/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

How is NEET not a status symbol again? Just because some don't necessarily want to be NEET doesn't change the fact that someone else (the state, your parents) can and is supporting you. Some people simply can't afford to be NEET (poorfag with no social safety net). In fact, some NEETs actually live BETTER than working people through their leeching.

So isn't all a simple case of priviledge one way or another? In the 'hahaha, I can afford to be unemployed and you can't' sense?

[Anonymous No.]

Nobody should be proud to leech off their parents.

[Anonymous No.]

It is though. Don't let those insecure false NEETs trick you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8991581
Leeching off the state however, is a fine and noble thing to do.

Also, didn't most of /jp/ have really bad parents? In which case it would be fine to bleed them dry, too.

[Labarador !!iuszTExGCNs No.]

sucks to be you loser

i born to be NEET

god wills it

[Anonymous No.]

It's not. You're just a moron.

[Anonymous No.]

It is, we're like ancient Greeks.
A life of pleasure perusing our interests.

Too bad normals think our interests are shit and our lifestyle is weird.

[Anonymous No.]

If you're a NEET, it's probably your parent's fault in one way or another, so don't feel about leeching off of them. If they couldn't support a kid, then they shouldn't have had one.

Oh, and the whole "fuck u ur suposed to leave as son as u turn 18 nerd" thing? Fuck you. If your parents expected to only have a son or daughter for 18 years, yet never prepared their child for it, then it's on them.

OP, I would like nothing more than to be a full on NEET-my only problem is the lack of money. I envy you NEETs, and respect your dedication to taking it easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8991648
Why is it a shame?
Do you need them to validate your existence?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8991592
How exactly is leeching off the state a fine and noble thing to do?
Especially for those NEETs that look down on normals and society in general. You don't find one bit of hypocrisy in doing that and yet at the same time relying on said 'normals' and 'society' in order to survive? Take that society. I spend my time bashing you anyway I can but for the love of god please please please don't cut my benefits. Fuck those people and hurrah for this government cutting benefits to said self-righteous bums.

>>8991581
What about NEETs who wouldn't work even if given counseling and a chance at a decent job with good pay and conditions? One of my brother's old classmates is apparently from a well-to-do family that set him up with multiple sweet jobs no questions asked. But he simply didn't want to work any of them and they ended up having to kick him out eventually.

Do NEETs have absolutely 0 responsibility for their lives or something? It's all the parent's fault even if they weren't molested/abused or born bumfuck poor and given nothing. From an objective perspective, should this be the case? I for one think not.

[Anonymous No.]

It's a status symbol in the same way being a virgin is a status symbol: you can boast about and justify it all you like, but in the end, it doesn't impress anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992047
You could just in theory brand yourself as a socialite (a term made up for certain rich people) or 'aloof' scholar (autodidact of course). Or some other euphenism that is somehow more socially acceptable. They might not be impressed with you but there will be those that can't help but envy your privileged family/environmental circumstances.

[Anonymous No.]

It's a group of children that take pride in being useless.

One day they will crack and realize that they contribute nothing to society and don't deserve to live. Being proud and flaunting around you NEET status is equal to being a 'proud' homosexual.

[Anonymous No.]

>How is NEET not a status symbol again?
/jp/'s NEETs go shunning anyone on /jp/ that has a job as "normals." They think being a NEET is the most abnormal state one can be in, therefore treat is as their label of deviating from society. Ironically enough, this narcissistic and egoistic mentality (along with the attempt to be different from everyone else) is one of the most normal things ever, despite how strongly they proclaim themselves as "not normal." In general, they are really annoying, act like spoiled little children and think that their opinion is what makes /jp/ stay alive. I have nothing wrong with NEETs personally, it's just that a lot of them are (or at least act like) spoiled children and just can't let a day go by without them announcing their presence and self-proclaimed superiority. It wouldn't be a status symbol if they didn't treat it like a such.

[Anonymous No.]

NEETs are posers. TruNEET hikkis are where its at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992098
It's funny because usually it's the Normals that regret their choices in life.

[Anonymous No.]

I, living out my inheritance, do not feel superior nor useful. But I must admit that I have a comfortable position.
I pity most of the people that can't dedicate their lives to what they love.

[Anonymous No.]

op is jelly I can live the life I want as HELL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8991574
How do I get autism bucks, /jp/? I really need them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992136

Study a mental disease for a few days, especially the actual textbook symptoms, go to a pyschologist, pretend to them have voila.

You'll have to go a few times, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992115

Normals don't understand what it's like being hikki and forced into being NEET because you don't function as well as society has intended. I apprecate a good day's work and it's hell being forced into not working.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm neet because I'm scared of those pigs man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JXPpfgbe_I

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992136
In my country they give you money if you are unemployed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992136
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S6512844#p6512897

Written by an expert, and having used his system myself I can assure you that it does work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992244

I envy your hikki/NEET lifestyle despite being socially skilled-you should view it as more a blessing than a curse, friendo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992294

That's part of the reason why it's so bad being neet. People get jealous and judge you for it, especially on job applications. I just haven't been able to enter the job market and my parents hate me for it. Every time I talk to them they make me feel like shit, as if I don't feel bad enough already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992344
>Every time I talk to them they make me feel like shit, as if I don't feel bad enough already.
No, it's not just you, so don't think you're special. It's a little something known as "reality."

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992115
Wrong, stop projecting your insecurity to everyone fucking falseNEET. You not happy as a NEET then just go to school or work. Plenty of people here prefer the NEET lifestyle and by choice.
I will probably be bashed for this but I am not a fulltime NEET. I am not as lucky as some of you out there since I am unable to get government handout.
What I do to be a NEET is that I actually work. On average about 6months/year. Have been doing this for like 3years+.
Basically I work as free lance contract monthly and then quit and NEET with my unemployment insurance.
Working is fucking suffering and looking forward to being a NEET is my only way of suffering through my daily work lifestyle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992032
Think about the other side of the spectrum, the super rich. Do you think they work or give a fuck about all the "little people" that worked hard to give them the wealth they now live on?

Yet you would take that lifestyle in a moment.
(And if you wouldn't then you are just full-on retarded)

No matter what philosophy you or anyone might have on life, the most simple, boiled way to look at is is: How much am/can I enjoy(ing) life.

Working your ass off at McDonalds doesn't make you a "contributor to society" because you work DAMN HARD for your money and EARN IT!

It just makes you stupid for not being able to live a life without having to work (like the super rich do).

Captcha: economic rdurite

[Anonymous No.]

As a NEET, what you should be most concerned with is how to get money for housing, electricity, internet and figs.

Food should not be an issue, America wastes 50% of its food. Do some dumpster diving research, in busy areas in say 10 minutes you can get all the food you want for free, legally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992440
Felling very aristocratic in here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992440
Merely by working and paying taxes, one becomes "a contributor to society", as you put it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992440
>It just makes you stupid for not being able to live a life without having to work (like the super rich do).

And how exactly does one go about signing up to be born into a super rich family? Or even just a strong upper-middle class one that can support a high standard of living for you until the day you die? What's the probability of being born into such families again? I'm sure many would like to know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992440
>Working your ass off at McDonalds doesn't make you a "contributor to society" because you work DAMN HARD for your money and EARN IT!
Yes it does, except that the whole "contributor to society" bullshit is something invented by the rich to keep the poor workers making their money for them.

Catchpa: mcdonalds truNEET/jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992434
Judging from the way you posted, the only insecure one here is you. But it's clear that you treat NEET as a status symbol, strongly evident from the very way you use "falseNEET" and probably "truNEET" in a serious sense. And where in my post did I ever say that I was a NEET, or "falseNEET," for that matter? (Rhetorical question, it does not beg for an answer.) Thank you for telling me about your wonderful life, though. I was very touched.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992440
The super-rich, especially members of the 'core' family do have to work to maintain their empire. This includes the offspring of the founder/patriach line. Just look at op exec James Murdoch or even Buffet who supposedly doesn't want to leave a massive family fortune/empire behind yet his son will serve as a 'guardian' non-exec chairman for BH. Not all of them can be hedonistic fucks concerned only about themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992540
I dont know how anyone can see an extra 10hours/day to spend on anything that you want as not a status symbol.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/feb/01/top-five-regrets-of-the-dying
Guess how many ticks you get by being a NEET?
It checked 4/5 of people top5 regrets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992480
No it doesn't it just makes you a pissant worker ant hulling 20 tons of shit around so the queen can sit on her lazy ass, lazy but enjoying it.

