/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Does /jp/ have any stories about failed portal attempts?

[Anonymous No.]

No. I would never fail such an important thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8634973
There are far too many to count. Sometimes I don't understand why I'm not dead yet. I've been suicidal for as long as I remember. Why does suicide have to be so hard?

[naitoknaito No.]

>>8634980
Genetics.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait a second... If you kill yourself, you open a portal, but since you are dead, you can't use it, so you die for someone else to go to Gensokyo.

[Anonymous No.]

You dont fail a portal attempt.
You chicken out.

If you really wanted to die there are 100% idiot proof ways to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8634987
That's why you build a catapult first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8634980
You're such a failure. You can't even die properly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8634983
What is that supposed to mean?
>>8635002
Eventually, my life is going to catch up to me and I'll have to do it. I'll find a foolproof plan eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah I tried to shoot my head but here I am now so I didn't work out as I planned

[Anonymous No.]

>Cant even portal properly
I'm not sure if i should be happy or sad for you.

On one side you are still alive, on the other you failed at something that should be impossible to fail at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8634997
so that your dead body lands somewhere in the forest and is eaten by stray dogs and low level beast youkai until nothing's left?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635019
If I could aim my body, it would be considered

[Anonymous No.]

>>8634980
>>8635014
Could you share your tales? I'd like to know more about these.

>>8634989
Some people don't know about those or have to use the riskier methods for various reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635097
I'm >>8634980.
There isn't much to say. My first attempt was probably with wrist cutting. It didn't do anything, although it was probably an experiment. I still have some scars from it. I tried to drug myself a few times, but I usually ended up getting the dosage wrong due to nervousness and just getting hung over for a week. I tried to suffocate myself a few times, but that usually just left me nauseous and me falling asleep without anything happening. I tried to use trains, but I always ended up missing it or getting scared away. My parents would get suspicious whenever I left the house, so I had to aim it around my school schedule. I have tried a few more methods, but there isn't much to say about them. I tried to jump off a building a few times, but there aren't too many suitable ones around. My rule is six floors or more. I have tried a few more methods, but there isn't much to say about them. I would like to try experimenting cyanide or some other poisonous substance, or maybe get a hold of a firearm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635097
I'm >>8634980.
There isn't much to say. My first attempt was probably with wrist cutting. It didn't do anything, although it was probably an experiment. I still have some scars from it. I tried to drug myself a few times, but I usually ended up getting the dosage wrong due to nervousness and just getting hung over for a week. I tried to suffocate myself a few times, but that usually just left me nauseous and me falling asleep without anything happening. I tried to use trains, but I always ended up missing it or getting scared away. My parents would get suspicious whenever I left the house, so I had to aim it around my school schedule. I tried to jump off a building a few times, but there aren't too many suitable ones around. My rule is six floors or more. I have tried a few more methods, but there isn't much to say about them. I would like to try experimenting cyanide or some other poisonous substance, or maybe get a hold of a firearm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635249
>I tried to jump off a building a few times, but there aren't too many suitable ones around.
How many suitable buildings do you need to jump off of, exactly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635255
>How many suitable buildings do you need to jump off of, exactly?
You shouldn't need too many if they are high enough.

Maybe I should have worded that differently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635253

it's pretty sad when you can't even succeed at getting yourself killed.

[Anonymous No.]

>I tried to jump off a building a few times, but there aren't too many suitable ones around.
Is it that hard to take a bus or a taxi to somewhere that does? I mean, it's only a one way trip anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

