/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone here have weeaboo mentalities like grinding your teeth every time a baka gaijin says Haruhi Suzumiya instead of the proper Japanese name order or you can't even tolerate the deplorable thought of some little white boys mistakenly believing that Naruto is American animation because it aired on Cartoon Network?

[Anonymous No.]

Only when someone mispronounces something Japanese, like names of shows. Not to where I expect them to say shit like Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu every time

[Anonymous No.]

I knew a black kid that thought death note was a marvel comic - I chewed my food a little harder

[Anonymous No.]

everytime when someone in /jp/ says "pantsu"

[Anonymous No.]

why does everyone hate when englishes mangle japanese, but nobody cares when zun mangles english

[Anonymous No.]

No. Instead I cringe when people who are weeaboos ask me shit like "how do you ssay thank you in Japanese?" "I really want to visit japan and buy anime its so kawaii!"

[Anonymous No.]

No, I don't really give a shit if people demonstrate less than complete knowledge of random Japanese shit nobody fucking cares about.

If they deliberately parade their ignorance or masquerade as experts, then yes, but that's true for all fields, not just random Japanese shit.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel that it's not necessarily incorrect to say them in that order, we are speaking English. Only weeaboos would want to provide that much dick sucking "respect".

[Anonymous No.]

but naruto speaks english, it is american

[Anonymous No.]

>>9444474

I'm like him

[Anonymous No.]

Terms that don't exist in English like "seinen" or "zettai ryouiki" are fine. It's also fine if you need to make a distinction from Western equivalents, like saying "anime" or "eroge".

Words like "kawaii", "moe", "pantsu" and "bishie" should never be used non-ironically. And I don't care if you can't think of an English substitute, or you feel it has some connotations that meet what I described above--you're guilty of the same crime as all those teenage girls are.

[Anonymous No.]

I have that mentality where I compulsively press the report button every time a baka gaijin (tl note: baka means retarded, gaijin means outsider) makes a shitpost.

[Anonymous No.]

Lol, when i was kid there were Gatchamen, Astroboy and some racing animu airing on one of local TV channels. I had no idea it was japanese and thought of it as american cartoons. I've imagined Japan somewhat same as China at that time at best.

I don't really care about other peoples misconceptions and only correct them if necessary...

[Anonymous No.]

There are alot of different breeds of weaboo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9444493
So where do I meet my arresting officer?

[Anonymous No.]

watching bigbang, snsd and any other korean musical entities on variety shows and such ruffles my feathers.

[Anonymous No.]

No, I don't care for anime nor what other retards do, you nerd.

[Anonymous No.]

When Americans say Japanese music is so much better than American music because of an opening song from a generic animu they just watched.

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>>9444493
Moe doesn't exist in English either you dunce.

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>>9444493
I'd rather people use "kawaii" than use "seinen". Mainly because even the most retarded weeaboo knows what "kawaii" means, whereas "seinen" seems to be used exclusively as "mature stories for mature viewers such as myself" or something equally inane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9444601
Cute is close enough.

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>>9445152
Fuck no it's not, what the hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445152

Yeah no, moe doesn't translate into just 'cute'.

[Anonymous No.]

I once picked up a book on the Imperial Japanese Navy and their operations against the Chinese in the Sino-Japanese War.

Took me about five pages to realize the author had the names switched to a western style.

There wasn't even a editor's note explaining what had been done...

Still read it anyways, GODDAMN CAN I NOT GET ENOUGH OF THAT INJ

[Anonymous No.]

I often don't mind people like that and why would anyone refer to that show with more than Haruhi especially in English. I find things like trying to be an expert by using words the person know his "audience" won't understand is retarded though, but I sometimes quote in Japanese because I honestly don't know how to translate thing good and that tend to make people angry.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>9444459
pantsu?

[Moe !TRONurrVj. No.]

>>9445254
The things I would do to that squid..

