/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Is this you in 10 years?

>Speaking as a 29 year old hiki, I get a little bit angry when I hear 19-22 year olds making posts like "Oh I'm so old, I've been a hiki for 2 years, my life is over!". 19-22 is still young, being a hiki for 2 years is nothing. I've been one for 10 years! It's still OK to never have had a job at that age, especially in the current economic downturn.

>I always had a distorted sense of my own age anyway, due to looking young for my age. But I think it was at the age 27-28 when I first started feeling old. I think that is the transitory age. Now that I'm 29, I think I've kind of given up on life. Now I just feel a kind of folorn emptyness. You can't feel so much anxiety when you've stopped caring. The other older posters on here have also mentioned it, so when OP asks where he will be in 10 years time, the answer will be that he won't care so much anymore when he's 30.

>One of the reasons why I don't leave the house is because I'm so scared of seeing someone from school and they ask me what I've done since leaving school. I'm so ashamed of my life. I've been so stupid. It's like I locked myself in a prison of shame.

[Anonymous No.]

Joke's on you, I'm already 28.

[Anonymous No.]

29 here, working at walmart.
I'll feel so ashamed if I see any of my IT classmates

[Anonymous No.]

I agree that it is perfectly fine to be a NEET at that age and during these times. However, I also think unemployed youth should spend at least some of their free time reading about socialism and discussing it with others. It doesn't have to be like this.

[Anonymous No.]

Probably

[Anonymous No.]

Hopefully not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>The numbers 20, 25, and 30 are terrifying age marks to me
>25 was nothing, it passed without comment. For me, 28 really felt like the big turning point. At the age of 26 for example, 23 was just 3 years ago, and 3 years is nothing and 23 is still young. So I could still fool myself that I was still young and still had lots of time. But at 28, you are starting to be 10 years older than the 18 year olds, and your clothes you wear are now a decade out of fashion and the world has all moved on. You play on a Playstation 2, but everyone else is now on a Playstation 3. Websites stop working because their new designs are too much for your 10 year old computer. And you can't get a new computer, because to do so would be to admit to the passing of time. You increasingly feel that you are no longer part of this world. You can never re-join the normal people now. You are too cut off and you don't even want to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953249

Get the fuck out of /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953236
Pffhahaha, well played.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953253

[Anonymous No.]

No, I wouldn't talk about it being "okay to not have a job" when I'm talking about people claiming to be a hiki.

It's not "right" to be petrified of leaving the house or talking to even your own immediate family regardless of age.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953253
i want to hold you and tell you that everything is okay anon-san

[Anonymous No.]

I'm 23 and I've been a hiki since I was 15. This guy can suck my cock.

[Anonymous No.]

Jokes on you.
You lose when you work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953230
It's me last year. Although the odd feeling only happened this year.

[naitoknaito No.]

>>8953295
You lose what?

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>8953230
28 is the big turning point IMO. You're pretty much a big baby until you're 30 anyways. That's when things get good. Treat it as a new beginning rather than as an end to everything.

>>One of the reasons why I don't leave the house is because I'm so scared of seeing someone from school and they ask me what I've done since leaving school.

Can't that guy just BS and lie or something? Who cares about people from school that you weren't even friends with anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953306
the game XD

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953311
>You're pretty much a big baby until you're 30 anyways
Americans.

[Anonymous No.]

>bawww I sit on my ass for years doing nothing and now I feel worthless

You and your first world problems can get bent. Get a job and get a sense of accomplishment or learn to be content and happy with the precious option of staying at home all day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953246
Sounds like boring shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>One of the reasons why I don't leave the house is because I'm so scared of seeing someone from school and they ask me what I've done since leaving school. I'm so ashamed of my life. I've been so stupid. It's like I locked myself in a prison of shame.

I used to be like this, but it's been 5 years since I left school and I haven't run into anyone. Well I have but they either don't recognize me, or it's just a quick greeting. A lot of the people I knew from school moved away anyway.

>>8953311
I can imagine the older you get the more awkward it would be when you run into friends from school. Some of them would be married and have kids already. You can bullshit but you still get that shitty feeling after.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

Stay inside all day because you're ashamed of staying inside all day.

Wonderful plan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953232
This. Also I still look and feel young. I could date teens if I gave a fuck about them.

I don't really care. I AM young. It's the Japanese who think your life ends at 25 or something. I can feel old when I'm 40 and 1990s really were 30 years ago. I'm not a hikki though and I've had lots of interesting experiences, but nothing extreme.

I feel out of touch with what young people listen to and watch nowadays, but that's due as much to the fact that I gave up radio, movies, and TV in favor of internet since about 5 years ago. I can't really even relate to people around my age. As for fashion, it's still t-shirts and jeans, same as the 1980s, same as the 2020s.

The only thing I regret is being too old to /ss/. I can't even MILF because they're almost my age. ;_;

BTW, go take a college class if you're feeling down. You won't be able to tell if your classmates are younger or older than you if you're in your 20s. You might be surprised.

[Anonymous No.]

TruNEETs can't take it easy, but I'm glad they'v found a way to feel superior to others, that's all what matters. Congrats!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953230
Weak youngling, I'm 37.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953345
>I can imagine the older you get the more awkward it would be when you run into friends from school. Some of them would be married and have kids already. You can bullshit but you still get that shitty feeling after.

That feel when you realize that cute young girl you remember having a crush on as a freshman is a 30 year old hag nowadays. so is that girl who had a crush on you

[Anonymous No.]

