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What is /jp/'s honest opinion on Tsukihime and KT?

>> No.8577398

curry butt

>> No.8577396

pleb

>> No.8577397

Is that Tsukihime any good guise?

>> No.8577402

Pretty weel

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>>8577393

>> No.8577406
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>> No.8577415

Japanese Twilight.

>> No.8577411
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8577411

Can't you ask something more stupid, OP?
WHATAS JPEE OPINIONN BOUT TOHOOO?@!?!?!?!

>> No.8577413

5/5 would play again. Seriously.

>> No.8577416

Tsukihime is okay.

KT is horrible with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

>> No.8577418

But seriously it's just a rewording of this >>8574956

>> No.8577419

the girl in it is moe

>> No.8577417

WHATAS JPEE OPINIONN BOUT TOHOOO?@!?!?!?!

>> No.8577422

Pretty enjoyable. Still one of my favorite VNs.

>> No.8577427
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8577427

some good shit.

arc is my waifu

>> No.8577428

>>8577427
3225x4492

>> No.8577438

>>8577428
Huh? High resolution, it's nice. Sucks to be you.

>> No.8577439

Does it really rip off Kizuato that much? Is Kizuato any good, for that matter?

>> No.8577484

>>8577416
>KT is horrible

Len you gaylord.

>> No.8577486

So which VN did Tsukihime rip-off? Kusarihime or Kizuato?

>> No.8577528

>>8577486
Kizuato.
Kusarihime is newer and not similar at all.

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>>8577427
>arc
I like her so much
so knowledgeable and yet innocent
so simple in dress and yet has one of the curviest bodies in T-M
so beautiful and yet so dangerous
so powerful and yet so weak
I like how they made her

>> No.8577542

Tsukihime's only redeemable quality is that it's the precursor to KT. KT神げ.

>> No.8577561

>>8577439
It rips off the setting and characters. It differs a bit, but anyone with half a brain will see throught the

>> No.8577568

>>8577542

> KT神げ.

ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ

>> No.8577585

>>8577561
>implying anyone cares about a obscure, untranslated VN

>> No.8577609

>>8577585
It's translated. I'm kind of surprised I've never seen a thread on it on /jp/.

>> No.8577614

>>8577609
In progress.

>> No.8577633

>>8577568
I'm serious. Nanaya is the only good thing about the nasuverse.

>> No.8577637

>>8577614

And no updates since 2010.

>> No.8577665

>>8577633
Wow, nanaya fanboys still exist. That's kind of sad.

>> No.8577675

>>8577665
>Implying it's not true
Full faggot alert

>> No.8577688

tsukihime would be better without all the angel notes shit being mixed into its backstory.

>> No.8577690

>>8577633
Oni blood transformation said hello.

>> No.8577697

What makes Tsukihime better than FSN is the atsmosphere, you can feel the danger , the drama, the mindfuck.The

music does a better job to add to the atmosphere than FSN.The characters interactions are so superior to the

character interactions of FSN that it hurts,and the slice of life segments and Shirou's Pov are fucking

annoying.FSN plot is too forced at times, some times they lead to plot holes,weak plot or unexplainable

developments.Tsukihime's plot flows better, it's simple and credible..
Tsukihime's plot is also more mature, each resolution have more weight to them 1) Arc and Shiki didn't end up in

good terms in Ciel's True End, 2) After every single of the Far Side of the Moon routes, Arc and Ciel will keep

hunting Roa, 3) Akiha ends up as a doll in one ending, 4) Akiha and Kohaku die in another end, 5) Hisui's Good End

wasn't precisely happy. In F/sn, only 2 characters couldn't be saved: 1) Ilya in UBW, 2) Saber and Ilya in HF.
Shirou never actually shows his resolve when it comes to deal with people who are prepared to kill,and the story

does not have serious and mature Masters - aside from Zōken-and the only time Shirou had to confront one of his

friends, was in HF against Black Saber. Shiki, on the other hand, had to fight Arc, Ciel, Akiha, and Satsuki at

some point - there's also the point when he realises all what Kohaku has been doing.
FSN is just too light and aimed at teenagers. That why the dark and cold as ice Tsukihime is superior.

>> No.8577748

>>8577633
i like Nanaya and all but you just went full retard.