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445264
Why do you post it every time you see and Ika image/thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445271
He wants to do things to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445152

You're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utnb5Mru_zo

not really, but shit like this pisses me off

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445312
Fat women really are disturbing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445312

What...

Why would you do that to yourself...

[Anonymous No.]

I don't really get pissed off with people being weaboos. I've been at cons since they were strictly for people who sat on the internet all day and traded VHS tapes and I've watched the 'KAWAII' naruto headband types fade in and out like a tide.

It annoys me more if I see someone who should know better getting a word wrong, on 4chan there is no excuse - you should know your shit if you're going to post here, so if you get loanwords wrong - you're a joke. But as for the others - I don't really mind, most of those people are friendly at least. Even if they act retarded I'd rather that than the stuck up nerd types.

I think the ones who go around reading manga and eating pocky and talking about anime everywhere they go have more 'otaku' inclinations than some of the people you find on 4chan using the word wrong while they spend their whole time arguing on the internet about unrelated shit they don't have a clue about and hardly watching any anime or reading any manga. One is passionate and obsessive despite only scratching the surface, the other cares more about how people view him and fan etiquette than about his so called interests; it's a no-brainer.

[Anonymous No.]

when people gif things from the latest episode of some show and use it as their avatar and signature on forums.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445385
They are niwaka otaku.

We're way above them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445399

Yo, real talk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445399
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445385
gomenasaj

[Anonymous No.]

Stressing the wrong syllable. It's like they don't even listen to the audio track. e.g., Ha-RU-hi, Mi-KU-ru. How do they fuck that up?
Similarly, pronouncing consonants the wrong way. e.g., Ka-ge-sha-ma, Shu-ri, Sha-o-i. This only applies for the disgusting Spanish speakers, of course.

It really gets to me because pronouncing things right would take the same effort. You have to _try_ to fuck up with Japanese pronounciation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9444464

Just wait for the next 2hu game.

ETERNAL PARADISE FLOWER BUKKAKE

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445430

you mean suh-koo-ra and kuh-go-mee amirite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445152

Yeah, you're pretty much as bad as naruto fans if you think moe actually translates as cute. It has nothing to do with cute, fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445414

daijabbu

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445467
Kaiji is cute, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9444601
He has a point though, I have yet to see someone using the word "moe" for a character that isn't cute and feminine without obviously circlejerking like those guys saying that fukumoto characters or LoGH characters are moe. In the end, it will only trigger an urbandictionary war with typical nerds trying to define a word that doesn't have an actual definition. It shouldn't be used at all.

[KING OF /jp/ !2K23m85knQ No.]

I am so otaku that I shit animes and mangas everyday

[Anonymous No.]

>>9444459
This. Especially "bampu pantsu". It really gives me that creepy pedophile vibe you only find on Gelbooru.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445462
Exactly. I can deal with English-only peasants not being able to do simple sounds, but that shit is unbearable.
Shiki had people shouting "ME-gumiiiii!" for half an episode, and I'm more than sure that most fuckers would call her "Meh-GOO-mee" with pleasure.
Why the fuck does this happen?

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>>9445182
>>9445239
>>9445302
>>9445467
Trolled hard.

[Anonymous No.]

I hate it when my girfliend forgets to lock the door while she's changing. Just this morning I walked in on her stark naked, and screamed "P-P-P-P-PANTSU!!!!" just before my nose started pouring blood. Then I knocked that bitch the fuck out, she dot what she deserved for not locking the door.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445506
Stop watching dubs you lunatic.

[Anonymous No.]

The ironic thing about weeaboos (as opposed to wiggers) is that they don't actually try to be Japanese. If they tried to act Japanese maybe they'd actually be tolerable.

