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9081322 No.9081322[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

What's your opinion on AMX 13?

Singaporeans still use them.

>> No.9081330

fuck off la

>> No.9081360

When i use them: shit

When someone else uses them: they fuck me sideways

For some reason i always run into 2 heavies even if i try my best to go for an alternative route or sneak past a bunch of tanks duking it out and they either 1 shot me or one tracks me and the other kills me or rams me to death.

now when i'm in a TD i'm always in retard brigade and i'm left alone to deffend a flank, then an AMX comes and ruins my shit. I'll stop trying to be the hero, i've taken enough bullets for teams that always do the same mistakes after 2 years or so.

>> No.9081399
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9081399

>Be in tier 5 tank
>61% Win ratio
>This is pretty good fun, oh it seems i can upgrade my tank now!
>Tier 6 tank get!
>GET RAPED SIDEWAYS EVERY ROUND FOR 50 ROUNDS IN A ROW BECAUSE I CANT DO JACKSHIT TO TIER 8-10 TANKS.
Low tier is suffering.

>> No.9081419

>>9081360
It's a support tank. Let others go first, then check the map and pick up isolated subhuman nooblords.

>> No.9081446

7k repair bills on the 13 90? I should get it and sell my 13 75 then!

>> No.9081472

>>9081446
I was at ~15%

>> No.9081488

>>9081399
And that is why i stopped playing the game myself.
It was rather painful having to grind some 60+ wins to get a weapon big enough to shoot down tanks in its own tier.

And while doing so all you can do is hope and pray that your team can handle the enemy because all you can do is sit there and plink at the enemy with a pebble shooter.

>> No.9081598

>>9081488
Get better. Scouting is important. There are also always targets you can penetrate.

>> No.9081645

>>9081399
Besides this, by the time I got to tier 7 and 8, I was having to grind for both experience AND cash. I have the tier 8 medium Russian tank researched, but I never managed to buy it. Premium might help with the whole experience grind a little, but it'll never give you enough cash to surpass your other tank maintenance's AND make a decent enough profit as to not make you shoot yourself in frustration.

This is to encourage you to buy those absurdly expensive, 50 dollar tanks that make way more money than your actual tanks simply by blowing up.

I used to think it was fun, but the game is just begging for me to pay up or get out. And I did.

>> No.9081649

>>9081598
There is only so much you can scout when your tank has lower vision range than high tier tanks and moves at 30km.
Sure you can always penetrate the enemy artillery or scouts.

But then when your teams top tanks have all died off for stupid reasons and you are basically going up against higher tier tanks you are fucked.

Like anon above, being in a tier 6 fairly slow tank with no gun vs tier 8-10 you are cannonfodder nothing else.
Though you can serve as a annoyance if you make sure to die on a bridge to block it.

>> No.9081650

I got kinda tired of this by the time I got a t4 light tank, Hetzer and Wespe... it started out kind of fun gaining XP and getting new vehicles and upgrades but when the progress became slow I felt it was getting repetitive.

>> No.9081655

>>9081645
It's not actually more fun the higher up you go, is it?

I had the most fun around t2.

>> No.9081660

>>9081645
I have a T-44, 13 90, Su-8, Su-14, and I have no trouble farming for credits.. And in one mil and a half I'll be buying a T-54. Never paid any money to this game btw

>> No.9081674

>>9081655
It might be fun if you're tier 10 or something. I played around with a Maus for a bit on a friend's account and it was pretty good. You survive a pretty insane barrage of shots that get thrown at you before you go down, though you're slow and big. But after a while, it just got boring.

I also remember having the most fun on the lower tiers on my hotchkiss. Those were the times... Too bad you make such a pathetic amount of experience and credits on low-tier fights to make them ever be worth it.

>>9081660
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

>> No.9081716

>>9081674
>Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
You are either an idiot, or you don't know how to play this game.

You make credits in your ~Tier 6 tanks. See the screenshot, see the money a 13 90 can bring you.

>> No.9081732

>>9081716
I don't believe I ever said you were wrong. But you must have played this game for such an unholy amount of time that I doubt you actually find it enjoyable.

