/jp/'s Original Content Thread #63

[Anonymous No.]

General original content/drawthread for /jp/ers. You may use this thread to contribute your works or to share ideas related to possible projects. Anything OC is welcomed; including drawings, writings, music, and programming.

Previous thread: >>8574663

[Anonymous No.]

Wow thats a pretty cute drawing OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>rokusan
Based on that go and create!

[Anonymous No.]

bump.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

I've gotten a lot more comfortable with blender and 3D modelling, and I've tried out the Cycles Render, which is awesome.
Just look at that glass!

[Anonymous No.]

63 is the times i fuked your mom

[Anonymous No.]

>>8636513
So, what is it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637014
A loli's body without her legs and arms.

[Anonymous No.]

Happy image!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8636513
is google sketchup any good? or is blender better?

[Anonymous No.]

Rule 63 theme time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637022

I see. Where are her other body parts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637035
hidden deep in the darkest caverns, guarded by an evil wizard.

[wtH !!geIKdOh6/lP No.]

there was a question on forumspring that asked to write a short story, mine turned out lewd as HELL so i never posted it but here it is. it's called "Sanae a shit"

Sanae was hanging out with Kanako and she suddenly farted. Kanako was grossed out and Sanae found it funny. Sanae went around farting around others and laughing as they were grossed out. She went to Rinnosuke's shop to troll and he kept losing a lot of customers. He was growing pissed and kicked Sanae's crotch and she fell down to her knees. He pulled down her skirt and started fucking her anus while shouting "HELL YEAH" with a crazy look on his face kind of like Accelerator from Toaru Majutsu no Index as she was crying for forgiveness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637035
I actually made the other body parts too, but when I apply the smooth subdivision her hands and feet fuck up.
I'll post some images.

>>8637031
They're very different.
I'd never use SketchUp for people, but I'd definitely use it for architectural drawings, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637442
Here it is without subdivision.

[Anonymous No.]

Here's an image using another renderer.

[Anonymous No.]

This is a bit of cross-content, but it still goes here.

I don't know if you pay attention to them, but one of the anons in the MMD/3DCG threads made a model that I find particularly attractive,for obvious reasons( I'm just a sucker for long black twintails).

You can view her here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yIbUs03Nrs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDt0fJeE8g0&feature=related

I don't want to muck up their threads, so if that anon sees this, thank you for letting me draw her.

[Anonymous No.]

I made a couple of different versions but couldn't do her default outfit, sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

Crits pls

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637967
>>8637971
Very good! Though I hate comically huge tits with a passion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638009

I like them, what is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638016
Who knows. Maybe I am a closet homosexual or I was almost suffocated to death by monstrously large breasts as a child.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637474
not enough wires

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637967
>>8637971
Good work man, always been a fan of his character myself

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637971
do you also have a naked version? those 2 look almost identical, except the different clothes layer and eyes.

[The girl that plays LoL !nPTra5p7dY No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638136
>lol i troll u
You have 1 minute to explain yourself

[Anonymous No.]

Or you can just ignore him/her/it

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638136
That was ZUN quality!

You've even hidden the hands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638021
That's on purpose.
If I started added polygons wherever I saw fit, I'd be more like sculpting.
Until I can create a basic human shape without effort, then I'll go ahead and make something a bit more realistic.

[Anonymous No.]

I really love the Cycles Render.
However, when leaving it on for long enough (This was 500 samples, took almost 10 minutes on a two-way GTX 570 SLI with CUDA enabled) white pixels start randomly appearing. Some of them disappear again, but they really annoy me.
How do I minimize the amount of them without killing my PC?

Also, where are all the music creators?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638268
Whoa, that's way more saturated than the preview.
I wonder what gives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638268
Musician here. Sorry, we're all dead.

[Anonymous No.]

I learned to play the right hand part of Canon in D by Pachelbel today.
I own a midi-keyboard, and I can connect it to my PC.
How would I go about recording it, and possibly edit it, change instruments and so on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638268
My latest remixes haven't been /jp/ related unfortunately

[Anonymous No.]

Been waiting for this. It's been forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637971
>>8637967
I'm having difficulty coming up with words besides thank you. I almost tried responding in Japanese, as if that's more emphatic, but I can't do that here. I'll have to figure out a way to repay you someday. I know people here can be sensitive about your art so I won't gush anymore than this. The pose is great and something I would have imagined.

This makes me really want to do something more. Damn it. I need to make the model into something people will actually want to use... I wish my health hadn't dropped back in November.

I doubt there is, but if there's ever anything you'd like to see MMD wise, feel free to ask. Can't guarantee anything, though.

[Anonymous No.]

ゴーストモード

/jp/'s Original Content Thread #63

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637967
>>8637971
God those tits. I need them, anyway nice job Mag. One day when you're bored or having nothing to draw.
Draw Reimu with those tits in a similar pose.

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>>8639267
>I almost tried responding in Japanese, as if that's more emphatic, but I can't do that here.
It might have been so, but however you want to express it, I'm glad to do this. Don't worry about repaying me, just keep making content of her. I don't want to steal her away from you or anything like that, but I do hope you wouldn't mind if I doodled her from time to time. I actually have to apologize for drawing this one without your consent, the 'older is flat/younger is busty' roles with my own characters juxtaposed so well that it happened on impulse. Anyway, in the end I hope there's a cycle of content being made for her.

>>8639777
Titty miko is always nice, and it's been a while, so I'll try to keep it in mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637482
>>8637474
You might consider building the limbs using an orthogonal rotoscope image. It'll help. Some renders (or just screenshots) from a different angle will help us critique.

I think the edge loops around the waist area is a little wonk too.

Whale biologist.

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>>8640309
Feel free.

I'm going to have to learn Blender at least enough to use subsurface division on her leggings, reweight her arms, finish her eyes, and add some other bonus stuff before I can consider the model finished. I try not to complain too much about specific consistent problems with the model, but those are my plans.

At any rate, thanks. I'll be posting some stuff(notes/pic/video) in the TDCG/MMD thread soon, don't want to clutter this thread. Also, I was a little surprised you got the color/look of her nipples right. Did you just guess or did you get it from an image I didn't post on /jp/?

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>>8640326
An orthogonal rotoscope image? I can see how that would be helpful, but I guess they're kind of scarce.

I don't notice anything about the waist, except a couple of triangles.
I'll post a front shot and side shot too.
I'll remake this model some time tomorrow, I simply don't have the time today.

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>>8640701

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>>8640708

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>>8638268
I'm trying to finish one of my older projects, and its not /jp/ related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8640711
The legs are terrible. Not only are the knees way too low, the muscles are all over the place. Looks like tree trunks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638564
FL Studio and ReFX Nexus 2 is what I use.
Works great.

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>>8642664
I know the name Fruity Loops, but I couldn't figure that shit out for my life. Do you have a preferred source of tutorials or such?
Also, I googled ReFX Nexus 2, and I thought it had redirected me to apple.com.

[Tokiko No.]

Imagine this: A squirming, pulsating swan cloaca. It's not something that you just come across every day. It truly takes dedication to catch one of those fuckers in the first place. Tying it down somewhere, while helpful, takes even more skill. But let's get back to the point: A swan, somewhere, has its glorious hole exposed to you. Is it a boy? A girl? You can't fucking tell with swans. They've evolved past the concept of gender. So you got a 50/50 chance you're a wholesome swan fucker (if there is such a thing) and a faggoty swan fucker. But these are odds I can live with.

