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Let's play elonaplus /jp/

>> No.9116857

How's it different from regular elona?

>> No.9116865

>>9116857
basically a continuation of normal elona which is dead

more contents

>> No.9116877

Can you actually progress to high level dungeons now without cheating your way through? I swear that shit wanted me to grind for ten years or something.

>> No.9116896

>>9116877
cheating is boring
be a man and play without savescumming

>> No.9116901

>>9116865
Though so far I still haven't seen that many new things yet.

>> No.9116910

>>9116901
probably because they're for higher levels

btw can you chat/look at the name poll?
can't seem to do so here, shows could not connect to the server.

>> No.9116940

...can I port my normal Elona save in that?
...is completely in moon?

>> No.9116945

>>9116940
No.
And the moon people are translating the game to English as they add new content.

>> No.9116941
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>>9116842
Does it come in "Tagalog"

>> No.9116950

>>9116945
>>9116945
>No
okay, see ya.

>> No.9116954

>>9116952
They didn't need to as Noa released the source code.

>> No.9116951

>>9116940
>>9116945
you can if your save isnt from the beta version

>> No.9116952

>>9116842
Is this a new codebase or are did they manage to reverse engineer the original?

>> No.9116964

>>9116950
It is the perfect opportunity for vets to try out the Snail Tourist challenge!

>> No.9116965

>>9116945
I must have made a mistake because when I started the game, I could choose between Japanese and English. I got this from the Elonaplus page which was in full Japanese, so what happened here?

>> No.9116968

>>9116965
Like I said, since they are translating the game as they go the added the option to pick English from the start.

>> No.9116977

>>9116964
Not everybody is immortal. I don't have all that time to dedicate at grinding.

>> No.9117009
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9117009

Man, I haven't played Elona since forever. What does E+ change from the original?

>>9116941
How many doujin games get dubbed to Tagalog?

>>9116945
>And the moon people are translating the game to English
They are? That's unexpected. I figure they'd leave it for fans to translate.

>> No.9117054

>>9117009
...is that Mystia?

>> No.9117112

>>9117009
I feel trolled.

>> No.9117125
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>>9117054
Yeap! You can visit other peoples houses and add their custom NPCs to your world. Touhous are not uncommon.
Definitely hoping E+ keeps that feature.

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9117150

Oh, they added in a new god. Wonder what pets/equipment she gives.

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9117206

Can someone provide a download link? I'll be away so I'll check for it later if someone post it.

>> No.9117234

>>9117206
http://wikiwiki.jp/elonaplus/

>> No.9117237

Holy shit, a continuation of Elona?

Sign me the fuck up.

>> No.9117244

>>9117125
Reimu confirmed for Yowin vulgar dirty humble redneck peasant
enemy of youkais and hygiene

>> No.9117298

>>9117234
Thanks for the link, downloading.

>> No.9117318

What are the most outstanding new elements added to the game? I just noticed Gunner and Predator becoming playable classes in the beginning.

>> No.9117321

>>9117318
take a look at this
http://wikiwiki.jp/elonaplus/?Elona%A1%DC%B9%B9%BF%B7%BE%F5%B6%B7

google translate if can't into moon

>> No.9117347

dat feel when no seeds to plant

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9117353

This is now a NetHack thread.

>> No.9117363

Is magic still as shitty as cursed beer is godly?

>> No.9117472

>>9117150
>Oh, they added in a new god. Wonder what pets/equipment she gives.

Yaketakuto's servant is a platinum goose
Her weapon is a coin that's used as a throwing weapon.
It gives bonuses to trading skills and has a +20 to hit.
She also gives a jewel that generates platinum coins, but has a long cooldown.

This is all from the google translated wiki. Account for errors in tranlation.

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>>9117353
Your Evoker looks familiar somehow.

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I just noticed that random names in items are different from japanese and english.

buckler of forgotten orgy

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9117751

becomes this

>> No.9117780

Hey guys.
Elona plus seem to be the most popular here.
But it isn't in Japan.
Don't you play other valiants?

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>>9117780
Never tried playing it though.

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>>9117780
To be honest, I haven't been following Elona since Noa stopped updating. Until this thread I had no idea there were any variants!

If you would recommend any others, I'd certainly try them out.

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9119590

Sorry can't give up on all this grinding.

>> No.9119603

Anyone knows how can I identify my items without using all my money? 300 is just too much.
Also, is there any way to see the health of my companion? (little girl of course)

>> No.9119625

>>9119603
Sense Quality and a Stethoscope

>> No.9119826

Is there any english wiki on this game?

>> No.9119923

So is this game less hard? what should i do first to level up quick? whats the easiest class?

>> No.9119939

>>9119826
Read the thread.

