/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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Visual Novel translation status

11eyes - 2nd partial patch out, 2092 lines left to translate and 7444 lines left to edit before the third partial patch
Air - New team working on it from the beginning
Aiyoku no Eustia - "translation for the first chapter is almost finished"
Akai Ito- Yumei's route released, Nozomi route fully inserted,Uzuki route 40% inserted, 14300/21674 (65.98%) overall inserted, last untranslated arc being translated by original translator
Amaranto - Trial released
Apathy Midnight Collection - fully translated, one arc left to edit
Ayakashibito - ~60% translated, tonya's route translated, stalled while looking for a new translator to continue
Baldr Force Exe - Project starting up
Baldr Sky - Translation ongoing
Cartagra - Initial translation complete, future is unknown
>Concerto Note - C&D, continuing, translation at 38%, editing at 18%
Daiteikoku - 30% translated partial patch out
DraKoi- Initial translation complete
>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 73.1% translated, second partial patch out
>Fortune Arterial- "the translation of Kiriha route is about 99% complete now!"
>Hanahira - 11 of 50 scripts translated
>Higanbana no Saku Yoru Ni - 6211 / 7817 (79.46%) lines translated
Higurashi Daybreak - being translated
Hinomaru- 24% translated, main arc editing
Honey Coming- Prologue 100% translated, common route 80% translated. Yuma Shichiri's route 5% translated

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>Hoshizora no Memoria - prologue patch out, common route fully translated, Isuzu's patch released, overall 47000/55183 (85.17%) translated
Hunks Workshop - ~25% rough translation
Ikusa Megami Zero - Project alive again, 5205 lines translated
Imouto Paradise - 5% translated
>Irotoridori no Sekai - 15,400/51,105 (30.13%) lines translated, up through chapter 11 translated, prologue patch released
Kawakaburi No Cherry - "Meanwhile I am working on it, should be out in a few weeks."
Koitate - Ren and Yukino’s route patch released
Little Busters - Original released, work ongoing with EX./ME content
>Majikoi- Yukie + Chris + Momoyo + teacher route patch released, Wanko route TL: 93%
M&M Enchanting Magic & Sweet Charms- 92%
Mahoutsukai no Yoru, aka Mahoyo - Translation of trial ongoing
Milky Holmes - Being translated
>Mirai no Uta to Tsunagaru Hitomi - Translation planned
Muv-Luv Chronicles - Work being done on The Day After 00 + 01
>Never 7 - all 113 scripts and 62 of 111 tips through initial translation, 25/113 scripts through final translation
Nursery Rhyme - 9049/34410 lines (26.3%) translated
Ore no Imouto - 9.4% (28/299) scripts translated
>Period- All image/UI editing complete, game total translation: 82.89% complete, Miyu + Rin + Aoi + Kohane + Tsuzumi' patches released
Princess Lover - 10% translated
Princess Maker 5- 43% translated
Princess Nightmare - Translator said the project is still active, but very slow, nearly 50% translated
Pure Pure The Story of Ears and Tails- Sachi Patch released, 81.69% translated
Rance 3 - 75% translated
Rance 4 - 20% translated
Rance Quest - 2% translated

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Real Imouto ga Iru - translation: 4330/16108 (27%) editing: 3910/16108 (24%), demo up
Rewrite - Ixrec's upcoming project, expected to take 6-7 months after starting
Sensei Da-isuki 2- roughly 25% translated, still active
Serifu de Kanjite! Seiyuu Doushi: Total: 185/5400 translated
Sharin no Kuni, Yuukyuu no Shounenshoujo - Fully translated, someone has gone through all the scripts for editing
Sin- 65% of episode 1 translated
Sorairo - 2755/48557 (6%) lines translated
Suihensei Made Nan Mile - 32% translated, plans to get a patch out "soon"
Tenshi No Inai 12-Gatsu-"Maho route fixed"
Tenshin Ranman - 2% translated
The Second Reproduction - Fully translated, image editing
Togainu No Chi- 77% translated, partial patch out
To Heart2- 63% translated- "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", new alpha patch released
Tomoyo After - Partial patch released
Toradora Portable - Being translated
Touka Gettan: translation status: ~40% translated
Under The Moon- 6% translated/checked/programmed, still active
Welcome to Pia Carrot 2 - 1st draft translation 35%, as it was found much of the script was originally not dumped
Yandere - 24.9% translated
>Yoakemae Yori Ruriiro Na - 100% translated, 9% edited
Yosuga no Sora - Roughly 40% translated, goal for greater than 50% patch around mid-to-late february

>Aroduc has been working on something new, though has yet to reveal the title ~69382 /76522 lines translated, First route done
>Aroduc also lists a project with 6004 lines

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Official work

MangaGamer:
>Dear Drops - Beta testing finished, trial out, end Feb or early March 2012 planned
Ef - Scripts with NNL right now, final movies with NNL
Harukoi Otome - 4 scripts left to translate, latter half of 2012 release expected
Unannounced title from Nexton planned for Q2 2012
Dengeki Strykers - Translation and editing complete, expected to be out for AX
Sexy magic title from Score- finished testing
Da Capo III - Mentioned at AX
Innocent Grey would also like to bring over an upcoming title related to Kara no Shoujo
Negotiations with age still ongoing
Negotiations for Oretsuba are still ongoing
Two games which they might be getting, the first with a trap, and the second with a hint of "How much blood would you shed to stay alive?"
Games from Denbonosu - "Hopefully in the future with MangaGamer, I can do something in the US too."[president of Denbonosu]
Negotiations ongoing with Clochette, would like to bring over Kamikaze Explorers
Picked up a Circus title with gameplay

JAST
>Yumina the Ethereal - Final QC/post production, couple thousand more images to translate, before AX 2012, website online
Moero Downhill Night Blaze- Early 2012
School Days HQ - April/May 2012, editing through 25% of chapter 5, porting though 30% of the final chapter
Saya no Uta - Solo release planned
Hanachirasu - Solo release planned
Django: Couple more months of translation
Kikokugai - Working out issues
Sumaga- Spring goal, demo soon, got new staff
Seinarukana- picked up, ~35% translated
Starless - Work ongoing
Starry Sky- negotations with voice actors
Muramasa - Common route complete, 2 of 5 chapters towards true end translated, uncertain what will come from the project
>Steins;Gate - 158/175 scripts translated, rough patch out, Jast may pick up the project


Other
LUDESIA- English release planned
Hakuoki - Feb 14th, 2012
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>8451024
Best thread of the week is here!

[Anonymous No.]

Nice to see that FA isn't dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>8451059
No, this is a sad week.

>JAST
>Steins;Gate - 158/175 scripts translated, rough patch out, Jast may pick up the project

Anyway, I'm cheering on you GundamAce, and I hope to god you won't betray us too.

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>>8451067
Buy the VNs. Support the industry if you like the medium.

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>>8451077
That's not the industry. That's Jast.

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>>8451077
I'll never buy a JAST VN due to how many fan translations they've destroyed.
And I usually buy things I like.

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>>8451077
Buy the japanese ones. Don't support JAST. Supporting JAST is the last thing you should do to support the industry.

[Anonymous No.]

Best thread finally here, etc

[Anonymous No.]

JAST will fuck up negotiations, and the patch will be released. Calling it.

[Anonymous No.]

Real Imouto, I cannot wait for you.

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>>8451102
Can you imagine the anger there would be if the MLA patch was never released and Ixrec kept in on his HDD never to see the light of day?

>>8451084
If they only did that half the time I would be fine with it but EVERY project seems like it is getting hijacked.

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>>8451024
>>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 73.1% translated, second partial patch out
to think it may come out some time this century
my god

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I'd like a postscript tagged on to these: stuff finished in the last two months that you may have forgotten about.

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>>8451202
Two months is too much.
There would have been 9 threads to remind you of it by that time.

[Anonymous No.]

The best thread of the week is here again!

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>Ayakashibito - ~60% translated, tonya's route translated, stalled while looking for a new translator to continue

WHY GOD WHY!?

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>>8451202
Naw, not necessary as most lurk on /jp/ often enough not to need to be reminded that Little Busters! was released recently.

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>>8451196
If you extrapolate from the amount of work done from the last 2 VNTS threads to between last one and this one, no it won't.

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>>8451039
>Touka Gettan: translation status: ~40% translated
When did this get updated? It was at 30% for the longest time

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>>8451039
>>Aroduc has been working on something new, though has yet to reveal the title ~69382 /76522 lines translated, First route done

>A public patch will either be out by the end of February or I’ll go insane

[Anonymous No.]