Come on. There haven't been any real confirmed an heroes originating on any 4chan board anyways right? Even here it's just a bunch of faggots fantasizing and pulling descriptions of the ways they failed out their ass. Seems it's only the people in OTHER forums (even bodybuilding?!) that have the balls to give you real confirmation and put on a show. Pic related. Real aspie. Real anhero.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635310
>it's pretty sad when you can't even succeed at getting yourself killed.
It does make me sad.
>>8635323
>Is it that hard to take a bus or a taxi to somewhere that does? I mean, it's only a one way trip anyway.
That's not easy for me. There is also the chance of getting caught or chickening out.
>>8635348
>Come on. There haven't been any real confirmed an heroes originating on any 4chan board anyways right?
I've seen a few. Do you think that nobody on this website has ever killed themselves?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635253
I'm sorry that none of that worked out for you, anon. Any chance you could share what drug you used, though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635363
>I've seen a few.
References please. Obviously /b/tards or other people pulling content from other forums (like guy in the pic) doesn't count. I haven't seen any 4chan-originated and documented 'suicides' confirmed by the authorities and put on mainstream news.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635396
I wouldn't recommend trying to OD unless you really know what you are doing. I don't even remember which drugs I used. It was usually sleeping pills and some stuff I picked up from shoddy websites. I often took them mixed with other methods. If you really want to do it, make sure that you can't throw up. This is why ingesting through the mouth is bad.
>>8635425
It's usually nothing more than a gun or some drugs with a timestamp next to them. I don't know if I have any 'confirmed', but I have no reason to believe that at least one of them was legitimate.
>I haven't seen any 4chan-originated and documented 'suicides' confirmed by the authorities and put on mainstream news.
Do you expect a headline saying "4channer commits an hero"? Suicides usually get only a slight mention in the news, and only if they disturbed something liked the train schedule or sealing off a highway. I don't see too many of these cases getting documented, and the victims would often would often prefer to stay anonymous.

[bandage-tan !TmNv4e2Q8s No.]

There was one is 2010.

I can remember waking up after they pumped my stomach and trying to yank my catheter out.

I needed to pee.

[Anonymous No.]

Slashed my wrist.

didn't cut deep enough though, ended up bleeding a shit ton and now can't wear short sleeve shirts because of my scar.

[Anonymous No.]

Seriously? No-one uses helium (or nitrogen for that matter).
Bag + tubing + helium tank.

The need for air comes from the buildup of CO2 in the blood. When you breathe in helium and breathe out CO2, the blood is not saturated with CO2 and so you get no urge for breath.
Look up suicide bag on wikipedia.
Attach a bag to a helium tank, cut a hole in the other end (depending on how tightly it is around your neck- basically you want an outlet port for gases, the idea is to have a steady trickle of helium coming into the bag, which keeps it pressurised just a little bit so that all air you exhale is pushed out of the bag and replaced with helium.), and stick it on your head and tape it to your neck.
5 minutes in and you'll have fainted
30 minutes later you'll be dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8634980
There's a reason all your suicide attempts have failed. It's because you're actually immortal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635310
It's actually pretty easy to fail at suicide. You really have to research the best method (no method is 100% failproof) and planning beforehand. Even while trying it you have to be careful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635649
Well actually, I think the main reason no-one in this thread has tried the helium method is because if they had, they wouldn't be around to talk about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635658
You know what to do if this is true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635680
Anyone remember the guy who streamed his attempt? He just pussied out at the end citing a bad headache as the reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635687
Become a maid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635689
If he had long enough to pussy out after getting a bad headache, I would think that the helium concentration in his bag or whatever was not high enough.
If you've ever heard of liquid nitrogen spills, you'll know that they're deadly. You just collapse and then die, no warning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635681
>(no method is 100% failproof)
Let me just list 3 failproof ways that I can think off the top of my head.
1. Jumping off 10+ stories building.
2. Large dose of arsenic or cyanide compound.
3. Hollow point to the head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635736
1. Someone might stop you. And you might stop yourself.
2. You may end up vomiting it if you take too much. And the death from arsenic isn't exactly pleasant.
3. Aim is usually the problem here. But with a hollow point, it doesn't really matter. Get some specialist frangible rounds that shred tissue upon contact.
And getting hold of a decent gun isn't always trivial. Not everyone lives in america.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635736
You'll throw up the cyanide if you don't take precautions. Enjoy poisoning your entire neighborhood with your vomit.
And for the gun, you have to aim very well + use strong enough bullets/gun, otherwise enjoy your brain damage or bleeding painfully to death for an hour if you're lucky and not taken to an hospital by someone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635778
Hmm
There are anti-vomiting medicines that are avaliable over the counter, right?
If you mixed cyanide and those you could make a pretty neat combo.
Do a bit of animal testing for the LD50, and you have suicide pills.
Not FDA approved though, so you'd have to sell them over Tor.
And there would be nothing illegal in the packages, either, technically.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone who fails at suicide simply doesn't actually want to die and are probably doing it for attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635784
Yes of course, but that's what I meant with research and planning.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to tie up a suicidal /jp/er in my basement and perform medical experiments on him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635922
I actually want to do the same thing. However, they will be humane medical experiements. You'll get plenty of morphine and pain relief, and there won't be any limb removal or anything weird like that.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe OP meant actual attempts to open a portal using lucid dreaming or astral projection? Not the suicide=portal nonsense that seems to be so popular here.
At least, that's what I would be more interested in

