No.]

So after thinking about it, I've decided Youmu is the best character in the game

those crits

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>>9688541
You ain't seen nothing yet.

That's not a crit.

[Anonymous No.]

Do Youmu's katanas with the death effect stack with the death effect that you get from putting enough points into the katana tree? Would it be viable to use a weak katana with the death effect, stack the hell out of ind, and nope that she applies death on almost everything outside of boss fights even if doing shit damage?

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>>9688381

>no consequence for death

Thank fucking God. One of the reasons I stopped playing was that copying save files over and over so often was annoying as hell. Certain monster encounters fuck all of your shit up instantly while disabling your ability to run away, so you had to regularly stop whatever you were doing in the dungeon to go outside and save to prevent your items from being lost. THEN you had to copy that save file because if you died later and lost items, there'd be no other way to get them back other than going back to the old save file since the game would auto-save the fact that items were lost forever.

Also, how does the game go after Chireiden? The monsters in that place were fucking brutal and made the game feel kind of like a chore. I managed to get into that dungeony-looking place in the basement beneath Chireiden before I just ended up not playing the game ever again.

Downloading now. Thanks for having a pre-patched version.

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>>9688655
Oh GOD, you are terrible.

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>>9688655
I wonder how you deal with games that have real death penalties.

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>>9688660
>>9688661
eye am hardcoar gusy xDDDD i lost all my items :)

fug :')

-you

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>>9688553
is that Sanae who hit? and a knife?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9688661

I don't play them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9688671
It was Reisen, obviously.

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>>9688655
Or you could, you know, accept your loss like you're supposed to. Items are never lost forever, they go right back to their chests, and you can just get drops again. Barring materials, you can only have 1 of each item anyways.

You sound like the exact people this version was made for. Weekend has an Easy Mode that halves damage you take so it's much harder to die in the first place.

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>>9688689
i'm not that far, i'm still at the garden of sunflowers

[Anonymous No.]

weekend mode, is that a shortened version of the game or just other difficulty?

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>>9688717
Game's the same length, just easier.

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>>9688391
Highlight it for people like >>9688655

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>>9688694

>Easy Mode

Fuck you, I'm not a pussy.

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>>9688786
Enjoy your death item loss grindy game, I'll be over here playing for the story and actually getting ahead.

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>>9688786
What are you a masochist?

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>>9688796

You misunderstand.

I'm >>9688655 and >>9688681. I'm not against games being difficult, as I've gotten a 1cc on all the Windows Touhou games on Hard and beaten all the Extra stages, but I just hate penalties for death. Hell, I considered MineCraft to be 2hardcore4me in that regard. In terms of difficulty, though, I'm not going to play a game on Easy Mode unless it's something silly like IWBTG (and hell, the difference between difficulties in that game was just how often save points came along).

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else a bit PO'd that weekend doesn't just put you right where you were before you died? If you're far into a dungeon wasting time running back is just forced tedium

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>>9688829
You are such a nerd pussy I bet you are a girl. I bet you smell nice and your skin feels soft and smooth too. Nerd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9688796
Oh god, shut up already. GoS isn't grindy and never has been.

>>9688829
But the Windows Touhou games have consequences for death. You only have so many lives.

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>>9688856
I want them to refill my MP after every battle so I don't have to run outside anymore.

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>>9688510
It did. It's nothing impairing, though.
>>9688594
I'd say yes, but I obviously have no proof or way to test it. However, that might not really be feasible because as far as I know, those weapons have a random chance to call the death effect, which then has a chance to work based on the IND/RES thing.
>>9688655
Oh wow you're hilarious. I bet you didn't even notice that Sanae has a RES buff, which makes you nearly immune to Mind Flayers, right?
>>9688796
I know you're trolling, but the story in GoS is about as good as the story in a normal Touhou game, with more stage 1-2 situations (as in Reimu beating everyone because she doesn't know who's the culprit).

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>>9688859

But the games only take 20 minutes to beat and the penalty for losing all your lives is just starting at the beginning.

>>9688878

I figured RES stood for 'Resistance', but I couldn't figure out what it resisted. I thought it was some variable in calculating MDef.

That's another thing that bothered me: I wish the various Status things had any explanations for what they meant. PAtk and PDef and the like are obvious, but I have no fucking clue what 'IND' stands for or what it's supposed to do.

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>>9688878
GoS's story may be as bad as a normal Touhou games story until the antagonists reveal themselves but nobody should play either of them for the plot anyway.

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>>9688912
Try reading the manual.

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>>9688912

Have you check the manual?

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>>9688912
20 minutes to beat if you just look at final clear run. They're significantly longer when you look at all the time you actually spend on them.

>the penalty for losing all your lives is just starting at the beginning.
I don't see your point.

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>>9688918
>>9688919

I did a couple of times, but I never found the information I was trying to find.

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>>9688930
>IND - Induction
>Affects the chance of inflicting conditions on enemies, and the strength of these conditions.

You didn't look very hard.

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>>9688829
>as I've gotten a 1cc on all the Windows Touhou games on Hard and beaten all the Extra stages
That's cute, but do you even score?

But honestly, GoS and DoD don't require any skill whatsoever, just patience. That alone makes them literally, piss easy compared to any games that require actual skill. But comparing difficulty between different genres isn't a good way to go about doing things. Anyway, just put some more time into GoS. Read the manual and use the wiki for help. Once you get enough material to upgrade weapons and craft other things, everything picks up pace.

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>>9688944
>But honestly, GoS and DoD don't require any skill whatsoever, just patience. That alone makes them literally, piss easy compared to any games that require actual skill.
Aaaugh...I really don't want to start an argument over this...

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>>9688946
I won't argue. Go ahead and post why you think otherwise, I'm interested in knowing. Maybe I'm missing something.

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>>9688944
Which games require actual skill?

[Anonymous No.]

I was told by someone that it's possible to get a broom for Marisa that increases a small amount of MP (I think 6) after each turn. Is this real and how do I get this?

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>>9689039
All of Marisa's brooms double MP recovery. What automatically restores MP every turn are a couple skills in her broom tree.

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>>9688944
>But honestly, GoS and DoD don't require any skill whatsoever, just patience.

You could say that about any RPG ever. There is no skill involved in RPGs, all you do is make decisions.
"easy" RPGs and "hard" RPGs are just a matter of which one make you make more tactical decisions, really. If you want to show of skill then you shouldn't be playing RPGs.

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>>9689045
Ohh that makes sense. I was confused why all her brooms said 2x MP recovery, but she still wasn't restoring any MP. Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>9688976
strategy and fighting ones

[Anonymous No.]

I love the OST.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9689101
>strategy
Well then.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, these cockatrices are being fucking annoying, they can petrify the entire party (even the ones with accessories against petrify) and killing me
any tip against those?
my party is actually lvl 27

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>>9689144
How much power does Sanae have? Dump as much as you can into her buff tree and use her RES buff at the start of every battle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9689144
sannie's res all nerd

also i think they're weak to fire so burn them

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>>9689154
>>9689155
ok thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>9689155
I'm pretty sure they're weak to thunder, not fire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9689160
i haven't played in months so listen to this guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>9689154
>>9689155
>>9689160
>>9689175
ok i made it this far thanks to you guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>9689310
I can't believe it, Yuuka and Medicine were a lot easier than Komachi

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>>9689473
Have fun with the next stage.

