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VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sat Jun 2 21:02:14 2012 No.9109087 [Reply] [Original]

Visual Novel translation status

11eyes - 2nd partial patch out, very slow to effectively stalled for the time because of the main translator needing to deal with real life unless a new primary translator joins
Acchi Muite Koi - 5% translated
Air - 25% translated and 23% edited
>Aiyoku no Eustia - prologue complete, chapter 1 complete, chapter 2 4% edited
Akai Ito- Yumei's route released, Nozomi route fully inserted,Uzuki route 40% inserted, 14300/21674 (65.98%) overall inserted, last untranslated arc being translated by original translator
Amagami - "Prologue patch ETA ~July 2nd. Alpha testing underway"
Apathy Midnight Collection - fully translated, one arc left to edit
>Baldr Sky - 938/10284 (9.12%)lines of Nanoha route translated. Overall progress: 19666/91443 (21.51%) lines, 998.44/4720.14 (21.15%) kb, 78/196 (39.8%) scripts
Cartagra - Initial translation complete, future is unknown
Concerto Note - C&D, continuing, translation at 42%, editing at 18%
Daiteikoku - 35% translated partial patch out
DraKoi- Initial translation complete
>Dracu-Riot - prologue patch released, 5608/53707 (10.44%) lines translated
>Eiyuu Senki- dropped because of DMCA
>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 80.5% translated, third partial patch out
>Fortune Arterial- Prologue completly translated, Kiriha route patch testing, Kanade route 20%, Erika route 60%, Haruna route 50%
>Hadaka Shitsuji - 46.00% translated
>Grisaia no Kajitsu- 93.1% of the common route translated
Hakuisei Renai Shoukougun - 4 scripts translated
Hanahira - 15 of 50 scripts translated
>Higanbana no Saku Yoru Ni - Released
Higurashi Daybreak - being translated
>Hinomaru- 29% translated, main arc editing
Hunks Workshop - ~25% rough translation
Ikusa Megami Zero - Project alive again, 5205 lines translated
Imouto Paradise - 5% translated

VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sat Jun 2 21:02:29 2012 No.9109089

>Irotoridori no Sekai - 35,369/51,100 (69.22%) lines translated, full common route, Kana, Tsukasa, and Kyou route translated, prologue patch released
Kimiaru - Day one translated
Koitate - Ren and Yukino’s route patch released
>Kud Wafter - Translation started
>Little Busters - Original released, work ongoing with EX./ME content, Sasami route 66.83% (4472/6691) translated
>Majikoi- Yukie + Chris + Momoyo + Wanko + teacher route patch released, Miyako route 40% translated
M&M Enchanting Magic & Sweet Charms- 92%
Mahoutsukai no Yoru - Trial patch released, work on the full game planned
Mirai no Uta to Tsunagaru Hitomi - Translation planned
Muv-Luv Chronicles - Work being done on The Day After 00 + 01
>Never 7 - all 113 scripts and 94 of 111 tips through initial translation, 99/113 scripts through final translation, 67/113 scripts through final translation+editing, preview patch out
Nursery Rhyme - 9049/34410 lines (26.3%) translated
Oreimo PSP - Significant progress made with a youtube translation
Pandora no Yume - 15-17% translated
Parfait- Translation planned
>Period- game total translation: 94.83% complete, Miyu + Rin + Aoi + Kohane + Tsuzumi + Miyu patches released, next patch will be final
Princess Maker 5- 44% translated
Pure Pure The Story of Ears and Tails- Sachi Patch released, 85.48% translated
>Real Imouto - 5745/16108 (35.67%) translated
Rance 3 - 75% translated
Rance 4 - 20% translated
>Rance 6 - teaser patch out, "All Character Names Translated. All Location names translated. Combat interface fully translated".
Rance Quest - between 4 and 5%

VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sat Jun 2 21:03:12 2012 No.9109096

Official work

MangaGamer
Dengeki Strykers - Trial out and preorders open, 6/22 release
Ef - checking final build
Harukoi Otome - TL/Editing complete, Scripting in April, latter half of 2012 release expected
OtoBoku - 8/20 scripts translated
>Eroge - 33/60 H-scenes translated
Da Capo III - Mentioned at AX
Innocent Grey would also like to bring over an upcoming title related to Kara no Shoujo
Negotiations with age still ongoing
Negotiations for Oretsuba are still ongoing
Games from Denbonosu - "Hopefully in the future with MangaGamer, I can do something in the US too."[president of Denbonosu]
Negotiations ongoing with Clochette, would like to bring over Kamikaze Explorers
Picked up a Circus title with gameplay

JAST
>School Days HQ - Golden Master
Yumina the Ethereal - "Script and images translated. Working on insertion and testing"
Moero Downhill Night Blaze- 90% translated, fixing bug
Saya no Uta - 99% complete
Hanachirasu - 99% complete
Django: Couple more months of translation
Kikokugai - Working out issues
>Sumaga- expected to be fully translated this year
Seinarukana- picked up, ~38% translated
Starless - Work ongoing
Starry Sky- negotations with voice actors
Muramasa - Common route complete, 2 of 5 chapters towards true end translated, uncertain what will come from the project
Steins;Gate - 2nd pass: 154/175 Scripts. Phone and TIPS edited, rough patch out, Jast may pick up the project

Other
LUDESIA- English release planned
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread
A tracker for these threads put together by Tinfoil: http://vntls.tindabox.net/

VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sat Jun 2 21:03:13 2012 No.9109090

>Rewrite - 37753.15/101220 (37.3%) lines translated
>Rose Guns Days‬ - Will be translated by Witch Hunt with the blessings of 07th Expansion
Sakura Wars 1 - Project started
Sapphism no Gensou - 47 scripts translated
Sensei Da-isuki 2- roughly 25% translated, still active
Sharin no Kuni, Yuukyuu no Shounenshoujo - Fully translated, someone has gone through all the scripts for editing
Shinigami no Kiss wa Wakare no Aji - Common route and Honoka's route translated, overall 12361/18147 = 68.12% lines translated
Sin- 65% of episode 1 translated
>Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 6- fully translated, 8/15 scripts through TLC
Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 8- fully translated
>Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 9- 4/18 scripts translated
>Sumaga Special - KBs done: [193.39kb/8131.54kb] (2.38%)
Tenshi No Inai 12-Gatsu-"Maho route fixed"
Togainu No Chi- 77% translated, partial patch out
To Heart2- 63% translated- "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", new alpha patch released
>Tomoyo After - Patch scheduled for July 20th
Touka Gettan: translation status: ~40% translated
Welcome to Pia Carrot 2 - 1st draft translation 35%, as it was found much of the script was originally not dumped
>White Album 2 - Overall: 2989/70253 (4.25%) lines translated, Introductory Chapter: 2989/10769 (27.75%) lines translated
>Yandere - 85% translated
Yoakemae Yori Ruriiro Na - 100% translated, 28% edited
Yosuga no Sora - Roughly 40% translated, goal for greater than 50% patch around mid-to-late february

>Aroduc's secret project - 6 chapters translated

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:07:58 2012 No.9109108 thanks for your hard work

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:08:27 2012 No.9109111 Air should have some kind of nice suprise this weekend.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:22:13 2012 No.9109172 What ever Aroduc is working on seems to have a short chapter 6, seeing that he finished it in a week.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:32:12 2012 No.9109226 >>9109172 or maybe it's all the redbull

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:35:58 2012 No.9109246 >>9109226 http://vntls.tindabox.net/project/aroduc-1 One chapter a week seems about normal besides whatever was going on between 4 and 5.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:37:42 2012 No.9109255 Aroduc's been going about 1 chapter a week since chapter 3. There's not even any proof that the game has chapters, he could just be screwing with us.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:38:27 2012 No.9109261 >>9109246 If it's duel savior, he should start the routes in a couple of weeks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:39:42 2012 No.9109271 >Kimiaru - Day one translated WHAT >Sumaga- expected to be fully translated this year Yeah, my ass.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:40:43 2012 No.9109279 File: 977 KB, 800x600, sharn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9109271 >Yeah, my ass. Wait, hope, you know the drill.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:41:59 2012 No.9109288 I thought the Sumage Special guys were dropping the project.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:43:13 2012 No.9109296 >>9109087 >Eiyuu Senki- dropped because of DMCA SUUUUURE, just like AIR was dropped last time because of a C&D letter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:45:43 2012 No.9109308 The best thread of the week is here again!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:50:46 2012 No.9109333 >Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 80.5% translated, third partial patch out .3 progress... Better than nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:50:58 2012 No.9109335 >>9109279 I'm currently waiting on Rewrite because I know it will actually be translated, if not edited.

Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:51:12 2012 No.9109344

>>9109246
>One chapter a week seems about normal besides whatever was going on between 4 and 5.

If he was still working on chapter 4 at the time when he was through 16 scripts, that is rather useful info if there are tools for whatever he is working on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:51:27 2012 No.9109340 >>9109333 It's mostly machine translated, it's not even 50% done.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:57:47 2012 No.9109369 >>9109288 Holy crap people can't read. What a surprise. Let me just copypaste somethign fro the blog: >Don’t worry though, I have no plans to drop this in the near future

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:59:12 2012 No.9109382 >>9109369 >An untested nobody on the internet said something, it must be true! Okay.

Anonymous Sat Jun 2 21:59:12 2012 No.9109384

Futsuu has achieved the impossible: going slower than Fate/Hollow. A whopping 0.5% this week.

Making something like 1.5% in two months. At this pace he'll be done in about 10 years. Maybe he should have finished this before reserving his next work after this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 22:00:28 2012 No.9109386 I don't think anyone ever has 'plans' to drop something. ...Well, ok unless they're trolling

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 22:00:57 2012 No.9109390 >>9109382 The owner of the project said he wasn't dropping it, in the project's blog... Either you were somehow trying to be sarcastic and I didn't get it. Or you're just stupid.

Anonymous Sat Jun 2 22:07:58 2012 No.9109411

>>9109390
You're being hopelessly naive. And like the other anon said, nobody plans to drop a project they've started. That's a completely vacuous statement and in fact, if people are actually working on it, that question won't ever be asked to begin with.

>>9109384
While I doubt it'll be that long, I am chuckling at all the people who are still hoping that Dive 1 will be out by the end of summer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 22:09:12 2012 No.9109419 >>9109411 Well, the quote does make more sense in the context that it was actually extracted from.. I just took it as "Ok, I'll be a bit busy but I'll keep working on this"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 22:10:28 2012 No.9109420 >>9109384 He blew through the first route. That kind of pace is hard to maintain consistently. At least it's moving.

Anonymous Sat Jun 2 22:12:57 2012 No.9109429

>>9109384
>Maybe he should have finished this before reserving his next work after this.
If he hadn't reserved it, Insemination would have picked it up. Personally, I'd rather have to wait a year (or two, or whatever) longer for Parfait and get an actual competent translation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 22:14:43 2012 No.9109434 >>9109384 Sorry, I was wrong. Last week he was at 21.05%, this week he's at 21.15%, so it's a +0.1% and not 0.5% as I optimistically speculated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 22:15:13 2012 No.9109441 Why does the F/HA patch only go 40% into the game?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 22:21:43 2012 No.9109469 Been a while since I've checked this. Thanks VNTS. Looks like Honey Coming isn't even on the list anymore... oh well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 22:50:22 2012 No.9109637 >>9109441 Because the vast majority of their progress on top of that is unedited, wiki contributions (including some truly shitty work) that they have to slowly clean up over time

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 22:55:15 2012 No.9109669 File: 287 KB, 480x360, 1292528735779.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Grisaia no Kajitsu- 93.1% of the common route translated

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 22:58:44 2012 No.9109687 Anyone got the web for the translation group of Rance 6?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 22:59:29 2012 No.9109691 Togainu no Chi's complete patch should be out in July, supposedly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 22:59:44 2012 No.9109693 >>9109687 You're looking for the world wide one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 23:00:15 2012 No.9109697 >>9109687 http://rancetranslation.wordpress.com/

>>	RapeWhistle(Leader of the Knights of the Farts) !P0IfHjzAm. Sat Jun 2 23:00:59 2012 No.9109701 >>9109691 Kool

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 23:02:14 2012 No.9109711 >>9109697 Thank you kind anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 2 23:07:29 2012 No.9109739 >>9109669 Really looking forward to this one. I hear it's good and cannibalism.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 00:16:46 2012 No.9109976 http://vndb.org/v8508

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 00:26:01 2012 No.9110009 If Ixrec's editors didn't suck I'd be playing Rewrite's common route right now. >>9109976 Speaking of Liar-Soft, did a compatibility patch ever come out for the Inganock and Sharnoth rereleases?

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 02:03:02 2012 No.9110094

OK, I'm kinda new here. I'm just going to vent.

When people talk about machine translation, that's when they take the unaltered result from Google Translate and and slap it into a patch, right?

The problem isn't with Google Translate or other software, it's lazy people not without any financial incentive to translate.

Anyone can translate a single line well if they give themselves enough time, a grammar book, and internet dictionary resources.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 02:10:16 2012 No.9110118 >>9110094 Not quite sure what your point is.

>>	RapeWhistle(Leader of the Knights of the Farts) !P0IfHjzAm. Sun Jun 3 02:10:47 2012 No.9110120 >>9110094 Wut a nerd

>>	Y10NRDY !kxh.1oTAkU Sun Jun 3 02:19:47 2012 No.9110159 >>9109087 >Eiyuu Senki- dropped because of DMCA Pussy ass n*ggaz. >Higanbana no Saku Yoru Ni - Released Another good quality translation released in a reasonable time frame. I'm going to get spoiled. Great job, guys.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 02:22:32 2012 No.9110173 >>9110159 >reasonable time frame Uhh...

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 02:24:31 2012 No.9110185

>>9110094
Hold on.

Are you, by chance, one of those misguided people that think you can obtain a reasonable translation by just editing machine output?

If that's the case, STOP right there. We've been over this countless number of times. Machine translation does not work for East-Asian languages, period. Nope, not even for preschool-level text. You'll have better luck looking at the illustrations and rewriting the whole story from scratch.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 02:26:16 2012 No.9110195 >>9110185 Nice hyperbole there buddy. Machine translation at least gets the meaning of individual words right most of the time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 02:27:31 2012 No.9110199 >>9110195 Spoken like someone who knows nothing about Japanese. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null-subject_language

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 02:29:48 2012 No.9110207

>>9110195
You've never tried reading a VN with machine translation before, have you? It does not work well.

If you're just talking about using something like Rikaichan, I might mostly agree, but even that doesn't always work because you still have to be familiar with how words are used in addition to their literal meaning.

Also you would be slow as shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 02:31:48 2012 No.9110216 >>9110199 >>9110207 Which explains the horde of people going through VNs with AGTH and TA? Because TA isn't basically machine translation x5?

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 02:31:48 2012 No.9110220

>>9110195
That's not "machine translation", that's a "dictionary". And even then, "most of the time" is rather exaggerated.

It works great for Spanish, Italian, French... heck, I use Google Translate for Italian->English regularly myself.

