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If Touhous had to fight each other without using their powers what would the tier list look like?

>> No.9426535

Reisen

>> No.9426542

Marisa > rest > Raymoo

>> No.9426551

Sanae smothers everyone with her breasts.

>> No.9426558

>>9426527
Ran and Meiling on the highest tier. Yuuka and Yuugi not far behind. Everyone else is debatable.

>> No.9426560

Yuugi beats the f**k out of all tohoes

>> No.9426565

>>9426527
Yukari

>> No.9426597

Meiling and Yuugi would probably be at the top of the list.

>> No.9426604

Does Youmu's sword count as using her power?

>> No.9426616

What do you mean by powers? Because I'm pretty sure Yuuka could defeat a whole lot of people without having to manipulate flowers.

>> No.9426627

>>9426558
>>9426560
>>9426597
I agree with these men.

>>9426604
I'd say so. She moves at physics-defying skills. A normal sword couldn't possibly handle her draw speed.

>> No.9426632

Yuuka.

She's one of if not the strongest touhou and I'm pretty sure one of the side materials said that her power wasn't combat related and she just uses brute force + unrelated magic.

>> No.9426839

>>9426560
>>9426632
This, since Yuugi and Yuuka's strength is unrelated with their powers. They'd be at the top.

High tier would be other Touhous with great inherent strength/whose combat skills don't depend on any power, like Marisa and Suika.

>> No.9426846

Reisen.

>> No.9426852

>>9426535
>>9426846
Why Reisen? Is this a meme or something?

>> No.9426849

>>9426839
Marisa has the power to use magic.

She's screwed.

>> No.9426864

Mei Ling would still get her ass kicked. That's just sad.

>> No.9426871

>>9426852

Reisen is the best 2hu.

That's all.

>> No.9426874
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9426874

I still think Yuuka's strength is magic related because she doesn't look that buff. If she had no magic or powers, would she still be strong? Wouldn't she just be like a normal human? Or do Youkai bodies work differently?
I don't think she would still be the strongest.

Do you mean if they had no magical abilities whatsoever, OP?

>> No.9426879

yuugi is canonically the strongest 2hu

>> No.9426882
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>>9426852
Reisens got a mean right-hook.

Shes still pretty impressive in my opinion.

All that work counts for something!

>> No.9426883

Aren't oni physically the strongest ?

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9426884

Methinks Yuugi would win.

They don't call her "Yuugi the Strong" for nothing.

>> No.9426888

Cirno

>> No.9426893

>>9426874
I think her strengh is raw. Remember that youkai are very, very different from humans internally. Most touhous would be extremely weak, but I guess that oni and yuuka would be very high. Maybe Tengu would fair good too? I dunno.

>> No.9426894

China has the most hand-to-hand training.

Yuugi is debatable, oni strength is magical; she'd still have the muscles, but she'd also be wasted.

>> No.9426904

>>9426883

It's magic. Suika can kick earth into the sun even if she's the size of a molecule.

>> No.9426931

Does Aya get to use her speed and wings? That would place her pretty highly

>> No.9426932

>>9426904
But Suika is physically strong.

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>>9426931
Her speed and wings won't do much after Yuugi puncher her RIGHT IN THE FACE!

>> No.9426943

Shikieiki would kick everyone's ass

She a kung-fu Yama

>> No.9426954

>>9426874
I thought it had been implied that Yuuka's strength (both physical and magical) comes from the fact that she's a very very old youkai who's accumulated that level of strength. This might just be me repeating a post from someone else a while back.

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>>9426939
Good luck hitting her.
Of course, she probably wouldn't be able to scratch Yuugi either, so...stalemate?

>> No.9426965

>>9426959
aya has to come down to rest, doesn't she? yuugi can literally just sit around forever and just wait for aya to tire out.

or just chuck boulders at her

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>>9426527
REMEMBER?

>> No.9426970

>>9426965
Well, if she needs to rest, she won't rest nearby, duh.

>> No.9426992

>>9426894

>Their livelihood is kidnapping humans, and with their high levels of physical and magical strength, they are the strongest beings in Gensokyo.

Onis are naturally really strong. They're the equivalent in japanese culture to our big ogres/trolls.

>>9426904

Suika is weaker than Yuugi physically, but she's better at using magic/danmaku, she said so herself at SoPM. That's why she'd be lower.

>>9426931
Considering Aya's power is wind manipulation, we could guess that, such as the onis would still be able to rely on their strength, the crow tengus would still have their speed. So, I guess Aya and Hatate also at High tiers.

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9427001

Aya wins because she's the fastest.

>> No.9427014

>>9426970
if they can just run then wouldn't every fight be a stalemate?

>> No.9427017
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9427017

Top tier list:

Meiling: Strong physical body
Yuuka:Just a powerful youkai
Yuugi and Suika: Onis are strong by nature
Remilia and Flandre: Vampires have unnatural strength and speed

If weapons are allowed...