[Anonymous No.]

Where can i farm enough bamboo and iron?
need to upgrade the rest of my team's gear

[Anonymous No.]

>>9689541
Don't.

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>>9689561
why?

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>>9689577
Because grinding is boring, unnecessary, and isn't worth the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9689594
but everyone except reimu, youmu, sakuya, marisa, sanae and patchy are lvl 1 and i need to slip them at eintei

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>>9689639
Looks like the game being too easy worked against your favor, now you fucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9689639
Well then, you've done fucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9689639
Fucked up, fuck-up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9689639
>everyone except reimu, youmu, sakuya, marisa, sanae and patchy are lvl 1

[Anonymous No.]

>>9689639
>6 characters not even played
le what the fuck were you le doing?
please be trolling

[Anonymous No.]

Oh boy here we go.
The hardest part of this was dealing with Matsuba once she got invincible to magic (Youmu saved the day) and resisting beating Genji up too early (Meteo spam kind of hurts).
If I'm reading the wiki correctly, Shadow Flare is easy to get from Officer Demons and Flare is about as annoying to get as Holy, but I have no interest in that skill at the moment.

[Anonymous No.]

Also, does this skill have any use? At all? A single-target Parrar, which even costs a bomb, seems pretty horrible for me.

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>>9690689
It sounds fairly terrible. Maybe someone can do some testing and figure out how strong the shield gets, maybe it gets so unreasonably strong it'll block almost anything?

>>9689155
>>9689160
I'll post the general elemental guidelines again from the previous thread.

>The magical elements go:
>Fire - Water, Earth - Lightning, Light - Dark.
>Humanoids are often weak to dark.
>Reptiles often to water.
>Birds and other flying things to lightning.
>Electronics are usually weak to lightning.
>Blobs to both fire and water.
>Mind Flayers are resistant to everything but lightning.
>Aquatics, fish and the like, are usually weak to lightning or fire, rarely both.
>Dragons and Foreign gods are damn resistant to everything. (With Angels being weak to dark and vice versa with Demons)

>Mystic usually hits everything for the same.

And then you have weird stuff like pic.

[Anonymous No.]

How can Satori learn supportive monster magic like mass heal?

[Anonymous No.]

>easy mode

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>>9691843
Charm or control them.
Some monster skills can't be used when they're controlled, so you have to charm or control them on the turn they were going to use it, so they cast it at you instead.
It's not as annoying as it sounds when you get used to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>battle against Utsuho and Rin going well
>Rin gets defeated easily enough
>accidentally use illusionary dominance a turn before Utsuho drops under 40%

[Anonymous No.]

>>9691881
Getting the timing down for that part took me a few tries.

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>>9691881
Who are you quoting?

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>>9691881

Is it really 40% that she starts exploding your party? It seemed much lower

[Anonymous No.]

I can't beat Anastasia. Halp /jp/

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>>9692016
I've had her down to about 10-15% before all hell broke loose. At most it may be 20% but I see no point in pinpointing it. At a quarter is when, I think, you need to be throwing everything you have at her.

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>>9692016
She checks her health at the start of a turn, you're still safe on the turn she's at 41% health.

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>>9692060
It's always seamed lower than that, to me.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone here likes Defiant of shrine Maiden?

I hate the bad rep it gets, it's very challenging and makes you actually use a solid set-up.

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>>9692094
I liked it. I don't really remember much about it though. What bad rep are you talking about? I hardly ever see people talk about it here.

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>>9692015
Finally beat her, though I gave in and used wiki. That endow strategy was genius.

[Anonymous No.]

What level of difficulty is the Japanese text in this game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9692415
LOW level.

[Anonymous No.]

What does it mean when the number that shows the damage is kind of blue and shiny? They're not critical hits.

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>>9692983
That means it's "super effective"

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>>9692983
>>9693018
why i don;t have those blue numbers? which version do you have?

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>>9693018

But sometimes even regular attacks get those blue numbers, and it's not like the starting weapons have any kind of element.

>>9693144

Weekend version, which starts you off in Easy Mode by DEFAULT, as if it expects the game will be too hard for you. Fuck that.

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>>9693224
Yes they do. Stab, strike, and slash are elements too.

[Anonymous No.]

what does the POT attribute mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9693258
It's a mystery~

[Anonymous No.]

Just started playing. Finally beat Remilia and Nitori. Now how do I train Sakuya, Pachy, and Nitori without spending hours in the SDM?

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>>9693295
By spending hours in the forest of magic

[Anonymous No.]

I notice the manual wasn't changed at all for Weekend. Sloppy.

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>>9693300
My guys get raped.

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>>9693295
>hours
What?

Just put them on your team and move on; leave one in the commander slot. They'll die a lot, but they'll catch up pretty quickly.

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>>9693295
What level is the rest of your crew?

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Aaaaugh. I just can get another run started.
When I play weekend, the no death tax thing kills my mood in a flash, and whenever I play 2.09, the knowledge of how little I'll get to use the crafting system does the same.
I can't win.

[Anonymous No.]

When they say the learning rates have been increased to 10-15%, is that the base rate before Satori's learning tree applies?

I'm guessing equipment drops weren't increased much so some important drops will still require some effort to get

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>>9693560
Base rate. And no, just about everything got a big drop rate boost, equipment included.

>effort
Ha.

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>>9693560
It's the base rates that have been increased for Satori's skills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9693371
5. I have no clue if I'm doing good or bad.

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>>9693306
Then learn to use formations more effectively. Just using the Hakurei one and sticking the underleveled characters at the back is enough, for example.
>>9693574
The drop rates for the equipment in the final dungeons were only raised from 2% to 4% on most monsters. I don't see how that means you won't need to grind them at least a bit, even though it does mean that you will spend less time getting those items. The only ones that got a noticeable boost were the stuff that dropped form the stage 21 minibosses, from 3% to 15%.

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>>9693594
Running through the forest of magic, I got every single monster drop equipment just from fighting everything.

>>9693586
I recommend you do that, by the way. Kill it all.

>5
A little low. I was 7 when I got out of SDM. It'll be tougher, but you should be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9688500

Any update on the uploads? It would be great if we could get links so new players could freely choose with ease of access to both versions.

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>>9693725
Oh, right.
Here. Just grabbed the .rars out of my original GoS folder. I'm pretty sure that was the last version before weekend.

http://www.mediafire.com/?7br7trchx39q9

[Anonymous No.]

I don''t know why, just finished the SdM but there's still 2 silver keys unused and i can't find any silver chest or room without exploring left, is that normal?

[Anonymous No.]

how can you kill yukkuris? they run every damn time!

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>>9693863
No, it's not normal. Keep looking, the chests are there. Some chests in the game are also totally obscured by the scenery too.

>>9693957
Use Aya and accuracy buffs

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>>9693863
Have you opened any silver chests?

