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What's more popular in Japan, Vim or Emacs? Or do they use their own text editors?

>> No.8604137

I don't know what you're talking about but I think it's Emacs.

>> No.8604138

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>> No.8604144

Me. I am more popular in Japan.

>> No.8604143
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>>8604130

>> No.8604146

Actually, at the Japanese game company that I work at, everyone always uses 秀丸エディタ. But for opening "really big server logs", someone once suggested I use Vim.

>> No.8604168

>>8604146
That software looks pretty interesting. Is there a lot of Western stuff used in Japan (besides MS Windows)? Is there much Linux stuff or any Japanese web browsers?

>> No.8604199

>>8604146
Really. What are some of its notable features ? Or is it just because nobody knows English ?

>> No.8604237

>>8604168
>>8604199
I'm not an EXPERT PROGRAMMER so I can't really speak on its merits vs. Vim or Emacs. I just use it because it's what everyone else at work uses, and I think most of them use it because they can't speak English. But, it does do what I need it to do fairly well.

We use CentOS Linux on some of our servers, and Solaris on others. Our workstations are all Windows XP or 7 though. Most people use Firefox or Chrome for browsers, but occasionally people use Sleipnir. Most minor programs have a Japanese equivalent; FFFTP for ftp, TCP Monitor Plus for network monitoring, etc.

>> No.8604377

Vim is for discerning gentlemen; Emacs is for gormless troglodytes.

So OP, I guess the answer is "Emacs".

>> No.8604381

how did the "cheeeeen" scream become a meme?
Is it present in any of the 2hu games?
P-please answer.

>> No.8604383

My care level went through the roof. No really, I can't find it anymore. It's hanging somewhere up there, out of my reach.

>> No.8604401
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>>8604381
It's a popular phrase from bkub comics.

>> No.8604418

>>8604401
thanks!
I wtf'ed at that.

>> No.8604426

nano

>> No.8604427

>>8604381
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jip6DJC7qZA

>> No.8604444

>>8604401
Do you have rebel teen Ran?
That's my favorite. Ran is so silly and cute...

>> No.8604446

>>8604401
What's "playing Alice" supposed to mean anyway?

>> No.8604459

>>8604446
Well, she's half-naked, so supposedly something lewd.

>> No.8604470
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8604470

why use terrible, ugly, outdated text editors like Emacs or Vim when you can use the glorious, superior Eclipse?

Remember This Folks:

GNU Nano, Vim, Emacs == SHIT TIER

Eclipse, Visual Studio == GOD TIER

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>>8604444
Someone already posted it so I had to edit one pixel. Be thankful for my generosity.

>>8604446
Only bad girls know so I'm not going to tell you.

>> No.8604478

>>8604476
Which pixel did you edit? I need to know.

>> No.8604480

>>8604446
Playing doctor

>> No.8604486
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>>8604478
You will never find out for I am a photoshop wizard and always make my edits undetectable to human eyes. This way people may experience the full pleasure of the original picture.

>> No.8604492

>>8604486
You do know that you can just append a random byte to it, right? JPGs have a terminating sequence, so it won't change the displayed picture, even though it changes the hash and the filesize.

>> No.8604497

I use Japanese IME in Emacs sometimes, but it is bad. You end up hitting space for each word separately and the program has a bad tendency of giving the most obscure choices first. I'm not sure, though, perhaps it can be rectified with some alternative plugin or a dictionary.

>> No.8604501

>>8604492
I have been outclassed, for I do not know what that means.

>> No.8604505

Japs prefer windows

>> No.8604520

which text editor and compiler did ZUN use to write the touhou games? I assume he is used C++ to program. Also did he use directx or opengl?

>> No.8604529

>>8604501
Means all the content of the picture will remain unchanged while the file itself is different.

>> No.8604582

>>8604470
I'm assuming "god tier" means highest memory consumption, or perhaps highest number of useless panes and tabs? I can't think of any other metric you could possibly be using.

>> No.8604586

>>8604492
To a Windows user, appending a random byte is probably harder than opening the image in Paint and twiddling a pixel.

>> No.8604594

>>8604586
How would you go about doing it on Linux? Could come handy some day.

>> No.8604613

>>8604594
Not that good with this stuff but I'd probabl do something like:

dd if=/dev/random of=/tmp/byte bs=1 count=1 ; cat /tmp/byte file.jpg > new.jpg

>> No.8604619

>>8604594
Not actually a 'random' byte, but I'd do:

echo -en '\0' | cat foo.jpg - > foo_new.jpg

However, I just tried this on an image posted in this thread, and even though the MD5 changed it's still giving me a "duplicate file error".

