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>> No.9049414

I would.

>> No.9049418

Fuck you OP

>> No.9049421

>>9049419
Some /jp/sie that wants to suck a small, cute, phimotic penis.

>> No.9049419

>>9049414

Your body would sell at a clearance sale?

Are you sure about that? Who would buy you?

>> No.9049424

what does that even mean

>> No.9049425

>>9049419
I would!
>>9049421
... sure! All penises need love.

>> No.9052711

>>9049421

Don't we all?

>> No.9052716

Stop stabbing me in the heart OP.

>> No.9052734

Ok seriously. Would you still love "Insert your favorite Touhou here/waifu/whatever" but fucked a lot of men in the past, before she met you?

>> No.9052754

>>9052734
No.

>> No.9052756

>>9052734
Nope. She is pure. Unless your favorite Touhou is Sanae.

>> No.9052759

>>9052734
Insinuating that the past matters.

So yes, of course.

>> No.9052762 [DELETED] 

>>9052734
If she even touched a penis before then no, I would not. Better off dead. I sincerely mean that from the bottom of my heart. I would never an unpure girl.

>> No.9052768

>>9052759
People who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

Enjoy getting NTRed like every other previous guy.

>> No.9052774

>>9052734
Only if those men are you and me.

>> No.9052792

You only hate used goods because of a massive inferiority complex towards people with more expierence than you. Admit it, nerds.

>> No.9052797

>>9052768
Hey if it happens, then it happens. Plenty of other touhous in the sea.

>> No.9052798

>>9052792
Well, you'd have something resembling a point, except for the fact that I'm not inferior to anyone.

>> No.9052800

>>9052768
How do you know those guys didnt dump her?

>> No.9052807 [DELETED] 

>>9052792
You only say that because it is you that has an inferiority complex regarding those who remain pure and uncorrupted, so you convince yourself that something humans have been doing since the beginning of time is anything to be proud of.

>> No.9052814

>>9052792
Actually it WOULD BE hypocritical to demand pure waifus when you're not a virgin. Only virgins are allowed to make that demand. And they are absolutely justified. Equality at work, baby.

>>9052807
I think the guy is a virgin himself.

>> No.9052822

I actually find females more attractive if they have some experience.

All I care about is loyalty and kindness.

>> No.9052827

>>9052822
Then you really should be going for virgins. I'm not making this up, you are vastly more likely to find these traits in virgins.

>> No.9052829

>>>/r9k/
>>>/soc/

complete bullshit you'd all still fuck her, bunch of nerds.

>> No.9052832

>>9052827
Well, I am a pedophile so I think the chances are that the girl I would be going after is a virgin but im still not concerned about it.

Dont forget widows.

>> No.9052833

>>9052798
>I'm not inferior to anyone.

The battlecry of people with a massive inferiority complex.

>>9052807

No one is pure. Sexual experience is something quite natural. It happens to everyone.
Except you.

>> No.9052839

>>9052833
This is hilarious, but pathetic. Enjoy being massively inferior to me, and significantly less so but still massively inferior to everyone else, animal.

>>9052832
Wouldn't trust widows. Little girls are good though, lots of potential.

>> No.9052845

not a virgin here, bedded 3 people

was expecting something incredible to happen and I would have an epiphany or something.

but i wake up the next day and i am exactly who i was. having sex and being NOTvirgin seemed so incredibly important and now suddenly i felt duped.

stay virgin, youre missing out on accidental pregnancy, stds and a more realistic onna hole.

>> No.9052848

>>9052839
Ohh please, that chances of a widow offing her husband are 10 million to 1.

>> No.9052855

>>9052848
Because widows don't have husbands, right?

>> No.9052851

>>9052839
>Enjoy being massively inferior to me

It's okay, let everything out. Maybe the pain will wane eventually.

>> No.9052860

>>9052848
I don't have to worry about fighting a loli to the death. And even if I did, not only would it still be incredibly easy, she'd have a much harder time hiding it from me. Also, I'm not attracted to old women, personally.

>>9052851
Nobody cares. Go tell your psychiatrist, animal.

>> No.9052868

>>9052855
Well it is part of the requirements to be a widow.

>> No.9052876

>>9052860
>Nobody cares. Go tell your psychiatrist, animal.

Don't forget, there is still a tomorrow.

Keep reaching for the rainbow.