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like instant death weapon + IND accessories + IND formation + IND buff results in instant death triggering 100% of the time. So in the end, I was wrong about those weapons having a chance to call the instant death thing, since they instead have an innate chance to do it and that happens every time you use them.
I guess I found a new use for Byakuren, especially when she's together with Alice.

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>>9693995
I opened 2 already but i still have 2 keys left

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>>9694491
That's a glitch. I don't think it happens anywhere but SDM.

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>>9694483
That won't last forever. From what I've heard, enemies get plenty of resistance latter on, especially in the final levels.

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>>9693863
Happened to me as well in the library, somehow I ended up with too many keys to use.
>>9693560
It looks like if you spend a good deal in the dungeon killing enemies, you end up getting every single equipment item in the dungeon, unless it has a reason to be incredibly rare. I haven't tried making a new playthrough yet.
>>9693760
I'll add this link to the next thread if it gets to that point. In addition to zero death penalty I've neglected to mention. Apologies.
>>9693957
Fast melee attacks! You're probably relying on them not running for two turns to get a kill in, it's normal.
>>9694508
Yeah and you can reach near 200IND on a character, Satori was staring fairies into death in Garden of the Sun v2.

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>>9696232
youmu's yukkuri slash is something who can kill yukkuris?

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>>9696259
It seems to do really high damage for Yukkuri, yes.
And by high I mean 3+.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9696264
better than zero

[Anonymous No.]

Is the addon that adds additional content and characters translated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9696305
Yes, it's in the prepatched version, anything beyond version 2 includes it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9696366
Ah okay, nice. Never hear anyone talking about it, that's why I wonder. Maybe everyone is still on the main game.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to force this game into fullscreen?

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>>9696831
Open the game file and check and make it Fullscreen=Yes

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>>9696836

All right, thanks.

I don't know why they made it so it would be so difficult to fullscreen. Even the keyboard shortcut that forces games into fullscreen didn't work; I was surprised.

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>>9696847
>difficult
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9696872

No other game I have ever played required you to edit a .ini file to make it fullscreen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9696992

And fucking hell, making it Fullscreen=Yes makes the game stretch to fill your screen's resolution, even if it's widescreen. I'll have to change my monitor's resolution to 4:3 to prevent stretching. How annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9696992
You could also check the fullscreen thing on the game's config.exe, or push Alt+Enter.

[Anonymous No.]

I just got Satori. What kind of role does she fill? I've never really been good at handling enemy-move-copiers in RPGs; I never know what to do with them.

At the moment, I'm using that Hakurei formation with Marisa and Sanae in the back, Reimu and Sakuya in front, and Mokou in the middle, and Aya as commander (but just so I could get the first move on those fucking birds that would cancel all your magic). I like everyone in my group, as they all have a useful role: Mokou for physical damage and tanking, Marisa for magic damage, Sanae for healing and support, Reimu for everything except moving quickly (holy fuck she is so Goddamn slow), and Sakuya for hitting like a Goddamn truck. I have no idea who I'd swap out for Satori.

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>>9698036
Swap as the need arises. Don't stick to one party.

Satori is by far the most versatile character in the game, but when you first get her, there's not much good stuff to learn. The basic elemental spells from fairy maid mages in SDM, mind blast from mind flayers, and energy drain from zombie fairies are all very good...but not enough to warrant using her yet.
Put her in the commander slot and let her grow. Once she gets 25 power, dump it all in her learning tree and get back to us.

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>>9698036
She's basically a hybrid of Blue Mage and area status inflicter, which means you'll have to spend some time fighting enemies and running from them in order to learn new skills. The most useful things she can learn, in my opinion, are her magic spells, which can get just as strong as or even stronger as Marisa's with the right investment, and she's even more versatile than Patchouli because she can use (cheap) spells of every element without needing a bomb. In short, she can be a good character if you invest time on her.

Also, I suggest you don't stick to only one party, because at certain points in the game (stages 9 and 18, to be precise), you WILL need to split your party. Well, you could actually only use one team to clear one side, then switch over and use the same time for the other side(s), but where's the fun in that? If you're wondering how you should level up those level 1 character, just use a formation that makes them less likely to be hit, or stick them in the commander slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698062
>>9698066

>Swap as the need arises. Don't stick to one party.

Ahhh shit. The only RPG in which I did a good job of leveling up all the party members was FFX. Alice, Nitori, and Patchy are all still level 1. I'll figure out a way to get by, somehow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698299
The commander slot is good for leveling up new party members or ones that have lagged behind.
Experience also scales generously; low level characters get bonus experience from stuff in higher-level dungeons.

[Anonymous No.]

About Weekend drop rates...
In raw GoS, you'd get 10 character-specific crafting items for each character throughout the main game. Monsters could drop them, but at INCREDIBLY low rates. Like .001% or something. Iron and stuff could be farmed, especially with the drop rate patch, but that 10-count still limited your crafting.
Does Weekend do anything about that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698299
>Nitori and Patchy are all still level 1
Shit, nigga, you be missing out on all that tasty aoe elemental chasing.
But, really, the only character I find to be absolutely necessary no matter what situation I'm in is Fujiyama no Fucking Mokou. Goddamnit is she a badass tank. Especially with Patches there to up the Fire land effect so she recovers eighty HP every turn. Up until Yuyuko, she's reduced all physical damage to zero. And when she's the only one left alive because everyone else is all squishy, she can revive the whole team back to full health in one turn.

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>>9698460
Mokou is broken as fuck in the early game. Recruiting her early is secret for a reason.

>Goddamnit is she a badass tank
Mokou's durable, but she's a shitty tank. She's got no way to make the baddies hit her and no way to consistently protect the party.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698537
But she doesn't even have to. So long as there aren't any Instant Death users around she pretty much cannot be killed. Just let her solo the enemy for a bit until her full-party rez activates and you're back in business.

[Anonymous No.]

>get in battle
>3 Mindflayers
>ambushed
>endless chain of paralyze and insta death
Quality encounter

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698387
Yes. Most enemies that used to drop it at 0.1% now drop it at 1% (up until about the first half of the game), then the enemies that used to drop it at 0.5% now drop it at either 2% or 3% (second half of the game). Also, the minibosses in the final dungeon that used to drop the high quality materials at 1% now drop them at 10%.

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>>9698595
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698586
>So long as there aren't any Instant Death users
Or paralyzes, petrifiers, sleepers, or blinders. Or anything that does magic damage, especially water. OR anything that just hits really hard. To many holes for it to be a reliable strategy.
Where are you in the game?

>>9698595
>3 Mindflayers
>ambushed
...that happens?

[Anonymous No.]

Do bosses have less HP on Weekend? Are ANY enemy stats changed outside of easy mode?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698668
Second time i've ever been ambushed in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

So I just fought Yuyuko, and the spell she casts as she dies is insta-death to your whole party. I even had Sanae's RES buff on at the time and NO ONE resisted it. Do I have to get a perfect anti-death accessory just for this fight? That's silly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698967
If you kill her first, she doesn't cast the party wipe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698979
That's false, I tried it and didn't work (Weekend version, at least).

