/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

what board has the best drawfriends?

[Anonymous No.]

/i/

[Anonymous No.]

rika nipa in you house

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I was a cute little girl making doujinshi with other cute little girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/v/
>>>/co/

[Anonymous No.]

Who ARE the best drawfags? Any (nick)names?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8553075
They are all shit

I haven't seen one drawfag that posts his works here that I could consider good

[Anonymous No.]

>>8553084
Where are your standards? Does good equal outright professional?

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/tg/

/tg/ also best board on 4chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>8553090
This is /tg/'s current drawthread:
>>>/tg/17865505

[Anonymous No.]

this guy from a long time ago on /b/

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>>8553089
Not really

I consider good what is pleasant to look at without immediately finding faults in it,
a certain amount of originality both in drawing-style and the image itself
and the picture should look like it's finished

thats it basically

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[Anonymous No.]

>>8553108
Any examples? Not necessarily a drawing made by a drawfag.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>8553118
>any examples

too many too count
none from /jp/ or /a/ though which are the only boards I browse
maybe there are actually good drawfags somewhere else on 4chan

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>>8553136
Speaking of immediately spottable errors, Sakuya's head doesn't sit very well with her body.

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>>8553090
I doubt any of them draw cute 2D girls. That makes them pretty low tier.

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>>8553163
Her head looks fine from that pov
there are other things you could've mentioned (weird knee shading on the right leg, poorly drawn knifes)

and still it looks good on first glance
of course if you would inspect every detail of a picture you would find more and more flaws, but there are hardly any pictures where that doesn't apply and more often than not it starts into going into opinion>opinion territory at those points.

I would just once like to see someone from /jp/ draw something that I would actually save

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

/jp/ has best drawfriends and musicfriends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8553205
>post a shitty illustration
>talks about ablilty to see the difference between good and bad art
>who am I quoting
lrntocritique
lrntodraw
etc

[Anonymous No.]

drawfag-threads on /a/ are pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

Best art.

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>>8553236
It's also full of meme-spouting kids who add memes to their drawings. No thanks.

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>>8553205
>>8553136
>>8553108
While artists sure appreciate a few kind comments for a little fun, it's not very practical to start drawing time and effort consuming illustrations for random people on image boards. Normally there should be some other motive behind it, or the artists get almost certainly bored with it.

At least if the level of quality you seek matches your examples. Sure there might an exception or two, but mostly it just doesn't work out.

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>>8553235
go back to /v/

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I've seen some pretty good ones on /x/.

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>>8553236
No, they're shit
The only good quality drawings are on /ic/, but I've only seen a couple that are keep tier
There are few individuals with the ability to draw that would do something for another person for no gain, the ones that usualy post are just dA level attention whores.

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>>8553236
The "official" drawfag chain is 98% requests. The majority of their best drawfags are inactive or gone.

Waifu/summoning drawfag threads are often quick doodles usually without any other theme than the character itself, but at least they are more active.

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>>8553249
Show me any memes: http://danbooru.donmai.us/post?tags=drawfag&searchDefault=Search

Most of these arts are pretty good / ironic / funny / lovely.

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>>8553250
I know what you mean

but that is exactly the reason why you can't really say if a board has good drawfags at all

unless you know their pixiv/artist names/ deviantart there's no way to confirm if anyone here is actually good

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>>8553260
And you have nothing to contribute obviously, just shitting left and right and "judging" their works.

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>>8553261
>Show me any memes: http://danbooru.donmai.us/post?tags=drawfag&searchDefault=Search
Because danbooru has all the images drawn by /a/-drawfags.

Also, what do you win in defending them with such passion?

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>>8553275
What do you win by making sweeping generalizations?

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>>8553267
Why would he have to contribute with anything? Learn to accept critique.

>>8553278
Same for you.

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>>8553267
I think calling thier drawings shit is a very nice thing to do, it destroys all their confidence as the errors are pointed out. They can make the decision to either get better or stay ignorant and think that they can draw.
Welcome to /ic/

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>>8553021
I wish I could go back in time. I've made so many mistakes and I'm afraid they cannot be undone. I just want to be happy.

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>>8553267
Are yo seriously implying art shouldn't be judged?

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>>8553260
It's funny because /ic/ is 99% shit

But hey that's just my opinion and you must be completely retarded to think that you can objectively criticize art,

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>>8553284
>>8553288
There's a bit of a difference between legitimately pointing out errors and just calling something shit.

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>>8553295
He can't judge art but you can judge him.
Hypocrisy to the maximum, huh?