>> No.9052880

>>9052860
Why would you have to fight a widow to the death and what is this "it" that you are suddenly in fear of being taken.

I think you shoudl see a doctor mate, you are clearly insane.

>> No.9052893

>>9052880
She might try to kill me like she did her husband. She might try to kill me so I can't kill her to take the money she got from her dead husband. There are probably more reasons, but those two really stick out.

Not an ``it'' being taken, mind. I mean if loli plans on killing me, she'll hide it worse than the devious old crow that killed her previous husband(s).

I will do no such thing.

>> No.9052901

>>9052822
>expecting loyalty in women
Not even trolling, but while this depends a lot on who you are, but I just hope you exercise enough caution so that you don't get suckered. I have seen many girls who look so innocent but are actually backstabbing sluts as you hear about their previous boyfriends.

>>9052829
Nope. If I've been living just great, no need to give up my dignity for some vags that you can just find anywhere in red light districts. If I'm going to make a gamble for my happiness, I must first be prepared to lose that gamble. That is, I'm completely prepared to die alone. This allows me to make a big gamble, and also divert my time and attention to other things.

>>9052833
>It happens to everyone
No, you conveniently try to forget that some scientists and mathematicians back in the day didn't even get married. I know it might sound impossible to believe but your projection doesn't apply to everyone, and that not everyone cares about completing their biological mission as a mule carrying genes. They must seem crazy to you, right ?

Just like how a girl reading books instead of playing dolls must seem crazy to an elementary school teacher. Everything seems crazy to people who can't understand variety is the spice of life, and extroverted people are especially guilty of doing this on a daily basis. Now every kid has to be a "team player" and can not read books alone.

>> No.9052933

>>9052901

Of course, there are people without a sexual drive. But that doesn't aply to the nerds who want a pure girl because they're clearly interested in sex. Point not taken.

>> No.9052942

>>9052933
If you don't understand the whole ``virgin'' thing I can only conclude you're mentally retarded. Probably physically too.

>> No.9052983

>>9052933
>clearly interested in sex
Which isn't the whole picture. They don't want vags that you can find in a red light district. They want a perfect soulmate and complete devotion, which might or might not be naive. Also do not forget that this is merely entertainment. There are people who wouldn't care about dating or getting married because they have priorities (college, career), but can indeed enjoy romantic fiction and porn.

>> No.9052994

So, ITT people who would not buy Kou Hime even at a clearance sale.

/jp/ really is the worst board.

>> No.9053015

What's OPs image from?

>> No.9053017

>>9052942

Your inferiority complex is still showing.

>>9052983
>They don't want vags that you can find in a red light district

Which is perfectly understandable, because neither do I. But that's no excuse for the retarded "if she ever had sex, than she's a slut"-thing which afflicts this board. I hope you agree that there is a difference.

>this is merely entertainment

Are you sure?

>> No.9053027

>>9053015
It's the loli from Sengoku Rance

>> No.9053021

>>9053015
Koihime † Musou ~Doki ☆ Otome Darake no Sangokushi Engi~

>> No.9053025

Did someone copy a thread from /r9k/ or /soc/?
Used goods is disgusting and can only be used as human toilet.

>> No.9053033

>>9053021
How is that?

>> No.9053030

>>9053017
It's escapism entertainment. Just like how marijuana is a recreational drug. Too much and you turn into a pothead.

>> No.9053037

>>9053017
Touching used goods is like drinking out of a cup disgusting old men have filled to the brim with their cum:
No matter how many times it's washed, it will never be the same cup.

Do you really want to kiss the mouth that has been used as a cum depository of other men?

If you can't understand this, normalfag: Fuck off.

>> No.9053053

>>9053037
I dont care. If its a loli I love. Love is stronger than my insecurities.

>> No.9053048 [DELETED] 

>>9053017
If she ever had sex she's a slut in my eyes, that's never going to change. You seem EXTREMELY angry about this for some reason.
The majority of the board shares this sentiment, and in that they are the ones correct, not you. Why are you so frustrated?

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>>9053017
Nobody likes used goods here brah. If you like cumgurgling sluts that's fine with me, but don't get angry we don't like them.

>> No.9053061

>>9053048
>>9053037
Ahh, its a good thing you will be forever alone. I would be sorry for the innocent girl that ended up with you.

