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Do you guys ever go so long without talking that you lose your voice?

I was at the store today and I tried answering the cashier's questions but words just didn't come out of my mouth. It was pretty embarrassing and she genuinely thought I was a mute who was mouthing words to her.

I can talk now but my voice sounds like a prepubescent boy with a sore throat. It's starting to worry me.

>> No.8662821

Sounds like you're not sucking enough cocks.
Need to loosen up that throat.

>> No.8662817

It happened to me once, but not to the extent that it happened to you...

>> No.8662818

I have to talk to my family.

Maybe it would happen if I was living alone, but alas, I don't live in a welfare state.

>> No.8662819

I sing to myself when no one is around.

>> No.8662822

No. That is why you talk to yourself. Take it as a habit.

>> No.8662827
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>>8662821
Get out of /jp/, underage homo.

>> No.8662828

Awhile ago when I was in NEET mode. But now I'm talking quite a bit.

>> No.8662830

Yes, though it wasn't that bad.

>> No.8662837

>>8662827
Suck my cock dude

>> No.8662840

The main reason it wasn't that bad for me, was probably because I talk to myself sometimes, when I'm sure that I'm alone.

It's more like reading things aloud to myself, actually, rather than talking to myself... But whatever.

>> No.8662857

No, I'm constantly talking to myself throughout the day.

>> No.8662866

I don't think I've ever quite lost my voice.

But one time when I out of the country for about 3 months in a country absolutely zero English use. I forgot how to spell basic words like "bored," which I spelled "board."

>> No.8662870

This isn't an issue for me and it wouldn't be an issue even if I were alone all day every day because I constantly catch myself singing or humming along to songs.

>> No.8662874

Nah, I'm not a retarded faggot.

>> No.8662880

All the time, my voice sounds fucking week when I do talk.

I also forget a lot of words from my native language, because I use english almost 100% of time, at this point I even think in english.

>> No.8662911

>>8662866
I was in NEET mode once while my roommate was away and was doing nothing but studying japanese. At one point I walked to 7-11 and half mumbled japanese / broken English. The fact that I had to say something caught me completely off guard.

>> No.8662914

I talk to myself and sing throughout the day, so no. I especially like to sing "夢はなにいろ?" in a voice mimicking the voice in the song while pretending I'm a little girl.

>> No.8662932

Holy crap dude what?

How long did you go without talking? This happens after months of not uttering a single word.

>> No.8662929

>>8662914
Also I'm black.

>> No.8662936

I talk to myself / make vocal comments when I'm reading /jp/ / eroge

>> No.8662939

>>8662929
Stay inside. Or i will find you. And i will slap you.

>> No.8662972

>>8662939
But the weather's gotten so nice lately. I'm planning on going out this Friday afternoon for a drive, perhaps to a tea shop or an asian market for some tea and sweets.

>> No.8662983

>>8662932
Uh... 9 months?

Is that bad?

>> No.8663126

It's not possible to go more than a few days without using your voice unless you have severe mental illness. Even if you have nobody to talk to, you would eventually talk to yourself.

>> No.8663131

>>8662983

You've ascended to monk status.

>> No.8663133

yeah.

>> No.8663144

>>8663126
This. I don't believe it, even after I don't meet anyone after many days I still laugh reading/watching stuff and saying things like "What the fuck, why would he do that" and the like.

>> No.8663155

>>8663126
I do, but I don't actually say anything since my walls are paper thin. The most I do is burp or very quietly whisper expletives to myself which usually just consists of me making the fffffffffffffffffffff- sound with my teeth and lips rather than my vocal chords.

It feels like there's a thin membrane between my mouth and my throat but in front of my breathing passage, if that makes any sense.

Boy, I'm sounding pretty autistic right about now.

>> No.8663234

I talk to myself a lot.

I call it "verbalizing my thoughts."

>> No.8663238
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8663238

I keep forgetting words when I talk to people. Names of things and people, and abstract contexts mainly. Terrible experience, I sound like a simpleton.