It falls flat on its face for Japanese, however. Sorry.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 02:33:47 2012 No.9110227 >>9110216 Yes. Have you tried it? With even moderately complex sentences, TA fails miserably.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 02:33:48 2012 No.9110231 >>9110216 And who says they're getting the story in any actual form? You? Or do we need Cudder to come in and post some of his machine translated lines to convince you how fucked up it is?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 02:35:56 2012 No.9110241 >>9110227 >>9110231 My offence was at the hyperbole. I'm not saying machine translation is perfect, just that it is better than "looking at the illustrations and rewriting the whole story from scratch.".

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 02:43:02 2012 No.9110270 >>9109976 They have the scripts up, and it had looked like a starting project, but no one has done anything since.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 02:43:02 2012 No.9110274

>>9110241
Ha. I know it doesn't sound very convincing unless you have at least some introductory knowledge of the language, but... trust me, it's a lot less of a stretch than you think.

Either of those "methods" would be at least 90% (very) creative writing. I suppose you could say that getting a machine to generate random junk is easier than coming up with something yourself.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 02:46:31 2012 No.9110282

>>9110185
>Are you, by chance, one of those misguided people that think you can obtain a reasonable translation by just editing machine output?

I'm not saying anything controversial, I think. I'm just saying that a decent translator would at least take the machine output as a base, and then using other resources to fill gaps in his understanding.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:13:23 2012 No.9110372

>>9110282
Nope, that's very much counterproductive.

You're probably making another common mistake - assuming that /understanding/ the text is the time-consuming part. It is not. Not by a long stretch.

Think of "translating" as mostly just "writing", but without the convenience of being able to change the story as you go.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:30:09 2012 No.9110438 >>9110372 Funny how this common mistake is made by 90% of fan translators.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:31:24 2012 No.9110440

>>9110372
Thanks. I guess I should read stuff about the translating profession in general.

With voiced VNs I'm forced to link together spoken and written Japanese unlike any other medium I've used. Soon I started thinking about these kind of things more.

>>	Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!FBeUS42x4uM Sun Jun 3 03:35:09 2012 No.9110457 File: 481 KB, 962x602, WINE - FH_IfThatTime_BetaDRM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] KNNWSNY - 100% translated 100% edited Image editing and other non-script items being worked on.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:35:23 2012 No.9110454

>>9110438
Sad, but true. Translating and writing are two very different talents and in professional translating, the latter is far more prized while the internet throws a shit fit about taking any liberties at all for fan translators so that discourages people from working like that. Note that I'm not calling what groups like gg do good at all either. Far from it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:36:38 2012 No.9110461 >>9110282 If he has gaps in his understanding so wide he has to resort to machine translations even as a base, he's not a decent translator.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:38:08 2012 No.9110471 >>9110457 >That is ------ because she likes. Do you really think anybody wants such garbage products, Cudder? Maybe you could try posting a screenshot that doesn't have multiple obvious errors.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:39:38 2012 No.9110477

>>Rose Guns Days‬ - Will be translated by Witch Hunt with the blessings of 07th Expansion

The premise of this game is retarded and borderline offensive, but it's nice to hear that reading it in English will be an option. And R07 continues to be an awesome dude.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:40:38 2012 No.9110480 >>9110457 That's 100% edited text? You know, I've never seen you post a single image from one of your progress that didn't have an indisputable mistake in it. That is not correct English.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:41:23 2012 No.9110484 File: 15 KB, 153x200, 1280395043623.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So much good news this week.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:42:53 2012 No.9110493 >>9109333 Another .2 since this post was made, at least.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:47:38 2012 No.9110512

OP, if you want up to date information on Rance 6, you have to lurk on /vg/ on the Rance General daily.

Here are some of the translator's recent posts.

http://archive.foolz.us/search/username/%20Ludo-Rathowm/order/desc/

>Rough estimate on translation progress: 688/104155 lines

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:47:38 2012 No.9110513 >>9110480 That second line is three sentence fragments strung together followed by an obviously incorrect transitional phase. I don't even know where to begin.

Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!FBeUS42x4uM Sun Jun 3 03:48:53 2012 No.9110520

>>9110471
Do you really think anybody wants your garbage opinion, Anonymous?

It's obvious to anyone who has a brain what that means: She likes Stephen.

Besides, if you idiots can somehow find meaning in "which 2hu fck u", this should be trivial.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:50:23 2012 No.9110525 >>9110520 You are clearly English literate. Why do you persist in defending what is clearly not English? Why don't you just correct it and create a product that at least appears to be good?

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:52:23 2012 No.9110529

>>9110520
He never said that we couldn't figure it out. It's just poorly written, low quality, garbage.

The nonsensical line is "The truth, like inside her own chest it is burning, she is in love with Stephen." Are you playing dumb, or are you really so retarded as to not realize that your translations are frequently incomprehensible, and where comprehensible, just poorly-written?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:52:41 2012 No.9110530 File: 1.66 MB, 1942x4592, 1338709708248.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ReTrans Quality(TM) Translations

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:54:54 2012 No.9110541 >>9110520 .... .... .... ....Do you, by some remote chance, realize how retarded you make yourself look? I mean, holy hell. You'd have to have a serious mental illness not to understand what you were told here...

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 03:59:53 2012 No.9110563

A romantic galge by Cudder

Guy goes to school
Sees girl
Is infatuated with girl
Makes passes at girl
Partakes in humorous events which cause girl to like him
They date
They mate
Credits

PS : I heard you idiots could fill in the blanks so I only translated the parts which were necessary to understand the plot without taking time or consideration to make an interesting read

Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!FBeUS42x4uM Sun Jun 3 04:00:39 2012 No.9110565

>>9110525
Unlike you, I don't look down on people whose skills are below mine. Keep in mind that this translator has not received *any* formal English nor Japanese training. He's said it's all from the Internet.

>>9110530
We didn't have anything to do with that, and turned him away to the TLwiki tools page. NScripter crap. ...The only thing that has me wondering there is "with a nullpo"...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:01:53 2012 No.9110568 >>9110454 I like NNL because they cut out terrible repetitive dialogue from bad games like Wind, improving them immensely.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:02:38 2012 No.9110571 >>9110565 Really, Cud-Tan? REALLY? You really think either of those sentences are defensible?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:04:24 2012 No.9110581 File: 69 KB, 313x446, 977e4d8085ac70eabea474d0be4c06b3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > nullpo GA

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:08:37 2012 No.9110593 >>9110457 >BETA BETA BETA Are you making money off of this? If so, send me the script and some cash. I'll have the entire thing edited into understandable English by the end of the week.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:09:10 2012 No.9110599 >>9110593 Wouldn't that be funny? The last time he had editors, he kicked them off for not accepting his glorious vision of a pure Japanese translation done in the most lossless form. Typos, mistakes, and all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:09:47 2012 No.9110597 School days soon fellow thadfans

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:12:22 2012 No.9110611 >>9110571 Allow me to translate for you: >>9110565 > I don't want to admit I was being a total idiot, so I'm going to try changing the topic by replying with something even more idiotic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:13:37 2012 No.9110612 >>9110565 Even I can see through the bad translation that it's supposed to be an onomatopoeia, which often derps hard in machine translators. If the translator can't even understand such a simple concept of Japanese, why is he even trying...

Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!FBeUS42x4uM Sun Jun 3 04:22:07 2012 No.9110636

>>9110593
No, but that reminds me the translator sent a pic of FH "3-in-1 language" DVD he bought. They managed to integrate our RTM in there.

>>9110571
I don't know what you mean by "defensible" but I could certainly understand what it's saying. Then again, I've read much worse.

