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Atelier Meruru
>The Bad : Sexualized outfits on very young female protagonists

5.0

>> No.9177142

So what?

>> No.9177143

I think he's gay.

>> No.9177145

You mean there's people out there who don't like that kind of thing?

Holy fucking shit, you've opened my eyes. I never knew that before.

Let's send him hate mail or something.

>> No.9177152

Can't spell "ignorance" without.... oh wait.

>> No.9177157

>>9177136
I know you're from /v/ so you don't know, but even around here, Gust-fags are confined to their ghetto. Try /vg/.

>> No.9177165

Cool.

>> No.9177169
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>> No.9177283

Mass effect 3
>The Bad: Inappropriate children's story told by an old man, including the part where Shepard's shuttle pilot blows a load up Shepard's ass.

5.0

>> No.9177298

That's funny, "Sexualized outfits on very young female protagonists" would motivate me like nothing else to spend money on a game.

>> No.9177304

I haven't played this game yet, but the characters and their outfits barely look sexualized, and that's coming from someone who loathes fan service and pervert pandering

>> No.9177330

>>9177136
I agree that's bad. The very young female protagonists should be naked.

>> No.9177350

Breaking news: otaku pandering game gets bad scores in the West.

>> No.9177353

>>9177304
the general public seems to refer to any sort of fashion that differs from typical as "sexualized".

>> No.9177359

>>9177353
the girls show a lot of skin and cleavage.

>not sexualized

>> No.9177371

Guys, they have no other choice than to put that in the bad category. Sexualizing teens is much worse than killing teens by western standards, so be it.

>> No.9177375

>>9177136
Too lewd

>> No.9177379

>>9177359
I'd say that's by far less slutty than the stuff the average female and average female videogame protagonist wears.
I'd have a hard time getting boners from these pure and proper girls

>> No.9177400

>>9177379
i'm sorry but the only thing that tickles my fancy are proper young ladies in victorian dresses with frills.

Everything else is just too lewd.

>> No.9177394

Insinuating IGN reviewers actually play the games they're reviewing.

>> No.9177395

>>9177359
You are more agile and move faster with less clothes going by pure logic.

>> No.9177406

>>9177304
>and that's coming from someone who loathes fan service and pervert pandering
Get out.
>>>/a/
>>>/v/

>> No.9177407

If you trust big game reviewers you're actually even dumberer than them.

>> No.9177423
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Only thing here that has more of a sexy appeal is her cleveage, but that doesn't make the whole outfit very sexualized.

>> No.9177424

>>9177407
>dumberer
You're a fucking retart.

>> No.9177426

>>9177407
who should i trust? /jp/?

>> No.9177425

>>9177406
What are you?Some lewd pervert?
YOU should get out!

Seriously though, it's just something I personally don't like because most of the time pervert pandering is the only appeal of these games.
If I want to masturbate I just watch porn

>> No.9177427

>>9177423
Legs too exposed
Face too exposed
Chest too exposed

>> No.9177433

>>9177423
>exposed bloomers

2lewd

>> No.9177435

This "Todd" sounds like he drives a hybrid.

>> No.9177444

>>9177426
Yourself

>> No.9177451

>>9177136
>Sexualized outfits on very young female protagonists

I am going to order 20 copies.

>> No.9177462
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LEWD

>> No.9177469
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9177469

when did this series get so lewd anyway? I never played the older entries, but just looking at the heroines...

>> No.9177472

>>9177469
How is it lewd? Are you a nun?

>> No.9177473

Western videogame reviewers consider you a pedo if you like Kasumi from DOA. That's what we're dealing with these days.

>> No.9177474

>>9177472

>>9177427

>> No.9177477

>>9177425
>If I want to masturbate I just watch porn
Somehow, playing Atelier or CnS makes me feel much more pathetic than when I play H-games.

In fact, I don't feel pathetic at all when I play CM3D while sucking on my own cock.

>> No.9177478

>>9177477
Is that a good thing?
Is being pathetic a turn on for you?

>> No.9177485

>>9177478
I guess it's rather a bad thing.
You shouldn't normally feel pathetic while playing a good game, right?

>> No.9177487

Gust a shit and this shit is truly solely entirely completely fully a game made for pedophiles in mind.

