/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

What's your favorite instant noodlez?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403599
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403599
Only in AmeriKKKa.

[Anonymous No.]

nong shim nigga

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403605
You're a disgrace to all otaku and neets!
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

Роллтон.

[Anonymous No.]

NissiN

Too expensive though.

[Anonymous No.]

m-m-m-m-maruchan

[Anonymous No.]

maruchan

[Anonymous No.]

None because I don't eat highly processed cancershit.

[Anonymous No.]

Maruchah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403848
It's not cancershit, it's just completely void of nutrition

[Anonymous No.]

maruchan, but it hasn't tasted "right" for years. and nissin stuff was always inferior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403848
It always surprises me how these supposed otaku are eating so healthy when in anime all the time they eat ramen.
But i guess you're probably a visitor from /b/ so you don't know shit about otaku culture...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403868
Grade-A post right here. I'm bookmarking it for future generations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403859
Have you ever checked the labels? It's full of additives that any sensible person would avoid eating. It's not real food, it's highly induastrilized chemicals labeled as food. Yep, cancershit.

>>9403868
So I can't eat healthy if I watch anime or play eroge? Sperglord, out with you.

[Chris the Gaijin ("n _n) !IO1EaswX/g No.]

Paldo Dosirac shrimp flavor. I will settle for MAMA shrimp creamy tom yum if I can't find any Dosirac

Luckily I have an Asian food market near the city I live that has isles full of many different foreign brands that I have yet to try.

Nothing tastes better than traditionally prepared noodles, though.

[Anonymous No.]

I like to make scotta Mr. Noodle; drain the water and add some salad dressing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403886
>It's not real food, it's highly industrialized chemicals labeled as food. Yep, cancershit.
Chemicals aren't going to cause cancer just because they were synthesized.

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>>9403886

What exactly are you talking about that's harmful? You realize this stuff has to be passed by the FDA before it can go on the shelf, right?

Why do idiots always talk about `chemicals' like they're automatically bad, too? You know water is a chemical, yeah?

[Anonymous No.]

The only harmful thing about instant noodles is the palm oil and high sodium content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403920
No, water is an industrial chemical.

[Anonymous No.]

dont wanna burst bubbles here but whatever in your daily diet that u think is more healthy than ramen, it probably isnt...not that i would recommend it because of that.

[Chris the Gaijin ("n _n) !IO1EaswX/g No.]

>>9403886

Regardless of "chemicals", everything is good in moderation.

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>>9403899
And how do you know that? Besides it's not just the additives that are unhealthy. Highly processed products like noodle usually involve extreme heating processes , which produces carsinogenic compounds (and let's not get into the oil that the noodle has been boiled in), which are attributed to cancer.

Why eat that shit at all? It's not nutritious, it's just empty calories. Better just play safe and eat fresh food made from scratch.

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>>9403935
> extreme heating processes
Like boiling

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403935
>And how do you know that?
There's no reason for, say, artifically produced vanillin to be any more carcinogenic than natural vanilla. People have done food safety studies on synthesized chemicals and come up with various determinations, but synthesized chemicals as a class are not inherently carcinogenic.

I mostly cook, but sometimes I'll eat packaged things because I'm lazy.

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>>9403920
>You realize this stuff has to be passed by the FDA before it can go on the shelf
Everything that passes the FDA is uber healthy amirite? The keyword here is moderation. You're not going to get cancer from eating a bowl of noodle a month, but I highly doubt the word moderation can be applied to people like OP who probably eat noodles on a daily or weekly basis. Why do you think there's a cancer and diabetes epidemia in 1st world countries anyway?

>>9403932
Pretty much anything is more nutritious than noodles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403935
Because sometimes empty calories are better than no calories

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403969
empty calories for empty souls

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>>9403965
>Everything that passes the FDA is uber healthy amirite?
Actually yes
The synthesised materials, at least. They are required to be hilariously pure. Much more pure than the 'natural' stuff you eat, anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

not hazardous != healthy

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403943
>boiling
>extreme heating
You are fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403989
Do you ever get the feeling that you're missing something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403979
Uh, okay. Link me some studies that show long-time studies on these chemicals and their effect on the human body. Until then, I remain sceptical.