Fitting in the tip is just the first step. You'll think, ``God, it's so tight, I'm going to explode!" And meanwhile the swan's screaming its head off, flapping its wings like there's no tomorrow. The swan may not know what you were up to before, but now, this fucker definitely knows. There's no way he couldn't. And you just keep sliding your dick into his hole, another inch after inch. It feels like it'll never end. The swan's wings flap in slow motion, and you can see each feather slowly drift down to the ground. Fucking thing of beauty it is. And it grips your dick harder, the more it struggles. She's one of those Chinese fingertraps you used to play with for your dick.

By the time you're half in, the swan's bleeding. This just makes the whole experience more ethereal. Your dick's lubed up just a bit more. And the swan will soon stop struggling altogether, as she enters a kind of trance. Pump, grind. Pump, grind. Let's go a bit faster now. Slowly in, slowly out. Reality begins to speed up. And your member grows even harder and even larger. Pump, grind. Pump, grind.

[Tokiko No.]

You're going in deep now. Balls deep. And the swan opens her graceful beak again. But she's not screaming now. Cawwww, the swan moans. Cawwww. She's in a state of ecstasy too. The fucking swan's going to orgasm soon. As you shove your dick in and out of her, she starts moving her hips in rhythm with your own. And the swans moans grow louder, becoming some kind of mysterious swan growl. Carooo, she replies: Carooo. She orgasms, fiercely clenching your cock deep within you. Your cock speaks back to her in terms she'll understand: Splud.

Slowly, slowly now, you take your cock out. Milky crimson film, a symbol of unity between man and beast glistens on it. The magical wonderland of swan fucking is over, your mystical experience fading to the real world. To you, it was a lifetime. To the real world, it was five minutes. But that red cream is a sign that it happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8642673
Since FL studio is a very popular program, youtube is flooded with "tutorials" by 13 year olds. There are definitely a few good ones out there, but you need to cut through the crappy ones first, which are quite a lot.

The most important things to learn are probably:
1. the piano roll
2. Patterns/Playlists.
Try looking into these two; pretty much all principles of the program are based on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8642688
>>8642692
I love how one or two people chided you then ignored you on /lounge/, so you reposted it here.

[Anonymous No.]

>find a post with an image from this manga
>think it's pretty cool, look it up and start reading
>pic related happens
>Wow, moralfag shit out of nowhere.
>immediately drop manga

[Anonymous No.]

>>8642779
Get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.]

bump.

[Tokiko No.]

>>8642758
It's OC. This is an OC thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8642719
>>8642673

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>>8644094
Instead of placing notes in the pattern as in the first picture, you can also press the record button and then the play button to record from a MIDI keyboard, a computer keyboard, etc. Make sure the correct channel (in this case FL Keys) is selected.

(Also, newer FL Studio versions have the note name view also colored white/black, it's only gray in versions < 10.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8644111
Oh, right, I forgot to mention, if you're using FL Studio 10 you'll need to enable 'legacy pattern blocks' in the settings. Yeah, they're phasing out one of the key features of FL Studio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8644094
>>8644111
>>8644163
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8644079
Eat shit and die, fucking shitposter. Your crap is not even funny.

[Anonymous No.]

Man its like a ghost town in here.

[Anonymous No.]

Here's something of an OC of mine to bring some life to the thread. I did this for a make your own Nendoroid thread last week. I've never colored anything before, I obviously suck shit at that and drawing.

[Anonymous No.]

Sweaters, man.

[Anonymous No.]

i hope i didn't get the order wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>8646355
You don't suck, this rules!!!

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>>8647027
Oh god, that is so good! I was about to complain about the lack of Irisu lately but this was worth the wait. I really like her expressions and the bunny always give a good touch, I like the way you draw them.

Thank you for drawing that, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you still post in these threads 4koma-kun? I wish I could see more of your stuff ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>8647048

That seems sarcastic, but if you really think so, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8644094
>>8644111
>>8644163
Thanks for these images, they're very helpful.
I might, just might, convert a couple of tunes I've got in my head to .midi files.

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>>8647571
When you want to export to MIDI, instead of picking a random VST (like 'FL Keys' in the example), you have to pick 'MIDI Out' from the list, and you can select the MIDI instrument to use in the settings of the MIDI Out. If you don't get any sound from the MIDI Out, mess around with the audio settings until you do - even default settings should give the default piano (patch 0) sounds.
When exporting to a .mid file, it only exports the MIDI Out channels, ignoring the VST/sample/soundfont/etc channels.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm back again, assholes. Why the fuck won't you tell me how I can draw?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8649261
Sorry, it's impossible. Only people with extraordinary innate ability and god-given gift can draw. If you need to practice, you're not a real artist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8640340
I guessed. I'm glad I got them right, in that case.

It doesn't even look like her this time, though...more like adult proportions with her outfit...I think the angle isn't helping her look young, either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8640340
You make me feel more and more like I should get on the 3D wagon and learn some other media, too. I think I'm pretty sold at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8649261
If you want to draw, you must become insane. The people who draw the best, universally draw the most fucked up shit you can imagine.

I mean hell, even the kinda decent guy above me has some sort of giantess/breast expansion fetish.

[Anonymous No.]

Fruity Loops protip: delete all the bundled samples and remove all the synths from the list.Proceed to download new samples and VSTs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8649261
here's a step by step gudie
1. basic skeletal framework
2. rough sketch to flesh out the muscles
3. sub-line art layer to make the sketch stand out
4. fill in the rest

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>>8649999
I strongly disagree. PoiZone, Sytrus and especially the amazing Sawer can be useful despite being standard VSTs. FL Slayer can also be used well, but I don't recommend it to newbies as you're more likely to make your song sound bad and generic if you just use it as-is.

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>>8650299
Right then, how'd you learn to do that?

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>>8650361
http://www.succubi.org/db/perfectlyuseless/anime/how_to_draw/index.html
http://itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm
http://cedarseed.com/fire/tutorials.html
AND BEST OF ALL
http://youtu.be/WYaNos86ud8

[Anonymous No.]

>>8649926
>>8649940

Oppai loli with such proportions? I cannot believe it to be true. This is a woman, non loli, sexy and full as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8650396
Did you read any of the books they usually suggest in these threads? Did you start out with the animes?

[Anonymous No.]

Why am I such a failure

[Anonymous No.]

>>8650604
Dat face

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone taking requests?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8652055
You want to see akiha raping arcueid don't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8652150
No, I was more interested in a pic showing our dear meido beaten, abused, miserable and possibly raped.
She can be sobbing in a corner or facing the viewer with tears and blood adorning her bruised face while the perpetrator lifts her up by her collar/is holding her by the neck.

Consider this a request.

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>>8652497
Seconding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8652497
I like this request.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8652497
>>8652611
>>8652690
No. Keep your drama crap out of this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8652497
I meant "holding her by the throat", not "the neck".
Sounds like holding a fucking kitten.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8652717
I don't care about drama.
I would simply like to see a picture of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8650451
Yeah, next time I'll try to keep the loli look up.

Sorry in advance, modeler dude.

[Anonymous No.]

Not intended as OC, just posting this because it's related to his pic's comparison target

>>8649940
>>8649926
ktkr

Thank you for drawing these. Beyond simply thinking they're hot, I think seeing them sort of burns my competitive drive and is driving me to work on the model. I've gotten a lot done since you started. Also, it's nice to see things I can't do easily in MMD(breast deformation, flowing stranded hair, draping legwraps, etc). The concept for the ends of her arm wraps is beautiful. I'd steal it if I could. Maybe I'll use it as part of an alternative outfit; now that I think about it, that wouldn't really fit with fur unless I did something special.