Enjoy your bad back when you reach 40+

>>8992483
Obviously zero if you aren't already there.

That is why you become NEET though. Only people that are smart enough and don't buy into the "I am worthy because I work" bullshit can pull it off though.

[Anonymous No.]

Being a NEET is shit unless your parents give you enough money to buy all the stuff you want.

What's the point of living if you can't get what you want?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992575

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992575
>Only people that are smart enough and don't buy into the "I am worthy because I work" bullshit can pull it off though.

So if you're in a country with a shit-tier social safety net (no hurr durr free autism bux) and your family isn't wealthy enough to support a cushy lifestyle for you until the day you die, how do you afford to become a NEET? I suppose you could try sneaking into another country but they won't be very happy about you just wanting to leech off their welfare. The welfare policy may even change for the worse in this age of austerity. Willpower alone doesn't guarantee in any way that you can become and stay a NEET indefinitely. The initial dice roll determining your environment and who you will be born to has a crucial role.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992593
My parents give me tons of money to spend on things, but I never actually spend it on anything. Guess that makes me the oddball out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992608
That just mean you arent smart enough to beat the system.
1) Use the first 20years of your life to acquire knowledge
2) Finish a degree as the top1 percentile of your class
3) Acquire PR/Citizenship of welfare state that you desire
4) Achieve welfare/autism bux
5) NEET for life
Again majority of people goal in life is to be a NEET.
What they dont realize is, you dont have to wait for 60years to achieve the goal.
And if you are girl, it is even easier, just get married to a rich dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992636
And if you are girl, it is even easier, just get married to a rich dude.

Couldn't a guy just marry a rich woman? Or a rich gay guy?

[Anonymous No.]

How dare those dirty NEETs not feel inferior to us glorious normal working people!?

Stop being proud of what you are and bow down to us!

Normalfags logic is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992608
Look kid, I'm not here to teach people HOW to be NEET; I'm just here to say that the people that DO get away with being NEET or Super-rich are the true winners in life.

[Anonymous No.]

itt: butthurt /jp/sies who don't belong to the truNEET master race

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992646
Society standard prevent that from happening as the man is still considered the bread winner of the family.
Double standard and gender equality but I am sure you can find a rich fat woman to feed you if you are handsome and cool like Gilgamesh.

[Anonymous No.]

Aren't there jobs out there that you would actually like to do /jp/?

I think the only reason that jobs are so shitty for everyone is because you don't want to do them, but I'm sure some of you would love to have a job that is genuinely fun for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992653
How dare those dirty normals not feel inferior to us glorious unemployed NEETs!?

Stop being proud of what you are and bow down to us!

NEET logic is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992593
You can always find money online if you know where to look.

[Anonymous No.]

truhumbleneet here.

I just want to be left alone. Can't be alone if I work. I don't think I'm better than anyone else or think I'm a waste of space either. I exist and that's that.

I think most NEETs are like me. There's only a very small vocal minority of neets who actually think of their lifestyle as a status symbol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992688
I don't really care what normalfags think, myself.

In fact, if anything I want the worker class to think they are superior because the world is unlikely to be able to support a NEET majority. The worker class is needed for my benefit.

So, continue to enjoy eating all your bullshit with a proud grin, by all means =)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992688
We don't care about normals.
It's you normals who come and mess with our board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992688
It is not as ridiculous as you think.
You work you pay tax.
The government will then use those money to pay the NEETs out there.
In theory you are actually working for NEETs.
Just think about it for a sec?
It is a good thing you guys are unable to see this. Keep the system going.

[Anonymous No.]

So if I understand this correctly, the NEET side of this debate is arguing that by virtue of being able to do whatever they please by gaming the system, they are inherently superior to the stupid blue-collar workers who slave away and pay taxes to fund the social security programs said NEETs rely for survival?

Oh wow lol.

[Anonymous No.]

It's always funny how NEETs justify their slothful worthless ways. As if they've found enlightenment and are somehow fighting against our corrupt system by living free happy lives.

When in reality they're just leeching off their parents and forcing them to support them by working in the system they're too lazy to enter themselves. They don't contribute anything to society in any way and just stay indoors all day in front of their computer screens not living life in any worthwhile way. They're mostly depressed and lonely due to the natural tendency to be such when you live such a sad life, so to comfort themselves they glorify their lives to strangers over the internet and group together so they don't have to hear any logic other than their own.

Hopefully their parents will either cut them off or die, forcing these children to either work or starve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992866

No we don't think we are superior than normals.
Just capable of looking at the world from a different perspective than most.
That doesn't make us better or worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992866
>>8992956
Buttmad workers detected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992986
What perspective would that be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992866
>>8992956
lol go punch your time card workers ahahaha faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992956

Your play time per day = around 2 hours

My play time per day = around 10-12 hours

U mad bro?

[Anonymous No.]

Pseudo-intellectual verbal vomit from "enlightened" NEETs who think they have the world figured out from their parents' basement. Like a 5 year old trying to drive a car. I hate to break bad news, but mommy and daddy won't live forever. :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993031
There is a thing call inheritance.
There is also a thing call renting out your house/shops.
Sucks to be, being born into a lousy life.
Go buy some helium and reroll your life bro.
You already lost @ lvl1.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think either side of this ridiculous truNEET war is worth a damn. Normals who want the world to lick their feet for it, or truNEETs who think they're some kind of philosophical movement should both just let it go and take it easy. 4chan is not a place to talk about your job, or how school is going. It was a fringe site to trade porn on. If you want people to give a damn about you, use facebook or something. Pressing for recognition here is just kind of silly.

Basically, no one wants to see you try and use this board as a way to network for school or work, but equally nobody wants to see you stand up and preach about how great you are becuase you don't work either.

Just don't bring up your life here, and do what everyone can enjoy and post touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

TruNEET supremacy is an elaborate joke.

You have all been trolled.

Go home and be a family man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993046
I think NEETs need to admit theyre sheltered.

Anon, you enjoy yourself, fine, but I wish you werent so arrogant. There is a large, intricate world out there and you know little about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993031

>Implying all NEETs automaticaly must live with their parents

Nope

Truth: I am currently living in my own place and paying $0 a month for it

U mad though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993046
I guess mental maturity is slower with some people than others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993063

>implying that I never saw any of the world before I decided to become a NEET.

A lot of have had "lives" jobs, girlfriends etc.
We've seen just as much of the world as any normalfag.
And it's often because of what we have seen and experienced that the decision to shut ourselves off from is made.

Wait until your gf leaves you, your best bro dies and you lose your job.
Then see if you feel like seeing the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>intricate world out there and you know little about it.
aint much out there really or just nothing i care to find

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993063
And I'm sure your average Joe working at a grocery store to pay bills has seen so much of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993083
This.

Sure my life started kind of sheltered. But once I was out on my own I went out and met life head on. In about six short years I discovered a lot of about the world and about myself. Following which I went right back to my room. I know what's out there, I just don't want any part of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993083
Typical neet response, someone who feels hurt by the world and doesn't want to leave his room any more. Instead of trying to strive to overcome life you just pity yourself and shut out the world.

[Anonymous No.]

