Touhou / STG General

[Anonymous No.]

Old thread:
>>9515928

Discuss why bullets are sexy.

[Exxel !Myon.xlUgo No.]

Streaming EoSD for the anniversary~

twitch.tv/exxelent

[Anonymous No.]

I still pretty bad at Yuyu oh dear... Beat her with practice mode!!!

Final card very hard. Thank ZUN there is a replay I can take hints from!

Can you please tell me how to avoid this happening at last card? Other tips too I still pretty bad ;__;
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23148

[Anonymous No.]

Who is the hardest boss on lunatic difficulty?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9558402
For the windows games, Byakuren. Not sure about pc-98s.

[Anonymous No.]

is there a tool to change keybinding on keyboard for touhou

[Anonymous No.]

>>9558402
opinions.

Eirin/Kaguya for me.

[Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip No.]

>>9558415
Either Byakuren or Remilia on max rank.
>>9558423
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=219.0

[b.b.hood !ponpOnMgkc No.]

What looks good at c82 besides astebreed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9558402
Remilia because Scarlet Meister is impossible

[Kirisame !Marisa/2.A No.]

>>9558402
Shou an Orin aren't particularly easy either

[Anonymous No.]

>>9558430
thank you so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>9558402
Utsuho for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9558402
Yamaxanadu

[Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip No.]

http://www.livestream.com/stouhou

Streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9558863
is it possible for you to use twitchtv? it's a lot nicer

[Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip No.]

>>9558886
No way. I'm not going to use a service that requires you to register to comment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9558911
boohoo it takes 10 seconds and theres no email verification

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>>9558920
Who cares. Stop defending forced-registration sites on 4chan, of all places.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9558941
you really are the worst

not even the same guy

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone actually play these games? I just like the characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9558960

I disagree

[Anonymous No.]

Has anybody figured out a way to get hourglass to work properly in Windows 7? I really want to dick around with it, but the Touhou games absolutely refuse to load when I use it.

I just want to get to VoWG without having to go through everything else. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

It happens again. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>9559314
Hourglass is made for XP and it's no longer being developed, so you're out of luck. Some things work with Hourglass in Vista/7, but they're rather rare. Running XP in a virtual machine could work.

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>>9559307
>>>/jp/

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>>9559707
I figured as much. Thanks anyway, I'll have to see if I can find my old XP install disc.

[Anonymous No.]

nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560037
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAwdisM_-wA

A week late.

[Anonymous No.]

How about a new challenge?

PCB stage 1 hard, gain as much cherrymax as possible.

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>>9564558

I have no idea what I'm doing.

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>>9559599
/jp/ is only for touhous get the fuck off with that shit to /v/ or /vg/ fucking faggot also ps raiden sucks dicks

[Anonymous No.]

I dont understand why, but Touhou 6,7,8 runs perfectly fine with wine, but when I run SA, the fps drops down to 17.

I am using nouveau driver, maybe I need to install nvidia drivers (annoying as fuck since my laptop uses optimus)

Running Linux Mint 13

[Anonymous No.]

>>9564624
Shouldn't be too hard on Mint. Go to bumblebee-project's website and follow the instructions for Ubuntu. Didn't take longer than 15 minutes for me (your mileage may vary since it's linux after all).

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>>9558402
I dunno why people are saying Byakuren...UFO is real hard on lunatic, but Byakuren herself is easier than Shou...She has 2-3 spells that are fairly difficult and that's all.
But whatever, not trying to start a flame war here.
I think Eirin personally, or Remilia depending on her rank

[Anonymous No.]

So, I grinded a bunch of stage practice all day long yesterday and managed to make it past stage 1-4 in Ketsui for once.

I grinded the hell out of stage 1-5 to the point of perfecting it in stage practice, and yet I still choke up playing it in a full run. How exactly do I beat this inconsistent play? It's rather irritating. Should I just play more full runs? Study some superplays and frame data? I'm guessing I'm just not playing enough full runs.

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>>9564624
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30538

If you can, try the newest Wine version first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9564558
>Or maybe you.

No. I'm not beating your 316.

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>>9565711

Did you get 3 borders for that, is it just a lot more grazing?

[Anonymous No.]

Just 1ccd Mountain of Faith; Normal, Reimu A.

I got it on my fourth try.
It seems a lot easier than the preceding games. I have been working through in chronological order all the integer games sans 9 (because it's not really a traditional STG).
Each of EoSD, PCB and IN took me about two weeks, then I smash MoF out in a few hours.
Is it considered the easiest Touhou? I had never seen it referred to as such on /jp/.
I had 4 lives going into the final stage endurance spellcard and 1 at the end though. That thing was a bitch.

Anyway, big gun time now. I have a feeling I'm in for a long haul with SA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9565932
It's considered one of the easiest Touhou games on Normal because of how many bombs you can get in it.
There's even a replay of how to bomb your way through every spell and non-spell in the game +more and still 1cc the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9565942

I think I agree with that assessment.
I found the spellcards to be ludicrously easy at times though. Sanae's in particular.
Some of the stage random spam was challenging at times though.

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>>9565932
I consider MoF to be the easiest Touhou to clear on any difficulty and level. I also think that SA has the hardest Easy, Normal, and Extra levels, with UFO having the hardest Hard and Lunatic levels.

Opinions vary, but I think that most people would agree.

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>>9565957

From my limited experience as outlined above (normals {[6,10]}\{9}):

MoF <<< EoSD < PCB < IN

I know that must seem strange but I had difficulty with IN more so than the others.

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>>9565976
>I know that must seem strange but I had difficulty with IN more so than the others.

Agreed. I've only normal 1cc'd MoF, and I'm closer to 1ccs on both EoSD and PCB. More time in IN, to boot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9565984

Troublesome Marisa and Kaguya?
That's what it was for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9565370
>How exactly do I beat this inconsistent play?
Too much memorization, too little skill.

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>>9565988

I've never even fuckin' seen Kaguya on normal, so I can't say. But yeah, Marisa (or Reimu, depending who I'm playing with) are an insurmountable wall right now.

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>>9564558

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>>9565370
How many times did you perfect it during practice? Doing it only once doesn't really mean anything; shumps can be challenging because you need to do everything consecutively. Keep practicing until you can perfect it *most of the time*.

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>>9565976
I'm at the same point and I find the difficulty to 1cc exactly the opposite, then again, I first 1ccd PCB.
IN is very easy if you're not afraid to bomb reimu/marisa to oblivion.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone streaming?

[Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip No.]

>>9566175
I am far too tired right now.

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>>9565932
Also take into account the fact that your skill gradually improve over the time it took you to 1cc those games. You were more skilled when you started MoF than when you started EoSD.
In my opinion EoSD, PCB, and IN are all much easier than MoF.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9565932
MoF is really easy. So easy that I almost 1cc'ed it without practice at all.I lol'd at poor Sanae's spell cards.