I guess me living in Japan and acting according to Japanese customs and with a modest and quiet personality makes me true weeaboo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445515
Look at this tryhard faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445537
Please respect my life choice. In my culture the aggression you have displayed to me just now was very 失礼 and you have placed in me in an uncomfortable position.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445515
>If they tried to act Japanese maybe they'd actually be tolerable.
Act reserved and passive-aggressive to everyone not of their kind? Yeah, that would be swell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445548
Got any tips for a fellow Anon trying to accomplish something similar?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445563
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445562
Well, better than acting like hyperactive retards at anime conventions.

I don't know why they act like that at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445562
>passive-aggressive to everyone not of their kind

You've never even talked to a Japanese person have you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445488

Because it's improperly used, moe is a feeling, and believe it or not. Bara fans use it as well. Just because americans use it like "cute" does not mean it means that. And it only comes off as being illiterate to use it that way.

If you NEED to simplify it, moe is a feeling of attraction to a character. Usually caused by something that character does, or has.

[Anonymous No.]

No, I don't give a shit. Why would I? Give me one reason to care about other people's lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445570
I chalk it up to mental and parental issues 13-17 year olds deal with. Most weebs are teenagers.

>>9445582
Dude, I'm just basing off of stereotypes for baka gaijin to comprehend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445610

y-you cared enough to post, tsundere-kun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445613
N-no, stop! I don't care ;_;
But really, what I meant with my post is that I just like to live my life doing things that make me happy. I don't care if I'm a weeabo or not, or if people act retarded or not. If they're having fun by doing that, let them do it. Although, just like that anon said, I still wonder why they act hyperactive and don't even make an effort to try to learn about Japan, except for liking anime and manga. Most of them can't even bother learning japanese anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445610
Empathy has evolved to be pretty strong and that means that if you make people happy you will feel happy too. This is what thousands of years of evolution has given you so don't try to deny it.
If you're not a sociopath that is...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445623

But didn't you know? Their grandma on their mom's side is 1/16 Chinese, so technically they're Asian too. And being Asian is just like being Japanese so they are now eligible to inherit the spirit of bushido from Masamune.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445646
>bushido

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445589
>Just because americans use it like "cute" does not mean it means that
You know there's slang, jargot and stuff, right? You also know that otaku doesn't mean the same thing it means at Japan, but why? Because otaku (as in pejorative for nerd) wasn't an actual word.

I don't use the word moe and I don't care about the people who use it but the sperglords who defend the definition of that word (like you) are FUCKING OBNOXIOUS.

You are one of those guys I was talking about who always repeat the same speech in every board, I bet you took that "what moe is NOT..." pic at face value even though it was written by some random guy who was trying to encourage the usage of a shitty word to feel more...I don't know...like if it were another meme.

"woah, he said moe 'correctly', he is one of my kind"

That word was also probably made by some greasy otaku like you or me so I don't know why everyone is obsessed with using it except to look cool or fitting in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445796

It's retarded in the same way that someone walks into the crowd, and starts calling everyone faggots. Then when he gets called out, says that HIS definition is actually a compliment. No, just because some fag chose to twist the meanings of words, does not mean we have to learn his fucked up definition. And he will be called out for it, because shit he's saying sounds absolutely retarded.

[KING OF /jp/ !2K23m85knQ No.]

>>9445688
at least he is entertaining somehow.
I just love the way he speaks

[Anonymous No.]

What about before "moe" existed or took off? If I showed any /a/ person who hadn't seen it, they'd say Sakura from CCS is "moe". I'd have just used the word "cute", personally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445917

Except things can't "be" moe. You can only find Sakura moe and it's generally something about her that makes you have that feeling. It's part of the misunderstanding that things can be classified as moe, and that there is a such thing as a "moe show" that makes /a/ such a rancid shithole. Considering their knowledge is barely about Toonami level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445936
sup weeb

[Anonymous No.]

Moe otaku are the worst. While practically all 2D otaku are pigs who do nothing but consume and follow trends, at least you can call what they pursue a hobby, and not just a manifestation of their hyperactive interest in the opposite sex combined with their complexes concerning real women.