Ordering it now

>> No.9177503 [DELETED] 

Hes either gay or journalists do this on purpose as a new tactic to rack in the views.

>> No.9177507

>>9177503
>new tactic
It's common sense, always write what your readers and sponsors want to read and you'll surely get lots of money

>> No.9177509

JRPGs have become self parodies, it's true, but WRPGs that people jerk off over these days make me sick. "You have the freedom to do whatever and go wherever you want!" Yeah, the freedom to explore a bunch of boring caves, empty forests, and do shitty quests.

>> No.9177516

I guess NISA didn't give IGN enough advertising money for a good review.

>> No.9177593

It's easy to dismiss males with strong feminist views as fags but I've seen even fedora wearing gamers genuinely hold those views and it's just typical that a journalist would have them.

Paying lip service to the party line gains easy approval and some lonely betas sell out to feminist hoping to get laid.

>> No.9177596

Oh good, weaboo shit get's it's proper review.

>> No.9177602

>>9177596
Hell yeah fuck them webos /b/ro

>> No.9177611

>>9177602
GUST games always were 100% otaku pandering.

>> No.9177626

I dont understand why gust went from a simple fun rpg with good music AT2 to a moe fuck fest with ear piercing denpa and moecore whatever the hell its called AT3

I play an rpg for immersion and shit, not for fan service

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>> No.9177647

>>9177626
>moe
In before the gust defence force points out that you shouldn't "use this word unironically" and that you should go back to /a/.

>> No.9177655

>>9177626
And what kind of moe was present in AT3 that wasn't in the other games, anon?

>> No.9177652

>>9177330
Excellent post.

>> No.9177654

>>9177641
I remember that image, it was made by some trying to be ironic but everyone took it seriously just like everything else around here.

>> No.9177658

/v/ pls go

>> No.9177659

>>9177626
I wonder if you can really call AT games RPGs.

They look and play more like galges. Dating sims.

>> No.9177667

>>9177655
Don't bother, it's some butthurt fag, you can see the obvious sameperson posts that he keeps making.

>> No.9177674

>>9177136
Is that a user review or an "official" Gamespot review?

Cause if it's official then the whole thing just proves the whole bussiness to be awful.
For the target demographic "The Bad" is great.

It's like arguing top rated kids' shows are bad for appealing to kids.

>> No.9177679

>>9177667
Oh yes. Here we have our typical "gustfriend":
If you are somehow displeased with his favorite game, then you are a butthurt fag and probably also a shitposter.

Welcome to the amazing world of GUST.

>> No.9177686

>>9177679
It's pretty justified since a certain someone is always hanging around these threads.

>> No.9177695

>>9177679
What next, are you going to complain about hats and little girls in ZUN games? Or how about girls being sexualized in VN's?
But seriously though, I can't take your seriously when all your posts are like >>9177626

>> No.9177699

>>9177659
They were made as and primarily marketed as galge.

>> No.9177700

I used to like JRPGs but then I took some IQ to the brain

>> No.9177703

>>9177700
haha skyrim reference
us WRPGers

>> No.9177706
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>>9177700

>> No.9177711

>>9177626
AT1 and AT2 were both fundamentally centered around "moe". It was all about the girls and the character relations after all.

>> No.9177712

>>9177695
How can you even be sure that it's the same person?
Why are you people always on the defensive?

Every time someone criticizes a gust game there is always the same "don't bother, he's just a shitposter, I know it's the same game by the fact that he uses sage" crap.

>> No.9177716

>>9177700
upboat if you saw this post and thought of skyrim guards

>> No.9177722

>>9177716
I thought I was the only one.

>> No.9177719

>>9177700
le xD +1

>> No.9177720

>>9177703
>>9177700
Both the terms "JRPG" and "WRPG" were coined without a definition and were only used in an argument to further some bias. That's the origin of those terms.

>> No.9177721

>>9177716
+1

>> No.9177724

i'm in that weird part of 4chan again...

>> No.9177736

>>9177724
>i'm in that autistic part of 4chan again...
Not even /v/ acts this bad.

>> No.9177737

>>9177712
I can't be sure if that's the same person or post but the arguments seem to be the same.
For example, the person who posted >>9177641 >>9177626 might be different but they are both idiotic.

