http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EK_rasw5Wo SUKI SA SHIBIRERU HODO SUKI SA kuyashii hodo KUYASHII HODO SUKI SAAAAA WASURERARENAIIIIII

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Anonymous Wed Jul 11 01:22:03 2012 No.9341421 [Reply] [Original]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EK_rasw5Wo
SUKI SA
SHIBIRERU HODO
SUKI SA kuyashii hodo
KUYASHII HODO
SUKI SAAAAA
WASURERARENAIIIIII

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 01:24:48 2012 No.9341425 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFjZjXHrLU0 Get on my level, OP.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 01:30:03 2012 No.9341450 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zm88MCYyCg AI YO KIENAIDE MO U UMMM ZUTTTTOOO SAGAASHITETA AIIIIII O TOMENAIDE MOOOO U UMMM KORE GA SAIGO NO FALLLL IN LOVE

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 01:37:50 2012 No.9341490 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrfVCKefvhM As if you are being chased, you are in a hurry This dry heart is screaming This stubbornly burning star is still far away YEAH!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 01:40:49 2012 No.9341507 >>9341490 This sounds like an intro for a low-budget 80s movie.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 01:43:34 2012 No.9341521 kyoko has been my waifu for a good 8 years stay classy OP

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 01:47:07 2012 No.9341538
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>>9341425
Saddest crap i ever seen. I'm downloading Marmalade boy, Sailor Moon R, and Kimagure Orange Road.

I just finished this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B2qVSl0XoM

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 01:48:06 2012 No.9341544

>>9341521
I was the only anime that i still have a lot of feelings for, that feeling that you wished you could go back and re-watch it fresh. all the characters got me wishing to know there lives more, i wish we could see godai and kyokos married life. Also godai was a main character that i could really see myself as, there are just no ,main characters quite like him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 01:52:21 2012 No.9341561 >>9341538 TBH, I didn't enjoy it all that much myself. I was much younger, and things like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW8JKCouIA4 were certainly more up my valley, unlike now, where I would find it too repetitive.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 01:52:21 2012 No.9341562 >>9341538 What is that anime about, any good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 01:53:58 2012 No.9341573 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCTsMRe_GnQ

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 01:55:56 2012 No.9341582

What happened to anime?
why dont they have that special feeling anymore?
like how you can really get behind the characters?
Is it just me or was older anime better at capturing personalty and human soul better? Is it because most of the story writers back then came from being actual book authors and such?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 01:56:11 2012 No.9341589 >>9341582 Probably just nostalgia.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 01:57:26 2012 No.9341591 >>9341582 Since when is Rumiko Takahashi an actual book author?

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 01:58:56 2012 No.9341601

>>9341582
or was it just that the Japanese liked character oriented stuff back then, instead of how they like story oriented stuff now? I mean even mecha anime was very character oriented.
>>9341589
but i watched a lot of these amines just in the last 5 years. Its not nostalgia, there is a clear difference.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:01:11 2012 No.9341622 >>9341591 maybe they were just coming from a much more educated background?

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:01:41 2012 No.9341629
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>>9341561
>>9341582

But the 70's was full the same plots over and over again, in mecha: heroes, robots, professors, catchphrases...Mazinger, Grendizer, Raideen, etc. Getter Robo was the only one i really liked.

My favorite decade was the 80's, but i liked the 90's too.

>>9341562
It was really boring.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:03:42 2012 No.9341655 >>9341629 90's was pretty much the low point for me. Transitional phase and the worst of the staples that the modern shows have improved on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:03:42 2012 No.9341656 >>9341629 Well wasn't the 80s japans golden age? wasn't that when every though japan was the economic center of the world? maybe that why the 80s was just the best for japan in general?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:05:12 2012 No.9341672 >>9341582 It became more Western Pandering. Notice how it's "cleaner" and tame. Ecchi back then would never fly today.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:06:42 2012 No.9341683 >>9341655 Wasn't the 90s kinda like a huge move to get young teens into anime? I mean everything just went down one notch in story telling,art,characters. I mean it just went backwards.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:08:58 2012 No.9341709 >>9341656 >wasn't that when every though japan was the economic center of the world? I thought America was.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:09:42 2012 No.9341720 >>9341683 Also everything was action oriented, while character orientation took a back seat completely. it was more about what happened to progress the story rather than emotions and getting deeper into the main characters life and mind.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:10:27 2012 No.9341724 >>9341656 I'm not sure, but it was better than the 90's. >>9341683 More shonen crap and action manga.

