Saw this on /pol/, it kind of relates to the NEET generation, discuss

[Anonymous No.]

>Why are men not growing up and getting married in this modern age?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448.html

Today, most men in their 20s hang out in a novel sort of limbo, a hybrid state of semi-hormonal adolescence and responsible self-reliance. This "pre-adulthood" has much to recommend it, especially for the college-educated. But it's time to state what has become obvious to legions of frustrated young women: It doesn't bring out the best in men.
Still, for these women, one key question won't go away: Where have the good men gone? Their male peers often come across as aging frat boys, maladroit geeks or grubby slackers—a gender gap neatly crystallized by the director Judd Apatow in his hit 2007 movie "Knocked Up."
Single men have never been civilization's most responsible actors; they continue to be more troubled and less successful than men who deliberately choose to become husbands and fathers. So we can be disgusted if some of them continue to live in rooms decorated with "Star Wars" posters and crushed beer cans and to treat women like disposable estrogen toys, but we shouldn't be surprised.

Relatively affluent, free of family responsibilities, and entertained by an array of media devoted to his every pleasure, the single young man can live in pig heaven—and often does. Women put up with him for a while, but then in fear and disgust either give up on any idea of a husband and kids or just go to a sperm bank and get the DNA without the troublesome man. But these rational choices on the part of women only serve to legitimize men's attachment to the sand box. Why should they grow up? No one needs them anyway. There's nothing they have to do.

They might as well just have another beer

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a complete hypocrite because I agree with what this is getting at, but I meet the stereotype it's talking about.

Basically, I think men should be men. Traditional gender roles are fine, and I hate the effeminate or "it's hip to be square" culture most men in their twenties have these days.
But that won't stop me from watching little girl cartoons and leeching off the government.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

I'd kill a man for a beer right now...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9470918

>But that won't stop me from watching little girl cartoons

You might think they're made for little girls, but it's very obvious to the creators of the show that people like you watch it, and they profit off of your demographic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9470918

You think `men should be men' except for you?

So when you personally are a happier person by doing emasculate things it's OK, but if anyone else wants to be happy, fuck them?

Suck my cock dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>Where have the good men gone?

More like, "Where have all the good women gone?"

[Anonymous No.]

"But it's time to state what has become obvious to legions of frustrated young women: It doesn't bring out the best in men."

i am amazed one article can be this chock-full of generalization and fallacy and just general dumbness

[Anonymous No.]

It's just not worth it to seek a relationship with a woman these days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9470933
Well, I mostly watch older mahou shoujo stuff which probably was aimed entirely at little girls. I am happy the industry is starting to do this, though. Especially now that they're making seinen shows that are basically children's shows for grown-ups. I haven't seen it yet, but Dog Days sounds like a good example.

We live in the best time ever. I don't get why you'd want to be anything other than a manly man or a consumerist shut-in. Living in-between must be terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

Why bother trying to please society?
Why care about all this?

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>9470918
Though I don't find gender roles to be necessary, I do recognize the gender differences that created them.
That said, I'm quite comfortable in the 'lone male' category-- not a whole lot of femininity in me these days.
I am curious what it's like to be a girl, but it's a question that will forever be unanswerable for me. I'm just too damn male.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

There are a million articles like this.

Everyone with a brain knows that it takes two to tango, though. Men aren't manning up, and women aren't womaning up. It's just the way the game is played these days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9470955
This. Roles, responsibilities and expectations are a two-way street although feminism still insists on being more 'equal'. Blaming the guys for absolutely everything wrong with the world seems exactly like something they'd do though.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope we either abolish gender roles completely, or re-accept that men and women are different and have different roles in society.

We're in a very awkward place at the moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9470899
>They might as well just have another beer
Even ZUN is married.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9470943
Told you I was a hypocrite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471006

How exactly are sexes physiologically different other than having different genitals and a 25% discrepancy in usual muscle mass?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9470899
> Where have the good men gone?
Well you told them they were chauvinist, or tell gentleman they're gay, or tell not-gentleman that they're not gentle. So frig off and let me play dating-sims with girls that love me even if I am a dick and haven't done anything to make them like me.

[Ruby !!iPJbBu5S79g No.]