>> No.9053065

>>9053033
Good. You pursue Lu Bu and then you fuck her. She doesn't have that huge silly hat the real Lu Bu wore like some sort of crazy headbanner so I don't like her much.

>> No.9053064

>>9053037
>No matter how many times it's washed, it will never be the same cup.
It's the same cup. After it's been properly cleaned a cup you shat in and a cup you didn't are exactly the same.

>> No.9053066

>>9053030

Yeah, I think a lot of people here had too much escapism.

>>9053037
>inferiority complex
>n.
>A persistent sense of inadequacy or a tendency to self-diminishment, sometimes resulting in excessive aggressiveness through overcompensation.

>> No.9053067

If you were the protagonist of an eroge, would you take the heroine in under your protection and companionship even if she's been brutally raped?
If not by men then how about tentacles?

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9053071

>>9053037
>not wanting to love a milf tenderly and tell her she's still beautiful, etc etc

>> No.9053072

>>9053061
We don't care about 3DPD dude.
2D makes us happy. Why are you so butthurt?

>> No.9053077

>>9053072
Because she's used goods.

>> No.9053076

>>9053064
Not if it's plastic.
Plastic never forgets.

>> No.9053078

>>9053072
Because you would do the same thing to a 2D. You are filthy.

>> No.9053090

>>9053076
Does stuff leach into plastic? I wouldn't know, my stuff is ceramic.

>> No.9053093
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9053093

You have some silly arguments, /jp/.
Polygamy isn't an issue in the 2D world, and the 3D world is all but out of reach for us anons.

>> No.9053098

whats that thing that japs call clearance sales

like time-out or somethin

>> No.9053096

>>9053066
What are you on about? People don't like used sluts here. That's nothing new.

>> No.9053101

>>9053064
The only way to properly "clean" her is to wipe her memories. Else the stain will forever be there in her mind.
It is whether you can accept an unclean cup. If it could be cleaned there wouldn't be a discussion.

>> No.9053103

>>9053090
Plastic is pretty porous, so yeah, it will.

>> No.9053106

>>9053090
Just kidding, I looked it up and it's tempered glass.

>>9053096
A lot of people don't, that is true.

>> No.9053113

Why would you have tea in a plastic cup? Fucking poorfags. You couldnt even afford Kou Hime at a 1 dollar store clearance sale.

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>>9053106
It's cool if you and your imaginary friends like whores. Just don't complain to us that we don't like your sluts please.

>> No.9053132

>>9053121
I haven't complained about anything in this thread so far.

>> No.9053141

>>9053121
Sound good, Ill just enjoy my self with Saten and Kou Hime. You can be forever alone, because even a 2D wouldnt want you.

>> No.9053147

>>9053141
That's cool, but Saten is on our pure virginal maiden side, brah.

>> No.9053149

>>9053147
Not even, shes a slut.

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>>9053149
Having second thoughts about joining the used goods side? Come over to the viginal maidens. We have Saten.

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>>9053147

You also have him.

>> No.9053178

>>9053162
>dat denial

>> No.9053241

>>9053178
>>9053141
What the fuck are you even trying to say, man?

>> No.9053271

>>9053241
No, what are you trying to say?
They get the used goods and we get the virginal maidens. Everybody is happy in our imaginary 2D world.

>> No.9053282

>>9053271
You wont be getting any viginal maidens. Not even a 2D would wnat to be with someone as jaded as you.

>> No.9053290

Without virtue we are beasts. Romance/love is a virtue that requires discipline of ones lust. I believe that if a girl is to learn this from experience, she may be forgiven, albeit cautiously. But a slut is worth no more than a dog in the heat, nor is a male equivilant. If you choose to live by gluttony and filth, do not pull bullshit psuedo arguments like "you just have an inferiority complex," or "youre just bitter."

>> No.9053310

>>9053282
You don't have to play the tough guy anymore. It's okay. We won't judge you for liking cumgurgling sluts.

Excuse me now. My pure virginal waifu is waiting for me.

>> No.9053315

>>9053282
Youre just being a cock now. Well, more so, thats what you were doing the whole thread.

>> No.9053320

>>9053310
You hand has touched more cock than Shar.

>> No.9053331

>>9053315
Why are used goods enthusiasts so spiteful? It makes me think they want to join our side, but are too shy. So cute.

>> No.9053337

>>9053310
>My pure virginal waifu is waiting for me.