>> No.9177748

>>9177724

Nah, just jaypee.

>> No.9177756
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9177756

>>9177720
Japanese anime chara use it, so it's allright to use it.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq8xSb6JoqE

Do I even need to mention the transformation scenes

>> No.9177751

>>9177748
We're weird. That's the cute part of us.

>> No.9177755

>>9177736
welcome to /jp/ buddy

>> No.9177760

>>9177737
It's not arguments. It's just opinions. Please learn to deal with those.

I can also say something stupid like you are the same gustfriend who can't take any critic or opinion and calls everyone a troll, but I won't, because it's silly.

>> No.9177765

>>9177749
cuteness overload...X3

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>>9177765
I think so too.

>> No.9177767

>>9177760
my opinion is that you are a gay and your mom is a whore

DEAL W/ IT

>> No.9177769

japan = JRPG
the entire west = WRPG

takes the entire western cultures to compete with japan, why?

>> No.9177773 [DELETED] 

>>9177641

all I see is that the colors improved. If they had the same capabilities we have today I bet they would go directly into the "moe" thing that picture describes. And even so, nobody in the west played those games in the past so why are they complaining?

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>>9177767
ownd 5 lyfe by a gust/b/ro

>> No.9177775

>>9177769
japan:1
gaijin:0

what now westaboos?

>> No.9177783 [DELETED] 

>>9177769
Naw dude, it's because Japan is segrated. We don't want their Js in our Ws.

>> No.9177785

>For the target demographic "The Bad" is great.

What are they going to do, hire a subhuman to review all the JRPG's and rape sims.

>> No.9177787 [DELETED] 

>>9177775
>>9177777
so close xD

>> No.9177788

>>9177785
No, how about not even take them seriously?

>> No.9177789

Dammit, I think my failure got archived.

>> No.9177828

>>9177785
They should simply recognize what niche the game is trying to cater to and judge it on those grounds.

It's like how you should judge Nukige primarily on its erotic merit on not on what kind of story it has.

>> No.9177840

>>9177828
You are comparing what is branded as a JRPG with a western release, to a porn game. That doesn't feel normal dude.

>> No.9177893

>>9177756
They used to use the term Light-RPGs.
Besides, they still don't tend to use the term the same way and tend to use it exclusively to refer to Light-RPGs or when discussing foreign games in correlation to their own.

No matter the case, it doesn't change how W/J-RPG are two of the most ill-defined terms of game related vocabulary.

>> No.9177918

>>9177840
Normal or not, it just felt like an example that would make the point rather obvious.

But I suppose you could say it's like judging a slow strategy game poorly because it lacked high speed action.

>> No.9177938

>>9177641
has anyone played "new" SF games? I mean, really. I recall SFI and SFII having generic anime faces for portraits, no one complained. Also you can make a hot monk girl from a cleric, with exposed legs and all.

SF EXA wasnt too much of a weeaboo either. Everyone bites on tony taka artwork or what?

>> No.9177943

>>9177769
the only country in the west that matters is USA anyway, so yeah. Have to do everything yourself.

>> No.9177948

>>9177943
this is what american rednecks actually think

>> No.9177980

>>9177769
The west isn't one culturally united region anyway, so referring to "The West" as one region is a bit nonsensical to begin with.

The reason for why as you ask though.
The earliest use of the terms happens to be from some minor group of American game reviewers who weren't fond of Japanese games. So one of them essentially wrote a review where he claimed that Japanese games, JRPGs, were this and that, and that all other games WRPGs, are so much better because they aren't like that.

Both of the terms are actually surprisingly young and you don't really have to go much further back than 10 years to not see the term at all.
There were always more than enough terms to properly describe the games and their content. But ever since the birth of these terms they have latched on and survived due to elitists of fans of both sides claiming that "their games" are superior and "the others'" inferior.

>> No.9177986

I used to refer to JRPGs as "console RPGs" and WRPGs as "PC RPGs".

>> No.9177993

>>9177980
That kinda explains why wizardry/eyeofthebeholder kind of games smoothly went over to japan, but everyone is very reluctant calling them names.