What? I'm 30, still browsing /jp/ and still into manga/touhou/japanese shit and i'm pretty happy with my life.
Actually the more i'm getting older, the more i'm finding hapiness in several little things that just escaped my mind before because I was too busy thinking like a youngster.

Last day again while listening to some of Zun's compositions, I felt a huge amount of hapiness, I wonder why? This has never happened to me before.

Of course, getting a woman is supposed to be the next step in my life but I wonder again. Being surrounded only by 2D girls isn't that bad after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953376
Ew I bet you have old man stink already

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953230
Last part hit me hard...24 year old NEET and constantly avoid major public places like Walmart/etc because don't want to take a chance to see old friends in high school

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953230
>I'm so ashamed of my life.
>I've been one for 10 years!
Seems more like pride than shame. Fuck him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953236
I'd rather be a 29 year old NEET than a 29 year old doomed to walmart slavery

Didn't the ancient greeks or something didn't consider someone an adult until 30. Modern times have a severe lack of taking it easy. People are expected to jump into college and jump out prepared for a life of 60+ hour workweeks and no fun at all.
It's disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

Archwizard!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953376
>>8953418

[Anonymous No.]

Who are you quoting, OP? Serious question.

[Anonymous No.]

>Is this you in 10 years?

OP-quote probably has clinical depression. This is nothing special or even unique to being a hikki. It's painfully common and can be found everywhere in life, in any socioeconomic bracket, and even in places where people should have a grand outlook on life.

Normally though, when you get older, you'll realize something that is utterly crucial to enjoying life: No one actually cares about what you do except the people closest to you. People don't have time to worry about that many other people.

Meet someone from highschool? Just say you're working at x (it doesn't even matter what x is) and then immediately ask what they're doing. They won't give a shit about what you're actually doing in life three seconds later, and they'll probably forget almost everything you said by the next day. Hell, just say you're out of a job currently and they'll say "Well, that sucks." and then they'll similarly forget in no time at all.

As you get older, your egocentric nature will wear off. They aren't all thinking about you. Most of them will largely forget you exist, presuming you wanted them too, after you leave their sight. Life is just plain awesome after this baby-mode egocentricity is gone.

I guess people with clinical depression can't be described like this though, I feel really sorry for those people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953420
A tohno-chan post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953426
Actually it's easier to just constantly act impatient, like you have somewhere to be but don't be awkward about. People tend to like you more if you seem like you're about to do something and spare 2 seconds for them plus you don't have to explain anything, no one really cares about what you actually do or are going to do, anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953413
Some people don't actually have the option of becoming a NEET, you see. In many cases, being a NEET up to 29 would have resulted in starvation somewhere along the line. But I didn't really expect any more out of some pseudo-intellectual dribble from a NEET who thinks he's figured life out from his parents' home.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953440
Figures where all these shit bloggers and depression and whining about why no I GF and so lonely come from.

All I can see is if you are not happy about it then change.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953282
I'm 16 and according to my therapist, hikki behaviour is impossible to withdraw from if you go through it for that long from an early age.

therapy doesn't help btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953456
life =\= constantly being butthurt about having to work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953460
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953456
People have been living in intergenerational family homes for thousands of years and still do in many countries. Why should I move out on my own just because it's the fashionable thing to do now in western countries?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953456

It was more of pitying the guy but whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953464
Thing is, they actually did something with their lives.
Like, y'know, not mooching off of their parents. They lived with them, sure, but didn't steal their livelihoods.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh look it's that thread again.
Normalfags complaining about life and self-important wannabe psychiatrist trying to help them.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not too fimilar with this board but I didn't realize that people who came here were soo much older then me.

I'm 20 and you guys make me feel great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953477
I'm always comforted knowing that no matter how much I fail someone on /jp/ has failed harder than I ever will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953488
Though it is still possible for you to fail as hard as they do.

Keep that in mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953477
>>8953488
You're both horrible.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>8953477
>>8953488
Probably says something about yourself though if the failures of others affect you in that particular way.

But I'm no psychologist. Just only worry about yourselves in the end, NEETs and non-NEETs.

[sage No.]

>2012
>OP still cares about what people think about him
>ISHYGDDT

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953498
Not as horrible as some though

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953498
You want to know something horrible?
I was molested a lot as a child by members of my family.
I'm a complete nut bar but I still manage to coup with the shit society gives me. All I'm saying it might seem like shit for you now being 30 and a fuck up but don't completely toss in the towel and give up living.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953230
>19-22 is still young, being a hiki for 2 years is nothing.
You know, If you are a failure in 22, you will probably be a failure in 29. I'm not seeing myself being fixed anytime soon, so yeah. He started the same way. I'm really not sure why he is bitching

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953523
He wasn't bitching, he was just answering a question. The original post is still up if you're interested.

[Anonymous No.]

19 year old hikki here

I just thought I'd share that after a long and confusing childhood I decided to pick up a guitar a month or so ago and have been taking a group guitar class. I have cut out social interaction completely and have spend most of my time in my room practicing my guitar. I think I'm starting to see some real results as my muscle memory gets better. I started this six weeks ago, and most of the first few weeks were spent fucking around on 4chan or playing the vidya and then bursts of practice to learn "x scale form by x day".

I'd say on average so far I've put in roughly two hours per day practicing, (spaced between takin' it easy and Japanese study, of course)

I think that if I start applying myself now I'll be able to be a musician in a year or two. I'd say I'm already good enough to qualify for being in a shitty punk band. And I think that if I can do something like this, then /jp/ can too, and you guys can use all the things you learned from the Japanese artists you listen to to make something beautiful.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been a hiki since I was 8 years old. Homeschooling rocks, get on my level.