Waiting patiently for Yosuga no Sora.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are people saying Blick shouldn't work with GundamAce? Blick said he'd concede decisions to GundamAce, so we get the speed, minus the drama.
Pretty much a win-win situation to me.

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>>8451411
Two mediocre translators working on the same thing at the same time?
How could that possibly go wrong?

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>>8451067
I'm pretty sure the only thing keeping GundamAce from even actively trying to get his translation officially released is the fact that the license lies by a different company (Cyberfront) than the original company (KID) and the original staff probably wouldn't see any of the money "earned" with it. If he gets such an offer for I/O (the rights to which still lie by the original developer, Regista) I doubt he'd refuse.

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http://www.vn-meido.com/k1/index.php/topic,1060.msg13877.html#msg13877
A new patch for S;G is supposed to come out soon.

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>>8451479
Cyberfront even let people download Never7 for free, as a way to promote code_18.

GundamAce was even advertising it.

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>>8451479
GundamAce here.

No, I have no intention of selling Never7, I/O, or 12Riven to JAST or any other company at this time. Especially not Never7, given all the additions and programming changes me and the hacker have put into this version (the patch will include things only included in the PSP version, and we fixed around some things, such as the fact you no longer need a CD to play the game's BGM. We will also be having a few more additions from other versions). I am not seeking to make any money off of my translations, nor will I actively offer to sell my translations to any company. All I want is for the rest of the Infinity series and related games to see the light of day in English (except Code_18. That can rot, for all I care). That's all that matters to me.

However, I still stand by Blick Winkel's decision for Steins;Gate. Personally, I don't mind if Steins;Gate gets an official release, and I certainly don't mind waiting. Patience is always an important part of the VN translation scene, so I quite frankly don't see what the problem is.

Look, I can understand that some of you may be concerned, what with the recently announced partnership between me and Blick Winkel, and may be under the misunderstanding that this has influenced me in some way. But I've said it before and I'll say it again- our partnership has no impact whatsoever on the Never7 translation project. And as he's said, I'm the one responsible for the decisions regarding the management of the translation. I will say it once more as an official declaration so that you all understand. No, I will not be actively seeking to make any money off of my translations, and intend on working as a fan-translator until my goal has been accomplished.

That's all I want you to understand.

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>>8451540
You know who else told your lies? Blick.

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>>8451540
Huh. Personal profit aside, you're a fan of Takumi Nakazawa, aren't you? Don't you want his company to profit from localization?

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>>8451555
Not GundamAce.
Takumi Nakazawa doesn't have the rights to Never7. And he had no hand in 12Riven. That was Uchikoshi.

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>>8451555
Prove it. All I've seen is Steiner making uninformed statements and losing track of what was going on with the project and people jumping to conclusions that Blick wouldn't sell to JAST without any reason to think that. Just because your ass is devastated is no reason to run around making snarky shitposts.

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>>8451559
Sorry, I was talking about I/O. Should've specified that.

>>8451561
Quoting wrong post?

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>>8451555
I do, but that doesn't mean that I will actively seek payment for the I/O translation. I merely wish to see the game in English. No more, no less. The only way I'd sell my translation is if I were the one being contacted about selling the translation- I wouldn't be the one contacting them.

>>8451540
I would rather you not think of me as a liar. I'd like to think that in the last year or so of translating, I've been forthright and honest about everything I'd do regarding the translations of my projects. If anything indeed changes in the scheme of things, I would be sure to inform all of you unless there were some circumstance that prevented me from doing so.

However, in light of the Steins;Gate incident, I can see why you and a large number of people would believe that anyone associated with Blick Winkel could be considered untrustworthy due to your views on the matter.

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>>8451579
This isn't about you receiving payment, this is about the project becoming an official localization - it's happened without payment before. Are there any conditions (JAST/MG being interested? Steam being interested? Takumi Nakazawa himself being interested?) under which you would consider turning the project into an official localization?

(Don't misunderstand, I would fully support an official I/O localization. But some people would be seriously offended if you did such a thing without announcement at the very start of the project, especially after your >>8451540 post.)

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>>8451579
>The only way I'd sell my translation is if I were the one being contacted about selling the translation- I wouldn't be the one contacting them.
Wow. Greedy as fuck just as expected. Stop translating you money-grubbing whore. Scum like you is what is killing the visual novel translation scene. Wanting anything more than what the filthy bums I pass on the street is just pure greed.

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What the fuck is the big deal about Steins Gate?
There is a perfectly avaliable free translation out there anyway.

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I wonder how long it'll take for people to mass criticize translators for not posting their translations anonymously (attention whoring) or not providing a download of the full game with it (viral marketing).

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>>8451161

Project is and has been dead for a while.

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>>8451622
Real Imouto:
>January 21, 2012 - Seeing as Koto has not even been around (let alone worked on this project) in months, this is pretty much dead. -- Herkz 22:29, 21 January 2012 (CST)

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>>8451631

Yes, that's me.

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>>8451599
>>8451579
You're misunderstanding again. As I've mentioned above, I'm not in it for the money, just for the chance to translate the games I love and to have them out in English. Let me try to be more specific- I would sell the translation to them if and only if they already had a license with Regista. If they didn't have a deal with them, then I wouldn't sell it to them. Not unless I had some affirmation that the deal was solid too. That's the one and only reason I would sell it: if basically what happened between JAST and Nitroplus happened between Regista and some English VN publishing company.

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>>8451576
Yeah, meant the post above it.

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>>8451640
In all these years we have seen one Nitroplus/JastUSA thing get done and released. Muramasa isn't going to be here if at all until 2015 and Sumaga might as well be dead. Do what you want though, I will probably just buy the game if you sold the translation and it was released. I have no problem with buying games or translators selling their work, my problem is the super long delays and dead projects.

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>>8451616
In addition to it being anonymous, you must not make any mention of the project before the release day or else you will still be an attention whore and will be delaying the releases.

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>>8451666
>Muramasa isn't going to be here if at all until 2015

And how is that related to JAST? The translator has always had a job which gave him little time to translate. Now he just happens to work at JAST. These things are unrelated.

>Sumaga might as well be dead

I don't think you understand what's going on with that project at all.

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>>8451666
>Sumaga might as well be dead

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>>8451696
Fuck off Moogy

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Ugh... While I'm usually one to agree with GundamAce's "for fans, by fans" philosophy, it's ungrateful Anons like the ones here that end up making me a cynical bastard and understanding why we have troll translators.

Well, whatever. You do whatever it is works best for you, GundamAce.

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>>8451814
If you're looking for grateful, cock-sucking anons, I assure you that you're in the wrong corner of the internet. The little cock-sucking that you see on /jp/ from time to time is usually some translator sucking his/her own cock like you are right now.

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>>8451850
Exactly the kind of troll translator I'm talking about.

Sup, Insem. Gonna take a nap before I get back to work.

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>>8451850
>his/her own cock
There's something hilarious about the /her part.

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>>8451672
Then aroduc doing it right?

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>>8451881
Are you trying to tell me that dick-girls in Japanese pornography don't actually exist in real life?

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>>8452244
Aren't girls with dicks just guys? -Mom

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>>8452250
Your mom calmly comments on futa?

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>>8452255
I was trying to vaguely quote an image I saw on /jp/ a while back, but was too afraid that would be improper usage of the quote function.

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>Work has officially begun on the final route. Editing deadline for Komomo is 25/01/2012. Hopefully things will go according to schedule.

I'm quite looking forward to this.

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>>8452578
I think you're getting trolled, there are only 12 months in a year.

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>>8452584
I guess they do things differently in 'Straya.

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>>8452584
01/25/2012

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>Sharin no Kuni, Yuukyuu no Shounenshoujo - Fully translated, someone has gone through all the scripts for editing
>someone has gone through all the scripts for editing
What? This sentence seems wrong.

I'm thinking about compiling my own patch from the unedited texts, but can anyone who read them in one way or another tell me about their quality? So far I was checking it randomly on the wiki and it seems fine.

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>>8453547
That's the fan disc right? Don't bother, someone's already compiled a patch.

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>>8452601
Fucking americans.
What are we talking about, anyway?

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so,the Never 7 patch will include stuff from the consoles ports?that's it,I'm looking forward to it even more.

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>>8453569
That's new.
Thanks dude, I found it and it works perfectly. I remember talking about a possible patch years ago, but everyone was pointing at someone else to do it. Guess in the end somebody got the job done.