I have a lot more to say in terms of why it looks adult, but I don't think I should post it here(length). One thing I'll post anyways is that it looks like there's no boundary between her right jaw and neck. Not sure if it's something you haven't added or if it's intended based on angle, but the jaw would probably help determine the look of her age a lot(thus the picture, but I imagine you were conscious of it).
P.S. You may not want to use the model in MMD if you do start, heh. Seeing everything that's bad about it up close/first hand will probably ruin any magic that's left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8650451
Yeah, next time I'll try to keep the loli look up.

Sorry in advance, modeler dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8652810
No way man, I am totally in love with more than just the look of her. The concept, everything, dude. This character is amazing.

Sorry, I was gonna fix the jaw in the coloring stage, but she still looks too old.

[Anonymous No.]

Breast Thread on JP award!

Congratulations!

Anon Modeler
Anon Artist

[Anonymous No.]

>>8652835

Oh you~

[Anonymous No.]

Attention!
Having waifus is an /a/ related habit. It doesn't belong on /jp/. So if you have a waifu and intend to talk about it, kindly leave.

/jp/ is for translators, artists and scholars of Japanese culture only. It is a place to create original content and engage in meaningful discussions. Not a place for man-children to salivate over imaginary cartoon girlfriends.

Now that this is settled, please continue.

PS: Stop jacking off to touhous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8652816
>>8652820
I'm envious of your ability to actually finish things with colors. Good quality too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8652820
>>8652816
I'll be back in a few hours...

Jokes(?) aside, that's a fantastic job in my book, no pun intended. She does look quite different so I can understand why you don't think so if the look was your goal, though. She was always intended as a sorceress with a sort of integrated succubus idea(thus Sweet Magic before Sweet Devil), and I love the look. And hey, a succubus should be able to shift appearance for the job, right? Either way, this one is my favorite so far. The earlier ones did seem to have an oddity with perspective/foreshortening involving the legs, despite how much I liked them otherwise.

Most of what I had to say was solved in the finished version. I imagine you've got the idea down for how to make a loli character yourself so I'll avoid writing that out. It's kind of hard if you want to stay faithful to the model because aside from her face, the short upper body and small hands are the only other indicators; everywhere else is sort of overdeveloped. I'm going to be posting a video in a bit of a morph I have that tones down the difference in the waist and hips, though.

If you do end up trying MMD don't hesitate to ask me anything. I'm not sure how a Himari model would be done if that's primarily what you're in it for. I'll tell you the hair would be very difficult without Teto's(again), but beyond that it's something for the other thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8652973

go eat chalk

[Anonymous No.]

>>8652987

I am too man. If only I had such ability.

[Anonymous No.]

pchat anyone?
http://www.rosanbo.com/paintchat/room1/

[Anonymous No.]

>>8646355

Damn, this thread is hell of lifeless. Here's some more shitty drawing from me.

I decided to color the full body drawing I did for that Nendoroid. Obviously, I still can't color...or draw rather or just both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8646355

Damn, this thread is hell of lifeless. Here's some more shitty drawing from me.

I decided to color the full body drawing I did for that Nendoroid. Obviously, I still can't color...or draw rather or just both.

[Anonymous No.]

This is what I made today. My little sister screw up the paper ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>8653847
Delete your post without the image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8654090

I did.

You must be using 4chanX.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8653650
I would but my Java is playing up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8652983
Part of me wanted to avoid drawing the exact same facial/body proportions I use for Himari, even though their body type really is pretty similar(with Himari just being heavier up top). Not really sure why, either, but in the future I'll just do it anyway; I hadn't realized just how important the loli face was for your character, mostly because it seems like there's so few that enjoy LK specifically and I was reluctant to interpret it that way, but >>8652810 put my fear to rest.

If I do get into MMD I'd definitely be into it to make my own character, if nothing else. It seems like it's worth learning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8652816
>>8652820

Amazing job as usual.
Gotta saw though being a huge breast lover to the max myself. I liked the spoiled pic way more. O man those juicy tits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8654789
Hmm, I'm not sure if you mean you think it's very important or you think I do, but I like either look. I'm not averse to seeing a mature-looking rendition and I can't really do that well in MMD as it would require remodelling the face, which is kind of delicate because of its structure.

The body-shifting explanation isn't a joke I thought up for that post; I've humored the thought for a long time because in the past I frequently changed her proportions(up until I made changes I was stuck with) based on mood since it's pretty much a cinch with tso2pmd. I still do with alternative outfits.

I'm going to be making some MMD-related notes in the TDCG thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8650604

Looks like Sader. At least is a fun pic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8654789
Jesus christ how horrifying.

[Anonymous No.]

Those Nocturnes guys actually put something out, and apparently they made it less shitty than before. To be honest I'm just surprised to see something long term get done.

http://nocturnesonline.blogspot.com/2012/03/2012-winter-re-release.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>8656049
Shit sucks.

[Incompetent Leader !!Dasqo3muYoJ No.]

The Vienne visual novel short story project is still looking for artists. The art for Shining Arms is nearing completion, but The Girl and A Bunch of Nonsense still lack art (despite being otherwise complete). Are any of the artists here willing to draw a couple of pictures to illustrate the stories?

The stories can be found at http://jpvn.dyndns.org/index.php/The_Girl and http://jpvn.dyndns.org/index.php/A_Bunch_of_Nonsense..
The music can be found at http://jpvn.dyndns.org/index.php/Audio:The_Girl and http://jpvn.dyndns.org/index.php/Audio:A_Bunch_of_Nonsense..

[Anonymous No.]

>>8656049
I like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8656372
The hell is this? dyndns? The logo isn't even set.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8656372
Does it have to be colored?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8656381
> dyndns?
Because DOMAIN NAMES ARE EXPENSIVE.
> The logo isn't even set.
Shut your fucking face. It shouldn't even run MediaWiki in the first place. That shit is overkill for this project and you're pointing out the fact that they didn't set the logo variable? There isn't even a logo for the project proper. Suck a dick.

>>8656416
It's a visual novel you faggot. What do you think?

[Incompetent Leader !!Dasqo3muYoJ No.]

>>8656416
Unless non-colored somehow fits the style, coloring (even if simple) is preferred.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8656422
Ok sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>8656422
You call $10 a year expensive? And why don't you set up a simple page for it instead of whining because you're too lazy to change one variable.

Shouting at people and then expecting them to help you is not the way to go, just a tip.

[Anonymous No.]

Learning C++ and SFML by making a 2hu clone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8657343

Make some fun games man.

[Anonymous No.]

Never to be finished.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8657446
Looks good.

[Anonymous No.]

I made this. I didn't draw the original, but I did choose the color.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8657474
impressive.

[Anonymous No.]

Here's a sketch of a character I'm working on for a basic galge. It might have a really advanced story to it but not sure yet. I might make my first one simple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8657134
Please notice his use of the pronoun "they", indicating he is not in fact involved with the site himself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8657488
Looks good. Not sure about the centered ribbon though. Maybe it should be slightly off to one side?
If it's not too secret/embarrassing, could you type up a little more info? You have piqued my interest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8657565
Oh yeah, I'm gonna really fix it up when I get around to actually digital. As far as story goes for right now, it might end up being pretty generic...I dunno if the story I really would like to do is "special" or not, but I'm not too sure about how much sharing I can do since it's only slightly developed. But when I can think of a way to sum it up pretty well I'll post something again.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

i've always wanted to try drawing her . . .