[sage No.]

>>8953530
>>8953530
>>8953530
>>8953530
>>8953530
>>8953530

please read,

>>8953230

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953523
There have always been two types of NEET. One seems genuinely happy and content living a life with a dim future and minimal social interactions.

The other is pretty much the opposite in that they long first and foremost for social interaction. Most everything in their life is governed by their desire for interaction. Following that they would like a promising future, which usually means worrying about entering schooling or training of some sort eventually in the future. Finally, they're discontent with the labels society has put on them and would like to change their lives for the "better".

Disgusting people, that second group. They really are the lowest of the low. OP is in the second group

[Anonymous No.]

All of your hikki neet problems will be solved if you were a cute touhou girl living in gensokyo.

Though you will likely end up as an unnamed fairy and shot to death by reimu. Please be careful, it hurts very very much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953536
You are a horrible poster and you should leave.

[Anonymous No.]

I always had this milestone that I never thought I would reach. It just seemed inconceivable, and I mean it. Like getting my drivers license. I honestly thought it would never happen. And then graduating from highschool. I always just felt like I would be in school forever. It was the craziest feeling in the world, I had trouble believing it at first. I feel so disconnected from reality. Or maybe, I'm so shut in on my own reality, because something out of it seems impossible. Getting a job still feels impossible to me. It's hard to explain. It's almost like it doesn't exist in my reality. I don't feel like I'll ever get old, like I'll ever be anything but my current age. I don't know why, but I just don't know how to be anything else. It's not so much being lazy and just shoving it aside for later, I just don't feel it's conceivable. It's something unattainable. Sometimes I honestly feel like I'm at the end of my life, that I've experienced everything I could in my reality. It's so confusing

[Dexwyde !mbHjxjfHlA No.]

>>8953538
Yes, the people in the first group are the truNEETs. Everyone else is a False NEET.

[Anonymous No.]

NEETs who whine about being NEETs strike me as normalfags fighting their true natures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953538
NEET confirmed for status symbol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953538
>The other is pretty much the opposite in that they long first and foremost for social interaction.

>Disgusting people, that second group. They really are the lowest of the low.

4chan is social interaction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953539
True, but Gensokyo doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953556
I'm a truneet but I still whine about one thing. Getting older and uglier. I don't know why I am incredibly vain, but I am. I want to be a cute little girl. A cute little neet girl. But I can't achieve that if I stay a neet. I don't know if I can rely on normies to come up with an anti-aging gender changing loli potion. The reasons for wanting to look young and pretty is pure narcissistic vanity. I don't want to impress or attract anyone.

You know that weird notion that if you die an old man you appear as an old man in the afterlife? That's exactly what I believe. I don't want that to happen, I want to be at the very least a young man in the afterlife. But I don't want to suicide yet, I love being a neet. Oooohhhhhhhhh...

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953538
I've been noticing more of these types of posts lately. When did this "neet is a status symbol" crap start? I've been browsing /jp/ since june 2008 and I'm almost sure the depression threads were always here. It's almost as if being sad was a natural consequence of being a NEET

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953577
Get on hormone therapy if you are younger than 30.
A mtf's apparent age is reduced by two years before the normal process of aging takes hold. I'm 20 and I can walk into my old high school, and I fit right in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953578
People will do anything to justify their actions. Even if means raising up a terrible lifestyle as being something desirable and worth holding pride in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953578
In 2009.
It's not so much to justify their actions, but to keep themselves suicide, I'd say. It's vitally important for humans to feel better than other humans. We never really got over tribalism, it's practically hardwired in out psyche.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953601
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/feb/01/top-five-regrets-of-the-dying
>1. I wish I'd had the courage to live a life true to myself, not the life others expected of me.
>2. I wish I hadn't worked so hard.
You work you lose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953591
I'm not sure if I can commit myself to something like that. I already have trouble taking simple prescription pills for anything. I am also rapidly balding, I don't want to look like a freaky bald shemale 5 years from now. I mean 3 years ago my head was full of hair, now I have to give myself a buzz cut to fool myself into thinking I still have a decent amount of hair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953578
Those are the aforementioned False NEETs. Their true desire is to be a normal, but they're too autistic to go through with it. So they come to /jp/ to complain about how sad and ronery they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953612
I TRIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FARRRR BUT IN THE END IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTERRRRR

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953619
I HAD TO FALL TO LOSE IT ALL BUT IN THE END IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953619
>>8953619
get out kid linkin park is for angsty teenagers -.-

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953612
>5. I wish that I had let myself be happier.

>"This is a surprisingly common one. Many did not realise until the end that happiness is a choice. They had stayed stuck in old patterns and habits. The so-called 'comfort' of familiarity overflowed into their emotions, as well as their physical lives. Fear of change had them pretending to others, and to their selves, that they were content, when deep within, they longed to laugh properly and have silliness in their life again."

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953612
>4. I wish I had stayed in touch with my friends.

>"Often they would not truly realise the full benefits of old friends until their dying weeks and it was not always possible to track them down. Many had become so caught up in their own lives that they had let golden friendships slip by over the years. There were many deep regrets about not giving friendships the time and effort that they deserved. Everyone misses their friends when they are dying."

Now I'm sad

[Anonymous No.]

I think an alternative lifestyle would feel more empty than what I'm doing right now. I am not afraid of wasting my time with social isolation, I mean you can either waste your time with meaningless social bullshit or you can do what you really want.

I managed to feel comfortable for the most part, I go to the movies all by myself and don't give a fuck, I like to avoid this akward walking outside by setting my phone on silent and acting like I'm talking to somebody. Wearing shades whenever the sun shines outside also helped me feeling better about myself, people can't do shit to me when they can't even see my eyes.

