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Doujin games thread, anyone?
Recently tried this one out on Steam, I'm quite enjoying it. Curious what some favourites of other people are.

>> No.8499968

>Steam

Reported

>> No.8499974

What do you do after sana becomes sick? Do you have to do the next dungeon alone?

>> No.8499973

>>8499968
Yes, because doujin games aren't related to /jp/ at all.

>> No.8499990

how is this a doujin game

>> No.8499991
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>>8499974
Yes, you do. It's not that hard, really.

>> No.8499997

I remember this...
What's the name again?

>> No.8499986

Why do CF devs still try to viral their releases here?

>> No.8500000

>>8499990
stop being mad because it isn't about touhou

>> No.8500010

>>8499991

That sucks. And why are you so poor?

>> No.8500012

>>8500000
“stop being mad because it isn't about touhou” is now a meme, as per the GET Initiative c. 2005.

>> No.8500009

I don't see any Japanese text anywhere.

>> No.8500017

>>8500010
Bought some leather armor and a revival potion. Haven't been grinding up to max level every time I find an emblem because it's too much effort.

>> No.8500013

There's already a thread up for your viral marketing.

>> No.8500026

This is not a doujin game anymore. Go back to /v/.

>> No.8500035
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>>8500026
>>8500013
>>8500009
>>8499990
Your sages only make me stronger. Anyways, I was asking about other games, possibly in this style, that people like. I'm not trying to promote CF. Would be perfectly happy to talk about other things than FS.

>> No.8500044

del

>> No.8500046
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>>8499986
To try and sell their shitty translations.
Left is CF, right was a normal translation several years earlier.

>> No.8500059
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>>8500046
Yeah... never went for that one. I stuck with the fan translation from ages ago.

>> No.8500056

>>8500035
>Your sages only make me stronger.
Confirmed for /v/ user.

Indie games are not /jp/ content. Get the fuck out of here and ask on /v/ instead if you want serious discussion.

>> No.8500064

>>8500056

It's a translated japanese game. It has as much of a right to be here as translated novels.

>> No.8500061

I feel bad about buying Recettear after learning how greedy the fucks behind the localizations were.

>> No.8500067
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8500067

I liked Genius of Sapphieros, personally.

>> No.8500068

>>8500061

How so?

>> No.8500075

>>8500064
And translated manga right?
Oh wait.

>> No.8500092
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8500092

>>8500064
SUPER MARIO GENERAL

It's /jp/ related because it's a translated japanese game series.

>> No.8500089

>>8500046
>>8500059
Got a link to the translation patch? I'm interested in playing Recettear, but don't like how badly CF raped the script.

Google is failing me.

>> No.8500095

>>8500067
Pretty nice game. Kinda got bored at the beginning of the sunflower level.

The new Youmu game is amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoemDQ777BE

>> No.8500104

>>8500089
I picked it up years ago, sadly didn't save the website I got it from for posterity. I'd upload it myself if I still had the patch... just making sure I don't still have it saved somewhere.

>> No.8500100

>>8500061
Please explain. I bought Recettear and I'd like to know.

>> No.8500115
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>>8500095
Yeah, I went 'fuck it' when you had to split your party into two groups a bit later. I'd barely geared everyone else because grinding for equipment materials is such a pain.

That Youmu one looks pretty cool.

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>>8500089

I just started playing Recettear, and honestly a lot of the dialogue is well written and hilarious.

I have no idea if the dialogue is a complete re-write or not. Normally re-write translations enrage the fuck out of me, but honestly even if Recettear is a re-write translation, they did a really good job with it.

>> No.8500130

>>8500089
you're gonna have a hard time finding it. it wasn't a fan translation, it was a localized version of the game sold in europe by a company that went under many years ago. if you try googling niw you'll probably only find CF's version in most warez sites, not to mention that megaupload and several other filehosts went down... so the links are probably gone forever. I'm sorry.

Maybe you could try the following. go into the archive, click "view same" for this image >>8500046
I made and posted those comparison screens right before the game was released (using CF's demo) maybe i posted the DL links I used

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>>8500000
>>8499999
Well shit.
I don' even--

>> No.8500135

I will never forget the day when Carpe Fulgur bought someone from 4chan staff to promote Recettear release here and we had to suffer the humiliation of viral marketing.

>>8500123
Enjoy your cuteness being stolen.

>> No.8500139

>>8500135

Yeah, this is another problem. The devs are basically shills going around forcing their viral marketing on forums and none of the games really got around by word of mouth.

>> No.8500152

Moot needs to just delete /jp/ already.

>> No.8500149

>>8500115

If you thought that was stupid, later in the game they make you split into 3 parties.

Yes, you don't even get full parties.

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>>8500135
I don't really give a crap about CF, I just like adorable loli dungeoncrawling. Was hoping someone would post along the lines of "Well, if you like THAT, you'd enjoy this far more because it's a superior game" with a link to some site about something in moonrunes I can't understand a word of.

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>>8500149
Ye gods, really?
I'm annoyed enough with having to outfit everyone in gear that isn't three dungeons behind where I am at this point. Dragons and their refusal to drop Silver Trays.

>> No.8500172

Which one of you fagstorms posted this shit on proggles?

>> No.8500173

Another problem I guess that I have with these games is that they have a really annoying art style. I dunno, the characters just look really annoying.

>> No.8500174

http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=torrentinfo&tid=282410

SA piggu go away.

>> No.8500182

Best doujin game is best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWoMSsCp2J8

>> No.8500183

>>8500173

Well now you're just being a nit-picking douche.

>> No.8500180

>>8500000
nice GET dude

>> No.8500186

I release a whirlwind of furious sage fists. Can you block my tsunami of doom, OP?

>> No.8500191

>>8500183

A game can have shitty art and visuals and still be good. For example almost every WRPG. I liked Recettear but I never thought it was pretty.

Deal with it.

>> No.8500202

>>8500166

Everyone has a niche anyway so level those bitches. I'm glad they force you to use everyone, too many RPGs have it where you've got 3 guys leveled up and everyone else stagnates at level 2.

>> No.8500195

I love how it's completely obvious which posts the advertising guy made because everyone else is just telling him to get out.

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>>8500195
It's funny because I'm still here, and I've been talking about Sapphieros. Stop assuming things.

>> No.8500208

>Well now you're just being a nit-picking douche.
Disliking one of the selling points the game is just nit-picking?

They should really hire people that less retarded for advertising their games.

>> No.8500218

>>8500182
Why the fuck would you mention that?

I'd finally forgotten the fact that the translation will never be finished.

>> No.8500216

>>8499991
What does the pedestal in the dungeon do? I have no idea what the game expects me to do.

>> No.8500226

>>8500216
Tried just talking to it with your sword sheathed?
I'm assuming you're talking about that little, boring-looking one in some corner room that's kind of off-centre, mind you.

>> No.8500237

>>8500218
The only thing that's not finished is the dictionary. Who cares?

>> No.8500233

>>8500226
yeah, she just said something to the effect of "it's a pedestal". I've already explored everything else, so I'm kind of at a loss...

>> No.8500243

>>8500210

Should i download the 2.0 or the 1.07 version for this game that already got translated?
All google link kinda fuck up after all of this megaupload bullshit and i kinda late to the party.