>> No.9178002

Atelier MEURRURUR

WWWW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6ICqZdmskg

>> No.9178011

>>9178002
My god that looks unbelievably stupid.

What kind of trash plays games like these I will never know.

>> No.9178018

>>9178002
>crafting is even better than in some mmos
I'm going to assume its some kind of parody or a joke and move on.

>> No.9178019
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That sensation when you are french and have to buy your Merurus online because of rolled Rs.

>> No.9178025

I like how there is actually sex in western video games, yet he calls this Sexualized.

>> No.9178033

>>9178025
You understand the difference between a game with implied sex and a game where every female character is dressed like a slut, right?

No offense to any Gustwaifufags.

>> No.9178038

>>9178025
He probably thought its a kid's game, so kids in it should dress modest.
Also there was a great caption for the screen of Totori already standing inside Rorona's house, something along "no, you aren't going to leave your house dressed like that". That means either he doesnt play games he is reviewing, or just working on public, giving out marks and opinions that are expected to be on this site.

>> No.9178041

>>9178033
No, im sure actually sex is worse then frilly princess clothes that are not even Sexualized.

>> No.9178042

>>9178002
Watching that made me feel like my intelligence dropped, which is quite amazing since I'm on /jp/ all day every day.

>> No.9178043

>>9178041
pedos actually believe this

>> No.9178047

>>9178025
Because the girls are under 18!!!!

But in all seriousness, the way the girls dress in this game is pretty tame compared to where I live, at least during the summer. Lots of booty short and tank top wearing 12-17 year olds. Most will just stay in their 2 piece swimsuits all day if they go swimming.

>> No.9178051

>>9178042
I feel better about myself already

>>9178043
which rises another question about why this game isnt banned yet.

>> No.9178065

>>9178051
I'm afraid you didn't understand my point.

>> No.9178090

>In the year of our Lord and Savior Two-Thousand Twelve.
>Video Game Reviews
I shooby dooby doo-wop. Those clowns don't know shit about shit.

>> No.9178102

>>9177469
they do it gradually, like soul calibur and megaman.

>> No.9178111

>>9177641
I love how all something has to do to be "moe" to you fags now is to have character development and "pretty" art instead of man grunts everywhere and shit blowing up because WIZZARRRDDDDs.

Seriously, do you fags even know what moe is?

>> No.9178118

>>9178111
I like designs in shining wind, so many various characters, even despite tony taka syndrome.

>> No.9178154

>>9178111
There's a difference between cuteness and otaku pandering. When people say "moeshit", it often means "overdone cuteness", in a not so good way.

>> No.9178159

>>9177986
Good. You are a good person, or at least you were.

>> No.9178189

>>9178154
Anyone using that term doesn't care enough to try and think of a distinction.

>> No.9178192

>>9177330
>2012
>Preferring nufity to sensuel clothing on your lolis or any other sexualized objects
Your post screams homosexuality.

>> No.9178270 [DELETED] 

lel

>> No.9178319

>>9177136
>2012
>Caring about what faggots on review sites think
ISHYGDDT

>> No.9178481

>>9178319
>>>/v/

>> No.9178570

I am a devoted Muslim who clads his six wives in chaste burqas and I approve of his verdict.

>> No.9178594

If you want to play at pretending to be retarded, please do it in /v/. We really don't need greentext, 2012 and related posting habits here.

>> No.9178601

>>9178594
Did you just wake up or something? Quit filling every thread with your tryhard board police bullshit.

>> No.9178620

>>9177169
IGN in one picture

>> No.9178626

>>9178594
4chan has a report feature.

>> No.9178637 [DELETED] 

>>9178626
Too bad it doesn't work.

>> No.9178638

>>9178626
But I'm not going to bother to fill out captcha ten times and wait 30 seconds between each report just for a bunch of /v/ posters.

>> No.9178639

This reminds me of an episode in Adventure Time when princes bubble gum turned into a loli and the Ice King said "eww, well, I'm out" and then finn got to date the loli.

>> No.9178643

>>9178637
Do you even /jp/? I've destroyed hundreds of threads with the button.

>> No.9178654 [DELETED] 

>>9178643
I have reported every single fucking thread on this shitty ass board.

It is hopeless.

If you can't beat the shitposters, join them.