[Exxel !Myon.xlUgo No.]

Continuing my EoSD 1CC goal.
Looking for bullies and jerks.

twitch.tv/exxelent

[Anonymous No.]

>>9566562
EoSD 1cc Normal isn't really much of a challenge though.
Do it without bombing at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9565996
And how would I gain more skill?

>>9566020
I lost count, but it was a lot. I was playing from 12AM to about 9PM yesterday, doing nothing but runs of stage 1-5. I died/bombed at least once every couple of runs. Very inconsistent. But it doesn't matter, as soon as I make it to that stage in a full run, my death chaining skills appear to skyrocket!

[Anonymous No.]

I had been trying to clear PCB Normal for ages with Reimu A since I heard that was the easiest character to use. Then today I decide to try Sakuya A and get it easily on the 3rd try. Feels almost like cheating using 30 bombs, but oh well, yay my 1st Windows 1cc!

But I can't access the extra stage now because it looks like none of my data saved - probably because my touhou folder got moved from an old install of windows. Anyone know what I need to do to get my games to start saving my progress again?

[Anonymous No.]

How do I beat Sakuya in EoSD?

There's so much shit flying everywhere so quickly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9566735
Surprise, not everyone is at the same skill level. There are still people working on their normal 1cc runs.

[Anonymous No.]

What spell cards do you have trouble with?
Watching replays on youtube might help you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9567932
>>9568020
I meant to quote you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9568020
It's mostly the midboss part that gets me.

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>>9568060
I forgot to mention that her last spell card is also pretty bad as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9568060
midboss:
nonspell is only hard because of knife kitbox being weird, it's just tight dodging, no trick to it.
In spellcard you should stay still when she's throwing kunais so they form lanes in which you can dodge the knives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9566006
You're lovely.

[Anonymous No.]

vittu perkele suomalaiset pois :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD painu vittuun seppo-setä

[Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip No.]

>>9567126
I would just reinstall the game.

[Neo-/jp/ !b9GsDqVQg. No.]

1cc'd Suwapyon 2012, great game aside from only having two boss themes.

[Anonymous No.]

Where does Fairy Wars stand in terms of difficulty compared to the mainline Windows Toho games?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570077
It trades dodging for planning. It's difficult to compare because it requires a somewhat different skill set.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm playing through the games in order (on normal) and I just moved on to touhou 9. So whats the field you see when you focus?

[Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip No.]

>>9570077
I think the difficulty in FW is entirely artificial.
>>9570257
That is called the "scope". When you move it over a spirit (or whatever it is), it will make it vulnerable and easy to shoot. When you do, it will clear bullets on your screen and put it on the other one. If you don't shoot it fast enough after you made it vulnerable, it will shoot in your direction. This is why you have to use your scope with care.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Phantasmagoria_of_Flower_View#Gameplay

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>>9570077
FW is kusoge, don't play it unless you have a thing for utterly one-dimensional ice-on-bullet action.

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>>9570077
Similar to STB and DS more than anything. It is also ridiculously hard, because ZUN does the same thing as in the other mentioned games whereby since you can freeze bullets he feels it is okay to make nearly or totally undodgable situations. That and your freeze doesn't reset spells.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570276
I read that whole article twice before asking but didnt notice it. Thanks though!

[Anonymous No.]

>different skill set
>entirely artificial difficulty
>kusoge
>undodgable situations

Read: It's too hard for me.

[Anonymous No.]

GFW is fun. Maybe you forgot what that word means while trying to get your pacifist 90fps perfect clears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570359
>>9570377
I want to have fun by dodging bullets. Remembering when to press the bullet canceling button isn't "too hard", it's inane and boring.

[Pink Mage !CurlyBOCPY No.]

When everyone talks about 1ccing, are you talking about Lunatic?

Because I don't want to believe that everyone here is a savant in these games, and I don't really like playing anything below Lunatic because I don't see how I will improve by playing in Normal or Hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570440

It's usually specified. There are plenty of people here on both ends, I think.

I'm not sure how you got that idea, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570439
Dude, freezing bullets is fun. I bet you hate youmu in 13 too.

[Exxel !Myon.xlUgo No.]

>>9570440
Most people on /jp/ talk about Normal, of course there are a handful of Hard and Lunatic Touhou players that frequent /jp/!

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>>9570457
As a matter of fact, I do.

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>>9570440
With enough time practicing, everyone can 1cc Lunatic. Most people are going the Marisa's way i believe. Only a very small amount of people have talent like Reimu.

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>>9570461
How about that Soku fight with the other tripfag?

[Exxel !Myon.xlUgo No.]

>>9570457
>hate youmu

Impossible

[Exxel !Myon.xlUgo No.]

>>9570470
>hate youmu
Impossible

>>9570457
I went ahead and started looking for a new trip, still haven't found a suitable one yet though.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone streaming?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570481
And I quoted the wrong person, the second part of that was directed at
>>9570470

[Pink Mage !CurlyBOCPY No.]

>>9570448
>>9570461
>>9570474

I see, thank you.

Should I start by completing them in Normal and then going up until Lunatic, then? The only games I've beaten are PCB, but I used all my continues and Sakuya, so I don't think it's an accomplishment, and PoFV, but I don't think that counts.

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>>9570359

whouquot

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570510
Play many games and have fun. You'll learn what you like.

[Exxel !Myon.xlUgo No.]

>>9570510
I don't know if this is helpful, but what I did was find a collection of all the games, played them for a little bit, until I found one I was most comfortable with.

I ended up working on a PCB Normal 1CC first. I've only got three 1CC's under my belt so far, but I would very much recommend starting out on the Normal difficulty and on PCB as well.

Normal because you're less likely to get frustrated and I know from experience in trying to get my 1CC's that your motivation level is huge when you have a goal in mind. The more I die to dumb things that I've gotten past a ton of times, for instance, the more likely I find I mess up each time I restart the run.

As for why PCB, it's got a really forgiving gimmick that's also non-invasive, you really don't have to worry about it too much while you're playing other than to go "Oh cool I got a temporary bomb!". Also, I 1CC'd it using SakuyaA, although I was playing ReimuB not too long ago and it seems really strong too!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570547
>but I would very much recommend starting out on the Normal difficulty

I'd mostly agreed with this, although I currently play SA and UFO on easy because goddamn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570587
But playing on any touhou on easy feels the same, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570631

I'm not sure what you mean. The burning shame? Sure, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570547
What are you talking about? PCB Nomal is one of the easiest Normals.

[Exxel !Myon.xlUgo No.]

>>9570655
.. which is exactly why I recommended it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570666
Funny I keep having trouble defeating Youmu and Yuyuko on normal, compared to Sakuya and Remilia -_- maybe I need to play PCB a bit more

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570651
That, and not to mention you don't get access to extra stage (except IN I think)

[Exxel !Myon.xlUgo No.]

