/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_cCDFqLeTY

/jp/ did you do your reps today? It is very important that you don't forget your Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

Leave me alone mom.

[Anonymous No.]

That picture is nice, please don't ruin it.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't wanna.

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[Anonymous No.]

Did them and put down new words to learn between hours of vn reading

[Anonymous No.]

I'll never be able to dig through it. It's too late. I'll try again next year.

[Anonymous No.]

ive read nihongo whole day today

[Anonymous No.]

I finally started RTK yesterday if that means anything.

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>>8489189

Whatever you do.. do not stop. Most of us have had to restart 1-2 times probably.

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All Kanji for JLPT1>>RTK.

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>>8489189
Once you finish it, you are going to regret ever doing it.

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whats RTK?

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>>8489221
Remembering the Kanji by James Heisig.

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>>8489197
I'll keep that in mind anon.
>>8489217
That's fine. The masochistic side of me will love it then.

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>>8489151
> It is very important that you don't forget your Japanese.
Joke's on you, I don't even know Japanese.

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>>8489228

i see, i read japanese for busy people 1 and tanos.co.uk/jlpt/ this site

started last week, i learned hira and kata last year

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>>8489217
I stopped with RTK around 1600, I just could not find the motivation to finish at the time. Kanjidamage for me is harder to remember so I think I'll go back to rtk.

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The worst part is that it ticked over to the next day by the time I made this post.

[Anonymous No.]

Just had my dose of caffeine.
I'm getting to work in a few minutes.

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>>8489186
You can do it, anon! I had 400 Heisig and 1600 general Japanese cards when I came back after three weeks of hospital about a month ago. All it takes is a plugged off Internet cable, green tea/hot chocolate/coffee and your favourite music.

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>>8489270
You take a lot of time for each card you review. What do you put in them?

I'm up to 3643 cards in Anki now. Pretty much all are sentences or phrases with a new word or two. For words that just don't stick I sometimes add some redundancy.

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>>8489301

How long to get 10,000 reps?

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>>8489314

Oh nevermind. That's 30,000.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu_SPQLRACw&list=UUez-2shYlHQY3LfILBuDYqQ&index=8&feature
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[Anonymous No.]

Stopped learning C2K vocab to focus on grammar. (I arrived to a point I can read something but not understanding it properly)

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>>8489301
Well shit, you're right.

I'm the KO from the last thread. The sentences are read out once you show the card, and I usually listen to it completely. That easily adds a lot of time to the cards, especially as the sentences get longer and contain pauses. Other than that, a lot of my cards are still young cards (I'd estimate about 50% were <10 days today), so I'm not exactly able to breeze through them.

Or I really suck, but I'm not prepared to admit that just yet.

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Babby at Anki here.

I've learned my Japanese using books and actually writing it for some time now, but how does /jp/ use Anki?

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>>8489385
>Babby

Out.

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>>8489397

ok mom

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>>8489378
Oh, sure, if you tend to let the voices finish that explains it.

I did go through the first KO book as well. It's a great resource but one thing that bothered me were the sometimes overly long sentences. I like to keep my cards a little shorter and thus more SRS-friendly (minimum information principle). For example I'd split up yours after で and make two. Too much stuff means failing a card becomes more likely which ends up being more work. I had a python script to make this easy but with audio it's much more complicated.

Well anyway, that's just my experience, not trying to force you into anything.

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>>8489448

>I had a python script to make this easy but with audio it's much more complicated.

That sounds fun to make. You did it?

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>>8489448
I agree with you about the minimum information principle. I only test for the highlighted word(s) anyway. That's not to say I don't learn the other words. I do, but if I fail those, I pass it anyway.

As far as I'm concerned, KO is a vocab resource with sentences to help you understand them in context. You get bonus sentence reading practice along the way. It doesn't matter if I understood the grammar or the rest of the sentence(s) on the card.

And if I have too many reviews, I mute the audio and just read the phrase that contains the words I'm testing for and ignore the rest (the way you suggested to split them), although I only do that rarely.

Also, I actually like long sentences. It gives you practice at words you're supposed to already know. I know that's not conducive to efficiency, but it offers you even more of that delicious context for that word. It works well. Look at how many '4' answers I have for mature cards. They become way too easy because I see the vocab in them all the time throughout the deck.

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>>8489531
Yes, I did. It looked like this, nothing big or fancy but it worked.
Sadly I don't have it anymore.

>>8489534
I didn't really mean removing all context but cutting up sentences into more easily digestible pieces. Some redundancy is good because it reinforces what you have learned and makes sure you actually know the word, just as you said. I sometimes notice that I simply remember the whole sentence but can't read one of the rare words I only have once in my deck when on its own. This would be a case of not enough redundancy. But having words appear dozen times is a waste of time, too. That's why I usually remove parts I can already read when I see a sentence for the first time unless they make the meaning more clear. For example the sentence in the picture is still perfectly understandable if split into two and much shorter.

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>>8489590

Cool. You make me want to use linux again too. What distro..?

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>>8489650
That screenshot is from many years ago, I was using Arch back then. Now I use Gentoo. Both are nice if you're doing kind of doing it as a hobby/for fun.

For a normal person who doesn't want to fiddle around with command lines too much I'd probably recommend something like Mint or plain old Debian.

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Bump.

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>>8490150
Don't do this. Threads should only be bumped by contributing, on topic posts. It's bad enough when people post things like >>8489412 without sage.

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>>8490161

I wanted people who haven't had a chance to see the thread to have that chance.

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>>8490167
That's a nice gesture, but most people who care about looking for a decent thread browse past the first page.

Also, /jp/ is a slow board. It's not like the thread is going to get bumped off anytime soon. It'd be more understandable if you bumped the thread tomorrow but not after barely two hours which is a very short time frame around here.

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bamp

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>>8490185

Before you say something again:

>>8490319 isn't me.