>>9470963

It's written by a woman, why would it be logical?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471024

hormones are a bitch; but aside from that, it's mostly the conditioning from society that people accept as a gendered persona.

[Anonymous No.]

Why even go through the trouble of typing out some bullshit like that? Women expect too much; they possess standards that are incongruous with their own personalities. It's society and the collective narcissism of women like these that don't "bring out the best in men". Men today are simply disillusioned. There is not enough positive incentive to play the part of "responsible actor" especially when that role only sates the whims of mediocre females unwilling to reciprocate the efforts of men.

I know this is par for the course for modern feminists, but I can't stand seeing such blatant anti-logic and egocentrism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471024
How dense can you be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471024

Their brains are wired differently. Women are more focused on tackling complex social problems, whereas men are more focused on tackling less complex logistical problems. Both are terrible at the other's role.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471080

Got a source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471080
>Women are more focused on tackling complex social problems
Like what? What exactly has the modern woman fixed in modern society? All I have seen is them forcefully changing the paradigm to their benefit. We live in a sterilized feminist world with an obsessive need to be politically correct, because convenient half-truths are more sensitive to feminine sensibilities. In other words, we live in a society drowned in lies and contradictions; a society where all people are created equal, but apparently some are more equal than others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471106

No, that's basically a rough explanation my dad gave me a couple of days ago when I asked him about the differences between male and female brains. He's pretty much a high school dropout that all of a sudden started studying neuroscience on a whim.

I could find a better source, but I'm a lazy fuck who doesn't care about biology in the least.

[Anonymous No.]

Sure, right here.

*grabs dick*

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471127

Your dad is your source?

XD

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471135
> XD
I seriously can't tell if that was trolling.
Please get out, Nathan. You're a fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471127
He doesn't seem to be doing a very good job of studying it. Please take whatever he tells you with a grain of salt in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471024
This is what trannies actually believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471127

that's good because a source doesn't exist

you or your dad are full of shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471135

Never said he was a source. I specifically said I had no source, that was just an explanation he gave me.

>>9471139

k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471106
>>9471139
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=differences+between+male+and+female+brains

[Anonymous No.]

Son, get the fuck out of /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471168

Wow, all of these fitness blogs and articles from amateur journalists are great sources. I'm sure these are actually peer-reviewed neuroscience studies in disguise.

[Anonymous No.]

I have never had a single female express any kind of attraction of any sort to me during my whole life, so why should I even bother when none of them even seem to care who I am?

[Deep Animu !EvaLOl..tQ No.]

>>9471080
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471106
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_humans#Brain_and_nervous_system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_psychology

Wikipedia is the best source.

But really, you only need to step outside to notice that men and women think and act differently. And that's fine. It's something to be proud of and use to your advantage, not something to sweep under the rug as though it doesn't exist. Though at the same time, I think if people feel they fit a different gender better, good for them. But they are outliers, and don't represent the "default" man or woman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471184
More than one link, turbo nerd. Stop bullying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471187
>>9471184
>>9471160
>>9471139
>>9471139
>>9471135
>>9471106
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Wxyfabex4

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471202

>But really, you only need to step outside to notice that men and women think and act differently

What the fuck is this supposed to prove? This is like trying to prove that loaves of bread are naturally dented by taking a loaf of bread, denting it, then holding it up and going "See? It's dented, I was right."

Men and women are bombarded with gender expectations and consequently develop gender roles before they're even aware of the purpose of their genitals. You are then going to take their differences in behavior as evidence that they're "naturally" different when they've been sociologically altered to be so? What an idiot.

[Mediator No.]

>>9470899
Upon further inspection, I can conclude that this post is pretty dumb!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471142

Who is Nathan?

XD

[athens !SysNpnp3nU No.]

In my experience, a lot of girls these days say they don't like the idea of marriage and "hate children".

Kind of sad.

[Deep Animu !EvaLOl..tQ No.]

ITT ancient moronic parapsychology used to justify delusions that there are meaningful differences in men and women besides muscle mass and genitals that aren't caused by society.

Why are you posting in this thread when you could be fucking your mother?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9470899
Every thread, same argument.