>> No.9119972

>>9119923
Easier than normal elona.
They even added quicksave and quickload so savescum all you want if you're a fag.

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9120004

does anyone still have the links to those custom NPC packs?

>> No.9120123

You slice /jp/ and transform her into several pieces of meat. <3

>> No.9120765

why cant my elona connect to internet?
cant even vote alias...

>> No.9120808

how do I get points in the party jobs? I always end up playing blackjack.

>> No.9121303

>>9120808

Gotta play music, either use the pianos next to the npcs or bring your own instrument. You will need the performer skill I believe, the crowd can be hard to please at early levels so yeah.

>> No.9121464

I forgot, but was there someone to tell you what direction people you have to locate for quests are? It's hard to find specific people in a town, especially when they move around.

>> No.9121474

>>9121464
Don't you just ask the guards?

>> No.9121518
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9121518

For people wondering about what Elona+ adds.

http://www.mediafire.com/?xp7kz6lz2ep3z67

Here's some notes, I created most of them, but somebody else added the bestiary.

I was actually discussing this in /vg/'s roguelike general for a while now.

A lot of shit has been added including the entirety of South Tyris.

Unless you're a super grinder, you'll have to cheat your way through most of the new South Tyris main quest probably. I only managed up to Rehmido with savescumming, when I got there, there were spellcasters who could instagib my adventurer companion who pretty much carried the entirety of what I did before that in the main quest as well as me despite having superb resistances to every single element.

>> No.9121529

>>9120004
I actually do.

But this is very old.

http://www.mediafire.com/?rrnqtes2szm4uv2

Haven't downloaded a whole bunch of moongates and looked through all of them for CNPCs and summoning crystals in a long while.

http://hpcgi3.nifty.com/rfish/usercgi/clip.cgi

I should probably do that sometime when I'm not feeling lazy, but I've been feeling lazy a lot recently so it'd be nice if somebody else did.

>> No.9121541

>>9121518

How did you get so much speed? 1584 even with the punishment debuff is amazing.

>> No.9121547
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9121547

Also miscellaneous things not mentioned in the notes.

Martial arts is now viable and you get several unique skills while training it, there are also unique artifact tonfas which are shields which give large boosts to martial arts.

There are many added skills in general, ensemble, rampage, shadow step, and a few utility skills for familiars are the ones that have been easily found,

Some of the skills you get have had their levels changed including draw and fill charge as well as swarm from tactics.

A swimming skill has been added. It increases your speed when in wet. Now you can Lomias.

Actually this wasn't really miscellaneous, but related to skills and abilities mostly.

Oh yeah, Gwen changes depending on how many times you've killed her.

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>>9121541
I was wizard moding heavily while testing stuff.

I needed the speed to kill the super Gods.

Well I didn't actually need to kill the super Gods as their regular corpses dropped what I wanted, but I needed to kill them because they would kill me the instant I stood in their sight and slightly outside it. I had to get all that speed, enter the town from the opposite side after killing their regular forms, and then spam mewmewmew until their super forms died.

By the way, all the Gods have new super forms. I was really confused when I first found out judging by the old filename.

>> No.9121637

>>9121556
They sound insanely powerful, where are these gods found normally?

>> No.9121652

>>9121637
They follow the Ehekatl formula.

Wish for them then kill them to spawn the super version.

>> No.9121672

I loved Elona, but I kept quitting because I never felt like I was actually making any progress.
Too grindy for me.

>> No.9121685

>>9121672
Then play a performer, you'll feel like you're making super progress in comparison to a regular character. Even faster if you can get a gene with a bunch of performer boosting equipment.

>> No.9121723

dat feel when you accidentally sell shit you're supposed to deliver in a quest

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>>9121652
Good to know, but they sound pretty endgame tier so ill be using wishes for safer things.

Speaking of wishing though, I got the seven league boots and aurora ring already, oh and a happy bed from cupid drop, any recommendations for wishing at this point? I've been using them for getting new skills as they cost 50 platinum for me now, am I wasting wishes?

Also I noticed in the notes you posted a section for weapons discovered from wishing, do you need to be in wizard mode for those ones?

>> No.9121782

>super gods
>cheating to make grind reasonable
uh...I'm at level 14 and I'm already bored to death
besides
>>9119603
>300 is just too much
how? just make some extra high rank delivery mission and you'll swim into money

>> No.9121792

>>9121755
Wish for a cat.
I like cats.

>> No.9121810

>>9121792
Well, okay, actually can you wish for a cat girl? Kinda been interested in getting one so if you can wish for a cat girl diary that would be excellent.

>> No.9121832

>>9121810
I have no idea. and the english Elona wiki doesn't say anything about it.

>> No.9121838

>>9121810
You can't. Anything precious is off-limits for wishes unless you're in Wizard mode.