[Anonymous No.]

Phew. All done for today.

[Anonymous No.]

Reps?

Shit nigga, I haven't even started learning yet.

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>>8491651

Start today. There is no tomorrow. Time will tell you that these are valuable words.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll start tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

I finished today's reps, could have done better but they are done. If I can keep this pace I'll have no new cards in two weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

Japanese the Manga Way seems make a hell of a lot more sense than Tae Kim for pre-sentence basic grammar.

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>>8489282

;_;

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/jp/ don't make me have to tell you again.

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>>8493659
Come say that to my face and not on the internet and see what'll happen to you.

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>>8494152

No. You aren't funny. Don't ever copy OP again.

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>>8493152

Why? Tae Kim was fine for me.

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>>8494407
I'm someone else, but I also didn't like it. The explanations are too long and often insufficient, the number of examples are extremely lacking, and the "style" is just plain annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

All done! AJATT's latest post inspired me.

>>8494500

Meh. I suppose whatever worked for you.

[‮ suomynonA‪‪‪‮‪‪‬‬‬‬‬ No.]

So, I figure I have so much time I may as well do something productive

That said, anyone have a recommendation for a good anki deck for kanji? Sentence usage would be nice too

or should I just use one of the default ones anki offers

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>>8496158

Make your own.

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>>8496158

Reach "RTK" on Anki's shared deck list. Also google KanjiDamage if you want to explore that option.

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>>8497211

Search*

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>>8496158
Make your own deck as you progress through kanjidamage. Using a premade deck is retarded.

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>>8497224

Why? The premade decks are fine. Plenty of us have used them.

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>>8497224
Or you can just save yourself time and use an existing deck, selectively enabling cards as you learn them.

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>>8497224
The one things that is really retarded is your statement.

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>>8498460
I find that the process of writing the cards myself helps me remember them.

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I hope everyone in this thread actually doing flash cards is seriously intent on mastering the language. It is an utter waste of time if you aren't. VNs aren't light novels, and if you don't want to really learn the kanji, grammar, and vocabulary, you're not going to be able to read them fluidly. Well, maybe nukige if you count them.

If you're serious, by all means continue. Or if your idea of a literary experience is one tied to a dictionary. But it's unfortunate because I imagine a lot of /jp/ers would actually be willing to produce things are wasting their time away when they're not really all that interested in Japanese. Flash cards every on top of learning new material, day in and day out, takes up a lot more time(and energy) than you might think over time. And then you have to keep up with it, even if you do finish.

Well, best of luck to you all. I hope some of you will consider whether this is a good idea seriously. Investing time in a language is the same as investing time in anything else; you'll never get it back.

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>>8498504
>VNs aren't light novels, and if you don't want to really learn the kanji, grammar, and vocabulary, you're not going to be able to read them fluidly.

But I don't want to read Japanese VNs, anon. I just want to be able to play untranslated video games.

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>>8498504

Just because you failed doesn't mean we do. That's just life for the loser.

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Ow yeh, done my reps for today and I'm gonna add 52 new kanji to wrap up this lesson.

[Anonymous No.]

Hi guys. I've been learning very lazily for more than 1 year and I feel like I've learned nothing. I still have problems with JLPT fucking N4.

So I've decided to practice daily with Anki. I added like 4 decks, but I end up feeling like I learned too little for a day. Should I keep it up like this? Or should I add more decks and/or click "review more" when I finish?

Thanks.

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>>8498504
>And then you have to keep up with it, even if you do finish.

If by "finish" you mean "learn the language", then no, you most certainly don't.

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>>8489378
Where do you get your spoken sentences from?
Would love to have something like that.

Also, how the fuck do you do furigana again? I've added maybe 150 cards in the last three days, and some of the example sentences I pulled from the dictionary are awful.

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>>8499024
That's Kanji Odyssey 2001 deck. Download those:
http://rapidshare.com/files/244704597/ko2001.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/244721599/ko2001.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/244707680/ko2001.part3.rar

The furigana is just there just because the whole Japanese sentence is on a picture.
For me Kanji Odyssey sentences are too long and there is that annoying pause in the audio before they start pronouncing, and also you can't easily copy the Japanese text. I use the Core 10000 deck with audio which I have found in Anki shared decks some time ago. Though I think, it's no longer there, unfortunately.

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>>8499024
Kanji Odyssey is a good source for sentence examples. It has audio as well.

Pic related.

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>>8499024
Oh, I've found the links for that Core 10000 deck, if anyone is interested, in this koohii forum thread:
http://forum.koohii.com/viewtopic.php?id=9120

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>>8499076
>>8499085
>>8499096
Thanks for the links, guys.

Have started and quite Heisig three or four times now, getting to 1400 or so.

Should I go ahead and do Heisig again, or try something else?

What's that Kanjidamage thing like? Seems like the same thing, except with swearing.

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>>8499169
Fuck, meant "quit" not "quite".

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>>8498972

You should be more specific as to what you're doing if you want help.

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>>8499380
I installed Anki and have everything with default values (20 new cards a day I think). I added JLPT 4 kanji and vocabulary and Core 1000/2000 vocab decks. I just wanted to know if you guys just do 20 new cards a day, or more; because I feel like I finish each review session too quick.

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>>8499386
If you can do more, do more. How is that even questionable?

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>>8499431
I don't know, I thought that it may be counter-productive to do too many a day. I don't study often so I still don't know my learning abilities well yet.

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>>8499386
> 20 new cards a day I think
I always set it to infinity, never understood why this feature even exists. If you're making your own decks, add as many cards as you like and study them. If you're using pre-made decks, you can suspend all cards first and then unsuspend as many as you like whenever you want to learn more.

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>>8499433
> I don't know, I thought that it may be counter-productive to do too many a day. I don't study often so I still don't know my learning abilities well yet.
Do you think the program will?