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>>8500233
Oh, right... I think you have to go to that one wind tower, then ask the mayor about the key, he says it's lost, then tells you to go look in the caves instead. Then the pedestal will do something.
>>8500243
I'd say 2.0, personally.

>> No.8500265

>>8500257
I really don't like when games basically require you to talk to certain npcs.

>> No.8500260

>>8500237
Wait, what?

When the fuck did he finish the last act?

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>>8500046
>left: has some charm and humor. but stays away from HERPDERP MEME. good localization, a reason to enjoy characters and the game.
>right: no personality, soul-less. I couldn't give a fuck about these characters.

seriously gotta ask did someone from C-F destory your route to staying a shut in NEET or something because you are in every single thread trying to spread your completely wrong opinion on the original translation being better.

Or its like you honestly didn't play the original translation so you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

also. here's a wise hint for your stupid ass.
>game just comes out.
>people buy it.
>HEY THEY MIGHT WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.

Viral isn't real and you need to step back into reality.

>> No.8500273

>>8500182
How hard is this game, exactly? Can I take it easy and use my favorite characters or will I need to min max everything and grind like a motherfucker?

>> No.8500270

>>8500130
I may have found Chantelise. Won't know until if and when this torrent finishes. Still looking for Recettear.

>> No.8500271

>>8500261

Alright calm down and head on back to /v/

>> No.8500279

>>8500261

Now you sounds more like a ./v/tard.

Congratulations.

>> No.8500284

>>8500261
Go away CF defense/viral force. It's clear you're not from around here.

>> No.8500287

>>8500273

If you like sakuya then you will rip&tear everything anyways.

also you can reskill at any time and it's really fast to do, so that's not really a problem.

>> No.8500288

>>8500260
2009? What rock have you been under?

>>8500273
It's not difficult at all unless you're trying for 100% battle masteries or do stupid things like try to make Kohaku a tank. And you can't grind, or replay stages at all.

>> No.8500296

>>8500288
What the fuck? Really?

Fuck. FUCK.

>> No.8500294

>>8500261
Haha, oh wow.

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>>8500261
>achievement left the house
whoaaaaa dude sick burrrn

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8500307

It's been a while since i play this, i wonder if i can finish it...

>> No.8500304

>>8500279
>>8500284
>>8500279
>>8500294
>>8500295

same idiot and still no counter arguement. thank you for proving to me I am right.

>> No.8500305
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>>8500202
I loved GoS, but there's three things bad about it.

Stability. Only a few get to see the full ending without a crash at some point.

Replay value. I don't see much.

That bitch of a final boss.


anyway, dat OST.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJyYZJ-aLoo

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8500312

So much sage. I'm just gonna go back to playing this and/or toohoo and/or Petit and see if anyone's suggested some more stuff later, or if the for/against CF groups have killed each other by then so I can bypass their bitching.

>> No.8500321

>>8500312
yeah in agreement here. you'd think we could talk about the game but no... /jp/ is /v/2.0

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>>8500304

You're playing with the big dogs now buddy. Run back home to /v/.

>> No.8500329

>>8500123
They translated "yatta" as "yayifications".
That's the most obvious mistranslation I personally remember.

>> No.8500333

>>8500270
>>8500130
>>8500059
The chantelise translation was very literal and very machine. It was a M5 release with priority on the french version iirc.

>> No.8500334

>>8500329

They successfully viral marketed the game and made the money they wanted. Nobody would think twice about the fact that they were basically making most of the shit up.

>> No.8500341

>>8500323
you sure you didn't come from /v/ yourself?

>>8500152
This. jp projects never finish if they even do any anymore. they just whine and bitch about everything. they've become the leeches they've always wanted to be in real life in internet form. they honestly enjoy their shitposting circlejerk too even when they say they don't.

>> No.8500342

>>8500329
>mistranslation

It can't be helped, I'll have to use that!

>> No.8500343

>>8500334
That's because their market was mostly made up of the idiots who form the weeaboo image the rest of the world is familiar with.

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>>8500312
>so much sage
just how new can you be?

>> No.8500349

>>8500304
I'm not even arguing with your points, I don't really care. I was scrolling by, and saw a wall of greentext riddled with insults. You're posting style and childish anger just aren't welcomed here.

>> No.8500363

>>8500261
This post was so retarded it made me burst into laughter.

Now I'm not sure if this is some advertising fuckwit, some mentally challenged poster afraid of discussing video games on /v/ or both.

>> No.8500360

Wooo what was name og OP's game?

>> No.8500373

>>8500349

I am having too much fun with this idiot that I am starting to loose myself a bit here. The OP didn't know what he was getting into and for the most part by now he should have realized that his thread was doomed basically from the start.

CF are greedy and untalented bastards and as I have said earlier in this thread I wish that I had pirated Rec instead of buying it on Steam. I just wish the rest of the world realized this.

Now I will wait warmly for OP to misuse the quote function on me.

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>>8500349
only given what is recieved. every thread ever

"yeah C-F does such horrible translations"
"why?"

"lol get out"
no really. why not answer the god damn question. I've seen it asked in nearly every time this has come up from pretty much the day Reccetear came out. it really just sounds to me like /jp/ got upset their game got exposure and the number of people that liked it suddenly wasn't circlejerk small anymore.

picture related. I literally watched this change unfold over the months way back.

>> No.8500381

>>8500360
The Embodiment of Subterranean Desire, EOSD for short

>> No.8500382

Holy shit, I just found the old translation of Chantelise on my PC.

It was released in March 2010 apparently.

>> No.8500395

>>8500377
Everyone says they make shit up, you're just too retarded to read the posts.

>> No.8500392

I just checked and CF is still demanding $20 for Reccetear on Steam. Jesus christ.

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>>8500382
... you know where to upload it...

>> No.8500409

>>8500373
Well, the guy who posted >>8500261 isn't me, for the record. Just someone who got rather mad, as far as I can tell.

Myself I don't give a crap about what /jp/ thinks of CF. They can hate them all they want. I'm just looking for more neat doujin games, as I'm fairly ignorant of what's out there.

>> No.8500404

>>8500377
If you tell me how to get hired as bacterial advertiser I will reply positively to your thread.

>> No.8500406

http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/6100475

>> No.8500410

>>8500392
>demanding

It's called buy it during one of the dozens of steam sales.

>> No.8500411

I seriously hope Carpe Fulgar dies soon

>> No.8500412

Perhaps I could ask my Battle Moon Wars question in this thread.

I was wondering about the new game plus mode. I get the option of 0 to 10 bonus to enemies. What is a good choice for someone who had to save grind to get all masteries?

I don't want to play on too hard, and I don't want to end up having a too easy time. Going to run through Super now that I beat Real.

>> No.8500415

I don't want to sound like another viral marketer but some niggas are also localizing doyin geimus.

Here's one of them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqsW2GI9-8w

Dl'd like a month ago and I loved it even when I don't really like shooting games that much (other than Darius, Einhander or Jets'n'Guns).

>> No.8500417

>>8500305

The game crashes for me at every other boss cut scene...

In any case I hope I become competent enough in moon soon so I can play the sequel.

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>> No.8500418

>>8500410

Close. It's called pirating it.

>> No.8500420

>>8500415

http://www.nyu-media.com/

These guys.

>> No.8500431

>>8500418
You can do that too. CF doesn't care if you pirate. They figure if you like it enough you'll buy it eventually and if you never buy it you just never liked it enough.