There's literally nothing redeeming about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445947

Even weeaboo is a meaningless phrase, considering it is no longer used for what it actually means. You can really tell which posters are from /a/

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445936
But many of them are aware of the original concept of moe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445954
Fujoshi pls go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9444590

for real, those retards think a few anime songs automatically negate an entire nation's worth of music when they clearly wouldn't know shit else about Japanese music besides orange range, uverworld and tmrevolution

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445936
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%90%8C%E3%81%88%E3%82%A2%E3%83%8B%E3%83%A1

Sorry, I consider Wikipedia to be more authoritative than some autistic person on /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445966
Great, now he's going to pull out the misogyny card. I hope you're happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445966
Excuse me? The same argument applies just as much to fujoshi too.

Assuming you know what the word actually means.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish we could discuss Anime on /jp/ in a more mature matter without the bad content and kids/normals from /a/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445969

Oh shit, he pulled out wikipedia!
WE'RE FUCKED NOW


>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445981
Sounds boring. Can't we discuss it in an immature manner like with everything else we talk about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445936
http://waa.ai/ys

Ken Akamatsu considers his shit moe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445981
Colony Drop is that way >>>

[Anonymous No.]

>>9445984
I'm sorry but /a/ and /jp/ don't define these terms.

If this were 2ch and all of us here were the most autistic authorities on the subject around, then fine, but 4chan is not the place to be debating Japanese word usage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9446000

The terms originated before /a/, before /jp/ and we just use them. But some severely autistic normalfags from /a/ seem to enjoy misusing it, because they don't understand the material or concept of a word without a literal meaning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9446000
You should ask a true VIPPER like Tokiko, he knows all about this stuff

[Nameless Book-Reading Youkai !denX47.muQ!!XUU92Uht5OG No.]

moé is a paedophile's term.
you've heard of ``budding'' right?
that's mostly what moé literally means

[Anonymous No.]

>>9446017
I am a browser of it.

Anyway, it's retarded to be so fussy over these things. This same debate could be happening on 2ch. It's not an /a/ thing at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9446029

Moetron please leave

[Anonymous No.]

>>9446016
Because the word is entirely descriptive rather than prescriptive. It was, originally, based on things that already existed. The metaphor is vague so everyone had their own opinion. Look at things like >>9445991 and laugh at how wrong it is now. But everyone still has their own view of what "moe" is, even if there's some rough general consensus and the industry is trying to capitalize on it.

It's a word that, in my opinion, shouldn't be used because there are better words. "But moe is a feeling!" or, "It's something you experience!" is all well and good, but just tell me what you feel or what it is. Instead of saying, "I like Ditzy-chan because she's moe!" just say what part of her you like, e.g. "I like Ditzy-chan because she's cute!" or, "I like Ditzy-chan because she's clumsy!" I don't know what your personal idea of moe is, you might as well just say, "I like Ditzy-chan because she has qualities I like!" or, "I like Ditzy-chan because I like her!"

And frankly it's as dumb as using the word "kawaii". Just don't do it.

Further reading, 4-ch thread from 2005 about the Akamatsu thing:
http://4-ch.net/anime/kareha.pl/1122583157

[Anonymous No.]

>>9446029
UH OH
I THINK SOMEONE READS SHII'S WEBSITE

http://shii.org/moe

[Anonymous No.]

‘Moe’ is the lexical equivalent of greentext. People have been articulating themselves better for decades, yet teenagers wonder how we ever lived without it.

[Nameless Book-Reading Youkai !denX47.muQ!!XUU92Uht5OG No.]

>>9446067
what are you on about?

[Anonymous No.]

Moe is a feeling end of, it doesn't translate well from Japanese to English. Welcome to languages 101.

We don't have a way of describing 'moe' in english; all this 'the word has changed' nonsense is just something people say because they don't want to face up to the fact they are wrong about something they've been doing for years.