Pls read this pic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471225
>Men and women are bombarded with gender expectations and consequently develop gender roles before they're even aware of the purpose of their genitals.

One could imagine that years of different gender roles in society would have led to differences in the cortical organization of the male and female brain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471267

One could imagine that. One could also imagine that when you pee and it separates into two streams, a ghost is holding his finger over your urethra.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471249
Delusional tranny detected.

Is it a coincidence that in societies around the world men were the providers and women were the caretakers? Keep in mind these societies had no contact with each other.

[naitoknaito No.]

Men can't find their place in this world.
I wonder what will happen with this world in 20-30 years when we'll be keeping it.

>get the DNA without the troublesome man
It may be my man pride but why do I feel like those kids a doomed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471266

That study looks interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471225
Behavioural and neurological differences have been observed in apes.
Behavioural differences have been observed in humans who grew up in isolated environments.
Gender roles are largely the same in cultures that evolved independently of each other--of course, there are exceptions.

Please don't be so naive. Nobody is claiming either sex is better or worse than the other, only that we have evolved to think and act differently for good reasons. Men spent most of their time out hunting, and could impregnate multiple women. Women spent most of their time gathering berries and looking after their children, and could only get pregnant by one man at a time. Of course man and woman's innate attitudes and thought processes are going to have some differences. To insist otherwise doesn't make you a tolerant, equality-loving person; it makes you ignorant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471307
>It may be my man pride but why do I feel like those kids a doomed?

Because they are? Have you seen how many single mother kids go and lead a life of crime?

[Anonymous No.]

It's almost scary how society as a whole seems to view all statistics through a feminist lens.

When it's cited that more women finish college, we're supposed to accept that it's because women are better somehow. But when it's cited that more men finish degrees in hard sciences, we're supposed to accept that it's because women are being indoctrinated by invisible forces to hate math.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471283
Yeah if only there was any way to measure brain activity, volume or organization between individuals of different genders we could finally know the answer to this mystery.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471266

I guess I'm just another superfluous individual, then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471294

>men were the providers and women were the caretakers

Not the guy you are talking with here, but the fact that women have wombs which carry children and are therefore not at their physical best for nine months at a time might just lead to societies encouraging women to take more sedentary, protected roles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471302
We're the beautiful ones.

As to the OP, we're headed to where Japan is today, only that our native countries will be filled with 3rd worlders that the government keeps importing in order to fill in the demographic gaps left by we natives, who refuse to reproduce.

The main problem is that both genders have been made unattractive to each other in modern society. Women dislike us because we indulge fully in our hobbies, we dislike women because they are extremely selfish, irrational, and above all, opportunistic to a fault.

This is the end result of a society that has empowered women and rendered men useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471283
Sounds more like the work of a youkai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471346

N-NO WAY, MEN ARE NECESSARY, WHY CAN'T THEY UNDERSTAND THEY NEED ME? W-WHY DON'T THEY THINK I'M RELEVANT? PLEASE LOVE ME

[Anonymous No.]

Women are the ones initiating divorce what, 70% of the time. Why should men get married when women don't want to STAY married?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471307
It's the same with us wanting female androids/dakimakuras/real dolls/etc. We want the companionship without having to deal with the troublesome woman.

[Deep Animu !EvaLOl..tQ No.]

>>9471294
You really need to work on your reading comprehension; you interpreted the opposite of what was said.

And you seem to also believe that MAGIC created identical humans in separate parts of the world (creationist nutcase) as opposed to the population separating over time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471369

Got a source?

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ turned out to be full of Blank Slate apologist and even though we have athens in this thread he's not doing anything about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471375
As a matter of fact, I do.

[Anonymous No.]

Old article, and also:
>HYMOWITZ

[Anonymous No.]

Sex is obsolete, just like beating the crap out of each other with sticks is. What we should do is gather sperm and ova from healthy individuals, and mix-and-match them based on optimum genes. If you want a child, you can apply for a fresh infant based on some criteria, or you can gamble having your (or your partner's) reproductive goo mixed with some compatible stranger's.

The downsides are that certain races would die out, and we would be discriminating against non-existent children who have serious genetic disorders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471380

When I look up that book it doesn't have literally any of those figures in the description. I'm not paying $25 for it.