>> No.8500441

>>8500415

I already played this game years ago and still got it on my HDD.

Well at least these guys wasn't a hypocrite who sell games full of loli and tben banned loli word on their forum just like those SA goons.

>> No.8500435

>hay guise get a load of this doujin game on steam
>doujin game on steam
>doujin
>on steam
>also check out my dubs

>> No.8500442

>>8500411
Why?
How do they harm you?

If you can play in moon a localization company shouldn't affect you in the slightest. If you can't play in moon, you were never going to play Recettear or FS in English anyway

>> No.8500445

>>8500431
I'd have bought it if CF weren't such fags.

>> No.8500470

>>8500445
How are they fags?

They localize in a way you don't like? Sounds like /a/ bitching about gg when it's just koda that's a problem. meanwhile people bitching about gg will use chihiro because who the fuck knows why

>> No.8500473 [DELETED] 

>>8500442

Not him but I will say this. They did a shitty job translating the game. An absolutely shitty job. We are talking about on 90's Square levels of horrible localization and for the record yes some of us can read it.

It's horrible translations like this that get most people to learn the fucking language.

>> No.8500478

As far as I can tell, the primary reason people detest Recettear and everything associated with it because it was viraled to death in /jp/.

>> No.8500481

>>8500377
"Stop! Hammerball!"

You see, it is funny because the girl has no idea that she's making an early 90s pop culture reference, but the audience knows about it, and knows that the girl can't know, so this creates a sort of amusing coincidence.

>> No.8500482

>>8500470
No clue what any of that meant.
>>>/a/

>> No.8500485

>>8500482
Exactly

>> No.8500487

>>8500470
We were bitching about gg way before the split.

>> No.8500488

>>8500473
hey, you're not deriding Woolsey there, aren't you. Taking a few liberties when translating games is mildly funny. Shoehorning memes is not. Woolsey did only the former, primarily because literal translation suck most the time.

>> No.8500489

>>8500470

>/a/
>/gg/

The fuck are you talking about?

>> No.8500494

>>8500409
Just go to the fangames section at the touhou wiki and download everything listed there.

>> No.8500496

Recettear translator bans some guy for asking how old Recette is, calling him "creepy" (never mind the fact that he's profiting over a game that pokes fun at date raping a little girl -- wait why isn't he banned from SA again?):

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1427586

>> No.8500501

>>8500478

This is a major reason as well.

>>8500442
Ugh, because the entire translation itself was inaccurate and rushed?

>> No.8500502

>/jp/
>defending woosley

What

>> No.8500507

>>8500496

>SpaceDrake

This is the guy that also shills on SA and a few retro forums as well. SA let it pass sadly but thankfully other forums have banned him for it.

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>>8500494
>Touhou
And where you can find everything else?

By the way, what was the name of that shoot em up with Tony Taka's artwork?

>> No.8500523

Why are comercial translators insisting in turning the doujin community into some pile of indie like shit without even feeling bad about it?

>> No.8500531

>>8500523
What's wrong with the indie game community? I only ask because I know absolutely nothing about it.

>> No.8500534

>>8500312
>>8500321
sageないのが流行ってんの?

>> No.8500536

>>8500417
There is a new patch out for GoS that makes the game much more stable. They'll be a new English version for that soon. Should help prevent crashes. The newest game from those creators is able to be translated, just waiting for them to stop patching it.

>> No.8500539

>>8500523
Well there's either pirate the game and download a fan translation. Import the game for $100 and download a fan translation, or buy the game with a localized release for $10 which the translator and creators see.

And the creators will see a hell of a lot more money from the $10 sales on steam than the $100 imports

>> No.8500547

>>8500536
It will never stop being patched. I bet they will be patching until they release an expansion, then patch some more.

They keep having contests promising us things, but we still haven't gotten any of it.

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>>8500531

Nothing really. Just lurking /v/ you sometimes spot people advertising commercial indie games (Minecraft, that King Arthur thing game, the project Zomboid, etc). Some devs love attention, but most authors don't say a thing about what they do.

>> No.8500556

Spacedrake, the reason we sage your threads and tell you to get out is because this is not a translation, it's a rewrite. Playing a game with a extremely basic level of Japanese (the kind you can get just from watching anime) and AGTH+ATLAS will give me a more accurate translation. Replacing "don't treat me like that!" with "I'll kick your shins!!!" is not ok. Please stop doing that.

>> No.8500572

>>8500519
Valhellio.

>> No.8500579

I like how everyone thinks this was a viral marketing thread when it was just a request to be told of more doujin games that are worth looking into.

>> No.8500608

Thanks for reminding me that I had youyou kengeki sitting around on my hard drive untouched, this has just made my day.
I haven't even seen gameplay demos until now
I just made sure to grab it out of the comiket dump threads.
because youmu is my love

gotta say it looks pretty fun
ready to receive, baby

>> No.8500639

>>8500531
This indie thing started with a bunch of smaller devs attempting to sell their games without a publisher and they were somewhat successful.

However this attracted a lot of terrible freeware developers trying to make a quick moneygrab. They flooded the indiemarket with flashgames and low quality games riddled with bugs.

Some of them actually hired people to advertise the games as much as possible in forums and imageboards and blamed the low quality of their games on the size of their company(which is funny because a lot of huge developers made excellent games even with a small team).

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>>8500572

Thanks.

The bad news are that I haven't found a dl link or a torrent of it yet.

>> No.8500663 [DELETED] 

>>8500442
I'm just an elitist asshole and I hate it when this /v/ and normal level trash is on /jp/.

>> No.8500684

>>8500663
at least you can be honest enough to admit your feelings are just illogical elitism. that's more respectable than most of your /jp/ peers.

>> No.8500696

>>8500684
it is what it is

>> No.8501013
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8501013

That only took a damned hour.

>> No.8501096

Is the crack for this out yet?

>> No.8501128

So, what was the latest version of Master Burner Climax?, tried 1.00 and runs awesome.

>> No.8501146
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8501146

>>8501013
I feel as if I've been ripped off somehow.
>>8501096
Not sure, but if I find it, any thread I mention it in in the future, I'll include a link to the crack just so people don't think I'm being viral.

>> No.8501148

>>8501096
There's a torrent on nyaa. Try that.

>> No.8501174

>>8501096

Wasn't their policy to not put any drm?

>> No.8501179

Wait what? The Fortune Summoners localization finished?

Weird, flew completely under the radar for me. I've been saving the Fortune Summoner's Gold pack so I can undub that shit. They did redub it right? I heard some talks about that.

>> No.8501201

If they translate everything word for word people will whine for stuff like 'people die when they get killed'.

If they localize/rewrite the text so it sounds like it's coming from someone who actually speaks english, like professional translator do, then people complain about stupid shit like Capitalism Ho!

Get over it, you fags. This isn't Shakespeare or some complex political intriguing you're reading, it's just a silly game with silly otaku humor and clichés everywhere. So what if they take some liberties and stuff gets lost in translation, as long as the experience is the same as the original it's not like you'd be missing much.

For the record I don't even care about the SA forums. I'm just defending translations in general. People treat the gorious nihongo like it's some sacred tome that can't be changed. It's a horribly repetitive language with very few words to choose from, you either make something sound natural in english or sound like it's from a fortune cookie. Either way, jp used to love this game before it was popular.

>> No.8501210

>>8501179
It's got japanese voices.
Cute ones. Just grunts of effort / cheers / comments when battle starts / etc though. Not like voiced conversations.