Average NEET: lives happily and worry free

Average working normie: slaves away to buy his happiness and deludes himself into believing he ``has a life''

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993083
>a lot of us had lives, jobs
going to highschool doesnt count everyone does that. Tell me, though, how old are you? Again, if you had a minimum wage job for a year or two after high school youre not exactly qualified to consider yourself superior and enlightened. I dont have a best bro or a gf, nor do I want to see the world. I just like going to school so I do. I like the feeling of improving myself, and I plan to make a lot of monet to fund my weeaboo habits in the future. I dont claim to live a better like, but the difference is not I dont wallow in self pity, and somehow, arrogance at the same time like a gigantic faggot

>baw my gf left me i so sad ;___;
>but im so happy, and lead such a good like cuz im NEET u mad lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993102
Average neet who uses the word neet is depressed, lonely, loser who desperately wishes for a more fulfilling life.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you all trying to be mentally superior to each other. What is the point? Just stop, stop all the fighting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992032
>How exactly is leeching off the state a fine and noble thing to do?

It's very simple, you pay taxes, yet normals will shun you for taking advantage of the system that you support with your taxes.

[Anonymous No.]

ITT young children think going to highschool counts as life experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993143
It's in people's nature to want to feel superior to others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993102
>Average working normie: slaves away to buy his happiness and deludes himself into believing he ``has a life''
This is what clueless NEETs who don't know more than what they read on 4chan actually believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993143
this is neo /jp/.
They all have something to prove.

One half wants nothing more than to pretend to be among the first posters. And the other wants to spit on all that and make a new culture built around the new generation. Neither have anything to do with the board itself. I guess that's one thing that will never change. /jp/ will always draw in the crazies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993126

You're basically asking for my life story.
I'll save that for my autobiography.
Maybe you can buy a copy when it comes out, and support my new job as an author, then I won't have to get wealthare.

[Anonymous No.]

truNEET: low on money but cozy and happy, hates normies but doesn't do anything about it

``has a life'' normie: shitty life but has money and a "gf" to mitigate the shit, hates NEETs but can't do anything about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993155
>neo /jp/

yeah as if a board changes that much to warrant the word "neo" to be used.

next week will be neo neo /jp/, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993166
If you were truNEET you would live on a farm and be completely self sufficient. You're just a child living with his parents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993057
PLEASE

RESPOND

FAGLORDS

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993166

/thread

[Anonymous No.]

From what I can see, there are a few smart people arguing on both sides of the debate in this thread. Unfortunately, they're having trouble getting their points across to each other due to the sheer number of retards also participating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993179
>self sufficient
That pretty much means self employed. No longer in the NEET status, they are a whole different class of people.

>you're just a child
Typical raging normie reply to try and get a truNEET to work or commit suicide. Won't work, normie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993177
I believe I've seen it called that already by our most recent generation. That said, you're just looking to shit fling, and will do everything in your power to deny that the board has changed at all.

Now you will make a small concession to justify your stance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993194
I'm a truNEET, no normie, just trying to sheppard poor misguided NEETs who have gone down a misguided path of believing that NEETdom is the light.

If you're under 25 and/or living with your parents, you're a child.

[Anonymous No.]

I love reading posts about normals who are so deeply angered by NEETs and all they have to show for it is their ``having a live'' mentality. That said, I'm a normal myself. I'm just not afraid of admitting that I wish I was a NEET.

[Anonymous No.]

i think these things have to be this way

read these words on your screen

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I wasn't a NEET. shit's getting boring to be honest and I can't afford jack shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993229
It's really just a conservative/liberal split.

Doesn't mean it has to be that way, but it really is to be expected.

[Anonymous No.]

A normal was kind enough to let me into his home and he spoke with me while his wife made us a meal. He told me that he works full time and often when he gets home, his wife is sleeping, or when his wife gets home he is sleeping, but the few hours they get to spend together make living worthwhile. It is difficult for me to call what he had happiness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993101
>Instead of trying to strive to overcome life you just pity yourself and shut out the world.

How do "overcome life" mean here? Why does someone need to "overcome" anything? You need to constantly prove yourself to others or something? Can't call that living.

By opting out of the rat race, that is "overcoming" in itself, no?

[Anonymous No.]

A NEET was kind enough to let me into his mother's home and he spoke with me while his mother made him a grilled cheese. He told me that he stays home all day playing video games, watching anime, and posting on imageboards all while never leaves his house , he has no girlfriend or any friends at all, his mother works all day just to support him while he sits in front of his computer, but he said his life was fulfilling and happy. It is difficult for me to call what he had happiness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993262
No thats giving up and crying over it bitterly before it has eve begun.. Whatever, Enjoy your room in which you are oh--so--happy, you're just another typical neet out of thousands, which in reality are known to society as losers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993063
Why should I not be arrogant?
I achieved financial independence early into my life?
>"enlightened" NEETs who think they have the world figured out from their parents' basement. Like a 5 year old trying to drive a car. I hate to break bad news, but mommy and daddy won't live forever
I can smell your jealousy from 10000miles away.
And you got your distinction wrong. A NEET is not a hikki. I can be a NEET and still go out.
Only difference is, I can go out and play while you guys are busy working your ass off.
I probably traveled more places and country that you can only dream of.
Stay jealous normalfag and please try to broaden your world horizon instead of being stuck in your cubicle everyday. Go out and see the world and realize how much you are missing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993284
90% so called NEETs on the internet are Hikkys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993279
>known to society as losers

What did I lose? What did you win?

``lifee''?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8992655
Not everyone wants to be a selfish worthless piece of shit who will only be memorable because he leached off of others who he thinks he is better than. Why don't you kill yourself and make the world a better place for everyone else?

[Anonymous No.]

The difference between us blue collars and freeloading fucks is that we could survive war, apocalypse, zombie invasion name it

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993292
what have you fought for and succeeded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993289

Stay mad, it suits you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993296
>avoiding the question

lel

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993299
lol he mad bro XD
le epic win!!!!!!111

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993290
so you're saying that the ones used to excess living and luxury would survive better than those who have experience with getting by with little?

nice delusions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993279

And you've given in. You are just another soul to be exploited, like millions of others. Enjoy slaving away for 40 years of your life out of that false sense of accomplishment installed into you by our plutocratic society.

You are just another worker bee amongst worker bees and ea

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993279

And you've given in. You are just another soul to be exploited, like millions of others. Enjoy slaving away for 40 years of your life out of that false sense of accomplishment installed into you by our plutocratic society.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993296
i fought for the usage of you'r'e' mom's' ass hole NERD

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993286
So go insult the hikky instead of us NEET.
I am still waiting for a good argument on why my lifestyle is bad compare to people slaving in cubicle and flipping burgers. Stay mad hardworking upstanding citizens while I enjoy playing outside during this fine spring season.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993307
to survive the above you need to go outside. Checkmate

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>8993273
>>doing what he wants 24/7
>>surrounded by people who love him 24/7

That's essentially what every human being calls happiness right there. Has nothing to do with being a non-NEET or a NEET.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993312
Enjoy sitting on your ass leaching off of others for 40 years with a false sense of superiority installed into you by self-delusions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993314
Give me your life story in bullet form please.
Please respond.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993320

Thanks, I will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993320
I will enjoy spending my vast amounts of free time doing what I want leaching off the efforts of others, thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993314
>>surrounded by people who love him 24/7
No parent love their child truly when they're wasting their lives and not even contributing anything to their families.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993328
this is what a normie whos parents hate him and kicked him out at 18 years old really thinks

not erveryones parents hate their kids. maybe you're just an insufferable prick to be around too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993331
He is an otaku who wants to sex konata, that's all there is to it.

[Anonymous No.]