>>9570670
Youmu's spells have a really strange weakness in that going right through the middle of them seems to be the best option.

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>>9570670
Same here.
Sakuya and Remilia arean't really a problem for me but maybe that's because I grinded EoSD the most of the Touhou games.
Youmu and Yuyuko on the other hand are really giving me a hard time.

[Anonymous No.]

When I first 1cc'd PCB on Normal, I somehow survived through Yuyuko's very last endurance spell without bombing. It was my first time seeing it, too, and I had no extra lives or bombs whatsoever. It was fucking magic.

[Anonymous No.]

ohgod stop comparing EoSD with PCB. PCB is a lot easier. You get a shitload of resources,plus the damn cherry system. Use Marisa B and master spark Youmu.

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>>9570673

PCB also easy unlocks the extra. 6 obviously doesn't, 10 and 13 don't either. Not sure about 11 and 12.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570755
>Use Marisa B and master spark Youmu

If that's how you're playing Touhou then you should probably stop.

[Anonymous No.]

EoSD gets much easier when you notice that very many patterns can be skipped with simple, mechanical nudges.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570844

Not EoSD, but I find this to be the case with Reisen.
When I was first playing IN she was raping me but by the time I was done with it I was getting through her without bombing/dying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570844
Such as?

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know why you all seem to hate Fairy Wars so much. It's one of my favorite Touhou games. Freezing the entire screen at the right time is just so damn satisfying, man. Plus, that art. It's just a cool game all around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570833
I have no time to waste on a dork.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570871
Watch a video. The stages are littered with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570877
>Youmu
>Dork

Who.
Are.
You.

You and probably two or three others seem to scour threads looking for any mention of her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570899
>two or three

Yea right.She really is a dork so it's funny to call her a dork.

DORK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570587
>>9570833
>>9570899
>>9570907

whoquot

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570883
Oh yeah the stages sure but who cares about the stages when most of the spellcards are random shit flying in all directions.

>>9570899
She is kind of a dork though.

[Anonymous No.]

Waah, why is this stage so hard? ;_; Is Nazrin's midboss spell never meant to be captured ever? Same goes for Shou's second nonspell, shit is crazy. Real run-killers there.

Just in case I'm doing something else wrong, please tell me.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23185

[Anonymous No.]

This games are inhumane.If you lose your concentration for one second you are gone.It's not even funny,Stage 4+ is RAPE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9571366
Go ahead and bomb her mid-boss spell if you want, it's quite tricky, although bear in mind that the shorter her mid-boss appearance is, the more arrowhead shooting fairies appear afterwards, so prepare for some intense UFO summoning.

[Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip No.]

>>9570440
A 1cc with no context is generally going to be Normal. I would like it if people were a little more specific. Also, there is no problem with playing on the lower difficulties. Play where you feel most comfortable.
>>9570510
If I were you, I would play them all until you find the one that you are most comfortable with. What I did was clear each difficulty in UFO with every shot before moving on to the next one. I think that's a pretty nice way to train. I would recommend starting on Easy, but it's not a necessity.
>>9571366
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23187
Here is a replay of me pacifying it. The rest of the stage is pretty bad. My strategy for it is to stay by a laser when it spawns. After that, you must find a gap, account for the bullet acceleration, and try to make minimal movements. Maybe minimal isn't the word, but it's a special kind of dodging that's hard to describe. It basically means: "There's a whole lot of bullets around you; don't stupidly run into them".

My best pacifist attempt on the doom fairies is 1-miss, but I don't feel like grinding it just yet. It would be really fun to see someone do it. I'm trying to avoid playing for now since my hands are still sore from that grinding session.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9571881
You should stream a NMNBNUFO pacifist 90FPS run on easy Riz.

[Anonymous No.]

Protip for everyone struggling to 1cc Normal: play drunk. If your skills aren't magnified at least twofold while under the influence of alcohol, you shouldn't be playing Toho in the first place.

But really, I've gotten all my first 1cc's that way.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>9570674
Well... considering that time slows down specifically so you CAN go right through the middle of them, I'd say that's less of a weakness and more of the intended practice.

>>9572186
I play significantly less cleanly while affected by even a single beer, it's very unfortunate. I'll never be like ZUN at this rate ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

Just tried using a controller for the first time. I've 1cc'd EOSD and PCB on Normal with the keyboard, and while I've noticed that with a controller I'm able to move around more swiftly during the levels while not using focus so much, the precision-requiring spellcards fuck me up because I keep wondering whether to focus or not and end up dying. Should I stick with the controller and try to get better? I hear all the pros play with controllers and never use focus.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>9572314
>hear all the pros play with controllers and never use focus.
dude, what

[Anonymous No.]

I started with a 1cc on MoF with the glitch.
I continue with a 1cc on EoSD with MarisaB in Normal with the hitbox patch and at 30fps pretty much all the time against the latter bosses, even though I wasn't running bittorent or anything else (didn't even apply the retexture patch).
I was both happy and bitter to see the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9572356
>that smile

Why is ZUN's art so beautiful?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9572356
Oh well, in fact I just had to check "no vertex buffer" and "force 60fps" and it runs at normal speed now. But I'm back to having my ass kicked again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9572186
This is actually the truth, I play much better when I'm highly intoxicated. Actually, my first 1-ALL of DoDonPachi was when I was drunk.

I find that I rage far less at stupid shit like dropped chains when I'm drunk, hence less restarting, more time actually playing the game.

>>9572314
Use what you are comfortable with, there is no wrong or right controller to use for Touhou. Sticks are nice, and they give you that fuzzy arcade feeling, but they aren't exactly needed. You can do just as good as anybody else using whatever you're used to. People get high scores with the 360 controller of all things, and that is one awful pad. Personally, I use stick and a USB Sega Saturn pad for certain STGs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9572314
>I hear all the pros play with controllers and never use focus.
Funny, the last time I heard, the best players use a keyboard and focus when appropriate.

[Anonymous No.]

All of Youmu's STB cards are kicking my ass.

Even the first one, and that should never happen, ever.

[Anonymous No.]

So /jp/, what's the best strategy for getting better?

Trying to get good at lunatic and failing horribly multiple times? Or, beating all the other difficulties and then proceeding to lunatic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9576004
Play on Hard or Lunatic, then revisit Normal. Eventually, if you play Hard and Lunatic long enough, you'll 1CC Normal, and get good at the more difficult levels

[Anonymous No.]

>>9575354
>the best players use a keyboard
Not all. Not nearly all.

>focus when appropriate.
Either the last time you heard was 8 years ago, or all of the best players are playing post-IN games now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9575432
Don't be too hard on yourself, those are pretty difficult.