Does she turn into a slut if you fuck her?

>> No.9053349

>>9053337
The requirement to be a slut is to be touched by 2 or more men.

>> No.9053345

>>9053337
Yes.

>> No.9053347

>>9053310
>We wont judge you
Well, not all of us. I will be, for one, but not to caustically.

>> No.9053356

>>9053337
>Fuck
Yes. Thats pretty much what a slut is, someone willing to fuck. Sex as an expression of love is perfectly pure though.
>>9053331
One of us is very confused, anon.

>> No.9053359

>>9053349

So it's okay if I fuck her before you do?

>> No.9053363

>>9053359
No.

>> No.9053366

>>9053356
>Sex as an expression of love is perfectly pure though.

So she must hate it?

>> No.9053368

Slut lovers can't take it easy as always. Maybe this is the wrong board for you.

>> No.9053369

>>9053366
...What??

>> No.9053377

>>9053368
>it easy as always

I'm under the impression that permavirgins can't take easy.

>>9053369

Let me rephrase that. If she likes it that you fuck her, would that make her a slut?

>> No.9053384

>>9053377
It's no use getting worked up everytime that we don't like used goods here. Try to take it easy.

Whore fetish is pretty rare among otaku.

>> No.9053388

>>9053377
Yes, it does. Thats a bit grey, though. Depends on what you mean by like. If she felt good, like you will having sex, but still thought it was wrong and didnt like it on an intellectual level, no. If shes too dumb or unexposed to see anything wrong with it...she may be corrupted, but she could possibly be saved.

>> No.9053397

>>9053384

But I'm not worked up. You're worked up over something insignificant as sex.

>>9053388

So, she must like it but not on a sexual level? But why do you fuck her, then?

>> No.9053411

>>9053397
You clearly are frustrated bro. Why do you care about our likes and dislikes? Other people don't like sluts. And? Why are you so worked up about it?

>> No.9053414

>>9053397
>So, she must like it but not on a sexual level?
To be a slut, essentially, yes.
>But why do you fuck her, then?
I wouldn't though. Im not the sort of filth to do that.
>you're worked up
man, you were the one spouting angry hostile "arguments" earlier in the thread.

>> No.9053416

>>9053411
Stop that anon. Youre making everything worse.
>>9053377
Permavirgin is neither an argument nor an insult.

>> No.9053417

>>9053411

Again, I'm not worked up nor I'm angry about your interests. I'm genuinely interested. Your posts are dripping with poisen. Is that some projection?

>> No.9053420

>>9053417
His post aint dripping with poison, its dripping with shitpost, as it says nothing more than "umad." He wants you to leave.

>> No.9053422

>>9053416
>Permavirgin is neither an argument nor an insult.

Of course not. It's a statement based on observation.

>> No.9053424

>>9053417
About what we define as slut?
>>9053420
I just want to help him take it easy.

>> No.9053429

>>9053424
>About what we define as slut?

No, about how you work around your contradictions. It's clearly how you define a slut by now.

>> No.9053430

>>9053422
The use of perma implies any of us who call ourselves pure would have sex if given the choice, but cant. No, any of us halfway worth calling ourselves pure would vehemently refuse.

>> No.9053435

>>9053430

No, it only implies that you are a permanent virgin. Nothing more.

And I don't believe you.

>> No.9053436

>>9053417
Stop witht he phsycology BS. Different mindsets come up with different philosophies, congratulations Dr. Freud. Your state of mind is no more valid than his own, nor his as yours. Philosophical or moral arguments cannot be made with psychology.

>> No.9053444 [DELETED] 

>>9053429
Which contradictions?
A slut is a girl who slept with more than 1 guy.
Depending on the medio it's also a girl who sleeps with anyone else but MC.
It's pretty simple.

Ask me if you don't understand something.

>> No.9053448

>>9053435
No, you meant it as an insult. And it would take very acute effort for me to do such a thing, of seduction. But the thinking about having a woman try to seduce you is narcissistic, so ill refrain.

>> No.9053450 [DELETED] 

>>9053444
*medium
I'm assuming we are talking about 2D since 3D is always PD.

>> No.9053455

>>9053444

Well, that's cool with me. Not that I agree. I was more interested in >>9053414 anyway

>> No.9053457

Which contradictions?
A slut is a girl who slept with more than 1 guy.
Depending on the medium it's also a girl who sleeps with someone else who is not MC, even if it's only 1 guy.
It's pretty simple.