Reading this thread really makes me hate the fact that governments waste money on worthless shits like the ones in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993346
This thread really makes me glad I get to antagonize sensitive kids like you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993334
>This is what a neet leach whose parents are too nice to tell him how they feel or to make him help pay for the food he eats or do anything at all with his life

Is your father dead? That would make sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993334

>insufferable

pretentious fanfic writer detected

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993334
would you water a dead plant?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993346
don't like it, nerd? stop paying taxes then. then see where you end up hahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993334
>This is what a neet leach whose parents are too nice to tell him how they feel or to make him help pay for the food he eats or do anything at all with his life really thinks

Is your father dead? That would make sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993348
another one of those guys with limited vocabularies who gets mad when he sees certain words used?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993346
Who even lets people like you on /jp/?
>>>/r9k/
>>>/soc/
>>>/v/
>>>/reddit/
>>>/facebook/
>>>/ck/
>>>/cm/
>>>/mlp/
>>>/g/
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993352
Why do you even live?

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>8993331
My life story has no place in a NEET thread.

>>8993328
Some really kind parents do. That's why NEETs actually exist. Some parents love their kids a little too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993346
Why do you assume every NEET is on welfare, you fucking tard? I'd rather starve to death than take your or Uncle Sam's kike money.

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any other ex conscript NEETs out there?
Westerners need not apply.

[Anonymous No.]

This is pretty amusing, normals trying to establish a foothold on /jp/ - the citadel of neetsism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993356

It's not my fault you're a shit writer

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993346
Are you still mad that you cant beat this system?
Then stop paying tax.
You know the difference between slave like you and us liberated NEET?
We can adapt while if you lose your job you are dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993363
Send it to the email

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993370
Why wouldn't I live? Not gettin' you there, just because you can't stand the thought of someone more happy than you doesn't mean you need to wish death upon them, jealousy will be your undoing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993363
That's true, it's destructive though. The love the give isn't healthy for themselves or their children.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993346
Your taxes bought me an entire box of fuckholes, and $400 worth of tea this month alone.

Keep breaking your back for me, okay~?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993346

Not everyone is smart enough to job the system, after all.

Is it late where you live? Better wash that McJob uniform and get ready for another day of being a useful member of society.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993388
>We can adapt

Explain, because I can't see how you would live if someone wasn't taking care of you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993369
lol u told him! /jp/ - NEET Genral, am i rite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993381
I'm not even the guy who used the word
you're really just angry because of the contexts you've seen this word in before, and nine times out of ten people like you are mad because once, you had to look up the word and decided that it's not your fault you didn't know its definition, it's that the guy is a pretentious dick for using a word you didn't know, and you decided for yourself that he must have thought he was being especially clever to use that word, when in all likelihood he didn't put any more thought into using it than he would any other word

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993380
This thread is terrible and everybody posting in it is retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993397
we adapt by finding someone who will take care of us, idiot

as long as we're living in this 1st world country

[Anonymous No.]

I heard that those filthy American savages kick their children out at the age of 16. Why are Americans so psychotic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993397
Because someone will always be willing to, even if they don't really know it (see: wellfare)

[Anonymous No.]

When will the normies stop coming here to complain about truNEETs?
Do you want to be accepted by them that badly?

Do it like everybody else: Just keep your normal seeming opinions outside /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993397
Read
>>8993284
>>8993046
It is not my fault I spend all my free time reading books acquiring knowledge while you guys are busy working all the time. financial management do you know it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993411
>>8993412
Wouldn't the guy who loses his job also get welfare? The guy said a NEET adapts and the person who works dies, as if they were superior at surviving.

[Anonymous No.]

This is the face of NEETdom.

Is this what you NEETs like and strive to be?

[Anonymous No.]

It's not a status symbol and I don't treat it as such. I am happy and that's pretty much what really matters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=G_eyUVVcgc8#t=74s

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993424
He's a normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993424
no that is the face of a normie neet unsatisfied with his life. truneets are clever individuals with iqs higher than 5 normies working at mcdicks combined

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993422
Please ask them if the amount of welfare can sustain their lifestyle? They cant. NEETs are thrifter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993443
Can you provide some evidence because it sounds like you're just talking out of your ass.

[Anonymous No.]

Only the religious have the courage to waste away 8 hours of their lives every day. I don't want to do that. If I could I'd just leave the universe, but I don't even know if death is an escape anymore, and I'm not willing to take the chance. So I'm stuck in my apartment on my computer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993424
By the standards of roleplaying truNEETs, this guy wins at life.

[Anonymous No.]

No one is superior, nothing really mattress.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993451
An employee doesn't think about how to spend less, they live in excess and wasteful style, if in the event they lose their job, they won't be a ble to sustain this, this will stress them and make them want to look for another job to sustain their excessive lifestyle, yet again being drawn in to the slavery the system forces you in to. NEETs have plenty of experience in both playing said system and figuring ways to live both cheaply and comfortably, without needing to work.

>>8993460
16-year old nihilism, I'd almost feel nostalgic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993451
It is very simple.
Do they have to pay for rent our house mortgage?
A car?
A wife?
Kids?
Insurance care?

Lets turn the question another way.
If a person is used to spend $5000/month, what would happened if he was suddenly forced to only have $500/month?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993446
>>8993437
>CWC cons the wellfare system to buy things he wants that are related to his hobbies
NEETs take pride in conning the welfare system to buy things that are related to their hobbies
>CWC lives with his parents
Many neets live with their parents
>He doesn't work
NEETs don't work
>He's proud of his ability to con the welfare system
NEETs take pride in this aswell
>He doesn't go to school
NEETs don't go to school

He sounds pretty NEET to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993450
I'm not impressed by this new technique of you normals to pretend that all the truNEETs of /jp/ are just your fellow normals playing pretend.

I liked it more when you would try to use "taking it easy" as an excuse for truNEETs to sit back and let normals take over.

[Anonymous No.]

A NEET claiming to be superior to a normal is like a kid cheating on a test and getting 100 saying he's smarter then the kid who actually took it and got a 95, since he knew how to beat the system.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993460
nihilist as FUCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993478
looks like the kid who cheated wins at life

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993460
You take that back. Some things mattress.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993478
anyone who gets places cheat, honest work is stable but you'll never get anywhere at life, even hard workers know this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993485
NEETs don't go places.

[Not that guy No.]

>>8993475
>If a person is used to spend $5000/month, what would happened if he was suddenly forced to only have $500/month?

>Rich people are used to being rich!!! You can't take their money away!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993496
They're more happy than you, and they don't even have to work. I don't see how that isn't success.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does it bother anyone that some people don't want to work? There are people in this world who wander about, living off the generosity of others, whether they're monks, missionaries, or average joes.

You're happy to work or go to school? Good. Some just want to take it easy. If you're unhappy, you could become a NEET or if you are one, get a job or go to school. If you've got a problem with people "gaming" the system, how about making use of that voting and "voice of the people" shit? It's in your hands.

[Anonymous No.]

When I got back from Chechnya I found out that my father had died, my brother had fled to america, and my mother had built a dear reader style shrine to long dead figureheads in our sitting room.

At first I felt guilty for coming back home, due to how bad things were. But being home actually did my mother a lot of good. I won't say that's what kept me there, becuase after all I was a lazy directionless piece of shit.

Now, if I even mention my being a burden she just goes on about the war, and forbids the idea of me straining myself. Feels pretty guilty NEET, eating up her pension. But at the same time, I don't really want to leave either, and I don't think she wants me to either. Guess I'll just walk in front of a train when she dies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993505
Reading /so/ most NEETs sound like a extremely depressed bunch of people.

[Anonymous No.]

kiss my ass normies

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is an eyesore.

[Anonymous No.]

THAT CHAIR WHEN HIKKYBURGERS NEAR MY BOARD

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993512
>Why does it bother anyone that some people don't want to work?
Because they work and they get mad when other people don't have to sacrifice half of their waking hours to do the same. Just getting mad about it isn't going to influence anyone though, so they try all the reverse psychology peer pressure tricks their life amongst their fellow normals have taught them. If they don't work, they've got little more to do than get a little madder and try again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993497
Sorry bro.
Unlike you, I have experiences in the real world.
The real world is dominated by bank.
Let me share something. When you decided to buy something to win at life, the first thing that they will do is to take a look at your salary slip.
With that, you are on your way to be enslaved by the system. Everything you do will be tied to your month salary.
Lets say your earn $5000, you will end up paying maybe $4000 for your bills and daily necessity.
Now guess what happened if you lose your job?
Lets turn the question around again, if you arent spending $4000/month why the fuck are you working in the first place? Just be a NEET and live without these so called luxuries.
Time can never be bought. I guess normalfags will never understand this concept. I really feel for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993521
/soc/? They are falseNEETs, normals who are uncomfortable with their life. Of course they are depressed, they are way happier as truNORMALs.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/-People in their early 20's know all about life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993540
Why do NEETs act as if they have the world figured out yet are extremely closed minded when it comes to other people and like to makeup bullshit as if they are some sort of trained psychologist?