>> No.8501211

>>8501179
Yes and no.
They didn't "dub" it, instead they used the indie voices because the High profile voice actors were asking millions.

A common scenario in english to japanese localizations these days. Fucking producing companies and their royalties.

>> No.8501214

>>8501174
>Wasn't their policy to not put any drm?
Believe it or not the original doujin release had the DRM.
They didn't 'put it in' per se.

>> No.8501225

>>8501174
Steam version has the steam launch thing.
Gamersgate wont have any drm

>> No.8501229

It works. Don't know if it has a virus, I have no anti-virus.

http://rapidshare.com/files/1551860200/Fortune.Summoners.Secret.of.the.Elemental.Stone.v1.2.full-THE
TA.rar

>> No.8501258

>>8501229
>No wait
>800+ KB/s
Whoa, when did Rapidshit become tolerable?

Anyway, thanks. MSE didn't detect anything.

>> No.8501262

it always bother me in games with original audio when the character is saying ''gomenasai'' and the subs say something like ''jeez take it easy'', makes me think of all the stuff they must be making up for the rest of the game

>> No.8501344

>>8501201
>>coming from someone who actually speaks english

do you use phrases like "capitalism ho" and "yayifications" when you actually speak english? if you do, please go back to reddit or something

>> No.8501375

>>8501344
It doesn't sound totally out of place in context.
If I were a cute little loli saying Yayifications would actually make sense.

If they were translating something like Demons Souls then I'd agree with you.
In my opinion, it's still better than if they let an untranslated YATTA in.

>> No.8501394

>>8501375
Leaving untranslated words in leaves the door open to more of them. Next thing you know you'll have characters saying "Oh that was a very kawaii keikaku, onee-chan"

>> No.8501409

>>8501344

And that's really the only impression Recettear left. By providing the basis for hundreds of shitty image macros and catchphrases.

>> No.8501422

>>8501394
Exactly. I rather have them take liberties than have a TL NOTE explaining every joke, or have a -san rather just Mr.

You don't see that in official releases like Ar Tonelico, why should you in fan products.

>> No.8501437

>>8501422
The worst offender in this case, at least in my opinion, is the word 'nakama'. So many groups seem to leave it untranslated these days and assume that everyone knows what it means.

>> No.8501457

>>8501437
These translators can easily assume all the readers are within comfortable reach of a tool to look up the meaning and be right

>> No.8501465

>>8501422
Taking liberties is one thing. >>8500046 is something else entirely.

Why does it always have to be this all-or-nothing mentality when it comes to translations? Does it really always have to be either completely literal or a complete rewrite? A good translation would stay pretty close to the original script while still sounding natural.

>> No.8501472

>>8501465
>adding a joke to a jokeless line is bad

Unless they go 4kids mode and have machine gun puns every line it's not as bad as you seem to think it is.

And again the M5 release has a fucking terrible English script

>> No.8501470

>>8501465
>>8500046
Well...do we know the translation on the right is correct?
Or is that something we're all just assuming?

>> No.8501481

Shit that shouldn't be localized: names of things, like food, that don't have an English equivalent. Currency, own names of places and characters, and so on.
Shit that can be left not localized if it the context and audience is appropriate, and localizing it without preserving meaning behind it is impossible: honorifics.
Shit that should be localized: everything else.

>> No.8501483

>>8501465
I don't really see that as a rewrite.
"Gimme a little break" is effectively "Shush"
It just has an extra joke added in.
One that doesn't change or alter any of the script.

>> No.8501490
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8501490

Do any of you know what I'm supposed to do here?
Trying to collect the Topah Herbs for Sana, but the weight switch needs two people on it

>> No.8501498

>>8501490
Wrong cave. You're supposed to take the back door in the doctor's house, which leads to a herb cave.

Also I warn you now, the boss is a jackass. It spams several water spells including defense debuffs, heals, sleep, shield, and has kobold minions.

>> No.8501595

>>8500377
>picture related. I literally watched this change unfold over the months way back.
Did you see when Moot changed /jp/ into "/jp/ - Katawa Shoujo" for a week, crossboard linking it and having /jp/ spammed?

>> No.8501625

>>8501422
>You don't see that in official releases like Ar Tonelico, why should you in fan products.
Why? Because official releases like Ar Tonelico are selling to the masses, which means they have to account for three types of people that fan translators don't:

1. Dimwits
2. People who know absolutely nothing about Japanese language, culture, or otaku culture
3. People who don't give a flying fuck about what the original script said

Professional translators can't translate being too faithful to the script, because that means making it harder/less pleasant to read for these people, who are by far the majority. The masses can't be pained to read notes, they don't want to think to understand a joke from a different culture, they have little concern for fidelity so long as it's entertaining.

So long as you're not translating for the masses, I would vastly prefer a note or two(I probably won't need them) and more meaning-faithful translation.

On another note, I really hate intellectual property and licensing regarding translation. It's bullshit that, by law, you have to take the translation of whoever pays for it, especially when the most established companies localize the shit out of things because that's what sells.

>> No.8501633
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8501633

>>8501498
Thanks. The boss himself wasn't all that difficult though, all I had to do was lock him in a corner and spam attacks

>> No.8501694

>>8500046
>>8500059
>>8500130
I hate to restart this shitstorm, but that translation was NOT good. It was translated from Japanese to French to English by people who weren't really good with the first or the last. Whoever posted images has been very selective in what they've shown - there are plenty of places where it's utterly incomprehensible in English and clearly deficient even in French.

>> No.8501715

>>8501625
Personally, I prefer the localization route. Intent matters, not literal meaning. I recall a visual novel (can't remember which one) that changed a reference to a Japanese slapstick duo from the 50s to a Three Stooges allusion. It read better in English, made sense to people not versed in obscure (by Western standards) Japanese trivia, and carried the same meaning. Of course, this VN also came with a couple pages of translation notes where they explained exactly what they did.

>> No.8501833

>>8501694
The person who originally posted those images knows that and was just trying to use it to back up his argument of CF being bad translators.

The translation arguments in this thread are really minor nitpicks though. /jp/ hates this because Recettear brought the masses to /jp/ and this game likely will too, it's as simple as that.

>> No.8501945

>>8501229
I have the japanese game with voices, is there a way to 'patch/install' them on that english version?

>> No.8502085
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8502085

>>8501945

I'm interested too.

>> No.8502159

This game is brutal on normal with auto block off I love it though, finally some Challenge. I missed a memory photo though and fuck no am I going back to find it.

>> No.8502351
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8502351

Would you guys mind lending me a hand? I'm not sure how to open this and return to town.

>> No.8502399

I really wish this company wouldn't put my glorious nip games on steam for normals to get their germs on.

>> No.8502415

Since it's a doujin game thread.

Are the fan discs of Labyrinth of Touhou any good?
and are there any games on the RPG tab that are as good as Labyrinth?

>> No.8502539

>>8500645
I always intended to play this, is it good?

>> No.8502548

>>8502539
Aside from controls that are a little loose, yes.

>> No.8502719
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>> No.8502727

>>8502719
Yeah the translation is once again abhorrent.
I still bought it.

>> No.8502729

Viral maketing in /jp/?

It's like /v/ in here!
Are we gonna have general threads for a wide variety of Korean games(or games that koreans love) with lots of circlejerking and k-pop spam?