You mentioned the first one: I recommend flying high, above Youmu almost all the time. You'll need to fly down and up somewhat aggressively on the last shot. Attached a screenshot since I'm out of practice and couldn't manage a replay.

>>9576004
Just keep playing. I recommend rotating between games and using continues to expose yourself to a greater variety of patterns. The photography games and PoFV are particularly good for grinding up your raw skill level IMO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9575432
>>9576294
And there's the screenshot I forgot to attach like a dumbass.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm interested in checking out some canon Touhou manga. Should I visit them in any particular order?

[Anonymous No.]

If you're playing 2hu with anything else than a keyboard you're a fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9576513
explain

[Anonymous No.]

I only play Touhou with a controller, is there something I'm missing out not using a keyboard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9576513
I'm playing touhou with a computer, a monitor, a keyboard and some cables. Does that make me an idiot ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9576570

-worse controls
-getting along with retards such as >>9576513

[Anonymous No.]

>>9576557
Carpal tunnel and a slight precision improvement. I tried to switch a while ago, but using my right hand to move was like writing with my off hand.

[Anonymous No.]

If you're playing 2hu with anything else than a controller you're a fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

If you're playing 2hu with anything else than a computer you're a fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

If you're playing the keyboard with anything else than a Touhou you're a fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9576647
do we even have a music touhou

[Anonymous No.]

>>9576649
whata fuck man

[Anonymous No.]

>>9576657
I can't believe I forgot them.

[Anonymous No.]

If you're telling people they can only play their 2hu one way then you're a fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9576328

It depends what you're after, but aside from the groupings (the fairy manga are all direct sequels) they can all be enjoyed fairly independently.

Fairy series is more lighthearted. SSiB ties in with CiLR, they're (relatively) serious plotwise, with a great twist at the end. I didn't like the Inaba 4koma, the humour was too one-note. Ibarakasen is an interesting one, still ongoing.

I'd also recommend the books, aside from the Grimoire of Marisa they all provide great insight into Gensokyo. CoLA is my favourite of those.

[Anonymous No.]

am i ever going to 1cc eosd normal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9576812

it is doubtful

[Anonymous No.]

>>9576817
But the ball says yes!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9576104
>Not all. Not nearly all.
Sure, but many do. That and stick. Just trying to be terse.

>Either the last time you heard was 8 years ago, or all of the best players are playing post-IN games now.
You're an idiot if you think focusing has no place in PCB or IN score play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9577698
Calm down.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you people do Yuyuko's final card like GIL does it?

[naitoknaito No.]

Damn that ravage of bullets before Mugetsu, always end taking a life or a couple bombs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9577985
How?

[Anonymous No.]

Stage 5 is hard enough to control before Nazrin midboss, then I proceed to run into every bullet she fires ever, then I have to bombspam through the rest of the stage until I face Shou, where I dodge two of her lasers and hit the third one/get hit by every bullet ever in random-type cards, die to her descending bullets-type card since she just won't GET BACK HERE SO I CAN KILL her, die to death star imitation card and eventually wipe somewhere before stage 6.

Fuck, I tried. I can be a proud secondary now. I'll be laughing at LOL PADS *knifed* XD when I get my voice back from growling at Shou.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I get better at dodging random bullets

[Anonymous No.]

>>9578221
PoFV, they say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9576649
>>9576657
Also

[Anonymous No.]

>>9578212
Practice how to do the attacks without bombing/dying by looking at replays and play a ton of practice mode, possibly nbnufo. Then just get there with enough resources, dodge the things that you know you can dodge without too big of a risk and just bomb everything that you feel even slightly uncomfortable with.

[Naut No.]

>>9578221
play games where you dodge random bullets often

[SuperKawaiiDesu No.]

>>9578212
what difficulty? ufo is a pretty hard game on lunatic, but only if you're playing for score.

>>9578221
be less bad.
play pofv
get a better reaction time
i dunno

[Anonymous No.]

>>9578526
Lunatic, of course. I'd be shamed to rage like that on a lower difficulty.

[Anonymous No.]

i beat EoSD using two continues

i think i'm getting better

sakuya is still a faget though

[Anonymous No.]

>>9565932
> Just 1ccd Mountain of Faith; Normal, Reimu A.
> I got it on my fourth try.
I envy you. MoF Normal was sooo hard... I bombed every 10 second and still barely ever cleared it. And only as ReimuA (well bugged Marisa, yeah). All other shoottypes - completely impossible.
Touhous 6, 7, 8, 9 is so much easier than later ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9578777
Oh, and also - Sanae was freaking impossible to do without dying. Grey Thaumathurgy and such.
Only her last spellcard was relatively trivial.

And then it was Kanako... Ugh.

[naitoknaito No.]

Anyone knows how to dodge Gengetsu second to last courtain? The one which starts with a thick barrage of blue bullets-> small master spark + Columns of medium bullets + five streams of bullets.

[Anonymous No.]

The only thing that makes Shou impossible for me is CURVED LASERS

[Anonymous No.]

>>9578903

Did you see those warriors from the pagoda ship? They've got curved lasers.

Curved.
Lasers.

[Anonymous No.]

Those fucking curved lasers man.

[SuperKawaiiDesu No.]

>>9578877
i recommend using a save state and practicing it until you can do it in your sleep. ganbatte! (´･ω･`)
>>9578903
>>9578925
i hope a CAVE game one day incorporates curvy lasers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9578925
Just play RAYFORCE

[Anonymous No.]

I tried GundeadliGne again, and again get obliterated by this boss. Game isn't even that hard before it, I even tried to intentionally get my phase level to 1 and still lost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9579213

Does using the timeslow help much at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9578948
This is literally the first time I have ever seen anyway suggest a save state. Your fucking name I hope is ironic but even then it still upsets me.

>ganbatte! (´･ω･`)
You are not in Japan. You are not a supple japanese girl text messaging. Stop that.

Please, just go to /vg/, leave good touhou posts here and take your shit with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9579246
On this? Not much. I usually screw up on the pattern right after the one on the screen which throws me off and I mess up the rest. I don't know if there's a trick to it, or I just suck. Replays appreciated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9579307
Save states are perfectly fine, anonymous. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9579307
We're all little girls here.

[Nereid No.]

>>9578877
get better

[Anonymous No.]

aww yeah #pofv badasses run this place

[Anonymous No.]

#pofv canadias pls go

[Anonymous No.]

>>9576557
Delicious n-key rollover on crap keyboards like mine that made moving diagonally while shooting and focusing impossible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9578777>>9578800 here
Here, check out my replay. Pls.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23219
My MoF (normal) clear rate is about 50%. My Eosd-Pcb-In (hard) clear rate is about 90%.

Hell yeah, MoF is clearly the easiest touhou ever. Everybody should clear it in 1 hour max. Yeah.

