/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

So I'm having a house built and would like to have the bathroom in the Japanese style not only because I find it aesthetically pleasing, but because it seems water/energy efficient. This probably belongs in /diy/ but I figured I'd bring it here and see what you guys thought first.

What recommendations do you have as far as construction goes? How difficult would it be to convey to the people building the house exactly what I want, given that it's not a very common house feature where I live (southeast US)? How do you think the cost will compare to the standard western bathroom? Any other comments welcome. Even the faggot comments. I need a good laugh.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll save money and make kannagi house.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>8610958
I don't understand why they have to sit down to take a shower?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8610958
What a dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>8610901
Oh wow take a look at this weeaboo


you've come to the wrong neighborhood motherfucker

[Anonymous No.]

>>8610969
Maybe he just likes to take baths you nerdlinger.

[Anonymous No.]

Have you lived in Japan op? Japanese bathroom are awful.
They're also everything but water/energy efficient, since they take baths EVERYDAY and still need to shower before.

Well, I guess you can still make a good japanese style bathroom if you've got money to spare.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't stand eastern bathrooms. Since washing means using a shower that doesn't separate the shower area and the entirity of the bathroom, you get water everywhere, including places you don't want water to go. The layout of the bathroom floor has to be slightly curved so the water can drain, but the way you set that up with the tiles leaves so much mold that you have to clean.

Since it makes the entire bathroom wet you have to have bathroom slippers for when you want to use it for just brushing your teeth or something. Its all really tedious and incredibly annoying. Full of hassle. I hate it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8610981
>>8610986

OP here. These are also the kinds of comments I was looking for. Will take your comments under consideration.

[Anonymous No.]

Acutally, detachable shower heads are quite common there due to it's popularity in the S-E beaches.
Now, convincing whatever contractors you're using to build that next to a tub, and, in turn, make the sink smaller(basically just a fucking bar with a small drain), will be a bitch.
The amount of work put in to the piping would be fucking insane compared to typical sinks, and might cost more due to labor. In terms of parts, though, it's cheaper yet still gets the job done(might want to point this out, if he says "it'll be more costly").
Just get a normal bathtub, you faggot.
>>8610981
But, unless OP's a raging weeaboo, he's probably just going to chose either/or. Right, OP?

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>>8610986
I thought the area with the toilet/sink was generally separate from the bath and shower.

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>>8610993
Depends if you live in a huge anime house or in a shitty real life apartment.

[Anonymous No.]

Japanese bath system is awesome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8610986

Oh, and everywhere means everywhere. Your entire toilet is going to be splashed with water too. I mean, imagine its like 20 minutes after your shower, and suddenly you have to take a dump, and you realize the toilet is wet. Gross.

Anyways, if you're serious about pulling off this incredibly weaboo and visitor unfriendly endeavor, a few things to note:

1. two faucets like the one in the op image is totally unnecessary and adds to the workload. take it easy.
2. the floor of the bathroom should be a few inches lower than the floor of the house so the water doesn't leave the bathroom when you shower.
3. like mentioned in my earlier post, the floor should be shaped as a slight funnel so the water drains. which also means you need a drain on the floor. which is pretty gross, and awful for plumbing.
4. why the hell would you want to do this to yourself?

Everything else is pretty standard for a bathroom.

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>>8610986
>including places you don't want water to go. The layout of the bathroom floor has to be slightly curved so the water can drain, but the way you set that up with the tiles leaves so much mold that you have to clean.
That must be some old house or something, then. Newer (or modernized) houses have a ユニットバス where there are no tiles to clean, and mold doesn't grow.
> you have to have bathroom slippers for when you want to use it for just brushing your teeth or something.
More modern houses have 脱衣所 where you change/brush teeth separately from the actual wet area.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8610991

OP

I'm not a big fan of bathing in a tub. If I want to soak, I have a hot tub. Basically, I'm wanting a large walk-in shower. I get claustrophobic in my current shower, which is pretty much just a cupboard with a shower head. I also like sitting and lounging around when I take a shower.

[Anonymous No.]

Apartment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8611011
>>8611011
>>8611011

cannot stress how important this is.

>>8611017

If you think your shitty google image search of "Japanese bathroom" is a valid representation of what real Japanese bathrooms are like, then try doing a shitty google image search of an "American bathroom" and let me know if every American has a bathroom like that.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, I guess that having a Japanese bathroom in the US is actually better than having one in Japan.
At least you don't have to deal with shit like the god-awful thermal insulation.

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>>8611031

Solution: Separate the shower area and bathroom with a glass wall/door. Seems some modern Asian bathrooms do it like that, which helps keep the water out of the rest of the bathroom too. Unless visual claustrophobia isn't your problem, and its the physical space...