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637084
It would be advisable to use a different picture if that was his intention

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637059
So you just get patient high and play the doctor? Sounds like if you had some tendency for becoming a charlatan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635633
How long do you have these scars? I still have my scars after few years!

[Anonymous No.]

The best I have is a failed non-attempt.
I was convinced, determined. I would have to find a 15+ floor building with an open roof, but it can't be that hard. Going out at night would seem suspicious so I would have to wait until morning.
The same night I got a call from my grandfather asking if I was visiting for his birthday, which was that next day. I couldn't just do it after that, /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637098
I still have mine after 6 years or so. I don't think they're going to fade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637090
No, the painkillers are so they don't freak out when I'm removing organs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635746
>>8635736
>3
>hollow point
>not 8 ( or 12 ) gauge shell

small time

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637173
>not solid slug

Anyway, shotguns are difficult to aim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637185
Shotgun in mouth and shooting the roof of your mouth is 99.9% certain to kill you.

[Anonymous No.]

What's all this worry about the success rates of INDIVIDUAL methods? Has no one who is truly determined to kill themselves thought of chaining together multiple methods? Poison yourself AND jump off a building. Shoot yourself AND then drown. If you chain together multiple methods each with a good chance of success then the aggregrate probability of failure will be negligible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637932
Actually the technical skill of chaining two methods together makes the entire suicide less likely to succeed. Personally I recommend taking warfarin (rat poison), waiting 10 minutes, and jumping off a building.
There will be so much blood.
But yeah, warfarin before any sort of traumatic suicide is best.
Instead of chaining two fatal techniques, you could combine a non-fatal technique with a fatal one, so that chances of success are actually maximised.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637951
... what 'technical skill' does swallowing some poison and then jumping take? How many years of elite special forces training does it take to stand on the edge of a dock or boat and shoot yourself in the direction of the water?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637961
Dude, there's a reason "Keep it simple, stupid" is the motto of any industry.
Simple is best. you're underestimating the simplicity of such operations.
Anyway, unless you're going to fund a study on the efficacy of technique linking, the argument you're going to stretch out no matter what you read here is going to be pointless bickering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637969
Or rather overestimating the simplicity.
Whatever.
I'm an advocate of the suicide bag method myself. Easy, fairly cheap, no people screaming at you not to jump, painless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637975
The problem with an exit bag, as opposed to say, jumping, is that you actually need money. When you're homeless and as poor as a rat, gathering the materials needed to make an exit bag proves to be rather difficult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637990
If you're going to kill yourself, stealing something from a shop won't kill you.
And hell, maybe you'll get to spend some time in a jail, and be fed and kept warm.
Unless they throw you back out because you're homeless, but then joke's on them.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not willing to go into detail but one time I was about to stab myself into chest but a friend of mine was able to grab my hand before anything happened. I really would've done it had he not interfered.