Ask me if you don't understand something.
I cleaned up a bit.

>> No.9053465

>>9053448
>No, you meant it as an insult.

It's your problem if you take offence in it. Being a permanent virgin is a concrete state and you can name him like that.

>very acute effort for me to do such a thing

I understand what you mean. And it's actually not that great, either. Still, it will happens.

>> No.9053471

>>9053331
Thats just your insecurities. You are reading the simple truth in a tone of spite.

>> No.9053473

>>9053465
I dont think you do, but thats my fault because I worded it poorly. I meant it would take lots of effort on the part of the seductress to get me to fuck her. My apologies. And I say you use it as an insult because every single person ive talked to on other board before I came to /jp/ used it only as an insult, usually in awful, awful arguments only meant to arouse anger. There is nothing wrong with it, but the term has had bad company.

>> No.9053475

>>9053457

You got my answer.

>I cleaned up a bit

It's late and my error are increasing. Sadly, I'm to lazy to do the same.

>> No.9053476

>>9053457
>That denial.

Once a girl touches a cock, shes a slut, even your "waifu".

>> No.9053479

>>9053471
Please read:
>>9053436
He should not have been responded to as that kind of BS is all that that question could conjure up. It should have been taken only as a statement of "I dont like you." Not something to spark an argument or discussion.

>> No.9053485

>>9053479
All I see is more excuses for your denial.

>> No.9053486

>>9053476
Only if she sees nothing wrong with such acts, or does/would do them again.

>> No.9053487

>>9053473

Do you think you have a psychological problem with sexuality? Mind you, I'm serious here. I wonder why you even have an interest in females. Sounds frustrating.

>> No.9053488

>>9053455
That's okay then, but you still seem pretty agressive for mere interest.

You must be new if you are not familiar with this type. >>9053414
They are people who favour platonic relationships and dislike sexual activity with the loved one. Do you want to reeducate people who don't share your opinion or something?

>> No.9053492

>>9053486
Are you implying that any woman can keep cocks out of her mouth after shes gotten a taste of one?

>> No.9053493

>>9053487
Im not interested in talking to you if you cant present an argument besides "There's something wrong with you."

>> No.9053499

>>9053492
Dont be so cynical.

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>>9053493
I'm off, too. Hopefully I helped a confused slut enthusiast to understand /jp/ and otaku in general a bit better.

>> No.9053513

>>9053488
>but you still seem pretty agressive for mere interest.

Not all of the post from the "pro sluts"-side are from me. And no, I'm not new. But still amazed about that kind of people.

>>>9053493
>cant present an argument besides

I didn't want to make an argument, I asked you a question. A serious one. Yes, I think there is something wrong with you. So what? I have plenty of mental errors and faults.

>> No.9053514

>>9053492
Actually they care more about money than cocks. I'm sure I just blew your mind there.

>> No.9053532

>>9053513
I do not have a psychological problem with sex. I have a philosophy and a set of morals. You seem to think yourself superior to me because youre speaking from a phsycological standpoint, as if the mental state that brings about a belief has any importance to the belief itself, and isnt just a lazy way of dismissing things, and I probably come across as a self righteous moralist. Let me ask YOU a question. Why are you on/did you come to /jp/?

>> No.9053536

>>9053514
They like cocks and money equally. They persue men with money for a meal ticket because they can get cocks anywhere. The world is in heavy supply of cocks.

>> No.9053554

>>9053532
>I have a philosophy and a set of morals.

I respect people with principles, seriously. I have 1 or 2 myself. Still, that kind of moral sounds pretty frustraiting.

>as if the mental state that brings about a belief has any importance to the belief itself

But it has. People rationalize their deficit. I do the same, occasionally.

>Let me ask YOU a question. Why are you on/did you come to /jp/?

Mostly for VNs.

>> No.9053567

>>9053554
Even if the belief most certainly stems from a deficit, its just plain lazy to ridicule it based on the person. If youre so sure its bullshit, you should most certainly be able to conceive a moral/philosophical reason WHY instead of just claiming they are in denial.
>Frustrating
I dont know what you mean nor could I imagine how.

>> No.9053577

>>9053567

You're most likely mixing my post up with other people's. I don't redicule anybody who tries to have a serious discussion with me. If someone tries to piss me off, I piss back, simple.