>> No.8577908

>>8577697
>FSN is just too light and aimed at teenagers. That why the dark and cold as ice Tsukihime is superior.
Gritty grim stories aren't exactly any less teen material you know. One could even argue the opposite.

>> No.8577955

>look for white ren doujins
>all of them are shit
Japan, what the fuck are you doing

>> No.8577971

>>8577955
KT is lame and all in it because it became too different from Kizuato.

I ask you to compare. the more Nasu tries his own ideas, the worse it gets.

>> No.8577989

>>8577971
he talks about white len, not the black one. she was from melty which is not even canon.

>> No.8577995

>>8577989
My point stands.

>> No.8577998

VNs for mature people such as myself:
>VNs I like

VNs for teenagers:
>VNs I don't like

>> No.8578004

>>8577995
yeah but it's completely unrelated to what he said. kagetsu toya != melty blood.

i could say that katawa shojo is a shitty game and my point will also stand even though it's not related to what you said.

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>>8577989
>not conon

this man would like to have a word with you

>> No.8578016

considering that tsukihime was made by just a few fuys mostly for fun, great
It and Higurashi are some of the best amateur works out there

In actual terms, it's a bit above average, it also disguises 2 routes as having 5,
Arc and Ciel's are literally the exact same shit
Akiha/Kohaku/Hisui were the same, but not complete shit and had some differences, really the only good part of the game
KT really doesn't get the respect it deserves, and also we like Tsukihime for giving us the goddess that is Sion in its spin-off

>> No.8578021

What annoyed me the most with Tsukihime was all the Nanaya/Roa hijinks.
Most of the time its just really sudden, forcing events and drama to transpire.

At least I was bothered by it. I mean, the concepts and ideas behind it might perhaps not be that bad, but some force that kicks in and slowly but surely forces some kind of shit, and not to be speaking of "fade to black" -> "A whole bunch of drama happened!".
That's just sort of bad, or so I would say.

One might argue that it is just picking on details, and Tsukihime is far from restricted to this alone. Doesn't really change how it kept bothering me though.

>> No.8578022
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Two of my favorite VNs. Seriously.

>>8577971
You sound upset.

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>>8578016
roastbeef sideburger > sion

>> No.8578035

>>8578026
Riesbyfe Battlemountain is just such a classy name that you can't really argue with it. .

>> No.8578036

>>8578021
>Nanaya/Roa hijinks.

were there really that many fans back in the day?

i did not brows /jp/ when it was on its prime.

>> No.8578037

>>8578022
You need better VNs.

>> No.8578047

>>8578026
wasn't she the principal of that fucked up church school in KNK?

>> No.8578050

How much of KT is considered canon?

>> No.8578058

>>8578037
I've burned through 99% of the VN recommendation lists, I'd say I have seen a good variety of VNs to make that claim soundly.

>>8578047
Some people think it's "her" but not the same "her". Alternate universe shit. I'm not sure if Nasu has addressed that or not.

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>>8578058
Alternate universes are retarded.

>> No.8578075

>>8578071
then dont read type moon serise. they have plenty thanks to this asshole.

>>8578009

>> No.8578150

>>8577697
>The music does a better job to add to the atmosphere than FSN.
>yakety sax

in all seriousness, Tsukihime didn't really have a soundtrack. Only the piano song was notable. While FSN's music was overall very good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaWXiKPVxpA

>> No.8578161

>>8578150
Shame it barely had any songs for such length.

>> No.8578179

>>8578150
What?

Most of the FSN music was really generic. Tsukihime had awesome music that fit the scenes perfectly...phantom dance and charming summer were perfect.

>> No.8578189

>>8578179
>phantom dance
oh, never heard that one. It wasn't in the original.
Still, I disagree with you. What is generic about Church on the Hill?

>> No.8578195

FSN had awful musical direction

>> No.8578200

>>8578189
It was in the original. If you never heard it, your installation might have been broken.

The OST i downloaded only has numbers and no names for the FSN tracks, so im not sure which you are referring to.

>> No.8578201

>>8578189
Everything.
Organ for a church theme, how original.