It's the difference between someone who speaks Japanese like a foreigner, and someone who speaks it like a Japanese. You have to learn about concepts if you want to take your language skills to the next level, not try and translate something that will never truly translate.

[Anonymous No.]

I heard the word 'moe' long before I experienced it. I could look at pictures and think 'That's moe' but when I first really experienced it, it turned the definition I had on it's head.

It just struck me in a way I hadn't imagined, moe is indescribable - if you have to ask 'Is this moe?' then you haven't felt it yet. When you understand and experience moe, you begin to realize all that 'doki doki kyun kyun' stuff isn't just Japanese onomatopoeia, it's a side dish to moe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9446771

it's like actually listening to densha talk

[Anonymous No.]

I had a friend in high school who pronounced inuyasha
"een you hosh uh"

[Anonymous No.]

No, I'm not even interested in Japanese culture. I've liked the anime I've seen which has been mostly classic but that's about it.

I'm only here because I don't know where else within 4chan I can flee to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9447431
What threads do you post in? I hope the answer is none.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9447456
It actually is none. I'm still trying to get a feel for the board so I don't post, although this one sort of addressed me so I figured i'd give it a shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9446692
>We don't have a way of describing 'moe' in english

Just for the record - we do. There's just one word needed, too. "Love". That's it.

Too general? Well, I'd rather have a general translation that actually carries the meaning than a specific one that everyone gets wrong. Besides, there's a precedent. "Love" is continually being used as an adjective in the exact same way "moe" does. The resulting phrase means the very exact same thing the phrase with "moe" substituted in would mean. "X is love". You've all seen it a thousand of times already (and if you didn't, google it substituting X for some popular anime character). I seriously can't comprehend how people perpetually fail to make the connection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9447554

>There's just one word needed, too. "Love". That's it.

Both are colloquialisms, that take the original meaning of a word and changing it so that it has no literal meaning, but expresses a "concept". Same thing with moe.

In this case you have to know what "X is Love" means, which is not really used at all. And then apply it to "moe" when you could just learn that moe is a feeling you get, not a thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9447570
>you have to know what "X is Love" means

Even if you've never seen the phrase before, the meaning can easily be inferred, with the only problem being getting past the seemingly incorrect grammar.

>you could just learn that moe is a feeling you get

If people could, people would. They can't. And we know they can't because they don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9447570
>X is Love
Huh. That...kind of works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9447554
Love and moe are two different things. And 'X is love' is simply a stupid grammatically incorrect sentence that has taken root amongst the lesser otaku. Moe is a single word to describe a feeling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9448014
Only no, they aren't. You're getting confused by all the different separate meanings that "love" has. But if you forget for a moment about how much more "love" can mean and concetrate on "moe", you'll find nothing about it that cannot be properly described as "love". Love is already a first-choice equivalent of several Japanese words with distinctly different meanings (there's 恋 for romance, 愛 for the virtue, and even (大)好き for fondness), is it really that much of a problem to accept 萌え as yet another one of them?

And "X is love" is NOT gramatically incorrect ("moe is love", for example, is quite obviously a gramatically correct sentence). It's just semantically confusing because it literally says "X is the same as love itself" - but that's just how idiomatic expressions work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9448633

He is right. This is not about what we can best translate 'Moe' as. This is the simple fact that these is absolutely no translation that will capture the word exactly. End of. Love is nothing like 'moe' and one day when you actually learn Japanese properly, maybe you will understand this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9447127

Densha is shit, don't compare me to that crap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9448919
>absolutely no translation that will capture the word exactly

Gee, that's like 99% of any language. Whatever will we do?

Not translate at all, is that what you're saying? Do you prefer for people to not be able to comprehend what the word means at all? Or worse yet, to make up their own definitions that have almost nothing to do with the original meaning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9448991

>Not translate at all, is that what you're saying?

Yes. Certainly in the case of Moe, which is a feeling - unlike 99% of language which are objects etc.