But the best thing for me is when I think about how unsignificant I am, and how nothing I could do would ever really matter. The world is full of fucked up huge problems that I could never solve, I'm so glad that I don't have to take care of all this shit. As this shut in loner that I am, my only responsibility is to have a nice life, and even If I fail, nobody will notice. I might aswell make it, there is no pressure at all.

[Anonymous No.]

falseNEET pls leave
It's not our fault you are not happy you choose to live the same life as us. If you can't be happy and proud of what you are just stop it.

[Anonymous No.]

falseNEET = normal who got themselves in a position they don't want to actually want to be in, constantly compares themselves to others, and seeks stories of others in worse positions to make themselves feel not so bad.

trueNEET = Enjoying pseudo-retirement at early age.

What does the TruNEET do? Feels sorry for the false one's unfortunate situations, or looks at them with disdain. "Why are you doing something you don't want to?" People say retirement years are often the happiest years of people's lives. Aren't enjoying yourself? You're doing NEET wrong. Stop trying to NEETlife, and accept that you failed and work to fix it, you're making us look bad, and yourself look worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953660
I still don't know how you guys get the money to live like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953674
Welfare/assburguers/bullshit disease moneis.

[Anonymous No.]

I was asked today by a coworker what my goals in life were. I told her that I had no goals. When she and another coworker inquired more into what I wanted out of life I simply said I'm a hedonist. I explained how I just wanted to enjoy life and went on a little bit and probably flowered it up a tad but they stared at me with jaws dropped and eyes wide open in a daze as if I were sharing the secrets of the universe with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953680
Is welfare really that easy to get on? I assumed most of them were just mooching off their parents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953674
In the case the question was serious: we all have jobs and lead fairly normal, although slightly lonesome, lives.

You better start believing in troll boards...

[Dexwyde !mbHjxjfHlA No.]

>>8953696
get a load of this guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953674
working for a few months and being NEET the rest of the year/autism bucks/parents/heritage

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953710
you're welcome to get my load anytime

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953674
You want to know the truth?
Dont fucking believe the internet.
99% of the people here are successful salaryman earning at least 5figures a year.

Why all the trueNEET nonsense and normalfags insulting nonsense then you may ask?
They all hate the fucking robotic and routine salaryman lifestyle and false and fake face you have to put up when you are out there. They come to /jp/ to delude themselve and remind themselves about all the happy time as a NEET.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953723
Shhhh, some people actually believe that everyone tells the truth when they're anonymous. If they figure out that most of us are chronic liars they'll be broken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953678

They were in awe at what an autistic faggot you are

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953678
so did you fuck them/

[Anonymous No.]

>normies pretending to be NEETs to fit in with the board culture

Fucking normies ruining everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953748
>Using the terms "normies"

No anon, you're the one who ruined everything with your whole stupid fucking "US NEETS XD" and the mindset that it's something for us to brag about.
Or discuss period since it's fucking off topic.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not a NEET but wish to be one I just don't know how.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953763
It is worth bragging about. Quit being so insecure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953770
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=resignation+letter
Here you go.
No need to thank me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953787
But where is the money going to come from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953763
How dare those dirty NEETs not feel inferior to us glorious normal working people!?

Stop being proud of what you are and bow down to us!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953789
you're mom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953798
I'm not a mother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953789
-unemployment insurance
-investment
-your mom
-selling your ass to nigger
-letting grandma and aunties ride on you
-collecting rent with your mom house
Pick your poison.

[Anonymous No.]

No one's posted that Kaiji thing about provisional lives yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953719
b- baka!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953813
The joke is that it happens to everyone who didn't follow their dreams.

Didn't follow the dreams of your childhood if they were even half reasonable? Guess what, unless you replaced it with something even better, you'll be thinking of it on your deathbed.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to give up on life /jp/. I know I think about this every other month, and I know I should probably see someone like a therapist or a psychologist. But its not like seeing them in the past helped me. As a matter of fact, seeing them back then has only led me to realize how little they've helped me and generally ended up having me in a even worse position then I was before. Making me wonder why I went to a psychologist or therapist with how little I was suffering in comparison. Life isn't as bad as it seems. I keep telling myself that, but its not exactly a happy time either. It may improve later in life, but putting your hand on a stove the pain tends to go away after a while too. By that time, you usually don't have a hand anymore.

People keep telling me I should stop complaining, I don't complain in person, but like it matters. After all people don't appreciate it if you don't complain, its one of the things taken from granted. Not saying that's a bad thing, but...

I don't know, Life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953660
No, the scene kid NEETs are not the true NEETs.

[Anonymous No.]

Me in 10 years?

Am I a time traveler? I'm 37 years old now so .... that would be 8 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953470
There is nothing wrong with working, even a freeter job, and pooling your income with that of your parents. It allows you all to have a higher living standard as well.

[Anonymous No.]

True Neet is not about enjoying your NEET life or anything like that. True neetness is about shitting on the floor, pissing in bottles and making the labyrinths out of the bottles.
Pissing on the carpets is an option too, however unorthodox. (I'm biased about it as I started this way)
What, you are too much of a normalfag scum to do it? Well gee, you are not a part of our secret club.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953413
I'm not that familiar with ancient Greece (it's not a period of history that interests me much), but I'm sure that meant the RIGHTS of an adult. I don't imagine they'd wait that long to hand you a plow and a sword.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954043
I do that with my sister. Only without the incest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953723
Gee, no shit. I don't go as far as shitposting on /jp/ about whose a truNEET though. I'm just a college student who has a job that pays $18/hr when I'm not going to school. Most of us are just very socially awkward and have some kind of variation of autism/aspergers, myself included (Assburgers for me).

