/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

>Nasu: Just like Urobuchi-san said, it's difficult to call the relationship between Shirou and Saber a relationship between a man and a woman. Saber has fought for a long time as the ruler of Britain, but then turned into a girl all of a sudden and fell in love with Shirou. It's pretty ridiculous when you think about it. But I really wanted to push it towards that sort of boy-meets-girl story. So as a last resort, I had Shirou continually say things to her like "But you're a girl," and "Girls aren't supposed to fight," in order to remind the users that "she is really a girl." It's like the author's actually the one trying to convince Saber that she's a girl... I feel like I could have written it a lot better now, but that was the best I could do at the time.

http://www.tsukikan.com/miscellanea/nasu-kinoko-takeuchi-takashi-urobuchi-gen-special-forum.html

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah Fate is shit, we know

[Anonymous No.]

And that's why HF > UBW > Fate

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah Nasu is autistic, we know

[Anonymous No.]

Well I mean, though, king Arthur isn't a girl. You'd have to say it a lot to get me to agree with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8698712
But, maybe he wanted to be the little girl, like we do. You never know, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>But you're a girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>8698704
>I have this really powerful core idea of all these English spirits engaged in a Battle Royale,
>Eiyuu
>English spirits
I laughed more than I should have

[Anonymous No.]

I cringe everytime I read something like "I can't believe she looks like a frail regular weak girl" when the MC bones the random sword girl in eroge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8698955
this

[Anonymous No.]

Nasu want to write female leads. He said it many times.

He was pretty much forced to make male leads because VN's with male leads sell better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8698955
Still not as bad as the boner kill that is, "It's okay because we're not related by blood."

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>>8698963
How about you suck my DICK

[Anonymous No.]

>>8698723
my fce when GIS'ing this shows up "nice romance"

[Anonymous No.]

愛 tier: 桜。
恋 tier: セイバー、 凛。

Sakura confirmed as the heroine who Shirou loves. Gen still ships him with Rin. Saber and Shirou work better as a bromance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8698961
maybey he should make an otome game
I'd read it

[Anonymous No.]

So he's finally outing Saber as a transsexual man? That took them so long. Are they encouraged because of Beato?

[Princess of the Crystal !!icIm/7OlYEI No.]

That sounds like a horribly confused translation, or trolling.

I kind of get what he's saying though, but I didn't see in the game myself.

[Princess of the Crystal !!icIm/7OlYEI No.]

>>8705659

I don't think he means literally turned into a girl all of a sudden. Saber spent most of her life posing as a "male" King Arthur, now suddenly she was thrust into a relationship with a guy that treated her like a girl.

Unless the Grail just fucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

I like how jap writers are still able to consider how gender affects character interactions. I'm so sick of brainwashed feminists spouting shit like "gender doesn't matter to a well written character."

[Anonymous No.]

>>8705671

Trans man = female sex (vaggo), male gender (self identification as a king, a man).

Nasu confirms that Rin is from another gender aka female.

I read the original scan. He speaks of how much regrets writing the parts where he tries to "convince Saber" that s/he is a girl.

[Anonymous No.]

saber's personality was dull and her chemistry with shirou was non-existent, easily the worst written of the 3 leads

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Saber the most popular FSN?
- Worst route
- No personality
- No tits
- No interesting quirks (LOL SHE EAT A LOT XD)
- Shitty hairstyle

[Anonymous No.]

I find endearing that Nasu is so honest about his past mistakes as a writer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8705710

On the other hand, I can't count the number of times someone has wanted to write in a female character but despairs because "I can't write for a GIRL!". Being able to see how a character's environment and upbringing effects then later in life is a valuable skill, but in the end your character is your character, and it is almost impossible to write someone's gender wrong, only poorly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8705729

Tragic background, able to fight, the parts where Shirou wasn't forcing her to be uguu were well written and touching (without sexualizing them, I could picture them more as pals than a couple), gender issues (REALLY popular).

Her design is really good, get out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8705671
people get chosen to become heroes from every universe or so it goes.

After all there is a male Arthur in the nasuverse as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8705729
>no personality

She has a lot of personality in FZ (prideful, jugdmental, honorable, compassionate, dutiful, stoic). She has more chemistry with Iri and Diarmuid than she ever had with Shirou. She even appears to openly flirt with them sometimes.

What happened? Did the Lancelot thing mindfucked her that much?

[Anonymous No.]

Now, I liked Rin more, and I think she's a better character overall, but fuck me if I don't consider Saber a ridiculously well executed instance of a moe character.

She's pretty much a textbook example, and Nasu should be acknowledged for that, as it's pretty much his finest contribution.

[Freezing !BASARADtDc No.]

Prof that Fate route is stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>8705729
>Why is Saber the most popular FSN?
She fights the most in the entire novel.
She has a dress, and metal armour.

[Anonymous No.]

This interview once again makes me question why Saber is on most of all promotional anything Fate related.
The arguments in the interview are pretty accurate, yet they print and publish her everywhere.

And while Saber is admittedly not a bad character, it still almost gives the impression that she maintains her special position by simply having her special position and being on all promotional stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8705838
saber is takeuchi's favorite so he draws her the most

[Anonymous No.]

>>8705838
Because she's goddamn moe.

Simple as that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8705838
Exotic foreigner

[Princess of the Crystal !!icIm/7OlYEI No.]

>>8705729

I think part of the reason is that she's a strong female fighter that isn't relegated to a magic/support role, isn't tsundere, whatever.

She doesn't have the quirkiest personality, but I think she's a good character for what she is.

I like her better in Fate/Zero though. Girls in s00ts are so pro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8705838

She mostly always tops the polls, the only time Ryogi beat her was when the KnK fever was high.

That's why she gets more promo material.

At least they have learned the large majority of their fanbase don't give a fuck about her romance with Shirou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8705803
she's also blonde

[Anonymous No.]

>>8705886

This. I find her very tragic and flawed. I like her better in Zero because she acts more openly playful and is more prideful (even if this is a flaw sometimes, it makes her appealing).

Also she has way more chemistry with Iri and the Zero Servants (in general for relationship), so she meshes better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8705869
Didn't he like Sakura or something?
As far as I am aware it was Nasu that had a thing for blondes and Takeuchi just liked armor dresses.

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>8706009
No. Takeuchi has said that Seiba is his favorite female F/SN character. Berserker is his favorite male.

Nasu's favorites were Rider and Kotomine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8706009

Dark Sakura is Gen's waifu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8706051
Fitting

[Anonymous No.]

>>8706067

He's got good taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8706077

Indeed he does