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>>8499436
I see, makes sense. I'll try it, thanks.

>>8499439
No, that's why I'm asking you for a reference. Why do you bother replying if you don't have an answer?

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>>8499460
> No, that's why I'm asking you for a reference. Why do you bother replying if you don't have an answer?
Because no one but yourself can give you the answer. It all depends on your memorization skills, the amount of time you intend to spend on your studies, what sort of information you are learning and whether you have already met this information before. (e.g. anime, games) Unsuspend cards one by one until you feel exhausted, then call it a day.

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>>8499433

Do you even understand what you're doing at all? You should study the kanji first with RTK. It seems like you just downloaded random decks that seemed okay.

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking hate that Korean woman in that video.

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>>8499835
She is chinese.

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>>8499854
dey arr rook same

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I just started learning hiragana today. What a pain. I got all the syllables and just repeating reading and identifying them over and over until I don't have to look at my notes to know how it's pronounced. Been writing it too, but don't know if I'm writing it well enough.

Hopefully end of next week I can read some of those children's books that have nothing but hiragana in it, and maybe katakana too.

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Reviewing took me 1 hour already and I'm still going to do 50 more kanji later.

When is a good time to start grammar/building vocabulary? I already tried getting into grammar but it's very slow because I know only a small amount of words so I only completed the basic grammar.

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>>8499169
Can someone who has experience with giving up during Heisig perhaps share their thoughts?

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>>8500281
> Have started and quite Heisig three or four times now, getting to 1400 or so.
> Can someone who has experience with giving up during Heisig perhaps share their thoughts?
This is going to be very obvious, but I'll say it nevertheless. Even if you stop learning new words, never stop reviewing what you have learned. If you don't give up on reviewing, you don't have to start all over again, you just start from the point where you stopped at before.

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>>8500328
It's been a year and a half, hence my question:
Start Heisig again, or try a different route?

Also, should I put the actually kanji info on the cards? Readings and such, as opposed to just the RTK1 info.

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>>8500281
I gave up with RTK1 once I got to around 500 Kanji, then picked it up 5 months later and finished it in around 2.5 months. When I gave up, though, for 5 months I wasn't learning any new ones, just halfheartedly reviewing the ones I learned. My recall rate is absolutely terrible. Around 60% at best. And that only happens when my brain is working. Some days my brain just doesn't work at all. From my experience: Heisig sucks. I felt like I wasted time with it, and I don't know much of the readings. Drop fucking Heisig before starting it again and go with KD or something else. I won't even bother doing RTK2 and 3 solely because it's ridiculously shitty. I'm just planning on going the AJATT way and hopefully naturally learning the readings by grinding sentences. But so far, it's proving to be extremely difficult. If you want to avoid this, switch to KD that teaches readings along with meanings, and gives good examples.

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>>8500378
> It's been a year and a half, hence my question:
> Start Heisig again, or try a different route?

It's been 1.5 years since I started Heisig as well and there were a few breaks in my studies (I'm incredibly slow and this alone should make you accept everything I say with a grain of salt), so far learned 1700 kanji. In my opinion, though, even with such slow learning the system Heisig suggests helps a lot.

> Also, should I put the actually kanji info on the cards? Readings and such, as opposed to just the RTK1 info.
I don't think you need to ever bother with readings. You'll learn them anyway as you learn actual words. Sometimes I find some key words Heisig gives too vague, though, and add some actual word examples to the comment section of the standard Heisig's deck.

[Anonymous No.]

I do my kanjis every night like a good little girl

[Anonymous No.]

I did my reviews today. I didn't do so well. Hey /jp/, do I do the reviews separately from the new cards or both at the same time?

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>>8500467
>>8500469
Two completely opposite opinions; that means I have to think about what I'm going to do. Balls.

Thanks for the responses anyhow.

[Anonymous No.]

Where the hell do I start!?

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>>8503211

[Anonymous No.]

Nearly done with reviewing, only around 80 or so left so I'll pause a bit. Only managed to learn 40 new kanji yesterday because I was too tired so I feel pretty shit for slacking off.

[Anonymous No.]

This motherfucker right here. Many pains were had.

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>>8503382
What the fuck is this anyway?

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>>8503211
Hiragana.

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>>8503918
Any trick for shi and tsu in katakana?

Still get caught on them when writing, but understand them when reading.

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>>8504001
シ ツ
ン ソ
No trick, you will get used to it with lots of practice.

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>>8504001
Just remember direction of those one or two 'eyes' (I have no idea how else to describe it) and how steep the 'curve is' Remember shi as wide and left and tsu as down and steep.

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>>8504025
Nah, I mean like:
They look kinda like faces to me, one looking down, the other up.
ツンデレact all pouty, so they look down. シ is the one left over.

However, when I asked a Japanese fella about shi and tsu, he was like, "You've got them backwards." I don't understand how, but I think it's in my stroke order or something, making my shi and tsu look like shit.

[Anonymous No.]

You weeaboo fags and your "reps" need to fuck off back to /gaia/ where all the other losers trying to learn Nipshit congregate and pick feces out of each others assholes.

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>>8504036
The direction you start the curve stroke from will be obvious to a native, if you try to draw tsu when starting from the bottom, they'll think it's a shi etc

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>>8504001

shi and n are more horizontal, tsu and so are more vertical

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>>8504041
How about you pick cheese of my dick, homo?

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>>8504068
>off* cba reposting.
eat a bag of dicks

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>>8504001
Just compare them with the hiragana shi and tsu.
し　シ
つ　ツ

You'll see that they share the same stroke directions.

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>>8504086
How have I never seen that before?

Thank you so much; seriously.

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>>8504086
You're a genius.

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>>8503910

http://kanji.koohii.com/

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>>8503213
Yeah, that's right.
>>8503918
Spoonfeed me on how.

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>>8504229
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/complete
Hiragana is first.