[Anonymous No.]

What if I work at home?

I sell flash games and live in a studio apartment. I never have to go outside, it's fun, I can work whenever I want, and I barely work more than a few hours a week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993549
>/soc/
I said /so/, you dumb fuck. Learn to read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993563
I am a very serious person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993561
because they're smarter than you

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993561
Why are you taking anything in this thread remotely seriously?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993559
Oh, so you're /a/ scum then. Big difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993561

No one wants to work. It's a form of torture.

If you don't have to work then it's something to be envied. Anyone who says otherwise is just in denial.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993561
They probably are smarter than your average normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>implying you have to respect anyone's choice

American bullshit, the same kind as ostensibly respecting creationists. If someone's being a tard, damn say it and don't accept objections. You don't do it, that's why your nation is dying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993561
>closed minded

Says the guy who thinks happiness can only be achieved by wasting a good portion of your life being a slave

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993552
They know a hell of a lot more than the 30+ old nerds who put their faith in the normal system and now have no choice but to proceed along that road due to their crippling financial and familial responsibilities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993578
>let me just prove your point for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993576

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993478

Well, if he cheated and got away with it.
Props to the guy.
He had the smarts and the balls to cheat, and did better than the guy who didn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993605
You can give as many props to they guy as you want he still can't claim he is smarter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993593
/jp/-People in their early 20's know all about life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993540

There's no point in getting angry. When I worked at a shitty job for a while, I would joke to myself that I have to work harder to support all of the NEETs.

Getting mad at NEETs who you have no personal relationship with is like getting mad at people who don't vote. The difference is that people who don't vote are well within their ability to laugh and criticize at the voters to put in assholes only to complain about them, while the NEETs are within their ability to live off the labor of the working class while the normals fume despite supposedly having the power to put an end to that.

Utterly pointless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993614
Relative, fact is if he got away with it, in the eyes of this system you hold so dear, he WAS smarter. This works with just about anything, anyone who gets high up in life did NOT do it through honesty and hard work

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993559
/so/ scums are /a/ rejects.
They arent NEETs, they are failures that fail at life and couldnt beat the system. They long for normal lifes but couldnt even get into any social circle and are too stupid to even graduate from high school. They are unable to cheat the welfare system and are maybe sadly born into a shithole family.
This is a big dog eat small dog world, if you cant cut it out in the real world you lose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993478

>saying he's smarter

See, this is the part that doesn't matter.

Who gives a shit? It's just status. The end result is all that matters and in this case he got a 100 and the other guy got a 95.

As far as NEETs go though, NEETs beat the system and don't have to work and normals have to work. That's all there is to it. A NEET lives a superior live simply because he does not have to endure the suffering that comes from work.

This is a very simple concept. If most humans on the planet were enslaved and beaten every day, but I managed to find some way around this and lived a life of pleasure and relaxation then how could you say that the other life is better?

Work = Bad. Not fun. Suffering.
Not working = Good. Fun. Not suffering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993658
Then change it

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993637
The main problem with this thought is only that living on this planet is not about "beating the system" but rather collaborating to improve our living conditions together. American medical professionals may be greedy bastards, but in my country as far as I know doctors they for example go to work because they feel they're doing something meaningful. It seems you're stuck in a childlike state where you still think your parents have all the money in the world and can get you anything if you ask them the right way.

[None !/kYaUTGETs!!MLmQfQDqEsa No.]

>>8993641
/tc/ was made to surpass /a/. Study Chanology 101 nerd. I've written several textbooks on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993630
>in the eyes of this system you hold so dear

But I hate the system because it allows exactly this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993654
Tohno is the biggest normal circlejerk around.
But go on and tell yourself what you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993662
>feel that they're doing something meaningful
>feel

therein lies your flaw, someone who plays the system to live for themselves is just as valid as someone who works 10 hours 6 days a week from an objective standpoint, if the former doesn't succees then he wasn't doing something right, just as the latter, if the former manages to live with little trouble than he was successful, again just as the latter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993654
>>8993641
what's /tc/ and /so/?
I've only been here for 2 years.

[Anonymous No.]

It's pretty hard to get on welfare.

Besides, I want to be able to buy lots of dolls and figures in the future so I really have no choice. It' a matter of lifestyle I suppose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993662

>but rather collaborating to improve our living conditions together.

Why? I live for maybe 70 years if I'm lucky and then I die. I'm not wasting a second of that.

Fuck collaborating and improving your living conditions. I'm living fine, so why should I care about how everyone else is living?

>is only that living on this planet is not about

Living on this planet isn't about anything. You do whatever you want and then you die, but you can either have fun while you're alive or you can work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993675
http://tohno-chan.com/so/
falseNEETs that want to be normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993667
The Tohno I knew wasn't a normal, why would his chan turn into that?

I've never really held an interest in boards other than 4chan, though. My friends are here, and jones might dox and botnet me somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993680
Again, it's not about the "system" because there is no omnipotent "system", just people. If everyone stayed home there wouldn't be anything. You're not objectively "winning" anything by staying home either and the thought is very self-centered and child-like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993690
You wouldn't live to be 70 if everyone tried to "beat the system" and nobody worked. Is that somehow non-obvious?

[Anonymous No.]

I would actually love to contribute to society if there was something I could do that contributes and I enjoy doing.
A doctor for example, obviously has a passion for healthcare and medicine and his job gives back to the community.
My passion is gaming and music and there is very few outlets to give something back to society in that medium.

I'm not going to do something I hate out of a misguided obligation to give back to the community.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993689

>It's pretty hard to get on welfare.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6DlFehh0SQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993540
Here it is: the thing that a NEET values most of all is free time. This is the only way a NEET can claim to be superior to a normal, because they have figured out a way to live life in a way that generates maximum free time. However humans naturally don't have a large amount of free time because there are things that one must do in order to survive in any sort of system.

So in order to create free time one must work so that one can have free time. Therefore work is more valuable than free time because free time cannot create more free time, only work can. A NEET however, exploits the fact that the fruits of work is transferable. In other words one man's work can fulfill the need for another man to work. A NEET does not create the free time he values so much, rather someone else creates it for him.

In other words a NEET is like a dragon who hoards the gold of others, while a person who works is like a goose who lays the golden eggs. If you know anything about fairy tales then you know which one is valued more and which one is slain.

I could elaborate more but I don't want to waste my free time arguing with others who won't even put in time for themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't want to work to give 25% of my hard-earned money to shaneeqa and her 14 kids and 25% to pay for retarded zionist conflicts I don't give a shit about. I also don't want some fat fuck "job creator" making millions off my work so he can buy himself another ferrari and fuck 3 whores at once. I refuse to take part in such a shitty system.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993695
the thought that people are supposed to do something a certain was is terribly narrow-minded. Like I said before, you think that success and happiness mean working and earning money honestly, I think success and happiness are living my life the way I want with plenty of time to myself

Its all about your own perception, which is why this argument is pointless. We'll both go on thinking the other is in the wrong or whatnot, and both AND neither of us are right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993700
>If you know anything about fairy tales then you know which one is valued more and which one is slain.
I thought you were on the side of NEETs before you got to this sentence.