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:10:42 2012 No.9341729

>>9341582
Nostalgia. Shows like K-ON! and Lucky Star still let me feel that connection.

Perhaps anime didn't change so much as you did.

>>9341683
I feel the 90's were self reflective of Japan at the time. The standout shows were very depressing and brooding, possibly the result of Japan's economic crash. It would explain why a show like NGE became such a hit since it said what everyone felt.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:10:58 2012 No.9341731 >>9341709 America hate started to pick up during that time. Remember 'Nam?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:11:27 2012 No.9341740 >>9341709 In the 80s, America saw japan as this huge economic power house that couldn't be stopped. thats why all business majors in the 80s had to learn Japanese. now its mandarin Chinese.

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:12:12 2012 No.9341749

SDF Macross was the first series I genuinely enjoyed, so I'd also pitch in as 80's being the best decade. But I also have a huge boner for 90's QUALITY art style, and there was a number of so-called "must see" series, which were, admittedly, pretty good. Now, since the 2000s, is when in my eyes things have gone downhill, but I'm willing to put it on me growing too old for this shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:13:57 2012 No.9341763 I have a shirt with the girl from maison ikkoku but I've never seen it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:14:42 2012 No.9341769 >>9341740 >why all business majors in the 80s had to learn Japanese I think it's the opposite.

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:15:13 2012 No.9341779

>>9341749
no, its just that the Japanese kids today only care about "what happens next" and waifus. they dont like character oriented stuff like the fans did in the 80s. if you watch shit from the 80s, you can actually watch it with a straight face and take it seriously,even cry. most anime today is just action/tropes with a little bit of shock value.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:15:57 2012 No.9341787 >>9341769 no, its true.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:16:42 2012 No.9341794 >>9341779 I think you're nostalgia goggles are on too tight now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:17:27 2012 No.9341802 >>9341779 I don't think you've actually watched much modern anime at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:17:43 2012 No.9341808 >>9341794 *your

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:17:43 2012 No.9341810 >>9341794 I dont have nostalgia goggles, im watching 80s anime as we speak and can see the difference. I just read into it a bit more than most.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:18:59 2012 No.9341817 >>9341779 Please don't forget that the 80's had an oversaturation of these overly violent action OVAs. It's really not much different from today's anime. >>9341810 You're cherrypicking. Do you realize how much anime is created in a single decade?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:20:43 2012 No.9341834 >>9341787 I think you are making this shit up. No business major would learn any language but English.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:21:58 2012 No.9341842 >>9341817 Don't forget the sexualized women. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkF13YQkPx0

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:22:13 2012 No.9341844

>>9341802
yes i do, its not anywhere close to how character oriented 80s anime was, im not saying its bad just i wish they would go back and add what anime today is missing from their characters. They felt more real and personally the characters were deeper.
>>9341817
Ive watched everything from the 80s and 70s that is subbed, im watching ashita no joe as it gets subbed and its a masterpiece.
even the action ovas were at least interesting and over the top in a good way.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:23:13 2012 No.9341862 File: 19 KB, 576x432, Hades_Project_Zeorymer-08.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9341842 I Forgot the pic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:23:58 2012 No.9341859 >>9341844 Please don't tell me you thought garbage like MD Geist and Roots Search were good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:24:28 2012 No.9341867 >>9341842 sexualized women is better then the shit we get now. At least the women were older then 16 and had unique character personalities. modern westernized japan is just fucking boring, i liked it more it more when they could do anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:26:28 2012 No.9341886 >>9341867 I never said it was bad, i remember getting a boner from Mamiya's nipples in HNK.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:26:28 2012 No.9341888 >>9341867 That's funny when the girls in anime back then look and acted more like Western women.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:26:43 2012 No.9341889 >>9341859 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrGU7BaGfNc

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:27:44 2012 No.9341899 >>9341888 not really at all. they just had personalty.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:27:58 2012 No.9341901 >>9341888 >You will never get women in anime acting like Kei and Yuri from the original TV show ever again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:28:58 2012 No.9341909 I'm having a hard time relating now that all anime is based around fucking high school.