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>>8451555
>>8451599
wow, where the fuck you you even come from.
get out of /jp/, your making me sick.

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If you actually care about the Japanese industry i pity you because they give two shits about you and anybody outside of japan and really want nothing to do with you. When you actually have to force or ask a industry to bring something over you like or want, it means they really dont want to give it to you or dont care about you at all.

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>>8453606
Yup, someone waited until it was fully translated then compiled a patch, got some feedback and left it at that.
Most of us who cared about it already finished it.

The fandisc's main route is better than the original game.

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>>8453637
>The fandisc's main route is better than the original game.
Let's not throw around such statements so wildly.

I played it with the 1.02 patch and was just waiting for the complete fully edited patch knowing that the game is already 100% translated and the other routes are mostly there for the porn. Then I forgot about it until I realized 2 years had passed and it is still sitting on my PC.

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>>8453591
QC'ing deadlines for Hoshimemo.

Since I like to procrastinate until the last minute.

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BAMP

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>>8451024
>Concerto Note - C&D, continuing
Like a boss.

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>>8453684
you can fuck her mom in the fan disk, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8454014
Yeah, it's a dream though

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>>8453637
Fandisc main route was somewhat depressing relative to the rest of the game.

[Anonymous No.]

Can anyone say which games are soon to be completed/released (the tl's that is.) ?

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>>8454078
Just check the green texted games, those are the ones that have been updated.

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>>The only way I'd sell my translation is if I were the one being contacted about selling the translation- I wouldn't be the one contacting them.
Well fuck.

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>>8454159
he also said he would only do it if the company actually buys the right to release the games,not just in the conversation zone(which is the point of the issue.Groups drop their patches without being sure if the games they were working into will really get a release.This is what killed Chaos;Head and is stalling Steins;Gate now,and this is what Ixrec realized when he saw his contacts with Mangagamer wouldn't go anywhere and decided to release his Muv-Luv patches)

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What happened to Kichikuou Rance ?

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>>8454275
>This is what killed Chaos;Head
No.
Chaos;Head was finished long before N+ and JAST made a deal. Even then, the Noah content porting was dead in the water before that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8454275
Chaos;Head died because no one on the team cared to continue working on it. The project was already dead when JAST got involved and JAST never even showed interest in it.

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>>8454275
>and is stalling Steins;Gate no
Steins;Gate isn't moving any slower than it did before JAST contacted Blick.

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>>8454480

Steins;Gate would be out right now if not for JAST.

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>Concerto Note - C&D, continuing, translation at 38%, editing at 18%
Warms my heart to see this green.

>Fortune Arterial- "the translation of Kiriha route is about 99% complete now!"
Ditto. I was getting ready to consign this to the graveyard (again).

>Higanbana no Saku Yoru Ni - 6211 / 7817 (79.46%) lines translated
Soon... (Keep it up!)

>Hoshizora no Memoria - prologue patch out, common route fully translated, Isuzu's patch released, overall 47000/55183 (85.17%) translated
This is a troll project and will be released solely in order to troll me. You all have me to thank for securing the release of this game.

>Never 7 - all 113 scripts and 62 of 111 tips through initial translation, 25/113 scripts through final translation
I think it's become necessary for me to make some comments here. GundamAce, you have earned my full and total support by your hard work and honorable behavior, and I hope that the same goes for any other respectable members of this community. I would respect any choice you made about the fate of your own project as long as I believed that you thought you were serving the best interests of the fans, but nevertheless, I'm glad to hear you've committed to releasing fan translation patches for all your planned games. I wish you good luck and good fortune in your future endeavors with BlickWinkel, and I hope that the community doesn't continue to blow certain events out of proportion to the point that it effects your projects.

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>>8454636
Who are you quoting?

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>>8454648
He's quoting OP you unfunny shitposter.

[Anonymous No.]

Never7 Common Route teaser patch to be released on April 1st. There's more details on the patch and the differences between the patch and the original on the project page.

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>>8454648
Why are people such faggots about this?

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>>8454748
Ignore it, it's probably just one or two worthless people wasting time.

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>>8454739
There have been nearly complete testing patches avaliable for ages, if you know where to look. I won't say more, because I respect GundamAce's determination to have people see the best product possible.

[Anonymous No.]

at this rate,Higanbana should be out in a month or two.Can't wait to see it...

[Anonymous No.]

a new steins;gate translation was released with tips and etc translated
http://tl.gecko.net46.net/SG/SteinsGate%20Automated%20English%20Patch%20V1_0.7z
and a mirror for it
http://www.mediafire.com/?resp0170ea8zbtd

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>>8454812
Jesus, is this legit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8454748
>>8454760
Same person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8453606
Where did you find the new patch? I looked around to no luck.

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>>8454855

Certainly is.
I'm playing it just now and everything but the achievements in the achievements section is translated.
They are, however, translated when you just unlock one and it pops up.

Support Fan Translations!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8454852
it is

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>Fortune Arterial- "the translation of Kiriha route is about 99% complete now!"

its aliveeee

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>>8454812
who made it? does it have the new translated stuff too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8454909
people from here
http://www.vn-meido.com/k1/index.php/topic,1060.msg13877.html#msg13877

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>>8454812
wait is that a whole new translation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8454942
i'm not really sure, but it DOES have tips and achievements translated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8454951
>>8454942
I think they just fixed up the last released unedited version.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8451540
Disregard the haters. I trust you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8451445
Professional translator here, don't hate me for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8451498
K1, hah... Oh, it's Gecko.

[Anonymous No.]

>Fortune Arterial- "the translation of Kiriha route is about 99% complete now!"
Does this mean it's about to come out

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>>8454951

Sort of... they're working on getting the translated tips/achievements to show up and Gecko has been doing bug tests and the like.

He and the other guy don't seem to have much of an idea what they're doing; if anyone could help them it would be fantastic.

Anything to fuck over faggots like Blick.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Fortune Arterial any better than the anime version? I remember watching 3 episodes back when it came out but it failed to keep me interested. I only remember that I liked Sendou Erika. Should I bother with the vn?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8455077
There's a trial out. See if you like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8454589
No it wouldn't be. Blick was revising the translation before he was contacted, and kept on revising it after the contact.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember all those cunts who were sucking Blick's cock because they thought he was god's gift to VNs?
>"Hey guys, actually my work sucked and I'm going to redo all of it. Also, I'm giving it to Jast."
Some grade A karma there.

[Anonymous No.]

Never7 released for April Fool's Day.
Proof it was a troll translation all along.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8455066
they also tweaked the Chaos;Head patch a bit,somebody should help them to translate the rest of the TIPS from that game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8455162

Nope, he was revising it due to JAST's contact. Read his blog again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8455077
Despite its great sales, it's been reported to be sleep inducing.
I didn't bother to read it because it's from August, but peopel seem to think it's boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8455200
GundamAce here.

Actually, we're releasing it on April 1st because that's the day Never7 starts in-game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8455256
quit replying to every retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>8455256
gundamace, why dont you translate super robot war games? you could do z and z-1, it would be awesome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8455742
Because he's busy translating the infinity games. Go away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8455905
He is right, he should do SRW.

[Anonymous No.]

I concour. If you were a true Gundam fan, you'd translate mecha VN.
You don't deserve this name

[Anonymous No.]

If 5pb and N+ were not utter retards they wouldn't sell the rights for Steins;Gate to JAST; they'd sell them to Aksys or a publisher that can put the game on a console where it can accrue more than five sales. Not being 18+ gives Steins;Gate a ton of options for distribution that are better than JAST.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8456730
I don't think Japanese companies do any research on foreign companies beforehand; or foreign anything for that matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8456730
It should be someone who knows how to make a bundle with some good physical bonuses.

Like, a Metal Upa, a cloth map of Akiba, a Cyalume Saber, or a Nakabachi punching puppet.

[Anonymous No.]

loool can't wait to see these come out xD

[Insemination No.]

>calls himself GundamAce
>doesn't translate any gundamu
>mfw

[Anonymous No.]

How long does it take for a translation, once completed, to be put into a patch and released?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8457213
Three weeks, two days.

[Anonymous No.]

anyone else waiting for Hoshizora no Memeoria

[Anonymous No.]

>>8457213
I'd say around 23 days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8457217
No, it's just you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8457217
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8457217
You know it's a troll and that their patch will shit up your computer, right? Why would you wait after that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8457228

yes, ill be the very first one to download it before reading any feedback.

And how do you know its a troll?

[Insemination No.]