[Anonymous No.]

What is there to discuss? How women are losing their meal tickets? How terrible, guess they'll have to adapt, just like all the men did when women discovered they were now free to be total whores. I don't see any benefit in starting a family, it costs too much money and sucks up years of your life.

[Anonymous No.]

There is simply very little benefit to getting married these days. To be able to be happy alone is true freedom.

Single:
+Loads more money than you need. Can live in a cheap apartment and eat cheap food to have extra money for interests.
+More potential for a successful career. Not that I think everyone needs to, but /jp/ has some threads topics that require a pretty high paying job to participate in.
+Able to travel and relocate without hindrance.
+Can enjoy free time however you choose since I have no female to get jealous over how my doll is cuter than she is.
-Must be mentally strong enough to bear the burden of being alone.

Married:
-Locked in place.
-No extra money
-Can't enjoy your hobbies because having fun is immature.
-Strong independent women forget that the point of a relationship is to have someone trust to depend on. They only think of advancing their on position/status in life.
-(Most men these days probably do the same as above, but its not particularly any of my concern since I'm not marrying a man)
-Good chance of divorce.
+If you get lucky, you will have someone to love.
+You can have kids. (Unless you get divorced and they are taken away)

[Anonymous No.]

http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/08/19/the-feminismhappiness-axis/

Reminds me of this. I wish other countries would get in line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471400
>Single:
>+Loads more money than you need
I was amazed when I saw how much my father was getting when he was single. Poor fucker. And he still manages to have an affair, I don't even.

[Anonymous No.]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/thf_media/2003/pdf/Bookofcharts.pdf

A MUST-READ FOR ANY BUDDING MISOGYNIST.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471397
So basically the conclusion is that having more leisure time makes you happy? Who would have thought.

[Anonymous No.]

What "NEET generation" ?

You can't live without at least seeking work, except in countries that are basically parasites on working countries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471434
>except in countries that are basically parasites on working countries.
You mean "developed countries"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471430
The point is that feminism served its purpose long ago. At this point, it's just women being power hungry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471400
>>9471415
Because I'm lazy, does anyone have that BBC article about how much it costs for a standard quality of living in a typical family?

It wasn't particularly gender/marriage-related, though it was very interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471442
No, you don't understand. Feminism is about subverting the social power structure that implicitly enables male dominance. You just don't notice your advantages because you're male.

[naitoknaito No.]

>>9471400
Where is love.....

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471456
Some other plain of existence, because it isn't on this world, at least not anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471442
Feminists are a minority, though. 4chan gets too hung up on them as though every second woman is some man-hating Feminazi.

Most of the remaining feminists should be ignored. They're basically like attention-starved trolls. Any group has "those people" who whine about discrimination.

It is a shame though, because, like you said, there were real issues surrounding women that proactive women managed to solve. Suffragettes have my respect.

[Anonymous No.]

liberated woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471465
Hey neat, people I agree with.

Getting butthurt about words is dumb. 4chan is the perfect example because nobody cares if you call someone a nigger or a faggot. Political correctness over racist or sexist terms just makes them stronger.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm acknowledging that I am part of the problem and not the solution.

I am now not doing anything to change that fact.

I don't like how most women I have met act.

I don't find most women attractive due to my unrealistic standard for 3D women.

They will never find me attractive due to their unrealistic standards as well.

I don't make enough money to satisfy a woman's selfish need to buy unnecessary things.

I don't, myself, purchase unnecessary things.

I sometimes feel very alone.

But not so much that I would seek female companionship.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Quick question:

Does or will this affect my Japanese cartoons and porn games, or my God-given right to free money from the government?

If not, a) Why do you care?, and b) Why is this not in /r9k/?

Women could be dancing around naked slicing men's dicks off for all I care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471489
She's right, though.

If I was murdered I wouldn't give a shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471476
I don't understand what point they're trying to make when they do things like this. Aren't they just humiliating themselves/doing stupid shit for fun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471503
You're fucking stupid. Getting killed is worse than being raped, end of story.