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>>8504232
Thank you.

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Should I focus on hiragana first and then worry about katakana once I got hiragana down pat? Hiragana->Katakana->Kanji? Vocabulary will come when it is time for Kanji?

Also are flash cards effective? I never bothered to use them in my academic career(including spanish) but I wonder if they might be useful for leaning japanese.

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>>8504732

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaced_repetition_system

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Would It be beneficial if I learned all the radicals be fore starting RTK? I have a deck for them.

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>>8506108

No point.

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/jp/ don't make me say it again

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>>8507423
Already done my reps, gonna start adding new kanji now. I have 96 of them in this lesson, planning to finish learning them over 2 days.

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>>8507423
I'll do it tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

We wouldn't have had to deal with those chicken squiggles if Japan had accepted the superiority of Latin alphabet.

Fuck dis noize.

[Anonymous No.]

I have memorized all of the hiragana and katakana characters but I am lost as to what I should do from here on. Sentence structure? Grammar? Vocabulary? Kanji?

[Anonymous No.]

So I realized doing them in the morning first-thing after waking up makes a rather large difference. My retention went way up.

[Anonymous No.]

Done bright and early. Feels good.

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>>8509803
All that.

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Bump.

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>>8511128

Ohhh, I had no idea there was a Tae Kim deck.

[Anonymous No.]

Started learning kanji 11 days ago and I'll probably reach 550 today.

My reviews take a LOT longer than learning new kanji because I set the initial button values to only 6/12/24 hours instead of days. Is this too often or should I continue this way? One the one side I'm afraid of forgetting kanji too easily but on the other side I also don't want to be buried under reviews if I continue this pace.

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>>8512447

If you take a break for any length of time I doubt you'll retain it all at the rate you're going.

[Anonymous No.]

I finally started a couple days ago, and I sorta kinda know about twenty five percent of the hiragana. How far should I have progressed by now?

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>>8512489

You should know all your kana in a few weeks at most.

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>>8512485
Speaking of retaining memories I go through my flash cards every two hours. Should I bump it down to every hour or should I ease off? I have been going at it 8 times a day for a week now. Not the same guy you're responding to btw.

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>>8512447
Reviewing so often is a waste of time. It can actually lead to weaker memories. You should aim for around 90% retention for mature cards (= interval over a month) for the best result/effort ratio. Actually, the algorithm used by Anki will adjust the scheduling to your performance automatically to make sure of this.

New/failed cards are already shown just the next day when answered correct. That's enough. It's not expected of you to remember everything perfectly the first time you see something.

[Anonymous No.]

Just did mine! Only 3017 new cards to go!

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>>8512499
You can learn the kana in an afternoon with heisig

[Anonymous No.]

How essential is katakana? Why is it necessary to relearn an alphabet? I intend on learning it as I imagine lots of sci-fi and modern literature uses it but I am curious as to how prevalent it is.

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>>8512410
The one problem I have with Tae Kim's stuff is that a lot of his English translations for sentences are so stiff and unnatural-sounding.

From his website:
アリスは食べる。
As for Alice, eat.

Yes, that is literally what it means, but nobody actually talks like that. It might be better if he included a second, less-literal sentence on top of that, at least (Alice is going to eat).

That said, I did find his lessons good overall for teaching grammar, even if I might never see some of the expressions (e.g. や否や) outside of his lessons.

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>>8515877
> How essential are capital letters? Why is it necessary to relearn an alphabet? I intend on learning it as I imagine lots of sci-fi and modern literature use them in proper nouns and abbreviations, but I am curious as to how prevalent it is.

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>>8515877

Katakana is pretty damn important especially if you're going to be playing games, Japs use a lot of borrowed words.

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>>8515906
> (e.g. や否や)
I think I found that only in eroge heroines speaking with a really archaic speech style, and one you know that kanji the grammar meaning was pretty dead on anyways

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>>8515906
I think he uses that style only to show what exactly some grammatical point means when he introduces it. He starts translating as usual later on.
As I recall he has a few mistakes in nuances (～のじゃない、ばかり、etc), and his grammar guide is by no means complete, it omits lots of things. It's useful for getting acquainted with grammar and for quick checks of the things you see for the first time.

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>>8515906
>nobody actually talks like that
It's a grammar guide, so why is this important?

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I'm curious about VN translations. Whenever a heroine speaks like pic related, do translators use Elizabeth English to capture the effect?

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>>8516442
I've seen it happen. Like the translator will use words like "doest" and "thou" and such.

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>>8516442
I think they should, but rarely do. I think Beatrice from umineko used warawa and shit, and they translated it with regular English anyways, felt like it took away a sizeable chunk of her characterization.

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>>8516442
>>8516501

Elizabeth English is just butt ugly, and distasteful to read.

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>>8516442
Is there a tag on pixiv with that particular art style?

[Anonymous No.]

Done with my reviews today. Looks like I'm gonna miss the deadline of March 1st I set for myself to finish this book. Oh well, I don't give a fuck.

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>>8516482
What I see sometimes is the translator using Elizabethan English incorrectly. I then don't know whether this means that the original Japanese was ungrammatical archaic Japanese, or that the translator is a doofus.

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>>8494344
i dare you to say that to my face fucker not online and see what happens

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>>8516573
well, whatever english equivalent for archaic speech you have then

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks for reminding. I skipped it for a while and found it has 270 sentences to check. I decreased it to 200 for now.

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks for encouraging me to learn japanese, /jp/. I have been at it for a week but now japanese text looks like a an actual language capable of being understood rather than a wall of squiggles it used to be for me. My only regret in life is I didn't do it sooner.

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>>8521473
Same here. I hope 25 is not an old age to be learning moonspeak. Granted, I'd had a lot of exposure to it since high school but I've never approached it formally until now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8521956

Age is largely irrelevant. It's just one of the most common excuses for people with low willpower.