What an idiot. It shocks me people like this even find their way onto /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9449062
>What an idiot. It shocks me people like this even find their way onto /jp/.

Don't be too hard on yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9448991

Except that many Japanese words have no meaning at all attached to them, but carry a feeling instead. You might use どきどき in real conversation to imply you are exhausted from running, or your hearts beating faster out of excitement. Or you just jacked off. Or you might say よろしく which means like 8 different things depending on how it's used, but is mostly a catchall phrase that magnifies a greeting, action, or a request. And is a 'good feel' word.

Shit like this cannot be translated well, if at all. Moe can't be summarized, you generally have to get the concept to understand how it's used, and how to use it.

This sadly, is too far beyond 4channers, and anime fans in general so I see no point discussing it, it will never change.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9449098
Cannot be translated well != no meaning. And it's a bad example (good for me), ドキドキ is merely a sound of a heartbeat. Sure, you may be using it to describe thousand different things, but it will still, at its core, mean just that.

And besides, examples of other words are irrelevant here. Show me examples of how moe can be used to describe several different states that cannot be described as "love" and we'll talk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9449169

You can say "Freckles are love" or "Clumsy girls are love" but you are using an idiom to describe an idiom. In a way it gets an idea of when you mean to an average person. But it also adds a barrier of understanding by doing this. You have to generally say it like a sentence. You can't say "I think that's love!" but you can describe something that gives you that moe feeling. Just by saying you think that's moe. The two are not the same, you literally cannot 100% equate the two phrases.

Just accept it's a foreign language with a foreign concept.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9449169
>ドキドキ is merely a sound of a heartbeat

Wrong, absolutely wrong. Have you ever lived in Japan? ドキドキ has a certain stigma and intention attached to it, yes it is more widely used than in just anime related things but on the same token you won't be able to use this at a business meeting, nor will your doctor describe your heart like this unless he thinks you are an idiot who needs things simplified.

[Anonymous No.]

Where did all this Densha Otoko hate come from, anyway? That shit was hailed as the Second Coming when it was released. Check some old world4ch or 4-ch threads to see what I mean.

Fucking self-defeating weeaboos, the lot of you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9449440

I've never liked that shit, it's a piss poor representation of otaku and you can blame it on the niwaka walking around today pointing at real otaku going "キモい・・" Densha Otoko has fucked things up so grandly, it's like what CNN and 'Anonymous' did to 4chan only you see it firsthand in the street.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9449259
Well, that's all true, but my point was never to attempt a precise translation, but to try to explain the term that's otherwise left pretty much without a definition. I'm not trying to say "X萌えぇぇぇぇぇ！ should be translated as X is love", even though in many cases it indeed could. I'm trying to say "See this X is love shit that caught on some time ago? That's pretty much what Japan means when it describes something is moe." Because ultimately, it is the closest thing to the whole concept of moe that English language has ever created. In part precisely because it's a rare idiom with a narrow meaning and usage that's largely contained in the same small group that is interested in moe in the first place.

>>9449402
>has a certain stigma attached to it

So what? Long story short - it doesn't change the underlying meaning. Nigger means a black-skinned human. Retard means a person that's mentally underdeveloped. There's a stigma attached to the word and you won't hear it from your doctor, but you're sure going to hear it from me if you keep misinterpreting simple statements for no apparent reason (other than maybe a flaming attempt).

[Anonymous No.]

>>9449685

>it doesn't change the underlying meaning.

It IS the underlying meaning, just face it - you've been using the word wrongly for years. Stop trying to save face by dodging questions and refusing to see sense.

You do not know what 萌え means. Simple as that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9449685

Nobody should use the word 'Moe' in english in an attempt to replicate it's Japanese meaning because English has no translation for a word with such an intricate and specific nuance as 'Moe'.

Moe is not "Love". Moe is not 'basically' "Love" either. It's a completely different kettle of fish altogether, if you knew anything about Japanese you'd understand why, but you don't - so sit down, be quiet and learn something.