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What are the most obnoxious Japanese words and phrases used by English-speaking Japanophiles?

>> No.9185581

eroge

>> No.9185582

かわいい

>> No.9185583

>>9185581
Nah, I barely see people saying eroge, man. Worst is kawaii, honestly.

>> No.9185593

>>9185583
Most overused, not worst. Worst is Nya~!XP or shit like that.

>> No.9185591

"Sugoi" because people think it means "cool".

>> No.9185598

During the time when I was still in the university my classmates were overusing "kawaii" and "sugoi". But it was always done ironically. Felt pretty good.

>> No.9185600

I've heard people use 'mina' (as in, 'hello mina!') and I don't quite get why they choose to use it.

>> No.9185602

>>9185600
They think it's interchangeable for "Hey everyone!"

>> No.9185604

>>9185591

kakui! monotagari oni-chan

>> No.9185607

If you have ever interacted with a fat, bespectacled woman who streams anime and plays shitty games on her DS all day, you'd be as upset as me.

>> No.9185605

Every lyric in this song:
http://youtu.be/kn7jpINpqbQ

>> No.9185606

>>9185598
Did you major in being a fag?

>> No.9185609

"Bishie".

>> No.9185611

When did otaku make its way into the English language?

If people use the word "sugoi" enough will they add it to the Oxford English Dictionary?

>> No.9185614

>>9185609
THIS! This is the absolute worst one!

>> No.9185619

>>9185606
I dropped out. Thanks for asking.

>> No.9185620

>>9185611
As japanimation became more popular, it was kind of inevitable. I'm guessing "anime" and "manga" are in the regular dictionaries now, and "otaku" is probably in those "modern words" dictionaries they release far too often.

>> No.9185630

>>9185611
I think it was after that guy made that study and wrote that "The Lost Generation of Japan" book or whatever it was called.

>> No.9185638

>>9185619
You didn't answer my question sperglord.

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>>9185638
I... was trying to learn japanese. T-thanks for a-asking.

>> No.9185648

All of them are obnoxious if used non-ironically

>> No.9185654

Not a word, but ^_^, ^.~ and so on.

I'm actually surprised (and grateful) proper kaomoji haven't caught on amongst teenagers from DeviantART.

>> No.9185659

>>9185647
Oh ok that makes sense. I was wondering what class people would talk japanese in. You should try pimsleur it's pretty neato.

>> No.9185662

>>9185648
What about proper terms, though?

Like hell am I going to say ``porn game'' instead of eroge.

>> No.9185674

>>9185662
Depends on how ``eroge'' is pronounced in your language. In english it always sounds pathetic.

>> No.9185678

>>9185659
I'd recommend an AJATT style, myself.

>> No.9185681

>>9185662
Why not? Chinese porn games.

>> No.9185683

I really fucking hate the word "kawaii".

I mean, it's OK if it's coming from a Japanese person, but I've literally never heard it not sound ridiculous coming from a foreigner.

It's, like, just say "cute", you fucking faggot.

>> No.9185692

Hentai and otaku. They're being misapplied every time they're used and it makes me cringe.

However, we don't really have an English equivalent, so I suppose they're just filling lexical gaps.

>> No.9185739

>>9185692
I actually typed "hentai" then realized I couldn't really explain why. Glad I'm not the only person who feels this way.

Obviously it's a word, but it's always used too narrowly or too broadly.

>> No.9185759

>>9185692
I'm not getting the otaku part, but I'll definitely give you hentai. I would like an explanation of otaku's misuse. Are you referencing how in the west it's generally only applied to anime nerds?

>> No.9185807

>>9185759
There is the fact that it only tends to apply to anime in the west, whereas in Japan it means one with obsessive interests about any subject. However, I mean the pride at which people will apply the term to themselves.

In Japan, being 'Otaku' is not some 1337 code word for 'cool' or 'knowledgeable'. 'Otaku' is quite strongly pejorative, meaning that someone pursues their interests at the expense of other commitments. It's not at all a selling point, and furthermore, you cannot use it to refer to yourself. The 'o' is a prefix, and you may never use prefixed for yourself or your own things. It's like 'applying san to your own name' stupid in Japan.

>> No.9185842

>>9185807
I should clarify that the bit about prefixing refers to the original etymology of the word, お宅, and while オタク is likely to be in katakana these days, it still sounds odd to apply to yourself because of the word association.

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>>9185683
I only use it because it rustles jimmies and gets sand in vaginas.

>> No.9186019

>>9186011
Oh, and only on the internet, because I am not a faggot.

>> No.9186031

"Anime fans that learn four words in Japanese and DESU DESU DESU their way around the world."