>> No.8663259

>>8663238
This.
Also, I only talk to myself when there are people to hear it. If no one is there to listen, I won't make the effort to vocalize it.

>> No.8663283

>>8663238
Ah yes, this. It's like my language keeps getting simpler every day.

>> No.8663298

I've never gotten that bad. At worst, I get really inarticulate. It's frustrating because when I'm typing I have no trouble parsing together decent sounding sentences, but then when I try to talk I end up sounding like a confused 3rd grader about 50% of the time.

My voice itself is fine, but that's probably because I sing a lot when I'm alone.

>> No.8663327

I never talk to myself. I always just think... to myself.

In my head, me thinking and me talking sound exactly the same, as I have savant autist level aural memory and can recreate any voice in my head perfectly as if someone was really talking, so I barely notice my difference other than being aware that I'm not using my ears.

Talking feels less efficient when I can just think out scenarios of me talking with multiple voices and whatnot.

>> No.8663339

>>8663298

I do this too. Singing has helped a bit.

But my voice sounds weird no matter what I do. It's either a gay guy or a girl. No help to me at all.

>> No.8663345

I read out other people's posts on /jp/ as if they were talking to me, sometimes I assign specific accents to certain anonymous I recognize.

Then i talk out my reply as I type

It's kind of like holding a conversation

>> No.8663416

Question: Can you be a NEET if you do a lot of things outdoors? And is there a separate term for people like that? Because despite being an unemployed, parasitic, friendless waste of space, I spend a hell of a lot of time hunting and fishing.

>> No.8663428

>>8663416
What you're thinking of is a hikikomori who never goes outside. You can still qualify being a NEET even when you leave the house as long as you aren't working or in school.

>> No.8663488

>>8663428
Ah, that's what I thought; I'm familiar with the terms but I was just a bit unsure if and which applied because there seems to be a massive local overlap between hikkis and NEETs and nobody from around here seems to enjoy being outside.

>> No.8663532

>>8663488

It's pretty easy to keep straight if you know the acronym/what the Japanese means:

NEET = Not in Employment Education or Training

hikikomori = shut-in

>> No.8663596

>>8663532
I do know. I was just wondering if there was some sort of special term or subdivision for NEETs that regularly do things outside and/or enjoy the outdoors as most NEETs (on both sides of the Pacific) seem to be formed firmly in the "play VNs and hang out on a 'chan or two while waiting for money to go buy booze." mold and Japanese terminology is often fairly rigid when dealing with the classifications of various things.

>> No.8663871

>>8663596
The term you are looking for is trueNEET.
This subgroup also shit and piss on the floor in addition to being a neet hikki.

>> No.8663878

>>8663532
If the definition is just 'shut-ins', then it's actually possible that some hikkis are actually employed?

>> No.8663885

>>8663878
Yeah. I work online.

>> No.8663887

>>8663878
We have some freelance programmers but the vast majority of jobs require that you leave your domicile at least some of the time.

>> No.8663897

>>8663885
So then the definition of hikki doesn't necessarily imply complete social ineptitude either right? I mean for all jobs you've got to make some degree of human contact (even an occasional indirect e-mail or phone) with your employer or whatever right?

>> No.8663924

Yeah, I'm also a NEET without being a hikki.

The social anxiety sort of comes and goes... It hasn't let up this much since high school, though, and I'm diving headfirst into the big, wide world while I have the nerve. Hopefully, I'll make a full recovery.

I'll never give up NEET life, though. I'd never be able to function in a workplace anyway... It'd probably just trigger an anxiety relapse.

>> No.8664159

You can try to make let's play or vlog and as a bonus earn a million dollars from ads.

>> No.8664184

>>8664159
I've kind of wanted to start a vlog. I've never owned a video camera though, and I don't think I'd ever get one just for making videos. If I had the money, I would buy and use some kind of Sony NEX, since I have a small handful of lenses that would be perfect for use on them. But in the end most videos would just be me rambling to myself, anyway. Maybe I'd prepare some tea while talking, but that's really it. I'm way too shy to put a video with my face online.

As for the let's play videos... I'd just rather not.