[Anonymous No.]

Do I really have to learn all kanji before starting vocabulary and grammar?

I hear a lot of different opinions on this. Some claim I should start after I finish them all, some claim I should start halfway through and some claim I should start right after I know the kana but nobody ever bothers to explain why. Any input on this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522093
No, you do not need to but you might get frustrated when you see a kanji you don't know.

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't done my reps in quite some time, and I am in the mood to get started studying again.

The problem is seeing that I have 2.5k reviews to do pretty much kills my motivation.

I know I should just work through them, but I feel like I would lose motivation and stop studying again.

So I think I will just mark everything as good and then deal with them as they come back up. Will this just screw me over?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522093
When you learn a vocabulary word, also learn the kanji that goes along with it. In my opinion, if you learn the meaning, reading, and kanji of a vocab word all at one time, it is easier to group them in a mental set.

Example:
I see わたし as a vocab word in my lesson.
I learn that わたし means "I" or "me"
I learn that わたし is written as 私
As I am doing practice exercises, when I write 私, I say わたし out loud as reinforcement.

This is all how I do things, and honestly, you will just have to find what works for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522163
I just finished learning all of the katakana and hiragana characters and the nuances of using them. I was going to go onto sentence structure and grammar. I was under the impression that vocabulary and kanji were one in the same but am I wrong on that assumption?

Also how many hours a day should I focus on learning? I am doing well using 2 hours a day but I am wondering if it would be a good idea to spend 4 hours a day on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522296
You're right in a way. A lot of different Kanji go together to make different words though, and the pronunciations are all over the place, not mentioning the way hiragana can be attached to some kanji and conjugated.

>>8522163
Do it this guys way, if you really want to do them at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522093
No. In fact that would be the wrong way to go about it. You should be studying all three at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

do rtk lite
do core 2k
download light novels in txt format

use anki with yomichan plugin
open japanese text file with yomichan
edict glossary for highlighted words (uses mecab)
add with a click
use one deck for words with new kanji (or new reading)
use another deck for vocabulary in general
profit

first deck is for reviewing kanji and readings with a minimum size deck (non-rtk kanji deck with japanese keywords with real/strong context)

fuck punctuation

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522296
Not all words are written in kanji. An excellent example is ありがとう (arigatou - thank you).

Vocabulary is simply a new word. Usually that word will have kanji to go along with it, but not necessarily.

WARNING: I am not a teacher, so my explanation may confuse you further. Do not let my nonsense discourage you with its "complicatedness". Skip to below the line of dashes.
A word can have multiple kanji, so learning only single kanji meanings can be a waste of time as a beginner. Example:
You learn 日 (day/sun)
You learn 本 (book)
When reading a sentence, you see them put together as 日本 (にほん). It doesn't mean sunbook, it means Japan.

So as you are going through your lessons, and you come across "にほん = Japan", then you also learn that にほん is written as 日本.
In your mind you form this mental set:
>Japan = にほん = 日本
------------------------------------------
>How many hours a day should I focus on learning?
As many as you feel is COMFORTABLE!
You should set a routine, so that you study every weekday for an hour before school starts (that's what I do, but I'm in high school, so it may not be applicable to you). Stick with this routine, but do not make it a ridiculously long session.
If you study for too long too often, you will begin to see learning Japanese as a chore, and you will quit. That is called burning yourself out.
Since I only study for one hour a day, even though I feel like I could study for hours on end, I stop there and just look forward to learning more the next day. Having Japanese as something to look forward to and get excited about the next day is a must. Staying motivated is key.

tl;dr Only study for however long you can stay interested and focused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522520
Too much effort, upload decks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522543
Using rikaikun to mouse-over ありがとう shows that there is actually kanji for it.
Why wasn't I told this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522542
oh for fuck sake this is the custom made way of learning shit you're interested in.

but here,

my not so overzealous deck made of zero no tsukaima 2nd and 3rd novels' kanji:
http://www.mediafire.com/?h5npdibsic2txt7

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522582
Thankyou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522598
it will prove to be useless for you however unless you're going to read znt. and if you're going to do it, you should use the longer method. or at least activate the entries in the deck when you encounter them as you read znt.

znt uses, while not so difficult, some old grammar though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522093
There is no superior method. You will end up spending about the same amount of time on it anyway, I reckon. Do what you think would work best for you. I myself tore through kanji and after that started vocab. If you feel that is overwhelming or don''t have the patience you could learn vocab after kana and learn them with their kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8512447
>Started learning kanji 11 days ago and I'll probably reach 550 today

There's no fucking way you will ever remember that much shit. I'm sorry, but you are going to forget all of that. Slow the fuck down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522739
You can actually learn that, but here is what happens to 99% of people who try:
They get going, maybe even finish.
By the end the SRS is making them do 200->500 cards a day for about a month after.
They drop it because they are 'finished' with the book and forget everything.

Ideally you don't blaze through, you just devote 2-3 hours of study a day, and always do your SRS first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522739

That's ~50 a day. That's fairly normal for RTK. On the higher end, but still fairly normal.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm hitting a road block in my Japanese learning right now, but considering I'm still very new at this I'm assuming this is simply one of MANY that I'm going to encounter over the next few years.