I look forward to /v.2/.

>> No.8502731

>>8502727
Me too. It isn't that bad, once or twice (Oh COWBELLS!) it is shitty. Pretty intrusive otherwise.

>> No.8502738

>>8502729
Not really viral marketing when it is one thread. I wouldn't have bougth the game if it wasn;t for these few threads though, so even though I agree that it is likey made by someone trying to get the game out, as long as it isn't like pic related, I could really care less. Especially if ti spawns discussions instead of wich 2hu wud u tenderly rape.

>> No.8502740
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8502740

>>8502738
>pic related

>> No.8502755

>>8501146
How did you get merrin's stuff, also from the capsule game? mururur...

>> No.8502775

I originally started the game on expert with autoblock off. I quickly turned auto guard on, and eventually I decided to switch the difficulty down to easy. It honestly didn't feel that different when I first made the change, but it feels easier now that I've got a full party now. Maybe I'll turn the difficulty back up. I wonder if actually using all those statboost candies instead of hoarding them in the item box would help noticeably.

Also that Arche AI is so very competent, more competent then whenever I play her. Also Stella is OP. I ponder how I got by without Seeker and Phoenix when I didn't have her.

Currently at the Hot Springs and have to find whoever the mayor gave the pamphlet with the ancient password on it to.

>> No.8502783

>>8502775
do it on normal with autoblock off, that is just enough challenge to where I only get wiped out occasionally while still feeling if I slack I will get destroyed.

Autoblock is for faggots.

>> No.8502792

>>8502729
stop being mad because it isn't about touhou

>> No.8502793
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8502793

Fuck these poisonous mushroom men, stop poisoning everybody. I'm going to need to buy a whole lot more venom away at this rate.

>>8502783
As far as I can tell so far after turning expert back on there's been nearly no difference in difficulty. Also turned off auto guard for you. I'm starting to wonder what the hell difficulty actually effects.

>> No.8502818
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8502818

Chaser, so cheap.

>> No.8502824
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8502824

Oh God, these Merkid recolors know Chaser.

>> No.8502864

>>8502824
Any deluxe voice acting yet?

>> No.8502893

What is the difference between Fortune Summon and Deluxe?
And can someone link me to a working English one?

>> No.8502903

>>8502893
Deluxe as professional nip voice acting. If you want it in english, you either have to buy it on steam or read the thread.

>> No.8502904

>>8502864
Don't think so.

>> No.8502906

>>8502903
has*

>> No.8502947
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8502947

Finally got to the Hot Springs scene.

That fucking fire dungeon was hellish. Fuck those dragon pups.

>> No.8502958

>>8502947
Oh they left it in? I thought they were going to censor the game?

>> No.8502971
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8502971

>>8502947
>>8502958

:|

>> No.8502970

>>8502958

It's not like you get to see some loli nips or that it even has any sexual undertones.

>> No.8502985

Something about the way the text is just rubs me the wrong way. It isn't bad, or even seeming to be terribly localized. It just seems not correct.

>> No.8502999

>>8502971
It's not terribly different there, guess it might bother some people.

>> No.8503001

>>8500329
>mistranslation
Seriously? Like... are you... I mean, SERIOUSLY?

>> No.8503007

>>8501146
I had been trying for fucking AGES to get that cunt of a sword (never managed...)

And you're telling me it's just a goddamn squeaky hammer anyway?!

FUCK YOU UNIVERSE

>> No.8503008

>>8503001
Just ignore him, it's obvious trolling because no one would care this much.

>> No.8503181
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8503181

FLAP FLAP FLAP
HEY COME HERE

>> No.8503188

>>8503181
mothbees are worse.

>> No.8503194
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8503194

>>8502947
>>8502971

>> No.8503231

>>8503194
Why does Stella have an arm growing from her crotch?

>> No.8503233

>>8503194
What was the point in this? It's right above you I can see it just fine.

>> No.8503250

I didn't see Koumajou, Megamari or RKS mentioned yet.

>> No.8503266

Is there a download for all the FS CGs and dialogue sprite things anywhere?

>> No.8503269

>>8502985

The font is terrible. Reminiscent of an old typewriter. Fixed width and too much space in between lines.

>> No.8503270

>>8503194

Here I thought the CF devs were just shitty translators but it seems they like butchering games up as well.

>> No.8503311
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8503311

>Hey, I just wanna go ahead and clarify something.

>We are a legitimate translation company that respects both the source material we work from and our audiences. We choose games to localize because we believe they are high in quality and deserving of success. We do NOT choose based on 'oh hey hot and smexy wittle girls', despite what some reprobates may say about Recettear and Fortune Summoners.

>I am aware there is a technical difference between 'lolicon' and pedophilia. I am aware one and the other are not the same. However, the attitudes expressed towards children by the former, frankly, horrify and disgust me. The sexual abuse of children is one of society's most horrifying perversions, and can do horrendous damage to the completely defenseless, ruining people's chances at life before they ever even begun.

>I am aware the term is used generally by otaku to refer to little girls, but anyone I see using the term 'lolis' for ANY reason will be asked to take a seven-day vacation from posting on our forums.

>That is all. I hope I never need to make this point again.

http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/57044630

>> No.8503316
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8503316

Are these games any good? Are they difficult?

>> No.8503324

>>8500312
>>8500321
You aren't even trying to hide that you aren't from here

>> No.8503325

>>8503316
I liked Suguri, I didn't like Acceleration of.

>> No.8503331

>>8503311
not buying any more CF games
it's pretty clear they only want normalfags as their userbase, well, have fun by yourselves then
i regret buying Recettear

>> No.8503339

>>8503311

Doing the games and source material justice by censoring them and translating them even worse than Square localizations in the 90's.

>> No.8503343

>>8503311

言葉狩り!

All goons deserve to die painfully. What are they even thinking, trying to localize niche Japanese games for a normalfag western fanbase?

>> No.8503344

>>8503343

If I remember right he and another SA user were denied from the real game industry so they decided to do something on their own. An admirable effort no doubt but too bad they absolutely suck at what they do.

>> No.8503349

So is it better or worse than reccetear?

I didn't like the game before reccetear but I liked reccetear alot.

>> No.8503352

I'm not offended by localization and I don't think adding a little flavor to the translation is a bad thing.
What he is saying about lolis however, is hypocrisy.
If they feel the need to censor a scene like
>>8503194
they are effectively sexualizing them.
If they wouldn't see the scene as lewd, they wouldn't need to censor it.
I'm probably going to throw a few bucks in their general direction when this is 75% off in a sale, so I'm just as bad.
Feel free to lash out at me

>> No.8503361

>>8503352

Will do. Why don't you just pirate it faggot? These cunts don't deserve a dime.

>> No.8503360

>>8503344
They didn't try. The translated recettear to try and get some relevant experience on theri CV's.

>> No.8503366

Just bought this game myself, am enjoying it quite well so far. It's pretty damn cute, would have preferred no censoring but I honestly don't care that much.

>> No.8503367

>>8503366

Thanks for the update man.

>> No.8503370

>>8503366
I wouldn't usually myself but it does set a precedent. They've said in the past that if they had to censor anything they just wouldn't bring the title over.

>> No.8503372

>>8501096
http://www.bitgamer.su/details.php?id=49544

Don't have a bitgamer account? Oh, I'm so sorry..