>>8457213
Five minutes to compile scripts and check if patch actually works.
Two weeks for someone to beta-test.
A week to implement any finishing touches.
Two years until JAST/MG picks up your game.
Two years until game gets released after corporate acquisition.

[Insemination No.]

>>8457235
Also, add anywhere between 3–48 months if your editor slacks off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8457232
It's bullshit. Some buttfrustrated retard is saying that's a troll probably because he downloaded an actual troll patch that changed the fucking desktop background. I've been reading the latest patch and it's okay, and it doesn't "screw up" your computer either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8457243
You mean the troll patch released by the group?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8457243
thanks.

>>8457248
eat a dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8457263
Enjoy your touhous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8451196
It was at 63% last September. If the current rate holds, there'll be a full release in November.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8457885
Might want to double check your math there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8457243
Weekly shitposter here; I never downloaded any trollpatch from those guys. My persistence is pure altruism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8455077
VN > Manga adaption >>>>>>>> Anime adaption

[Anonymous No.]

>>8456730
THIS FUCKING THIS.

Somebody tell blick about this, tell him everyone will suck his dick again if he rather sells the translation somewhere that matters. It's the truth, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>Princess Maker 5- 43% translated
;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>8451631
>>8451622
;_; I was awaiting the patch since I didn't manage to understand what google-sama said for Shiori's route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8461959
Were you seriously using google? Because you might as well guess and you'd have a better understanding.

[Anonymous No.]

>Fortune Arterial

Is this actually decent? I never heard of it until they anounced the anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8462172
"Fortune Arterial was rated Best Ero Game of 2008 by 2chan, and was also second best selling ero game of the same year. "
for what that's worth

[Anonymous No.]

>>8454589
It IS out right now, dumbfuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8462120
I used Chiitrans. And google translate is really the most comprehensible as compared to all other translators. Too bad it broke 2 months ago or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8462924
>Chiitrans
Why are you not using Translation Aggregator?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8462262
>"Fortune Arterial was rated Best Ero Game of 2008 by 2chan, and was also second best selling ero game of the same year. "
2008 was Sumaga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8462262
2chan doesn't rank eroge.
2ch does, Fortune Arterial was ranked 10th in 2008.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8464075
I literally just copied that off the translator's site, guess they trolling

[Anonymous No.]

>>8451540
Any chance you'll be releasing a patch with these changes and additions that'll work with the Japanese version of Never7?

[Anonymous No.]

http://visualnovelaer.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/attention-fan-translators-do-not-sell-your-translatio
n-to-jast-usa-we-have-a-much-greater-cause-in-sight-visual-novels-for-the-whole-world-visit-fuwanove
l-com/

>those comments

[Anonymous No.]

>>8464075

I guess that means it's "pretty good". Anyone here has read it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8465982
It's BOOOORING.
Irotoridori no sekai-level boring.

[Kudryavka !!wEyYEw5OlKU No.]

Just for the record, I'm not working on YnS anymore. I was finishing it for Koto, but Koto quit and fucked us all over.

So, yeah, sorry, it'll probably be done in 2015 with just the one group of incompetents working on it. If I can ever get in contact with them I'll see about giving them what work I already did for it, but, well, sorry, YnS is probably not happening for a while. Blame the fucking idiot who has now abandoned three projects. I should've seen it coming, honestly.

Yes, angst, rage, blah blah blah. Translation sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8465962
Yeah, there's really no way for that to succeed. Aaeru and people supporting her are idiots.

[Anonymous No.]

How come no one decides to take over Baldr Sky? It's only like 40,000 lines and it is in huge demand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466092
（　´_ゝ`）

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466092
Because dive1+2 is 90000 lines and has lots of gaeplay you need to hack with weapon description, effects, plugins and other shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466092
Obviously just to spite you,

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466092
To make you learn Japanese. Yes, every single translator in this scene is that altruist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466001
And nothing of value was lost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466092
You're in luck, I'm on it. Final stages now. Nobody else even worry about it, I got this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466092
It is most certainly much longer than 40,000 lines. There are already publicly available tools for it. You can look up the exact linecount if you wanted to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466092
There've been numerous hints that Ixrec is going to pick it up after Rewrite. Obviously this hasn't been confirmed yet, but at this stage it's pretty likely it will happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8465982
Not all the route is good, so yeah, it can be considered pretty good.

All the good/decent stuff will always have a haters so just ignore them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466163
Or maybe someone can convince Aroduc to do it.
If it's not what he's doing right now which it isn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466092
Strato here.

I'm tired of people assuming I dropped the project, or impersonating me for that matter. I've been working on Dive1 at a steady pace for a few months now, and it should be ready by mid 2012. I have one route finished, but I'll abstain from releasing partial patches before I get someone I thrust to quality check.

There have been several reasons for the lack of progress and updates, but I won't make any excuses because I don't owe any. I will finish the translation of Dive1 because I had both already started it and promised I'd finish it, but I don't think I'll be doing Dive2. I've talked to Ixrec about it and he says he'll continue the series if he's convinced with my work. I think he's likely to redo the whole thing, but I don't personally care. So yes, you'll have your translated game, either by my hand or Ixrec's.

This is probably the last statement I make until I'm ready to release something, be it a partial or the full patch. That is all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466275
>Strato here
lolno

[Anonymous No.]

>>8451024
what's the big damn deal about jastusa at least they are trying to bring over eroge despite their underhand tactics... well that's capitalism for you.. any comments on mangagamer's efforts??

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466344
search nakige on vndb

[Anonymous No.]

I'll just use this thread since I don't want to make one.

Can someone recommend me a vn that will make you cry? maybe your top 5 of sad ones. I just finished kara no shoujo and that didn't do it for me, just kinda made me upset. Thanks. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466346
Thanks. I actually forgot I had a game a RL friend told me to play already downloaded and installed. It is on that list and just reminded me. Thank you man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466315
What's the last eroge JAST has actually translated for themselves again?

Hijacking fan translations does nothing for us. Arguably it is more "legitimate" than using fan patches, but who the fuck wants to wait an extra year each time just for that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466409
Doesn't Makoto's new job retroactively make the Nitro+ games JAST translations?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466424
I guess, but the point is that they're adding nothing to the pool of translated English VNs. Just because they hire a guy and acquire the rights to all his work doesn't really change that. I'd like to see them do more of their own translation projects again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466409
yukkuri panic, half of the demonbane

[Anonymous No.]

If they were actively hiring translators to begin their own projects, nobody would have any issues with JAST. The problem is that they don't respect their audience.

They are actively hostile to the "existing 4chan base" and to fan translations in general, while simultaneously seeking to exploit that fan energy by jumping on mostly finished projects, for which they offer chicken feed. They work against, rather than with, the people who care the most about the products they are translating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466505

Except those people are not really their customers. At least, they don't make up a big enough portion for their opinion to be very relevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466505
>>8466505
>If they were actively hiring translators to begin their own projects
sumaga, yumina, starless

also what stops translators from refusing working with jast? and why do i never see translators complain?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466565
They get paid, or just e-penis feeling like they're part of an official localization. Just because the translators are alright with it doesn't mean the rest of us aren't getting fucked over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466583
you have no right to be "fucked over" if you're not a translator

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466583
>doesn't mean the rest of us aren't getting fucked over
who? people who dont contribute anything to fan translations?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466565
3 unreleased titles with vague release dates that have been drifting backwards, including one that had a pre-existing project at licensing, yet another fucking nukige, and one that's being translated by a former amateur group that was doing fine on their own

Yes, thank goodness we have JAST

[Anonymous No.]

I advice everyone that really likes VNs to just learn Japanese. Waiting months or years for a VN when you could be reading dozens in the meantime is just a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466620

And they're still not gonna give a shit what you think until you're their customer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466634
And I'm not going to be their customer until they give a shit about what I think! I wonder who comes off the worse in this little stand off?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466633
wasting years waiting for a translation
wasting years learning japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466634
If you can't see what's wrong with that logic, I don't know what to tell you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466620
>3 unreleased titles
WELL GEE MAN I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ACTIVE PROJECTS HERE HOW FUCKING SILLY OF ME WELL THEN THEY FUCKING HIRED FUCKLOAD OF TRANSLATORS FOR THEIR PAST PROJECTS IS THIS ENOUGH FOR YOU
>one that had a pre-existing project at licensing, and one that's being translated by a former amateur group that was doing fine on their own
thats the same project asscunt unless same MYSTERIOUS TRANSLATOR F who translated kiminozo and baldr sky was working on yumina. and sumaga project was doing so fucking fine most of it had to be redone

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466637
>years
I started last spring and I can now read 90% of VNs without looking up words. Then again I suppose expecting anyone on /jp/ to put effort into anything beyond masturbation is asking too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466653
They have 0 track record of bringing over something like Sumaga with the level of quality or polish of a good fan translation. Judge them on what they've produced - which is a long trail of ancient shitty nukige and delayed fan projects spat out again a year late with three lines in the PDF manual changed.