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953413
>Modern times have a severe lack of taking it easy. People are expected to jump into college and jump out prepared for a life of 60+ hour workweeks
Not true. Modern times are a lot more lax for children than any other period.
The actual period of childhood is extended greatly and the work laws/conditions are extremely soft compared to even 200 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

Hikkikomori = a phenomenon comprising of varying mental disorders easily solved talk therapy, cognitive behavioral therapy and or the right psychiatric medications (benzos, ssri, snri, and possibly psychostimulants or buprenorphine for more treatment resistant cases)

The only reason it is prevalent is because nobody is actively trying to help hikkikomoris, and they are not likely to seek help on their own if it means going out of their house. A home visit from a psychiatrist or having your parents drive you to a psychiatrist would do the trick.

Stop acting like you guys are so fucking unique just because you use 4chan and watch anime. But, if you live in a country like Japan treatment can be very difficult because psychiatry is terrible in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

Become self-employed, there are ways to make money without leaving your house. Realistically though I wouldn't be able to pay for things like a new house or car. I can only afford to maintain things like paying for bills. Not a bad life if you have a mother or someone who doesn't mind you still around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954067
Nobody ask about your life or how much you earn aniki.
You are part of the problem.
Just keep the illusion up so that these whiners and normalfags wannabe get the message.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954106
But I'm not denying it. I am a "normalfag" for the most part. I wish I could take it easy like most NEETs.

Either way, if you're on /jp/ regularly you have problems. No doubt about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953731
You can pretty much just reverse what any anon says and figure out what they really mean. Only very, very few anons tell the truth more often than lying (when it comes to anything not concrete such as their lives).

Remember the forex posts? If you know what I mean, then you should understand the above.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954096
Forex

[Anonymous No.]

^^

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953723
>Projecting.

No, just no.

[Anonymous No.]

Serious lack of tacking it easy around here, with all this time alone with your thoughts you still haven't found your path to happiness? Just fucking think about it you guys can't be that retarded.

Happiness won't find you nor will you find it, you have to create it. It doesn't matter if you are a NEET or in education or working a shitty job, just fucking live man. I've always looked down on people who get depressed/suicidal, I honestly think it's a retarded thought process that I got out of when I was still a kid.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been hikki for 5-6 years now.
I promised myself I would get my shit together by the time I'm 30.
I'll be 29 soon.
Time is running out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954291
>Looking down on people with a mental disease

Wow, what a courageous man. Depression is very complex, affects physical parts of the brain, causing a rut that is impossible to get out of without outside help. It's not something you can think your way out of it. If you can think your way out of it, then you're not depressed. It's as simple as that. You're taking it easy alright by being a dumb fuckwit incapable of critical thought. I suspect most people here have depression that stems from social anxiety disorder, another disease that is as physical as it is mental. Having so much time to spend with your thoughts is a very bad thing for someone with depression and anxiety.

Fuck, I hate you. You have rustled my jimmies. 10/10.

[Anonymous No.]

>5figures
>successful

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954310

>by being a dumb fuckwit incapable of critical thought

Sorry but that's how I arrived at my current mental state and just because I look down on a particular thought process does not mean I don't understand it or haven't experienced it myself. I talk with people like this all the time and I try to bring happiness into their lives. Though in the end you have to overcome yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953612
Thanks for that link. You made my night.

I was hiki for maybe 2 years following a layoff, though i was always socially inept. Sometimes i think it was alot of wasted time in the prime of my life, other times i think it was somehow good. I prepared myself for death... anyone ever tried Recapitulation? Feels good man

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954310
>Depression is very complex
Get your 1st world disease out of here.
Do you have internet?
Do you have a computer?
Do you come to /jp/ because of the /jp/ entertainment media and culture?
If you really cant find enjoyment out of this, why are you still alive?
>Basically, things that in the outside world have disappeared, been forgotten, or have had their existence denied all end up in Gensokyo.
Gensokyo is waiting for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954536
>First world disease
>Implying
that people in 3rd world countries who get depressed aren't the first ones to die or commit suicide right away. We're still around because we live in a first world country. Depression is a dangerous illness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954571
Commit suicide and die already then you worthless piece of subhuman trash.

[Anonymous No.]

...maybe you should just give up on your dreams and live a simple normalfag life?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954571

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954536
>1st world
If you love 3rd world countries so much then go to one and die shit face liberal!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954571
You are depressed for the wrong reason.
In 3rd world country, people get depressed because they cant find food, shelter and might just get kidnapped and raped. They die as a result of hunger and sickness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954593
Most people in third world countries have food and shelter, or they wouldn't be people, just corpses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953634
The joke is on them, I never had friends. You can't miss what you never had!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954579
>>8954592
Can't you see what you're doing? You're condemning me to die because I suffer from a disease you don't understand and dislike.

>>8954593
I don't think you understand how depression works. It's like saying "you're coughing up blood for all the wrong reasons, stop faking".

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954593
>Wrong reason
You know I'm not who you are talking to but you are a stupid asshole so what If he is not some disgusting 3rd world nigger/spic/Thai everyone has problems and some people get SERIOUSLY depressed about those problems.