[Anonymous No.]

>>8657745

That shit creeps me out, even in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8657565
Look at the leftmost face.

How can you tell the dude it "looks good"?

This kind of retarded circlejerking leads to the poor quality of OELVN.

If something looks like shit, don't be afraid to call people out on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8657749

unfortunately, I've never tried playing the game. Too scared myself to end up getting that image

[Anonymous No.]

>>8657758

Maybe it looks good to him, and maybe JUST maybe, his opinions are different than yours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8657723
Great equalizer is the death!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8657758

I know it's not amazing, it's just a rough sketch anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

I have finished that stupid walking stick but my camera broke and out transit system is on strike so i am poorer that usual. How should I decide who to give it away to once i can afford to ship it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8657762
Yay more Irisu!

You should play the game. You will be able to grasp more of her character and that will open space for more drawings as well.

[Anonymous No.]

magister... i was having a good day today watching the stream and suddenly
>himari as futa
you will ease a great burden on my soul if you say you won't do this. i've grown to love himari, but i can't do futa. she's your character, of course... but i'll cry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8659267
Speaking of which, what was his stream address again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8659267
And this in some way prevents from liking her altogether? How?
Why are you such a faggot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8657446
Oh, I think I have not seen art from you in a while. I really like your style.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8659395
is there any need for you to be hostile about my simply expressing a hope that she stays a character i can be attracted to? i never said i'd dislike the character, but that's different from being attracted to it, especially when most of his work is arguably softcore/ecchi. i'm sure you have your share of bodily turn offs, and it's not like i'm requesting he change the character if he's made up his mind. he can do what he wants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8659267
Iirc, he said that Himari simply liked futa and just had ridiculously large breasts. I don't remember seeing anything with her being one before. Maybe you made a mistake and miaunderstood? Then again, I could have missed something myself, but I can't imagine Mags woukd make her a futa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8659267
>>8659488
>>8659700
Ah, you misunderstood. Don't worry, I would never actually do that to her. The idea I was tossing around in the stream was whether or not I should make my futa characters part of the same circle of interaction as Himari and Lily. Since I prefer to keep it borderline H/light H, I decided it was a bad idea; a futa character that controls her impulses and doesn't fuck anything is boring. And in a manga with a plot, you can still downplay the size of a character with ridiculous tits like Himari pretty easily, I would think. Drawing attention away from the size of the cocks I slap on futas is way too hard no matter how I imagine it. Instead they'd just have their own side smut when I want to hardcore, and by consensus I'm going to think up a trap.
They were even shorter than this originally, too, but I know even if someone can look past Himari's insane bustline, both girls would be uncomfortably short for many.

>>8654878
I'll try to get those A-poses out sometime soon, but I wanted to get used to thinning out my figures a bit before I attempt it(I assume the size I usually like to draw thighs at is also difficult to realize in 3D...).

>>8659368
It changed recently.
http://www.livestream.com/magicalnekolenlen

[Anonymous No.]

>>8660174
it's hard to imagine i misunderstood, but if that's your answer that's all that matters.

it's good to see a height comparison, and it's as adorable as always. is it just me or did you draw himari's waist lower or upper body longer than usual?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8660412
It's her breasts that are set a lot lower than I'd usually draw them. I like balloon tits, but I need to start placing them lower. They're probably too low though, I really should set them higher.

[Anonymous No.]

Got an easy request: Suika in this pose with South Park's art style and the text "Ibuki Suika's Fightin' Around the World" on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8660174
You need to post/make more futa man. Its been a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8660897
I concur with this gentleman of fine tastes.

[Eye Tripped No.]

Fuck my life. I coloured the wing backwards and I don't want to redo it. *sobsobsob*

[Anonymous No.]

>>8661099
Get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.]

Who so dead? Nobody has anything?

[Anonymous No.]

Someday I'll contribute to the OC thread, but not today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8662563

Why not today? Give the thread some life?

[Anonymous No.]

#writingcl/a/ss

Get in here writers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8662933

Oh wow, I totally forgot about that IRC. Wish I could connect to IRC still.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8662952
You could always try a web client.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8662962

Were it so easy my friend. Were it so easy. Perhaps sometime this week I can get in there again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8662598
He says that in every OC thread.

[Anonymous No.]

What are the sizes of your tablets, /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8664141
Medium

[Anonymous No.]

>>8664141
Large

[Anonymous No.]

>>8664235
>>8664321
I forgot to mention, please also link your oc in this thread or post an example of your stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8664235
>>8664334

Here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8664141
Medium Intuos4, transitioned from a graphire2 last April.

I've piddled away at the attached image using both, and even I can't tell which bits were done with which.
Don't get me wrong, I'm very pleased with the upgrade; I'm just attempting to reinforce the point that a better tablet does not necessarily equate to better product.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8661099
>>>/deviantart/
>>>/gaia/
Get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8662933
Go back to /a/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8664334
Working on this right now.
Also only 11 layers with that memory load. Sai is pretty terrible at high resolutions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8665065
How the hell do people make such clean lines?

[Anonymous No.]

Look guise it's my and art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8665078
I use gesture based strokes, I m rather terrible drawing slowly but it depends on the person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8664509
>a better tablet does not necessarily equate to better product
I agree, but it really depends on the individual. I personally feel like my small tablet is holding me back. It feels limiting to draw on and I have to use my wrist for every stroke instead of also using my elbow. The pressure levels also start feeling very shallow, something I didn't notice before. I have other complaints about my small tablet but I don't even have money to buy an intuos medium anyway.

Pic related, it's my gorgeous art limited by my shit tablet that would instantly be remedied by a larger, more expensive tablet.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

grantgolland.com

it's all oc, it's pretty much all /jp/ related

Check me out! ;3

[Anonymous No.]

>>8666046
Autism HO!

[Anonymous No.]

First time contribution to the thread, something i drew some 2 weeks ago when my pc was busted, planning to try to color it at some point, along with fixing some stuff that looks off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8666179
awesome handwriting
I'd start with placing her hip higher and making her arms look less like Ruffy's stretched arms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8666191
Thank you for the pointers, i will be using them once i get to digitally drawing/coloring it.
And i suck ass at drawing hands, am happy that they came out as they did, remotely looking like hands.. At least when i digitally start messing around with it, i can fix stuff easier then when on paper.

[Anonymous No.]

Bampu pantsu.
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[Anonymous No.]

contributing

[Anonymous No.]

So, I have a hand-me-down (well, hand me up. A younger sibling gave it to me as she has a new one) tablet that isn't very good. Now, I'm not an artist on paper, but this is just silly.
I don't know why I can't seem to draw anything with any kind of consistency or really anything of value on this thing. Is it that hard to get used to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8666851
Yess, love the eyebrows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8666875
Did you get drivers specifically for it? Generic driver tablets still work but are a horrible nightmare to use.

[Anonymous No.]

Black Gold Saw.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>8638268
>>Also, where are all the music creators?

We're all died. Did something for more ear training though:

http://soundcloud.com/zunbar/island-atlas

I think I'm pretty pleased with these East West samples after getting over the learning curve. Sure you're never gonna sound like a real orchestra, but you can get pretty close these days. Actual Sydney Scoring Orchestra version of the above song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_sMLVO2YfY

The only thing I couldn't get right this time is the layering of the lead melody violins and violas, but I'll try again another time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8667726
What's up with your tags?