>> No.9178657

>>9177304
I agree. I've seen some of the concept art and all I can say is that it looks adorable. Frilly dresses and pastel colors really make my heart warm.

I wonder what they thought of neptunia.

>> No.9178667

>>9178654
Bug mods in #4chan. It's actually less effort overall, and has more positive results.

>> No.9178672

>>9178654
Go back to being wtH-kun?

>> No.9178693 [DELETED] 

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>> No.9178731

Couldn't care less about this kusoge.

>> No.9178880
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I honestly believe that anyone offended by content in video games that have an ESRB rating of T or lower is a massive pussy.

There's just no other way to say it. If it was truly sexualized, then it would be rated something else. That's why this goofy thing exists.

>> No.9178910

Welcome to the world of professional video game journalism. I agree that the entire review is stupid and that the whole sexualization bit is completely irrelevant to how the game plays.

I am more or less upset about the fact that some nerd on /jp/ goes to Gamespot. They have done some pretty stupid shit since Jeff and everyone else left in 2007.

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>>9178880

This. This reviewers sounds like he would flip his shit if he played through Neptunia and AT.

>> No.9178977

>>9178910
It's relevant because the game plays like shit so it uses its sexualized art to attract people.

>> No.9179012

>>9178977
But it isn't sexualized, and the gameplay is miles deeper than Diablo 3.

I played both, so I should know.

>> No.9179026

>>9179012

I am always jealous if people can compare things that are quite different even though they come on a similar broad category.

>> No.9179027

>>9179012
>But it isn't sexualized
>and the gameplay is miles deeper than Diablo 3.
Sure thing, gay bar.

>> No.9179039

>The Bad : Sexualized outfits on very young female protagonists

Why is this a bad thing? It's the only reason I've bought these games.

>> No.9179045

>>9178880
>If it was truly sexualized, then it would be rated something else.
I'll have to disagree. I still believe that people who do these ratings do not completely understand what's going on and just stick to technical definitions. I mean, it's not consistent - Americans still go apeshit over uncovered boobs. I'd say that a big media storm would change things.

>> No.9179047

>>9179027

Go back to playing your dumbed down kiddie sequels nerd. Atelier games are fun as HELL and I haven't played D3 yet but I know for a fact that I am going to have more fun playing Ayesha and Meruru than it.

>> No.9179055

>>9179047
Forgot your tripcode.

>> No.9179052

>>9179026
Well both games are RPGs that are focused on gameplay involving itemization. I feel that's more than enough for a comparison.

Meruru is the superior video game in this regard when it's all said and done though. Pretty crazy when you think about it. Most people who haven't played both would flip out if you told them this.

>> No.9179060

>>9179027
Diablo 3 being shit is one thing you can't argue with though.

>> No.9179061

>>9179027
Diablo 3 takes no effort and skill to play just overgear (and kite as wiz) and you're pretty much done. Not sure about the sexualized thing but the graphics are pretty horrible and not moe at all.

55k dps, 450 all ress, 3k+ armour inferno wizard here.

I hate myself for buying this game.

>> No.9179070

>>9179061
Farming gold definitely takes effort since I can't be assed to do it.

Forever stuck on act 2.

>> No.9179069

>>9179052

I know, I just cant even compare them. I need to compare D3 with another action RPG, Meruru with another JRPG.

>> No.9179084

>>9179061
>Diablo 3 takes no effort and skill to play just overgear
Just like the other Diablos.

But Diablo 3's Inferno is pretty hard though.

>> No.9179089

>>9179069
It's easy if you forget categories and think about facts.

>> No.9179104

>>9179061
>takes no effort and skill
maybe as a ranged. As a melee you gotta dodge crazy lasers, explosions, balls of fire, etc. Mostly lasers.

>> No.9179112

>>9179089
What facts?
The butthurt that Diablo 3 isn't equal to the previous games?

The only thing I think it's bad about D3 is the skills.

>> No.9179126

>>9179052
These "gameplay is good but I can't handle the moe so I'm going to give this game a 5" reviews are a riot.

American-localized Meruru should replace all the characters with hulking meatwalls or busty amazons, the plot with "the demon lord has arisen. Kill everything that stands in your path," and replace the graphics with brown and blood.