For you to just brush someone off as "lol 1st world" is rude and insensitive.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think it's likely that many hikis will actually survive into their 30s. Death or employment would take most of them I bet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954608
>>8954609
Do you have food?
Do you have a cozy room to live in?
You have internet and entertainment.
Dont have to worry about school or work because NEET?
What is your problem? TOO LONELY? No FRIENDS?
DEAL WITH IT. Cant deal with it? Kill yourself out of /jp/.
Fucking falseNEETs disgust me.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/, why don't you guys spend your free time doing something to improve yourself? I mean, if you're really a NEET, it shouldn't take you too long to learn enough Japanese to read all those untranslated VNs, LNs, manga, videogames, anime, what have you. Learn 20 kanji a day for 100 days, a bit over 3 months. Boom, you're done with the 2000 kanji needed to read a newspaper. Spend the rest of the year on grammar/vocab and you should be in good shape by the end of the year. It only takes others so much longer because they have jobs, school, social lives, etc... Things that distract them. As a NEET, your only responsibility is shitposting on /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zif0_60b3WU

>jp

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954618
If I had enough drive to learn a language then I wouldn't be a dumb lazy NEET.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954616

This.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954616
>YOU HAVE FOOD, A COZY HOUSE, A WIFE AND KIDS WHO LOVE YOU, A 6 FIGURE JOB AND TONS OF FRIENDS! WHY ARE YOU DYING FROM CANCER?!?!

Is pretty much exactly what you're saying to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954616
>>>/b/
>>>/soc/
>>>/r9k/
>>>/pol/
>>>/reddit/

Take your pick dumb ass it's where your kind flourish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954616
Someone's upset they can't be NEET~!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954616
http://be-a-creeper.tumblr.com/post/16971871325/meme-spot-first-world

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954622
I speak like 3 and a half languages. It doesn't help one bit, if you hate talking with most people you're going to hate talking to them be it in your native language or moonspeak.

[Anonymous No.]

People in 3rd world countries are not depressed. My friend that was in India for quite a while talked with a guy who lost his parents and lived on the streets for years. And that Indian guy was a lot nicer and happier than most American fucktards that are living in the nice houses and eating good food and enjoying internets everyday.

Usually you don't get depressed because you don't have food. Most people get depressed because they can't accept their failures. In 3rd world countries there is not so much possibilities so there is nothing to fail, people just don't have choice.

If you chose /jp/ instead of socializing and getting a job it's only your problem and only you responsible for it. Accept your failures and move on, nobody is giving a fuck about you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954638
Blah Blah Bitch more while you leave nigger spic lover

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954638
And here we have that one guy who personally interviewed everyone in every 3rd world country to bring us great news that NOBODY in 3rd world country has ever gotten depressed! And he has a friend in india to vouch for him!

[Anonymous No.]

>Implying depression is a medical condition

>Implying the criterion of symptoms used in the diagnostic process of "depression" is a indication of a neurological disease.

>Implying that there is such a thing as phsyical tests for "depression", or that there is such a thing as a test to check if someone has a "chemical imbalance".

Why? Because "chemical imbalances" are imaginary, it was a unproven theory, and is still, nothing more then a unproven opinion that they exist.


Depression isn't a disease, or a medical condition. I however can sympathize with the people who suffer from the "symptoms" of it, and sympathize with how it makes you feel.

I don't sympathize with pseudoscience though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954629

You are so full of shit, stay depressed you fucking retard. You are just as dumb as the overweight fat guy who walks around parading how he doesn't give a fuck and it tastes nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954616
People don't compare themselves to someone halfway around the world. The way they perceive their problems is related to the culture and society they live in. Probably for someone on /jp/ being depressed for reasons other than food or shelter is perceived to be just as much as a problem, or even more, than the person who worries about food in a 3rd world country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954638
India has one of the highest depression rates in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954643
I would like to hear your suggestion about what a depression really is then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954640
>>8954643
>I don't understand it or suffer from it
>IT'S NOT REAL STOP BEING DEPRESSED

One time I felt depressed and then I just got over it and moved on. If I can do it anybody can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954643
>Implying depression is a medical condition
ICD 10 accepts depression.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954651

Lethargy, sadness, melancholy, and apathy, to varying degrees, ranging from severe to mild.

>"But I physically feel like shit".

Yes, and so do many other people on Earth, go prove that your muscle cramps and sadness/lethargy are directly related though, and are in fact being caused by a neurological disease.

Good luck.

[Anonymous No.]

What did the mentally healthy person say to the mentally ill person?

You're lying! Get over it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954643
>Why? Because "chemical imbalances" are imaginary, it was a unproven theory, and is still, nothing more then a unproven opinion that they exist.

There isn't even anywhere to start, this is so incorrect it's painful to read. I really hope you're just trolling for responses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954660
>>8954660

>Implying that means anything.

Pseudoscience is embedded deep into the "medical industry", but almost all of it has been confined to psychiatry/psychology. Unfortunately, they have wiggled themselves into some form of position of authority, despite neither of the two fields practicing actual medical science.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954647
Read >>8953538
They are discontent and depressed about their social standing in the public eyes.
Lets change the question around, would they be depressed if they are successful businessman and has hot banging model girlfriend?
Would you say that depression is holding him back to achieve the above said goals?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954662
>Lethargy, sadness, melancholy, and apathy

What causes them if not ``chemical imbalances''?

[Anonymous No.]

>Ph.D. in Japanology
>any job I want
>$300k starting

[Anonymous No.]

Watch out guys we got a medical expert in the thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954657

Stay depressed faggot, seriously. Grats on being a subhuman piece of shit and being incapable of doing anything about it. You can't get anymore retarded than blaming your sorrow on a pseudoscience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954669
>psychiatry
>neither of the two fields practicing actual medical science.
I want to hate you dead.