Last time I checked rape victims did not have a 100% suicide rate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471489
I wouldn't give a fuck if I got raped. I can understand being scared while it happens to you, but unless you're a child, a teenager, or mentally retarded, why would it traumatize you? It seems like something that should be easy to get over after about a week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471510
Not accounting for (normally) the wave of people around the person who is deeply affected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471456
I put one + under married in the event you get lucky. I'm not 100% 3dpd, but its just that most people in general are in fact pig disgusting. I'm ok that no one is perfect and I don't expect it, but most people don't even seem to try. In the event that I were to get into a relationship, I would give my all to that person. However, it seems that would be a sign of weakness in this society.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471471
Even if there are few people who care enough to try to bring about changes, there are way too many people willing to listen to them, because it's not politically correct to deny anything a feminist says.

Don't you remember when they were trying to take away our liberties to play eroge?

[Deep Animu !EvaLOl..tQ No.]

Being inconvenienced for upwards of 10 minutes is much worse than being killed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471360
>>9471360
Ha you are a funny guy /jp/. Do you want to come over to my house after school? My mom bought me the Rozen Maiden complete box set we could watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471504
I think that they realized they can't keep people from calling them sluts, and instead they're trying to relabel slut as a positive word.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been too brainwashed by movies, so I always feel like I'd inconvenience a woman if I talked to them. And without talking, the road to marriage is tricky.

Growing up on the other hand is just a question about opinions. Some think you need to have one night stands and drink beer all day to be a grown up. I think all I need is to take responsibility for myself and treat others with respect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471547
>And without talking, the road to marriage is tricky.
Unless you marry a deaf woman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471542
Good for them. I know the snappiness of women holding up banners proudly proclaiming they're sluts makes all the /r9k/ nerds butthurt, but I'm actually glad they're admitting it. The misogynists should be happy, because it basically cuts a whole step out of any argument with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471559
They love stories in any form. We don't like to comunicate with women. End of story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471547
>Some think you need to have one night stands and drink beer all day to be a grown up

It's terrible that this is what most grown-ups see as fun. I enjoy alcohol and sexual gratification, but the fact that normals work and live "for the weekend" like this is just so depressing.

What's even more sad is that they know they can have better, they're just too embarrassed or proud to like the sort of things we do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471583
Throwing away 5 days to be able to have fun for one day and relax for one day. I can't even fathom how this became standard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471416
A lot of the "consequences of sex" they listed is just the usual abstinence pandering shit that can easily be avoided simply by being a responsible human being and not having sex if you have an STD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471645
Because in the interest of competition, the person who does the most work will more often than not win. It's natural selection, which for some reason we haven't been able to rid ourselves of even though we have incredibly efficient agriculture and good enough medicine for most people to survive with minimal work.

[Anonymous No.]

Besides serious illness and maternal leave, does a working age adult ever get more than a month off before they retire?
Does the typical person really work for most of their life? That is, every single weekday for four or five decades with only relatively short breaks in between?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471510
Calm down and think for a least a few seconds. Literally everyone in existence can expect to die at some point in their lives and most have gotten over and accepted this. The average person can reasonably expect to not be raped within their lifetime.

Once you are murdered, that's it, you're done. If you are raped, you'll have to live with the psychological damage with the rest of your life (well, you don't HAVE to, but you know what I mean)

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471685
Yes, because most people who spread STDs or get pregnant at an early age are doing it on purpose.

Congratulations Anon, you've cracked a complex social issue. What's next on your agenda? "People should just stop getting cancer, then it won't be a problem any more"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471645
>>9471678

I wish I could find these three or four youtube videos I once watched by this guy whose name I can't remember that talked a lot about this. I wish to god I could remember the details, but he talked for hours about things like leisurely activity being ultimately beneficial for society and that 4 hour work days with everyone employed would be better than 8 hour workdays with only some people employed

God. I can't even remember how I found the stupid video. I was probably linked to it off of /jp/..

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471514
>>9471510

Actually that brings up an interesting part. What exactly is painful, in every definition of the word, about rape? The rape itself or the its reputation and the reaction the general public has to rape?