Maybe they're going to shock the balls off me with a really awesome job on this game, and maybe they'll start bringing out good stuff on a timely basis after that. I'll believe it when I fucking see it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466633
im here for drama. fuck vns

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466638

You, by far. JAST clearly still exists without the patronage of people like you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466639

Nothing is wrong. JAST will continue to license whatever they please and you will continue to read whatever they release because you have nothing better to do.

[Insemination No.]

There is very little reason to support JAST. Results are the only the things that matter. So far, they've proven to be useless. I'm sure anyone who can't read Moon would want more games to be readable in English; who the fuck cares about the industry?

>>8466001
What exactly is the status on YnS? I've been eyeing Sora's route for quite a while, but I've been hesitant to work on it because there have never been concise status updates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466675
They still exist, but with smaller profits because we don't buy their shit. By contrast, I'm not inconvenienced in the slightest by not paying them money. If I still want their sloppy shit by the time it finally gurgles out of their congested bowels, I take it.

If they were anything but parasites coasting by with the lowest possible effort, it wouldn't be that way. Believe me or not, but I would pay for a polished, professional Steins;Gate on Steam or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466701
I really, really want to play through Sora's route. Please consider it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466715
It really isn''t worth your time. I read YnS just for the Sora route and although it had some lewd moments, on the whole it''s a subpar VN. Instead of people working on all these subpar VNs it would be better if they were to focus on decent ones like Aiyoku no Eustia or Hoshizora no memoria or Moshimo ashita ga hare naraba etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466671
This. I'd have a lot more sympathy for JAST if their releases weren't so unprofessional. It's like paying money for a typical fan translation.

[Insemination No.]

>>8466772
People play YnS for the blonde, twin-tailed twincest route — not for the plot. All the other heroines are shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466793
Why not just watch the anime?

[Insemination No.]

>>8466805
The animu has a different art style. I didn't like the tones/palette as much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466671
They may not have done much to be impressed about, and they have done a couple of things incredibly awkward.
That said, Demonbane turned out just fine, despite of Nitro+'s delay, and how its essentially a fan translation with added editing and proofreading.

We also got the deluxe engine. Nitro+ were sort of retarded in the process, but in the end they upgraded the engine.

But yeah, that's well, one good example of well, it's not much at all in comparison of their entire catalog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466871
>We also got the deluxe engine. Nitro+ were sort of retarded in the process, but in the end they upgraded the engine.
The original engine Demonbane was on would have been much better. N2System sucks ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466911
What was the original engine?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466914
NPS. It's the same engine that things like Saya, Kikokugai, and Hanachirasu ran on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8466911
The new engine is cool, shuffles between fullscreen and windowed easily and is in fact quite nice.

[Kudryavka !!wEyYEw5OlKU No.]

>>8466701
>What exactly is the status on YnS? I've been eyeing Sora's route for quite a while, but I've been hesitant to work on it because there have never been concise status updates.
Want to know how fucking incompetent and useless Koto is? I don't fucking know what the status is on Sora route, and I was fucking translating it. I kept asking him, over and over, to tell me what lines he had actually finished, since I was told I only needed to do the first (roughly) half of the route.

For all I know, Koto's contribution to it has evaporated, since I can't get *anything* out of him. Unless someone can convince him to put up the 4-5k lines he did, they'll have to be redone.

And if you're interested in translating YnS, it would probably be best to get in contact with the guys at trjr.wordpress.com. The plan after a certain point turned into me doing Sora route while they did the shitty character routes that no one was gonna read anyway. It seems like they're still active. Go ask them what to do, since they apparently could use another translator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467010
Remember when Koto posted a test for translators and then declared nobody was up to his standards? Fun times.

[Kudryavka !!wEyYEw5OlKU No.]

>>8467047
I was the guy he said was up to standard, for the record...

But yes, that was a pretty dumb move, considering his Japanese isn't perfect either. He's really not much better than me at Japanese, and his English composition is pretty much terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467058
It's funny. Decent English composition can cover up a massive range of translation woes (see: almost every console RPG ever), but the VN scene is a disaster as far as that's concerned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467089
I think it's because most translators aren't actually Americans (or native English speakers, for that matter).

Because you know, Americunts learning Japanese only happens in fucking anime.

[Anonymous No.]

Even pretty competently fan-translated VNs tend to be overly literal translations and suffer for it. FSN for example would have been a lot better if the translator had given less of a fuck about reproducing the exact metaphors from the original text. But writing is hard.

[Insemination No.]

>>8467010
I'm only interested in the Sora route; joining them would just complicate things. Besides, projects with multiple translators don't exactly have a good track record.

[Anonymous No.]

>Tomoyo After
I remember some fansub group took over this TL, what ever became of it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467089
I think the problem with the VN scene is the people involved with the translations

With things like published J-RPGs the people working on the translations probably have vastly greater experience with the Japanese language compared to people working on VNs on the side. Being able to read a light novel after studying for two years doesn't compare to a person that has taken college classes or learned Japanese as a kid

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467114
Or they just don't have the motivation since Japanese is so different compared to Spanish or German.

I'm willing to bet most TL'ers are Chinese or at least Chinese-Americans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467152
>college classes
ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467162
Yeah I probably should've put language/linguistics degree there to differentiate from people that just take something at a community college

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467181

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467058
>He's really not much better than me at Japanese.

Yeah, actually, if the translation he did for Sora's route was done before the little bit of work he did on Sorairo(around February of 2011), and I'm pretty sure it was, then it might need to be redone anyway. His Japanese was pretty bad from what I saw. Well ok I'm not sure if it's his Japanese or just his ability to translate that Japanese into English. Either way it was pretty bad

Some examples

新幹線を約２時間乗り、次に特急を２時間も進み…\n既にこの時点で、家を
出て５時間が経過していた。
It took two hours on a bullet train,\nand then another two hours on a limited express train...\nFive hours passed since we'd left home.


花子「はじめまして、篠原花子ですっ。最近気になってるのは
『スイカの白い種を埋めると白いスイカが育つかどうか』
でお馴染み、背伸びしたいお年頃の女の子ですっ」
Hanako「Hello there, I'm Shinohara Hanako and recently I've been wondering whether I'll get a white watermelon if I plant a white watermelon seed and I'm Ai's friend and a mature, easygoing lady who wants to grow really tall!」

花子「そうです、篠原花子ですっ。
ちなみに『背伸びしたいお年頃』っていうのは、
大人に憧れてるっていう意味ですから！」
Hanako「Yep, I'm Shinohara Hanako! Oh, and when I say I'm a mature lady who wants to grow really tall, it means I like adults!」

やかま：愛衣のクラスメートにして親友。
明るく元気でよく喋る。やかましい。
その全てに「無駄に」が付いてしまう、愛すべきおバカキャラ。
Boisterous: Ai's classmate and friend.
Bright, energetic, and talks a lot.
Attaching "pointless" to all of that,
she's a lovable, foolish character.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>8467089
Amateur translators for console RPGs were never good either compared to the pros.

>>Mint's got that quiet elegance, but I bet Arche fucks like a tiger!

[Anonymous No.]

Oops ignore that first example I pasted the wrong thing

[Insemination No.]

>>8467137
Doki has a number of anime translators working on it in addition to the 5-6 shows they're subbing every season. The project will be an editing nightmare even if they somehow finish it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467207
Oops ignore that first example, pasted the wrong thing.

Meant to paste this

にもかかわらず、更に乗り継いだのは、２両しかない単線。
Although, we had no choice but to take two trains.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467058
>He's really not much better than me at Japanese.

Yeah, actually, if the translation he did for Sora's route was done before the little bit of work he did on Sorairo(around February of 2011), and I'm pretty sure it was, then it might need to be redone anyway. His Japanese was pretty bad from what I saw. Well ok I'm not sure if it's his Japanese or just his ability to translate that Japanese into English. Either way it was pretty bad

Some examples

にもかかわらず、更に乗り継いだのは、２両しかない単線。
Although, we had no choice but to take two trains.