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>>8553295
I've seen one good artist with a name there, cryptcrawler
Everyone else is shit, I agree with that.
I haven't seen anyone else on any 4chan board that can draw
Thus, /ic/ wins

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>>8553312
You sure have some ridiculous standards.

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>>8553297
Why would you call something shit if it looks good?
It's shit because it sucks

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>>8553311
Welcome to the internet you fucking twat

my opinion > yours

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>>8553315
My standards are below those of a good artist, yours are absolute shit

[Anonymous No.]

I guess he's expecting to have art like that left and right on 4chan, like it's not a big deal.
Retard with retarded standards, obviously not an artists himself.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Hey Anon why don't anons so harshly judge 4chan posted music in the same manner as 4chan posted art?

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>>8553329
>blaming your inability to differentiate between shit art and good art on my standards
You're exactly like the circlejerk that surrounds the /a/ drawthread
I call them out on shit art and they ignore me, praising the shit produced by the so called drawfags
Fucking plebs

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>>8553312

Why don't you post an example of "good art" then, faggot?

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>>8553335
because music is even more subjective than that
I mean if something like lolicore and dubstep can be called music,
there can't be any objective standards.

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>>8553342
Wow poor baby you get ignored on /a/ threads?

How about you learn to deal with it
people have different tastes and lower standards than you.
Does that make them bad people? Maybe.
Does anyone care? no

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>>8553335
Learning how to draw is easier than learning how to compose/arrange
How is one supposed to critique when one has mediocre knowledge of it?

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>>8553352
>Does anyone care? no
You seem to care enough about his judgement to be replying until now.

Drop the defensive attitude kiddo. We're not even fighting and yet you are.

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>>8553360
I'm just enjoying a conversation

And how am I being defensive?
I actually share the opinion that most art posted on 4chan is trash,
but I don't try to force my opinion down on other peoples throats and pretend it's a fact, because after all it's just my opinion.

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>>8553344
Jessie Willcox Smith
Animu wise is hard to say, since everything is simplified

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>>8553378
But the golden rule is that my taste>yours
As soon as you've forgotten that, you've lost

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>>8553382
What the hell is that? We're clearly talking 2D here.

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>>8553382
Are you kidding me? Those pictures look like shit

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>>8553382

>Animu wise is hard to say, since everything is simplified

Exactly, isn't that the point, isn't that the style? What's 'shit' about it? I'm not looking for Galileo to draw my animu loli's

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>>8553399
You can easily achieve a drawing has no errors animu style but not look amazing
All animu is easy as fuck to learn how to draw, it just depends on how you want to stylize
Animu should stay animation, not illustrations
And all drawings/paintings are 2d, it's not restricted to aliens

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>>8553407
Shit as in mistakes
composition errors
etc

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>>8553402
She has minimum error in her illustrations, though if they aren't to your liking you have shit taste
She's one of the best 3dloli artists

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>>8553436
What kind of errors are you talking about?
Anyways

the colors create a depressing feeling
settings look bland and boring there's nothing special
as if she was just painting what she saw

how can you possibly think this is great art and consider yourself some kind of art-connoisseur is beyond me

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>>8553436

Well you realize that just because it lack errors that doesn't make it appealing to look at while and at the same time something can be amateurish and flawed but still be fun too look at. I wouldn't post his shit on my refrigerator to be honest.

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>>8553415
>All animu is easy as fuck to learn how to draw,

Haha, no. Shitty animu style artwork? You'd be right.

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>>8553236

I frequent the /a/ drawfag thread very often. The really only acceptable drawfags tends to really be from /jp/ themselves. Like Sai or Mags. The threads are completely horribly in terms of art or drawing in general because they always have a 1,000:2, Request/Delivery ratio. It would be nice if the threads could have more OC and shit, but a lot of people on /a/ go full hardcore shit mode whenever somebody posts something that isn't related to a request. It's ridiculous, really. The only good thing as of late are the waifu drawthreads, but even in comparison to the drawfag general that thread is quickly deteriorating down the shit hole as well. It's almost impossible to see any drawing out of anyone on /a/ anymore. At least, outside of the waifu drawings.

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>>8553485
show me one animu pic that requires a shitton of skill

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>>8553451
Proportion is the most common error

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>>8553500
There are enormous amounts of animestyle pictures that have the proportions right as well

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>>8553451
And what illustrations were you looking at?
Most of her art are bright depictions of lolis in the 1900s , happiness oozes from them. You have a unique way of interpreting things.

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>>8553515
Composition
Weight
Perspective
Rendering
etc

[Anonymous No.]

/ic/, that should go without saying.
Pic by tehmeh, a former namefag. I think he's gone now, though.