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698979

...Okay. That's completely random and unpredictable until you know about it, but whatever.

Turns out there isn't a perfect anti-death accessory anyway, it seems. I have a pendant that will 'usually' prevent it and Korindou can get me one that 'may' prevent it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698967
Cover someone with Alice, put up a status barrier with Reimu, kill her during Sakuya's private square, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698987

Reading this, I don't know what to believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698967
The idea is to have someone protected on the turn you beat her. You can do that with Alice (cover/Little Legion), Nitori's commander spell, or probably something else too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698993
> That's completely random and unpredictable until you know about it, but whatever.
That's the idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698993
>>9698995
>>9698999
>>9699000
>>9699007
Or... You can just poison her to death with Byakuren and Satori.
She doesn't cast it if she dies of poison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698979
But then you have to deal with Youmu who is more dangerous than Yuyuko while alone.

[moodal No.]

I finally beat the game!
Man, it feels good.
I guess I'll start on the expansion now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698995
>>9699000

I put Nitori as my commander to use her commander spell, but then forgot to use her on the appropriate turn. I knew that the turn was going to finish off Yuyuko, and I just gave the last command out and thought, "Okay, now to make sure I use the commander on this tu-OH SHIT YOU HAVE TO DO THAT AT THE BEGINNING WHAT THE FUCK AM I DOING" and died. So I fought her a THIRD time.

>kill her during Sakuya's private square

Thanks for the tip. It's weird, it was like the game had some sort of odd hiccup right after Yuyuko disappeared, as if I had glitched my way into victory. Nitori was still my commander, and leapt straight into level 4 from that battle.

Also, Sakuya's "Another Murder" does like 500 damage to Yuyuko if Sakuya has her buff from her Last Word or whatever it's called. She's an absolute beast and I love her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9699109
>Sakuya being a badass
If you had synthesized her personal weapon (Great Maid, I think it's called), you'd have been seeing her do 1,000 plus on all the angels and demons in the Netherworld.
If you can, get her next weapon with your very first Sunflower Seed. She can kill those annoying cockatrices with one hit in the Garden of the Sun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9699109

I just got Youmu's Celestial Peach crafted katana and armor, and putting her in her PAtk stance and using the accompanying skill just did over 400 damage AT LEVEL ONE.

Sakuya, I'm leaving you.

[Anonymous No.]

can you play hina in this game? i think i saw a screenshot where she looked like a boss, but I only want to play it if my party can be filled with my favorite 2hus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9699143
Holy shit.

...do you have easy mode turned on?

>>9699150
Nope, no playable Hina.
...what is with this forced quick reply bullshit?

[Anonymous No.]

Did the Lingering Summer Heat links get taken down? I can't seem to find any alive links.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9699150
Not counting the characters in Lingering Summer Heat, there are twelve.
Reimu, Marisa, Sanae, and Aya are the four starters.
Later you pick up Patchy, Sakuya, Nitori, Alice Satori, Youmu, and (optionally) Byakuren and Mokou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9699190
Ugh.
Byakuren and Mokou aren't optional. The join when they're supposed to if you don't get them early.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9699210
And I went out of my way to get them early because I thought they were missable.
Ugh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9699152

Nope, turned that shit off shortly after realizing that it was ON by default (sometime in early SDM) and never turned it back on.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have any drops the game JUST doesn't want to give you?

Zeus Armor and Holy Grail have been dodging me forever.

Every-time I get a drop from those fuckers in the Gorgon Barrier it always turns out to be Aya's Material and a Magic Crystal too

Stage 21's weird respawn rate makes grinding for them a pain too, Anyone know any tricks?

[Anonymous No.]

So what exactly happens when you put someone as a commander? Is it useful if I have just 4 characters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9699474
You get a flat commander bonus [character specific] and have access to their commander bombs in battle.

Its notable that they also gain experience as a commander and as such, a good way to catch up underleveled party members, especially later on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9699474
The guy above was faster than me.
>Is it useful if I have just 4 characters?
Maybe if you want to use a formation for only 4 characters, I guess. It should be noted that the bonuses for those are no better than the bonuses for formations of five, though, so I don't think there's any advantage.

[Deep Animu !EvaLOl..tQ No.]

>>9699417
Save at the healing circle. Run to an encounter. If it isn't the mini-boss you want press F12 and reload at the healing circle. When you kill it and don't get the drop you want press F12 and reload at the healing circle.

This won't cause the enemies to despawn.
You can't use the menu- that'll save the game and cause you get kicked out of the dungeon when you reload.

[Anonymous No.]

I accidentally hit X when I was asked if I wanted to play 残暑. Do I have to beat the last boss again to reach it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9699417

If you still have a copy of Lingering Summer Heat, you can use the in-dungeon save trick.

This doesn't work (directly) in Weekend, but if you set this up in Lingering Summer Heat, you can copy the file over to Weekend and use easy mode if you want.

Go into the dungeon and find an enemy - before you start the battle, open your menu and close it so the game creates a backup file.

Then run into the enemy - if it's the one you want, open your save folder and find the file named ここはバックアップフォルダです. Rename this file to a normal save file in an empty slot (e.g., TSD040, TSD057, whatever). When you load this save file, so long as you don't open your menu, you will appear in the middle of the dungeon exactly where you created the backup, and the next enemy you fight will be the same one every time. You can use this to get equipment much faster because you don't have to look for the enemy all over again.

If the enemy you ran into when you created the file isn't the one you were looking for, just reset and try again (by opening the menu to create the backup file, then renaming and replacing it when you find what you're looking for).

[Anonymous No.]

>>9698062

>Once she gets 25 power, dump it all in her learning tree and get back to us.

Okay, now what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9699986

I JUST beat Komachi, if you'd like to know where I am. My next destination is the Garden of the Sun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9699986
>ss_mrk
>smirk

Nice

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any way to passively rack up enemy kills without consciously doing anything?

You need 15,000 enemy kills to unlock the synthesis items from Akyuu.

The best thing I've been able to do is give Sanae the iron ring of destruction, set it up so she always acts first, speed up the game and run through the first few stages killing everything in a second using auto battle.

Even doing this, it would take an eternity to reach 15,000.

[Anonymous No.]

I just beat the crab girl at Genbu's Stream. Is she supposed a complete pushover?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9699855
Yup.
>>9700264
And yup.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know if it's me being under leveled or just having the wrong party, but in "The Heart of Eientei" my party dies in one or two turns to normal monsters unless I spam bombs\ Commander.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any character with a charm or control skill instead of Satori's last word? i need to learn stuff with Satori and her last word never charge

[Anonymous No.]

>>9699986
Shit. That was fast...
Let's see...still pretty early. She could do pretty well as a status attacker. Get her mind blast and whatever looks good among her regular spells and some induction stuff and try that.
Also don't forget the basic elemental spells from fairy maid wizards; the holy one is from angels, though. Try the netherworld. Also energy drain from zombie fairies.
In the garden, get sunburst from the sun flowers. It's got some useful slayers. In the stage after that get acid storm.
You might want to pick up one or two all-targeting elemental spells (flame, frost, etc) but they really aren't very good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9701569
Byakuren has charm and control skills. She also joins up right when Satori really starts being good.
Do note that if you're trying to learn enemy support skills, they probably won't be able to cast them while charmed/controlled. You've got to hit them with one of the two on the turn they're about to cast it.

