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Who is the most powerful touhou?

>> No.8440563

Cirno.
Just nobody realizes it.

>> No.8440569

There isn't one. It's kind of like Magic: the Gathering in that you say OMG THIS IS THE MOST POWERFUL CARD EVER! then some other card can counter it, then some card can cancel that, and so on.
Maybe like Yukari or Yuyuko or Kaguya. Though I'm probably overlooking a few of them.

>> No.8440571
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>> No.8440568
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This topic is silly. Let's just post Yuuka and Yukari being mature ladies.

>> No.8440572

>>8440569
black lotus?

>> No.8440587
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>>8440572
Black Lotus isn't even that "powerful". I mean look at something like Dark Ritual which is similar.
It can just be abused easily because they had no idea what they were doing back then. That's why it's not tournament legal and why it's so rare, and thus very expensive.
Plenty of modern cards can be abused in the same way too. Like there are infinite damage combos out there, even now.

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People always saying weird things about yuuka

>> No.8440608

>>8440572
Time Walk >>>>> Lotus

>> No.8440615
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>>8440608
>>8440587
>>8440572
>>8440569
Get a load of these nerds!

>> No.8440622

>>8440615

If you have 10 mana and get Progenitus out, you are still one or two turns from victory.

That late in the game, your opponent should have bit your head off by now.

>> No.8440620

>>8440587
If there weren't so many moveable parts, none of this would happen.

Also they wouldn't have any money.

>> No.8440625
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You fools! You are corrupting my power level thread with your talk of playing cards!

Begone, all of you!

>> No.8440626

>>8440615
This is what I love about Magic: the Gathering newbies. They see a 12/12 with ZOMG PROTECTION FROM EVERYTHING and they have an orgasm over how "powerful" it is.

PROTIP: That card sucks.

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>>8440625
> playing cards
It's called Magic: The Gathering, dad.

>> No.8440635

>>8440626
>>8440622
Who the hell would summon that with mana?

>> No.8440634

>>8440630
Aren't you a bit old to be playing children's games, son?

Come, sit with me. Lets watch football.

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>>8440635
Forgot pic

>> No.8440654

I get the impression that lots of /jp/ posters also post on /tg/.

Also, I almost wish that I had spent some time in High School with the nerds who spent their free periods playing Magic in the commons. They looked like they were having fun.

But it's not I could just walk up to strangers, so it couldn't be helped I guess.

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>>8440560

>> No.8440660

>>8440639

Good luck getting it out with Proteus Staff (time to dig through my entire deck!) or Elvish Piper (1/1 lol).

>> No.8440664
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Nazrin.
Nobody will ever see it coming. Ever.

>> No.8440670

>>8440569
JtMS.

Jace is so hideously overpowered that the person who designed it should not only fired on the spot but also forbidden from holding employment ever again.

>> No.8440678
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hardcasting proteus is pointless when you could hardcast an eldrazi much easier

>> No.8440679

>>8440670

Mythic Rare Planeswalker.

Should be restricted to 1 per deck, still, but it's not "play this card and the game is over" level.

>> No.8440681

>>8440670
And yes, I am aware that more overpowered crap exists, but it doesn't exist in Standard.

>> No.8440688

>>8440679
Cards don't have to be "play this and you win the game, automatically, forever" to be hideously overpowered. You could gain 100 life for W and the game wouldn't be over. You'd just be winning. By a lot.

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>>8440678

Why hardcast one Titan when you can hardcast all 3?

And a fuckton of eldrazi buffs for them.

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>>8440688

>You could gain 100 life for W and the game wouldn't be over.

That is entirely situational.

>> No.8440708

>>8440660
That works too, but I use Proteus because Progenitus is the only creature in the deck. It only fails on me if I get to actually draw him, but that only causes delays.

>> No.8440711

>>8440708
how can you use proteus cast to summon prognitor if it's the only creature in your deck

>> No.8440713

>>8440698
I need a card that does that but only if you're at an absurdly negative amount of life or positive amount of poison.

>> No.8440718
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Tell me /jp/, where did you learn about Magic cards.

Were you guys the same nerds who used to sit in the corner of the commons during free periods talking about nerd things when I was sitting by myself in the library?

>> No.8440719

>>8440711
Instant generated uhmm... chips? I don't recall how you call them.

>> No.8440725

>>8440654
In the year or so when /tg/ existed but /jp/ didn't, there was a lot of Touhou discussion on /tg/. In fact that's what later led to me visiting /jp/. I was never really a part of `pre-split' /a/ (I'd given up on /a/ long before then).

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>>8440718
Yes, pretty much.

>> No.8440788

>>8440718
Yeah, dude. You missed a lot.
We'd still accept you though!

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>>8440713
Wish granted.

>> No.8440844

>>8440832
+ Necropotence.

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>>8440711
>>8440719
You use non-creature cards that can turn into creatures or create creature tokens.

eg pic related

>> No.8440979

>>8440912
Yeah, tokens. Thank you.
I'm not familiar with the English version of the game.
Anyways, it's been a while since the last time I played too.

>> No.8441014

>>8440635
>>8440626
Both of you guys are right. Power creatures are usually gimmicky in the sense that you need to build a setup around them. Proteus used to work. Also you always have ramping, there are tons of ways. I was pretty succesful using Shape Anew to sacrifice an artefact in order to bring out Blightsteel Collosus. I used it in FNM twice, both times got 2/3 victories.

Sadly I couldn't bring it into standard again because preordain was amazing. Oh well, it's still the deck I enjoyed the most. Here's a link to it if anyone wants to take a peek : http://deckbox.org/sets/88740

Now I'm toying with tempered steel. I can't believe I STILL haven't finished it yet, got beaten by some dumb nigger using wolf ramp ...