>I dont know what you mean nor could I imagine how.

Your sex drive must be pretty low. I congratulate you on that.

>> No.9053606

>>9053577
I was the one who said that without virtue, we are beasts. Virtue requires discipline, and as I said, romance/purity requires discipline, or at least denial, of lust. I dont think I could say off the top of my head what my sex drive is, because I dont feel it matters unless its powerful enough to cripple any thought besides it. I suppose that even when I feel I must masturbate, its been a year since I last felt it to be any MUST JACK OFF NOW thing, as opposed to a vague interest out of natural response and boredom.

>> No.9053626

>>9053606
>romance

That's an invention of the 19th century and the only reason why it doesn't die is because hollywood nourish it. The fundament of a relationship between man and woman is physical attraction. "Love" only exists to create safe environment for child rearing.

Do you seriously think humans are more than higher forms of animals?

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>>9053626
I love Komoe.

>> No.9053641

>>9053626
Yes, I do. And love/romance is not about physical attraction. Its about affection and companionship. The "natural relationship" of lust is meaningless, unless you choose yourself to be nothing more than a beast.

>> No.9053654

>>9053641
>And love/romance is not about physical attraction

Physical attraction is the reason why something like romantic love can exist in the first place. Otherwhise a relationship between man and woman would be pointless. You could live together with a man.

>> No.9053675

>>9053654
>The construction of our brain is the primitive basis upon which our other beliefs and values are built upon
Congratulations. Its fucking nothing. And romance isnt necessarily restricted by sex. I would assume....That the survival drive of attraction to women makes it easier to develop, or at least mistake the prescence of such relationships in men to women, but I fully acknowledge my definition doesnt include gender stipulations. Regardless, you could argue that base instincts are capable of developing or being shaped into things beyond animal instinct, such as lust to romance, but I wont make that argument because I havnt considered it too much.

>> No.9053690

>>9053675
Its fucking nothing as in, captain obvious, or Look! the sky is blue!

>> No.9053704

>>9053654
Thats not love, thats lust, dipshit.

>> No.9053701

>>9053626
>>9053654

Actually you're just spelling ignorance right there. Your projection that everyone needs sex in love is just like saying people will take a piss in the middle of the street when their bladder is full. I know it's hard to believe but somewhere along the way this fancy thing called society, dignity and philosophy developed and suddenly people start to care about things other than fucking and surviving.

Just start reading about poets and writers in the past. Some of them had "lovers" who were actually just women with an intellectual head and a poetic soul. They were content with just communicating with the women via letters and never meeting them in person. Some of the women were even married.

>> No.9053709

>>9053675
>And romance isnt necessarily restricted by sex

The question is why you regard something as romance as important for the human development. It's really a pretty new concept and created many problems from which everyone here suffered at least once. I can understand the concept of having a female all to yourself, it's biological pretty logic, after all. But that doesn't have to be mutual. Polygamy is the more natural choice for men.

>> No.9053730

>>9053701
>is just like saying people will take a piss in the middle of the street when their bladder is full.

Eh, I can't see were I made a claim like that. I've never said we should should remove the barrier between public and private life. Actually, that's an entirely different topic.

>Just start reading about poets and writers in the past. Some of them had "lovers" who were actually just women with an intellectual head and a poetic soul.

And most of them got over it and found a woman who was actually interested in them.

>>9053704

Read the post again, I can help you if you have problems with all these funny letters. Just ask.

>> No.9053735

>>9053709
I agree with
>>9053701
You see, the only logic that can justify disregarding romance because its not neccecary for the advancement of the huamn race, or expansion, is hardcore rationalism/pragmatism. But you see, its impossible to justify any philosophy save nihilism with that belief because it all leads directly to it. And with nihilism its impossible to justify anything.

>> No.9053740

>>9053730
the point of his post was
>thing called society, dignity and philosophy developed and suddenly people start to care about things other than fucking and surviving.
If youre going to say those are useless to survival, not only reread it, but see:
>>9053735
The second part of it.

>> No.9053741

>>9053735
>disregarding romance

I don't disregard romance entirely. It can be a pretty funny hobby, like video games. But it has no signifigance for us as race.

>> No.9053743

>>9053730
<Physical attraction is the reason why something like romantic love can exist in the first place.

thats lust not love dipshit.