>> No.8503391

>>8503372

Cant look through the thread?
>>8501229
Oh, I'm so sorry..

>> No.8503397

>>8503311
>We are a legitimate translation company that respects both the source material we work from and our audiences.
Also, my name is Todd Howard.

>> No.8503425

>>8503352
And then plenty of well placed lawyers prosecute them for distributing loliporn and probably win, because the Judge will take one look at naked loli chest and conclude that the loli's naked chest is indeed naked.

And then CF will get 10 years of jail time.

Wait, that's what you're going for, isn't it? Because those are the options - don't publish, censor, or go to jail.

>> No.8503442

>>8503425

You must have worked on the localization becuase no one is this retarded.

>> No.8503443

>>8503425

They just don't want to lose e-cred with their fellow oversensitive politically correct dumbfucks over at SomethingAwful.

>> No.8503462

>>8503425
I guess you think Christopher Handley never went to jail for possessing sexualized drawings of little girls? Distribution will always get a harsher sentence than possession, and you absolutely cannot count on people not seeing naked lolis as naked lolis.

>> No.8503476

>>8503425
They are in a goddamn bath and absolutely nothing is visible.
Hell, if this is considered pornography I wonder why pools aren't basically FILLED with cum, considering the water in them isn't opaque.

>> No.8503486

>>8503462

There's nothing illegal about naked lolis faggot, the ONLY people who have gotten anything for possessing it were retards who pleaded guilty.

Not that they aren't covered anyway. Go back to SA, idiot.

>> No.8503495

>>8503476
Possessing pictures of actual naked kids in pools will get you jail time. Letting a cop catch you watching kids skinny dip will get you jail time. The law equates drawings and photos and real life, so you cannot use "it's a picture" as an excuse.

>> No.8503499

I was thinking about buying a couple of CF's games before I read this thread. Now I'm glad I didn't. What massive faggots.

>> No.8503510
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8503510

>>8503495

Oh no I'm going to jail!

>> No.8503508

>>8503495
1/10. You got me to reply, but I can't give you any more than that.

>> No.8503512 [DELETED] 

Anyone remember Kohime Masou?

Last I checked, Manga Gamer hasn't been v& for distributing that.

Pic related, it's a screenshot from the game featuring a 7 year-old half naked loli with visible cameltoe.

>> No.8503517

>>8503510
Reported to the FBI. I hope you get gang raped in the showers, you sick fuck.

>> No.8503530

>>8503512
Can not is not will not, dumbfuck. Just wait until someone wants to make a career on sending anime distributors to jail over shit conservative Christians find horribly offensive.

>> No.8503548

Sure is astroturf in here.

>> No.8503558

>>8503548
On both sides even - a bunch of "popular games suck" hipsters versus a lot of CF turfers. It's fun watching provide evidence that works against their stated points.

>> No.8503564

Sorry, but $15=15EUR for a game easily half as old as I am? I'll pass on that. If I wanted to play a good old game, I'd play UFO.

>> No.8503583

>>8503564
You're 3-14 years old? Get out of /jp/

>> No.8503638

>>8503564
20$=15€
Considering the current exchange rate, its a good deal
Only get mad at valve when its 1:1, please

>> No.8503643

>>8503638
Valve doesn't decide on the pricing of Steam games, publishers do.

>> No.8503822

>>8502824
>Playing as Stella instead of Arche
>Not killing her off at the very beginning so she doesn't waste Sana's MP
Did't really find the Red Merkids to be too annoying, those flying defense piercing dragon pups which deal 25 damage a hit are much harder to deal with

>> No.8504087

>>8503822
No way, the computer is terrible at using Stella - if you aren't using her just turn off all spells but heal and inferno.
In cpu mode enemies input read like hell and she never hits anything (playing on v.hard if it matters) . In player mode you can practically clear rooms with inferno, phoenix 5-6 flying mobs to death, or do Blade+Melee.
Sure if you get combo'd once you die, and her melee is not great on rooms not worth busting spells out for, but still.

I'll agree that spamming "Chaser" all day is pretty shit tier though.

>> No.8504095

where the fuck is the medicine for sana?

>> No.8504114

>>8504087
All of Stella's attacks are fire-based, and almost every single mob in that dungeon is fire resistant.
The MP necessary to keep her alive is a waste considering the mediocre damage she'll do.

Only playing Expert mode though

>> No.8504126

>>8503425
Get out CF devs.

>> No.8504141

>>8504126
sorry, but you are beyond retarded. law is law and the guy is right. don't like it? fight to get the law changed. otherwise don't expect a company to risk jail time for your perfect happiness.

>> No.8504179

>>8504141
Seriously get out CF devs.

>> No.8504202

>>8504179
you are so bad at this.

>> No.8504205

>>8504114
Speaking of that, those water segments before Sana gets mermaid robe are just dumb.
Was it really necessary to make it so that every solo situation for the character with the least hp, no melee defense moves, and hardly any offensive spells goes against mobs that have semi long range, massive resistance vs water, and a truckload load of hp?

Just shield and pray.

>> No.8504248
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8504248

Is the copy from rapidshare cracked?

>> No.8504305

>>8503194
Fuck this shit. Is there a patch to put back the uncensored scene back in?

>> No.8504306

>>8504205
Most of those places have a switch though, so I never really found it to be much of an issue.
The only place where it'd have been a problem is the Lake, but I grinded a little before that, so I already had Mermaid Robe

>> No.8504313

>>8504306
does it even need a patch? wouldn't think it'd be any harder than a simple image swap.

>> No.8504316

>>8503425
How about this. Everyone who believes the censorship you did was wrong should contact their bank to file a chargeback so they get their game for free.

>> No.8504349

>>8504316
or you could try to get the idiotic overkill loli law repealed so they wouldn't have to censor it. because it wasn't not really by their choice they had to.

>> No.8504395

>>8504349

Loli's not illegal you dumb fuck, christ.

>> No.8504403

>>8504395
in 'merrika its a grey area enough that its times less hassle for a company to just censor than try to skirt the lines.

>> No.8504423

>>8504403

Regardless that isn't why they decided on the censorship, you know and I know it.

There's far worst out there that outright sexualize children, there's anime that has been dubbed by far larger companies that do this. Sorry CF devs, no one's buying your shitty excuse.

>> No.8504428

>>8504349
>>8504403
Shut up Carpe dev.
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/PayPal#How_to_Get_Free_Items_on_eBay_With_PayPal:_Buyer.27s_Guide Credit card chargeback works the best if you used paypal, like me, to buy the game. You can fuck them up the ass. They'll also get the chargeback fees, so you'll get the game for free and the dev lose money to paypal.

>> No.8504429

>>8504423

>get out ""devs
>>/v/

>> No.8504438

http://www.mediafire.com/?pxh3jphkifh1x6x
DRM-less version, 100% trojan-free. Decided to upload it since CF decided to censor the game.

>> No.8504688

>>8504438
>100% trojan free

im sold!

>> No.8504689

>>8504438
derek, what do you say?

>> No.8504719

>>8504438
>>8504688
There is no drm on the original version. What is a drm-less version of a drm-less game. Actually drm?

>> No.8504918

That Master Ghost fight was infuriating. I only won because I got incredibly lucky with AI Arche stunlocking him into a corner constantly for the first 3 quarters of his health bar on like my 6-8th attempt. Then he managed to summon a ghost and escape and Sana died.