I have 237 Kanji under my belt, and all of the Katakana and Hiragana memorized. Since starting on grammar though...it seems like I've been slowing down substantially. I'm not even really sure where to begin on how to practice forming sentences. So far I've just been browsing over Tae Kim and Genki I but in the past 3 days of doing this, I feel like I'm making zero progress. Then on top of that, my Kanji is starting to get overwhelming. I thought I would take it easy and stick with 20 new words a day, but I've been ending up learning 20 new words ontop of 80+ reviews, and these past couple of days I've been doing terribly with my Kanji reviews. Should I cut back to maybe 10 or 15 Kanji per day instead so I don't end up drowning in it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8523151

Kana -> RTK/Kanji Damage -> Sentences

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522574
Because it's pretty much never written in kanji. I've only seen it once or twice. Lots of other words normally written in hiragana are the same way: they have kanji but no one ever writes them that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522543
If that is the case then I am going to learn kanji and vocabulary at the same time along with making sure I know how they sound. I plan on doing 10 a day starting after I learn sentence structure and grammar.
On the time front I am really enjoying myself when learning japanese so I will bump it up to 4-6 hours a day. I heard that you form better memories with short, daily repetition but if it won't hurt my chance of memorizing things I will study more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8523224

You have the right idea, but a bit sloppy and unrefined. Use this chart:

http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/about/overview-page

[Anonymous No.]

>>8523247
So start Kanji right this second? Great, sounds like fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522543
Nihon is an ephemism for double penetration (two shafts). Stop spreading lies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522804
Stop discouraging people from going faster. It's just silly.

If you're learning kanji to learn Japanese, you're going to follow it with actually using them to read and write/type. And then there's no way you'll forget them (aside from maybe the rarely-used ones which you lose little by forgetting anyway). And if you don't, then you'll just forget them no matter the pace, not to mention you probably shouldn't be doing it anyway, since it's pointless.

>>8523185
It's actually not uncommon at all (60m+ hits on google, go figure). As a general rule, if it has a kanji spelling, people are going to use it (and vice versa). IMEs are a wonderful thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8523609
But the kana ありがとう version gave me 810 million results...

[Anonymous No.]

Play a VN. Know most of the kanji. Great.

Play a different VN. Drowning in new words.

Fuck you vocabulary. Also, fuck you grammar. Every time I see a god damn particle its used in the same way a different particle is used in another place. Also, learning particles isnt fun when half the god damn time its excluded.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have any grammar suggestions besides Tae Kim? I'm actually surprised these threads focus so much on kanji when grammar is the bigger roadblock when trying to read stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8523718
Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar & Dictionary of Intermediate Japanese Grammar

Do not formally study grammar. Look it up when you come across it instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8523727

I don't agree with you and those dictionary type grammar books aren't what I'm looking for. Something like Tae Kim and Genki, I just need more resources and maybe something more comprehensive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522739
Same guy who posted the post you quoted here.

50 is not that much. I just split them into groups of 10, 20 or 25 kanji(depending on my mood) and then learn them. This really isn't much, especially if you have time all day.

[Anonymous No.]

500 Kanji. Easy as cake.
2000 Kanji. Bring it on.
4000 Kanji. Are you even trying?

200 ways to express "unite", those god damn compound verbs, thousands of words that "no one uses" but appear in everything you try to read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8524025
That's why you learn the readings of kanji in context and not in isolation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8524104
>implying the reading has anything to do with the meaning

[Anonymous No.]

>>8524138
>implying it doesn't
>上手
>じょうず
>うわて
>かみて

[Anonymous No.]

I am about to buy RTK, am I doing it wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8524138

Holy shit what the fuck are you guys doing here, shouldn't you be on the learn j/a/panese thread?

Anyway, for something as arbitrary as

人気の無い公園 or 人気の無い公園

furigana would be used. Otherwise, you should be able to get the meaning without furigana for more obvious contexts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8525535

Yes, download anki and download the RTK decks, or forget about them and download the kanji damage deck, you can do this through the anki program.

[Anonymous No.]

Bloody hell, looking up the proper Kanji for all the vocab I've done and putting it all into anki is truly a grueling task. Bumping for moral support and to keep this thread alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8527253
Main reason why I stopped learning them in context and just decided to grind RTK. Good luck to you though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8527253
>looking up the proper Kanji for all the vocab I've done

...I really fail to see how looking up the kanji can be a problem. Especially if you supposedly used them already. What is it exactly that you have trouble with?

[Anonymous No.]

Do yah reps bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8528647

I know the words, I just can't read them all if they're written in kanji, so I'm doing this as a means to associate them with the words rather than go through the meanings of individual kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8529336
Be careful. You might end up having a lot of trouble when they all start becoming similar. Are you practicing how to write them or only just "how they look"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8529336
On the contrary it troubles me when words are not written in kanji (for those who can be).
But adding everything in Anki is too much if you ask me. I'd think twice whether it is really necessary or not before doing so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8529336
But in this case looking them up is the easiest thing ever, you just use a dictionary and search for the word by its pronunciation.

And you're going to have to "go through the meanings of individual kanji" anyway, since they're words too. Better sooner than later.

[Anonymous No.]

I am wondering if I should take some japanese classes at the community college. I know hiragana and katakana perfectly but I only know a few things about grammar and only 100 kanji. I won't go if it is full of pocky pocky kawaii desu ne~ xD types but there are only entry level classes...

[Anonymous No.]

>>8531109
>only entry level classes

... Don't go, unless your goal is to meet new people. You are waaaaaay above entry level classes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8531123
What? I was assuming that an entry level course would at least get into kanji. Katakana and hiragana only take a few days to learn if you are dedicated, a few weeks if you slack off. What level of courses would I be aiming for at a 4 year university?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8531182
College classes are tailored to the idiots who would freak out if they were expected to actually understand kanji.
I recall reading stories where they didn't even teach using kanji.
Even those 10-a-day heisig people are better off than this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8531220
I just thought some guy teaching 19 year old freshmen romaji on a dry erase board and two weeks into the course they learn to spell their name in katakana. I am done with that fantasy, my goal right now is to be able to read Robotics;Notes when it is released.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8531109
I took 4 semesters of Japanese when I was in college. Looking back, I wish I hadn't. The only good thing about the classes was that we studied nearly all of the major grammar points, i.e. all of the verb conjugations, adjectives and their conjugations, and so on. However, the amount of vocabulary and kanji we learned was a joke.