>> No.9053748

>>9053741
Thats only true if your only concern is survival. Survival is no longer a worry to any first world civilization so we move the fuck on. If you still focus only on survival or race-level practicality, you're essentially sticking the finger to the very philosophy you hold and all its built, which is a society and situation that doesn't need to worry about such things.

>> No.9053747

>>9053740
>If youre going to say those are useless to survival

Now, now. I didn't say anything about that. The only thing which bothers me is why romantic love should be necessary for the civilization. There were plenty civilization where the concept of romantic love was pretty weak or almost none existent. It's not like a card house, it doesn't crash if you take one card out.

>> No.9053751

>>9053743

And now try to grasp the meaning of that sentence. Go on, I believe in you.

>> No.9053753

>>9053747
I believe
>>9053748
covers this, as maintaining civilization as I think you're talking about works on the same logic as retaining ideas of survival in such an environment.

>> No.9053762

>>9053753

Actually, this >>9053747

Can be a pretty acurate reply to >>9053748

I just can't see why we would regress to mudpeople only because we treat romantic love as it is.

>> No.9053772

>>9053762
Because your reasoning seems to only be based around the expansion and maintenance of civilization, which is just a somewhat more abstract form of survival and natural dominance.

>> No.9053777

>>9053772
ahem
not whey well revert to mudpeople, mind you, but as an explanation of what I said.
We wont regress to mudpeople for it, the problem is not practicality/pragmatism.

>> No.9053786

>>9053751
Pretty sure it means you are an idiot, idiot.

>> No.9053788

>>9053772

Do you treat culture as just an expension of survival? If yes, romantic love is part of that. Do you think romantic love brings you closer to a more complete being? The opposite is true. Romantic love creates dependencies.

>> No.9053790

thanks for keeping the sperglord occupied in this thread!

>> No.9053795

>>9053788
No, YOU are treating it as an expansion of survival. And by the basic definition of civilization, not necessarily, we get along without it fine most places, as disgusting as I find that. Define "Complete Being." I dont see the apparant appeal of autonomy as a philosophical concept as opposed to a preference if your antisocial. As for dependencies, I cant present anything against that without knowing what you mean by complete being.

>> No.9053833

>>9053795
>No, YOU are treating it as an expansion of survival.

Where? All I say is that we could create more recources for more important things. Maybe we could immerse ourself in philosophy. That's not important for survival either, seems still more valuable than romantic love.


>Define "Complete Being."

Dunno, a more complete being than today. Developing as a human being under your own principles.

>> No.9053829
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9053829

What if I'm a guy that's addicted to cock, even though I've never sucked one?

>> No.9053859

>>9053829
Suck mine cutie

>> No.9053872

>>9053833
Thats a rather flimsy definition to put an arguement on, the second bit of that post. Anyway, from a rather quick, possibly shallow analysis, I believe that the values behind romantic love and it, at its core, is based around empathy and kindness. Empathy promotes deeper understanding of...well, most things regarding human thought and/or emotion. Kindness should be self explanatory, anyway. I speak of both of these from a philosophical standpoint, as useful as they happen to be for survival, at times.

>> No.9053903

>>9053872
>Thats a rather flimsy definition to put an arguement on

I only brought it up because I thought that's where you came from, apologize if I'm wrong.

>I believe that the values behind romantic love and it, at its core, is based around empathy and kindness.

That's really nice 'n stuff. But you don't need romantic love for that. You can basically have that kind of relationship with your sister, brother, or any friend.

>> No.9053940

>>9053903
I have what I might define as such a relationship with my best friend. Perhaps I should just cut the romantic off this when referring to it, as romantic love seems to only now entail the sort of companionship where using physically intimate activities as an expression of love is acceptable(they do work as this to a scientific level-insemination causes release of chemicals that cause feelings of bonding for both parties. But ive said that nature isnt important, so thats why I dont value sex to highly in such things.) As for developing under your principals, if a principal belief of mine is value of empathy and kindness, and I believe love is derivative of that, it DOES further it, doesn't it? Either way, I seem to have reached the conclusion from this that romantic love is not as valuable in comparison to love of a friend, say, as id thought previously.

>> No.9053958

>>9053940

Now that's something I can understand. And it doesn't sound hipocritical at all. Thanks for the civilized discussion. Good night.

>> No.9055153

>>9052797
congrats on the marriage

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