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>>8553550
Nice and blotchy
Tradition painting on computers works out amazingly

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>>8553535

Except for perspective I don't see how you can have errors in any of the other points as most of them are partially or even downright subjective to opinion

[Okuu !!Jq0MHPvHhpb No.]

Jaaypee

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>>8553562
Composition errors - no link between subjects, breaking rule of thirds, etc
Weight errors - no feel to the drawing, clothes look like they're paper, stiff, etc
Rendering errors - see picture by tehmeh above, bad cel-shading, etc

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>>8553550
boring as hell,
he sure is good in getting proportions and shading/coloring down but the whole picture itself looks bland

might as well look at the reference photo

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>>8553574

Isn't all of that still pretty subjective?

[Anonymous No.]

Obviously /ic/, that's what it's there for.

Also, don't trust anyone's opinion whose work you haven't seen.

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>>8553582
>don't trust anyone's opinion whose work you haven't seen.
Yes, because someone needs to show their work first to be able to pass judgement and criticize others. That makes a lot of sense. Especially on an anonymous imageboard, right?

[Anonymous No.]

Those are all subjective

especially weight and rendering "errors"

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>>8553574
>Rendering errors - see picture by tehmeh above
Holy fuck you are the most autistic person I've seen all day.
>breaking rule of thirds
Shit nigga, stop embarrassing yourself already.

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>>8553590
>>8553577
No, they are all factors in making an artwork visually appealing
Break them without the knowledge of doing so shows the lack of skill an artists has. It looks like shit.

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>>8553603
No you can have pictures look very good even though they do the exact same thing as the "errors" you mentioned

You say
>>8553550
has rendering errors?
It actually gives the picture a rough and wildish aspect that looks better than what a photograph of that would look like

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>>8553594
You're perfectly welcome to listen to whatever you'd like but following that rule will vastly ameliorate the signal-to-noise, /especially/ on an IB.

Also, stop critiquing what I don't critique.

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>>8553599
>>8553613
Tehmeh uses tehniques meant for traditional medium, learn to blend if your using a computer
And don't make fun of the rule of thirds

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>>8552976
This is the only mention of /i/ in the thread?
Of course oekaki is pretty much dead and /ic/ has better artwork overall, but it blows my mind to see that people can create great images first time with a relatively simple Java applet. Watching the animations of people draw is amazing. They're not pasting it into Photoshop then fixing things up, they're just sitting there drawing and doing it awesomely. All in less than an hour or two.
Unfortunately right now the board seems to be full of gimmicky threads rather than any real artwork, but I'm sure there are good examples I can't be bothered to find.

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>>8553613
You can't break what you don't know, the pictures you mentioned are probably created by someine with full knowledge of doing so. I point them out when someone has no knowledge of their error. And if they did it on purpose, they can easily say so.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is everyone so mad? Pfftt

[Anonymous No.]

>>8553663
Welcome to /jp/

now get out of /jp/

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>>8553663
>>>/v/
>>>/a/
>>>/b/

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>>8553647
Seriously bro, if you can't even tell that it's fucking rough because it's a goddamn sketch and this type of blocking is a natural way to do it if you're practicing, it invalidates your opinion instantly.
And no one who isn't a fucking first year art student is going to get their panties in a bunch about the rule of thirds.
Just fucking get out.
Nothing bothers me more than people who read a single book or a couple tutorials and think they're oh so much smarter because they can point out "errors" that no one who did ANY FUCKING ART WHATSOEVER would give two shits about.
(other than the autistics who complain about anatomy going on from some memorized arcane fixed proportion rules without ever as much as looking as two different real people, but those are a special case.)

[Anonymous No.]

Drawfag-threads on /a/ are good.

Plebes can be mad because of that whenever they like to.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you guys shitting up the thread by talking about real art? I just want to see cute 2D girls.

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>>8553689
No source image was shown
Ideal porportions>you
Errors make shit look bad, stay ignorant

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>>8553705
No ones mad at anything.
/a/ on the other hand assumes a defensive position for no reason when being criticized. Learn to grow up and accept judgement.You're going to face it everyday.

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>>8553705

Bro, I'm always in the /a/ drawfag threads. You can't be serious. Some of the deliveries are good, but when there are infinite more requests than deliveries, shitposting, and drawfags too picky to draw anything when they are only doing sketches or the like, you can see how bad things are.

[Anonymous No.]

melodika magika

let us talk about malodika magika

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>>8553760
Cute

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>>8553665
>>8553670
Pfft, whatever happened to "take it easy"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8553760

She's a shit.

[Anonymous No.]

/ic/ visits /jp/: the thread.

[Anonymous No.]

we have magister, we win.