- Jeff Gerstmann

>> No.9186039

>>9186019
shut the fuck up

>> No.9186046

>>9186031
It's funny because Jeff Gerstmann is just as annoying as those people.

>> No.9186048

I heard some faggot call himself a truNEET over the phone at the convenience store. It was 3 AM and I was going out for my weekly grocery shopping

>> No.9186068 [DELETED] 

12 Common Japanese Misconceptions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2fxUvbHzoo

>> No.9186080

>>9185807
>There is the fact that it only tends to apply to anime in the west, whereas in Japan it means one with obsessive interests about any subject.

I think this is a moot point though. To you and me, anime means Japanese cartoons. Otaku largely means anime/manga (or related media) geek.

I'll give you people misusing it, though. I suppose it's followed the same pattern "nerd" has in English.
Waiting warmly for "Revenge of the Otaku".

>> No.9186102

desu

>> No.9186119

>>9186080
Since that guy killed all those little kids some time in 1970s or 80s otaku has been a deeper insult than nerd.(That's why they get scum of the earth type insults)

Also anime isn't even the most prevalent type of otaku its actually car fanatics.

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>>9186119
>Since that guy killed all those little kids some time in 1970s or 80s otaku has been a deeper insult than nerd.

You jelly?

>> No.9186165

>>9186048
that was me

>> No.9186210

(5 year Japanese student)
I cannot narrow down the list to one word, I'll gonna just tack off words.
>Kawaii
>Desu
>Hai
>Sugoi
>Konnichiwa
>Kanji
>Anime
>Manga

There. Now I know some of you are gonna explode in my face about the last two, let me explain.
In actual Japanese usage, anime refers to ALL cartoons, and all manga refers to ALL comics; regardless of nationality and style.

The rest I hate because either they are poorly used, abused, or pronounced so horribly it hurts my ears. It's okay to use them when actually speaking Japanese, but don't just drop 'em into your daily ramblings when speaking English or whatever language you speak.

>> No.9186288

>>9186210
Loanwords don't always retain their exact definitions when they jump languages. Why is it so irritating to you?

>> No.9186289

It's not even the fucking japanophiles. It's just english speakers in general.

MAIN-GUH
ANNIE-MAY
TO-KEE-OH
KEE-YO-TO
TOY-YOTA
KERRY-OKEE
SA-KEE
KUH-WHY-EE

>> No.9186303

>>9186288
Call me a purist, but after learning what the loanwords mean in their original language, those words just aren't the same in my eyes anymore.

>> No.9186302

>>9186289
Do you flip a shit when English words incorporated into Japanese end in ル instead of 'l'?

>> No.9186306

>>9186289
Someone do a vocaroo of this!

>> No.9186309

A girl I know says sugoi/kyuuto or kawaii/sou yo ne/occasional sentence in Jap/some other shit a lot, but she's a hypocrite and hates weeaboos, so I guess that makes it somewhat alright.

>> No.9186319

>>9186302
No. Because I understand that the Japanese language isn't built at all like English. Pronunciation isn't nearly as flexible and so they have to manage with approximations.

English on the other hand, is very flexible and you can pronounce the same word in multiple ways (e.g. coupon).
Also, the Japanese 'r' isn't really an 'r', but a mix between 'l' and 'r' which somehow incorporates the 'd' sound. From what I know, plenty of Asian languages are like this.

>> No.9186328

I don't get flustered, and I don't get mad at trivial bullshit. All you have to do is cancel the annoyance at earliest convenient time and you will not hear it again from that source ever again
.

>> No.9186356

>>9185611
Before AnimEigo released Otaku No Video, I'd never heard the word before. After, every anime noob said it.

>> No.9186366

>>9186289
And people say the Japanese suck at English pronunciation. Let's face it, people suck at foreign languages.

>> No.9186389
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9186389

All of these wouldn't be as annoying and obnoxious if they didn't add cringing accents and inflections like they're speaking English.

>> No.9186421

>>9186210
what a fucken weaboo

take it easy

>> No.9186456

>>9186389
>wouldn't be as annoying and obnoxious if they didn't add cringing accents and inflections like they're speaking English.

They are annoying and obnoxious in any way.

>> No.9186471

>>9185605
I tried to listen to that.

I stopped at 10 seconds in.

captcha: somewhat ubsessf (yeah, it was a pretty stupid song I know.)

>> No.9186487

It's been 3 hours and not a single person mentioned "Baka"?

>> No.9186536

Anna-may means pervy Japanese cartoons.
Sahmb-rare-oh means silly Mexican hat.

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>>9186421
weeaboo

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>>9186749

>> No.9186786

>>9186749
Yes, you are one.

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