>> No.8664208

I wish I was a mute.

>> No.8664249

>>8662880
what's your native language? I do this too, by the way.

>> No.8664262

>>8664249
Me too, my own language sounds dumb.

>> No.8664265

>>8663144
Sometimes I respond in a dumb voice when I see dumb things posted on /jp/ or anywhere else on the internet. For example, I might say "whatta fuk" when encountering something especially stupid. I sometimes voice some pastas posted on /jp/ too.

>> No.8664271

Yes, when I lived alone for that year. I'd only leave the house once a month to go buy groceries and check the mail at around 3am.

It's actually a somewhat frightening experience, like having a nightmare where you can't scream. In my cases though my voice would come back fairly quickly.

However it wasn't as much "forgetting how to talk" as it was "forgetting what volume to speak at." I forgot just how much air you have to push through your throat to let people hear the vibrations.

>> No.8664269

>>8664184
You can just buy a webcam for $20 for vlogs.

>> No.8664270

>>8663345
>accents to certain anonymous I recognize.

Quite a few people said this here, but I still don't understand how that works. How can you be sure it's the person you think it is? How do you know who this person is?

And given that most posts on /jp/ are a few sentences long, I don't see how you would be able to pick up on it at all.

>> No.8664277

>>8664269
I've just been looking into buying a NEX for a while. It's not like I'd ever start a vlog anyway...

>> No.8664280

>>8663871
What you're referring to as "trueNEET" is, in fact, Hikikomori NEET, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Hiki plus NEET, or just HiKiNEET.

>> No.8664282

>>8664270
When you spend enough time here I guess you start to recognize the regulars through their word choice and sentence structure, or maybe they'll talk about something specific, like a certain fetish or something.

>> No.8664285

Have you guys ever had a problem understanding someone else who is speaking regular english? It's the only language I know but every once in a while someone can be talking to me and I can't make out their words. LIke I hear them perfectly fine, it's just my brain doesn't seem to be able to comprehend what the words mean. I'll have to keep saying 'what? what?" several times and they give me strange looks.

When I get this way I also get really jumpy, like with bangs on walls and stuff. I generally try to stay inside when I feel it coming on.

>> No.8664288

>>8664282
But how do you know they're individuals, as opposed to, say, a group of people that happens to use the same words and structure their sentences in the same way.

Maybe I just lack the skills you posses, but if I didn't know better, I would say that /jp/ has about 5 people who generate all the content. The posting style is so consistent across all threads, that it's really hard for me to tell people apart.

>> No.8664293

>>8664288

Autistic kids are able to recognize patterns that others can't see easily

>> No.8664294

>>8664262
What language would that be?

>> No.8664299

>>8664285
Only once when someone was telling me a phone number. He said it kind of like this:

xxxx|xxx|xxx

Each | is a pause. Normally you would say the area code and pause, then the first three and pause, and then the last four, right? It was so confusing and I felt like an idiot asking him to write it down. He had a sister who used to make fun of me.

>> No.8664551

I don't lose my voice as I talk and sing alone. I also have to talk to some people through VoIP when I'm playing THE GAEMS.

>> No.8664575

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/the_sorry_lives_and_confusing_times_of_today_s_young_men/

>> No.8664592

>>8664575
> The women are a little bewildered. They’re good girls.

>> No.8664606

Never lost my voice completely, but it usually takes some time before I can normalize it. (first words tend to be garbled)
Can't handle talking for any prolonged period of time. My throat starts to hurt.
I've lost most of my oratory skills I had 4 years ago.
Nobody seems to hear me when I talk even though I think I talk loud enough.
I just get scared and very disoriented when it comes to talking to cashiers, doctors and such.

A year ago, I had a friend I could talk on a regular basis and nerds to play video games with. It was getting easier to talk. But somehow it all went to shit.

Just needed to blogpost somewhere.

>> No.8664609

>>8663238
At this point it's easier for me to talk in english than in my native language.
I don't know or don't remember a lot of normal words.

>> No.8664610

>>8664609
Same here. And that even though I actively go to college.