But it's okay. You can call me an idiot. We all have an opinion about each other.

>> No.9081736

>lol french teal

But seriously that shit is annoying. Too fast to hit reliably at a distance, big enough gun to punch through my side armor if I try to ignore it and push forward. The autoloader just makes it worse, if I try to go past the 13 and fire, I'm now vulnerable to 6 90mm shots. If I don't press forward, a light tank has stopped me from advancing and I'm potentially arty food.

Having shit backups sucks.

>> No.9081761

>>9081645
>Premium might help with the whole experience grind a little, but it'll never give you enough cash to surpass your other tank maintenance's AND make a decent enough profit as to not make you shoot yourself in frustration.

Yes it will unless you suck. You can break even up to tier 8 or 9 depending on your skill level. 50% extra credits suddenly turns breaking even on a 20-30k repair bill into a 10-15k profit, every game. It makes a difference when they give out free premium days.

>> No.9081784

I have finished the whole french light/medium tree branch and I have to say, AMX 13 75 is one of my favourite tanks. Good mobility and firepower for its tier, and doesn't constantly get chosen for Xt fights. 13 90 was fun too, but too often I had to play role of stationary spoter/scout in some bush because there was nothing I could penetrate up front. Also its +30s reload time was a bother. Sold my lorraine a week ago because 7.2 seriously nerfed its aiming and shell reload time.

>> No.9081803

I haven't started playing yet, but would like to.

What country's tanks are the best to start grinding XP for?

Is there a /jp/ guild?

>> No.9081811

>>9081761
>10-15k profit

That's assuming every game goes your way, which is never the case. Also, by your logic, if by getting 50% extra credits I'll start getting 10-15k profit margins, that means that before, I would be getting 20-30k credits WITHOUT premium, and would be using those for maintenance of my tank, effectively breaking even every single time. And now, WITH premium, I'm getting 40-45k credits and spending 20-30k in maintenance, thus making a 10-15k profit.

Not only you're assuming that every player makes an absurd amount of credits per game, YOU CAN NOT EARN THAT MANY CREDITS PER GAME, with or without premium. Get real and stop tossing insults around.

>> No.9081840

>I would be getting 20-30k credits WITHOUT premium, and would be using those for maintenance of my tank, effectively breaking even every single time. And now, WITH premium, I'm getting 40-45k credits and spending 20-30k in maintenance, thus making a 10-15k profit.

Yes, because that is my average income. A good usually means a 5-15k profit no premium at tier 8/9. A good defeat, or a bad win usually results in breaking even. A bad defeat results in money loss.

>> No.9081856

>>9081840
>a good win
And that is without premium.

The game plays differently at Tier 1-2, 3-6, and 7-10. If those income levels are surprising you, you probably didn't make the right gameplay jump and change in strategy with increases in armor and reload time.

>> No.9081858

>>9081803
If you are interested in top-tier clan battles in the future, american t110e5 heavy tank is currently most sought after. I can vouch for patton medium tank as well (after you grind 80k exp for suspension and gun). other than that, all countries have their merits. German tanks are usually slow, but they have thick armor and accurate guns. Russian tanks pack a punch, but are inaccurate and easier to penetrate. American tanks have good gun depression (you'll learn how usefull it is) but offer medicore armor and guns (except for their top-tiers). French tanks are mostly for support; their armor is weak, but they can deal massive damage quite fast because of their auto-loader mechanism allowing them to fire 4-6 rounds in a small period of time.

>> No.9081871

>>9081803
Germany is the bet, but because Russian devs it is pretty weak right now.

Despite all the griping, the new IS-4 and IS-8 are very strong, but the T110 is really formidable. French tanks are annoying, and rely on good team support.

The E-75 is losing the edge as the best tier 9 because more and more guns have ~260mm pen, making the good armor worth less, and the Maus gun is showing its weakness with these new tanks. The E-100 is just worthless, and the Maus is also losing its armor advantage.