Ps. Any advices?

[Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip No.]

>>9578212
This is Shou you are talking about, so of course she is going to be hard. I felt pretty similarly when I started fighting her for the first time. Just how long have you been working on this clear?

If you want help from me, post replays. Also, I can train you individually if you really want to. Just query me on IRC or something.

[Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip No.]

>>9581768
Your first three stages were perfect.
You got tripped up on stage 4, but that just looks like you haven't practiced it enough. You didn't stream when necessary and you got surprised by the masses of bullets coming from the bigger fairies. That surprise probably made you lose your focus and caused a lot of your later deaths.
You should learn the intro of stage 5. You can do it with one power on Lunatic if you want. It shouldn't be a problem with Homing Reimu at 3 power on Normal. I would also stand higher on Sanae's first nonspell.

I think your playing in general was great. You easily have the dodging skill and strategy to beat this game. You are also very good at bombing. I think that all you need to is to practice some of the blank spots and watch replays to take some strategy from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9581833
>You got tripped up on stage 4, but that just looks like you haven't practiced it enough. You didn't stream when necessary and you got surprised by the masses of bullets coming from the bigger fairies. That surprise probably made you lose your focus and caused a lot of your later deaths.
>You should learn the intro of stage 5. You can do it with one power on Lunatic if you want. It shouldn't be a problem with Homing Reimu at 3 power on Normal. I would also stand higher on Sanae's first nonspell.
So you think i should take some more time memorizing later stages (4-5)? Hm...

[Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip No.]

>>9581847
Yes. That's where pretty much all of your mistakes are.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought it would be my first 1CC. I really did.

I was totally reckless in stage 1. It was a miracle I didn't run into some random bullet. Then I had to use two bombs on Cirno, which normally doesn't happen. I somehow still made it to stage 5 with four or five lives. I had practiced stage 5 dozens of times before and I thought I would be able to get through it with losing two lives at most and then just bomb through stage 6 (MarisaA, so no Master Spark, but still). I was really getting my hopes up. But then I lost three (!) lives before even getting to Sakuya's Misdirection. It was depressing.

But it was my first 3CC and I managed to capture three new spell cards. I guess that's something. After that run, I practiced stage 5 some more and fucked up every single time. I need a break. But by the end of the week, I will have 1CC'd this game, I swear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582164
>Then I had to use two bombs on Cirno

Stopped reading there.

Dude seriously, I don't think you should be playing this game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9581768
I share your pain. I can clear the first loop of DOJ(Black Label, yeah, it's the IN of CAVE games, but still.) and I can hardly clear MoF Hard. Nearing 100 hours now and I've only 1/0ed it once.

Touhou really is harder, CAVE games are just a streaming tutorial etc etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582183

Don't be cruel to your friends, please.

[SuperKawaiiDesu No.]

>>9582164
two bombs on cirno? i sure hope you were drunk or just not trying, because that's awful even for a beginner.

[Anonymous No.]

There should be some kind of a requirement for posting in these threads, like having 1cc'd at least one Touhou game on Normal, same as how it's recommended to lurk a board for a while before posting in general. Not trying to be rude or elitist or anything, but there's just hardly anything we can do to help you if your skill level is insufficient to even clear a single game on Normal. Keep practicing and you're sure to do it eventually, but there's no real need to post in these threads asking for advice before that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582183
>>9582199
Why are you saying that? I even wrote it didn't normally happen. I guess I was being overly cautious after realizing that I hadn't been concentrating enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582213
Is there ever a need to ask for advice? The answer will always be practice, analyze and/or watch replays, right? I thought these threads were for general discussion. I don't see why beginners should be excluded from that. I think asking for advice should be excluded.

[Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip No.]

>>9582164
I know how you feel, but don't worry. It sounds like you are very close to getting that clear. I think that you will get it soon.

I'm in a similar position with my SanaeA (Almost wrote Sakuya) LNBNUFO run. I practiced it for months before switching to ReimuB, I practiced it the whole two months until I got my ReimuA run, and I've been practicing since. I've been trying to get it for about 10 months now. I've gotten two LNBNUFO runs since then, which were both detours from my SanaeA attempts.

I don't know if SanaeA is supposed to be particularly hard. Her dodging versatilities aren't particularly different from Reimu and her shot is very comparable to ReimuB. I also think she is pretty good for vanilla survival. I've gotten her to Byakuren multitudes of times. I've lost several runs on the last spellcard, and that was before my last two runs. It feels like I should have been able to improve and redo it since then, but it hasn't worked out.

I've been trying to pull myself away from this game and allow my aching hands to rest, but I haven't been able to. I feel like I should be able to do it easily, but I can't. It's confusing and frustrating. I also have SanaeB and Marisa to go. I really want to start focusing on them already. I'm tired of these SanaeA runs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582191
>Touhou really is harder,
Sure it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582286 here.
I'm just going to pretend it was a misunderstanding and you guys thought I was talking about PCB Cirno, not EoSD Cirno.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582335
been out for 23 years, loops forever still one of the most popular games in the genre and not a counterstop. definetly the most difficult game in the genre.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582356
Cirno is in PCB?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582360

She's the stage 1 midboss, didn't you know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582363
I guess I never paid attention to that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582356
Stop posting, you're just embarrassing yourself at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582356
Wait, so what you're saying is, it's perfectly fine to use 2 bombs on Cirno in EoSD normal?

No, I knew you were talking about EoSD.
And I don't think it's possible to use two bombs on her even if you were playing blind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582372
To be fair, cirno can blindside you if you haven't played for long or only practice other stages.

But 2 bombs? C'mon son.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582377
Yeah, but not on normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582376
Not perfectly fine, just more understandable. It would have really helped me if you had played along.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9581780
I've been taking this seriously since February. Maybe. I'm not too sure, it's been so long. I've practised this stage for 9 days with no discernible improvement. When I move, I run into bullets. When I don't, bullets run into me.

I've also got school again so I have around 30 minutes I can play this game (read: die to EVERYTHING on stage 5. red bullets, red background and red power items = can't see shit, captain) a day until I'm spent enough to kick a baby. If I wasn't gonna get it before, I'm sure not gonna get it now so I might as well give up. Or ingest highly poisonous amounts of caffeine and burst my heart while taking her out, which does sound deliciously vengeful enough for me.

Really, Byakuren is easier, what the fuck is this? She's just longer, but doesn't fuck with your mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582391
Honesty is always more valuable than lies, I hope you can appreciate that some day.

[Anonymous No.]

It's better to bomb rather than grind >30 mins for the 'perfect', bombless run, after restarting 100 or more times.