I should actually buy revival drinks in hindsight.

>> No.8504959

>>8503194
lol

>> No.8505289
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8505289

what does your scouter say about the cuteness level...

Also I heard form one of the adventure girls there is a magic dagger in the wind shrine in tonkiness? So I should go back there with stella right?

>> No.8505547

>>8505289
I'm assuming that's the unreachable chest above the shrine. Inside the place there's some treasure past the room with the unlit torches you need to light though.

I'm currently stuck on how to find the old headmaster. Should I go find a delicacy for that gourmet and if so which one?

>> No.8505659

>>8505547
I found a posion dagger inside the shrine, it has less attack then my lady's dagger, but causes posion.

What does attack do for stella? Does it effect her spells?

>> No.8505674

>>8505659
Attack affects her melee I assume. I'm not sure if it affects fire handling, however you're best off raising spirit since Stella's magic spells are her strongest point.

>> No.8505721

Ok so I'm on day 6. I've spoken to the mayor and got permission to wander around, I've looted all the chests in caves available to me. I can get to a room with 4 pushable blocks and water on either side where even making platforms in the water with the blocks I can't jump far enough to get to either path.

There was another cave past the wind tower I think with a weighted switch i couldn't do anything with alone, went there before talking to the mayor. Where exactly am I supposed to be going? I read something about a pedestal earlier in the thread but I haven't found anything like that. Just two pillar blocked paths, one with a crystal and one with a heart.

>> No.8505724
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8505724

Yes. I think that would be a good idea.

>> No.8505749
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8505749

Sana learned mirror image, AI Arche is even more rape now. Also randomly backtracked to Barness and it turned out I was supposed to go there since I finally fixed their problem. Got ultimate wheat which was made into ultimater bread at the baker then gave it to the gourmand who then pointed out the very obvious path between two rocks he was standing in front of.

>>8505721
You can make the jump on the right side if you push the blocks into the water, left you'll have to return with Sana later.

>> No.8505842
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8505842

After acquiring the pot fixing items the Wizard keeps behind locked gates, platforming puzzles, and monsters I now get this.

>> No.8505846

>>8505842
don't spoil anything, I'm having fun figureing everything out.

>> No.8505971
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8505971

The ai seems to know how to hold spells to keep floating over stuff.
Made this guy way easier since Arche would roll inside to dodge the breath while both of the casters would float over it.
It was an endurance fight for sure though and I got whacked the first time badly because of his drop. Shield II on Stella or Arche is lovely.

>> No.8506015
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8506015

Well this is disappointing. At least I can buy recall lamps from Arche's dad now.

>> No.8506039

>>8506015

Did you find the 'Calming Cocoa'?

No idea where that was supposed to be.

>> No.8506068

This Stella solo bit against enemies that can slap Arche around with her almost 200hp and twice as much defense is silly

>> No.8506084
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8506084

>>8506068
Her magic made it pretty easy honestly.

>>8506039
Yeah, don't remember where though. A lot of the things your dad starts requesting are actually pretty damn hidden and require backtracking. That cave that has a puzzle that requires three people being one of them. Another item is even gotten from an event. And the broken lamp I got off a ghost mage as a drop.

Does anybody know if there's anything to this cave by the way? I tried putting out and relighting all the torches, but that did nothing.

>> No.8506096

>>8503425

I just wanted to say that I have been waiting all day to tell you how stupid you are.

>> No.8506097

>>8506039
Pretty sure it's in that cave on the way to Barness? that has the weight which requires 2 people standing on it.

>> No.8506107

Bottom line they had no right to censor or change anything and I am baffled as to why people are white knighting CF.

>> No.8506117

>>8506107
>no right

They paid licensing fees.

>> No.8506120

>>8506117

Oh, that's right. If you have the money you can pretty much destroy everything good about a product because certain things aren't appealing to you.

>> No.8506126

>>8506120
Yup. Although I wouldn't call adding towels to a CG destroying everything good. I'm not playing FS to fap

>> No.8506127

>>8506097

I knew I forgot to go back to that place....

Also, Ice Dragon Pups can all go die. Freeze breath freezes you, and then the duration resets when it hits you again.

>> No.8506138

>>8506126

Not really worried about towels I'm more concerned about a over-concerned asshole who is in charge of localizing other peoples games.

>> No.8506144

>>8504719
It's the version from gamersgate, doesn't have drm shit there. It's censorship-free too apparently. Just kidding.

>> No.8506146

>>8506138
He's a fag about the word loli. What does that have to do with the game itself?

The guy who made the game is an asshole too, that's not stopping me from playing it.

>> No.8506155

>>8506146

>What does that have to do with the game itself?

The localizations suck as mentioned quite a few times in this thread.

>> No.8506161

>>8506155
I don't share that opinion.

The core story is the same whether the characters say Yatta! I did it! or Yayifications!

I guess it can't be helped

>> No.8506164

>>8506155
by one extremely obvious samefag, namely you. just because you repeat it over and over doesn't give your opinion more weight. you should try changing your writing style if you honestly want to try to convince people there's more than one of you with this opinion.

>> No.8506168

Smelly dumb peasant scum

>> No.8506176

>>8506164

You sound awfully whiny and annoying. We are done talking I think.

>> No.8506179

>>8506127
Since you've encountered ice dragon pups you're probably further than I am. I'm currently up to the Dark World School Dungeon.

I've been considering buying Arche a battlesword to replace her longsword but I keep getting the feeling I'll probably find a sword soon. I currently have 31k copper. Stella and Sana are fairly decent equipment wise now, but I noticed that ludicrously expensive magician's outfit for sell in Tonkiness that costs all my copper.

Basic question is am I going to find equipment to replace Arche's longsword, bronze armor, and leather cape anytime soon?

>> No.8506198

>>8506176
yes we are. your opinion is wrong, and has been wrong from the beginning. numerous people have told you that you are wrong. and given very sound arguments to which you don't even try to debate and instead put up a wall of illogical blind hate.

I've pretty much marked you off as a troll for awhile now because I really don't want to think someone can be this illogically stupid. and if you are a troll. go back to /v/. we try to be mature here (minus shitposters. which is outsiders as well).

>> No.8506210

>>8506179

Oh no, you're RIGHT where I am.

The game doesn't seem to give out equipment very much, but I just got a nice robe so this might be the place for it.

>> No.8506216

>>8506198

Yes, all of it was me. Clearly I care so much about this issue that I spent an entire weekday pretending to be different people.

>> No.8506220

Can you upgrade that Rusty sword?

I find it odd that it's stronger than the iron sword, but at least it was a free upgrade on my path to the 2800 CP sword

>> No.8506221

Buy stuff retards, if you ever have over 20k go fucking nuts. hoarding does nothing.

>> No.8506226

>>8506216
why not? it sounds just what the average unclean, NEET, virgin /jper/ would do.

>> No.8506231

>>8506221
I do, it's just everything good is expensive so I have no idea what to buy.

>> No.8506475
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8506475

Well just solved my sword buying conundrum. An Org sword dropped off an Org and I found the ore off a skeleton.

>> No.8506482

>>8506475
Crafting?

>> No.8506648

>>8506482
No, final Arche's dad request.

>> No.8506650
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8506650

Speaking of swords, I just got the 2nd crest. Will the weapon shop in Stella's town open up tomorrow or should I buy this? I'm not a grinder so I wont have this cash again for a while

>> No.8506688

>>8506650
It will be open the next time you go there though you'll have to go through a dungeon as Arche and Sana since the normal route requires Stella.