"Be conservative in what you do, be liberal in what you accept from others."

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:23:23 2012 No.9110637

>Sumaga- expected to be fully translated this year
Sure. Expecting to be out in 2050.

Anyway I'm happy to see that Grisaia's common route is almost translated, is he going to release a partial patch?
I guess the other routes are long too (well, maybe not as much as the common route though).

Not so happy to notice that Irotoridori's project is not as fast as it was months ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:23:37 2012 No.9110638 -Eiyuu Senki: C&D-dropped. Who cares? -Sakura Wars: dropped. This is truly sad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:34:37 2012 No.9110677 >>911063 I don't think I've seen a single VN where the common route isn't longer than the character routes.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:34:37 2012 No.9110678

I don't understand you, Cudder. You see problems, and instead of taking a few seconds to fix them so you can give the semblance of a quality project, you come here and pick fights. Is it just to stir up drama? Is that why you're advertising obviously poor work?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:42:51 2012 No.9110709 >>9110512 >688/104155 lines Is that good for one guy? I hope he doesnt burn out

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:47:22 2012 No.9110719 >>9110709 For a week's worth of work? Hell no. The quick translators do four times that in a week. Doing the math, that puts completion at 2015.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:49:08 2012 No.9110726

>>9110372
>Think of "translating" as mostly just "writing", but without the convenience of being able to change the story as you go.

That's actually a really good way to put it. But it's something you a lot of newer translators don't realize, because they're still pretty lacking on the understanding side of things, so it's more of a decoding process than true translation (I say this as someone who's been in that position in the past). Though sometimes the better you understand it intuitively, the harder it becomes to parse it into the target language and you start to spend a lot more time digging through thesauruses to find the right word than Japanese dictionaries.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:49:53 2012 No.9110729

>>9110709
Only after a couple of weeks, he finished the interface , did a shit-load of image editing, and managed to get 688 lines done anyway. I would call that fast. The only other guy on his team is a hacker. Once the main guy is done image editing, the actual translation should go a lot faster.

Oh, he also managed to get two Rance-related image songs translated on the side. Look for his youtube channel if you want to see them.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:50:53 2012 No.9110733

>>9110471
I find it funny that the translation is so direct, you can actually guess the original japanese phrase.
Probably something along the lines of "Datte-- suki nanda".
On the other hand, I could be actually pretty off, which would make me look like an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:52:37 2012 No.9110736 >>9110729 >image editing >taking two weeks Has this guy never touched Photoshop before?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:53:52 2012 No.9110741 File: 107 KB, 480x272, 1333897272173.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Waiting for a translation to go wrong at the last second and the project to collapse Why does this always happen

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 04:58:53 2012 No.9110756

>>9110736

Gameplay VNs have a ton of images don't they? That includes buttons, the names on the interface itself, and stuff like that.

Besides, he's multitasking, he translated the all of the names, the attack prompts, the battle quotes, the items, their descriptions, and so on. Assuming that the 688 said was finished is already edited, I would still call that fast.

Insem is technically a lot faster, but we know his quality. Ixrec has a team team behind him.

Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!FBeUS42x4uM Sun Jun 3 04:59:37 2012 No.9110759
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>>9110678
I don't see any particular problem. Besides, it's outside of my responsibility; I'm only here to announce progress like everyone else.

>>9110733
The original: それは――好きだから。

P.S. See post 9090264 if you want to translate some more VNs, we might put up some other projects in the future too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:00:07 2012 No.9110764 >>9110759 One line is grammatically correct there, Cudder. One. That line is three words long.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:00:23 2012 No.9110761 >>9110709 He did that in the span of 5 days.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:00:52 2012 No.9110763 >>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 80.5% translated, third partial patch out Soon...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:04:37 2012 No.9110769 >>9110763 You have a strange definition of soon.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:05:38 2012 No.9110773

>>9110756
I'm well aware of how many images gameplay VNs have, and trust me, it's not that much work if you have any idea what you're doing. Clean away text, paste in new word. And all those buttons you can just copy/paste once you have one clean one. It's not skilled work, just tedious, but it's hardly time intensive unless you're doing something very very wrong.

>>9110761
That's still pretty fucking slow.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:06:08 2012 No.9110776 >>9110764 The line above that is grammatically correct too.

Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!FBeUS42x4uM Sun Jun 3 05:07:07 2012 No.9110779

>>9110764
I used to be a "grammar nazi" like you, but then I realised. Languages are for communication. If it gets the point across, then that is an accomplished goal. No point in trying to find fault in anything beyond that.

[I'm not a native English user either, so if you're going to say it's wrong you should at least say WHY. But as I said above, even if you do, no one should care anyway, so...]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:07:53 2012 No.9110778 >>9110776 >As it is, you'll catch a cold. No, no it is not.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:09:22 2012 No.9110781 >>9110778 Yes it is. It might not flow well with the previous sentence, but on its own, there's no problem with it.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:11:53 2012 No.9110786

>>9110763
Nope, not soon. The guys confirmed that 20% or so of that was some retarded cunt, machine translating shit which actually slowed down progress as they have to find the machine stuff, remove it and retranslate it.

>Higanbana no Saku Yoru Ni - Released
Nice, that was actually quite fast.

>Rose Guns Days‬ - Will be translated by Witch Hunt with the blessings of 07th Expansion.
Oh boy, time to wrap up those "meanwhile at Witch-Hunt" pics again. At least they're doing a very quality job.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:12:53 2012 No.9110791 >>9110781 It's a broken prepositional phrase pointing to nothing.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:13:53 2012 No.9110795

>>9110779
Grammar is used to guide the process of communication. Without proper grammar, it takes a while to comprehend what a person is saying. Minor mistakes don't matter, but when they pile up, they're downright annoying.

>>9110778
Technically that is grammatically correct, just really stupid and awkward sounding.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:14:52 2012 No.9110798 >>9110791 Since when context is 100% necessary? It points to nothing, but you know damn well it meant the current situation.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:20:08 2012 No.9110806

>>9110798
>It points to nothing
There you have it.

>>9110779
I doubt that. If you actually thought that, you'd be communicating at the minimal possible, instead, it is important to you that you appear intelligent and respected, and thus you communicate as if you were so. Why do you not want your projects to be seen as intelligent and respected?

>>	Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!FBeUS42x4uM Sun Jun 3 05:20:38 2012 No.9110807 >>9110781 >>9110795 >>9110798 The worst issue I have with that line is that it propagates the myth that being cold means catching a cold.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:21:40 2012 No.9110812 >>9110806 As it is, you are wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:26:37 2012 No.9110816 >>9110812 As it's, you'd have to call this correct too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:27:22 2012 No.9110817 >>9110807 >As it is That transitional phrase just sounds awkward. The word "it" doesn't refer to anything in the immediate context. Furthermore, most people don't start a sentence with the word "As" anyways. "While" would be much better word choice.

>>	Y10NRDY !kxh.1oTAkU Sun Jun 3 05:28:08 2012 No.9110819 >>9110173 Anything that actually finishes is a reasonable time frame.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:31:07 2012 No.9110824 >>9110817 *based on the context

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:31:07 2012 No.9110825
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>>9110779
Creative writing is not "communication", Cudder. It's art.