In 4 semesters, we learned maybe 200-300 kanji, which is funny, because we had to learn hiragana and katakana in the span of a week or two, but then only had to learn about 10 kanji a week or something. As for vocabulary, we probably learned somewhere around 500-1000 words. Not too bad, but not enough to really amount to anything. In the end, I had a good grasp of grammar, but because of my lack of vocab and kanji knowledge, I couldn't really read anything in Japanese. Plus, since they used materials targeted to learners, I had no chance of being able to understand actual spoken Japanese if spoken at a normal speed.

Unless you have a problem motivating yourself and having to earn grades would help you, self-study is the better option for Japanese. While I don't always agree with his methods, ajatt.com is a much better Japanese teacher than the ones I had at university (and they were native Japanese people).

tl;dr - You can learn faster on your own than you can in college classes, unless you have motivation/self-discipline problems.

[Anonymous No.]

I find classes to be good for grammar and bad for anything else. I guess it is also helpful if they force you to speak, because you do not get to speak the language often outside of classes.

[≦(￣^￣)≧ !!x+mnmrU0sW+ No.]

>>8531322
I self-studied Japanese and am now studying Chinese in college. I've come to basically the same conclusion you have. We spend a ton of time on grammar, but not nearly enough on acquiring vocabulary (though Chinese isn't as bad as Japanese since there are less weeaboos and more asians). I'm supplementing my courses with self-study and it's working out pretty well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8531322
Whether your class time could have been better spent if you hadn't taken them is another question, but the fact that the classes didn't teach you enough vocabulary is not really that big of a deal, because vocabulary and kanji knowledge is something you can easily supplement on your own.

Especially if you really want to learn to communicate fully in Japanese, a course is helpful if only because it gives you access to a professor. Granted, everything you can do in a course may be replaceable with proper tools(even things like doing videos on Nicovideo to have people comment on your pronounciation), but it's going to be exceedingly difficult to check your accuracy on certain things without a professor.

I will say that I have my doubts about whether a course without a native Japanese professor is worth it, though. Half of the reason I'm saying this is because they know for sure what sounds natural(by definition; they're native Japanese) while a non-Japanese native professor may not necessarily be right even if he is grammatically correct. Yes, I know this is biased, but we're talking 100% vs probability here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8531348
For speaking... Doesn't Rosetta Stone rate your spoken japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8531384
Yeah, but the voice recognition is kind of stupid and a pain in the ass to work with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8531368
You make a good point, but at least in the classes I took, things didn't turn out that way. Yes, the professors were native Japanese people, but they rarely corrected us. Since many people are shy or embarrassed to speak in front of a class, my professors mostly focused on just getting us to speak, and ignored our pronunciation unless it was really bad. To give an example, I think I was corrected once in 4 semesters. Now, I'd like to believe that I'm some genius who could pronounce Japanese really well despite being a beginner, but I know that wasn't the case.

This is just a guess on my part, but another issue I see is that the professors get used to teaching beginners over time, and learn to understand what they're saying despite poor pronunciation. If I went to Japan right now and started speaking to some old lady in the countryside, she would probably not understand a word I am saying, but if I went to speak to a Japanese professor in America, they would be used to poor pronunciation and might be able to understand me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8531411
Yeah, there are a lot of factors. It's a big risk taking a course if you don't need the credit or otherwise can't afford it. But a lecture with a good professor is most likely worth your time.

If you're not really outgoing enough to pressure the teacher to give you corrections and extra guidance, then yeah, I'd agree it's not really worth it.

In response to your latter concern, another factor to consider is that you'll also have access to tutors, most likely including whatever Japanese foreign exchange students are there. If you're social enough to go and talk to them, they can be an advantage as well on the pronounciation and "natural speech" factor.

Well, whatever the case, I'm going to agree that self study may be more effective if you are motivated/energetic enough to constantly study but aren't really willing to interact with the professor or available tutors. If either of those are not true for you, I would say a course is worth it if if you can afford it. Some of you might want to consider trying to test out of early courses, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8531455
Slightly OCD correction:
I'm not really addressing(/patronizing) you in particular with my statements there, even if it came off that way. When I say "you" I meant anyone here considering how they should study Japanese, if it wasn't clear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8531455
Guy who brought up college courses, I am plenty motivated to learn it myself so I will stay the course. I mainly brought it up as a possible way for me to polish up my japanese but from the look of things japanese 101 won't help very much.

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry /jp/, I've been slacking the past few days, so I put in a little more effort today.

I'm literally putting in almost the least amount of effort possible and still wind up slacking off. I may be here forever.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been looking into learning japanese for a while and this thread gave me lots of advice! Thanks alot guys! I'm looking forward to giving it a go

[Anonymous No.]

Hopefully, such threads will come to mean more visual novel translators for us monolingual folk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8531663
Why so few mature cards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8531411
>Now, I'd like to believe that I'm some genius who could pronounce Japanese really well

Now, I'm not talking from personal experience here (I'm repeating opinions of people who did, though), but I was under impression Japanese pronunciation is so simple and straightforward and the phonemes so far apart each other that it's basically impossible to mispronounce it unless you try really hard. They most probably understood you perfectly, and that was all that mattered, you can't really expect lessons on native-level pitch accent in beginner classes.

>>8531946
Given how most of the people here are just starting with basics, and how long it takes to be actually fluent in any language, I'd say you wouldn't want any translators out of this bunch in the foreseeable future.

Yes, I am aware some people with my level of knowledge are actually attempting to "translate" things (well, not VNs, I guess, but I have seen manga where the scanlator understood even less than me, and then there's Danbooru...), I just personally don't approve.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember to eroge everyday along with your reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>8532171
>it's basically impossible to mispronounce

It's pretty straightforward, yes, but also very prone to mistakes due to the limited amount of syllables.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8531956
Extremely gratuitous use of the 'again' + 'hard' buttons. Deck statistics say I've got 517 total mature against 657 total young. Although it also says I've 118 mature attempts against 9153 young attempts...