[naitoknaito No.]

Was bored and decided to shoop this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8667820
Crude but fascinating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8665440
I recognize the dash of tongue-in-cheek self-recrimination, but I'm going to reply seriously because I'm not very good at being jovial.

It may indeed depend on the individual - I would be interested in knowing whether there were people whose art improved after acquiring a nicer tablet. I only have my experience and some hearsay to go on.

I guess I'd say that the things you mention were more like annoyances than handicaps for me - it took 10+ attempts (and a lot of hand cramping) on the graphire to achieve the same result yielded by 2 attempts on the intuos. It might make a difference that I used the graphire for 10 or 11 years though, so I was very familiar with its quirks by the end. I'm also extremely lazy/haphazard when it comes to sketching, so maybe someone who is more technically minded would achieve more from the same transition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8660897
>>8661068
I've got a lot more free time lately, so I can probably work on futa stuff soon.

>>8664141
Medium Intuos4.

>>8665078
Looking at his settings I'm pretty sure he's not using it, but the stabilizer option smooths out your lines nicely even if you have jittery hands (I know I sure do). It's pretty slow to respond above setting 15, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8669082
A4 Intuos 4, transitioned from A5 Graphire3 in December 2010 I think. I pretty much agree with what you say: art is more about your skill than your tools.

For those considering buying a tablet, my advice would be to consider the size carefully. Larger isn't always better. If you have a small hand or weak arms like I do, large just means swinging your hand around more and zooming around less (and more/less zoom can be for better or worse depending on your technique). I think A5-A4 is the best size for most people, but it possible - I know for many in /jp/ this isn't - try to get your hands on someone else's tablet of that model and/or size and use it for a couple of hours to get a grip on what it's really like to draw with the thing.

[Anonymous No.]

higurashi no naku koro ni

new character has been unlocked

[Anonymous No.]

>>8669082
I can confidently say I got considerably better when I went form a Bamboo fun to a Intuos4 large. Not so much because the Bamboo fun was any sort of hardware limitation for me but after investing in a tablet like the large I felt more obligated to draw leading to more practice, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8669276
07th Expansion should hire you as their new character artist. Ryukishi07 would be proud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8669255

If you're going to do futa you might as well do other fetishes what are you willing and not willing to do because I have a couple of request

[Anonymous No.]

Lots of Intuos 4 users here. I think it was durability that people disliked the 4 compared to 3 for. How are your personal opinions on the durability and the other aspects of the 4?

Also, those of you who went from Bamboo/Graphire to Intuos, how useful are the tilt detection features? How about the custom pressure sensitivity curve?

Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8667539
God damn, it looks great although I require more. Shes to good to leave neglected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8669255
Again I'm reminded how many Japanese characters are so short and how tall my own height ( 6' 2" or 190 cm) is compared to them. Even her huge breasts don't seem so huge anymore when she's so small.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8669375
You're clearly not a proportions man.

If Chihaya was a giant she'd have huge breasts, but she still wouldn't be sexy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8667726
congrats on the marriage

[Anonymous No.]

>>8664141
Small Bamboo Fun.

[Anonymous No.]

are the tablets you guys use the regular, blank ones or do they have some lcd displays now, so you can see what you draw without looking at the monitor?

i have a very old pentagram one, around a3 size.

doesn't have any of those cool things like smoothing lines or such. i can't really use it too well, so i still draw on paper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8669292
Scat, heavy guro, furry, fart/diapers/odor and fat growth are probably the only things that don't sit well with me. I'm indifferent to tentacles and monstergirls. I just like proportion and height play to an extreme degree, really.

>>8669375
They really are painfully short, but as large as I've drawn her at times, at some point they must seem huge for everybody.

>>8670108
Draw more, you.

>>8670189
The ones with displays are wallet-crushing in price, and nobody so far has mentioned owning one like that.

It's almost Miku Day, make sure you show your appreciation!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8669292
Scat, heavy guro, furry, fart/diapers/odor and fat growth are probably the only things that don't sit well with me. I'm indifferent to tentacles and monstergirls. I just like proportion and height play to an extreme degree, really.

>>8669375
They really are painfully short, but as large as I've drawn her at times, at some point they must seem huge for everybody.

>>8670108
Draw more, you.

>>8670189
The ones with displays are wallet-crushing in price, and nobody so far has mentioned owning one like that.

It's almost Miku Day, make sure you show your appreciation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8670515
Still waiting for the best Vocaloid there man.

Perhaps I'll draw some shitty drawing with Miku and Neru. Just because.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8670515
>heavy guro
So you don't mind lighter guro? Or just depictions of great suffering without any serious physical harm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8671392
I thougjy guro was just guro. I guess he means like minor cuts and bleedeing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8636513
>>8636513
>>8637967
>>8638268
>>8642692
>>8642719
>>8646355
Forced meme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8672462

What.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8670515

So that pretty much leaves pregnancy, feet, tickling? are you fine with those? there's probably a billion others but most are either sub genre of what you listed or not as important

[Anonymous No.]

>>8672477
some guy's trying to force a new meme. maybe he hopes it'll become the new who are you quoting or please respond.

[Anonymous No.]

why is it when i draw her now shes always eating eggs. . .

is she getting a little more plumper?

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone explain what the stabilizer does in SAI?

I never even knew the bar, where the stabilizer option is, even existed until that other guy's screenshot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8674560
0 stabilization means that what you draw is what you get.
10 stabilization means that the computer smooths out your lines, and you get less jitter, however the lines lags a little behind your actual pen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8674560
Higher stabilizer value makes your lines smoother by registering less keypoints when you draw a line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8674560
Compare these.
Bottom one is 15 stabilized.

[Mattish !!qibQVaIHl+G No.]

Finished up graphics portion of a java OpenGL danmaku doing for uni project. 3D background, 2D sprites. Modelling for background should be fun.

Can't art for shit so sprites will also just be 3D models flattened(just like those bullets are)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8674588
>Finished up graphics portion
That's what you think, ufufu. If the game isn't finished, the graphics portion isn't neither.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8674615
I think he meant graphics as in the programming aspect, not the terrible art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8674579
>>8674576
>>8674575
Oh I get it.

I'll stick to my default 3, too used to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8674683
You can't ever be sure the graphics programming part of the project is finished if the game itself isn't. Ey will probably need to add blending, lighting, lasers, refactor and optimize the code multiple times and all sorts of other things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8674702
Good point.

Does anyone know what ZUN used to make his games?
Does he use DirectX directly with code he wrote himself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8674717
I don't know what he did for the PC-98, but the pre-MoF Windows games used Direct3D and then he started using D3DX in addition. He also uses a statically compiled libpng and some JPEG decoder for reading picture data.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8674738
Oh cool, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

http://youtu.be/NrAET5yoDv4

I've been (slowly) working on my Miko arrange suite. It's already about 12 minutes long now (!) but the best (worst) part is it's still not finished yet.
Thought I might just share what I have first, though, in hopes of getting some criticism or advice or whatever. Oh, the production quality is still shit as usual, so don't worry about that too much!

Even if you don't care about the genre in particular, could you please listen to part 4 (the section starting at 7:11)?
This part, unlike the rest of the song, is an arrange of Starry Sky of Small Desires, and also unlike the rest of the song, is mainly a pseudo-orchestral/choral section.

Now I have next to zero knowledge concerning orchestral music knowledge, so I kinda bullshit my way through it. Hence feedback or tips would be very, very appreciated!