[Anonymous No.]

If OP had started this thread with, "Does /jp/ have any stories about failed suicides?" and used a picture of a noose or something, this thread would have been deleted instantly. I get that the Yume Nikki picture and "portal" thing is *what* makes it /jp/, but our janitor really needs to learn to exercise some pragmatism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637969
>Dude, there's a reason "Keep it simple, stupid" is the motto of ANY industry.
Oh really? Where's your evidence? You must have worked in every industry and every company! I interned with a large German corp the past two summers and let me assure you they love overengineering things. For some things like designing the structural/load tolerances of elevators overcompensation is considered essential. Keeping things 'simple' and not considering many scenarios gets people killed and makes companies go out of business in certain industries. My only gripe was with the drama queens that insist they've tried dozens of times to kill themselves and it never 'works'. Even if you don't use multiple methods, there are individual methods with extremely high success rates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638000
Well the people that make these threads typically moderate themselves.
It's kinda the point.

>>8638001
Well my only experience is with the chemical industry. Chemical processes are kept simple, as it keeps costs down. The more complex the plant is, the more likely something is going to go wrong.
when you're over engineering something, you're not adding much complexity, you're just adding more layers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638011
It's not just a case of more layers. The designs also have to be modified and made MORE complex when acocunting for more scenarios such as what if it bends/shears in this fashion instead? What if we experience this kind of failure we haven't considered? We have to install a new backup system or revamp the existing one to handle that. If anything I think a country like Japan sitting on such an active seismic zone probably understand these ideas better than many others. Thinking something will never ever happen or happen a certain way doesn't make it so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8637969
>>8638001
Obviously everything is complicated, but you can reduce things to quite simple principles. That's just how the universe works. I like this:
http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/thetwothings.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638025
Simplicity usually involves avoiding the problem in the first place.
500 failsafes for elevators?
Use the stairs.
That's what I mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638030
Enjoy falling down the stairs, or not being able to use them because of a disability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638030
This is I why I walk to other countries. As a nice bonus I also save a lot of money and lose quite a bit of weight.

Why do planes and boats even exist?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638042
>>8638046
Oh dear the autism alarm just went off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638030
>>8638025 here. Not >>8638042. I agree that sometimes there are simpler alternatives that humans refuse to consider due to convenience or vanity. However, sometimes you have no choice but to use a complex system out of necessity. How else are you going to get oil out of the bottom of the sea? Either way you've got to use a 'system' of some kind. Would you climb up 80 floors of stairs to get to your office? How else would you get oil out of the bottom of the sea? Doing a shitty cement job and using a simpler design with fewer failsafes/backups (and still a shitload of failure modes) didn't work very well for BP now did it? Managing complexity is no cakewalk but there ARE safety/efficiency gains that can be realized with a more complex system that is properly designed, built and operated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638069
But imagine if you could design a really simple system that does exactly the same job, say, nanobots or some shit. You just pour them in the sea and it pulls the oil out for you. Or whatever. But since such magic doesn't exist, you have to do it the hard way or not at all.

What you're not designed there is overcomplexity, what you're designing there is neccessary complexity, which in essence, is simplicity. You wouldn't design a three stage double relief lock for your watch strap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638087
I think the definition of 'necessary complexity' varies alot for clients. Some just want the cheapest shit available with minimum safety precautions possible to barely get the job done. Others want a more complex system with higher tolerances that can survive more scenarios. So I guess in the eyes of the cheapass clients (the ones my corp doesn't deal with) we are making things unnecessarily complex. Based on their standards the system they end up choosing is probably the 'simplest' they are willing to tolerate. I would still strongly recommend against getting on a Chinese-made elevator or high-speed train that only the Chinese government or SOEs find 'acceptable' though.