Sakuya: Excellent knives accuracy
Youmu: high level of swordmanship

If unzan is not considered as power, Ichirin

>> No.9427023

What about Flan and Remillia?

Are generic vampire powers like super strength/speed/regen nullified too or do they just lose magic and their specific powers (Destruction/Manipulation of Fate)?

>> No.9427031

>>9426992
>Onis are naturally really strong. They're the equivalent in japanese culture to our big ogres/trolls.

But they normally look like big ogres/trolls.

>> No.9427059

So what do we have by now?

Top tier: Yuugi, Suika, Yuuka

High tier: Aya, Flandre, Remilia

Mid tier: Meiling, Youmu

So, what the fuck about Marisa, Patchy and Alice? They're all witches, they use their knowledge about magical properties to create firepower/other effects. Does that count as a power or not?

>> No.9427072

Reimu
Yuugi and Suika
Hatate and Aya
Touhous with guns like Lunarians and Nitori
Youmu
Meiling

>> No.9427074

Top tier: Cirno
She's the strongest.

>> No.9427076

>>9427072
>Reimu

Let's be serious now...

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>>9427076
Raymoo would seduce everyone with her armpits.

>> No.9427890

>>9427059
Komachi should be at least mid tier, she carries a huge scythe and her job includes rowing a boat, she must have some strength.

>> No.9428179

Inversely, who would be the weakest Touhous?

My guess is Tewi and the kappa (buncha nerds)

>> No.9428194

>>9427890

you are right.

I would consider patchouli to be the weakest.
considering her asthma and the fact that she never gets up to even walk around that much.

>> No.9428215
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9428215

If the girls don't have their tricks and all then Mannosuke is inherently the stronger since he is a man.

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9428282

Why would Yuuka be top tier? Her strength is magical isn't it?

Top tier: Yuugi, Suika, Meiling, Aya
High tier: Ran, Momiji, Remilia, Flandre, Shou
Above Average: Reimu, Sakuya, Youmu, Komachi, Okuu, Orin, Chen

Yukari & Yuyuko debatable because they're ghosts, Most of TH13 cast is debatable because they're zombies, I only put Flandre/Remilia so high because they're vampires, Chen because she's a cat (speedy)

>> No.9428293

Does no power mean the immortals are unimmortal? Because even youkai and oni aren't immortal

>> No.9428295

If Touhous don't have any powers, does this mean Kyouko is stronger than Chen (being a cat's natural predator and all)?

>> No.9428297

>>9428295
KYOUKO IS NOT A DOG!

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9428308

If Touhous had to whore themselves without wearing their silly clothes what would the tier list look like?

>> No.9428313

>>9428308
Please don't bring your shitposting into this thread.

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>>9428297

my bad

What about Momiji versus Chen or Tewi then?

Yes, I know she's a wolf, but this is considering wolves are the more undomesticated tier of dogs

>> No.9428324

I heard Akyuu is a really good MMA fighter.

>> No.9428329

>>9428313
powerlevel/secondary thread? NOT shitposting? ok

>> No.9428339

>>9428329
Compared to your post, the thread is pure gold.

>> No.9428357

witch 2hu wud u fug?

>> No.9428377

>>9428357
Chen :3

>> No.9428404

>>9428308
Lolis in god tier, old hags in awful tier, rest in middle tier and depending you have a bestiality fetish or not, partly animals in high or low tier.

>> No.9428418

>>9428404

This is awful answer to an awful question, but it is the most correct one.

>> No.9428423

>>9428418
no one asked for your goddamn opinion terranerd

>> No.9428539

>>9428282
It's hard to find such a retarded post, seriously.

Concerning Yuuka, for fuck's sake, do your homework:

>This ability is more of an extra; she truly possesses extremely high youkai power and physical abilities. A youkai-like youkai.

As if that wasn't enough, don't try to put Meiling or Aya in league with Yuugi and Suika. Meiling is just another random youkai, that happens to be a great martial artist - this gives her a good advantage in this setting, but would NEVER put her in the league of a oni's strength, much less of the four devas. Aya could be arguable, but without her wind powers she's just a fast tengu - a race that was once nothing more than oni slaves.

Also, what the FUCK did you put Ran in there for? What do you expect her to do, bite people? And Sakuya? I guess she could throw knives at youkais -- who, in case you don't know, "have no problem with being split in five pieces", in Akyuu's words -- before getting mangled.

And don't even fucking get me started with Reimu. WHY THE HELL, SERIOUSLY. She does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING without her powers. I really want to rip your lungs off with my teeth.

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>>9427059

>> No.9428580

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>> No.9428615

Youmu would be top tier for training and wielding a sword. Assuming that oni skin doesn't have some bullshit property like being stronger than steal then a sword swipe would cause more damage than fists. Plus she seems nimble enough to dodge and weave.

>> No.9428639

>>9428615
Some Touhous have or are supposed to have distance weapons. It gives them advantage.

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>>9428539

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