>> No.9081877

>>9081840
>>9081856

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Well, I'm done arguing with you. Keep eluding people and dragging them into this grindfest. Goodbye.

>> No.9081898

>>9081871
IS-8 has a great gun, but its armor is made of butter making it a squishy target for enemies. Its gun depression is also poor. It is bloody fast tho.

>> No.9081917

>>9081858
>German tanks are usually slow, but they have thick armor and accurate guns. Russian tanks pack a punch, but are inaccurate and easier to penetrate.

No way. Not anymore. Head to head, a German vs a Russian tank, the 12.8cm will bounce off of Russian armor forcing you to spend time aiming its 0.38 acc, when the new 122mm gun has the same 0.38 acc, and 268mm pen. The new IS-4 with the fixed weak spots also bounces the 12.8cm fairly often as well. The S-70 has 0.40 acc and a still formidable 260mm pen. The 120mm for the T110 has 269mm pen and 0.35 acc. The French is pretty much the same except minus 2mm pen.

Even if German guns did have more accuracy, I'd trade it for 20mm extra pen so I wouldn't have to sit there aiming. But German guns don't even have better accuracy anymore. And the new high pen guns in the upper 260s make the German armor worth considerably less.

Not to mention both the E-75 and E-100 have big weak spots, and the Maus line has poor armor in general, except for the Maus.

>> No.9081930
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9081930

The AMX 13 90 is by far my favorite tank, of all time. It changes the game, so much. From a game of peekaboo or just a boring old slugfest, to zipping around heavies, unloading my unholy seed into their unsuspecting anuses, then retreating to load up another helping and repeating the process untill I'm either dead or out of ammo...
And you're mortal... So very mortal. It's such a thrill to outpreform almost every other tank in the field, while dodging shells left and right.

Managed to get a legit 2000xp in one round, with six heavy kills, in mine, at one point.

>> No.9081927

>>9081877
Its true, do you even have a 51%+ win ratio (slightly better than average?). If you have a 49% or below, then yes, you might just break even with premium. And it is a given you will lose money as you spend time eliting. And do you at least start off with 75% crews when you first start?

>> No.9081935

>>9081898
Once people figure out how to use it and stop running in headfirst like an IS-4 it will be much stronger. Those dome turrets are penetratable, but they're still bouncy as fuck.

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>>9081877
Why are you getting so mad? I'm not even the same guy.

Here's how an average defeat looks like in a 13 90

>> No.9081960

Singapore a shit

>> No.9081981

>>9081938
Indeed, on an elited tier 7, unless you fucked up and got artied without firing a single shot, you usually at least break even on a loss. Tier 8 makes an average loss lose money, but a good loss still breaks even. In the Tiger II the 8.8 prints some money, even in a loss. The 10.5 means average play (51+% win) results in an average breaking even. The E-75 is just as profitable as the Tiger II with the 10.5cm because the increased repair costs are offset by the shell cost/income ratio of the 12.8cm.

>> No.9082272

>>9081960
a country that uses AMX 13s can't be shit

>> No.9082646

please respond

>> No.9082661

TIer 6 tanks are the punching bags of the game.

>> No.9082697

>>9082661
Tier 6 tanks are the ones that get you the highest credit amount.

>> No.9085828

please respond

>> No.9085831

>>9081330
>la

Oh you.

>> No.9085937

>>9085831
who's la?

>> No.9085957

>>9085937
fuck you la

>> No.9085981

>>9085957
who's la?

>> No.9086819
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9086819

the fuck is that

>> No.9087184
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9087184

Typical AMX game

>> No.9087212

Is this entire thread chinkapork amx drivers? Or does /jp/ still play this game? I still play, but just by myself in pub games.

>> No.9087444

>>9087212
I'm plyaing alone in pickup. Somebody told they saw some jpers in the /jp/ channel.

>> No.9087487

Southeast Asia a shit

>> No.9087500

>>9087487
>Southeast Asia a shit
South east asia was cool when Japan and America were fighting for it.

>> No.9090497

How's the credit earning rate for high tier (7+) arty? Right now, T5 arty seems to be the most profitable for me, not sure if I should push forward or stay with a Hummel.