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:29:28 2012 No.9341913

I usually try to avoid the whole "anime then vs anime now" argument, as I've actually seen myself that different decades had their own issues. But in the last three years I've picked up and dropped every single new series except Haganai, because I've been following LNs and mango for it. However, all of these new adaptations end up not very good and only cover a tiny part of the manga, so I end up thinking why even bother.

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:29:43 2012 No.9341914

>>9341842
We still got plenty of bishoujo. It would be a little silly to think that they aren't being sexualized in modern anime.

>>9341844
It's reflective of the change in times. You'll still find plenty of good anime nowadays, but it's good in a different way, which is essential in keeping the genre moving and fresh.

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:31:28 2012 No.9341935

>>9341909
this. one of the many reason why i moved to the 80s and im thankful at least for that. I still dont see why the Japanese these days like fucking high school so much. I mean seriously move the fuck on to college like love hina did or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:33:00 2012 No.9341947 >>9341909 This so goddamn much. Hell, even when they were teenagers, back in the 80s, they weren't going to fucking school. Nowadays, even if they're Space Pirates, there's still school.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:35:01 2012 No.9341959 >>9341914 Well besides manga and some anime like monster and actually the nhk, i dont see whats "better". Also shouldn't otaku fucking hate high school? why the fuck do they want it in their anime and vns and manga so much?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:35:45 2012 No.9341956 >>9341947 >>9341935 You're not their target audience. Most of the fans of high school anime enjoy it because they see it as the highlight of their lives. Past that, it's just dull mindless salaryman life until they get old.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:37:15 2012 No.9341964 File: 111 KB, 658x800, 4cc7cc57390111f3f5c701f150ade552.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9341947 deal w/ it

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:37:31 2012 No.9341968

>>9341935
Why were they so obsessed with space during the 80's?

Modern Japan views high school as the highlight of one's life. Modern anime has much more emphasis on otaku, and it offers them the nostalgia of a life they miss, or always wanted.

Is /a/ broken or something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:38:00 2012 No.9341979 >>9341956 I dont see why it has to be like that when the 80s didn't do it. unless that just proves that 80s anime in general weren't for 16 year olds. >>9341968 because space is actually interesting? and a good place to create new stories and ideas?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:38:00 2012 No.9341977 >>9341956 That's a pretty stupid thing to do. Teenagers can't buy shit. Besides, wouldn't corporate slaves want some form of escapism? Dumbasses from studios would be swimming in money if they aimed it at them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:38:30 2012 No.9341975 File: 495 KB, 700x893, 281e55d631141bd226e5ec7dcf08c684.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9341947 Imagine Cobra with a high school uniform. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd0IMF9Bulc

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:38:30 2012 No.9341974

Different target audience I suppose, have to make it about things viewers can relate to with a good portion of things viewers wish they could do, hence school kids with superpowers. Older generations still watch animu due to habit without realizing the producers don't account for them when making it. It's kind of the opposite of what's happening with American children cartoons, I watched a bit of the recent material and was surprised by how much some of the jokes and references felt like they were intended for men in their 40s.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:41:06 2012 No.9341992 >>9341977 >>9341979 You two got your demographics all screwed up. They are meant to appeal to early 20's-mid 30's NEETS who, believe it or not, support the industry with money from their parents.