>>9701135
Inner Eientei is a really tough stage, more so than any of the ones before it and a several of the ones after it.
It's probably party composition. Did you level Mokou at all in Outer Eientei? She does well here with her silence or great confusion fist; let her wail on the moon maidens. You'll also probably want Sanae on the team; have her buff your RES every single battle. Use a good formation (do you have poison shield?) if you're getting wrecked, or use Alice. Don't feel bad about using two character slots just for survival; it'll get worse.

Oh, and if you didn't get Byakuren early, have Satori pick up lunatic voice from the werewolves. It'll help against the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9701580

Is Satori just shitty with spells that hit all enemies? I already picked up Fire Breath and Gale Slash just from loitering around the Netherworld, and even after I gave her the Celestial Peach crafted eye, those skills did no damage.

Anyway, from what it seems so far, it looks like Satori is supposed to end up as a blend between Byakuren and Marisa?

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone help me? I'm kind of new to this. Not installing things, but with all the kanji, I'm a little disoriented.

I downloaded all five files of the prepatched weekender (OST included) and I have them sitting in my downloads folder.

I assume I should extract all of them to the same destination, and press "replace" when a dialog shows up?

Then what? Should I go to the language settings and turn non-unicode things to japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9692189

Some people bitch that it's too hard, when they just suck, horribly.

So basically people who put up gameplay of it misrepresent the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9701613
>poison shield
How do I get that? I thought you had to have Alice get poisoned by Medicine and cure her during the Yuuka/Medicine fight, so I had to purposefully lose until I did that, but I didn't get it. Seriously, easiest boss fight so far.
I really want that one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9701989
Satori >L30
Go to Sunflower Shithole
Eat O9K Petro Breaths
Learn Petro Breath
Stack IND accesories
More monsters that attack you, more you laugh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9701989
Wait until you get shit like Tsunami and tornado and put 13 points into Eye.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9701989
You need at least 20 points in Learning and 13 in Third Eye before considering dealing damage with her. The fact that those skills you mentioned are physical doesn't help much either (although I guess she's not as bad at that as I once thought).
The easiest way to deal lots of damage as her is just using magic, preferably with a good staff and a lot of points on its growth tree. The basic single-target elemental spells should be enough for pretty much the whole game too, if you're not on Weekend and don't want to spend too long learning new stuff.
>>9702112
Kill an enemy with Toxic. Easiest way is to give Satori as much IND as you can, Poison Lily/Doll's Limb, The Green Eye, then buffing her IND even further with Byakuren and using either Poison Hand or Poison Arts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9702275
Do you have to do this after beating Medicine and Yuuka? Because that's how I beat Yuyuko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9702282
Nope, you can do it before them, although that formation won't help against Meddy's poison as much as one would expect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9702301
Toxic is... different from Venom? Who do you talk to to get it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9702322
Poison, Venom, and Toxic are the same thing. The stronger versions get applied with high enough IND and RES difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9702322
I think poison, venom, toxic are caused by any poisoning attack, you inflict a better one the more IND and poison boost items you have.

Also with weaker enemies you are more likely to inflict a stronger poison, so you should try the SDM

[Anonymous No.]

>>9701989

Well, I've decided to give up on Satori, as I'm just not seeing any results from spending time on her, at least at this stage.

I'm glad that the 'party split' thing allows you to just do one side, swap your parties around so you can use the exact same people, then do the other side. I can see the appeal of leveling everyone up and all that, but really, Mokou, Reimu, Marisa, Sanae, and Youmu in Hakurei Formation simply does everything I want. I've tried swapping out people, and it just weakens everything because none of the characters fulfill the roles better than the characters I'm already using. I mean, sure, Alice outdoes Mokou as a tank, but Mokou is doing that job well enough and does a shit-ton of damage too.

I tried dividing up my good people with my lower-level people, and it seems that the enemies in this part are easier to account for the fact that you're using weaker members, but it's not just the weakness that bothers me. My party won't run the way I want it to without the right people. It feels like Alice is a complete waste of space unless there's a shit ton of incoming damage that you're trying to mitigate a certain way. Satori doesn't do much damage, and she doesn't so anything else either. Reimu has heals, but neither she nor anyone else compares to Sanae (except maybe Satori if that Area Heal thing enemies sometimes use can be copied), so you can't really have a party without her. This whole 'party split' thing just won't work for me, even if it makes whatever route I'm doing a little easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9702672
They sort of make it easy to split your party, though. The right side has enemies that are resistant to physical (and one that reflects all physical damage), and the left side has enemies that are resistant to magical (and one that reflects all magical attacks).
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
I sent Sanae to the left with Youmu, Sakuya, Satori, and Aya, and I sent Mokou to the right with Nitori, Patchouli, Hijiri, and Marisa. My Alice and Reimu are underleveled, so I left them in the Commander spots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9702879
I enjoy using Sanae, Youmu, Sakuya, Mokou and Nitori (with Aya as the commander) on the left side and Alice, Marisa, Reimu, Patchouli and Satori on the right side. Sanae and Nitori make the left side even easier with their elemental physical attacks, Sakuya makes it 3x easier with her plant/beast-slaying sword, and the other two just kind of fill the rest of the party. Meanwhile, Alice protects everyone on the other party, I guess, while they blast everything away with magic. Just make sure to give her a way to protect against blindness.

[Anonymous No.]

Ahhh fucking hell. So you have to beat a boss with each party? Welp, time to strategize a bit more than I thought I'd have to. Tewi wasn't outright DIFFICULT, it's just that I need to get a strategy for dealing with that super move she casts over and over again. The attempt on which I beat her was just sheer luck, since it kept missing everyone. Do I look through to see if anyone has an evasion buff or accuracy debuff, and beat her that way? There didn't seem to be much to her other than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9703607
Satori's got an Acc debuff. I opened the fight with that and beat her on the first go.
Against Reisen you're gonna want Sanae to Res buff the team, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9703607
Twei's gimmick is that her nuke has really shitty accuracy, so an EVA buff or an ACC debuff is pretty much all you need. Just keep in mind that she has an AoE sleep too.

Reisen dies in like three to four turns if you have Sakuya's most recent weapon. She should be no trouble at all, even if she keeps making everyone go berserk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9702672
I feel your pain, but you should still try to use other party members. And yeah, Satori admittedly takes time to get going. She'll get area heal soon, which helps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9703948

Oh, she just learns it on her own? That's useful. As it stands, she's just a terrible mage that has some debuffs.