花子「はじめまして、篠原花子ですっ。最近気になってるのは
『スイカの白い種を埋めると白いスイカが育つかどうか』
でお馴染み、背伸びしたいお年頃の女の子ですっ」
Hanako「Hello there, I'm Shinohara Hanako and recently I've been wondering whether I'll get a white watermelon if I plant a white watermelon seed and I'm Ai's friend and a mature, easygoing lady who wants to grow really tall!」

花子「そうです、篠原花子ですっ。
ちなみに『背伸びしたいお年頃』っていうのは、
大人に憧れてるっていう意味ですから！」
Hanako「Yep, I'm Shinohara Hanako! Oh, and when I say I'm a mature lady who wants to grow really tall, it means I like adults!」

やかま：愛衣のクラスメートにして親友。
明るく元気でよく喋る。やかましい。
その全てに「無駄に」が付いてしまう、愛すべきおバカキャラ。
Boisterous: Ai's classmate and friend.
Bright, energetic, and talks a lot.
Attaching "pointless" to all of that,
she's a lovable, foolish character.

[Cudder No.]

>>8467224
Editing will fix everything.

[Anonymous No.]

A mediocre or poor translation is pretty easily forgivable if the prose and writing don't call attention to it, but shitty writing makes even an accurate translation a chore. Obviously though, it's best by far to have both. I'm just surprised there's so little on a certain side of the chart.

[Blick Winkel No.]

>>8467245
No it won't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467157
I never said or implied any reasons, so you don't need to get defensive.

>Or they just don't have the motivation since Japanese is so different
This doesn't make sense, it may be different (not more than Spanish in my opinion) but the difficulty is about the same, if not less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467278
Maybe if you're just talking spoken Japanese, but written Japanese would definitely be harder to pick up than Spanish for an English-speaker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467207
Thanks for the extracts, they were pretty good practice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467224
>Doki
Might as well use google.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467377
You've never even watched Doki's subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467287
Japanese: Easy as fuck grammar but have to learn 2000+ characters.

Spanish: Have to learn only one new character and a couple of new sounds, pretty hard and complex grammar.

It basically depends on what abilities your brain is better at.

This is coming from a Spanish native speaker, by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467401
>Japanese: Easy as fuck grammar
True but also not. The rules are easy, but so much of it is contextual that the same sentence could mean a ton of different things since the objects and subjects are omitted. It's probably more natural for a native romance language speaker since they also omit pronouns, but thinking like that for a native English speaker can be extremely hard since that's not how our language works at all.

[Anonymous No.]

I could not feel more guilty asking this, especially given how many Japanese language threads I've witnessed over the years, but what's a good place to start learning?
I'm very sorry and I will delete my post after a satisfactory flame/response.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467421
Definitely start by learning the kana. Get those down really well before you do anything else, you don't want to be fucking around with romaji at all, just gets you into bad habits. After that there are lots of different ways to go about it. What I planned on doing was getting down the basic grammar and a few important kanji, then to try to go through some easier VNs with aid of a dictionary and hope to pick up as much as I could as I went. Not sure how good of a strategy that'd have been though, I somehow lost steam after a week or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467421
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/index.html#contents

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467430
Exactly what I've been doing. It's going pretty well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467410
I dunno, as a native English speaker I really have very little trouble with the grammar.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know if this is a good book for getting started on Japanese? http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Modern-Japanese-Book/dp/052154887X/ref=pd_vtp_b_2 I already downloaded a scanned version of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467382
Do you seriously believe they don't suck? I mean, they may not be Hadena level, but they're low tier fansubbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467454
They're actually high quality subbers, they're just really, REALLY slow to release stuff. Go take a look at comparison screenshots for once in your life before mindlessly repeating what you've seen on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467410
But that would only make Spanish even harder, wouldn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467421
>>8467430
>>8467431
>>8467436
>>8467451
>>8467447
>>8467460

>>8461081

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467430
I think learning daily kanji while you play games in Japanese with ITH is pretty much the best way to do it, so yes, it was a good strategy.

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>>8467460
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro-drop_language#Romance_languages
Romance languages can drop the subject, but it's indicated by the verbal conjugation. Japanese can drop fucking everything. 大好き can mean anything from "I love you" to "He loves his car" in the proper context.

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>>8467459
http://8ths.in/2011/10/11/shakugan-no-shana-in-depth-sub-review-commie-ss-eclipse-doki/

[Kudryavka !!wEyYEw5OlKU No.]

>>8467401
Okay, I know Japanese and I'm double majoring in Chinese+Spanish with a minor in ELS. I think I know some shit about this subject.

SPANISH IS FUCKING EASY COMPARED TO JAPANESE. BETTER THAN HALF THE WORDS ARE THE EXACT SAME, THE SENTENCE ORDER IS LARGELY THE SAME, THE GRAMMAR IS LARGELY THE SAME, MUCH MORE OF THE CULTURE IS SHARED, ETC. ETC.

Spanish literally reads like fucked up English. If you seriously think it's anywhere near as hard as Japanese, you're fucking high. I could read classic Spanish novels from the 19th century in my 3rd year of high school Spanish. I still can't read Japanese shit written fifty years ago without a dictionary, and *I've invested ten times as much effort and time into Japanese than Spanish*.

[Anonymous No.]

Japanese is easier to learn for Spanish speakers, both phonetically and grammatically. This is widely accepted. However, in my opinion there is almost a genetic predisposition to be able to fluently speak multiple languages at the near-native level. I've seen people who've studied French for years in an academic setting have worse pronunciation than the beginners who happen to "get" French pronunciation. Same thing with Japanese, and in fact any language. You either "get" it, or you don't, and it'll end up sounding very forced.

That's why many beginner's French classes don't start you off right away with pronunciation or grammar. Hell, most instructors even advise against getting a F-E dictionary because it's not really helpful if you don't "get" the language.

Also fan translators are poseurs (I think I said this like, 3x today in 3 different threads). People who are serious about translating need a wider scope of material to translate than manga and anime. It really ticks me off when the so-called "pros" like Daiz and his crew preach about his idea of translations on /a/ as if it were gospel, and that there MUST BE one way to do all translations, and everything is WRONG. 8thsin probably doesn't even have a strong Japanese background, he thinks karuta is hard to understand. They're fucking idealists who probably have never translated anything in the professional capacity. Because if they did, they wouldn't be in fan translation.

That is my personal opinion as a grad linguistics student who has intern'ed at an interpreter agency.

TLDR

Anybody can learn a language, shit is easy if you're committed. What everybody may not be able to obtain is the ability to "get" the language, an intrinsic understanding of the language-- to be able to re-wire your brain to think in that language, rather than to think about it in your native language first, then translating it.

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>>8467499

Nobody said Spanish is hard except for that Spanish dude. Everybody wants to think that their native language is hard.

Also, 100% of the time, when somebody says "X language is easy," they're either bullshitting, or they suck. Fluent Japanese speakers who are non-Asian are extremely rare, and this is exemplified by the fact that Japanese natives are extremely sensitive to slight lingual mistakes. Seriously, I've seen 在日 accusations being thrown around on 2ch because of a minor error.

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>>8467507

False. Anyone can be fluent at a language and function just as any other fluent person can. That's outsider propaganda like "you need to be young".

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>>8467522

>Anyone can be fluent at a language

You can't really prove what you're saying, but you can support your argument. I have anecdotal evidence that interpreters who have worked in Japan for over 10 years have yet to sound natural enough to satisfy a native speaker. Perhaps it's the way your brain functions, I would know in two years after I have done extensive interdisciplinary research.

What do you base your assertion on? Can you speak Japanese, or any third language with the fluency of a native?

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>>8467513
I'm br and I think spanish is pretty hard.
It's like learning portuguese again but different...

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467535
N.A.T.I.V.E.M.O.R.S.E.C.O.D.E.S.P.E.A.K.E.R.H.E.R.E.Y.O.U.R.E.A.L.L.W.H.I.N.E.Y.B.I.T.C.H.E.S

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467507

source for this gif?

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>>8467513
>Nobody said Spanish is hard except for that Spanish dude.
I said that based on what several English native speakers have told me over the years. I might be wrong, but that's because I can't really confirm this information by myself.

>Also, 100% of the time, when somebody says "X language is easy," they're either bullshitting, or they suck.
Bull fucking shit. English is easy regardless, and Japanese is only hard because of kanji.

I'm talking about reading though, I do realize writing is a different matter, in any language.

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>>8467573

>I'm talking about reading though, I do realize writing is a different matter, in any language.

... DUH?