People (including men of course) have been raped as punishment or just as a form of humiliation for a long ass time. I'm talking Classical Period. Can we suddenly just change our perception of it just like that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471724
Which is the point she was making. The Anon you're replying to has misunderstood. She did not say that rape was worse than murder, just that it didn't matter because you're no longer alive.

It's similar to how I'm not going to bother deleting my questionable pornography before I die. I'll be dead, who cares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471724
What "psychological damage"? I can understand if you were brutally raped repeatedly for years or something, but any "psychological damage" from a single instance of rape is nonsensical self-victimization unless you're severely injured and spend months in a hospital.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471731
>people get cancer on purpose

nice...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471724
>Once you are murdered, that's it, you're done.
> If you are raped, you'll have to live with the psychological damage with the rest of your life

>If you are raped, you have to live with it for the rest of your life
>rest of your life

If you're murdered and you're 23 years old, your life is over. If you're raped and you're 23 years old you could live for another 80 years. 80 years to experience anything life has to offer.

The idea that being raped is worse than being killed is one that has no basis in logic, nonexistance can never be preferable to existance. By simply existing you have an infinite number of possibilities ahead of you, by not existing you have no possbilities of anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471706
Most people get a weeks vacation and a fairly decent amount of sick time. I would really like to ask my boss if I could just work part time. I make more money than I can spend because I'm always at work and have no time (or wife) to spend it. However, I don't expect any decent job would allow such a thing.

>>9471724
By that definition, stubbing your toe is worse than death since when you die you don't have to worry about it that you are dead. Plus, I have also not accepted that humans will not discover how to become immortal within my lifetime. It is theoretically possible, so there is no reason to give up home.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471737
Search the archive? Sounds interesting.

Ideally, I definitely think people should work less, but companies should employ more. They might even be able to get away with paying the same they do now. Just hire two people instead of one. I guess people would feel they need more money though, and then argue to be overworked again so they can buy more iPhones.

Also more companies should hire at night. I don't know why this is so rare. I should be able to get a job in an office from midnight to the early hours of the morning. Human beings are perfectly capable of sleeping during the day, and it would be neat if towns and cities were about as active and safe at 2am as they are at 2pm. You could effectively double your business.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471759
Oh come on, don't trivialize it. It is a traumatic event even if it's brief, and it does affect people independently of other people going on about it. Plenty of rape victims end up not reporting it, but suffer mental damage anyway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_and_aftermath_of_rape
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_trauma_syndrome

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471767
>nonexistence can never be preferable to existence

You do realize you're posting this on Depression & Suicide General.

>By simply existing you have an infinite number of possibilities ahead of you

Sounds like indeterministic bullshit. Enjoy your magical fairies governing your body from the parallel world.

[Ruby !!iPJbBu5S79g No.]

>>9471779

If you make more money than you can spend, shove the excess in some combination of CDs, Stocks, Bonds, and potentially a little bit of Precious Metals. Your savings should enable you to retire early.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471779
But the way it was written is going by the event having already happened.

Whose thoughts and opinions matter more: a dead person's or a rape victim's?

[Anonymous No.]

“If you had two people coming for a job, and one of them was dead, which one would you pick?”

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471923
The dead one, he wouldn't bitch at me for a raise.

[Anonymous No.]

>Not so long ago, the average American man in his 20s had achieved most of the milestones of adulthood: a high-school diploma, financial independence, marriage and children.

Men realized that all of this shit is completely pointless and a waste of time. Women still think it matters.

As always, women remain a step behind everybody else. They'll realize soon enough, but until then they can waste away their lives trying to become CEO or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

> If you are raped, you'll have to live with the psychological damage with the rest of your life
If they think it's that bad to live with that 'psychological damage', just commit suicide. Just like how in the old days men would rather kill himself in honor rather than living in shame for the rest of his life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471486
i like you

[Anonymous No.]

Feminism is getting out of control.

I suspect it is only a matter of time before I am marched into the street by the secret police, to be forcefully wed, as I did not already do it of my own volition and am thus a misogynist.

[Anonymous No.]

Obviously getting raped is worse: getting killed ends your suffering forever, getting raped only gives you some sexual pleasure.

[Anonymous No.]