[Anonymous No.]

Where /jp/ writers store or publish their shit? I want to steal a story and make a vn with it, using my shitty drawings.

[Anonymous No.]

This is not really OC but I thought of mastering some MIDI after listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceMKk7hjUkY and here's my first try, on the same theme: http://www.2shared.com/file/DOLGs0Ee/Border_of_Life.html
What do /jp/ think of it? Keep in mind I'm using only free tools and sounds and this is my first serious attempt at production (took me three days).

>>8674981
Now listening...

[Anonymous No.]

Someone draw some rule 63.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8675073
This.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8675073
Of whom?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8675586
Sakuya or Yukari...

[Anonymous No.]

>>8675586

Rinnosuke is the best choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8675679
This!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8675586

A female sinsack can be interesting, never saw one.

And if you aren't good with girls Manrisa is a classic.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Fun with patterns

[Anonymous No.]

>>8674981
Overall, your usage of strings and keyboard instruments is pretty lame due to a blatant lack of rhythm.
The drums and guitar patterns are mostly quite good. 3:00 to 3:30 and 5:00 to 5:50 are horribly cliché though. Avoid using short loops with only strings to back up as in the beginning, take example on Silk Road Alice.
Concerning the part starting at 7:11, it's pretty much shit until 9:20 and the harpsichord is grossly misused.
Finally, you really should improve the production as it's making it very difficult to focus on the music. That trumpet at the end made me laugh uncontrollably even though it's a pretty decent climax.

I highly suggest you put a lot more embellishment, remove the parts where only one instrument is speaking and add more voices, because it feels very empty overall. That piece has the potential to be great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8676069
How did you go about texturing the skirt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8676184
It's actually really easy in Photoshop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8676184
It's just some random stock pattern stamp in Photoshop, overlaid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8675811
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>8676213
Sanae's skirt is overlaid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8671392
>>8672455
Yeah, I like minor to mild cuts and bleeding. The rest, decapitation, dismemberment, that's too much for me.
>>8672632
I'm indifferent to everything that I said I didn't like, I guess.

I received some really great fanart of Himari from another Pixiv artist so I tried to draw their character in exchange.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>8674981
I still think this is one of the best Touhou prog metal/rock remixes out there. It's like when Demetori was at their prime in their Sinen album. If you ever finish it please let me record the guitar for it and run the rest through some nice synths.

>>8675044
It sounds pretty good dude. Only the lead trumpet/doctor solo instrument sounds like it has too much highs. Needs more delicious mids and low mids. So maybe the trumpet layered with something else. But everything else is pretty perfect and the work shows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8675031
You could ask >>8656372, it seems they're still looking for artists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8675031
How shitty are your drawings?

[8677518 No.]

>>8677518
> >>8675044
> It sounds pretty good dude. Only the lead trumpet/doctor solo instrument sounds like it has too much highs. Needs more delicious mids and low mids. So maybe the trumpet layered with something else. But everything else is pretty perfect and the work shows.
Are you talking about spaztique's mastering or mine? I fear the latter.

[Anonymous No.]

I meant `former'.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>8678954
Arararararararararararararararararararagisan~

[Anonymous No.]

>>8665065
Impressive headtilting there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8678954
Opinion:
Why do you always smudge that transparent white part of the eyes?
It looks terrible, eyes don't work like that, you make it look like they have a cataract.

Fact:
Learn your proportions.

But I know you probably won't take any of it in consideration.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8680801
is/ought gap

[Anonymous No.]

>>8680801
Here we go...

[Anonymous No.]

>>8680801
>you make it look like they have a cataract.
You mean that top part of the eye? I never viewed it that way and nobody has ever said such a thing. Is this better?

>Learn your proportions.
I am of course still learning, but I do think I know them well enough lately to make poses and not have it look like -too- much of a train wreck. It's really hard to check proportions in a pchat, too.

>But I know you probably won't take any of it in consideration.
How caustic, I've shown repeatedly that I always do. I love improving, and all input that helps me do so is appreciated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681250
>I've shown repeatedly that I always do.
That may be, but this is /jp/. The higher you are, the more they will try to get you to fall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681250
Another anon here to tell you that this looks way better.
I'd focus more on making the eyelid look like a separate part, and not a piece of the eye, if I was you, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8680801
>Fact:
>Learn your proportions.
You make it sound like this is possible to do instantaneously

[Anonymous No.]

>>8664141
Nonexistant, like my drawing skill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681276
It is if you have the talent hardcoded into your DNA like Maginigger over here. It's insulting to see an ape waste his one gift like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681664
Talent doesn't exist.
Practice, exposure, technique and determination are everything. Some people have a small head start in things, but that doesn't count in the end.
Only losers who already gave up believe in talent.

[Anonymous No.]

Whatever happened to the drawing buddies thing from a while back?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681676
That statement doesn't correlate to the facts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681664
>talent
Buzzword.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681744
It's a fact of the matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681676

Damn, that motivation. Makes me feel like trying harder than I already am to draw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681775
Keep floundering in waste, it won't change your shit-tier artworks..

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681781

What? If I keep practicing I'll eventually get better. What are you trying to say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8677518
Thank you. But... Comparing it to Demetori is a bit too much, isn't it? I still have a long way to go...

>If you ever finish it please let me record the guitar for it and run the rest through some nice synths.
I would be really honored and grateful if you'd do that. Same goes to the anon who offered to play the bass part if he's still around (and interested).

>>8676168
Thank you for the feedback, lots of valid point there. I will take them into account. Yeah, it is unpolished, and I still have to do loads of refinement to make it really good, but I'm trying!

>blatant lack of rhythm
Yeah, this is a major problem for me, and not just for strings and keys too. I have a really bad sense of rhythm overall; that's why I can't write a good riff or melody even if my life depends on it...
I wonder if there's any way to improve this?

The part at 7:11-9:20 seems to lack direction and purpose, yes. I kinda threw away the buildup made by the previous solo, didn't I? I was already thinking of remaking that whole part and the intro, and now it seems I really have to do it.

>you really should improve the production
This won't happen until a while, due to physical restrictions. I really do need to get a better machine...

Question! Does the modulation at 10:56 and 11:11 feels off? It feels a bit weird to me, and that's one of the part I wanted to get feedback on most. Also is the end bit too wall of sound-ey?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681785
>If I keep practicing I'll eventually get better.

That's a false truth. In reality, you either "got it" or you don't. Thsi is why I have given up my artistry... No amount of works will help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681791

I doubt it. I practice everyday, and from how I used to draw I've improved exponentially. Though I used to be a lot worst, and I'm still nowhere near amazing or substantial in my own opinions, if I keep going at the pace I'm going, I'll get somewhere. Maybe you don't think so, but I don't care about your opinions, it's my beliefs that truly matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681797
The truth is the only metric. Congratulations if you "got it", but there are those like myself who can't "Got it" no matter how hard they try....

[Anonymous No.]

Not this shit again.

[Anonymous No.]

Here's the truth. There's a right way to practice and a wrong way to practice. You don't "draw until the good comes out", you learn how to not draw the bad in the first place. And there are tutorials for this all over the web. And they're mostly ignored because of how boring they are.

Good examples of progress stagnation is right here with magister and other drawfriends like ke4 and miyazaki. I can only blame it on the constant anime stylization. Anime is a dead end for artistic progress. It's a black hole. If you wanted to practice, you just gotta stop drawing anime. It's very hard to stop because anime is SO EASY to draw.

