/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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DO YOUR COMBOS

[⑨Liberty-kun⑨ !yFBUixGIig No.]

[Anonymous No.]

grape juice

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Later

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>>8858881
keep telling that to yourself.

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What happened to the usual girl?

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>>8858894
walked thru Eazy's turf.

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I don't have time anymore eazy, I have to study! ;_;

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Reps are for bustahs.

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>>8858936
say goodbye to yo vocab, bitch nigga

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120+ cards due.
No thanks.

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>>8858951
It will only get worse. You have to do it now! Don't be like me (1100 due)

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>>8858951

403 here, I haven't been finishing lately. Better do that shit today. 120 isn't anything.

[【スパーキー（④ ＾ヮ＾）】⚡ !FCr.DTJy2k!!54bDy3LQvy8 No.]

>>8858938
wwww

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Maybe next month.

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What's this Aniki thing you guys keep talking about anyway?

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>>8858966

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>>8858984
It's a spaced repetition program. Basically it shows you digital flashcards from decks that online losers compile. Every time you see a card, you rate how well you remember it. Based on that, an algorithm determines how soon you'll see that card again. You generally do a review once per day.

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>>8859005

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Any deck recommendations?

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>>8859035
Finish the due cards in your existing decks first.

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>>8859061
はい。

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>>8859035
May i kindly ask what programm that is ?
Where to get it and the card sets (?).
And, more important, is it effective ?

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>>8859095
yes

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>>8859095
http://ankisrs.net/

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How do you guys get the on'yomi down (if there is more than 1-2 kun'yomi, I usually skip those readings)? I mean, there are so many on'yomi readings that are the same, especially something like し. I'm already mixing myself up on a few kanji on'yomi.

Do you guys study mnemonics, or just brute force it? I found mnemonics do help but I don't think I can do it for 2000 Kanji straight. KanjiDamage's mnemonics are too.. lewd? And they also mix me up after a while. Mnemonics even slow me down because I have think for a few seconds about the mnemonic itself before I remember.

I create my own cards, based on information from Genki, if that helps. (meaning on question side, everything else on answer side)

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>>8859095
Anki, it's a small flash card program. You can download other people's decks in the interface, though it's best to create your own over time. It's as effective as you make it.

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>>8859095
http://ankisrs.net/

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>>8859121
No need to use mnemonics for readings, that is too ineffective. Instead, learn them in context using sentence decks such as Core6k and let the SRS handle the rest.

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>>8858951

funny, I'm at 120+ cards too.

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>>8859121
I tend to memorise readings according to how much I see them used in everyday speech. Talking to Japanese people and watching a lot of Japanese TV helps with this.

I do still have trouble with a few words though, the silliest and most basic of which is 中 which for some reason I just can't get myself to automatically recognise as anything other than "naka" regardless of the context. This makes me hate myself a little.

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>>8859119
>>8859132
>>8859133
Thanks. Found the same link by now. Look interesting.
Good thing i found that thread.
Wanted to do these a long time ago. I am having a hard time studying properly at the moment. Everything's a huge mess right now.

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>>8859121
Constantly reading sentences and stories (context) is better than just learning the readings for every word.

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Doing reps is nice and all but don't forget to read your Dictionary of Basic/Intermediate/Advanced Japanese Grammar as well, Anonymous!
(Tae Kim's guide is fine too, I guess)

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>>8859139
Okie dokie. I don't use mnemonics at all anyway. I should make a deck for vocab though, since I only end up studying how to recognize a Kanji and it's on'yomi and some ku'nyomi and skip other information I note.

But, damn, there are so many exceptions to remember. Most recent one that is kicking my ass is paper, 紙. So many exceptions for a bunch of words with that in it. Only 和紙 and かみ seem to follow the rules.

>>8859145
I don't have anyone to speak, nor do I really want to. Odd you mention that though, I'm fairly grounded that 中 has なか and ちゅう. So far any words I've come across with 中 I can guess the pronunciation of it, so I love this Kanji.

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>>8859157
So then those are unique examples that use the readings in them? Like picking up a children's book and remembering the sentences?

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一角獣や虹

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I was away for four days and now I have over 500 sentences to review :(

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>>8859215
Busta, you shoulda used AnkiWeb or one of the Anki apps.

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i done 500+ cards in anki dis week, gimme a break homeboy

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Done dem reps.

I want to study more, but I'm not sure how to make Anki do it. I already set deck properties to work in terms of minutes/hours instead of days but nothing is happening.

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carl a BUSTA

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Have any of you guys used aniki as a tool for learning any non moon languages?

i would much rather learn french, german or spanish than weeaboo speak

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>>8860327
you a busta

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>>8860333

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>>8860333

I use anki for everything.