The more you people write about your opinions on these matters the less I feel like a special snowflake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471397

>“Maybe this will turn out to be the fourth wave of feminism. Women protect the possibility that one day we’ll wake up to realize that life is not all about acquiring more material wealth, power, status. Many Dutch women that I know want to stay sane, happy, relaxed.”

Dutch women sound great. They know that taking it easy is top priority, unlike everyone over here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472056
Welcome to 4chan: the darkest and edgiest corner of the Internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>It’s hard to argue that people who choose the lives they want, and opt for happiness rather than titles, are not empowered. (I grew up in the Netherlands with a Dutch mother and a Canadian father and came of age watching my female relatives—who hail from educated, middle-class families—repeatedly prioritize free time over career progress and money.) Nevertheless, Mees argues that striving for happiness is slowing down progress in the women’s movement. “Happiness is overrated. It’s defined as the absence of problems. But it’s good to have challenges in your life. I believe in another kind of strength that women should have.”

Stupid American women.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not sure whether real people believe this >>9472039 or it's just a troll pretending to be an idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>Adapted from "Manning Up: How the Rise of Women Has Turned Men Into Boys" by Kay S. Hymowitz
>Hymowitz

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472063
This. They seem to understand what feminism should be about, which is being a woman and taking it easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472117
>Happiness is overrated

Jesus fuck

[Anonymous No.]

Reminds me of Riders of the Purple Wage.

Soon comes the elimination of scarcity, leaving everyone to frolic and play however they see fit. Hopeful sex with children and police who ride only in golf carts with silly fur suits on will be expected after that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471397
>“Even at the University of Amsterdam—the most progressive university we have—I had a 22-year-old student say, ‘Why is it your business if my wife wants to bake cookies?’ and the female students agreed with him! I was like, what’s happening here?”

Wow. Seriously? Dutch women sound amazing. Why *is* it this bitch's business if they want to bake cookies?

Goddamn. I knew the netherlands were generally a kickass place to live, but this is just like a cherry on top of the most amazing sundae you've ever had. I really need to learn Dutch and move there someday

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472151

Yet another victim of the matriarchy.

もう知らん
薄暗くなる
死ぬの抱く

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472173

It's like /v/'s "fun is a buzzword." Were this not an actual article with real life people speaking in it, I seriously wouldn't know if these people are trolling or not

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471397
>And while across the Channel, British media are heralding the resurgence of feminism—last weekend, some 500 women crowded into a feminist training camp, UK Feminista, to be trained in direct action and activism—in Holland, women like Van Haeren baldly proclaim no further need for the movement. “Feminism wasn’t necessary anymore by the time I grew up,” she says. “In my eyes, it was a thing of the past.”

Never change, you glorious people. Never fucking change.

[Anonymous No.]

Bitches and whores, amirite guys? xD

[Anonymous No.]

Post the "mean while at a university" pic with the feminist jew

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472239

Why are you even here?

[Anonymous No.]

"They're in my ass! My ass! Arrgh!"
- Traditional

[Anonymous No.]

Women don't even understand their own genetic impulses and they expect us to take them seriously?

Women can't entertain me like a video game, can't satisfy my hunger like my own cooking abilities, can't satisfy me sexually like my hand can, and can't hold an intelligent discussion like men can.

Woman are obsolete in today's society and it's only the laws which force people to employ them which makes them relevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472201
That poem was beautiful. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472251

I wanted to complain about women I never encounter or deal with in real life and I lost the URL for /r9k/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472117

>Happiness is overrated.

Feminists

[Anonymous No.]

Well let us wait for 10-30 more years, to see how this matter develops further. Don't open the portal yet.

[Anonymous No.]

How hard is it to immigrate to the Netherlands?

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any cults like Amish but allow Internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472263

読んだ人
返事をもらう
世辞のよう

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472271
OPUN PARTULL HURR

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472279

Hard, like all of the EU countries.

Just spend the next year working out and getting hot and then marry Dutch person. It's easier than jumping through all of the immigration hoops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472279
Dutch are apparently range-banned from 4chan, and have to come in by proxy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472306

Really? W-well, I guess if I have to pick between /jp/ and a utopia where even the women turn their nose at feminism and there is amazing internet everywhere..