[Anonymous No.]

cutted my wrists, my arms, the vein in my forehead, AND took like 12 sleep pills. All of that during almost 10 hours alone, trying to kill myself. Didn't make it. My wounds, although they were deep enough, stopped bleeding when I was close to death. Fuck me and my strange body.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638127
Warfarin is your friend. Rat poison to you.
Take some before cutting and you'll never clot. Would recommend not taking it if you wanted to live, since internal bleeding will kill you pretty pronto if your self caused injury doesn't.
Internal bleeding is a bit more painful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638127
You may have superpowers, anon. Why aren't you patrolling the streets already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638140
Social anxiety, I'm afraid of dealing with criminals, also, masturbating at home is funnier.

[Anonymous No.]

nope

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[Anonymous No.]

>>8637996
Why would you do it near someone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638161
Stupid attentionwhoring bullshit, that's what.

[Anonymous No.]

Somehow I want to kill everyone on this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638161
I was drunk and got extremely frustrated over a meaningless thing. I wasn't myself at all.

[【スパーキー（④ ＾ヮ＾）】⚡ !FCr.DTJy2k!!54bDy3LQvy8 No.]

>>8634973
portals.....

1.21 jigga watts!

[Anonymous No.]

I did plan on shooting myself, but then I became too paranoid about it not killing me off for good once I actually got hold of a firearm.

I could live on with quarter of my fucking head missing, being handfed soft food by my mother for the rest of her life. She would be so heartbroken, and I probably couldn't manage to say more than "URRGH" by that point. It makes me feel awful just thinking about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638193
Shoot yourself in the heart, what can go wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638127
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_immortality

gj dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638204
Not this shit again. It doesn't literally mean you become immortal. Learn what a thought experiment is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638210
I think he's saying if we assume each attempt was 50% either way, that'd make it a .5^6 chance of survival, meaning this guy is the ~1.56% survivor.

At least that's my understanding of it.

[Anonymous No.]

Someone needs to make a limiter to put on everyones autism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638413
What? You mean something along the lines of a fancier shock collar? Your autism senses are tingling too much, therefore we will apply a 8000V shock for 5 seconds. Don't do that again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638210

That's exactly what it means. Reality splits every time you try to kill yourself and you live forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638204
Interesting. It always surprised me that with all the things that can go wrong in my body and because of my surroundings, despite all of that I'm still alive. I'm dying every instant, but I'm surviving through the alternative dimension where I'm alive, until the chance of survival is 0%. Makes sense. Maybe it'll never reach 0%, I wouldn't know as I am not dead, at least in this dimension.

[Anonymous No.]

We should have a lot more threads like this one!

[Anonymous No.]

I nearly OD'd on heroine once, without intending to do so. It wasn't even that much.
So for my suicide I plan to simply take a ridiculous dose, somewhere out in the woods or something. I don't see what could be more fail-safe, not to mention pain-free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638549
>Without intending to do so
Oh, so you OD'd while skin popping?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638553
Yeah. I'm clean for ~6 years now and don't intend to start again
before "it's time". It's a downward spiral that's likely to kill you
even if you're just a regular addict.
One thing I would like to add, for anyone considering this path,
please be sure that help won't arrive in time. Being brought back is
hell. Really. I can't even begin to describe.

[Anonymous No.]

I once climbed to the highest point of a 30-story building and decided to do it, but not before combining every method I could think of.

I put a can of gasoline on my back which was gouged and bleeding gasoline on myself, made a line of razor wire around my neck tied to a foundation on the roof, got a shotgun ready, ate at least 3 bottles of spironolactone, dressed up in a cute red skirt, lit my skirt on fire and then proceeded to put the gun in my mouth and pull the trigger while standing on the edge of the building

The shotgun blast knocked me off the roof and all of the bullets bounced off my brain and spilled out of my mouth. The bullets flew out of my mouth and shot the razor wire in half. The gasoline on my skirt and on my back was put out by the wind because I was flying down, and before I knew it a chemical reaction happened between my skirt and the gasoline, and between both my skirt became hardened and i sailed safely to the ground as if the skirt was a hang glider.