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>>8467533
I'm not the guy you're responding to, but I think he's right to some degree. Nearly anyone can become fluent in a language given enough time and effort. Of course, I guess it just depends on what you mean by fluency. I agree with you that speaking is one of the hardest things to get right, especially if it's a language that has sounds that aren't used in your native language. However, of those interpreters you mention that can't speak well enough to satisfy a native speaker, how many of them have truly put in the time and effort to be able to speak properly?

To give an example, I've been studying Japanese off and on for the past couple years, and my reading, writing, and hearing abilities have skyrocketed, but my speaking ability is probably about the same as when I started. It's just a lot easier to do the other things. Learning how to speak properly usually means carefully practicing, listening to and mimicking native speakers, and possibly having a native speaker help correct your mistakes. It's a lot harder to do that than it is to sit there and memorize 5 kanji or what have you.

You are right that some people just "get it" when it comes to pronunciation. I've met people like that. But I still think if someone truly put in the effort, they could speak well enough that it wouldn't be jarring to a native speaker. Think about actors who learn how to speak different accents or languages for their roles: were all of those actors somehow gifted with the ability to pronounce things properly?

I know this is just speculation, but those are my thoughts on the matter.

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>>8467479
You could at least check the rest of his website.

For some reason I get an awesome
>Part of your comment isn't allowed to be posted :(
when linking so I'm cutting the beginning of the link

/2011/09/29/fall-2011-fansub-comparison/

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>>8467533

>I have anecdotal evidence that interpreters who have worked in Japan for over 10 years have yet to sound natural enough to satisfy a native speaker. Perhaps it's the way your brain functions, I would know in two years after I have done extensive interdisciplinary research.

Just because you’re near the water, that doesn’t mean you’re taking a bath — one must actually enter the tub. You will find that these people continue to mostly/only read books, watch movies, work with and talk to people in their primary/native language. There are many Western men married to Japanese women, with Japanese-speaking Eurasian children, who know no Japanese beyond the basics. Many first-generation Chinese immigrants in the US may have lived there for decades, yet can barely speak English. This is called a "gaijin bubble". You see that he's an interpreter, but how often does he have normal conversations with Japanese people outside of work? Translating is different from comprehending; it's a different approach.

Unless you can attest that he was speaking, reading, and comprehending real Japanese every day then "working in Japan" is no different than, for example, "working in America and being a fansubber". If one is comprehending and speaking Japanese with natives every day he won't just sound *like* them he will *be* them; a Japanese speaker. This is how the mind works. It is a fundamental truth.

If one practices Japanese every day he will get it. Nothing can stop this. There is no magic involved. There is no "some people are special". They're not.

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>>8467577
He mentioned writing for some reason, but we're talking about reading and translating here. You don't really need to write in Japanese to translate Japanese to English.

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>>8467573
Is English really easy? I would have thought that spelling would be a bitch on a similar level to kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

Sup guys.

Just saying, Akira fans do exist for YnS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467582

>This is how the mind works. It is a fundamental truth.
>fundamental truth (regarding psychology)
>fundamental truth (about anything)

Confirmed for not being in an academic capacity to make statements about anything regarding languages. Way to pull shit out of your ass.

More anecdotal evidence. Anglophone reporter working in a Quebec radio station, who studied French starting at an immersion program in middle school and still has flawed pronunciations of r's, e's and a's.

That is my observation. Saying that "anybody can do X" is not really based on science or observation, it's just a way to motivate students into learning a new language because there's no reason to hold anybody back from doing so.

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>>8467513
korean scum detected

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>>8467583
Protip: place empty spoiler tags somewhere in the address to avoid that.

Also, what's your point? Don't read what 8th Sin is saying, read the Japanese extracts and compare them with what Doki put out. If you're saying I should see Doki's other scores, I'll have to remind you that Doki uses the official scripts when available.

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>>8467607

You think you're smart because you have a paper, kid, but in reality you know nothing. Anecdotal evidence is meaningless, and burden of proof lays with the one making the claim and not the counter-claim. For every anecdotal example you give me I can explain why it's invalid and can't be used to support your fairy tale that some humans have special brains.

2/10 for effort.

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>>8467615

在日でもないし朝鮮人でもねえ

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>>8467618
What I'm saying is that they fired that translator a while ago.

None of their other scores are below a B (you started linking 8thsin's stuff, don't start saying it's unimportant now).

If you really want to, go look at ji-hi and check the comparison screenshots. They really aren't Hadena level (or Commie for that matter).

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>>8467631

Doki might have decent translations but their editors are all shitty AND they're slow. (also fuck British English)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467620

>You think you're smart because you have a paper, kid, but in reality you know nothing.

Why are you so mad anyway, I'm stating my observations that some people just don't get languages no matter how much they try. I'm not making a hypothesis, it's just an OBSERVATION. Burden of proof is irrelevant when making discussions.

I really wanted to not go into name calling (like using the word 'kid'), but saying shit like DURR BURDEN OF PROOF NO U is not really fruitful at all. It's like studying at a seminary and telling your professor that I AIN'T LEARNING THIS SHIT UNTIL YOU FULFILL YOUR BURDEN OF PROOF THAT GOD EXISTS.

Grow up, internet warrior.

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>>8467642
Go fuck yourself.

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>>8467620

I don't necessarily agree with the guy you're arguing with, but you sound like an immature armchair debater who doesn't have anything to say in the first place, other than "I can prove you wrong, but I'm sticking to my conclusion that I have derived upon myself."

>This is how the mind works.

You talk about the burden of proof, but where is the proof in this statement?

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>>8467590
I don't think it is, but this might be a biased opinion from someone who's actually participated in (English) spelling bees back in high school.

My biggest problem would pronunciation when speaking out loud, but then again, I have problems with the pronunciation of my own language too (I talk too fast).

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>>8467651

Was this really necessary

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>>8467605
Sup bro.

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>>8467669

Agreed. The way to refute an argument, especially after invoking the burden of proof, is not to make another baseless statement like "This is a fundamental truth."

Now you have to prove your statement, because it's not a refutation of the original argument.

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>>8467649

Cherry-picking, and Strawman. Now you're obfuscating and evading. This is a sign of defeat. You're free to observe what you like, but know what your line of thinking is fallacious. Just because a person takes french classes and can't speak french like a native doesn't mean he's not capable. That's fallacious reasoning. In reality it's because classes are generally very, very, very shitty for learning language. This is evidenced by the fact that four years of University Japanese will get won't even get you past middle-school level fluency.

>>8467669

It was a common sense statement. I can support if you have any issues with what I said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467651

Okay, but I'm trying to eat right now.

[Anonymous No.]

If JAST wanted my money they would translate some of those PSP VNs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467631
Dude, what are you talking about?
Their two B's are from P4 (in which they used the official script) and Un-Go (in which they might have used the official script, I don't really know).

Also, >>8467651 is not me, so don't you dare think you've proven me wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467720
Excuse the misquotation, I meant I'm not >>8467642

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>>8467694

>but know what your line of thinking is fallacious

Yes, it is fallacious but it's not really at all relevant when making observations derived from statistics. It's like me pulling up a chart showing a relationship between drunk drivers and accidents, and saying that CORRELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION.

At some point, you become convinced that drunk driving causes accidents, just as how some people can't ever "get" a language. I have stated my observations, and I'm fairly convinced by this.


>four years of University Japanese

As if it is at all relevant to immersion programs and living in a French community.

>I can support if you have any issues with what I said.

Please do. You might win an award if you successfully make an argument about how the brain works (presumably) without any background in science.

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>>8467620
>For every anecdotal example you give me I can explain why it's invalid and can't be used to support your fairy tale that some humans have special brains.
Well, step to it. There's at least one piece for you to pick apart right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467694
>I can support if you have any issues with what I said.
Do so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467734
>>8467735
>>8467736

Way to samefag. I take back the 2/10. Now it's 0/10 for desperately using proxies to outargue me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467750
You can't say 0/10 if you responded. Any time you respond it's automatically at least 1/10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467750

That's not me. I don't know who this is. I might be the person I'm arguing with trying to make me look bad. I'm still writing my response.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467756
(backpedaling)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467750
10/10, masterfully executed.

We now return to your regularly scheduled translator drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467750
Even if I happened to be a samefag, it doesn't stop you from backing up your facts does it?

And no, I'm not the guy you were arguing with, just someone that dislikes the kind of "I can do it but won't" arguments.

[Anonymous No.]

Thread's past bump limit now anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467734

>At some point, you become convinced that drunk driving causes accidents, just as how some people can't ever "get" a language. I have stated my observations, and I'm fairly convinced by this.