Anyway, one more thing you'll never want to hear: the less fun it is, the better it is for you. This is why I gave up drawing. I just want to take it easy. No hard things for me, I give up too easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681999
>This is why I gave up drawing.
Any credibility you had in this topic was just lost.
Like you said, you're a quitter, so I doubt you actually know how to properly improve one's art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681999
>Anyway, one more thing you'll never want to hear: the less fun it is, the better it is for you. This is why I gave up drawing. I just want to take it easy. No hard things for me, I give up too easily.
Not really. It's the missing part of the equation though.

You are liable to succeed at things you enjoy. There is an unfortunate issue of how viable the different things people enjoy are. Lucky for you if say, you're a tall black man who enjoys basketball and working out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8682025
I was on the right track for a time. The longer I was on it, the harder it got. You're the one who has no idea how to improve. You probably have no idea how to begin.

And anyway, what do YOU think is the path to real progress? Drawing more anime girls? Drawing 10000 pictures a day? Innate TALENT? Oh please. A quick google search for how to actually improve your drawing skills all agree with what I said one way or another. If you're thinking about those prodigy painters, they're about on the same level as savants. They're just freaks of nature.

>>8682062
I won't go back on my statement. It's not fun. But some people thrive on the challenge. Others don't. Tall black men who like basketball still have to do intense workouts and practices to keep themselves in top shape and playing ability. I don't think I ever met a guy who LOVED doing suicides as a main component of the sport he liked playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681791
Seeeeeeeeee!??
What did I say about people who believe in talent?? another lose who gave up early....pathetic, pfffffthehehehe!!

ahem... sorry, enough with the roleplaying orz

[Anonymous No.]

>>8682084
...reported o_O

>_> *shuffles away*

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>>8681999
How grim of an outlook to stop drawing, some people enjoy drawing stylized art much like anime. Even stylized art can look very pretty and artistic. It's like a traditional artist saying their way is better than digital art and vice-versa. How pitiful giving up art to take it easy when you can do both. You made my day even better anon hats off to you

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>>8681791
Seeeeeeeeee!??
What did I say about people who believe in talent?? another loser who gave up early....pathetic, pfffffthehehehe!!

ahem... sorry, enough with the roleplaying orz

[Anonymous No.]

sage for RP

[Anonymous No.]

>>8681276
Its done with practice, which clearly he isn't doing because I've notice no improvements in months for this aspect.

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>>8681250
Much better.

The poses don't look too much of a trainwreck, your legs tend to be shorter than they should be is what I tend to notice in your drawings.

I assumed you'd be another
>hurr my style
My mistake.

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>>8682073
Life is always going to have a bunch of shit one way or another. The people who succeed at that are generally going to prefer hardass workouts over thinking hard or trying to live with no money.

Take enjoy as a relative term rather than absolute.

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Finally got things to work.

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>>8682094
>ahem... sorry, enough with the roleplaying orz

Yes, you stop that.
>>8681999
like i said, I just never "got" it. But why stop drawing anime if you want to draw anime??? I dont understand that part.

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>>8682091
Don't misunderstand. I didn't say you have to stop drawing anime forever. That might have been how it looked, but what I meant was you have to stop drawing anime for practice.

Somebody who loves anime doesn't have to make all his final works super real paintings of apples, oranges and landscape and bore himself to death. He can draw anime, but he has to study all of the mechanics behind it to make a great picture. Anime is a bad tool to make that study. That's all.

Yes, what I am saying is if you want to draw an anime girl, don't practice drawing anime girls. Practice drawing a real human body, study the proportions, how muscle and fat is distributed around the body, how the body bends and moves, etc. Same thing if you want to draw a machine. Don't practice drawing your favorite gundams (you CAN IF YOU WANT TO, just don't expect it to help you), you practice by drawing similar looking machines and parts in real life. If you don't, the most you can do is make shitty copies of the same looking gundam, then look in amazement as somebody designs something utterly fantastic.

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>>8682143

>But why stop drawing anime if you want to draw anime??? I dont understand that part.

It's his opinion. Leave it at that.

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>>8682143
>>8682152

see >>8682146

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>>8682146
I see. What sorts of books would you recommend for a beginner other than Loomis?

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>>8682143
Cause he's a failure and he just wants other people to give up like him.
Sure getting better requires effort, but so what? Everybody also has their own way of speed of learning and also differ in how they learn.
There's no right or wrong way to going about practice for everyone.
As long as you're aware of your faults and where you need to improve, it doesn't matter if you constantly draw anime stylization. You can still learn how to do proper anatomy with it.
And depending on your style, you don't have to be anatomically precise to every little muscle and detail.

In the end, that guy's an idiot and blowing shit out of his ass.

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>>8682173
It's like I'm arguing with a popular 12 year old female artist on dA.

I'm done. I'm out. Believe what you want, I was only here to demystify the truth of artistic progress for those who don't want to be bullshitted around.

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>>8682184
I, for one, thank you. But uh, could you help me before you go? >>8682162

Somebody needs to knock Mags and those other artists down a peg.

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>>8681999
There are many anime artists have very realistic and human looking bodies.
Those artists have a good sense of anatomy and it shows in their art.

You know, the kind that aren't don't draw characters made out of tubes and ball joints.

Stagnation all depends on the artist's willingness to improve and learn more.
Its just that a lot of anime artists all tend to give up after they reach a point when their tube bodies look "good enough". The worst is when they have fans that don't give criticism once the drawing reaches the minimum threshold.

Going on any forums for artists or even on /ic/ is a good way to get criticism and stop being deluded to see what you can improve on, but a lot of anime artists would get anal devastated to learn that most of their stuff is wrong and they basically have to go back to the start and learn properly.
So they tend to avoid places like that and stick to DA where everyone loves their shit.

I don't blame stylization though, this is just the effect of the anime community being an endless circlejerk that lets artists stagnate once they reach that threshold, unless the artist himself wants to improve and keep practicing.

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>>8682162
https://sites.google.com/site/4chanic/training-tutorials

If you're a beginner, you can just go ahead and pick at random. However if you're truly at rock bottom, there was a learning how to draw book that's on a pdf somewhere but I forgot the name. It teaches you the very very basics and if you actually do everything it tells you, you can see major improvement (utter shit -> average drawfriend tier) in a matter of days.

Somebody else has to link it, I totally forgot.

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>>8682184

Got damn thats some ego you got faggot.
You have no creditability, take your ass outta here and go cry in a corner more about how you quit drawing because you're a fucking moron.

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>>8682198

This. One thousand times this. Two infinite times this. I'm glad someone has some sense.

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>>8682206
>However if you're truly at rock bottom, there was a learning how to draw book that's on a pdf somewhere but I forgot the name. It teaches you the very very basics and if you actually do everything it tells you, you can see major improvement (utter shit -> average drawfriend tier) in a matter of days.

Damn it, I hope somebody shows up with that link soon. Maybe you know where I could find it? /ic/, perhaps?
>>8682216
You sound very whiny about somebody giving the truth to you.

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>>8682143
hohoho.... I love how tsundere is /jp/ about RPing... anyway, if you're the person who was talking about "having it", you're a retarded faggot, sorry

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>>8682198
Psst: Those are the ones that did what he's suggesting. He never said you couldn't do animu artwork. See >>8682146

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>>8682216
Aren't you supposed to be practicing drawing your favorite naruto character as a furry in diapers?