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:42:50 2012 No.9342001

>>9341974
>>9341956
I really dont get how the whole industry can target just one audience for 20 years. even kids at the age of 17-19 dont want to watch shit about highschool. i mean why arent college kids and younger adults the target audience? do college kids just dont matter even though they should have jobs and money?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:43:05 2012 No.9342003 Great show by Oshii nobody heard about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxnwTg2lKQc

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:43:50 2012 No.9342007 High school is easy to relate to while still being perfect for escapism.

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:44:50 2012 No.9342019

>>9341959
It's not about being "better". It's about enjoying what you enjoy. Modern anime has a little bit of everything for everyone. You just need to be willing enough to try it.

>>9341979
>because space is actually interesting? and a good place to create new stories and ideas?
Right, we need more space operas and more giant robots. God forbid if people try something different.

Hell, we got Lupin III back, and a Matsumoto Leiji anime coming out soon. Perhaps we'll see a revival of older anime styles.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:45:36 2012 No.9342023 >>9342003 Never heard of it, it is good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:45:50 2012 No.9342029 >>9342001 You're thinking like an outsider Westerner. Most of the people who watch anime like it because of >>9342007

>>	「ロリあき」 Wed Jul 11 02:46:50 2012 No.9342034 >>9342003 Was pretty bizarre, but I enjoyed it. Only watched it on principle, though.

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:48:20 2012 No.9342043

>>9342001
I guess the industry simply looks at what sells the most and doesn't care what their target audience ends up as a result. College kids might have money, but high schoolers are all spoiled brats these days, plus they might be more willing to actually spend on anime. There's a good chance a college dude with money might also have "a life", while someone who's into anime doesn't have much disposable income due to lifestyle.

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:48:37 2012 No.9342044

>>9342007
Well high school fucking sucked.
fuck high school and fuck high school anime.
I want college anime about a hopeless loser ronin back at least or a business life setting. some i can fucking relate too. well, at least anime is better a bit better, space bros is pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:50:37 2012 No.9342055 >>9342044 It's not about recollecting how your HS life went, it's about daydreaming on how it could have went, especially if you had all your current life experience back then. I caught myself on that kind of thinking quite a few times.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:51:37 2012 No.9342060 >>9342044 God, you sound like a whiny, self entitled brat, as expected from a nostalgia tard. Look, there's plenty of what you're looking for in modern anime. NHK, Genshiken, Moyashimon and Tatami Galaxy. All in a span of the recent decade.

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:53:22 2012 No.9342066

>>9342043
What the hell are you talking about? The target audience gets exactly what they want because they're the ones willing to pay up for it. The anime industry is supported by otaku, not high schoolers, and definitely not casual college students.

This doesn't mean that only "otaku stuff" gets produced (unless you count the medium itself). There's plenty of variation amongst shows and animated features. You can, however, thank them for keeping the industry afloat so you even get anime.

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:54:37 2012 No.9342072

>>9342029
I still dont get it, 80s anime had escapism but it didnt need high school and 15 year olds with "15 year old problems" I fucking hate how they try to make a romance serious with fucking 15-17 year olds, i cant take it seriously at all.
>>9342060
Shut the fuck up i can whine because the shit i like inst targeting me at all and its fucking retarded because its all the same shit. Also i have no nostalgia, i dint wacth 80s anime 30 years ago, i marathoned them in the last 5-6 years.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:55:08 2012 No.9342075 >>9342044 >college anime about a ronin What the fuck is this nerd talking about? Does he even know what the fuck he's saying?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:55:52 2012 No.9342080 >>9342066 but why do the otaku like shit, what happened to the otaku from the 80s who had taste? what do they say about otaku of today? do they hate them and bash them for ruining anime?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:57:37 2012 No.9342088 >>9342072 I just gave you a laundry list of shows that fit your "tastes." If you want more, go to aniDB or whatever and look for tags like "college-life" "adult" "hipster manchild pandering" for all I care.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 02:58:53 2012 No.9342092 >>9342023 absolutely. it may have comedic coating, but it's deeper than that. i've never seen anything like it.