>> No.8664618

>>8664610
>>8664609
>>8664249
>>8664262
>>8662880

/jp/ is so similar, oh god.
I feel disturbed knowing there are so many equally messed up people.
Steals my unique snowflake flavor.

>> No.8664623

>“The majority of the guys my age that I meet are immature,” says Jessica ­Claremon, a blunt, outspoken 24-year-old who grew up in Fort Washington and now lives in New York City, where she works for Nickelodeon. “I would never call them ‘men.’”

The majority of the women my age that i meet are BITCHES AND WHORES. I would never call them "women".

>> No.8664627

My voice is legit high pitched and weird because I've never spoken enough, and at this point the damage is done and I'll always sound weird. Ritalin, bullying, moving schools, being punched in the face by a random stranger have really helped my outgoingness wonders over the years.

>> No.8664632

>>8664627
I want ritalin for my studies.

>> No.8664637

>>8664575
Oh my god, those comments. It's PotC x20.

>> No.8664641

>I learned everything about women in one week of my life. I spent 4 years in college single. I would have loved to have a woman to come home to at night but no, I wasn't good enough for any of them. Then I graduated. Got a dot.com job in the first week for $55K. Showed off my check to one of my ex classmates and the word got out. Within 2 days, four girls, barely legal, started pursuing me, wearing the shortest miniskirts that were legal. Guess what? I told them all to f**k off. "You didn't want me a week ago, you don't want me now. Sorry, but I can afford my own woman". Been single ever since. Get all my sex from pr0n and escorts. It works out much cheaper than the real thing and no child support lawsuits. You ladies have "Sex and the City" and "Desperate Housewives". I have my pr0n and escorts. See Ya.

This man knows the truth.

>> No.8664668

>>8664606
>Can't handle talking for any prolonged period of time. My throat starts to hurt.
Oh, the same happens to me. I wonder why. Just a few words for appearing normal are fine, but if I have to explain something or talk continuously for more than ten or twenty seconds, I get a sore throat and it becomes difficult to produce sound.

>> No.8664674

>>8664632
You really don't.

>> No.8664682

I've never lost my voice but my mouth starts to hurt if I have to talk for more than 5 minutes. I also found I can barely write anymore when I tried to leave myself a note the other day.

>> No.8664684

>>8664674
Why not?

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>>8664575
You know who's to blame for this right?

Femenism is a product of critical theory, which originated from frankfurt school. Now what group of people was it that started this deal...

>> No.8664698

>>8664693
>Now what group of people was it that started this deal...
Germans.
Fucking Germans, ruining everything for everyone since forever.
I think we need to bill them for some more reparations, oy

>> No.8664700

>>8662818
how do i become welfare

>> No.8664701

>>8664698
It's true, the whole Nazi thing just made the Jews more powerful than ever.

>> No.8664706

Are you guys trying to summon PoTC or something?

>> No.8664710

I have a deep voice, which I like hearing and using, so no. I don't really ever have a problem with speaking. Sometimes I'll take a pause to collect my thoughts, which seems to be viewed as perfectly normal.

I have a real problem with looking at people in the eye after a long time, though.

Like if I'm talking for the first time in a few days, I'll hold the entire conversation with a drink on the table, or the window near me, or your neck. All the while speaking perfectly normally.

People who think it's unsettling (i.e. most) are people I probably can't ever get along with, as I've never been a fan of eye contact even when "normal," but I've had some pretty long, pleasant conversations with people who are perfectly fine with it.

>> No.8664711

>>8664706
Are you?
People should stop throwing his name around, it's a recipe for disaster.

>> No.8664714

>>8664710
I was always lectured about making eye contact too. it's uncomfortable looking at people in the eye because I can't help but feel it either has to be a challenging staredown or in a romantic sense.

>> No.8664732

I seriously can't be the only one who talks to his cats.

>> No.8664740

>>8664714
I used to feel like this too, but then I tried to accept them as challenging staredowns and gather the courage to not be the one to look down, and since then I've gotten a little more used to it and find it easier to make eye contact naturally.