I don't think you quite understand. This isn't about NEETs being noble or upstanding people, this is about whether or not they're living the good life. Clearly, that's the dragon. (who's supposed to come along and slay the NEET in this analogy?) The goose laying eggs also plays down the part about that egg-laying being extremely painful and time-consuming. The goose isn't having fun, it doesn't matter how much people value it. Of course people like hard workers and despise people who don't have to work, that's why all the normals like you are so angry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993698
Yes, for me it is. I don't qualify for anything and as awkward as I am, I still pass mental tests and stuff. I seem to activate defense mechanisms of some kind because I swear I am a retard when I am indoors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993363
congrats on the marriage

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993715
All it takes is a little common sense. You could say raising children is painful, but if nobody did it there would be nobody left to enjoy anything. Same goes for all fruits of labor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993695
>>8993706
>>8993700

>If everyone stayed home there wouldn't be anything.

I don't base my life decisions on hypothetical situations.

You can. Hell, I encourage you to. You, along with most other people, will slave away for most of your life and by doing so you allow me to live in comfort as a NEET that leeches off the government.

I don't care if I'm "the dragon that hoards other people's gold" because the end result is that I have the gold. Even better though, I got the gold with almost no effort because it was given to my by people who had to work hard to get it.

Why is this not something to be happy about? All the rewards and none of the trouble.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993722
Your argument would hold more value if NEETs couldn't actually live the way they do because of this system. Perhaps some 200 years and further back, but there's a way to live without working and so it is only natural that someone will exploit it. If you're going to say they're wrong for it, you should be working to stop it rather than complaining at them about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993722
The main problem is you're confusing activity with complete inactivity. You're acting like if people don't work they just stop breathing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993722
And if nobody did there would be nobody left to suffer, either.

Being grateful that people raise kids is like being grateful that you yourself were born and raised. This is something normals often tell people to be grateful for because their system that is perpetually in motion without going anywhere depends on it, but it's nonsensical. You can't make a pro or a con out of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993728
/thread

Thanks for the gold, normies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993724
Of course I'm not saying anything about whether or not the goose has any more fun than the dragon. Of course the dragon is much happier than the goose because it gets to sit around and do nothing.

My post was not made to convince NEETs that they shouldn't be happy. Be as happy as you want I don't care. However my post was directed at the people who claim that NEETs are superior to those who work. Even in their own value system that is not true and it just sounds like a defense mechanism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993710

[Anonymous No.]

I-I want to be a dragon.

But the gubmint won't give me free money no matter how many times I try. But on the other hand... >>8993698

How did that guy get on welfare? Is it because he's black and has kids?

It make me sad when I see that and then see homeless people. I'd like to help them but I can't even help myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993742
>non-sequitur

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993742
His post sounded more like a NEET /pol/ posting justifying why he doesn't work than your average /jp/sy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993740
Even with your analogy, a dragon is definitely superior to the goose.
The goose is a tool and will be exploited.
I am not seeing how the dragon IS NOT superior.
Can perhaps please elaborate?
I guess you are trying to say that without goose there wouldnt be a dragon with gold?
Lets say there isnt a goose, the dragon will still find another way to achieve the same thing.
The dragon adapt, the goose cant. They die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993735
If people don't work, most of the things you NEETs require to live comfortably wouldn't exist. Now I personally am not even mad, I like working, get a good salary and feel like I'm actually doing something important with my life, and I imagine my quality of life is much better than yours. I'm just trying to figure out whether you're just trying to be provocative or your psychology is actually knotted enough that you imagine "beating the system" means a victory of some sort over some inanimate thing, like beating an exam, rather than being a drain on other people who are fundamentally the same as you. If so, something is definitely wrong with your personality structure and there's definitely no point being mad at people who can't help themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993740

>However my post was directed at the people who claim that NEETs are superior to those who work

They are superior because they're happier. That's the only thing in life that actually has any real value, everything else is just bullshit. If you aren't happy then else matters and if you're working for a huge percentage of your life then that takes away from the time that you could have spent being happy.

It's as simple as that. Happiness trumps everything else. You can have all the social status and respect that you want, but if you aren't happy then it's worthless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993740
Defence mechanisms eh? You can't say we're the only ones with that, can you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993757
But studies show that people who are more respected and have more money are happier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993756
Where are we going with this again? Fact is people do work thinking they're doing something important with their lives, living with a higher quality in whatever remainder is left after working or sleeping, all the while a bit of that money goes to people who don't feel that working is what will make them happy. This is reality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993763
>high status high income earners are happier than low status low income earners

Wouldn't doubt that.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do normies get mad at NEET's who are content to live on very little and spend a few of their tax dolla's.
Shouldn't you guys really be mad at the rich billionaires that horde huge amounts of cash and always want more.
Most of them do fuck except push a few papers around and benefit from hard worker bee's.
They are way bigger leeches than any NEET will ever be.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't take it easy and go to sleep when there's a fast thread on /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993763
Read
>>8992580
>>8992580

[Anonymous No.]

It doesn't matter what we do with our lives, we're all narrow-minded retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993757
What evidence is there that most are happier with their lives? What evidence do you have to show that most people with jobs are unhappy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993753
In the analogy gold can only be made by the goose, since gold represents free time and the goose works to create it. The goose is only exploited by the dragon but the dragon cannot make its own gold, it requires the goose to make it for it. In other words the goose is more valuable because it makes what both the goose and the dragon value. Without the goose there would be no gold, without the dragon there would be more gold for the goose.

>>8993757
But a NEET doesn't even create his own happiness, he needs other to create it for him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993772
You seem to be implying that you can't get mad at both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993779
>But a NEET doesn't even create his own happiness, he needs other to create it for him.
Yes, and?

[Anonymous No.]

You see, the wrong thing with the goose-dragon anaglogy is that being a goose is fucking gay. Who the fuck wants to be a goose when you can be a dragon?

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>>8993770
We don't need to go anywhere further, but you shouldn't deflect either. In Western society having a developed conscience and sense of empathy are elements of psychological maturity. If you don't have them, obviously you will be like a cat, fundamentally a preferential parasite. What I'm curious about is whether it's so or not.

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>>8993783
In my system of values someone who can create their own happiness is superior. Of course it might be different for you but then we get into some bullshit relativism that wont get either of us anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

There are assholes in this world that will cheat the system and their workers for more money. Assholes that are voted in who will support these people, send citizens to war for these people, benefit personally off of these people.

And normals get angry that some lazy faggot gets a measley check every month to live?

You can stop it. Enough of you can get together and stop it.

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>>8993781

So normies are are just buttmad at everyone is isn't a normie.
Okay then!

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>>8993763

>But studies show that people who are more respected and have more money are happier.

Money doesn't make you happier, it's the things that you buy with the money that makes you happier. The problem with wealth is that there's very few things that are actually enjoyable and expensive. The most expensive things in the world are just hollow luxuries that bring no long-term happiness. Why would I need a mansion when I have an apartment? What's the difference? My computer and bed will fit in either.

I know every single one of my hobbies is fairly inexpensive. You could give me a million dollars and I would have almost nothing to spend it on because I pirate most of my things and everything else is just unappealing to me.

As far as respect though, that's just a worthless normal concept. It's pathetic to need validation from other people to feel happy.

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>>8993790
Housing for life is already really expensive. That's a huge chunk out of a million even in the cheapest places of a first world country.

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>>8993784
If you feel that considering me inferior and slapping labels to make yourself more comfortable, have at you then.

Fact is NEETs and their way of earning money is just as valid as people who work 10 hours a day, it is only your perception and opinions that say that the former is not.

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>>8993779

>But a NEET doesn't even create his own happiness, he needs other to create it for him.

Why does this matter?

Happiness is happiness. I've never understood people who always feel this crazy need to "earn" everything through hard work and suffering. It's like you don't want the reward unless you had to suffer enough in exchange for it.

I don't give a shit how I get something. All I care about is that I have it and if that means that someone else gives me the funds to live a life of happiness then that just means less work for me.

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>>8993794
Things have labels if things are different, it's simple as that. You're awfully defensive, so I assume there's more to it for you.