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 03:00:07 2012 No.9342102

>>9342075
you know what i mean. An anime like that in general would have more realistic character personality then any high school shit with "high school problems"
>>9342088
I already watched all of those of course. I dont think you understand how much of a sage i am. I have watched literally everything worth watching from every era.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 03:00:22 2012 No.9342104 >>9342092 Thanks, i'll download it.

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 03:00:52 2012 No.9342106

>>9342066
No, I agree with you. Myself and others err in assuming japs have similar tastes as westerners, so the logic is "I can't believe japanese 20-year-olds could like this, the industry must be making it for schoolkids", which is very likely wrong.
And yes, there is good anime in 2000s and 201x. One reason it might seem like there's very little of it is because we have to watch it as it comes along, where with 70's stuff one could get a whole batch of the best material at once and not even notice all the flops that have been produced as well.

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 03:03:22 2012 No.9342123

>>9342072
Great, so you're not a nostalgiafag, you just have a mad problem with the Golden Age fallacy. You can't appreciate differences and variation in the medium and instead you feel the need to assume a pretentious elitist view with the only actual qualifying variable here being time. You're right. You're not a nostalgiafag, you're worse.

>>>/a/

>>9342080
They don't. They've simply changed along with all of Japan. Do you realize how much has happened in over three decades? Did you really think that everyone's interests would remain static? It's not a problem with the industry, or the fans. It's a problem with people like you who can't seem to adapt to something that, really, doesn't even need to be adapted to. What exactly are you looking for in your anime? You can find it if you ACTUALLY TRY TO LOOK instead of writing off all "post-arbitrary decade" anime as garbage.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 03:06:24 2012 No.9342139 >>9342080 Don't be such a nerd with your "taste" crap, do you even lived in the 80's?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 03:06:24 2012 No.9342140 Genshiken

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 03:06:39 2012 No.9342141 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIXqS0JNNr4 Just makes you want to dance.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 03:08:39 2012 No.9342147 >>9342141 It's funny because Chibi Maruko-chan is still airing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 03:08:39 2012 No.9342149 The problem is you wannabe critics don't actually like anime. I don't know what the fuck you're doing watching it, but it sure as hell is not enjoying it. /a/ has spoiled you guys and turned you into assholes >>>/a/

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 03:10:25 2012 No.9342156

>>9342123
you dont understand, you cant find new anime like how i want it, the feeling is not there. the emotions,the characters and how they were directed is just not good, its all shallow.
>>9342140
the manga turned to shit, its nothing but gay jokes and i raged when Madarame was fucked with when he finally was gonna get that blond girl with the big boobs, instead that trap bitch ruined everything. Madarame should of been the mc, not some bunch of bitches with no personality other than " LOL XD GAY JOKE" .

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 03:13:43 2012 No.9342160 File: 189 KB, 458x254, trying to take it easy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9342147 Like Fucking Sazae-san, Crayon Shin Chan, Detective Conan, Doraemon. And now... POKEMON!

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 03:16:13 2012 No.9342165

>>9342140
im on chapter 66 on Genshiken 2, does Madarame catch a fucking break at all? or is it still nothing but gay jokes? he was fucking finally getting somewhere with the blond chick and bam, fucking gay joke. http://www.mangareader.net/genshiken/66/24 I raged quit and haven't read it since.

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 03:16:42 2012 No.9342166

DEALING WITH CHANGE - A PLAY IN ONE SCENE

DRAMATIS PERSONAE:
MR. GOOD-OLD-DAYS
MR. THINGS-NEVER-CHANGE

SCENE 1

G: Things were better in my day.

T: No they weren't.

G: Yes there were.

T: No they weren't.

G: Yes they were.

T: No they weren't.

[Repeat until the end of time.]

FIN

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 03:17:27 2012 No.9342168

>>9342156
>just not good, its all shallow
It's not the anime, it's you. You're like people who let their bias ruin their appreciation of modern music, then turn around and glorify the 70's.

They defend their opinion by stating the relativism of their subjective experience, but they fail to realize that their irrational bias has already ruined it for them and effectively makes their opinion meaningless.

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