I think a lot of social awkwardness comes from too high self-awareness, which can be fought by trying your best to not give a shit what others might think of you, and stick with it until you get used to the situation and don't feel as comfortable.

Please try to improve, anon. I don't want you to become a normalfag, but life becomes so much easier when you can walk outside without being crippled by anxiety.

>> No.8664755

I can never make eye contact unconsciously, but when I think about it I can do it. However, I've been told it makes people feel uncomfortable, like I am staring really hard at them.
I don't get it, but usually I don't bother because I feel more comfortable not making eye contact.

>> No.8664768

>>8664755
Same. People say I look too much, too "deep" into their eyes, which makes them uncomfortable and sometimes intimidated.

But usually my eyes just wander around the place if I just let them be.

>> No.8664813

>>8664732
My cat is the only one I can talk normally to.
When I speak to people they don't understand me because I'm always too quiet. It's embarassing when they have to ask me three times what I said.

>> No.8664820

>>8664159
You need a PhD in normalology and a master's in charisma and attentionwhoring before you can consider starting.

>> No.8664832

>>8664684
Not that guy but I've started taking Ritalin. Sure it helps you concentrate a little more but it does NOT make studying any more fun or easier. In fact, there was no change, at least for me, in getting started by just opening a textbook. I instead either end up playing pointless videogames for hours or falling asleep. When I do find something like maybe writing Kanji I am able to concentrate better, but I was able to do that before anyway. I was hoping it would let me stay on topic and focus after opening my boring textbooks but my luck was not so great. Also, as soon as you stop taking it you begin to feel even slower and lethargic from before. I feel like need Ritalin now just to able to function normally.

>> No.8664831

>>8664820
>master's in charisma
I wish I could study charisma under Remilia.

>> No.8664846

>>8664740
You need to become a normalfag in order to get a job so you can have money for nice things such as my chinese girl cartoon figurines. There's no other way.

>> No.8664857

>>8664846
Do not worry, I'm planning on killing myself soon anyway.

>> No.8664861

>>8664832
This pretty much sums up my experience with adderall too. Instead of studying something uninteresting, I'd just think about how well I'd do on touhou or something and go proceed to do that until I crash, instead.

>> No.8664868

>>8664861
What the hell. That's a much better way of describing all that crap I wrote. But yes that's pretty much what I would do. I'm planning on dropping it little by little. It really didn't help me at all, at least benzos made things more interesting.

>> No.8664889

>>8664868
Benzos helped me too, when I could afford them. The lack of anxiety did wonders for my attention span. Good luck with dropping the amphetamines, anon.

>> No.8664902

>>8664889
Thanks. I'm going try lowering my dosage by half this week and see how it goes from there. It's how I dropped benzos, sort of. I only dropped them because my pysch told me to do it. I still feel the need and want to take them.

I still have a bunch of unused benzos, sometimes I still take at least half of it when I go to classes. But I don't rely on it anymore.

>> No.8665197

>>8664902
Amphetamines and benzos are NOT the type of drugs that you can safely do every single day, at any dosage.

Addiction and withdrawal are hell, not to mention the neurotoxic effects if you aren't keeping a healthy diet, which most of /jp/ isn't.

Yes they are fun in their own respective ways, and they do enhance real life to an extent, but don't abuse them, and certainly don't use them daily either.

>> No.8665233

>>8662827
if people followed what that image dictates, that would literally bring /jp/'s current population to 0.
I wish I was kidding.

also, suck my cock, dude

>> No.8665244

this thread would be quite a good source of research for a linguistic. I shall save it for eventual future needs.

>> No.8665265

>>8664710
I don't have a problem with eye contact, but if it goes on for too long everything except the person I'm staring at seems to start spinning

>> No.8665282

>>8664861
Oh hey, ADD drugs.

I've run the gamut of these things, and none of them ever helped for long. I can barely remember exactly what effects they had on me too, though I do remember roughly what happened when I ran out of adderall. Which involved me going 'holy shit what', and then cleaning out my apartment (which I hadn't done in ages), and then generally feeling a lot better about shit for the next couple days.

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