Pic related. It is an illustration of what you're doing. Both images are just as good, right? They both get the point across.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:32:38 2012 No.9110828 >>9110817 As long as you're actually creating a functional prepositional phrase, starting a sentence with 'as' is fine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:33:39 2012 No.9110831 >>9110825 Except in this case, you might want to color her hair green and give her a mop to account for his machine translation mistakes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:36:59 2012 No.9110843 >>9110831 You need to shop that image yourself or you won't get a laugh out of me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:37:10 2012 No.9110844 >>9109340 >mostly No, just because it was unverified and hence not included in the latest partial, does not mean it was machine translated, it just means they hadn't put it through a TLC pass.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:41:37 2012 No.9110855 File: 2.64 MB, 320x240, 1327790425325.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9109096 >>Sumaga- expected to be fully translated this year Fucking JAST.

Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!FBeUS42x4uM Sun Jun 3 05:45:51 2012 No.9110863

I put the 4 lines there in a grammar checker.

It picked up on the name suffixes (not surprising) and gave a warning on the 3rd line: "this is acceptable when speaking".

Thus you grammar nazis should explain what's wrong with the other 3.

>>9110817
>The word "it" doesn't refer to anything in the immediate context.
According to http://www.wordreference.com/definition/as%20it%20is it means "in the existing circumstances" which is exactly what I would've expected.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:47:51 2012 No.9110868 >>9110863 >I put the 4 lines there in a grammar checker. Ahahahahahahahahahaha

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:48:48 2012 No.9110870 >>9110863 Oh, Cudder.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 05:53:49 2012 No.9110881

>>9110863
Please respond to my art, Cud-tan. >>9110825

It's the first OC I've posted on /jp/, so I want your feedback. Do you like it? I'm not an artist and I have no skills, so that means people should be perfectly happy with it as a substitute for the picture on the right, by your logic. So, what do you think? It's good, right?

>>	Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!FBeUS42x4uM Sun Jun 3 05:54:49 2012 No.9110884 >>9110868 What. I've read that they tend to have tons of false positives and accept only the simplest of sentences.

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 06:00:21 2012 No.9110897

>>9110884
Uh huh. Here's two that found no grammatical problems with:
For bacon why is the only very truth?
http://spellcheckplus.com/
http://www.gingersoftware.com/grammarcheck/

Now let's see yours, big boy.

But I'm sure the obvious errors that we're all seeing are just figments of our overactive imagination. Didn't you say you used to be a grammar nazi? Shouldn't YOU be able to spot the errors?

Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!FBeUS42x4uM Sun Jun 3 06:03:21 2012 No.9110904

>>9110806
See the last line of >>9110636. Also we're just providing services, and frankly couldn't care less about what language our clients are translating to. It's not something we should even be concerned with.

>>9110881
Cute.

[Also consider the fact that there's a huge population out there who "reads" VNs solely for the visual aspect, so being able to understand what the text says is a bonus for them.]

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 06:05:48 2012 No.9110913

>>9110904
>It's not something we should even be concerned with.

Then why do you keep arguing with people about it if you don't care so much? Could it be that you do care and do want to be seen as respected but don't want to actually put in the effort to be? I think it does.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 06:07:03 2012 No.9110922 >>9110904 >Our translations target those who don't actually want to read them. Well, at least you admit it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 06:16:48 2012 No.9110942 >>9110913 Because Cudder is tsundere

Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!FBeUS42x4uM Sun Jun 3 06:18:33 2012 No.9110945

>>9110897
If they're so fucking "obvious" then why don't you point them out?

Either because they don't exist or you're also not sure what's wrong.

>>9110913
I have a free Sunday afternoon to spend. Besides, it's fun to watch trolls try to prove things wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 06:21:49 2012 No.9110955 >>9110945 >implying you aren't trolling

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 06:29:34 2012 No.9110967 >>9110945 As I said earlier: you're a "attencion whore". If you want troling that badly, please make another tread for that shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 06:35:58 2012 No.9110985 The cuddest thread of the week is finally here!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 06:42:28 2012 No.9111007 Prince Maker 2 Braveness http://princemakerproject.wordpress.com/2012/05/30/it-is-here-translated-prince-maker-braveness-down load/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 07:55:07 2012 No.9111205 bump

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 08:04:50 2012 No.9111236
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>>9111007

God dammit I played that game. Didn't beat it since the Adventure mode is ass but its pretty homo. Raised my son,encourage him to get friendly with the ladies whenever I can. Be an awesome Brother/Dad or whatever,buy him a suit,keep him fed well etc.

Next thing I know he has Abnormal in his Mental State and says that neither of us have had much luck with Women so we should hook up instead.

...Where did I go wrong with that boy?

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 09:20:04 2012 No.9111504

Player X Child has the highest priority of all the romances.

Heres a guide for the relationships: http://roses-to-vials.blogspot.sg/2012/01/prince-maker-2-relationship-guide_12.html

Heres a guide for the endings: http://princemakerproject.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/career-trigger-ending-stats/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 10:42:05 2012 No.9111724 Jesus fucking christ, Cudder always manages to shit up the thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 11:17:42 2012 No.9111836 >>9111504 >Player X Child has the highest priority of all the romances. What a shitty way to work Freud into the game. Its not like I was sucking his penis every night.

Ludo-Rathowm !!08zlMHpJjEt Sun Jun 3 13:24:31 2012 No.9112356
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I'm the Rance VI guy, and just to clear up any confusion, my current progress is 1209/104155 lines translated after about 5 days of working on the script.
So far that's about 1% done.
Fortunately I'm out of work for several months so I have plenty of time to buckle down and work on it at a steady rate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 13:25:01 2012 No.9112362 >>9112356 Go for it man! Don't give up!

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 13:51:00 2012 No.9112475

>>9110719
>For a week's worth of work? Hell no. The quick translators do four times that in a week. Doing the math, that puts completion at 2015.

Depends on how long the lines are. It's not rare for that many lines to come out to like 60-70 KB, which would actually put him at about 50% Ixrec speed, which is not bad at all.

It's also possible that a lot of them are gameplay strings, making them really short and coming out to only 20 KB or something. Which would make it pretty slow.

Point is, you can't really tell with lines.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 13:54:07 2012 No.9112484 >>9112356 Amazing job

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 14:01:48 2012 No.9112510

>>9110786
>The guys confirmed that 20% or so of that was some retarded cunt, machine translating shit which actually slowed down progress as they have to find the machine stuff, remove it and retranslate it.

Wild claims and theories as to why something's moving too slow being stated as facts... this threads never ceases to amaze me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 14:02:22 2012 No.9112512 >>9112510 Well, they confirmed that some was anonymous machine translation anyway. As to where the "20%" figure came from, I haven't the foggiest.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 14:15:48 2012 No.9112553 >>9112475 ...Dude, we know exactly how long the lines are. For both of them. Stop being retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 15:33:42 2012 No.9112957 >Rewrite - 37753.15/101220 (37.3%) lines translated common route patch next week?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 15:37:35 2012 No.9112994 >>9112957 If Ixrec's editors get around to it, probably.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 15:46:28 2012 No.9113036 >>9112553 What the fuck are you talking about? 'Both' of what? And where is this information you're talking about because the translator doesn't seem to have released that information and he'd be the only one with knowledge of what exactly he translated

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 15:59:43 2012 No.9113145 >>9112994 I wish his hackers would put some effort into FVR patches for Inganock and Sharn.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 16:57:59 2012 No.9113440 >>9113145 Me too, but it seems like the only person in Amaterasu with motivation is Ixrec.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 17:29:21 2012 No.9113630 >>9113440 Isn't Sheeta editing both Rewrite and Air right now?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 18:48:55 2012 No.9114041 >>9112994 Amaterasu's editors are some of the more efficient ones on the translation scene. From what I read a while back, they tend to keep just a bit behind him as he translates. Unless they're not as on the ball anymore or something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 18:49:54 2012 No.9114047 >>9113630 She's doing Rewrite, Air, and Ixrec.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 21:39:24 2012 No.9115098 Didn't Strato say he would have his translation of Baldr Sky Dive1 ready by the end of this summer?