I-I... could never leave you, /jp/. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472304

>Just spend the next year working out and getting hot and then marry Dutch person. It's easier than jumping through all of the immigration hoops.

Aren't all dutch people extremely beautiful? What chance would I have to convince one of them to marry me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472306
I don't think so, I'm not having any problems without a proxy at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472306
Wrong, only country range banned is Chima. There are other ISP bans however.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472326

>Europeans
>Beautiful

HA

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472304

Really, /jp/? You would sell your soul to a 3D just like that?!

You have no honor!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472326
It's the same as any other country, some good looking, some bad, some average. The only difference you'll find is that they'll probably be a little taller than you're used to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471514
Because you'll be ruined for marriage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472200
What about Scandinavia?

[Anonymous No.]

This photograph is example of the Dutch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472425
Apparently they force autists to do slave labor instead of giving them free money like a civilized country.

[Anonymous No.]

Germans are a pretty people.

Pretty girls swishing around East Berlin in long summer dresses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472451
Germans are profoundly depressing, meritless irritants

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472451
Post a picture anon, I like summer dresses.

[Anonymous No.]

Russian girls are not pretty. The slavic ones at least, which make up the majority of the models, so I assume are also representative of the population as a whole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472451
Germans are rotted logs, not human beings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472488
Define "slavic"

You moron

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472466
Nothing wrong with being profoundly depressing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9470899

I think men are tired of the bs; that getting involved with a woman means that she has legal power over you, that overspring production is not-helpful to the environment and means personal enslavement, and that there's more pressing issues of basic economic survival & maintenance of self.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472501

They have a fair share of Turkic, Uralic, and Mongoloid peoples, but I wouldn't call any of them particularly attractive; among the Eastern Europeans, Ukrainians trump Russians, ethnic or minority.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472501
Slavic (noun, adj): Ugly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472524
dude, you just called yourself a moron dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>9471320
You're wrong. The larger factor in those family models is socioeconomic status. The children of a wealthy single mother will still do much better than the children of a poor two-parents family.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472588
More like you'll suck an HIV+ dick and die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472364

How do these tall European girls generally feel about average/slightly below average guys? Around 5'10" or I guess 179cm.

I can train body to look as good as possible and I can learn to mimic normal people, but there's not much I can do about height if I'm attempting to attract European girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472749

Could you just leave and take your woman-poaching discussion to /trv/ or /soc/ or /facebook/ or wherever? That would be great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472588
And single mothers tend to be poor.

[Anonymous No.]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlvMAS_20K4

[Anonymous No.]

>>9472826
Amazing video 10/10 would listen to her again. Absolutely wonderful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9473419

seconding, explains a lot of my condition.

[Saten !RuikoL4OGU No.]

Do people really care about this baloney? I am perfectly content playing video games, watching annie mays and the rest of my hobbies. The occasional "are you gay?" is annoying, but changing my lifestyle to suit society's retarded expectations would be even less manly. Women that complain like this just want some dork to provide everything for them, or are simply lashing out because their clock has expired. Live how you want, nerds!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9473613
Sometimes being asked if you're gay isn't the worst thing. I have rather "manly" hobbies like collecting firearms, lifting, cars, and golfing among others. My mom always tells me to stop sleeping around with girls and that I'm offending God and am going to catch a disease. I'm really offended by that, I would never sleep around with someone I didn't love and was willing to pledge my life to.

Ironically enough, I actually am gay.

[Reisen's Husbando No.]

/jp/, want to start our own country where we don't have to worry about all this normie bullshit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9473730
The country will then have to submit into international (read: American) pressure, then the rest is history.

Best thing to do is just ignore these articles. They whine, but they don't offer any solution. They keep on whining because they know they can't - or aren't willing - to offer a solution where they have to compromise. They'll keep on whining until hopefully the white knights will do something about it, then they'll keep on whining some more.

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry, feminists and normals, but I can't be bothered with the 'where have all the men gone' argument.

Women brought this upon themselves. They better learn to appreciate a man once in a while. The way I see it, if you're a man, you're disgusting. Society nowadays won't let men be men. It's sickening.

I'll stick to my 2D girls than deal with that crap, thank you very much.