Now I get to live the rest of my life as a trap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638689
That would be amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638867
No, what would be amazing if you skipped everything but the last line.

[Anonymous No.]

>Suicide
>difficult

Only if you're an attention seeking faggot. If you really want to die, shoot yourself in the head with a high-caliber gun or take a large dose of arsenic. Fuck, it isn't hard. What are you afraid of?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8641233

Sorry, I didn't feel like reading all these gay posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8641220
This has been covered already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8641235
Most of them are people complaining about failures, and then being advised on how to not fuck up the next time.
Methods, ideas, suicide techniques.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8641220
Maybe they don't feel ready to enter Gensokyo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8641220
Yeah totally dude, because we're all rich Americans with easy access to expensive firearms, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8641959
Hence why I recommend the helium + bag method.
If you're going to kill yourself, I don't think that getting about $100 for supplies (actually it's probably less than that, much less, but I don't actually check the prices) will kill you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635658
>>8638204
>>8638210
It's a bit more complicated than that.
The case is that it's most likely impossible to kill yourself, although it's possible for you to be dead in most worlds. MWI is most likely true, but even if you don't think MWI is true, if the mind's substrate turns out being computable, then you have to consider all possible machines/"worlds" (countably infinitely many) that implement your mind (this also gives a very good reason for "why is there something instead of nothing", but I'm not going to go quoting physics and phil papers now).

What are suicide attempts likely to result in? In some portion of the worlds you've succeeded, now you have sad people mourning your death. In some worlds you've survived - you've had a continuation in which you survived. If your method of suicide was bad, you may end up with damage of all kinds, even brain damage, which is a scary thing! It all comes down to probabilities - what is the probability that your current neighbours will experience seeing you dead? what is the probability that you will survive? what is the probability that you will survive unchanged? what is the probability that you will suffer this or that damage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8643241
> continued
Obviously since you decided to perform such a wasteful act as killing yourself and causing suffering to others by making yourself unaccessible relative to them (you being dead in their actual worlds), you might as well choose one where you don't end up crippled or badly damaged, and if you're doing this, you might as well make yourself rich by using some quantum random number generator and trying to win some lottery. However there are a few problems even with this case - you need to make the death/alive outcome as binary as possible, you cannot allow for intermediate states (if you do, you end up with the damaged outcome and still lose the quantum lottery) and you cannot suicide AFTER confirming the win/lose outcome of the lottery because then you have guranteed damaged continuations (as improbable as they could be). Which means that if anyone does attempt something like this, they need an effective binary method of performing the experiment and you need some offline machine that performs it for you that is capable of determining the outcome of some event (for example a win/lose for a lottery or whatever other anthropic condition you chose).

The outcome will be you objectively dead if we live in a magical non-mechanistic world (I highly doubt this, but it's not an impossibility), otherwise it will be you being able to control outcomes of improbable events by only finding yourself in worlds where the outcomes you want will happen. Too bad this immoral as fuck as it means that you give up most statistically common continuations thus making a lot of people sad(those that care about you).

[Anonymous No.]

>>8643243
Why would other suffer if I'm gone?

please respond

[Anonymous No.]

>>8643264
When I think about what would happen if I died in some possible world, I tend to think of: friends and family would be sad because they'd never be able to interact with me. Projects to which I contribute would get stalled thus people would be sad. If people depend on me for something, those dependencies would now be broken, they'd be sad. Someone could be sad if they heard you died. If you were to live there would be a chance that you could make some people happier in the future, that chance is now gone.
In essence, even if quantum immortality or anthropic principle applied to a larger level 4 multiverse or computational immortality or modal immortality or any other similar idea turns out to be true, it doesn't mean that if you decide to exploit it for your personal gain, in most worlds you end up being dead thus inaccessible to those people, with all the negative consequences that might imply for them. Of course, if you're very selfish or lack empathy (or sociopathic), then maybe you don't care about that and thus you're free to do anything you want within logical limits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8643243
Why the fuck should I care if people want me to be alive? They just want my goddamn money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8643367
So you don't have anyone that doesn't care for your money and only cares about you in some other way?
Even if that is the case, that doesn't mean that you don't make them happier in some direct or indirect way. You suddenly stopping existing will cause them to be unhappy, thus if you care for other people's happiness (in a personal or merely utilitarian way) you should avoid making selfish decisions that would harm others.