Anonymous Sun Jun 3 22:12:40 2012 No.9115236

>>9115098
No, Strato never said anything publicly about his work on it, outside of initially looking for a hacker, only a couple individuals who confirmed his progress early on, and then lack of progress later, ever talked to him about it and made the information publicly known.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 22:15:39 2012 No.9115250 >>9115098 Dive 1 was out last summer

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 22:21:10 2012 No.9115282 If that's true then what VN Fuutsu translate? Baldr 1 or 2?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 22:23:09 2012 No.9115288 >>9115282 Baldr Bullet

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 3 22:56:48 2012 No.9115425 >>9115250 So was Dive 2. Just not in English.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 07:06:01 2012 No.9116993 this place needs a per tripfag wordfilter to change cudder's "we" into "i" and "client" into something that's not so pretentious-faggot-who-tries-to-look-cool-on-the-internet sounding. or just to autodelete his shitposts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 10:29:35 2012 No.9117442 age

Anonymous Mon Jun 4 14:23:35 2012 No.9118004

I'm waiting on the Little Busters EX/ME patch and I have a question /jp/!

How much is there left to translate after
>Sasami route 66.83% (4472/6691) translated
is finished? After that is done, will I have to wait for another route / hundreds of lines for the previous routes, or what's up with that?

I'm quoting the OP
Thanks in advance, /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 14:58:52 2012 No.9118091 >>9118004 I could swear extraofficially Sasami's is done and they've started with Kanata.

Anonymous Mon Jun 4 15:01:17 2012 No.9118105

>>9118091
That is very nice to know, and I really appreciate the information, but it doesn't really answer my question.

I wikipedia/googled the question and there's apparently five extra routes in the EX/ME? That would mean there are four more completion bars to hit, right? What about the regular game, does that have additional content that needs considerable revising?

Anonymous Mon Jun 4 15:03:33 2012 No.9118111

>>9118105
There's three new routes for EX/ME.
Kanata is like 1500-2000 lines longer than Sasami's and saya's is basically refrain-length, maybe a bit shorter.
Then I think there's addictional lines for all the routes, like sex scenes, and Kud's route got some significant upgades if I'm not wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 15:08:47 2012 No.9118131 >>9118111 All right, thanks for the information. That was exactly what I was looking for <3.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 15:26:00 2012 No.9118179 >>9118105 The translator tweeted something a while back that indicated he was going to do the new common route stuff before continuing with the extra routes. Whether or not he already did that, I don't know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 22:19:29 2012 No.9119903 Probably a bit of progress on TLWiki projects was lost >Database corruption hit at full force earlier today. Restored from a June 1 backup; sorry for the trouble! --TinFoil 22:04, 4 June 2012 (EDT)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 22:22:27 2012 No.9119912 >>9119903 What? I translated like 4,000 lines since then. FUCK!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 22:25:00 2012 No.9119927 do people really translate stuff on someone else's server without keeping any backups

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 22:27:45 2012 No.9119932 >>9119927 I assumed the server was safer than any backups I could keep.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 22:28:31 2012 No.9119935 >>9119912 that fucking sucks. what game?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 22:36:49 2012 No.9119968 >>9119903 Odd. My contribution this afternoon was safe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 22:50:26 2012 No.9120028 >>9119903 Meh, how much could have been lot is 3 days.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 22:54:12 2012 No.9120042 >>9119932 that makes no sense. server+backup is always more secure than just server, if you value your work never keep it only in one place

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 23:01:28 2012 No.9120066 Amaterasu editors are also at work on Mahoyo, just saying. Lots on their hands. How much of Grisaia common route is of the whole script?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 23:04:27 2012 No.9120078 >>9120066 >How much of Grisaia common route is of the whole script? Based on what the translator said last week, a bit over 20%.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 23:05:27 2012 No.9120084 >>9119912 >3 days >4,000 lines I know you're just fucking around, but you could at least try to keep it in a realistic range. I'd be more concerned about how all of Baldr Sky's progress has now been erased from the site.

>>	≦(￣^￣)≧ !!x+mnmrU0sW+ Mon Jun 4 23:10:12 2012 No.9120100 >>9120084 That's more than possible, for the record. It's just that no one is going to put in twelve hour days day after day when they're getting paid in e-peen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 23:11:28 2012 No.9120107 >>9120100 So how's the progress on Subahibi?

>>	≦(￣^￣)≧ !!x+mnmrU0sW+ Mon Jun 4 23:12:57 2012 No.9120114 >>9120107 Rabbit Hole I and II done. 25% total lines.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 23:13:41 2012 No.9120120 so whatever happened to gckc? I heard he got banned out of #tlwiki after he bitched at having his project stolen from him. Been hoping for him to leak his translation so we could stop fucking waiting for something that will never happen

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 23:15:11 2012 No.9120131 >>9120114 Joke? I thought that all previous announces about Subahibi were fake.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 23:15:26 2012 No.9120128 >>9120120 Who?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 23:19:11 2012 No.9120146 >>9120131 He might be joking. But then again, all we know is that someone is 'secretly' working on the project. I'm expecting a July release, for obvious reasons. In before massive disappointment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 23:21:41 2012 No.9120155 >>9120146 A July 12th release would be awesome, but that would be practically impossible even if this "project" is real and even if this >>9120114 is correct.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 23:24:12 2012 No.9120165 I'm going to laugh if Subahibi is Moogy's project for JAST.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 23:49:56 2012 No.9120287 >>9120100 Yeah, I know someone who did 3000 lines in 3 days. Then he dropped the project not too long afterwards(even though he was on the last chapter) A good lesson in pacing yourself so you don't burn out

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 23:51:26 2012 No.9120297 >>9120165 >Moogy-heika-dono-sama >Actually translating something

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 23:55:27 2012 No.9120322 >>9120297 Well, he claims to be translating something. Probably Trample on Schatten.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 4 23:55:42 2012 No.9120324 >>9120165 He added the script size for Schatten lately even though I don't think there are any programs that can get the script cleanly. I think that kind of makes it obvious what he's doing for JAST

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 5 00:58:27 2012 No.9120623 >>9120297 Moogy-dono said he would translate Caren scenes for FHA :_;

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 5 02:40:56 2012 No.9121215 >June 4, 2012: Cure Day 2, Part 2 Final Translation finished. Sadly, Cure Days 6, 1 1/2, and 1 2/2 were not backed up prior to the crash, and thus will have to be re-retranslated from scratch.

Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!FBeUS42x4uM Tue Jun 5 06:54:49 2012 No.9121922

>>9116993
See >>9038930, I've said this about half a dozen times already.

>>9119903
>>9119912
>>9119927
>>9121215
This is what happens when you don't have a SLA. Then again, don't expect too much from a free service and "data that is not backed up is data you don't want to keep."

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 5 07:42:51 2012 No.9122036 File: 488 KB, 1280x960, supermoogy9990jy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm going to post a picture of Moogy every time you mention him.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 5 08:10:20 2012 No.9122119 >>9120078 that's a really short common route, isn't it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 5 08:12:04 2012 No.9122124 >>9122119 Grisaia common route and short should never go in the same sentence.