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>>8682233
Don't hate my style...!

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>>8682231

You're trying way too hard to suck up to someone else. Seriously. He has his own opinion, everyone has their own opinion about how they want the things they do to progress. Deal with it, shut the fuck up and then go do whatever it is you want to do with your life. I don't get why it's so hard for people to be civil about the simplest of things. Is it not easy?

[Anonymous No.]

Ello again!
Mind giving me some opinions and advice?

Started drawing about two months ago. Referenced, never traced.

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>>8682259
Why are you so frustrated about what he's saying?

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>This thread

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>>8682272
>>>/b/

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>>8682272
>Yotsuba theme
>Good troll
>"This thread"

I'm quoting the idiocy of your entire post.

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>>8682269

Because he's obviously getting on the other guy's dick because of what he said. It's unnecesary to keep pushing it any further if no one wants to listen to it. Why is he trying so hard to shove it down the throat of every person who disagrees?

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>>8682287
I'm getting on his dick so he'll tell me about the other resource, because I am starting from scratch.
>It's unnecesary to keep pushing it any further if no one wants to listen to it.
You underestimate the power of autism.

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>>8682266
Keep fighting the good fight.

Go grab a tablet so you can color. Please draw my waifu in the future, anon.

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>>8682266
I can't tell if you're able to draw humans well since this has lolanimu proportions.

But that drawing itself looks good.

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>>8682266
What did your drawings look at the beginning? Did you try using a mouse? Just asking because I started drawing on the 28th and everything I do still looks like shit. I can't even do full bodies, just portraits, because the proportions always end up looking messed up.

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>>8682292
http://www.mediafire.com/?jb5w47g14ovnk

Pick

At

Fucking

Random.

Try "Successful Drawing", that sounds interesting.

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>>8682269
It's generally self-centric and particularly being this is fucking /jp/ where the standards of art in most of the board content vary wildly, a bit narrow mindedly elitist. People insisting on -how- you -must- learn instead of -what- you -should- learn tend to come across as dicks when that doesn't jive with your experience. A lot of what is called "talent" is just people learning or approaching things a different way that makes some aspect appear easier.

I have the same revulsion to people who insist you must learn Japanese one exact way that worked for them and is thus the only right way.

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All you fags who want to learn how to draw should get out of /jp/'s OC thread and run your asses over to /ic/. You don't have to even post or nothing. Just read their threads. You'll learn a lot.

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>>8682308
>>8682304
I tried to resist animu style but I enjoy it; not the best thing to start with. I hope to be able to draw a great variety of styles eventually. This is the first full-body about a month ago, before that it was random household still-lives and wooden-pose-people.

Also thanks for the responses

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>>8682332
fuck off, nerd. we /ic/ now

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>>8682323
> "talent"
I really hate that word.

Its bullshit, talent just makes it slightly easier for someone to be able to do something. Claiming someone has "talent" and you don't basically throws away any effort they put to getting there, making it look like
>oh who cares how much you practiced or what you did, you'd have gotten there anyways since you have "talent"

You still have to learn and fucking practice to get better, just like anyone else who wants to do it.

Its the exact same thing as those fat people claiming they want to lose weight but do nothing about it.

Yes I mad.

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>>8682342
Why are you here? We are all waiting for you in Deviantart.

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>>8682104
Hmm, I see what you're talking about, I'll work on that.

I'm not fond of "my style" punters either. You can tell when someone knows their shit and can distort proportions attractively at a glance. If you point out my bad shit, I will do my best to fix it.

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>>8682895
Good.

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>>8682104
To an extent, I can understand your complaints about artists who draw extreme proportions such as where hands are as large as the head and refuse to step back and think about whether they're not actually just refusing to self-analyze, but I don't think I've ever seen him draw legs outside of the constraints of reality or even rarity. Or do you mean he doesn't draw them true to the actual characters? Obviously his fetish character is a little exempt from this.

His eyes are probably the thing he gets the most compliments about, but I can agree the effect looks cloudy(maybe just recently?) and I don't like shadows on eyes either, although they are common in this style for some reason.

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Yeah, I'm not too fond of the way the eyes are colored myself.

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>>8665065
Just finished. Not exactly /jp/ related but I thought the thread could use some art.

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>>8683403
The colors are nice

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Musician here. I can't fully agree with the haters, but from my experience they make at least one very valid point that probably applies to art in the same way it applies to music: Never, ever stick with one single style.

At first, you start improving in that style. But the speed of improvement slows down after a while, and you stop improving. Your works stay at the same level of quality for a little while...and then slowly actually become WORSE. You become so used to a certain style of doing things that you end up only doing things that way, and as a consequence stop using small innovations outside of the usual way to do things. For me, as someone who gets frustrated and discards his work when it isn't good enough, it generally results in me failing to create anything for a while.

The solution is technically pretty simple but practically extremely hard: Create stuff in a significantly different style (one you haven't tried before) for a while. It may not be your favorite style, but after some practice you start improving in that style and you get decent stuff out of it. Then, after a while, you'll naturally end up going back to your own style, but this time you have innovations from the different style to continue improving with. After a while, that runs dry as well, and you have to go back and try something else.

As long as you keep up this cycle of trying different things and using things you learned from them for your own style, you will improve. If you don't, you become Aoi Nishimata.

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>>8683403
Good job on the values, it looks good even in greyscale.
A classy background would be nice too.
Her left hand still bothers me. It's just me though.

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>>8683403
Hands. Proportions.

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>>8683403
I like the coloring and line quality. If you are who I think, you've really quite improved from before. Nice job.

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>>8683403
Looks good Gwyndolin is a nice character. Do you think you can draw her sister next?
This threads pretty dead right now we need way less shitposters and more drawings.

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>>8683034
>>8683117
Hm, I'm rethinking the way I do eyes. I've always thought they were somewhat unique so I was reluctant to change them, but I've been trying a lot of things anyway so it's worth a shot.

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>>8685053
This thread is past the bump limit, isn't it? I'm working on a drawing, but will probably wait until thread 64 to post it.

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>>8685053
I've never actually played Odin sphere, who is her sister? If the design looks cool I'll get around to it.

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>>8681787

Hi, yes I'm still around and would love to play bass for this track when it's finished.

Some of the parts are exceptionally fast though, so I might not be skilled enough to play them exactly as they are in the midi but I hope that's okay.

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>>8685196
I don't understand people like this. Why draw fan art for games you haven't even played? Is it even "fan art" anymore in that case?

It always annoys me when artists draw art of characters that does not fit the characters at all, like serious characters looking all happy and calm and clearly dominant characters being all weak and fragile. I wonder how often that's just a case of the artist not actually knowing anything about the character...

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>>8685258
It was a request, if the design interests me I'll draw it. Besides requests for specific characters I usually only draw characters I know or OC.

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>>8685196
Her name is Velvet.

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>>8674981
Oh boy. I'd play some guitar for you if I had a sound card worth shit, but as it stands everything I record sounds utterly horrible.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any artists willing to post their progress over the past year? I want to see what is possible.

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>>8685650
Thanks for that.

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't draw, but I colored her in so I could jerk off to those feet.

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>>8685125
Much more pleasing to the eye.

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>>8686342
Velvet is Gwyndolins step sister sort of. Odin had a child with a woman from the enemy nation. Here is a pic of her official portrait.

[Anonymous No.]

If this thread is bumpable, it doesn't deserve to die from spam.

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>>8686918
Alas, it is not. Someone will make a new one after this dies so fear not.