>> No.8578210

>>8578189
Superior Clergy theme
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl7HoE9zY9c

>> No.8578211

Tsukihime is babby's first VN and my first VN. The grimdark story was awesome to me since I read it in high school. I probably would not read it if it came out today.

And to add to the shitstorm, FSN > Tsukihime in music. I can't remember a single track from Tsukihime, but I can remember a few tunes from FSN, even though I ctrled through the latter.

>> No.8578213

>>8578211
>babby's first VN
>2012
>still trying to force this meme

>> No.8578217 [DELETED] 

>>8578213
Who are you quoting?

>> No.8578221

I don't get how people can pretend to be objective towards a VN soundtrack, since most of the impact it has is subjective to the reader. Through the experiences we have whilst listening to a music, we give it our own special value. That's the most important part, imo.

I can't listen to This Illusion (piano) without being almost brought to tears, and yet someone else who has played the game is probably indifferent to it. Music appreciation is very subjective once you have played the game.

>> No.8578225

>>8578221
But you can judge it by relative overall quality of the tracks and overall music direction quite well.

>> No.8578226

>>8578221
>durr stop pretending to dislike what i like

>> No.8578232

>>8578221
You are right in that the musical direction is very important.
But one of FSN main problem is that the musical direction is just very bad with some themes that are repeat ad nauseam when some of the most interesting themes can only be heard in 2-3 very short scenes.

>> No.8578239

>>8578050
Nasuverse is a multiverse.
It's canon.

>> No.8578257 [DELETED] 

>>8578150
i dunno, the 'bewitching summer' track did create a nice spooky mood, especially if you used the remastered version from that one soundtrack cd.

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Track16.mp3?w=2bc6b6d5

>> No.8578256 [DELETED] 

>>8578217
>2012
>Still cannot figure out who someone is quoting

>> No.8578259

>>8577697
I prefer Spaghetti

>> No.8578264

>>8578150
i dunno, the 'bewitching summer' track did create a nice spooky mood, especially if you used the remastered version from that one soundtrack cd.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/62600417/Track16.mp3

>> No.8578271 [DELETED] 

>>8578256
Who are you quoting?

>> No.8578274 [DELETED] 

>>8578232
I don't see how that is necessarily a problem. Repetition can be an interesting effect in itself (why would we need 10 separate musics for cooking scenes? if they are meant to be repetitive and slow, might as well make the music go with it). And having some great themes used at specific points gives them more impact.
I'm not saying that the music quality nor the music direction are not nearly enough perfect, but to me they fully filled their role. Then again, I'm no expert, so I might as well stop here and admit that most people are simply more exigent than me.

>> No.8578278

>>8578274
>I don't see how that is necessarily a problem. Repetition can be an interesting effect in itself (why would we need 10 separate musics for cooking scenes?

It's been a long time since I saw someone as delusional as you.
FSN is 4 fucking mb of text and there is like 10 tracks that play during 90% of the game.
Yes this is a big problem, especially since these tracks are far from being great.

>> No.8578279

>>8578232
I don't see how that is necessarily a problem. Repetition can be an interesting effect in itself (why would we need 10 separate musics for cooking scenes? if they are meant to be repetitive and slow, might as well make the music go with it). And having some great themes used at specific points gives them more impact.
I'm not saying that the music quality and the music direction are close to perfect, but to me they fully filled their role. Then again, I'm no expert, so I might as well stop here and admit that most people are simply more exigent than me.

>> No.8578301

In terms of music, I'd choose G-Senjou no Maou anydays.
Yes, I'm completely off-topic.

>> No.8578320

>>8578278
Delusional? We simply appreciate music from a different aspect. You mainly see music as something with a relatively fixed quality meant to accompany a scene, I see (and use) it as a recipient for feelings.
I'm not pretending to know better than you, and I realize that I "shouldn't" perceive music that way. I just wanted to say that it was an important aspect as well, and can justify some of the music direction.

>> No.8578332

>>8578278

Are you saying that Tsukihime is any better in that regard?

Because it's much worse, half the scenes just use the same piano track looping over and over.

>> No.8578710

the only soundtrack i loved about Tsukihime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIleIBSm_zc

>> No.8578730

My favorite F/SN track was the Tsukihime medley.

>> No.8578747

>>8578710
>Track 07
>Track Nana
>Nanaya

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