But wait, you're having people build a house for you? Then size shouldn't really be an issue right? Just make it a super huge anime bathroom.

[Anonymous No.]

Toilet.

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>>8611034
I always wondered, What is that thing on the wall at the end of the tub?

[Anonymous No.]

Toilet

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>>8611066
A module for configuring the temperature of the water. Some of them have TVs built into them.

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>>8611073
Oh, now that would be fucking nice.

OP, spring for that. Make sure it's waterproof, though.

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>>8611073
Interesting, is it just for really long baths or is the water just not drained?

[Anonymous No.]

In Japan, the small toilet rooms are totally separate from the ofuro/bath room. When you walk in, there's usually a big sink area and the clothes washer, then behind some shower door type things is the ofuro room, with the bathtub taking up half of it and the rest for entering in and showering. It doesn't matter if it all gets wet, as it's all separate from the other stuff and designed in such a way that nothing bad happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8611079
You only enter the bathtub after you've cleaned yourself by shower,　so the family uses the same bath water since it's clean anyway. The water is only replaced on a daily basis.

[Anonymous No.]

Home builder/re-modeler construction worker here. I don't know all that much about Japanese style baths so I'm just going to comment on some of the things in this thread.

If you're having the house built from scratch for yourself, then you can pretty much have anything you want, assuming you have the money. As far as custom? or just not standard tubs, sinks etc, that shouldn't be a problem. Pluming will be a bit more difficult but not impossible.

>the floor of the bathroom should be a few inches lower than the floor of the house
>the floor should be shaped as a slight funnel so the water drains

Major, major issues here. Not standard by any means. You would have to sit down with the builder/designer and show him exactly what you want before any building takes place. Having a lower or funnel like bathroom floor is going to be a real bitch to build into the rest of the house. I hope you plan on having it on the first floor of the house.

I honestly have no idea how Japanese baths are setup in terms of flooring and such. I'm not saying it's not possible to have one just be prepared to spend for it. I'm assuming since you're having a custom? house built you can afford it though.

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>>8611088
I guess that makes sense seeing as how a bath is a great way to relax.

I wish i had a bath...

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>>8611089
Google "Unit Bath." You basically buy the entire room and just stick on as a module.

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>>8611102
Ah yes, having the batch as a separate room off one side of the house would be an easy solution. Would solve the pluming and flooring issues. I have honestly never seen one in the US though, I doubt you would want to buy one separate and not build it into the rest of the house.

[Anonymous No.]

TOTO
http://www.toto.co.jp/products/bath/index.htm

INAX
http://inax.lixil.co.jp/products/bathroom/

Takara Standard
http://www.takara-standard.co.jp/product/system_bath/index.html

Panasonic
http://sumai.panasonic.jp/bathroom/

Rinnai
http://rinnai.jp/products/bathroom/

[Anonymous No.]

I take a bath every night a pretend I'm Yuno reflecting on my fun day.

;_;

I support your endeavors, OP.

[Anonymous No.]

Most japanese homes lack central heating. Please tell me you'll have regular american HVAC installed instead of huddling by the kotatsu on the floor in the dead of winter.

[Anonymous No.]

install one of these

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>>8611303
I live in my mom's basement. We keep our house at 58 degrees F all winter and I get by just fine with just a space heater under my desk. Call me a fucking weeaboo, but I'd honesty love a kotatsu.

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>>8611441
I built a kotatsu for a little under $200 in parts a couple of years back. Best spending decision EVER. Uses very little electricity compared to a space heater (since it traps the heat), is fun, and SO WARM.

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>>8611512
I've wanted to for a long time now, but I always just end up with 30 tabs open, then get sidetracked by something else, open 50 tabs there, then just tell myself I'll get back to the idea soon.

Did you use any particular guide? Did you have to order the heater from Japan? Any brotips to offer?

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For people saying that the floor would have to be a funnel and thus lowered, why wouldn't you just make it a step up into the showering area? Most buildings these days have a lot of overhead area so losing a bit of it shouldn't be that terrible.

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>>8611441
>58F
>14.4C
>winter
>basement

That's pretty warm. Or maybe I just think that due to being Canadian. 15c is seriously a nice sunny day. It's -3c (outside) here and I don't even have the heat on. Costs too much money. I'd reckon it's about 5-10 inside.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there some sort of trick to get /jp/ to help you with Japan/General shit? This thread must have been surprisingly productive for him.

I'm guessing it's OP's humility and how he didn't come across as an idiot.