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>>8993799
Is this going to devolve in to a mud-slinging fit? I'm givine you points and you're attacking my apparent maturity, it ironically brings your own maturity in to question.

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>>8993772
No idea.
The normies are pretty stupid imo.
Sure I am not be happy at all the CEO or wall street bankers just sitting in their office collecting tons of cash.
But the reason for that is I know I could be happier if I have their free time and the amount of cash that they have. I do however respect them that they can exploit the system to achieve their goal.
The normalfags slave however, I laugh at them. They will be forever slave to the system. They strived to be the rich fuck at the top but they will never achieve it.
While the NEET might not be like those rich fuckers but at the end of the day, what they have is free time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993811
15

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>>8993811
.* < 21

[Anonymous No.]

I want to know the age of every single person who's posted in this thread.

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>>8993802
>Why does this matter?

Why does anything matter? Because people make things matter. Hey maybe working to earn something makes some people happy, just like sitting around doing nothing makes you happy. Are they then wrong for thinking that way?

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>>8993806
It's not. I don't feel like I've been particularly confrontational towards you. That's why I said I get the feeling you're defensive, because it seems to me your replies are emotionally "out of proportion" in a way.

You can't really give a description of life which revolves around a concept of happiness that fundamentally originates from the efforts of other people with no desire for reciprocity without stating in a way that you have no conscience as it's usually understood.

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It's a status symbol, alright. A symbol of low status.

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>>8993811
Don't worry anon, you can imagine all the NEETs as 16 year olds and all the hard workers as 25 and up if it makes you feel any better.

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>creating happiness

What the fuck is this guy going on about? Happiness isn't something that is created.

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>>8993811

28

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So the basic summary of this whole thing is just:

>NEET: "I'm leeching off you and I don't have to work a day in my life. Feels good."
>Normal: "THAT'S NOT FAIR. YOU SHOULDN'T BE HAPPY. THAT'S NOT FAIR."

Keep whining, normies. I'm off to collect my autismbux.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993808
>The normalfags slave however, I laugh at them. They will be forever slave to the system.
your parents, you mean?

lol

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>>8993820
You're fucking retarded or trolling.

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>>8993819
How old are you then?

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>>8993831
Hey dude, I want 2 happiness. Can you create some for me?

[Anonymous No.]

Entitled little babies the lot of you are.

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>>8993817
You're right, I can't. I know that in leeching off of others that I hold no consideration for what they think. I don't particularly care, but trying to call me immature for it is downright narrowminded, everyone develops in different ways, maybe just my empathy center didn't receive too many points, so I'm behind in that particular area, doesn't really mean I'm immatire overall as you tend to think.

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>>8993833
Still can't tell if retarded or trolling.

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>>8993815

>Hey maybe working to earn something makes some people happy

If this was true then why is there retirement? Why does everyone look forward to their weekends so much and why do people on their deathbed wish that they hadn't worked so hard? Why is that you can't go 10 minutes without hearing some working class person complain about their hours or complain about how they dislike their job?

I'm sure there are a handful of masochists out there who love to work and more power to them, but most people don't and that's just how it is. Work is not fun for the vast majority of the world and only the rewards of their work make them happy.

NEETs get the rewards without the work.

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>>8993837
That's because ur stupid

[Anonymous No.]

NEET- Content to live on little, values free time, probably the happiest and most humble of the bunch

Normie - wants good stuff, but also wants free time, gets mad because can't have both

Wallstreet Jew - Lot's of money and free time but not content with it, always wants MORE MONEY AND POWER.

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>>8993838
Notice how I didn't say working makes some people happy I said working to earn something makes some people happy. They might not like to work but they like putting in effort and receiving a reward, rather than just being handed stuff and feeling like a worthless piece of shit. I don't mean that offensively I just mean that's how some people feel.

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>>8993824
My parents are businessman.
They are actually already at retirement age.
I always tell them to retire and stop working but alas, I cant help it if they think running their own shop as a way to kill them is nice. Cant help it, they cant use the internet and havent found the way to kill time.
I am happy though, they paid for my education and I am happy now and have tons of free time.
I wont trade my life for yours.

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I love how normals just resort to whining and insults at the end of these threads.

Go on and call me a baby or a leech as much as you want. I'll be in my pajamas counting my autism dollars and playing video games while you're at work.

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>>8993836
But it is immature spp, because in what is considered normal psychological development you eventually develop a sense of consideration and empathy for others and become a resource for them as you mature into adulthood. That's what creates our fundamental social structure of dependents and their caregivers where the dependents are usually minors or those with disability. It's just a label like you said, but it is the correct label here.

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>>8993844
>makes a post about how everyone is wrong except himself
>most humble of the bunch
Haha, don't worry, I'm perfectly fine with you cashing in your social security cheques.
After all, it was created for retards to begin with.

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People are just bullshitting themselves. They all talk about how important it is to contribute to society, but do they really believe in it themselves? Everyone who has a job appreciate the days they don't have to work the most. Hell, a recent example where I come from is that two holidays will fall on the same day this year, meaning people will only get one day off instead of two. This is genuinely pissing people off, they're actually enraged over it. That's how important days off are to them. I won't even go into how common it is to want to retire early.

People try justifying having a job with some bullshit about fulfilling dreams and ambitions. This might sound nice to innocent students with stars in their eyes, thinking the perfect world is out there for them to grab with the right education, but it's just more bullshit. When you ask people about their dream, about what they're truly passionate about, assuming they have something at all, they won't talk about their job. Very, very few people feel that way about their job. Most people will tell you about their hobbies, the stuff they spent time on before they got a job, but that they don't have enough time and energy for with all the hard work they have to do.

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>>8993858

>I'm perfectly fine with you cashing in your social security cheques

Cool, then there's no problem, you have a nice day at work now.

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>>8993848

>and feeling like a worthless piece of shit

I'm sure glad that I didn't have crazy Quaker parents that instilled that kind of bullshit into me.

You only feel like a worthless piece of shit for getting handouts if you've been taught to feel like a worthless piece of shit for getting something you didn't work for.

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>>8993863


And then there's the whole thing about giving back to society. Who the fuck cares? No one would get a job purely because they feel they owe something to society. It's after they get a job that they start over-emphasizing how important this is so they can feel like they're good people.

And they reinforce all this bullshit by antagonizing NEETs, the antithesis to all they believe in. They tell themselves we're worthless since we don't pursue our ambitions through work, that we're immoral because we don't have a problem with taking more than we give back, and that we're just plain unhygienic and unsociable, the lowest of the low, the kind of people no one wants to be like. It doesn't matter to them whether or not it's true, just having that image helps them steer away from us and stick to their bullshit.

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>>8993855
If that's what you want to think, so far the trend has been negative, I care less and less about people and being around them becomes more and more annoying, oh goodness perhaps I'm regressing in this magical maturity that means everything in the world, perhaps? Oh well that's not a problem in the slightest, call me immature as much as you want but nothing here has changed really, you work and pay taxes, you're happy, I spend my time how I want and get a portion of those taxes, I'm happy. No one is wrong in the end, no one is superior to the other.

and by the way, its normal psychological development that includes empathy, its not so much that I'm "behind" as I branched from it. This is by no means a declaration of superiority, but you really need to get out of your habits of putting such trust in narrow definitions.

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>>8993863
>>8993866
see
>>8993561

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>>8993870
And I'm sure glad that when I purchase something with my own money I didn't have to use mommy's money and she can spend her own money on something that makes her happy because I have empathy for other humans.

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>>8993879
I'm sure glad that I'm spending your taxes rather than my mother's money.

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>>8993869
Nah, I NEET. No need to be a normalfag to point out the sheer hypocrisy of your post.

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>>8993885
Replace mommy with whatever and it works for all NEETs.

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>>8993874
I didn't really say maturity means everything in the world, or the rest of those things you thought I was implying. Again. You're maybe sort of letting out more than you're meaning to.