There's nothing bad being overly cautious. The player will learn soon enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582404
Better? In the short run maybe, but you can't get away with that every time. You have to learn to capture it sooner or later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582404
and then you're at remilia scarlet with 0 bombs and 1 life

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582404
And this right here is how you should never play Touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582404
You might as well restart if you die or bomb anytime before Stage 4. Sure, it's still possible to 1cc or get a high score, but the chances are slim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582427
Until I actually sat down and looked at the patterns I always had to bomb cirno's icicle fall, but then I noticed that there's a super wide path where you can just stand still. I still 1cc'd the game even when wasting a bomb on her though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582411
>>9582418
>>9582427
Lately I've gotten to the point where I die more than bomb. I like to score it easy.

[Anonymous No.]

I remember that I used to bomb both Cirno's opener and first spell card, and sometimes the final card. I still got my first normal 1cc of the game and kept going on. I was focusing on rescource management as a basic clear should.

Nowadays I'm one of the better players (I still do suck, though), and I still don't find it uncalled for if someone bombs Cirno on their first 1CC.

You guys are being gigantic faggots, and I'd love you to leave that for me. Or at least back up your arguments with knowledge of the games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582427
Huh no that's dumb

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582456
I don't know anyone who didn't have to use at least one bomb on Cirno the first couple times. Hell, I just beat up remilia and I still had to bomb Perfect Freeze because I got unlucky with bullet positions.

It's not like you're starved for bombs or whatever, you get 3 every life and I believe there's several you can pick up after killing a miniboss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582456
>I remember that I used to bomb both Cirno's opener and first spell card
>Nowadays I'm one of the better players

I'm laughing too hard right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582462
>and I still had to bomb Perfect Freeze because I got unlucky with bullet positions
That's exactly what happened to me when I used those two bombs, by the way. I thought mentioning that bombing Cirno was an unusual thing to happen for me was enough to fend off the meanies, but you can see how far that got me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582462
Not only that, but EoSD also appears to shit lives on you. I've hardly played it, but my first time on Hard mode, I was getting extends left and right. Certainly got much more extends than I would playing an arcade STG.

I want to play it more, but it just feels so old and weird. I do like the lack of hitbox though.

[Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip No.]

>>9582387
>I've been taking this seriously since February. Maybe. I'm not too sure, it's been so long. I've practised this stage for 9 days with no discernible improvement.
I don't believe that. You may not see or feel yourself improving, but I am sure that you are. Why stop now when you are so close? I know that you still have room for improvement. This is UFO Lunatic we are talking about. Are you really going to give up the opportunity to say that you beat UFO Lunatic? Do you want to miss out on that glory?
>(read: die to EVERYTHING on stage 5. red bullets, red background and red power items = can't see shit, captain)
I've never had a problem with not being able to distinguish these things. Per haps it is something with your monitor? Also, a lot of the things in stage 5 can be predicted and having to precisely collect power items is rare.
>I'm sure not gonna get it now so I might as well give up.
You think that you have reached the absolute peak of your skill and that there is nothing you can do to improve? It's no problem if you take a break, just don't give up. That's silly.
>Or ingest highly poisonous amounts of caffeine and burst my heart while taking her out, which does sound deliciously vengeful enough for me.
I don't think that I have ever done this before. Even on the rare occasions where I drink soda, it has no caffeine. I'm also a vegetarian and don't eat a lot of energizing food. I don't even drink coffee and I sometimes drink tea. I've been suggested by some good players that I ingest more caffeine, but I've never gotten around to it. Maybe I should try.

Anyways, I really think that you can beat it. You just need to keep trying.
>>9582467
Let's see your quality replays.
>>9582482
You can patch out the hitboxes in the newer games as well. I sometimes play UFO like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582467
Keep pretending touhou isn't 90% memorization I guess.

I still bomb Cirno when I get retarded bullet sprays, I also bomb Sakuya's spray on stage 6 when I'm tired and I bomb the shit out of Remilia, deal with it.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not autismic enough to memorize everything and then drop a full payload of bombs on the final boss to survive it. I think it's much more enjoyable to enjoy the game and get better that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582493
remilia's final spell card is super gay though

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582411
Of course he will. He didn't mention to bomb Cirno everytime he faced her. Even for some mind boggling reason he decided to pre-planned bomb Cirno, then it's still a valid strategy for getting 1cc. Bombing parts that you don't feel confident about is a form of good planning.

>>9582412
Then so be it. I will have no pressure if I arrive at Remilia with 0/1 or something. The stake is low, I will enjoy the dodging. There's still a slim possibility of getting extremely lucky and clear her, if not then, oh well next credit maybe. Then I will get additional benefit in experience from facing her.

>>9582418
Scoffing early mistakes is one of my method of getting scoring runs.

>>9582427
See >>9582458

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582502
Play until you almost die from a mistake, bomb, try not to make that mistake again.

Or just play MarisaB and press X to skip a spell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582502

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582502
>Bombing parts that you don't feel confident about is a form of good planning.

This is what secondaries want to belive.
That's the stupidest thing I've read in this thread and that's why you'll always suck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582509
Shut the fuck up already

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582492
I don't have to deal with anything.

Your logic is retarded and you're the one who needs to deal with it, I don't really give a fuck, you can keep sucking all you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582509
>secondaries
Not apart of this dick waving contest, but now you're just grasping for straws here.
Anyone who is trying to play the games and have a good time and get into the canon material is not a secondary, not everyone can be in the top 5% of Touhou players.

[Anonymous No.]

While I was playing EoSD, I got kicked squarely in the face while grazing Rumia's lasers.
I...didn't even think that could happen.
Dying on the first stage is shameful and I shall now proceed to commit sudoku.

[Anonymous No.]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh koishi is the last boss I need to beat to have 1ccd every game on normal or higher (including PC98) and every extra boss(not nculding PC98) I made it to the second to last card for the first time ever...but the one right before that I lost two fucking lives too, the one where she flies around with danmaku everywhere around her, how do you do it..............god even If I got scared and bombed, shed be at the bottom of the screen in an un attackable position

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582517
How about no?

You're the one who should shut the fuck up since everything you say is simply wrong and a perfect example of how not to play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582492
>Keep pretending touhou isn't 90% memorization

is this what terrible players tell themselves to make themselves feel better?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582528
but I'm not terrible

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582509
suck my 1ccs dude

[Anonymous No.]

I think everyone in this thread should relax and try to be nice to each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582531
Yea worthless 1ccs every retard, even the likes of >>9582164 could get, if you just go ahead and bomb every Spellcard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582467
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=20355
Still laughing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582492
>90% memorization
>I still bomb Cirno when I get retarded bullet sprays

Doesn't that kinda contradict each other?
If it's just memorization, why can't you just memorize it and not use bombs at all?

[Anonymous No.]