>The synthesised materials, at least. They are required to be hilariously pure. Much more pure than the 'natural' stuff you eat, anyway.
Is this something I should be worrying about? The food that I eat don't require much testing at all because it's actually safe to eat.

[Chris the Gaijin ("n _n) !IO1EaswX/g No.]

>>9403965

As long as you don't pig out on instant noodles every damn day of your life, you should be perfectly fine. Though, some people can only live on a ramen noodle budget, which does show in their health lead to health problems later on down the line of life. The problem is these weeaboos (or "otakus") try to eat instant noodles everyday for whatever dumb fuck reason, and they wind up jeopardizing their own health for their taste for something that should really only be eaten when there's no time/money for a much fuller, nutritious meal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404000
considering it was a point about the quality of synthesised ingredients, no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403979
>>9403920
>FDA
Go shove your industrial shit down some "goyim"'s throat, jew.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404010
Ramen was not invented by Jews.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404008
A good quality synthesised ingredient is still shit quality when you can eat real food which doesn't even cost much and is easy to cook, fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404017
Food does not cease to be real when synthetic chemicals are added to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404014
Instant Noodles were.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404017
Synthesised shit is often cheaper, hence why they synthesise it instead of extract it.

[Anonymous No.]

ITT sensible anon trying to smack some sense into deluded anons with shitty diets because they don't wanna eat the veggies their mom cooked for them VS deluded NEETs defending their shitty diet

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404019
That's not true either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9403997
No not really.
You can't get an extreme heating process with a simple (home) oven/microwave, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404014
But FDA was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404033
Nice try, but as so long as it doesn't superheat (IE there are heterogenous surfaces for the water molecules to form vapour bubbles off of, IE- anything that isn't pure water) doesn't go much above 100C as it reaches 100C it starts to boil, cooling it.
Ergo, the food doesn't reach above 120C or so.

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>>9404018
Maybe if you consider dogshit that has been sprayed crap to make the smell and the look more appealing to be food. Actually, even dogturd is more nutritious than noodles.

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>>9404033
How hot does something have to be before it constitutes an "extreme heating process"? Are ramen noodles fried at this temperature or above?

[Anonymous No.]

Pot noodle

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404052
Basically he means 'however hot the noodles are cooked in industrial cookers'.
Which is 100c.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404044
No, most people don't consider dog shit food.

Dog shit also is calorically void.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like shit like headaches and diarrhea when I eat instant noodles, that's a sign my body is telling me something which is why I never eat them again nowadays

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404017
What real food homo? Shit is pretty much pasta just curlier. Do you think flour is a dangerous chemical?

I'm sorry that not everyone is a privileged middle class neet born in the first world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404059
That's the massive salt content

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404065
I think it's more than that

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404073
It's the massive salt content

[Anonymous No.]

fucklol, guys, it's simply cheapo starch with chicken flavor derived from actual chickens, and some random dried green onions and such

if you want colon cancer and hard arteries, you eat those "slim jim" sticks

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>>9404062
>Do you think flour is a dangerous chemical?
Yeah...? Refined shit like the industrial flour used in noodles and pasta is one of the reasons why I would avoid them altogether. I honestly don't understand why people would poison their body with that shit and defend them right some of you are doing now.
>I'm sorry that not everyone is a privileged middle class neet born in the first world.
You don't have to be rich to eat healthy. Basic stuff like vegetables, meat, fish and small amount of fruits while avoiding almost anything processed will get you really far. They don't cost much, you don't have to buy some shitty organic products or tenderloins every day. I don't understand /jp/, why eat unhealthy when you could NEET out longer with a healthy and basic diet.

>>9404059
Those are pretty familiar symptoms.

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>>9404108
> you could NEET out longer
Why would you want to do this

And noodles aren't poisonous

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404055
>Which is 100c.
No retard.
They basically put the highest temperature possible to boil the noodles as fast as possible.

It is not 100C

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404108
>why people would poison their body with that shit
Flour, even refined flour, is generally not considered a poisonous substance.

>will get you really far
Where exactly are we expected to be going?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404108
>meet, fish, fresh vegetables, fruit
>don't cost much
Look at this privileged homo
I have about a ~10 dollar weekly food budget, how do you suggest that I afford any of that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404113
>And noodles aren't poisonous
In the long run they are due to the high sodium content, the enhancements and the low-quality oil used to boil or fry them in high heat. Once a month and your basic diet is okay? Probably not. The average noodle eater's diet isn't probably in check anyway, so that's not helping it. Stop defending that shit and face reality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404113
>>9404119
>not poisonous
They are not healthy either.