>> No.8604669

>>8604619
If you want an actual random byte, you could do:

head -c1 /dev/random | cat foo.jpg - > foo_new.jpg

Or equivalently (might only work in bash, not sure):

cat foo.jpg <(head -c1 /dev/random) > foo_new.jpg

But again, trying this still gives me a duplicate file error. Not sure what duplicate detection method 4chan is using, since it's apparently not a simple checksum.

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>>8604619

$ dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1 count=100 | cat randomtest.jpg - > randomtest-new.jpg

Same problem. Would obviously have to change something other than adding random data at the end of the file.

Picture unrelated. Can’t be bothered to refresh to “un-select” an image.

>> No.8604690

how do I ssh into Gensokyo? Would I need to know what ZUN's passphrase is?

>> No.8604692

>>8604520
Wiki says Visual Studio. And he uses Direct3D.

>>8604669
Figured dd(1) was probably overkill. Also should've been using /dev/urandom, and apparently I misread that the byte was meant to be at the end of the file. But there we go.

>> No.8604698

>>8604690
He's not an idiot, so I assume he's using a private/public keypair. So you'd need to hack into his system to get the private half, plus setting up a keylogger to grab the passphrase to actually decrypt it. And then you might need to spoof his IP address, if he's got Gensokyo's firewall set up to only allow certain IPs.

>> No.8605180

>>8604669
It used to work a few years back, but they changed it. I can't even remember how long its been now.

>> No.8605287
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>>8604470

>> No.8605314

I think it's Emacs but Japs aren't really into Open Source.

>> No.8605320

>not using Kwrite, Kate, or Gedit
Get out.

>> No.8605332

notepadesu

>> No.8605339 [DELETED] 

>>8604130
>>8604401
>>8604418
Damn, I've never had this MUCH desise to KILL before in my life.

>> No.8605342
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>>8605314

>> No.8605350

>>8605342
WHAT THE FFUCK IS THAT BUMP ON HER RIGHT HAND

>> No.8605351

>>8605342
^^

>> No.8605352

>>8604130
>>8604381
>>8604401
>>8604418
Damn, I've never had this MUCH desise to KILL before in my life.

>> No.8605358

>>8605339
>>8605352
Yeah, yeah, we heard you already. Go play elsewhere, adults are talking.

>> No.8605380

>>8605358
>adults
IS THERE ANY THING MATURE ABOUT THAT POSTS!?

>> No.8605415

>>8605380
In fact, an adult person would not spend so much time on the internet, let alone at /jp/, or 4chan for that matter, so he would not know the correct way to post in order to be taken seriously.

So you can't know if those posts are made by an adult or by a kid. Also mature does not equal adult.

>> No.8605491

FYI I think the hashes are based on image (possibly thumbnail) content rather than the actual file data. ImageMagick and other software can do this.

>> No.8605570

>>8604130
>>8604377
Why is it that I'm literally the only person who uses Emacs at work. I can use vim but fuck if I don't prefer Emacs.

Am I just queer?

>> No.8605575

>>8605570
People probably get turned off by the somewhat unintuitive keybindings and never try to go further.

>> No.8605804

/jp/ - Touhou Shitposting Programming Culture

>> No.8605810

>>8605570
Default keybindings are awkward as HELL and some people think a text editor should be a text editor. Emacs is pretty much its own OS. In fact people have made Emacs-based OSes which are basically just a tiny kernel and init that boot you straight into Emacs.

>> No.8605815

when will someone port the 2hu games over to emacs?

>> No.8605830

>>8605815
They'll make a free software clone that sucks compared to the original, and call it danmakGNU or some equally contrived pun.

>> No.8605843

>>8605830

If someone ever makes a Linux distro that comes bundled with the win Touhou games ported over to linux, some 2hu themes and skins, I would seriously consider installing that.

>> No.8605850

>>8605830
GNUhou

>> No.8605851

>>8605804
You're pretty much correct.

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>>8605843
Cherimoya GNU/Linux comes with Wine and Touhou pre-configured. The problem is...well, pic related.

>> No.8605887

>>8605570
I can't into keyboard chording, so I prefer vim.

>> No.8605903

>>8604497
Try using Google IME (Google日本語入力). Has much better autocomplete.

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