I don't see why I should struggle through leveling other characters, though. It might have made getting through Tewi and Reisen easier (my Tewi group all died except for Reimu, who managed to dodge everything for like five turns as she slowly needled Tewi down, even though Tewi wasn't debuffed anymore), but that's it. Even if there's another party-split thing later, it would take less time to just grind all the lowbies up at that point instead of mixing and matching and trying to level them all up equally. Besides, crafting equipment for five characters is many times less frustrating than trying to craft items for twelve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9704157
>As it stands, she's an awesome debuffer that can learn some less useful damaging spells.
The best damage to mp ratio at this point in the game for you is Byakuren+Satori's mega-poison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9704157
No. I think the earliest you can learn it is stage 10.
I'm talking about area heal, not mass heal. Mass heal is garbage.

I can't tell you how to play the game. I never found it hard to mix and match my party, but eh.
I can tell you that you will HATE stage 18. It's the first part of the final area. It's also a three-way party split, and the enemies are pretty damn tough; none of that "magic goes here, physical goes there" stuff either

[Anonymous No.]

So, I finally decided to use Satori a bit now that I'm on the expansion, what are some good damage dealing skills to teach her? I got the basic elementals on SDM and demon blast/shock and star blaze, what else is good? She seems to have a pretty underwhelming damage so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>9704157
I didn't bother using Satori until stage 13. Before then (In my experience) you just have an extremely fragile caster with low MP. Now, with the help of some equipment, I have her doing as much damage as Marisa with more elemental variety and healing better than Reimu

Also, heed >>9704238 's note about stage 18

[Anonymous No.]

>>9704483
Satori isn't really for damage.
Get Meteor from Flandre (either version), Holy from those plant guys in stage 21, shadow flare from garden of the sun 2, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

The Heart of Eientei is so much fun. The music and atmosphere are fucking great and the enemies are tough, but not too much so. I haven't lost yet, though I did have to run away with a sliver of health at one point because I didn't know that the Dragon Maids had a 'rape everything' skill.

Also, what the hell, someone mentioned Stage 21? This is a long-ass fan game. And there's an expansion on top of that? Good lord.

[Anonymous No.]

Right after you recruit satori, her biggest asset is poison damage. Poison arts + IND accessories + +IND armor + green eyes deals out massive damage. A properly built satori can outdamage every single other 2hu at this point.

When giving Satori elemental spells, make sure they're actually magic attacks. Fire breath for example runs off the attack stat, not mag.

The generic elemental spells are pretty bland. Stick to mind blast/poison arts/petro breath until you have access to better spells such as acid storm, tornado, and demon collider.

[Anonymous No.]

As for attacks to use in boss battles, get mad thunder, flare, shadow flare, and holy. Sunburst is decent if you want a cheap single target fire spell

[Anonymous No.]

>>9704582

>Sunburst is decent if you want a cheap single target fire spell

Except it costs more than twice as much mana as Marisa's basic fire spell and only does half the damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9704567
> A properly built satori can outdamage every single other 2hu at this point.

bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>9704723
For ten of Byakuren's and six of Satori's mp, you can cause ALL of the enemies to take over five hundred damage per turn for quite a few turns.
Only way I can possibly think of that could beat that is having all of your enemies lined up and subject to Sakuya's slayer type so she can use Ultimate Division.
But she can only hit three at a time with it, and after two turns of using it you've already spent more mp than Satori and Byakuren combined.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9704567
>The generic elemental spells are pretty bland.
With them, you can easily do at least as much damage as Marisa with just the right growth investment and a staff. I like to use her as some kind of slower Marisa with access to earth, light and dark spells.
>>9704723
She can deal about 500-700 damage with her poison to every enemy at the end of a turn. It might not be as amazing as Sakuya hitting a slayer attack, but it's certainly pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9704710
Just ran some tests, and that's not true.

Besides, Sunburst has slayers. That helps.

[Anonymous No.]

I love how much more enthusiastic Mokou's attacks sound, especially with her spellcard pose.

>bzzt
>thwak
>fwoosh fwoosh fwoosh
>swish
>REEEEEYYEAAAAAAAAA!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9689108

Is there a mediafire link to the OST? All I can find are youtube videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>9705323
The mediafire folder in OP's link includes the OST.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9704552

You do know there's already a sequel out called Devil of Decline, right? English patch is apparently in the works and will be released around Christmas.

[Deep Animu !EvaLOl..tQ No.]

Enervation, Dissolve, Tsunami, Area Heal and the rest don't matter in my opinion. Satori's base infliction rate is much higher than byakuren's- toss on hyper trigger, self-induced hypnotism and wind of miracles and you get way way more consistent debuffing for bosses (and more importantly freed skill slots for byakuren's better buffs)

[Anonymous No.]

Heart of Eientei:
Holy shit NINE of those fuckers with really high evade but not much health? This is gonna be a long-ass fi- wait! I have Tengu's Fall Wind! Hell, this should only take about two or three tu- Whoohoho hold on a second. Sanae is in her aoe mp regain setup right now.
Electricity
Electricity Everywhere.

Sanae now hold the record for most enemies killed in a single attack (previously held by Youmu with a double Spring Wind while under the effects of Asura Strength) , and also got almost a hundred mp back in that one turn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9688359

[Anonymous No.]

>>9705662
what
i dont
what

[Anonymous No.]

>>9705669
One of those rarely occuring cases of way too much want?
Also, is this actually, lemme get this right, fanart of a fangame of a fangame? Fucking Touhou, man. Nothing even comes close.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9705676
It's just edited fanart of a fangame so it's relevant to a fangame of a fangame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9705662
I only used Satori as a meatshield or commander, such a pita having to teach her anything useful.

[Anonymous No.]

I think I like the idea of Satori as a mimic more than a blue mage. Her whole thing is that she can use any attack without having to go through the pain of having seen, felt, or developed it, so long as she can read the mind of someone who has.
What I envision for her is a sort of cross between the Mimic and Gao from FFVI. Her primary ability (Called Recollection, obviously) has you choose one of your previously defeated bosses, and she gets a specially tailored set of abilities based on who you choose and what level she is. The movelist would be similar to what that boss had, but maybe powered down just a bit. She doesn't even have to have been in the fight with that boss, because she can "read" all about it using your other party members.
She could also have a more immediate ability when not in Recollection mode that has her read the target's mind and use the same move that affected them most recently, whether it's an attack or a buff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9705724
Wouldn't you say 'mime'? In general I thought mimics were monsters disguised as treasure chests.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9705824
Mime, right. It's been a while since I played FFVI.
My point is that her abilities should rely more on seeing abilities and styles through others' minds instead of feeling them for herself.
It takes a real masochist to be a really good blue mage.

[Anonymous No.]

So what would be the best minmaxing party for just general dungeons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9705436

>Sanae is in her aoe mp regain setup right now.
>got almost a hundred mp back in that one turn.

Whoa whoa whoa, what? What is that? I've only been able to have Sanae get her MP back by smacking things for a measely 2-5 MP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9706250
The best? It's a little difficult with all the weapons having vastly different properties. In endgame I feel most safe with Alice to shield everyone, Sakuya with certain slayer and brute strength, Manussya Youmu to crit everyone, Marisa to snipe every weakness, and Satori to back everyone up (Heal/barrier and elemental spells).

[Anonymous No.]

Yeesh, how do you people manage to get characters so underleveled? I just use 6, clear for a bit and use the other 6, along with swapping one or two with more xp for those with less. I managed to keep everyone about the same level for most of the game.