[Anonymous No.]

Depression isn't real, it's physically and mentally impossible to stay depressed. It's all a lie made up by idiots to extract sympathy and attention from their peers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954685
It's not my fault that MRI machines are pseudoscience bullshit.

sarcasm

[Anonymous No.]

The helium asphyxiation doctor is in.

[Anonymous No.]

I have been agoraphobic for 11 years (I'm 25) shit sucks, its not exotic.

spent most of mine in fantasy land playing everquest, animu and fapping. which is nice I guess but not ALL THE TIME.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954671

Well please, find me ONE source stating that they have a physical test able to verify if someone has a "chemical imbalance" or not?

There isn't one. It was a silly theory, that was never proven.

>>8954677

You're asking for my opinion?

I think many, many things can cause them. The aftermath of a death/tragedy, being a failure at life, having nothing to live for, being ugly, being stupid, having low self esteem, diseases like cancer or epilepsy, drug-use, or a infinite combination of things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954670
Are you saying that rich people never get depressed? That isn't really the case if you look at some celebrities and professional athletes.
Although if some people here had a girlfriend or any friend it might help them with depression, since they would have someone to get them help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954680
>stay depressed
You'll be surprised to learn that I have very little to no control over my depression. I can't snap into it and I can't snap out of it. The little control I have is to go to extremes like starving myself for 2 or more days to get my need to eat back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954704

That's pretty much how it is with me if I forget my meds. I hate being reliant on them but I can't function without them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954687

When was the last time you heard of a psychiatrist saying he could verify for sure if you had "depression" or not through a MRI?

There is no such thing as a physical test, (EG a MRI) that can verify whether or not someone has "depression". There is no known etiology, or biomarkers for it. So what the fuck would they be looking for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954706
Different people have different issues to deal with.
Just look at all the depressed anons here
-BAWWWWWWW I HAVE NO FRIENDS
-WHY I AM SO RONERY
I just want to say one thing. Depression is not the root cause of them being lonely and having zero friends.
They are depressed because they are lonely.
They long for social contact.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, I'm 18 as of right now so I'm not old at all yet; not NEET, acquiring bachelor's in IT and Master's in Computer Science in hopes of working from home so hopefully I can just be a shut in later on making good money so I can actually afford to buy figures. Great goal right? RIGHT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954710
Kempton MJ, Salvador Z, Munafò MR, Geddes JR, Simmons A, Frangou S, Williams SC. (2011). "Structural Neuroimaging Studies in Major Depressive Disorder: Meta-analysis and Comparison With Bipolar Disorder". Arch Gen Psychiatry 68 (7): 675–90. doi:10.1001/archgenpsychiatry.2011.60. PMID 21727252. see also MRI database at www.depressiondatabase.org

Arnone D, McIntosh AM, Ebmeier KP, Munafò MR, Anderson IM. (July 2011). "Magnetic resonance imaging studies in unipolar depression: Systematic review and meta-regression analyses". Eur Neuropsychopharmacol 22 (1): 1–16. doi:10.1016/j.euroneuro.2011.05.003. PMID 21723712.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954714

You're probably not going to listen to me, but please, go to google and type in "(name of your drug) withdrawal".

Many times the drug's withdrawal is often mistaken for, lets just say something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954704

Not surprised at all, you have no control over anything because you are stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954703
>The aftermath of a death/tragedy, being a failure at life, having nothing to live for, being ugly, being stupid, having low self esteem

How exactly does it work? Do people ``choose'' to get sad/melancholic/depressed because of these things? Why can't they ``choose'' to ignore it and be happy instead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954686
In after, during, and before all sorts of silly claims by people who know less than introductory neurology courses provide. And then all those ones by those retards who think depression isn't real, or can't be directly induced or reduced with drugs, or can't become a nearly chronic affliction, or doesn't have a fairly wide breadth of triggers.

Saying clinical depression doesn't exist is like saying cancer doesn't exist because our body is supposed to work properly, and cancer would mean it isn't working properly. Lung cancer? This person has thyroid cancer and that means cancer can't work in some other area to cause the same end result. Lung cancer is just impossible!

I wonder how many times this exact discussion has happened on /jp/. Fifty by now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954717
>They are depressed because they are lonely

You are incorrect in assuming so. You only assumed that so you can group the depressed with the normalfags you hate so much. And you only did that so you can have a convenient set of rules you can follow to make your life easier and better for yourself.

Your rules that help you sleep at night don't really apply to everyone at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954722

I'll do it now, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954722
I really dislike SSRIs. No person who was actually well informed would take them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954724
>I wonder how many times this exact discussion has happened on /jp/. Fifty by now?
We should start keeping a count.

[tripstopissyouoff !Inoac9aXuY No.]

>>8953230
pill pushers help the most serve people but everyone and their mother is on Prozac or some other SSRI/SSNRI especially kids that go through a divorce, drag their kids into it and wonder why he fucking hates shit. Or the kids they try to drug because they don't want to sit in a desk for 8 hours learning about shit they hate (you know ... kids?)

Some quack prescribed me Clonazapam at 16 for anxiety and didn't think there was a problem when they found me 3 hours late for school drooling and sleeping on a bus and not remembering a couple months of my life. I still fight with drug side effects from that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>Is this you in 10 years?
it makes me mad that OP thinks everyone here is a teenager like him

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954735
I vote for starting "Depression and suicide" General threads and then placing them to /vg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954728
Still smarter than you butthurt turbonerd, all the geniuses and philosophers have been depressed so that proves it. You're just mad you can't be a member of the trudepressed master race. Depression is a status symbol.

trudepressed: scholarly gentlemen only concerned with important matters and how it affects them; not depressed about loneliness and doesn't long for friends and relationships

false depressed: BAAWW IM RONERY PLEASE LEAVE YOUR MSN I WANT A FRIEND NOWW

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954736

Wrong.