[Anonymous No.]

>>8532188
I, for the life of me, cannot pronounce りょう or こう.

>>8532171
I am amazed how easy it is to read manga now, I imagine they wouldn't be much trouble to inaccurately TL either. I guess a TLC is important for a scanlation group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8532235
I can't get りょう either, but I don't have problems with anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is the AJATT method such a load of bullshit?

[Anonymous No.]

Darn, I just realized I didn't do mine today, or yesterday. Good thing there's always tomorrow!

[Anonymous No.]

One day I will do my reps, but not today.

[Anonymous No.]

┐(￣ε￣ )┌

[Anonymous No.]

>>8532244

I can't understand why it keeps coming up here. Did no one here ever think of immersion as a tactic for learning a language until some guy pulled a snappy acronym and a website out his ass?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8532296
Anyone with any common sense can come up with the immersion tactic, but not everyone would neglect actual study as much as he does. Do his 18 month immersion, 10k sentences, etc program and tell me if you really achieve native fluency, or anything close to that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8532212
>Extremely gratuitous use of the 'again' + 'hard' buttons.

You're not alone. I have long decided that I wasted more time deciding which button to press than I do actually repeating cards, and am now just choosing "hard" mechanically every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8532704

This is how I generally decide which button to push:

Easy: If I recall it instantly with almost no thought.
Good: If I take a couple of seconds but remember it completely.
Hard: If I really have to work to remember it or if I wasn't sure it was the right one.
Soon: If I take 30 seconds and still do not remember or if I get it wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8532333
I believe it. I dont do anything even close to japanese all day, and have achieved quite well in 2 years. Formal study is not necessary. Vocab is the major hurdle.

[Anonymous No.]

I think the mist important thing is to make sure you at least take a look at some moon runes while you anki your Kanji. It really keeps my motivation up when I can sort of understand a sentence, it's that feeling you get when you solve a great mystery.

[Anonymous No.]

Tomorrow already?
Fine, h-here I go.

[Anonymous No.]

why would you learn japanese?
like a small fraction of a percent of people use it, and most of them can speak some english.
learn a useful language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8533670
*use it exclusively

ok, maybe 1%

[Anonymous No.]

>>8533670
Had you said "Danish" or something, then that'd be correct, but saying that most people who speak Japanese speak English to a degree worth mentioning in incorrect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8533676
I was under the impression that Japan was a very monolingual place.

>>8533670
Because we can and we enjoy ourselves while doing so. There is nothing wrong with learning any language in your free time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8533670

You're an idiot, if you aren't learning a language you have a use for, say to understand their media, or becuase you have an interest in their country then you're doing it wrong and you're never going to learn a thing becuase you don't actually give a fuck.

Aside from that It's the 8th most spoken language in the world spoken by a country with one of the largest economies. Go learn Spanish or some shit, and be sure to tell me all the utility you're getting out of it now that you can finally understand those Puerto rican's when they threaten to cut you up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8533670
>why would you learn japanese?

To read VNs

>and most of them can speak some english.

Tohohohoho

[Anonymous No.]

There is no stupid reason to learn a language, there are only stupid reasons to not learn a language.

Languages are about culture, not financial benefits, you money grubbing faggets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8533683
As someone who knows both spannish the only thing spannish is good for is giving random people directions on the street and taking orders in a burger joint. Learning spannish as an english speaker is ridiculously easy, it is so much more easy than learning japanese which is what I am currently trying to learn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8533683
As someone who knows both spanish the only thing spanish is good for is giving random people directions on the street and taking orders in a burger joint. Learning spanish as an english speaker is ridiculously easy, it is so much more easy than learning japanese which is what I am currently trying to learn.

[Anonymous No.]

I just want to grind kanji all day but know that I'm going to get overwhelmed if I do. What should I do? I don't want to sit on my hands while I'm motivated.

[Analockman (Thailand native) No.]

ADsdasdasd

[Anonymous No.]

>>8533813

Divide the kanji in blocks of 50. Climbing a lot of small hills is not as tiring as trying to climb a huge mountain.

[Anonymous No.]

>mfw I was in the middle of my daily reviews

[Anonymous No.]

>>8533833
50, what the shit
I suggest 10

[Anonymous No.]

>>8533950

He wants to grind them the whole day, so 50 is okay.

[Anonymous No.]

Goodnight everyone. Best of luck to you.

I remember things better if I do my reps before I sleep and first thing in the mourning the following day, you guys may say it is a waste of time to do it liker that but it helps me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8534071
Well if you literally mean all day then yeah, okay, 50.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop being a worthless piece of shit and do your reps, /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8540033
>>8489151

OP, thanks, today I really needed this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8540141
These threads are the reason I come to /jp!

[Anonymous No.]

> Today due: 211
I'm sorry for being a worthless piece of shit. I promise I'll revise them all today.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>8540033
I don't read the thread but it makes me happy seeing the grununur (?) OP pic of Laura everyday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8541030
Yeah, this thread introduced me to the wonderful world of gununu.

[Anonymous No.]

Aniki, don't forget to do your reps today.

[Anonymous No.]

I am not too familiar with Anki so if you guys would be so kind... If wanted to only do 10 kanji a day on Monday-Thursday but I wanted to do 25 kanji a day on Friday-Sunday, how would I go about it? What if I want to learn 30 on a particular day of being extra motivated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8544956
I haven't used Anki in forever but it accommodates for both of these things "automatically". Like you can do extra cards if you want, or you can stop early. It'll take into account what you have or have not done for future sessions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8544971
So I can do what I want as long as I want and the program will still keep track of what I need to review? Convenient. Thanks for the reply.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8522296
>one in the same
I'd suggest learning English first.