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>>8860333
I learned a couple of the (English) vocabulary decks. I'm a native English speaker, but I wanted to make my writing more interesting. It helped quite a bit, actually.

Spaced repetition is apparently the best method of learning that psychology boffins have come up with. It lends itself well to learning jargon and vocabulary, so I think using it to learn French or German words would be a good idea.

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>>8860333

Who the hell wants to talk to faggot frogs or dirty Mexicans?

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>>8860291
You need a right combination of plugins. Seeing what I have enabled, "Always refresh queues" and "Interval Tweak" seems to do the trick. Plus, of course, some other settings like unchecking per-day sheduling.

God, you just reminded me what a piece of shit Anki is.

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>>8860339
what does this say i can't read it

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>>8862711
the pleasure of cumming inside of /jp/

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>>8862761
don't lie to me faggo t i no i doenst' say that

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>>8862780
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF WHAT DID YOU FUCKING CALL ME?
A FAGGOT?
DO YOU FUCKING KN OW WHAT FAGGOT EVEN MEANS? IT MEANS A HOMOSEXUAL. A FUCKING QUEER. A WHOOPSY. A PRANCING LALA FRUITY BOY. YOU COME HERE, AND CALL ME FUCKING THAT? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY GIGABYTES OF PORNOGRAPHY FEATURING ONLY FUCKING !!!FEMALES!! I HAVE? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY TIMES A DAY I MASTURBATE TO THIS COLLECTION, HOW MANY HOURS I SPEND EXPANDING IT? NO, NO YOU FUCKING DON'T, YOU JUST COME IN HERE AND MAKE A FUCKING JUDGEMENT ON ME LIKE YOu"RE SOME KIND OF JUDGER OF FAGS WHEN I STILL SMELL OF THE SEMEN FROM JACKING IT TO THE PUSSY OF A FUCKING FEMALE THIS BOARD ISN"T FUCKING /GAY/ ALRIGHT IT'S /jp/, NEWSFLASH, JAPAN HAS SEX TOO, OTHERWISE JAPAN WOULD NOT EXIST AS A FUCKING COUNTRY WITH PEOPLE IN YOU PREJUDICED PIECE OF SHIT

WHIPE THAT SMILE OFF YOUR FUCKING FACE. I BET I HAVE AT LEAST TEN TIMES THE AMOUNT OF PICTURES OF VAGINA YOU DO, FAGGOT FAG FAG FRUITY WHOOPSY DOO-DOO LAA LAA SCOUT BOY GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD

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>>8862785
:-o You are funny man. Ladies love humor so you can't be a faggot swimming in all that ass.

>this isn't /gay it's /jp/
>

also you should stream porn grandpa. No need to save it anymore brah

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>>8862785
how many more times people are going to repost this already unfunny copypasta?

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>>8862808
Not him, but I like it.

If you don't like it, like it ironically.

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Doing my reps now! I am almost done with kanjidamage.

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>>8865970

check out this cracka

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>>8865970
One day this guy is going to look at all these cartoons strewn about his desk and realize just how much he has wasted his life.

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Guys, how do I do "reps"?

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Coon, coon, black baboon
Brutal, worthless, thieving goon
Often high, thrives in jail
His welfare check is in the mail
Some 40 offspring have been had
But none will ever call him dad
And yet he hollars, day and night:
"I blame the white man for my plight.
He spreads his trash around my shack,
It's him who makes me smoke this crack
He pushed my kind to burn and loot
And sends the po-lice that we shoot
But inch by inch we're taking hold,
Like when the white bread starts to mold
We'll overrun your homes and soon
They'll only be fit for the black baboon"

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>>8865970

NSJ confirmed for African American gentleman.

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When will I reach the point where I don't have to do reps anymore

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>>8867981
Good question. My grammar deck has intervals at like 4 months for all cards but everyday it seems I have reps to do.

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>>8867981
Beginner: Cannot learn Japanese without English. Starts out knowing no Japanese and ends with the ability to use Japanese as a language.

Intermediate: Doesn't need English, but doesn't know enough Japanese to be self-sufficient in Japanese. Starts knowing only how to have simple conversations and ends with ability to learn Japanese like you learn your language your whole life. Universities often call intermediate "advanced".

Advanced: Knows Japanese, but speaks it as a second language speaker would and cannot express things in Japanese in an impressive way. Their Japanese sounds unnatural. Starts out not sounding very intelligent in Japanese and gets better. This never ends for anyone who speaks any language.

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>>8868010
What grammar deck do you use?

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ＮＳＪ ＩＳ Ａ ＮＩＧＧＥＲ ＪＥＷ ＴＨＩＳ ＰＯＳＴ ＭＡＲＫＥＤ ＦＯＲ ＤＥＬＥＴＩＯＮ ｗｗ

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Hey guys, I am in the middle of the first stage of learning japanese. I have only 1400 kanji down but I kinda want to get into reading things. Should I just blow off learning grammar until I got about 2100~ kanji or should I learn grammar after?