Would anyone be willing to check my replay of my first normal EOSD 1cc? I got it this weekend while I was drunk on sake and hardly paying attention at all. I'd like for some cool dude to evaluate how I did, as I'm not too sure myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582527
Don't be a dumb asshole then

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582541
Start showing your worthy, WR tier 1CC's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582527
I've given you my arguments why it's ok to bomb in early stages for simple 1cc, including Cirno. Now let's hear your counter argument unless you can't form one like a reasonable person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582545
>Easy

Pffffffffhahahahahahaha.

Please stop, I'm begging you.
I'll die of laughter at this rate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582556
Usually I do Cirno blind but once every blue moon you get a Perfect Freeze that just jews you in the worst way. That's what I meant. The ones where you're just completely surrounded and they all start to move inwards, thanks a lot game.

That's why it's 90% mem and 10% planning, if you plan correctly you can prevent stuff like that but when you play late at night *and* the game hates you well there you go, press X to not die.

[Exxel !Myon.xlUgo No.]

>>9582563
congrats!
I'm far and away from being good enough to offer advice , but I'd still like to see it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582572
Try beating the score, if it is easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9565932

Update:

I keep dying on Orin, things aren't going well.
No progress will be made for some time because I've had an influx of work.
Aside from that, I think SA will be a barrier on my chronological conquest for some time. I am though determined to keep at it and not go on to UFO until it's 1ccd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582574
Thanks man.

Here it is.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23223

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582578
>>>The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > ADTRW

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582572
Try beating the score, if it is so easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582573
Isn't planning kind of memorization too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582586
Is Easy the only difficulty you're able to score on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582592
>I can't

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582592
No. I also do blatant shitruns of PCB normal, extra and phantasm.

Are you able to score on any difficulty?

[Anonymous No.]

Yes, doing full survival runs in Touhou without bombing is the epitome of skill, the sole path to enlightenment and the only way to play. Gomenasai, my name is /jp/-sama and I train with my pirated doujin games every day.

[Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip No.]

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23222

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582591
I meant memorization here as something that supercedes individual games while planning varies from game to game. If you spot an empty part of the screen in Perfect Freeze, going there is better than going to a crowded part.

I mean the 90-10 was just an asspull but after playing through the game a couple times the challenge really isn't dodging the bullet patterns anymore, it's adapting to when the game is a jerk or windows update decides to pop up a window on top of my 2hu game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582592
look at this scrub, can't even beat an easy mode score.

not the competitive type, I suppose!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582592
Post replay/scoreboard.jpg or get out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582576
What kind of counter arguments do you want to hear?
Just listen to what you're saying.
>it's ok to bomb in early stages
Read it. Out loud.
Do you really need me to point out how retarded that sounds?
If you can't even get past the early stages without bombing, why bother playing at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582610
>>9582607
>>9582598
I'm not gonna taint myself, with playing on easy you filthy secondaries.

Post your score on Normal at least.
Then we'll talk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582582
Oh christ. I just realized I bombed twice on Cirno, and at really stupid times too. I totally didn't even remember that. That's hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582619
lol you shure told them

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582612
Because you can beat Sakuya without getting hit and only need like one bomb for Remilia's Tepes?

>If you can't get a perfect replay, why bother playing?
>If you can't pick up every single score item at the point of collection, why bother playing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582612
But what if you can clear the game even when bombing on the early stages, instead of dying in the early stages?

the recent UFO lunatic WR seems to make a mistake in the early stages.

It goes on. And achieves a WR with a huge gap to the former one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582619
do you realize how retarded you sound right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582622
Oh, so you can beat Sakuya and Remilia without getting hit and only one bomb but you can't get past the early stages without bombing?

Makes sense, sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582619
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23119

It sucks. It sucks a fuckton compared to the IN easy Yuyuko. It did not take nearly as many hours as the IN scores did.

Go beat it. It's on normal, high enough for you.


And be happy that it's me who is posting the scores, I'm worst of the scorerunners that are currently talking back to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582622
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582612
1. It might save a more precious resource in live.
2. People play for fun.

Especially in EoSD, the bosses movement are more random. They could move horizontally to the other side of the screen while moving down, which could result in much harder pattern than usual. Including Cirno. I don't know what's it's like when Cirno moves down in Perfect Freeze, shotgunning you in process anymore, but I suspect it's pretty damn hard for beginners, and good occassion to bomb.

[Anonymous No.]

You know, Seppo, those Easy scores of yours are good, but it's hard for most people to appreciate them. I wouldn't recommend dickwaving with them even if I personally think they're more impressive than UFO Lunatic 1ccs or whatever.

>>9582612
Don't be silly. Shin's latest UFO Lunatic MarisaA world record makes a pretty massive mistake in Stage 3, and the run fumbles again in Stage 5, but he still pushed beyond 3B. Everybody has different goals. Just because "do the first few stages perfectly" is yours doesn't mean it's everybody else's.

If someone is enjoying the game, they have every right to be playing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9582637
Where does it say he can't beat the early stages without bombing? Your post sounds like you consider pressing the X button once in a while on a stage that is not 5 or 6 like slapping your mother in the face or something.

>>9582643
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.]

Why do I even bother playing Touhou?

Every spellcard is stale now. I've ruined them all by countless repetition and memorization that nothing new appears anymore.

I've yet to 1cc any game aside from IN, and the latter was done by copious abuse of Reimu's deathbomb.

Every time I play I feel like a robot. I don't think I can ever return to the days when I still felt an adrenaline rush from getting to a stage i've never gotten before.

I just need to delete the games from the harddrive forever and forget I even played them.

Saged for useless rant.

[Exxel !Myon.xlUgo No.]

>>9582582
Like I said, I am nowhere near good enough to offer specific advice, but there are some pieces of wisdom I can give you.

First, you bomb at really strange times, I'm not one to talk about resource management since my biggest problem is that i don't bomb enough, but there were times where you were completely in the clear and bombed anyway, and it made me scratch my head a little.

Second, you like to hang out at the very bottom of the screen, there were a couple of times if you had looked for a vertical escape route you would have been fine, this was apparent mostly on Sakuya.

But other than that nice job!

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>>9582619

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>>9582637
Yesterday I got Evaccaneer to 50% and I also got a game over at hard Alice four hours later. Incredible, isn't it?

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>>9582657
try playing on hard or even lunatic and see how far you can go.
I had the same feeling couple of days ago when I tried to finish up my normal 1ccs with SA and I just kept on trying and orin kicked my ass every time
Then I started to play EoSD again on hard and found it more fun than banging my head against an annoying hellcat.

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>>9582657
How are the games stale if you can't even clear them.

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>>9582679

From having failed them too much, I would assume. I've gotten close to that feeling before. Usually the best thing to do is take a break.

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>>9582679
Maybe he isn't getting better. I'd imagine the game would become pretty dull if there is no sense of progress, be it stages, bosses or personal skill level.

[Anonymous No.]