10/10, game of the year.

>> No.9179136

Dragon's crown is better than Meruru and Diablo 3.

>> No.9179137

>>9179126
GOTY 2012!!

>> No.9179146

And I should care about gamespots opinions because...?

>> No.9179148

>>9179146
Because the OP is an idiot that can't think for himself.

>> No.9179149

>>9179146
They get paid to spout their opinion.

>> No.9179152

>>9179146

Thread should have died with this simple statement so many posts ago.

>> No.9179153

>>9179126
Oh look, you are that (literal) weeaboo faggot that bias about western games.

>> No.9179157

>>9179153
Get out EA dev

>> No.9179158

>>9179153
>>9179157
>>>/a/

>> No.9179165

>>9179158
You seem confused.

>> No.9179161

>>9179149
Does not matter if they can materialize 2d into our dimension to fuck them with every opinion they make. It's not going to change how I feel about a game.

>> No.9179162

>>9179153
Please read the post again.

>>9179152
The first posts in the thread are all "nobody cares."

>> No.9179163

/v/ here

Never listen to reviewers.

Thank you.

>> No.9179166

>>9179163
But it's le moeshit

>> No.9179168

>>9179104
We almost got rid of point 'n click games in the nineties. Why the mouse, why?

>> No.9179177

>>9179168
Blizzard probably thought diablo 3 was a RTS game like starcraft 2, except you just micro 1 unit in D3. How silly of them!

>> No.9179194

This is clearly /jp/s 8.8!

Nobody gives a shit about Gamespot, they are bunch of normalfag journalists who only let 'sexualization' fly when it's in a FF game.

>> No.9179195

>>9177169
Where is that imagine babies one when you need it?

>> No.9179209

>>9179168
>point 'n click
You are a fucking retard.

>> No.9179224

But is it a fun game?

>> No.9179229

>>9179224
yeah bro

>> No.9179234

>>9179229
That's all I needed to know. Now I just need to purchase it somewhere I won't be recognized.

>> No.9179241

>>9179234
Order online

>> No.9179242
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>>9177145
he never said he didn't like that.

>> No.9179246

>>9179234
Who the hell doesn't buy games online in the year twenty twelve?

>> No.9179248

>>9179241
Now see I can not do that. My Mother always bring in the mail and inspect my packages before giving them to me.

>> No.9179258

>>9179248
Just let her know who you truly are deep inside. The sooner the better.

>> No.9179266

>>9179258
oh she knows already. She just doesn't approve. She still thinks there is hope for me, it's sad really.

>> No.9179406 [DELETED] 

Also this is 2012. Ever since 2001 people have been getting their opinions more on forums and IRC than from reviewers. The difference is they get paid to review shitty and good games and usually have to bump up the score as an industry practice. The consumer pays for them with their own money and will be more vocal and honest with their opinions about the game.

>> No.9179414

>>9179406
Don't forget blogs.

It's difficult though, because I don't know who to pay attention to.

>> No.9180045

Am I the only one bothered by the fact that people are spouting this about cartoon characters while kindergarden beauty pageants exist? I hope these same people are going after those girls, because those are infinitely more disturbing than anything I've seen in a video game.

>>9177756
I am going to watch Korean Zombie now.

>> No.9180090

>>9180045
Pretty sure everyone notices that.

I must have seen 30 things online lately where "nerdy" feminists are getting all butthurt over the way imaginary characters dress. It's a silly thing to be concerned over when there are bigger issues out there concerning actual living, breathing people.

>> No.9180313

>>9180045
>>9180090

If you lived in some places, you'd be horrified. Here, I used to pass by 9 year old girls discussing which used the biggest bra. And that was seven years ago, I don't even want to know now.

>> No.9181016

>>9177136
I for one, am glad that they give it 5.0. Imagine the day /v/ decides to jump into GUST threads, but double the numbers and half the age.

>> No.9181131 [DELETED] 

>>9180090
You mean feminists actually care about things that aren't about them?

>> No.9181136
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>>9180090
You mean feminists actually care about things that aren't about them?

>> No.9181157

>>9177641
>recognize art by tona taka
>imagine him drawing porn of the characters getting fucked by a dick

>> No.9181176
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9181176

Why they hating on Atelier Homumumuuu?