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9091147

SU-14 seems decent if you don't waste your overpriced shells.

>> No.9092357
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9092357

Dem oscillating turrets

>> No.9093030
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9093030

Playing stock high tier tanks is suffering.
The only incentive to get high tier tanks are CW and companies, but competitiveness always turns games into work for me.

>> No.9093088

>>9093030
I've been runing my maus stock all this time, you're full of shit.

But yeah, you're not suposed to play MMO with strangers, but with a group of online friend that you've been playing with for 5+ years on several different mmo.

Until they all fucking get a job one by one or stop playing. Assholes.

>> No.9093097

>>9093088
>maus

you're T10, so you aren't going to be on the lower half of a match.

>> No.9093770

>>9093097
>maus
>not going to be on the lower half
If it wasn't the worst tier 10, sure.

>> No.9096352
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9096352

le worst tier 9

>> No.9096372

>>9087212
I still play it sometimes. I started playing again recently after a long time and found the IS-8 in my garage, and I fucking love it. I loved the IS-3 too, and it's pretty much just an IS-3 with a monster gun.

>> No.9096419

>>9081803

If you're asking about JP clan, ask someone
else. If you're asking if there is Japan Tank Tree,
yes there will be one, but it will be far off in the future. As for country to grind free XP? The one
you're good at or think you'll be good at.

>> No.9096730

>>9081803
Take the USSR tree. The devs are slavs, the balances always favors russian tanks.

>> No.9098482
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9098482

Hey Jean, how come your mom lets you have a turret AND an autoloader?

>> No.9098617

I actually saw someone in PZMOE playing last week. I did a double take, I can't believe there is still an active player in there. He is probably the last one.

>> No.9098627

>>9098617
panzermoe still exists? I'd have joined it had I known any of it survived the server split.

>> No.9098661

>>9098627
Well they never disbanded it, but it's probably as dead as a clan can be. Any pure /jp/ clan is doomed to failure though, too many people with too little mental stability. And if you just run in platoons it's pointless anyway.

I have seen mugen on once in a while too and we platooned, but he is too bad@tanks for it to work out.

>> No.9099191

>>9098661
>And if you just run in platoons it's pointless anyway.
Better than nothing. Unless of course you play with autists like mugen.

>> No.9099213

>>9098482
How does it work exactly by the way? Anyone tried it on the test server?

>> No.9099254

I haven't played since November, I gave up on it while waiting for more tanks to be added and for the T-44 to get the LB-1.

Even back then the only person I ever saw that I recognized was mugen. I never joined panzermoe though because lol drama, once the chat channel died I was alone.

I was thinking about going back to it but already spent enough money on TERA and looking ahead to Mechwarrior Online (which sounds like it's going to have much the same f2p system as WoT).

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>>9098617
i saw a guy in it too! had to take a screenshot of it.

>> No.9099284

>>9099254
It's still nice to do at least the daily bonus, even alone.

>> No.9099920

>>9099191
So you are saying joining an autistic /jp/ clan is better than nothing, followed by a jab at me for playing two games with one? Oh boy.

It's worse than nothing. Unless you do tournaments or clanwars the only thing you get from joining a clan is the tag. Or in the case of PZMOE you got instantly kicked when you failed to answer Afrika's random touhou trivia correctly. I think then it fell apart because of a power struggle, because no one could resist the chance to be at the helm of mighty PZMOE and bask in the light of a glorious low-tier random battle victory. /jp/ strong.

>> No.9101462

>>9099920
It fell apart because it was split in two when the server was split in to the NA and EU servers.

> you got instantly kicked when you failed to answer Afrika's random touhou trivia correctly

He still does that? Or are you making random jabs because you felt offended.

>> No.9102539

test

>> No.9102661

>>9102539
lel did it worked? xd

>> No.9102669 [DELETED] 

>>9102661
Yup, my appeal went through for being banned for entering too many wrong captchas.

>> No.9102678 [DELETED] 

>>9102669
Why are you spamming bro, that's not cool.

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