You're of course free to make any decision, but you must understand the consequences. The usual consequences of someone's death is that some other people will be sad or negatively influenced. The opposite can also happen, but is more rare.

[Anonymous No.]

I've never really attempted it but I've had some really close calls. I'm not one of those faggots who get sent to the hospital all the time with hesitation wounds on their wrists and spend weeks being babied by a "mind doctor" though I genuinely hate my life and see only despair for my future and hold nothing but regrets for the past and to top it off I have no one, there is no pill I can take to better my situation and no one can tell me it'll be okay without knowing its a lie. Having a gun, I've came close twice, both times heavily drugged. Just couldn't pull the trigger. I believe, probably like a lot of people that if you're going to kill yourself you will die. "Failed Attempts" are more like cries for attention in my book. Believe me, I know where to aim so that when I pull the trigger, there will be no chance of survival.

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>>8643422
Still, the failure mode for a gun is bad - if in the unlikely chance you survive, you end up with nasty brain damage, crippled or worse. Why take such a risk? The best methods would either surely undoubtedly kill you with a 1/3^^^^^3- probability or leave you alive. You really don't want to end up alive and crippled.

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>>8643437
Erm, I meant to say "kill you with a 1/3^^^^^3- probability of failure or keep you alive".

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>>8643437
>failing with buckshot
>2012

You are right about there being brain damage sir.

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>>8643422
>I believe, probably like a lot of people that if you're going to kill yourself you will die. "Failed Attempts" are more like cries for attention in my book.

Completely agree with you there bro. People who TRULY want to die IMO aren't that picky with whether the method is painful or how much a method costs. As long as the chances of success are high and they can get their hands on what's needed. Killing themselves is the ONLY thing that matters. Besides, they can't all be the 1/1000 or whatever that properly used a highly reliable method and somehow survived.

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>>8643646
That depends on why we exist and why our reality exists.
Basically physics and/or "metaphysics".
If certain low-complexity theories are true, you cannot really die, but you can experience really nasty low-probability futures, which is why I think it's irresponsible to not use binary methods - either kills you or does nothing at all. Using anything else means that there would be statistically improbable worlds where you somehow survive and yet you're maimed and your quality of life decreases, yet you can't die.
Obviously if you're a depressed person that doesn't think too hard about what they are and what reality is, you might not care that the improbable event can happen to you, but if some theories are true, then all you're doing when killing yourself is merely *killing yourself in most worlds* and surviving maimed or unharmed in other low-probability worlds (which are now high-probability with respect to the one attempting the suicide).

That's not to say I think we have any unlikely survivors in this thread - if stuff is statistically unlikely to happen, don't expect it to happen much with respect to you, just very rarely (law of large numbers, etc).

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>>8643694
I think all you've done is give the drama queens another excuse for why they didn't carry it through or properly use a very reliable method. God dammit there might be one alternate world out of 10000 where I'm likely still alive anyways! People are prone to getting tunnel vision when they concentrate on achieving something they truly want (i.e. offing themselves). How many truly suicidal people d'you reckon worry about the scenario you described?

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>>8643731
> How many truly suicidal people d'you reckon worry about the scenario you described?
Probably none as most are depressed and likely too troubled by other topics, but they should have considered those scenarios as well because they'd want to do one thing (die) and get another (end up crippled). My post wasn't meant as an excuse for them, merely a statement that if they want to do something, they should either do it right or not do it at all (until they can do it right).