>> No.9181240

These "reviews" are almost always done by insecure white boys who don't like cooties in their manly games. You shouldn't take these guys seriously at all.

>> No.9181265

Why are JRPG haters just as loud and obnoxious as its defenders?

Why not love both East and West?

>> No.9181301

>>9181176
>>mimi sorta looks like homu

Can't unsee.

>>9181265
Nerds can't like both or else they would have nothing to argue about.

>> No.9181306
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>>9181301
Totori sorta has Madoka's demeanor too.
Coincidence?

>> No.9181318

>>9181306
>>9181301
>>9181176
Typical kusoge fans.

>> No.9181323

>>9181265

Why not love both white and black?

>> No.9181328
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9181328

>>9181318
Deal with it, nerd.

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>>9181157
if he could draw some porn of the characters he illustrated, it'd be great. for example, mistral.

she has almost no good stuff.

>> No.9181357

>>9181240
>These "reviews" are almost always done by insecure white boys who don't like cooties in their manly games.
Stop with the bias faggot, gamespot loves the faggy FFs;

>> No.9181363

I deleted my post by accident earlier but this was the gist of it:

The way I see it we live in a age where we should be relying on the opinions of forums, IRC's and user reviews rather than professional journalists. I have been living under this is idea since 2001 but I think it became clear just how bad modern game journalism is when Jeff Gerstmann was fired from Gamespot in 2007 for simply telling it how it is.

For games like Atelier Meruru there is no reason at all to expect professional journalists to get it and they will obviously hold it up to the standards that other games have set before it

>> No.9181369

Mainstream - 10/10
Indie - 9/10
Niche - 5/10

>> No.9181412

>>9181369
Casual - 10/10
Snorefest - 9/10
Hardcore 5/10

fixed

>> No.9181415

>>9181412
who HARDCORE gamer here

>> No.9181421

>>9181412
Mainstream - 10/10
Indie - 9/10
Kusoge - 5/10

Fixed for more accuracy.

>> No.9181422

I will also go on record to say that Ar Tonelico and Atelier are better games than 90% of the shit that is released today and a breath of fresh air.

>> No.9181433

>>9181421
But atelier meruru is very good.
If skyrim's a 9.5/10 meruru should be 16/10

>> No.9181472
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9181472

Atelier Meruru
>The Bad : Sexualized outfits on very young female protagonists

5.0

>> No.9181487

>>9181472
They rated this smut pretty well, I heard.

>> No.9181493

>>9181472
God why is she so PIG.

>> No.9181496

>>9181493
She reminds me of that Dead or Alive girls.

>> No.9182553

>>9178880
congrats on the marriage

>> No.9182575

I thought /jp/ hated gust

It's a sad day when neo-/jp/ starts defending them

>> No.9182579

>>9182575
The threads have been on /jp/ for years, just like the idol threads, kigurumi threads, doll threads, and figure threads.

>> No.9182590

>>9182575
>>9182579
Gust is just something /jp/er has to live with, like hemorrhoids.

>> No.9182596

>>9182575

Are you that one guy who hates GUST threads?

>> No.9182659

>>9182596
I'm one of them, yes.

>> No.9182666

>>918259
>Are you that one guy who hates GUST threads?
Are you that one guy who likes GUST shit?

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9184163

>>9181422

>> No.9184209

>5.0
>5.0
>5.0
>5.0
>5.0
>5.0
>5.0
>5.0
>5.0
>5.0

To be honest game reviews should focus on the GAMEPLAY, not on the art direction

>> No.9184215

gustbros are the best posters on /jp/
DEAL WITH IT

>> No.9184279

Dipshits bashin Atelier

Punk ass pussies

>> No.9184286

>>9184209
Actually game reviewers give 3~7 from companies who don't give anything to them, 7~8 for companies that do, 8~9 for companies who give the some money and 9~10 for companies that give them a lot of money.

>> No.9184328

So, are there any good reviewers who can separate a good jrpg from a bad jrpg? All western reviewers and most Japanese mainstream reviewers seem to rate them completely arbitrarily.

>> No.9184378

>>9184328
Why bother with a review at all when you can watch a gameplay video and judge it for yourself?

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