By that line of reasoning observing language learners who took classes will only tell you that they don't work. By definition you're admitting your fallacy, as the only common factor is "classes". Nice job.

>As if it is at all relevant to immersion programs and living in a French community.

Living in french communties =! devoting to french. We've been over this. Don't argue about other languages until you work on your comprehension in this one.

>Please do. You might win an award if you successfully make an argument about how the brain works (presumably) without any background in science.

Sure.

>Simply listening to a new language sets up the structures in the brain required to learn the words.
>And the way to build those neural structures is by listening

>And a few studies suggest that disfluency works well as a prompt to get people to think carefully and catch mistakes. Alter and Oppenheimer found that using a more difficult font can get students to do better on the Cognitive Reaction Test, a three-question test that usually trips up people answering intuitively. In another study, they found that disfluency also led people to think more abstractly. Schwarz and Song found that a difficult font can dramatically increase the number of people who correctly respond to the question, “How many animals of each kind did Moses take on the Ark?” (The answer is “none” - Moses wasn’t on the Ark.)

>>8467759

(butthurt)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467788
>Let's start shitposting.
Okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467756
>I'm still writing my response.

Just give up on trying to debate this. My statement

>Not everybody is capable of doing something very hard

is not a hypothesis that needs to be refuted. I certainly won't use it as a premise to conduct research. It was just a casual statement, and as an opinion of a polygot who had experience with polygots of many different backgrounds.

YOU'RE the one going on about how I'm being fallacious, and that you don't need to prove anything. Well no shit, it would be fallacious if I were arguing my case for it. But I'm not, I'm just saying that "I think some people will never get it."

If you have a problem with it, say something to back it up. Don't be a faggot who says "NOPE NOPE NOPE, BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING."

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467794

>Simply listening to a new language sets up the structures in the brain required to learn the words.

Not the guy you're arguing, but I can use this phrase to make a statement that if you listen to Arabic radio long enough, you'll eventually pick up on it.

It doesn't really prove anything, much less the guy's argument that not everybody can acquire native fluency in a language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467798

(backpedaling)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467807

It supports my statement on how the brain works and is from a credible source. You can sit now and stop samefagging. You've lost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467794

>Simply listening to a new language sets up the structures in the brain required to learn the words.
>And the way to build those neural structures is by listening

I'm sure everybody has the ability to learn a new language, like I've said.

Pronunciation on the other hand, has nothing to do with learning words. I'm not very familiar with the psychological aspect, but oral speech works parts of the brain different from cognitive reasoning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467820

>It supports my statement on how the brain works

Not it doesn't bro. It just means that a retard can eventually learn what 2+2 is.

Also, what makes you think I'm a samefag? There are 3 guys 'against' you, which you accused of proxying. As if anybody is autistic enough to do that.

[Anonymous No.]

My two cents on this.
I started Japanese at college a month ago (classes everyday), mostly to help my speaking because it was pretty lacking when compared to other areas, but decided to start from zero anyway.

>One month
>3DPD still can't pronounce "はじめまして"

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467823

False.

>When we are trying to learn new foreign words we are faced with sounds for which we may have absolutely no neural representation. A student trying to learn a foreign language may have few pre-existing neural structures to build on in order to remember the words

Lots of exposure modifies the brain in a way to output properly.

>>8467836

It does by definition; this is called "you in denial".

>which you accused of proxying.

I didn't. You don't need a proxy to samefag on an Anonymous board. The fact that you resorted to a smear campaign is a sign of your resignation unfortunately.

>>8467849

Yes. Classes are shit for learning language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467853
>Yes. Classes are shit for learning language.
But they're not, everyone else is going at a steady pace. Sure, there are others that still can't tell the difference between ツand シ or ソ and ン at first sight, but nobody is as bad as her.

I guess retards are gonna retard wherever they try to learn, but it's not like they absolutely can't learn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467796

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467884

No. They are; assuming you have a normal defintion of "bad". The typical four year high school Japanese curriculum won't teach you more than 10-20% of the Joyo Kanji being generous. I define that as terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467808

I'm going to stop posting. It's obvious that I've hurt your feelings or something (are you Daiz?). You can accuse me all you want for admitting defeat, but I've been on the internet long enough to simply not give a shit, kid. Afterall, I'm the one with a scroll, an internship at a prestigious agency, and you're some language guru who believes that having an academic background means absolute shit (in which you're right, if all you care about is becoming a translator monkey working for 5cents a word at some Chinese agency).

If I knew that I were going to be offending a formidable debater such as you, I still would have made haphazard comments like the cognitive dissonance man (pic related) because only people like you would go out of their way to argue with an anonymous person on the internet. No harm done, people like you will exist regardless, and meanwhile, people like me don't give a shit. I won't get credits for arguing with you.


>You don't need a proxy to samefag on an Anonymous board

I didn't even know that. Yet here you are, accusing me of samefagging on an anonymous board. Why don't you report this thread and ask a mod whether I was samefagging the other two posters?

One last comment:

>Classes are shit for learning language.

That's also fallacious reasoning regardless of how you derived this conclusion. You can neither prove nor disprove this statement, but I'm not going to hawk down on you for offending my philosophy, because I'm not out to change anybody's opinions on anything.

My opinion on classes is that when supplemented by conversation courses and lots of homework, it's a better way to learn a language than self-study.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467893
I'm not in 'merrica and I didn't even know you could take Japanese on high school. In any case, the classes haven't been bad so far, maybe a little slow but still way faster than I expected them.

And they've done wonders for my calligraphy. God damn it did I write like shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467904

forgot my pic

Brb, making fallacious statements to further infuriate you:

- black people cause crime
- colonialism is bad
- learning a new language in an organized class setting is superior to learning by yourself with absolutely no guidance
- you need a university education to secure a middle class life
- not everybody can "get" a language

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467904
>are you Daiz?
Daiz doesn't know Japanese, nor is he a translator. I didn't read your post and I don't know if you implied that, but I'm mostly correcting some other post from a while ago which did say it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467916
>>8467904

Proving how stupid you are doesn't mean anything. You've been proven wrong by credible sources, definitions , and you've lost. Conveniently ignoring posts is a sign of your resignation, unfortunately. See: >>8467853

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467904
>I didn't even know that. Yet here you are, accusing me of samefagging on an anonymous board. Why don't you report this thread and ask a mod whether I was samefagging the other two posters?
9/10.

[Anonymous No.]

>running the argument in circles until whoever he was arguing with has to leave due to having a life, and then flooding the thread with, "Oh yeah, he had no argument left. Ha ha what an idiot." messages

Next time, don't shit up my VN translation thread with shit nobody cares about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467938

doesn't matter it's autosaging anyway, just start another one

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467938

The person who started this thread has a trip. You've so desperate it's sickening. Ah, such is life for the loser.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467953

I didn't say I started the thread faggot. I said my VN thread as in something I have an intimate connection with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467953

Who are you arguing?

[Anonymous No.]

What's going on in this thread? .gif


Cat vershun

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467953

>samefag

Now you're the one making a statement about a few people in here being a collective samefag. The burden of proof lies on you to prove it.

Anyway, your argument

>When we are trying to learn new foreign words we are faced with sounds for which we may have absolutely no neural representation. A student trying to learn a foreign language may have few pre-existing neural structures to build on in order to remember the words

>Lots of exposure modifies the brain in a way to output properly.

All it tells us is that the brain adapts to languages. It doesn't describe the extent of the adaptation, which I believe was the original argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8467997

>The burden of proof lies on you to prove it.

You can't prove samefaggedness unless you're a mod. Samefag accusations are dumb in the first place, stop it.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ - Language Culture

まあいいや、ギャルゲー続けう
みんなゆっくりしてってね

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8Sn-Xx2__E


Also to contribute to the thread, I believe that anybody can become fluent at a language if they work at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8468018

misspelled it there

>ギャルゲー続けよう

[Anonymous No.]

FUCK ALL OF YOU

THE THREAD IS ON AUTOSAGE ON FUCKING TUESDAY! WHAT THE FUCK AM I GOING TO DO THE REST OF THE WEEK???

FUCK YOU! SERIOUSLY FUCK YOU! ,.I.. >_> ..I.,

[Anonymous No.]

>>8468050

Is it just me, or are these threads getting stealth hijacked? I thought /jp/ generals were generally safe from the usual shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8468064
>stealth

[Anonymous No.]

>>8468050
How new are you?

[Anonymous No.]

Wow, way to shit on the thread, autists.