You'll either have to buy one from Miral and Garok or hope an adventurer finds one so you can trade for it. They don't value diaries particularly highly.

>> No.9121871

>>9121838
they don't value catgirls? shit taste undoubtfully detected.

>> No.9121873

>>9121838
I'll wait for an adventurer to have one then, I got 72 medals but I'd rather use it for something that can only be obtained at Miral and Garok. Well gotta Ill probably do a secret experience of Kuminori or just stick with getting all the skills if a wish turns up.

>> No.9121874

>sleep
>get 2 treasure maps

fuck yea

>> No.9121905

Shena's ass is the best.

>> No.9121920

This game is too hard. I made a thief and tried to level up by thieving. People caught me after like 3 thievings and killed me. I tried leveling through quests and it wasn't any better. My thieving skills were useless against the enemies.

>> No.9121927

>>9121920
learn short teleport
buy mirrors

>> No.9121947

>>9121920
Well, stealing stuff is kind of hard in the beginning, even more if you don't know the game system. try starting a fighter and playing some level with it. high hp will prevent too many deaths, and try to learn what you need. consider that you can add almost any skill to any class, you just need to buy it.
an easy but painful way to make karma rise is making the cops mangle your ass. remember to drop all your stuff in your home before starting the violent redemption

>> No.9121952

>>9121920
I went to random tiles in the snowy areas and stole the dead looking trees (yeah really, trees) you need 28 STR to be able to steal them, kill all enemies as some alert guards despite being in the wilderness, you can then drop the tress leave and re-enter a spot to spawn new trees.

Sometimes you'll lose 1 karma so make sure you stop when it reaches 0 so it doesn't go in the minus otherwise guards will attack you, do jobs to get karma up. Pickpocket needs STR to attempt higher weight stuff, speed increases chance so don't be burdened, sleepy or hungry. If you are trying on an NPC, making THEM sleep or drunk helps your chances, can be amazing if a drunken adventurer comes to your house with some nice stuff.

>> No.9122000

Any idea how to get rid of doors in your house? Using design doesn't work, cant pick them up either.

>> No.9122002

>>9122000
bash them

>> No.9122027
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>>9122002
Cant, its already open I it hit thin air, or if I stand on it and bash middle I hit myself instead.

>> No.9122054

>>9122027
close them and bash

>> No.9122065

>>9122054
Oh I feel silly, didn't notice the close action on the help screen before, thanks.

>> No.9122163

Any new translation or it's just the old stuff only?

>> No.9122227

>>9122163
the new stuff are translated too, just not 100%

>> No.9122289

>>9122227
Did they translate some of the older stuffs? Like the untranslated catsisters "Big brother!" "Big brother?!" "Big brother?"?

>> No.9122306

>>9122289
i think the old stuff are left untouched

>> No.9122552

What do the "accessories" for offering to Yacatect include? Ring, necklace, anything else?

>> No.9122678

>performing in a corner of town
>suddenly loyter blinks in
>dead, lose 150000 gold to revive and 1 dex
>mfw

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>>9122678

>> No.9123153

Oh man. Elona+ looks uglier than the old one. I seriously hope there's some graphic pack around.
also, no new starting feats. and almost the same tileset in the home editor.
I'm not sure I'm ready to quit the old one

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where the fuck is this

>> No.9123337 [DELETED] 

>>9122678

Who are you quoting?

>> No.9123349

>>9123318
Just east of Lumiest possibly.

>> No.9124118

How many hours does an average main quest play through take? Assuming you have some experience with the game and knowledge about mechanics and tricks.

>> No.9124128

>>9124118
Less than 2 hours easily if you don't include leveling and you aren't killing everything on every map that you have to go through.

>> No.9124570

I've just spent more than 2 hours trying to edit a Disgaea sprite to use it into Elona.
what I'm doing with my life?

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>>9124570
That's not that much.
I probably spent longer porting/editing this sprite of Forte.

Enjoy it, /jp/.

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>>9124612
I also made up a portrait for her.
You need to convert them both to .bmp to work, I think.

>> No.9124709

>>9124631
>>9124612
Well, that's some impressive dedication sir.
how much time for that?
...weeks?

>> No.9124715

>>9124709
2 weeks

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>>9124709
Oh, I didn't make them, I just took them from this.
It honestly didn't take that long, but I had to spend time getting them exactly the right size and position on the sprite file. Parts of the sprite would cut off into the next position, so I needed to get it just right.

Would have been cool if I made them.
I think sheets exist for every Galaxy Angel.

>>9124715
what

>> No.9124788

>>9124739
Oh, I see.
>tenchionline.com
...how much old is that thing?
>>9124715
congrats on two weekage

>> No.9127011

age

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