It's acceptable to not be normal. Not in America, but in other parts of the world yes. But if you don't feel like you can contribute anything meaningful, that's something that you might want to analyse more.

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>>8993879

I'm glad that you feel that way too.

It's people like you that allow people like me to live off the government. Empathy sure is great.

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>>8993905
I have no empathy for people like you.

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>>8993863
>>8993866
No need to continue the thread past these posts, or any of the elaborate proNEET posts that said similar things before them, but the normals will keep it going with one-liners about NEETs being angsty teens.

I don't think there are really normals here, they're just NEETs trolling.

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>>8993897
What requirement is there that I need to contribute? There's plenty already doing so and they're perfectly fine with letting me do what I want without working.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993913

Well, you're still paying your taxes so that means I'm still getting my autism bux.

Thanks for giving me part of your paycheck!

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>>8993913
No but you pay taxes and that's just as good.

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>>8993913
That's okay. It seems that enough people still do to keep the cheques coming.

I hope you don't think I care. You can be proud of your empathy all you want, but you'd be much happier if you were selfish like me. Nobody's your friend when it comes to money, anyway.

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Arguing with a NEET is a pointless endeavor when they use a nihilistic worldview to justify anything they want and demonize anything they want. Its an endless game of "I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG BUT I CAN'T PROVE IT!"

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>>8993912
Wanting to contribute and to "actualize" oneself is a basic human desire. There are people who don't feel it and live happy lives, especially in cluster A personality disorders. The main question is whether you don't feel it because you don't feel it or because of anxiety/depression/lack of opportunity.

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>>8993918
>>8993921
>>8993924
Guess I'm voting Republican next election!

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>>8993894
You sounding awfully normal fag to me.
Why else would a post claiming NEET's are content rustle your jimmies.

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>>8993929
I don't feel it, never have. I have no ambition, I don't like people and as a result they don't like me which turns it in to a downward spiral in relations between me and people. I don't mind.

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Oh, this is so pathetic, I can't watch anymore.

>>8993913
PROTIP: You need to start realizing when you're getting trolled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993935
I'm shaking in my boots, really I am.

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>>8993938
Probably /so/ scums that think of themselves as failure.

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>>8993935

>Republican
>2012 election

HAHAHAHAHA

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>>8993943
I can't be trolled because I believe they sincerely believe what they say.

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>>8993927

And all worker bees can do is guilt trip. None of it matters in the face of people who are comfortable living off the work of others. Might as well get over it.

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>>8993959
You sincerely believe they sincerely believe what they say

Works for me.

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>>8993942
If that's really how you feel, then okay. The reasonable people debating this issue are concerned because it's known many people who become socially marginalized are very depressed and/or anxious, and "lost" workers. But as for cluster A types, I know a guy like that who lived to his 50s with his mother doing nothing in particular. There was absolutely nothing you could do to make him do anything, and he was happy. He's not a "lost" worker, he's more like a pet of humanity, and there's no need to be frustrated about his case in my opinion. So you see, happy ending.

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>>8993938
Hypocrisy and stupidity rustles my jimmies. Especially when it comes from those who claim to represent my lifestyle.

>You sounding awfully normal fag to me.
Hope you've got better rebuttals than that, bro.

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>>8993927
The nihilistic worldview is the obvious counter to the normalfag logic of "this is what a human SHOULD do, this is what a life SHOULD be".

What else do you want? Do you want nilhistic logic to be banned because you get angry and imagine the person using it against you is 16 and wearing all black? I'm sorry you're not able to force your ideas of inherent meaning and direction in life down other people's throats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993976
Yup, we'll both have fun doing what we do, and belittling the other for it, it can't be helped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993981
It is not our fault you are unhappy or content with your life as a NEET.
Back to >>>/soc/ or >>>/r9k/ where you can continue whining how sad it is to be NEET.
You are a disgrace, please return the NEET badge before leaving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993985
I'm done. You people just can't seem to get it.

[Anonymous No.]

SUCK MY DICK, YOU NEET FAGGOTS

NIHISLMSI YOU CUNTS

TEEENAGERS SO EDGY
SO EDGY
SO FUCKING EDGY

YOU GODDAMN FUCKING LEECH PIECE OF SHIT BABY I WIS H I COULD STRANGER YOUR FUCKING THROAT YOU BETTER HIDE IN YOUR MOTHER'S BASEMENT YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT BECAUSE IF I SEE YOU THEN YOU KNOW THAT "NORMY" IS BRINGING THE PAIN AND YOU'RE DONE FUCKERED

[Anonymous No.]

>>8994002
Don't let the door hit your tender butt too hard on the way out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8994002

Get what? Stop trying to convert people over the internet who don't care. Life's easier that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8993994
No, this is a misunderstanding. I'm perfectly happy being NEET. I just don't like being represented by idiots whose piss-poor arguments have more holes than swiss cheese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8994019

What's wrong with their arguments?

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>>8994002
About time. Might be a bit late to say this, but most of the Anons you were arguing against only came here to troll you because you made yourself an easy target.

Let this be a lesson for the future.

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>>8993987
The belittling probably can be helped. But at this time we live in such a situation people don't have to work in order to not die. If there was a hikky "movement" that would change, but there never will be because ordinary people feel the need to gain resources, esteem, and to leave their mark on the world, no matter how tiny. It's one of the forces that fundamentally drives us. However, when you work in psychiatry you learn that there can be abnormalities of any system, and one of those systems is the one dealing with motivation. There are also people who don't feel this need, who will live their life doing nothing, never having relationships and still be happy. Whereas for a normal person never having a relationship is a horrible prospect, for them it's the natural state. The main problem is when they for some reason lose their access to funds, in which case they easily become homeless drifters. However, all in all it's just another type of person and indeed, in the absence of conventional motivation working holds no interest. You can imagine the space explorers of fiction would probably rather stay on earth if they didn't think space holds anything of interest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8994042
Just the usual generally contradictory bullshit, like claiming to look down on normalfags who are slaves to the system but then turning around and praising their parents or benefactors, who are usually the very same normalfags. Otherwise, putting on airs of being satisfied, humble, satisfied and enlightened to the trappings of society, but then write paragraph after vitriol-laced paragraph about how everyone else is wrong or a tool for not having reached the same conclusions about life. Shit like that.

There are a lot of intelligent arguments to make about NEET living, but those definitely aren't.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>8994119
>praising their parents or benefactors
They aren't subjected to NEET is BAD, Fucking LEECHERS AND SCUM of earth by their own parent.
If the normalfags didnt come here, nobody would even care to gloat.

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>>8994127

That's a wonderful picture

[Anonymous No.]

Interesting thread, only a few people really had any good points because of all the trolling but interesting none the less.

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>>8994198

What were your favorite posts?

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>>8993786
has anyone really been far even etc.

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>>8994160
>>8994127
but Suigin has left...

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>>8993706
Actually, if everyone did actively protest the system and stopped going to work, it would open up an opportunity to build a better system that is actually fair and people somehow have motivation to get up in the morning.

Sure, there might be a few years of turbulence at first, but the world is going in that direction anyway. Capitalism has just a few years left, and we're going to break through it whether it be by force or gradual change.

[Anonymous No.]

Early humans encouraged NEETs because they thought of work as fun and if you declined going out for the hunt then that just meant you were missing out on fun. You still got your share of the food and everyone was happy.

>http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/freedom-learn/200907/play-makes-us-human-v-why-hunter-gather
ers-work-is-play

[Anonymous No.]

>>8994447
This is really great.

We're eventually going to get there - 75% of all jobs can already be mechanized today. Technology lets us do so much, and yet, look at the what's happening. I hope this greed passes soon and we enter the age of a socialist utopia.

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>>8994447
Not gonna lie, going out and slaughtering animals is pretty damn fun.
My grampa in Louisiana took me duck, deer, and boar hunting many times, I loved it.
Sitting at a desk is way different from going out and killing animals though.