Oh by the way, you know how you'll get 5 more characters to play with in the expansion? They'll be level 1, good luck getting the 1000000 exp they need to get to your group's level. Well, at least they get the same power level as the rest. Also, the re-'recruitment' is helluva fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9706358

>Yeesh, how do you people manage to get characters so underleveled?

By using your favorite 6 and just sticking to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9706398
Still not loving all touhous equally?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9706412

Not when some of them simply don't play like how I want them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9706412

The only ones you really need to work on are Youmu, Alice, Marisa/Patchy, Byakuren, Sanae and Reimu (for the final battle).

Well, i guess you also need to get Satori leaf shield and starlight barrier.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I get into touhou /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9706602
Fuck that, use them all. They're all fun, sooner or later.
>for the final battle
You mean the final battle where you have to use two teams of six? As in, you've got to use ALL the Touhous?
Hm.

Also...an expansion, a retuning, and patch after patch, and this door STILL doesn't lead to a super hard bonus dungeon/boss. How disappointing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9706644

Yes you use them all but it doesn't matter. One mage (ideally both) will do the damage during phase 1+2, and youmu will do all the damage during phase 3.

Add buffs, barriers, and alice's shielding, and the rest is just fodder. They won't be doing any damage anyway compared to youmu so they're virtually useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9706703
Baaah. I see your point, but can't agree with it.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, how the hell are you supposed to gear up all the characters if they're all necessary? I barely have any spare mats after outfitting the five characters I use all the time. Do you just have to grind that much? Or do you decide who gets their own crafted gear, and hand out staffs/axes and whatnot to the others?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9706772
They can use the universal weapons, or sometimes you can just craft an early weapon for them and they'll be fine with it for a very long time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9706772
Don't grind.
You don't need to keep everyone's equipment up-to-date. Hand out the best that you've got to whoever can use it and go with that. If you're scouring dungeons for chests, you should have enough stuff.

Equipment really isn't THAT important. It's not like, say, WoW. You definitely don't need everyone to have their latest unique weapon and armor or anything like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9706772
Treasure chests have plenty of gear. The swords, lances, axes and staves you find are not bad, and the armor is often impressive.

[Anonymous No.]

Latest version of the weekend English patch, fixes some expansion loser quotes not showing up along with other various stuff.

http://www.mediafire.com/?hqytuktj159kjx5

[Anonymous No.]

>>9706898
God damn it, I downloaded the version from the opening post just ten minutes ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9706320
Serpent bomb is more or less guaranteed to drain more mp than it costs.

What gloves do I need to equip to allow Mokou to use final finger?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9707356
Saint Hand, God Hand or Phoenix Hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9707356
I'd let Mokou final finger me

[Anonymous No.]

>>9704552

Okay, wow. I was thinking that the Heart of Eientei was just MASSIVE, as I went down the left path first and spent an eternity exploring it. Imagine my surprise when I decide to explore the other two paths after finding the pre-boss room at the end of the left path, only to find that the other two "paths" were just single rooms without even any treasure chests. Oh well.

Time to, I'm assuming, beat up a princess and a doctor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9707704
What level are your characters doing the Heat? All of mine are high 20's and the normal mobs are destroying me.

Also where do you go to learn poison moves for Satori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9707724
Poison mist from the moths in forest of magic. You don't need it, though. Satori learns a mass-poison spell on her own.

[Anonymous No.]

Beat up Eirin and Kaguya. Not TOO hard, but the boss music for them was disappointing. Just make sure to give all your IND accessories to a person with Dispel, maybe appoint someone like Sakuya as your commander to boost your IND on certain turns, cast DEF and MDEF buffs, and you're set for pretty much everything as long as your mana pool holds out.

The final hit was Mokou killing Kaguya with a punch to the face. That made me happy.

>>9707724

My main party is in their mid-30s, with everyone else somewhere between 11-22.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9707866
Beating them without doing lewd things to Kaguya's mind isn't too hard either. All you need is to protect yourself from all the area attacks and ti find a way to dispel their buffs, which is actually the hardest part because Sanae's fucking dispel doesn't work 100% of the time goddamn
Once you realize that both Nitori and Marisa can have a slayer effect on them and that they're both element users (so you can make them even stronger with Patch), dealing damage to them, even with their buffs on, becomes pretty easy.

[Anonymous No.]

Just died in Heart again and the game is telling me to go level. I was actually being able to progress with annihilation about every 5-6 monster until I get to the cut scene area.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9706898

Can I just replace the appropriate pack files from the OP link with this one? Backing the files up just in case.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't you guys get tired of this grinding shit?

Holy shit; this shit has been here for like 3 years?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9708159
The game's advise is dumb sometimes.
Mokou with her silence/confussion fist is good for disabling moon maidens, and Sanae is invaluable for her RES buff; dump 25 in her buff tree so she doesn't run out of mana. Mokou in the tank spot of a formation should keep you safe from damage, but if it isn't, use Alice.
Run like hell from the dragon maids. They're strong, and their ice breath will DESTROY you.

[Anonymous No.]

this thread got me to try out my copy of Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song

[Anonymous No.]

>>9708414
haven't played this game, but if it's true to the SaGa series, grinding will fuck you over

[Anonymous No.]

>>9708427
Fuck like in getting you addict?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9708418
Thanks for the advice. I was using
Sanae
Marisa
Youma
Satori
Sakura

I may try switching out Yo for Mokou

[Anonymous No.]

>>9708463
if I remember correctly, you miss out on quests and enemies get way too strong, to the point where you're fighting fuckings bosses as regular encounters

[Anonymous No.]

>>9708486
So the enemies scaled? Because I don't think they scale in GoS

[Anonymous No.]

Grinding won't fuck you over, but it IS unnecessary for most of the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9708486
In Stage 20, every single encounter may as well be a boss fight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9708946
I found it odd how much easier stage 21 was than 20. Stage 20 was enormous and SWARMING with enemies, and there were, like, 20 different kinds of them, and almost all of them could do something to fuck you up.
Stage 21, on the other hand, was very short, and had what, half a dozen enemy types? And a lot of them weren't that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any reason not to go for each character's special weapon type? The generic ones just feel so plain in comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9709167
Murder Sakuya using knives is pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9709167
Unique weapons are usually better than regular stuff, but their only obtained via crafting. You won't be able to keep all of them up-to-date and better than the constant flow of regular weapons. Regular weapons also have tons and tons and tons of unique effects.

Patchy's books aren't worth it compared to all the awesome staves you get, nor are most of Byakuren's scrolls and Satori's eyes. Aya shouldn't be used for damage, so the only fan she needs is the evasion one. Sanae's snakes are pretty ok, especially if you opt to give her extra induction, but she's still better off buffing and healing, and the iron used for snakes is better off feeding Sakuya and Youmu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9709274
At least with Weekend you can craft much more frequently, because pretty much everything that used to require 3 character materials now only need 2 of them. Since you get 10 of those for every character just by opening chests and armors got cheaper as well (the second tier ones now only need one character-specific material), you could make 4 or 5 weapons through the whole game depending on if you want an armor or not, which is pretty much everything before the expansion (except for Nitori and Satori, whose weapons didn't get new recipes for whatever reason). And then there's the higher rate for those items to drop from monsters too.