I hate that I get bored halfway through a run. Stage Practice has spoiled me.

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>>9582658
I'd like to attribute my incessant bombing on being drunk, and honestly, I usually die with bombs left, so that helped more than it did damage. You're totally right though. I'll look into my other issues. I gotta say, just watching my own replay was pretty exciting.

[Exxel !Myon.xlUgo No.]

>>9582698
Nono, I'm not trying to bring you down that was a very successful run!

And I know the feeling, PCB was my first 1CC and getting though Ressurection with no lives made my hands shake when I could finally take them off the keyboard.

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>>9582703

I find being slightly drunk/sleep deprived/on benzos, etc. helps with the shaking nervous hands.
My best runs are often at 6am when I'm tired as fuck and ready to go to bed.

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>>9581768
>Oh yeah, MoF is SOOOOO EASY. Yeah. Fuck you.

Fuck me? Fuck you.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=4937

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>>9582191

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I play on easy mode because I can't take it easy on normal. Way too many bullets to dodge.It's not like I lack the skill but motivation.

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>>9582657
Try playing a game with simpler patterns that you don't have to memorize much.

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>>9582766
>I play on easy
>It's not like I lack the skill

Keep telling yourself that.

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>>9582657
Then just wait for Touhou 14.

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Finally managed to 1cc UFO (Normal)! Byakuren wasn't as hard as I expected her to be, but it was still an exciting fight nonetheless.

Funny thing is, I managed to pull it off the first time I played the game again after not touching it for a few months. I guess all those attempts at clearing Seamless Ceiling of Kinkaku-ji paid off, after all. Now all that's left is to 1cc SA and I can finally say I've cleared all the Windows Touhou game (on normal, which isn't that big a deal, but whatever).

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>>9582804
>I can finally say I've cleared all the Windows Touhou game (on normal, which isn't that big a deal, but whatever)

"I cleared all touhou games for windows" is pretty baller to be able to say.

[Anonymous No.]

Am I the only one who sees danmaku patterns when I close my eyes after playing Touhou for a long time?

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>>9582812
It's like that for everybody.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally 1cc normal IN finalB with Malice. Now only solo Alice, Sakuya and Youmu left. Since it's also UFO's birthday, i have to 1cc it with either MarisaA or SanaeA today.

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>>9582740
No, fuck you.

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>>9582812
If you ever have to ask "Am I the only one?" you probably aren't.

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>>9582427
>>9582418
>>9582467
>>9582612
20 bucks says these people haven't done anything more than clearing a few games on Hard.

I mean, fuck's sake.
>Read it. Out loud.
>Do you really need me to point out how retarded that sounds?
It doesn't sound retarded at all, you cocksucker. Bombing is perfectly fine from the second stage onwards, and sometimes on the first stage's boss too depending on the game.

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I just tried playing UFO seriously for the first time. Was this game made for people with ADD or something? Between all the UFO chasing, random shit, and Unzan's fucking hilarious spellcards, it was whacky as hell. I like it.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>9582657
The obvious solution here is to go play Mars Matrix.

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>>9582787
I bet ZUN is going to pull an SA with Touhou 14 again. Everybody complained that TD was too easy(it was, same with the predecessor of SA, MoF.) and now he's going to bump up the difficulty, hopefully.

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>>9582871
TH14 will be a Phantasmagoria game. Mark. My. Words.

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>>9582860
I bombed your mom on stage 1 last night.

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>>9582878
No, no, no.

Please not.

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>>9582871
That'd be good, I love SA.

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>>9582860
I was about to write a post almost identical to yours but then I just let it be.

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>>9582919
Why not?

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>>9582871

I dunno. Between SA and UFO it seems he reached a logical conclusion of "hard as fucking balls". Will he go back that far again? Honestly I kind of doubt it.

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>>9582486
It's heartwarming to think someone believes in me, but I'm not able to dodge a mass of single color that eventually scatters into a thousand identical bullets that camouflage within each other heading in random, completely unpredictable directions, gradually speeding up, covering the whole screen and eventually converging inward. Unless there's some really wicked sick place to start in during the hellstorm I'll probably have to offer my first-born son to the RNGod through some kind of unholy ritual to stand a sliver of a chance.

'Sides, if I take a break I'll just forget how to clear stage 1.

[Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip No.]

>>9582812
I used to, but that went away as I got more experienced. I kind of miss it. My eye floaters sometimes look like bullet patterns. Staring at a lamp and then closing my eyes makes me feel like I'm fighting Orin.
>>9582820
It's UFO's birthday? Maybe I should celebrate by playing it.
>>9582864
I like this post.
>>9582871
UFO stands in the border between challenge and absurdity. It's going to be very hard to execute a game that is harder than UFO without it being bad. But then again, it is ZUN. He knows how to make games.
>>9582878
I would be interested, but I'm not sure what could be improved from the old one.
*I got cut of. I'll finish this thread later*

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>>9583242
>Maybe I should celebrate by playing it.

How is doing the same thing you do every day a celebration? :v

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>>9582427
Perfecting the first three stages is meaningless if you haven't practiced the latter stages. You might get a 1cc or high score but the chances are incredibly slim.

Incidentally, I bombed on Keine during my first IN 1cc. I straight up died to Chen AND Alice in my first PCB clear and Nitori on my first MoF clear. Being a perfectionist faggot is a losing strategy.

>>9582804
My first IN 1cc was like that. Only took a few attempts after a pretty long layover, only parts of which I played other bullet hells in.

>>9582878
As much as I would enjoy that, why not just do a roster update for PoFV like Hisoutensoku did for SWR?

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>>9583012
Ha! Now that I said that, I took 40 minutes to get past stage 1 without dying, then proceeded to have three deaths on every stage ever. I can literally feel my skill fading away.

>>9583363
PoFV uses the older engine.

[Anonymous No.]

the new 2hu is a phantasmagoria game

[Riz !5.t9CxHR0g!!5lTr5XeDmip No.]

>>9583012
I can do it but you can't? Once again, this is UFO Lunatic we are talking about. It's not going to be easy. Also, I doubt that you can "forget" it. You might not remember all the tricks or have your reflexes until you play some, but you're not going to just "forget" it.
>>9583274
That's the joke.
>>9583719
That's nothing. Try spending DAYS trying to beat stage 1. Also, it's perfectly possible to beat UFO Lunatic while dying three times in every stage after stage 1. I would have done it just now if I didn't accidentally suicide twice during Shou and didn't mess up my token routes on stages 4 and 6. In fact, I could have cleared it with at least 4 stars left if it went perfectly, maybe more. I didn't clear it the one time I tried, but it was a fun experiment. I kind of cheated since I manipulated my deaths to give me an edge on token collecting, but that's more of a matter of convenience than advantage. Just tell me if you want me to redo it.

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>>9584191
stop it you're making me tingly