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Under US and UK law, lolicon is illegal unless it has some sort of artistic value.

Is there any lolicon material that has artistic value, /jp/?

>> No.8951433

my dick

>> No.8951442

Stuff by Rustle

>> No.8951443
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>> No.8951449

kawady max

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>>8951442
I was gonna say that

>> No.8951470

>>8951443
Why the fuck was she naked?

I know a big disaster happened, but she couldn't even wrap a t-shirt around herself or something? Nobody offered? Even in a crisis I would be running alongside and I'd be like, "Oh shit, have my jacket."

>> No.8951469

What does artistic value mean?

>> No.8951474

Visual novels and some eromanga. They have written content that clearly has artistic merit.

>> No.8951472

>>8951469
You could hang it in a museum and rich people would admire it and buy it to decorate their homes.

>> No.8951479

>>8951470
HELL yeah style shouldn't be ignored!

>> No.8951480

>>8951470

Her village just got napalmed to shit, if I recall. They were all running for their lives. Modesty was not a priority.

She was later treated for severe burns and, presumably, given a shirt.

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>>8951469
2deep4u

>> No.8951488

>>8951474
Pretty much this. If there is any plot at all you have grounds for artistic merit.

>> No.8951489

There was a russian site full of artistic cute child photos but can't find it anymore

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>> No.8951491

>>8951488
But then people would just argue that porn films have plot, but very few of them can be considered art in any way. I've always thought of eroge as plot with porn rather than porn with plot, but the stories aren't usually very DEEP so I doubt a lot of people would see it that way.

>> No.8951496

Romeo and Juliet.

>> No.8951507

>>8951491
Porn is art.

>> No.8951509

>true art
>fap material

pick one

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>>8951489
>artistic cute child photos
No such thing, pedo.

>> No.8951516

I did my work experience in a school once and I wasn't allowed any photographs of children. I accidentally took one and I had to blur the face in Photoshop, presumably so sick pedophiles wouldn't wank to fully clothed children on the work experience display board.
Maybe I should have applied a bloom filter or something, then it would have been art.

>> No.8951521

>>8951507
Yeah, erotic freedom and liberal something blah blah freedom of expression people are at their most pure and it's art and stuff great, except it isn't though, is it?

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>>8951509
I've fapped to "proper" art hundreds of times.

For me it was like a gateway to 2D. These people painted models and brushed away the imperfections to create an idealized form of the female body. That's a lot more attractive than two saggy people bashing their genitals together.

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drawings - not art
cutting lambs head off - art
>mfw

>> No.8951532

>>8951432
>Under US law.

No it isn't. I think you mean Canadian law.

>> No.8951533

>>8951528
Me on the left.

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only 14yo fap to art

>> No.8951542

>>8951531
it's business art, so no, it's not art

>> No.8951547

>>8951534
Fuck off.

>> No.8951549

>>8951532
I think he's thinking of obscenity laws which aren't a federal law but a law that states can adopt. In the case of obscenity laws if you appealed your case to the SCOTUS they'd probably have the case thrown out though since federal law wins in this case.

>> No.8951580

>>8951491
>But then people would just argue that porn films have plot
Pretty much the only reason porn doesn't get banned completely in America is because they use that as an excuse to not be declared obscene.

>> No.8951583

>>8951532
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1466A

Specifically mentions cartoons, even.

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>> No.8951693

>>8951597
What the fuck? COPA had nothing to do with 18 USC § 1466A. It was part of the PROTECT Act (which came later, in 2003). COPA being struck down had nothing to do with the PROTECT Act, and it's still in effect. In fact people have been convicted under 18 USC § 1466A since COPA was ruled unconstitutional.

Either an idiot or a troll made this image.

>> No.8951697

>>8951693
Stop fearmongering.

>> No.8952043

>>8951697
I'm not fearmongering--just pointing out a current law.

And to be honest, even though it's illegal you're not likely to get busted for it. It's not like they monitor everyone's searches and see if they've been looking for lolicon. Yet.

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IT'S NOT PEDO MOM IT'S ART!!!

Jesus, do you pedo faggots ever stop and listen to yourselves?

>> No.8952054

>>8952048
sup Archduke

>> No.8952065

>>8952048

>>>/SA/

>> No.8952095

>>8951531
going to have to agree with faggot on this one.

'Ah yeah, you can kill animals because it's so deep and meaningful, but don't you dare look at or draw underage children, that's just wrong!'

