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/jp/ I wanna learn how to make music where do I start?

(Normally I would ask somewhere like /mu/ but I can't stand it there and /jp/ is full of musicians from what I saw in the OC threads)

>> No.8891342

Theoretical or practical?

>> No.8891344

http://www.worldofbryan.com/rsg2mt.pdf

Buy a cheap MIDI keyboard. Install FL Studio or some bullshite alternative like LMMS. Become a PRO.

>> No.8891347

You could start by learning an instrument.Even if you never gonna actually use said instrument to make professional music, I think it's a good idea to get a feeling for it.

>> No.8891354

>>8891342
I don't really understand because i'm new to this sorry

>>8891344
What's a good midi keyboard then

>> No.8891368

>>8891354
Theoretical: You play and can explain the shit you playing.

Practical: You play but you can't explain the shit you playing.

>> No.8891375

I saved up a lot of money to buy a synthesizer.

Figured I would devote a lot of my time to it so I could be like my favorite pop stars. Bought some books, everything was good to go. Learned scales, a few chords, going along nicely.
"Hey, I could be using this motivation and effort to learn to learn Japanese! That would be more worthwhile in the long run, I'll do this later."
Memorized some hiragana/katakana, learned basic grammar, started working through Genki, had Anki primed.
"Wait, why am I doing this? I could be learning to program! Not only is that useful, but I could earn money with it."
Downloaded some ebooks, read K&R, wrote a few small programs.
"Fuck it, what's the point. I'll just shitpost on 4chan instead."

Four years later and I have a dusty keyboard that makes me sad to look at, an outdated version of Anki, and a few gigabytes of programming ebooks I will never open.

Sorry for blogging, but fuck everything.

>> No.8891379

I wish I would be able to make 8-bit music, but Famitracker is really boring to get into. Making a lot of touhou remixes would be entertaining.

>> No.8891382

>>8891368
Well then practical for now

>> No.8891389

>>8891354
>What's a good midi keyboard then
Just get a cheap Casio and use it as a MIDI controller. This basically means you can use your keyboard to compose/play music with your computer (I think it's all MIDI over USB now, which is nice).

Then you can do cool stuff like this!
http://www.synthesiagame.com/
(not really a viable way of "learning the piano", though it might help you learn songs)

>> No.8891412

What kind of music do you want to create?

Producing each type is a little different. It's best to just to stick with your favorite genre at first.

>> No.8891431

>>8891412
I like jazzy stuff like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4d4O54ssCc

And stuff like this too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI0FxkDC6QM

But I kinda think that it's too advanced for me

>> No.8891467

>>8891368
Actually I can explain and arrange shit but have a hard time playing. With the advent of digital music workstations, they need not be mutually exclusive, though most music makers worth their romp can at least play one instrument fairly well.

>> No.8891470

>>8891375
Are you me? Are you fucking me? ARE YOU FUCKING ME?


YOU ARE FUCKING ME. YOU ARE FUCKING ME IN THE ASS RIGHT NOW AREN'T YOU BITCH? AH FUCK IT FEELS SO GOOD. FUCK ME IN THE ASS HARDER!

>> No.8891501

>>8891431
Get a software.
Depending on what you're going to produce you can choose between some.

Get some VSTi's, synths, etc.

Record, and repeat ad infinitum.

>> No.8891506

>>8891501
I've been doing that for about a year and I still can't write a song longer than 10 seconds.

>> No.8891551

>>8891431
You can make any genre of music. All you need is a MIDI keyboard and a DAW with a bunch of VSTi plugins. Depending on the VSTi's you use, you can emulate any instrument and whatnot, and compose it all in the DAW as you wish. For a midi keyboard, I suggest a Roland A-800PRO. For a DAW, it's your choice. SONAR X1, FLstudio, etc. Learning the software is not easy, though.

>> No.8891555

>>8891506
Start by getting a chord-progression you like.

Make simple songs with one instrument first; preferably with piano.
Have a basic drum track, and some bass, and then just keep going.

>> No.8891566

Why are /jp/ experts in all sorts of things, but never produce anything really noteworthy?

>> No.8891571

I agree that a midi keyboard (USB) is a good choice for a first instrument because it's easy to relate the layout of a keyboard to music theory. If you learn to play piano and read sheet music, you'll naturally learn basic music theory. Just make sure you can commit to practicing a little every day and have patience.

>> No.8891580

Study music theory. A lot of it.

>> No.8892027

I bought a drum machine (NI maschine), and now I make sample driven hip hopish beats. Really fun for me since I can just sample anything I like and create a beat around it. Right now now I add bass and other shit purely by ear, but I need to start using the ear training material I have so that I can learn scales / chord progression etc

I would say avoid software like FLstudio/albeton etc if you have -absolutely- no music knowledge. In my experience, it was too difficult to actually get started and have fun. When you get an idea, you don't know how to implement it in the software due to lack of musical and software knowledge.

Watch breakdown videos of the music types you like on youtube etc

>> No.8892206

>>8891375
>>8891470
Exactly me, in 5 years time.

And right now, I'm taking another chance to become a Physiotherapist. If I pass it and get a job in the US, I'll try programming again for a quick app. Studying Japanese as well again, but not too obsessively and learn music after work.

It could probably work. I hope.

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>> No.8893261

>>8891412
congrats on the marriage

>> No.8893278

>>8891566

You can have all of the brains and talent in the world, but without motivation and dedication, nothing of value can be made.

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>>8891470

>> No.8893480

So, while this thread is here, could anyone direct me towards a good entry-level MIDI keyboard?

>> No.8893621

>>8891336

So is this the new OC thread this thread month or...?

>> No.8893653

>>8893480
I'd like to know this as well.
Is an 88-key highly recommended or can I still get a good grasp on things with a cheaper keyboard?
Not that I'll ever work up the motivation to do it anyways, but I'm still interested.

>> No.8893692

Honestly speaking any midi keyboard would do, especially when you are merely starting. There's no need to go for an 88 key right away. A 49key is ideal for starting.

>> No.8893707

Are those learning programs actually good? The ones that turn it into a game.

>> No.8893710

>>8893653
The only reason to get an 88-key is if you're actually planning on playing songs that require one. In short, if you have to ask, no.

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Obligatory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_eyUVVcgc8

>> No.8896201

Im buying a keyboard today.

>> No.8896224
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8896224

I made random song last night after reading this thread:

http://soundcloud.com/zunbar/the-girl-with-no-eyes

>>8896201
Which keyboard? I want to get one too. Inputting music notes by mouse gets old (sorta like drawing stuff with a mouse).

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>>8896224
Can you make me song ZUN!bar

>> No.8896327

>>8896224
Please write an irish jig?

>> No.8896341

>>8896224

Congrats for the marriage!

>> No.8898373

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCRPUv8V22o

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OP, you don't learn how to make music. You discover music. It's different.

Music is art. Art, is a way to express yourself without using words. You have to discover how to express yourself with music, because only you know how to do that and nobody can teach you how to do that.

>> No.8898389

hey /jp/, i play the saxophone really well and i really want to join a circle

how would one go about doing this?

>> No.8898393

>>8898389
I'll send you some tracks I'm working on and you can overdub them with whatever you want. Then when my album is a hit, we'll both be rolling in dough.

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