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>>8868026
>This never ends for anyone who speaks any language.
What.
I mean yeah of course you'll always pick up new words and find new ways to express yourself, if only because the language will change over time, but surely once you know 5000+ kanji and you're more eloquent than most native speakers you can just say "fuck it, I'm done learning Japanese"? Unless you want to be a PhD. in Japanese or Japanese literature, in Japan.
I really hope you're not implying that a non-native speaker can never achieve native-level fluency because that's certainly false.

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>>8868056
You should've started learning grammar and reading simple texts 1000 kanji ago.

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>>8868131
My plan was to get the most useful kanji down and grammar up to basic level and try to learn more through readings. Is there any benefit to going into reading at only a few hundred kanji?

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>>8868042
Tae Kim's. I downloaded the most popular one and completed it months ago. I've been getting all the cards right but there's always cards for me to review everyday.

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>>8868126
There is no "native level fluency". There is only advanced. People learn things about their language for their whole life. What you mean is when you don't think about your language learning. You could still sound/write like and listen/read like an ignorant even if you think you've learned the entire (living) language.

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>>8868146
Well, simple texts are great if you want to pick up stuff like particles or a general feel of the language. More importantly, the sooner you start learning the most common jukugo the better.
Knowing 当 and 然 is well and good but if you don't know 当然 it's not going to help much.
If you learn through kanji damage or one of the core vocabulary anki decks you're probably learning some jukugo already, but it's definitely better to see them in varied contexts.

If your grammar is very basic you're not going to read a serious novel anyway, so it's kind of a waste to wait until you've learnt 2000 kanji just to read some children's stories. Which are probably all in kana anyway.

Really there's zero reason not to start learning grammar and read shitty texts as soon as you start learning kanji.
If nothing else it's kana reading practice.

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I hate being able to read vns with high understanding but not being able to form a gramatically correct sentence when talking.

Apparently this can be solved with a few months of intense conversation. However, I hate talking to strangers, and I hate most people. Forever stuck in shitty mode.

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>>8868265
I learn at least 5 jukugo of that day's new kanji and I have the most used ones down. I don't keep track of my overall vocabulary so I can't attach a number to it.

So, do you know of a good place that has low level books that has a decent amount of kanji? From the way your putting I didn't let my knowledge of the language grow naturally.

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>>8868185
Even if you sound like someone who dropped out of high school, you wouldn't be ignorant of the language per se. You'd have an excellent grasp on the popular manner of speaking and you could express yourself like a proper white trash slob, with the appropriate mispronunciations and grammatical flaws expected of someone of your social standing. You would thus be perfectly fluent in that tongue.

The biggest problem people who learn languages academically tend to have is that they can't express themselves casually enough, or basically don't say what native-speakers expect them to say, so their speech sounds inappropriate. Once you can express yourself in a manner that native speakers find natural for you, you can consider yourself perfectly fluent in the language.
The only reason to keep going past that point is academic or professional considerations.

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>>8868265
>Knowing 当 and 然 is well and good but if you don't know 当然 it's not going to help much.

Sure, but two times out of three*, knowing kanji X and kanji Y is, in fact, going to help you understand the word XY.

*source of the statistic: my colon

>there's zero reason not to start learning grammar and read shitty texts as soon as you start learning kanji

Yes, there is a reason. Not everyone is motivated enough to read shitty texts. I, for one, can only keep up practicing if what I'm reading is interesting to me in the first place.

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I just started basic reps a few days ago. I started with Kana (which I mostly have down pretty well, except for some katakana), and now Im on Japanese core 2000 step 1 for vocab. I plan to do all the core2000 decks for vocab, and then read up on grammar while going through a full kanji deck. Any suggestions, or am I on the right track?

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>>8868389
>Sure, but two times out of three*, knowing kanji X and kanji Y is, in fact, going to help you understand the word XY.
It's going to help you remember the meaning of word XY and how it's written, sure.
Deducing XY from X+Y doesn't work well if you care at all about the precise meaning though.
Basically knowing the kanji isn't at all a substitute for having a real vocabulary, but it's a tool for building one.

>Not everyone is motivated enough to read shitty texts.
Well, if you say so. I can have fun translating spam ads so I didn't even consider that.

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I'll do it tomorrow.

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>>8868398
You probably want to leave the core vocabulary deck for later, because it a) has example sentences showing how the word is used in context, which requires some grammar knowledge to appreciate and b) IT USES KANJI, and in my experience you're going to run into unknown kanji in your vocab deck pretty often.

But it's still feasible. It's just smarter to grind kanji for at least a month before.

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>review number tripled since yesterday