Anonymous Tue Jun 5 08:40:19 2012 No.9122188

>>9122119
Not necessarily. Not sure how many routes the game has, but assuming it's something like 5 routes it sounds about right. Personally I think that a common route that dwarfs the size of the individual routes just makes those routes feel short and insubstantial in comparison. And when it gets to the point that you've read half the game's text before you've even seen a single route it's just kind of retarded.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 5 08:41:05 2012 No.9122191 >>9122119 >>9122188 You don't have to worry, both the common and the individual routes of Grisaia are really long

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 5 14:50:15 2012 No.9123617 >Seinarukana- picked up, ~38% translated Ahaha~

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 5 19:25:15 2012 No.9124865 bump

>>	Strato !!+hnDdse66Pg Tue Jun 5 19:31:14 2012 No.9124886 >>9115098 I did, for what it's worth.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 5 19:34:15 2012 No.9124901 >>9119903 ...huh, for some reason, I was sure last June 1 had been about 8 months ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 5 20:21:00 2012 No.9125177 Anything good since Yuno and little busters?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 5 20:26:15 2012 No.9125194 >>9125177 Forest. Hoshimemo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 5 20:27:45 2012 No.9125205 >>9125177 The second most acclaimed VN released in 2011 isn't enough for you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 5 20:38:46 2012 No.9125263 >>9125205 What is it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 5 22:50:16 2012 No.9125912 Y U NO PATCH FOR FVR OF SHARNOTH AND SEKIEN?!?!?!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 6 03:27:42 2012 No.9127009 Togainu No Chi is 100% translated now according to Aarinfantasy. Final patch is scheduled for release in 3-4 weeks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 6 09:32:15 2012 No.9128281 >>9110457 and here we go, shitposting again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 6 09:34:31 2012 No.9128286 >>9110520 No one wants your garbage opinion, that anon is cool.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 6 09:38:16 2012 No.9128299 >>9110565 where's no one to look down upon, you are the bottom.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 6 09:39:15 2012 No.9128304 >>9122036 I heard that that's not actually moogy. Has anyone asked him to confirm?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 6 09:40:00 2012 No.9128307 >>9110759 please don't, you already ruined enough VNs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 6 09:41:00 2012 No.9128312 >>9110779 cute

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 6 09:44:15 2012 No.9128320 >>9110807 you are a retard, cuder.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 6 09:47:30 2012 No.9128329 >>9125205 kamidori? hoshimemo?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 6 09:48:16 2012 No.9128331 >>9110904 shitposting again

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 6 09:48:30 2012 No.9128332 Someone keep VN translations/anything to do with editing/writing out of Cudder's hands. Cudder should stick to programming and technical shit and have nothing to do with text, absolutely nothing, not even talking about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 6 09:49:00 2012 No.9128336 >>9110945 prove yourself wrong? Hmm

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 6 09:55:45 2012 No.9128353 >>9128304 it is moogy-dono lel XD

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 6 18:15:21 2012 No.9130165 >>9128332 Not talking about it would be good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 6 21:22:48 2012 No.9131163 >>9122119 Grisaia common route is very close to 1 mb on the nose. For comparison, all of Kara no Shoujo is 1.01 mb

Anonymous Wed Jun 6 23:54:51 2012 No.9131900

Instead of all learning Japanese and translating VNs one at a time, why don't we all learn programming and make a machine translator that is perfect and can do it for us? I guess one person can need to know Japanese to calibrate it but Ixrec can do that for us.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 6 23:57:21 2012 No.9131909 >>9131900 Because like in every language, there are idioms that can't be translated directly into English. Same goes in reverse.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 00:02:21 2012 No.9131927 >>9131900 Doesn't work that way, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 00:02:58 2012 No.9131929 >>9131900 I am skeptical about English ever being translated straight into Japanese, or vice versa. As a language pairing they just don't match up very well. I think it'll be post Turing test robotics that does it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 01:05:24 2012 No.9132121 >>9131900 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic-prominent_language

Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!FBeUS42x4uM Thu Jun 7 06:02:24 2012 No.9133322

>>9128281
>>9128286
>>9128299
>>9128304
>>9128307
>>9128312
>>9128320
>>9128331
It's amusing how you don't have anything better to bump this thread with. U MAD? Or should I say, are your jimmies rustling?

>>9128332
If you want censorship of things you don't like, why are you using this site that promotes free speech?

>>9131900
>>9131909
>>9131927
>>9131929
>>9132121
Nothing is perfect but the state-of-the-art today is getting there. The dilemma here appears to be general systems won't give good results for VNs, but the ones with the appropriate domain knowledge are unfortunately horribly opposed to it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 06:14:25 2012 No.9133353 >>9133322 >U MAD? Or should I say, are your jimmies rustling? What the fuck, dude.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 06:22:08 2012 No.9133386 >>9133353 Just ignore it and hope it goes away.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 07:30:56 2012 No.9133604

>>9133322
It's not so much opposition to the idea as skepticism that it will happen any time soon, considering the immense complexity of the task involved. Though I guess of the people who are currently moonreaders (and consequently could contribute most to such a project) might object on the grounds that they put in their time already, and don't like the idea that someone could get similar results without doing so.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 07:32:55 2012 No.9133611 >>9133353 >locking in on one phrase and responding to it alone rather than the post as a whole People like you are everything wrong with this site these days. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 14:05:11 2012 No.9134792

Apparently, someone's trying to translate Hoshimemo fandisk. Are there any tools publicly available for reinserting the script? TLWiki doesn't seem to have them and I doubt that Insemination will share what he has.
http://forums.novelnews.net/showthread.php?p=70238#post70238

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:23:29 2012 No.9136497 [DELETED]

At the urging of fans and after careful consideration by the > Baka-Tsuki Translation Team led by Polarem, it has been agreed upon that the completion of the CLANNAD Visual Novel English Translation Project, including all remaining translations, editing work, and associated checks, will henceforth be entrusted to Doki’s Visual Novel Division.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:24:44 2012 No.9136500

> At the urging of fans and after careful consideration by the Baka-Tsuki Translation Team led by Polarem, it has been agreed upon that the completion of the CLANNAD Visual Novel English Translation Project, including all remaining translations, editing work, and associated checks, will henceforth be entrusted to Doki’s Visual Novel Division.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:35:44 2012 No.9136552 >>9136497 >At the urging of fans Pretty shitty fans. Are they somehow not aware of how low Doki grades in fansub comparison reviews?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:42:13 2012 No.9136582 >>9136552 I can't imagine they could be much worse than Baka-Tsuki.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:46:59 2012 No.9136604 >>9136582 That's not saying much.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:52:14 2012 No.9136616 >>9136582 Be prepared for a surprise.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:55:29 2012 No.9136627 >>9136500 Yeah, I read that a few minutes ago. Honestly, I am a bit excited.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:08:29 2012 No.9136660

>>9133604
People have already shown, repeatedly might I add, that machine translations cannot work because Japanese is a highly contextual language that does not explicitly state the subjects of its sentences. Sentences cannot be translated accurately in isolation. It is not just a matter of finding a one to one correspondence between words. All machine translations can do when subjects aren't explicitly stated, which is constantly, is guess what the subjects are based on the most common usage in their domain, which is obviously going to fuck up most of the time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:22:08 2012 No.9136720 >>9136660 Not that guy, but why wouldn't it be eventually feasible to consider the text as a whole rather than on a line-by-line basis? It seems obvious to me that natural language processing will eventually be able to compete with humans.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:05:08 2012 No.9136856

>>9133322
>If you want censorship of things you don't like, why are you using this site that promotes free speech?
>free speech
nice joke.

the site's been censored and policed for years. if it was really "free speech" as you suggest, we wouldn't need to have mods or janitors, and /l/ would still be around.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:07:22 2012 No.9136864 >>9136720 It would help, but even so, you'd need some pretty strong AI for Japanese->English. I wouldn't expect it within 50 years. If you learn Japanese and try doing some translating yourself, you'll understand why.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:11:26 2012 No.9136884

>>9136720
>>9136864
Even if you could create a system capable translating literary Japanese, dialogue-heavy VNs depend on actually being able to see and interpret character interactions on screen to clarify much of the meaning, so until we have an AI capable of interpreting the entire script, including the animations and transitions, and the art, we won't have decent machine translations for VNs.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:23:03 2012 No.9136925

>>9136884
Also very true. Also, translating VNs requires understanding themes and reading between the lines, along with a healthy dose of creativity because the languages simply do not match up very well. So now your translator bot has to be able to think artistically. Easy enough for a competent human translator, but we're a long, long way off from being able to do it with software.

Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!FBeUS42x4uM Fri Jun 8 06:47:54 2012 No.9138899

>>9133604
I'm not saying it's simple, but given how unpredictable the future has been, I wouldn't give up hope.

>>9136660
Take a look at the grammars of some languages like Perl and C++. They are also context-dependent, but they can be successfully parsed --- albeit with some additional complexity over context-free languages --- by simply keeping state.

It's not too difficult to imagine an implementation of that for implicit subjects, as the state involved is only that; the subject. If there's none, put in a place holder temporarily in output, and let the operator enter one. If a sentence has a subject, keep track of it and use it until the next time it's changed. Even more conveniently, have it as an MRU list so the operator can choose the appropriate one.

>>9136856
Only to the extent of US law, which is unavoidable here.

>>9136884
>>9136925
While the ultimate goal may be completely automated translation, for now I think it's better to focus on translation *assistance*. There's nothing, except that goal, to say a system can't produce multiple possible translations and let the user pick (and maybe edit slightly) the one that is the best fit. Anything to reduce the tedium of writing.

RWI already streamlines entering text to nothing more than typing the desired translation and pressing one key to move to the next line. Having it let you choose from a list of candidate translations (e.g. press 0-9 to pick one, then edit if needed or just move to the next line) would be the next big leap.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 07:09:53 2012 No.9138946

>>9138899
You sir are an idiot. How exactly are perl and C context dependent? The only ignorant rather than pants on head retarded logic i can think of for you saying this is not understanding that the userspace(how the IDE displays variables etc.) is separate from what the computer sees(thats the whole point of the compiler). They are purely objective in the strictest sense of the word.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 07:21:00 2012 No.9138969 >>9138899 You are so vastly oversimplifying the problem that I can only imagine it's because you haven't studied Japanese at all. If you had, you would know how retarded you sound right now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 08:00:23 2012 No.9139058 Hey Cudder, I want to translate Dies Irae. Can you hack it for me?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 08:05:08 2012 No.9139064 My first time on /jp/ in months and the first thread I see involves the same old Cudder shenanigans. Never change, guys.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 08:21:54 2012 No.9139097 I think it's funny how Cudder used to be a respected member of the community, and now he's fallen to this level...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 08:58:44 2012 No.9139201 >>9139097 >Cudder used to be a respected member of the community He/She/It never was. Not on /jp/, not on /prog/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 08:59:38 2012 No.9139206 >>9139201 I think he was.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 09:01:08 2012 No.9139215 >>9139201 On /jp/ he was, a lot. unless you weren't here. hes changed a lot though.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 09:05:39 2012 No.9139232

>>9139215
He was always the same clown as today. Nothing he said made any sense.
The only thing he was good at was hacking. Now, if only he could just reverse-engineer games and provide tools, without bringing in his crazy bullshit, that would change greatly his image.

In before >He

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 09:07:23 2012 No.9139242 >>9139232 But he is providing a standards-based service. The standards, man! You've got to uphold the standards!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 09:07:39 2012 No.9139244 I rarely visit /jp/, but Cudder always carried a bad reputation on /prog/. REchan, Anonix...he even stole my favourite tripcode user's tripcode!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 09:09:10 2012 No.9139253 >>9139249 Oh, and the Editorashi thing caused some drama too I guess.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 09:09:38 2012 No.9139249

>>9139232
Nobody cared much about the crazy bullshit for a while though because it wasn't really hurting anything, and he used his hacking ability to help us out from time to time. Really I never saw anyone with much bad to say about him until the whole Flyable Heart debacle started.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 15:04:25 2012 No.9140621 >>9139058 This guy is trying to troll you Cudder, don't listen to him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:09:55 2012 No.9141781 age

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 22:36:13 2012 No.9142566 Rewrite common route patch released.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 22:42:55 2012 No.9142581 >>9142566 Mon Dieu, it's true!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 23:09:56 2012 No.9142703 Why is Baldr Sky's progress all 0s on Amaterasu's site?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 00:38:29 2012 No.9143175 >>9142703 Database problem. Ixrec said they'll get around to fixing it eventually.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 02:50:49 2012 No.9143708 >>9143175 Ah, thanks.

Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!FBeUS42x4uM Sat Jun 9 06:21:28 2012 No.9144300

>>9138946
Starting with ad hominem, then a statement that is completely off the mark (and I was talking about C++, not C) --- anyone who did a quick Google would see that --- and finishing with another statement not unlike the second but even more obscure?

>>9138969
The whole process of architecting something starts with a simple idea. Then you expand on it. But of course you and the one above just have to throw an insult in there. That's an indication that you're not really arguing the main point at all. >>9133604's second sentence is a good explanation for this.

Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!FBeUS42x4uM Sat Jun 9 06:49:44 2012 No.9144411

>>9139232
If 200 years ago you told someone that we would eventually visit the moon wouldn't they think you're crazy too? Go back far enough and all the things we take for granted now would've been considered nothing more than fanciful imagination.

>>9139244
This may surprise you, but that was me.

>>9140621
I don't let one user's alleged facts override anyone else's. If that poster wants to have it done, he should know the process.

>it's because you haven't studied Japanese at all
I've poked at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_grammar a little, maybe now would be a good time to look at it more closely...

Lexing is going to be the first hard part. Just like in any other language that's below level 2, it'll require feedback from the parser.

If there's ambiguity, translate all the ways to parse the sentence. User input can be fed back into the front end to adjust the relative preferences.

Lexing verbs requires coordination between the lexer, parser, and dictionary. A large accurate dictionary is very important.

Anyway, just throwing out some more ideas on the front-end for the time being.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 07:07:04 2012 No.9144504 >>9144411 You had best do more than just read a Wikipedia article. You need to be familiar with how the language is actually used in practice. Learn Japanese, actually try translating something, and then we can have this discussion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 11:53:00 2012 No.9145511 Hey Cudder

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 11:58:30 2012 No.9145522 >Cudder >ad hominem ad hominem ad homimen I'm a CEO ad hominem localiz(s)ation technology ad hominem synergizing translation community ad hominem ad hominem I'm a CEO ad hominem OEM ad hominem

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 12:03:00 2012 No.9145536 >>9145522 Don't bully cudder

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 15:33:24 2012 No.9146377 >>9145522 You missed one or two "standards" there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 19:26:09 2012 No.9147466 >>9118111 > Kud's route got some significant upgades if I'm not wrong. Upgrades like what?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 19:33:25 2012 No.9147505 >>9144411 >If there's ambiguity, translate all the ways to parse the sentence So you're saying include every single noun, pronoun, and proper name because it could be any of them. Okay. Good plan. Let me know how that works out for you.

Anonymous Sat Jun 9 20:06:06 2012 No.9147660
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>>9109691
I've never been able to get the opening movie for this to play with the patch applied (in Vista), and there doesn't seem to be a page for the project where I could take the problem. Anyone know a way around that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 20:39:14 2012 No.9147781 >All those sono hanabiras getting translated So good.

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