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>>9404117
are you trying to tell me that the construction of a massive pressure cooker, and it's continuous pressurised operation, is how they cook noodles on a massive scale?
And they do this instead of vat of boiling water because it's quicker?
So they make a system which is twice as expensive to get the noodles out 1.5 times as fast
Makes perfect sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404124
Everybody agrees on that. We done yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404124
I'd like you to show me where anyone claimed that they were healthy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404126
I didn't know they had instant noodles in uzbekistan...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404126
Grounded beef, cabbage, carrots, tomatoes.. they don't cost much. 100 pounds of your shitty ramen probably costs much much more.

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>>9404131
No, I'm telling you that they use a temperature higher than 100C.

[Anonymous No.]

fuck the haters noodles 24/7

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404151
So water can go to over 100C and stay as a liquid? I'd like to hear this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404149

Are you fucking insane? Produce is ridiculously expensive.

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>>9404158

he thinks they have a pressure cooker

i mean he's wrong but that's what he thinks

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404119
Alcohol isn't poisonous either.
Doesn't mean you can't get alcohol poisoned

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404149
>ground beef
whoops, already gone over the price of ramen
I don't think you understand how cheap it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404164
Herp derp water isn't poisonous either, and that sure never killed anyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404158
I not talking about the water, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404149
Ground beef costs around ~3$/pound here.
Vegetables don't provide nearly enough calories to get you through a day in any economic way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404168
This doesn't work after I just explained how large scale pressure cookers are stupid expensive

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404149
>>9404167
Just find a random online shop and compare the price/weight already.

[Chris the Gaijin ("n _n) !IO1EaswX/g No.]

>>9404149

It's much cheaper to purchase instant noodles than to prepare a home cooked meal with produce, meats, and all. Haven't you ever heard of a "ramen noodle" budget?

Anyway, why is this shit still going on? No one said that ramen is healthy for you, we all practically can agree on that.

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>>9404158
yes it is salty

[Anonymous No.]

I don't really eat instant noodles much anymore. When I did, it was only that maruchan stuff. My mother made it for me a lot when I was a child, and I got chubby, so I stopped when I was a teenager.

I have some up in my pantry for emergency, because this stuff lasts a long time and is full of carbs in case there's a zombie apocalypse or something. I doubt I'll eat much of them, though.

I did eat a bowl back in June. Just felt like eating it, made me nostalgic. Have a good day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404179
Ramen: 5-30 cents a meal

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404170
I have yet to see a person dying of water poisoning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404189
Hold your wii for a wii.

That and drowning.

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>>9404167
Are you looking at the package price or dollar per pound? Please stop making bullshit excuses, I've lived on welfare myself and did just fine with 8$ a week. You make food that lasts one whole week, it isn't hard. I'm done.

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>>9404189
My brother was hospitalized for water poisoning this year. Others have died from it. It is not common, though.

[Anonymous No.]

Someone here once said that a /ck/ protip is to buy livestock food (e.g. grains) in bulk. Is this a good idea? Is it cost effective? Can humans comfortably eat such foods, or do they have bugs in them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404192
It'd have to be very salty indeed to go above 120C

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404199
Best neet food is oatmeal. Rivals ramen in cost, and is much more nutritious.
And can be prepared with water, bowl and microwave in a few minutes

[Anonymous No.]

Dihydrogen monoxide:

* is called "hydroxyl acid", the substance is the major component of acid rain.
* contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
* may cause severe burns.
* is fatal if inhaled.
* contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
* accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
* may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
* has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:

* as an industrial solvent and coolant.
* in nuclear power plants.
* in the production of Styrofoam.
* as a fire retardant.
* in many forms of cruel animal research.
* in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
* as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.

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>>9404119
>Where exactly are we expected to be going?
I think he's pretending to be one of those raw foodism types.