>> No.8506700

What does donating to the nun do?

>> No.8506702

>>8506688
Is there a weapon in the dungeon for Arche like the last one? If so I could use the money to upgrade Sana's armor instead

>> No.8506759

The controls in this game are driving me nuts.
Why is it so damn hard to make a melee combo using more than just a normal slash??

>> No.8506763

>>8506702
Don't think so. Actually maybe. I don't remember when I got the rusty sword. Next sword you can find after that is the org slayer, but that's a while off in the school field trip dungeon.

>> No.8506832
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8506832

I can't find the last pot fixing item. I have searched this entire tower several times. Is it in this chest? I can't get to it? What do I do, I have given up.

>> No.8506859

>>8506832
omfg I found it. wasn't even "in" the tower... HAHAHAHAHAHA...pos game

>> No.8506861

>>8506832
That room you're forced to drop down into after to go back down the tower. There's a doorway on the right side of a room that leads to a platforming puzzle which is turned on by the key.

You can get to that chest after breaking the seal on Arche's elemental stone and unlocking the ability to double and triple jump. Enjoy your block puzzle.

>> No.8506893

What am I supposed to do after getting all the crests and deciding on unsealing by finding old Headmaster? I can't find any new towers or anything.

He's nowhere to be seen to the north of Stella's hometown or capital city, in fact, there are no events near Wind Tower either, not that I've gone too deep in there to look for him yet. I also tried offering that fat gourmet guy who tries every food buns from volcano city, tarts from Stella's capital, dialogue never changes. I heard that some weird dude was in Stella's capital, but it was just a guard.

Am I missing something? What should I do?

>> No.8506929
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8506929

>>8506893
Barness.

I beat the game a couple of hours ago and scoured the bonus area of the final dungeon behind the passcoded door. I decided after doing that to backtrack and buy all the clothing items. I've gotten 5 dresses and hairdbands for Arche and 3 outfits and ribbons for Stella, however 5 smocks and 4 berets for Sana. The missing beret being blue. The blue smock is a darker blue than her default. I'm wondering if anybody's found a blue beret.

Also for statboost item collection. I have 9 power drops, 7 tough drops, 12 good child drops, 8 guardian drops, 8 stronggirl juices, and 12 mystery juices. I wonder if that's all of them.

So far there are only 4 things in this game I'm still curious as I think I've managed to backtrack everywhere already.

The nun in Chartreux, I wonder if there's anything special for giving her 100k copper.

The cliff that points nowhere west of Korat, I've gotten all the way to the right side of the area and there's nothing there.

That cave to the right of the Hot Springs dungeon with only 4 torches inside.

And this thing I found in the Crypt.

Anyone capable of shedding any light on my questions?

>> No.8506951

>>8506929
You can get a blue beret in a dresser in the first village. I had it almost at the start. Its probably in Sana's room

>> No.8506980

>>8506951
Scoured the entire town then started a new game and scoured the entire town again. The beret from Sana's room is green.

>> No.8506996

>>8506980
Really? Coulda sworn it was blue. Oh well

>> No.8507018

>>8506996
Could you tell me if you actually have a blue beret? So I can know if there actually is one and I missed it somewhere.

>> No.8507026

>>8507018
Nope. I do have blue socks though

>> No.8507069

>>8507018
no, you have them all, there's only a red, green, brown and orange one

>> No.8507201
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8507201

>>8506226
>>8506198
>>8506164
>>8506146
>>8506126
>>8506117

You don't sound like you are from around here.

>> No.8507209

>>8507201
you'd be right. I'd be from old /jp/ when there was some moderate intelligence here still and shitposting wasn't so rampant. if I am being told to get out of /jp/ that can only mean I doing things correctly. since those that inherited /jp/ are horrible scum.

>> No.8507263

>>8506929
Why did you save the power up items and not use them? I can't understand your autistic logic...

>> No.8507311

>>8507263
For saving purposes. How to optimally distribute them isn't an easy thing to figure out though I suppose all the pwoer drops I could just give to Arche. The rest of them I would have no idea how to distribute. That and I need to keep them tallied for when somebody finally figures out how many of them are in the game to see if I missed any.

>> No.8507324

>>8507311
just...give them to people...if the game is over when you use them....there isn't...wow.

>> No.8507326

>>8507209
You are obviously a troll. Shut up and stop trying to comfort CF with their shitty censorship.

>> No.8507337

>>8507324
Eh, there's definitely future stuff coming up. The game pretty much left a whole fucking bunch of hanging threads that seem like they'll be addressed in a sequel.

The voice commanding the dark witch at the end of the game, the sealed entrance to the volcano in Korat and the broken statue in the fire shrine, the missing stone tablet, Scotsholm and Abyssnia, Sana's and Stella's unseen fathers, that cliff that overlooks a whole bunch of nothing. There's a whole lot of stuff that needs to be addressed.


I'm guessing game clear data is definitely going to be transferrable in some way.

>> No.8507347
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8507347

>>8507337
1. expecting an indie game to have a sequel
2. expecting something as grandiose as save data transfers

>> No.8507350

>>8507347

Also, didn't the game already HAVE DLC? that we on steam didn't get because we are plebeians who speak english.

>> No.8507375

>>8507350
What was the DLC? I can't find any info on it.

>> No.8507428

>>8507209
I like how everyone tries to use the oldfag card as if there weren't retards around here at that time.

>> No.8507447

>>8507428
He's a newfag. I still remember the time when you could go and post licensed shit in /r/ without any problem. And nobody cared either. We just got invaded by gaiafags and the like.

>> No.8507732

>>8506929

I haven't gone through the extra dungeon yet but I have:

10 power drops
8 tough drops
12 good child drops
8 guardian drops
8 strongirl juices
11 mystery juices.

Looks like I missed a mystery juice and you missed a power and tough drop. This makes me wish I had actually kept track of where I found this stuff.

>> No.8507765

>>8506929

And >>8507732 again.

For giving the nun 100k you get a Silver Rosary. It's a very decent accessory that give 12 defense, 18 spirit, and 12 resist. I'm not sure that it's actually worth it, but you do get something.

>> No.8507776

>>8506759
Just press the direction button at the same time as the attack button.
It doesn't count holding the directional button.

>> No.8508765

>>8503316
>Are they difficult?
I wasn't capable of clearing stage 2 in the first game. I thought it was a clusterfuck of speed.

>> No.8508919

>>8507732
Found another strongirl juice to the west of the cliff with the flower field. So i now have 9. I found the last mystery juice in the bonus dungeon so it seems you've been more thorough than me.

>> No.8509222

And I just found another mystery juice in the Barness wind crest dungeon. It was behind some bushes I forgot to burn, I have 13 now.

>> No.8509311

Is there an in game map I'm missing somewhere? All of the dungeons generally look the same and there's rarely a way to tell if you're going the way to advance or the way to find some chests until you actually get there.

At least the crest doors are clearly different, but running around in caves gets confusing.

>> No.8509365
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8509365

While backtracking through every single area of the game it seems it's possible to trap yourself in this room if you push the blocks in front of the doorm escapable now since I have teleport, but early on this would be impossible to escape from without using the give up option.

I wonder why there are two blocks in here anyways.

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