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>>8611538
I lost drives in my file server so I'm sorry I don't have higher resolution pics. To start with, here's the frame…

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>>8611846
And the frame with the heater mount attached to it. The heating unit is mounted directly under the center of the table.

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>>8611847
And the heating unit, being tested on my desk. Got this from a Japanese seller on eBay. This is the exact same as the unit I bought (not sure if it's the same seller though). It's been running great since December 2009:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Japanese-kotatsu-heater-fan-unit-low-style-foot-warmer-METRO-JAPAN-500w-NEW-
/251004092205?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71027f2d#ht_3353wt_1180

I also got a power stepper, as electric in Japan is 10v less than the U.S., where I live. This is the power stepper I got: http://www.amazon.com/Simran-SM-500J-Japanese-Transformer-Converts/dp/B005GHGPK6

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>>8611853
And finally, the table with the top sitting on it (sorry, no pictures with a blanket that I can find). I chopped some short lengths from a small-diameter wooden rod to use as dowels, which protrude from the underside of the table top, and rest just inside the corners of the frame, to keep the top from sliding around.

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>>8611846
James?

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>>8611856
Oh! Found one of the underside with a couple of my cats resting under it (the cats love the shit out of this thing)!

Accidentally froze my sake, so I stuck it under the table for about 15 minutes to thaw it. :3

[Anonymous No.]

>>8611853

Is the stepdown switch really necessary ?

Going from 110v to 100v I wouldn't think you need it.

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>>8611899
I didn't want to risk buying a fairly expensive heating unit, and having it die way earlier than it normally would because i was running the fan faster and the heat elements hotter than it was designed to. May not actually be necessary.

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>>8611681
Keep in mind that I'm also in the basement--it's notably colder underground than upstairs. You should be careful with your home's temperature, though; you don't want your pipes to freeze/burst or anything.

>>8611856
That looks great! You made the frame and everything, yourself? Do you have a background in making things like this or should it be a relatively easy project for a layman? Did you just get the wood from a local hardware store and sand/stain it to look nice?

I always wondered how the tabletop could sit on top of the futon and not slide around at all. I'll have to read into dowel placement and stuff more, if I decide to seriously pursue this idea.

>>8611853
I knew there would be some kind of issue to deal with, given the voltage and power adapter differences and stuff; planned on asking about that if I got a response. Thanks a lot for all of the images and links, really. I got distracted and forgot about this thread shortly after I posted, so sorry for the very late response.

[Anonymous No.]

Make sure you get a bidet. The sensation of warm water cleansing your butt is heavenly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8611681
Michigan here. That's an excellent temperature. Wouldn't even need a jacket outside.

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't had a shower in a year

[Anonymous No.]

>>8611956
>Michigan here

Wanna hangout?

[Anonymous No.]

Make an open air bath....unless it gets cold where you live. I miss open air baths.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8612208
I've never had one, but In the winter, I always bathe with the window open (blinds closed). Feels good, man.

Where the hell do you take open air baths? Do you live near a natural hot spring?

[Anonymous No.]

風呂上がりのヨーグルトは美味しいなｗ

アメリカ人は、ほとんどバスタブに浸からないらしいね。
疲れが取れないんじゃないのかな？ｗ
俺はシャワーの時もあるけれど、ほとんどバスタブに浸かるよ。
朝起きた時、疲れも取れて、さわやかに目覚めるよ。

[Anonymous No.]

Hey look, you can buy all this shit online.
http://www.sumai-reform.net/unit/apartment/wtype.html

Don't forget to get a kotatsu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8611538
You can buy Kotatsu online in the US from here
http://www.marukaiestore.com/

[Anonymous No.]

>>8612082

Not the same post, but also from Michigan. I'll agree, that is an awesome temperature. We should all hang out dressed as little girls.

[Anonymous No.]

BAD, bad idea OP. Japanese baths are pretty much like owning a tiny swimming pool. There is a reason why rich celebrities in multimillion dollar mansions talk about having "japanese style baths".

Just get a normal bathtub with heating capacity.

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>>8611951
Yeah, I made the frame myself. The legs had diagonal bolts already in them, and there was a kit with four of the metal braces that you can kind-of see in >>8611846 . Got the wood parts from Home Depot, except for the table top, which I got from a local lumber yard. The table top also has edging made of wood that had glue backing that I ironed on, so that the edges weren't ugly cut wood. The edging came on a big roll that you just iron on, and then cut at the edge.

I have some experience doing hobby-type stuff, but wouldn't by any means consider myself pro, or even really that good. Having built one, I'd definitely say that were I to do it again, i'd use dowels in the frame edges, so that the legs were attached to the frame with both dowels and the braces. Otherwise, I've been quite happy with it.