Instant asian noodles are cheap yet still aren't worth what you pay for 'em. But unless you're trying to LIVE off the things or you have an existing blood pressure issue like with the sodium thing that guy was talking about, they're acceptable. A ripoff, but acceptable. For comparison, take a look at typical greasy-spoon fries. Same empty calorie starch as ramen, but with the addition of a wee bit o trans fatty acid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404196
I don't have any access to a deep freezer and I have limited fridge space (I have about 5 roommates in this house)

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>>9404209
I'm gonna second oatmeal. Especially "Quick Oats". Don't confuse it with instant oatmeal. I could eat oatmeal all day.

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>>9404196
And I'll add to this: LEGUMES such as beans and lentils are dirt cheap. They're packed with anti-oxidants and vitamins and essential amino acids. Good protein source. Noodle people pls go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404194
>drowning.
>Water poisoning

[Anonymous No.]

Now that we're done establishing that bulk grains, legumes, and oil are the cheapest way of getting X calories for Y dollars, we can safely go back to discussing whether or not instant noodles, consumed regularly, cause cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404204
curse you Dihydrogen monoxide, you have taken many a life...

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>>9404234
Why would one need bulk oil?

[Anonymous No.]

Where can I buy regular oatmeal in the UK? Health food shops?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404240
Lube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404234

Why the fuck would they? Do you have any evidence that they do, or are you just guessing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404234
see above about slim jims

those feature nitrosamines which will give you butt-related cancer

[Anonymous No.]

I know it's not /fit/ but if we are discussing welfare budgets, I might as well...

What's the best source of protein?

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>>9404234
>whether or not instant noodles, consumed regularly, cause cancer.
Cancer cells feed on sodium.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404240
Maybe you just want pure calories, in which case oil beats out everything by a significant amount.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404258
Semen.

[Anonymous No.]

the cheese flavor kind

[Anonymous No.]

What's the most boring/cheap/autistic way to stay healthy?

Someone once recommended chicken soup, wholemeal bread and fruit/veg smoothies all day every day. Seems pretty balanced, but I know it'll be missing something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404263
I don't see any mention of semen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404267
maybe he's American you jerk. They don't sell it in shops over there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404267
You would have to communicate with someone to acquire it...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404263
Spinach and cheap seafood (careful of mercury) will give you all the nutrients you need. If you look up the nutrition content of them, you can see that you only need to eat some a day, and thus save money Then just eat bulk rice for the extra calories.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404283
spinach = kidney stones

[Anonymous No.]

Oh great, all food gives you cancer or piss stones.

Proof that there is a God, and that he's a dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404033
Don't compare microwave to boiling water when you have no fucking clue on how microwave works.

Microwave can create clusters of overheating, because they produce heat by making the O-H bonds vibrate. Such a heating method is very prone to eterogenous heat distribution, whereas a saucepan filled with water isn't( or at least, nowhere near it, sure there's a temperature gradient between the bottom of the pan and the water/air interface, but whatever, man)

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404289
I read that Broccoli, also very nutritious, doesn't have as many oxalates that make stones in certain people.

By the way, spices are a very cost-effective and fun way of spicing up your tuna and rice or whatever you would be eating.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm eating a pepperoni pizza. Not only is it a healthy source of carbs and protein, but it's also delicious as fuck. You jelly, fitaboos? Enjoy your spinach and oat gruel.

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>>9404131
Hey nigger, listen, I don't know how they fucking cook noodles, but I know that using boiling water is fucking retarded.

Water is the fluid with the highest massic thermic capacity ? What's this mean ? it means it's fucking horrendously expensive to boil water.
Furthermore, a giant fucking cooking machine with water boiling in it is a fucking riddle to make into a continuous process.

They most likely use steam (water above 100°C, if they work within atmospheric pressure, that is), not only steam requires far less power to be transported (low pressure drop), but you can also have the heating and the cooking at separate places.

What does it means ? in case one of the heater fails, the production can keep on going, providing you're not only using one heat exchanger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404374
>I'm eating a pepperoni pizza. Not only is it a healthy source of carbs and protein
>healthy
this post gave me cancer

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404383
what if the peperoni is artisanal peperoni from a farm, he made the pizza himself with bio whole flour and homegrown tomatoes ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404393
but he didn't, fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404396
I bet he would if he could. It's the thought that counts.
Stop being so douchy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9404414
>It's the thought that counts.
No it's not.