I think I actually preferred it the old way, since it motivated you to plan ahead before deciding if making something is worth it or not.

By the way,
>nor are most of Byakuren's scrolls and Satori's eyes
All you need is the +25 IND one and Satori's Green Eyes, although Beholder Eyes might be useful too for the magic nullification chance.

[Anonymous No.]

How much bonus stats do you get from formation buff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9709320
Yeah, that's what I meant by most.

>I think I actually preferred it the old way, since it motivated you to plan ahead before deciding if making something is worth it or not.
Yeah, I know what you mean. One step forward, one step back. That's Weekend.
I guess that just proves how good GoS is, though.

[Anonymous No.]

Most mages don't really need a good unique weapon since the weapons don't really give good mag bonuses compared to the attack bonuses of physical weapons. Also, hitting elemental weaknesses canmake up for a lot of the missing damage. I remember upgrading Marisa from the 2nd tier broom to the Orichalcum broom after I beat the mainstory boss. And Marisa still kicked ass for the entire game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9709332
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros/Formations/Bonuses

read up here anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>9709344
Yeah, Marisa's brooms are pretty good. Stick to the bomb-boosting ones, though. Why they thought Marisa would benefit from reduced cast time is beyond me. Same for Reimu's goheis.

>>9709332
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros/Formations
Wiki's slow right now, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9709320
Wait, no, I just double checked the wiki and now you only need 9 character-specific items to make every weapon before the expansion (other than the one that requires a high quality version of it) and 2 of those to make all of the two armors (obviously, not counting the strongest one). So I guess you can pretty much go nuts and craft everything whenever you want oh wow
Except, as mentioned, for Satori and Nitori.

[Anonymous of Gensokyo !NEw99Cirno No.]

I like this game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9706320
I put just enough points into her Snake to give her 3% damage to mp and dumped the rest into Youkai Hunter.
Give her the Ele boosting accessory and she can get the mp cost of Rainbow Snake or something equivalent back, even when she only hits one enemy.
Rage items in her other two slots for some extra regen, if you've got them.

I usually alternated between that setup and full Wind points when she got back to full mp.

[Anonymous No.]

I was grinding my lower leveled characters up just a bit for the final fight (Hence the awful party), and...

Somebody please explain what this is to me.

Note: It killed me to death, so I didn't get an encyclopedia entry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9709615
Stage 21, sometimes you'll get boss-level enemies with more than 30k hitpoints. These tough fights are there for various character-specific crafting item drops.

This specific one, iirc, is a super-yukkuri of sorts, with all the usual yukkuri stuff, except it has more hitpoints, some powerful attacks and doesn't run away. (Drops Marisa's item)

In my opinion, if you're not farming for the items specifically, just run from these fights. Most of them are a pain in the ass unless you're prepared for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9709627
Ahh, I heard about those. Another quick thing. Should I just go ahead and get the drop+Satori learn rate patch now? (Still on 2.09, I refuse easy mode, actually makes you think rather than autobattle)

I'm more than sure i'll have the final boss beat, and be on my way with the expansion by the time I get very many of those character specific craft drops from the bosses, and the drop rates+encounter rates seem stupidly low unless I wanted to abuse saves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9709643
>actually makes you think rather than autobattle
If you turn the toggleable easy mode off, there really is no difference other than the rate change, crafting, and the zero death penalty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9709643
Yeah, feel free to get the patch. It's not too big a boost to imbalance anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9709663
Ah, thanks for reminding me. I'd just gotten to the forest of magic and was wondering why everything was a pushover. It's strange that it's on easy mode by default.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9709663
Oh wait, I didn't even think about that. I hadn't yet read the thread, before I had the idea that 3.X was simply some optional download that had Easy mode only, and that was just it. (The patch I was actually referring to was in the older GoS threads, before 3.X)

Thanks, i'll have to grab that then.

[Anonymous No.]

About the miscellaneous quests in Lingering Summer Heat, are they missable?
I wanted to do the Reimu Yukkuri solo battle one but it's not on the board anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

About the miscellaneous quests in Lingering Summer Heat, are they missable?
I wanted to do the Reimu Yukkuri solo battle one but it's not on the board anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9709999

They aren't permanently missable, but they shuffle around once you complete some, so you can't pick the same one repeatedly, you have to do some others first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9710006
I see, I'll just continue then.
Thank you for the quick answer!

[Anonymous No.]

I stuck Patchouli in the back of my formation where it's (supposedly) safe, but it feels like she's targeted first in every other battle. Since she dies in one hit, this is becoming a problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9710055
This happens every time to everyone, it's some kind of Murphy's law, Patchouli is some kind of youkai hottie by their standards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9710055
Depending on which formation you use, there should be a drastic change in your enemies' targeting rate. At this point, you'll probably want Moriya or Hakurei. Poison and Red Eyes are my favorites right now, but you don't get them until (at the earliest) right before finishing stage eight and right after finishing stage nine, respectively.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9710055
Use Marisa instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9710181
But Marisa doesn't have earth, light or dark spells! Or enough strength to make a physical build viable!

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to re-fight Byakuren and Murasa?

The game bugged and let me recruit her after defeating a random encounter, even though I never actually fought them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9710392
What the hell?
I now entered a random battle in Eientei, and suddenly I'm fighting those two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9710392
There's a pretty weird bug in Weekend+Lingering, which I've been abusing for materials.

Basically, if you end a battle, all creatures on the field momentarily freeze and don't have collision. IF you happen to walk into the quest field monster, the game sets your next encounter to be the relevant boss, and you automatically succeed the quest as the field monsters are in a post-battle state.

Since the success screen appears, you'll receive your reward, you can repeat this process if you can do repeated boss battles like this.

[Anonymous No.]

To everyone mentioning they have extra silver keys after the SDM.
That's apparently a bug in the game since version 2.08. I just checked the Japanese wiki and they apparently never bothered to fix it, so don't worry about it.

[Anonymous No.]

Bosses feel more fragile than I remembered. Did Weekend do anything to them?

[Anonymous No.]

Some of Nitori's guns have "better slaying." Does that mean they get more of a damage bonus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9711520
Do you have easy mode on by accident? Then again, I guess that doesn't work on bosses.
>>9711760
No, they just have an additional slayer effect. All of them have warrior/magican slayer, but the ones that say "better slaying" have a slayer on another race as well (like transcendent, for example).

[Anonymous No.]

>>9712100
That can't be. The Assault Rifle, Royal Ordinance, and Shade 2010 all have more than the usual slayer but don't mention having better slaying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9711760
Check the Japanese wiki for the numbers on it.
http://www26.atwiki.jp/touhou_souzin/pages/225.html

I'm not sure which guns you're talking about, but some of the guns have stronger slayer effects than others. The ones that say "better slaying" in the description do seem to have a stronger slayer than the ones without it. Shade 2010 might not say it in the description but it's also has better slaying.