You just need to know what they're actually going to do for you, instead of expecting them to magically fix your depression.

They'd be better received if they were called "Mood Stabilizers" or something.

When I was on Zoloft, I was much less obsessive and angry, and thus, less depressed. I'll probably go back on it soon-the mild damage to the libido is negligible compared to the benefits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954719

All of these studies, always have come back inconclusive. They have to constantly use words like "may indicate", "might", etc.

Most of the time they don't take into account that the person was on psychiatric drugs for a long time, and that could be the cause of a fucked up MRI scan.

And, I can tell you for sure, that every single one of these studies, has never FOUND A ETIOLOGY OR BIOMARKER for "depression".

They take any "abnormality" they can find on the scan, and then go on to say stuff like, "This MAY be the etiology of depression". Or, "This MIGHT be a indication of a biomarker for depression".


None of them have ever come back with conclusive proof of anything. If you go into a neurologist, and ask for a MRI to check if you have depression, I think you'll get quite the lecture.

[tripstopissyouoff !Inoac9aXuY No.]

>>8954742
forgot to mention a common side effect from many of the drugs for anxiety and depression is that once they have been treated USING said drugs if you quit there is a good chance your symtpoms come back multiple times worse than before you went on the shit.

It's a multibillion dollar bandaid scam that hurts people (some people may need them if they are psychotic or what have you)

>>8954746
Ah yes weasel words, fucking assholes would have cured cancer and flown us to the moon without them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954747
maybe through some sort of false realization, we can get an entire board to just wipe itself off of here. have some k-on

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954726
I only assume this because it is what all of the fucking /blog/ threads in here is all about.
Oh yeah, I went to look into OP quote on google.
Guess what I found, most of these depressed fucks are fucking jealous of their normalfags acquaintances.
Just look at all these depressed faggots checking out facebook making themselves depressed.
http://tohno-chan.com/so/res/9508.html

They arent suffering from depression, they are suffering from being stupid. Lets compare these retards with this guy here. He is a trueNEET hero compare to these falseNEET.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954746
They say "may" or "might" because that's basically the standard in psychology. It's never assumed anything is complete and that more research is always needed. The fact that multiple studies find the same thing should be enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954748
>trudepressed
Aww yeah, man, I'm starting to use this as a counterweight to TruNeets.
Tribalism ahoy, motherfuckers.
I also wish we could split the TrueNeets between happy autists and professional floor shitters, because those are two different groups, motherfuckers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954746
Well yes. But logically there has to be some biological difference between those that are depressed and those that aren't. If there isn't, then the laws of physics would be overturned and that'd be quite bad.
The best we can do now is symptomatic diagnosis. And it's all self diagnosis since people can lie. I pretend to be completely fine around normals all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954763
>motherfuckers
>motherfuckers
Shut up kid. Go play with your megablox or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954775
>Go play with your megablox or something.
Motherfuckers is a good word, motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.]

We need to get a mod in here to permaban everyone replying to the depression troll

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954787
There's no debate here. It's a shitty troll and shitposters like you responding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954780

>People having a debate

ARGGGHHH WHY EVERYONE TROLLING

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954787
>Debate
It's the circular clusterfuck of autism that repeats every couple of days or so. It's always the fucking same.
I don't think anyone is trying to seriously discuss anything here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954793
Stop trolling already

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954748

You are trying to hard now, it was fun though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954797
Targeting this at wrong poster, bub.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954814
see
>>8954797

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954814

>bub

lul so mentally superiorrr XD

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954817
Oh well, you are entitled to believe whatever you want. I wasn't taking any sort of active part in this thread, this discussion got old the last time Kojp did it.

>>8954820
I just find that word amusing, son.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954850
I was making a more subtle point- and that was you were accussing everything that wasn't you of being a troll simply because it's been done before.
You know what else has been done before?
Troll accusation.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6c62GP4z58
28years old NEET not giving a fuck.
Look at how happy compare to all of you sad fucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954855
It, and everything else in this thread, has been discussed a hundred times. Nobody actually cares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954888
Welcome to 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954855
>were accussing everything that wasn't you of being a troll
Wrong person.
>circular clusterfuck of autism that repeats every couple of days

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953554
Wow, I haven't related to anyone this much in a long time...

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953230
>Is this you in 10 years?
>Speaking as a 29 year old hiki

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953723
Every single time someone posts stuff like this I always wonder if it's actually true, the worst part is I'll never be able to find out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953311
congrats on the marriage

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953230
I'm 28, NEET, never worked, and I do think like this. Seriously, your life isn't over with 22 yet. With 30 and always having been a NEET, maybe it is over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8954742
The quack was a CIA agent, and he gave you the pills
as a decoy. The real reason you lost your memory was
because the CIA erased it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8955719
Holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>8953907
I never really had any dreams in my childhood, I just wanted to play video games and or engage in other hobbies. The closest thing I had to a dream was wanting to live apart from my parents so I could do these things without being bothered.

[Anonymous No.]

In 10 years I'll be 39 or dead

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how many medical researchers and frontline psychs themselves have a financial incentive to overexaggerate and push for as many recognized mental 'illnesses' as possible. Of course they'll have the pills to treat that too. Big pharma's got very deep pockets and is capable of making or smearing your rep.