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>>8951470
0/10

>> No.8952309

>>8952095
The cracks in our modern, humanitarian thinking are starting to widen.

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I always thought this was pretty artistic.

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>>8952338

>you will never be a little cute loli girl and have dicks in every orifice of your body

;_;

>> No.8952351

>>8952343
there's no need to be a loli to get dicks in every orifice of your body

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Obviously this is a criticism of modern psychology and the effects or lack thereof regarding therapy.

>> No.8952367

>>8952054

oh yuck, archduke from IRC? that guy was a fucking turd.

>> No.8952705

>>8952367
He's had a few epic troll personas here, most notably Tokiko.

>> No.8953036

>>8951442
this

>> No.8953057

>artistic value
Oh, come the fuck on. How vague can you get?

>> No.8953082

>>8953057
Welcome to law.

>> No.8953085

>illegal unless it has some sort of artistic value.

So it's all legal then.
Lets all abandon this thread and go to sad panda for some frosty chocolate milkshakes

>> No.8953091

Isn't art entirely subjective? How can you base a law around that?

>> No.8953117

>>8953091
A lot of legal stuff is based around subjective decisions, mostly involving reasonable shit, like "reasonable person," "reasonable suspicion," and "reasonable doubt."

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Would this count as artistic?

>> No.8956507

>>8955457
No, it counts as NWS, reported.

>> No.8956531

>>8955457
Faptistic?

>> No.8956546

>>8953057
>>8953091
This is where the Miller test comes in handy. You ask a bunch of ``average Americans'' (middle-aged Christian nutjobs who hate everything) whether it's obscene, they invariably say it is, therefore it's not art.

>> No.8956553

>>8953085
>Lets all abandon this thread and go to sad panda for some frosty chocolate milkshakes
Take your viral marketing back to /a/ where people will actually fail to notice it, "faggot".

>> No.8956572

>>8956507
Reporting loli on /jp/. What has this place come to?

>> No.8956575

You're in luck cause I get money from the government for being artistic

>> No.8956605

>>8951432
>Is there any lolicon material that has artistic value, /jp/?

All of it. Obviously.

>> No.8956621

Images are intrinsically artistic.

Prove me wrong.

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>>8956572
You must be new here.

>> No.8956627

>>8956617
O U OWND ME 4LYFE!1

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Pretty sure this counts as art.

More artistic than 99% of modern "art" anyway.

>> No.8956629

>>8956625
I'm so lonely.

>> No.8956628

>>8956627
Yeah man I accused you of being new. Everyone knows being new on 4chan is a heinous crime. You could argue, but that means you're butthurt--even worse!

I have completely and utterly destroyed your argument, sir.

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>>8956617
>Caring about Jewt.

Also, would you, /jp/?

>> No.8956633

>>8956625
Vaginas are kind of gross.

I'm 27.

>> No.8956645

>>8956635
Jewt is an IMAGE BOARD EXPERT you plebeian.

Using a tripcode to protect my identity, and saging so this threads gets purged faster.

>> No.8956659

Why don't we all just move somewhere in latin America? I heard the porn laws are really lax.

>> No.8956681

>>8956659
Well, as far as I know it's illegal in Brazil. Not really enforced most of the time though, although someone had been jailed for it once, I think.

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This picture is legal in the U.S.

>> No.8956752

>>8956727
Shit nigger.
I clicked it and I live in germany and now I gonna get jailef

>> No.8956994

>>8956752
No. It's legal everywhere. It's a topless girl, you can't even see her tits because she has none.

Even The Simpsons had Maggie being bathed topless in one episode. Nipples don't mean shit.

>> No.8957000

>>8956727
I'd give her a pearl necklace.

>> No.8957013

>>8956625
that's not a loli

>>8956727
hi Sallinger

>> No.8957026

>>8956727
>Sally Mann is an American photographer, best known for her large black-and-white photographs—at first of her young children, then later of landscapes suggesting decay and death.

There's something really depressing about this.

>> No.8957032

>>8957013
All drawings cannot contain lolis, I guess. Only drawn pictures of them.

>> No.8957038

>>8957026
yeah it was Sallymann, I mistook it for another i dumb

>> No.8957048

>>8957032
dude she has the fictional body of a 17 year old

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This isn't obscene so it's legal.

>> No.8957053,1 [INTERNAL] 

This was an interesting thread.

Fucking janitor. Can't you delete individual, rule-breaking posts any more?

>> No.8957053,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>8957053,1
Too much work deleting whole threads is much easier.

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