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>> No.8441304

I loved Paradise Mantle.

>> No.8441355
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>>8441304
meh

>> No.8441356

>>8441299

This shit's banned, right?

>> No.8441390

>>8441356
It's three pieces with many ways to blow it up in a powerful format. If you have any answers in your deck to anything it won't go off.

>> No.8441985

I stopped playing MtG three months after Legion came out. So much money down the drain. The only thing that I have that reminds me of those days is a set of Lotus Petals.

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>>8441985
damn casuals

>> No.8444963

>>8441356
Perfectly legal, or at least it was.
It's a pretty weak infinite mana combo, honestly. There are plenty of them.
New age M:TG is fucking retarded.

>> No.8444986

This is going to turn into one of those threads were custom touhou magic cards are posted by people who have never played magic or are just awful at it.

Those threads make me sad.

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>>8444986
Lets not waste one more second then!

>> No.8445033

>>8441390
That should be rather powerful in modern, no?
Maybe not on Legacy, but still. It's a third turn win.

>> No.8445072

>>8445033
every modern deck is a combo deck.

I miss my 12post deck ;_;

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>>8445033
Paradise mantle is already legacy.

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This is, apparently, what 2Chan thinks.

>> No.8445103

>>8445027
That's.. actually 7 mana for a 6/6 flying prored, assuming she has the typical creature sunburst, which is usually used in decks with artifact mana. Could bring her even higher with all five colors.
Not like I would ever even dream of sacrificing my waifu but that's actually not that horrible of a card, you could lock the other person down entirely if they aren't generating all their mana through artifacts. Pretty late, though. There are other options that do the same thing faster. Seven mana to blow up all lands is pretty poor. Artifact control ain't bad though, but again she's too expensive to play in the current M:TG state.
Why she has white on her I do not know.

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>>8445075
Are you sure?

>> No.8445109

>>8445079
How the hell did science reimu rank so high?

>> No.8445113

>>8445033
It's a third turn win that requires you to draw three specific cards in a format without any good cantrips, and any creature, enchantment or artifact removal makes the other cards useless.

No, that combo is not good.

>>8445075
Legacy and vintage are every set ever, they just have very different ban lists.

>> No.8445114

>>8445109
Probably for the same reason Kaguya is above Eiki, and Remilia is above Flandre.

>> No.8445117

>>8445109

main character

>> No.8445126

>>8445075
They already made that card its called veil of secrecy and its blue and from the weeaboo sets. (though shadow was unblockable which is better anyway because the only reason you'd give an opponents creature shadow is to stop it from blocking and or kill it with a dauthi assassin)

>> No.8445122

>>8445109
>Fantasy Heaven
>Her secret technique is Fantasy Heaven (夢想天生 Musou Tensei), which is extreme in many ways. With it, she is able to float in midair while invulnerable, and if this is not just play (in which case there would be a time limit to this), nobody would be able to win against her. From the explanation of this spell card, one would thus know that attacks against Reimu would then not hit at all, and is thus of a resistance type. It is probably because of this move that when ZUN was asked, "who is the strongest in Gensokyo," he answered, "isn't it Reimu?" (said before Mountain of Faith was released). He said in the same talkshow that it had something to do with DNA (デオキシリボ核酸). In The Grimoire of Marisa, it was stated that when Reimu uses "Fantasy Heaven", she goes into a half-transparent state with eyes closed, automatically shooting danmaku. Originally, it was not a spell, but Marisa playfully added a name to it. Otherwise, there is no chance of winning. ZUN himself has hinted that it is a parody of Kenshiro's Musou Tensei (無想転生), which means "blank mind reincarnation," and if Reimu ever meets another with the same ability, then the meaning of danmaku would then be lost and it would be then become a graceful fist-fight.
Taken from touhouwiki.

>> No.8445133

>>8445079
>Tsuchinoko above Wriggle and Fairies.
What the fuck it doesn't even do anything.

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>> No.8445173

>>8445079
Mokou that low? Really?

>> No.8445186

>>8445173
Probably because she relies on her immortality to wear people out.

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>> No.8445212

>>8445103
That card was made in a commander trolling thread.

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>> No.8445231

>>8445193
Fuck yeah, I was trying to remember this combo.

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>> No.8445270

>>8445257
Un* was goddamn awesome.

>> No.8445291

>>8445257
This is what I love about mtg
So many hilarious cards.

>> No.8445305

>>8445291
Flavor text is great too, even for non-parody cards.

"Sorry I burned down your village. Here's some gold."
"Oglor create life, Oglor take it away. Oglor god! ...until Master return."

>> No.8445371

Two card combos are boring.

Decks like TES and spiral tide are more interesting.

>> No.8445374

>>8445305
Oglor's always reminds me of this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Life_with_Master

/jp/ would probably enjoy that system.

>> No.8445412

>>8445305
I know right?I could read these all day.
My two favourte cards are a certain shapeshifter card which can be ANYTHING and a card wich is called frizzled editor I think.
Another great card is the one where you have to rhyme all the time.

>> No.8445433

>>8445412
Atlinlay Igpay

>> No.8445436

>>8445374
But that's not FATAL.

>> No.8445460

>>8445436
No one enjoys FATAL

>> No.8445465

>>8445079

I could ignore some shit like Sanae and Nue and Iku being so low and I could almost ignore how the Three Fairies got separated by two tiers and one total non-magical character in Renko, but

>Remilia above Flandre
>Remilia above Shinki, Utsuho, Yuuka, Tenshi, and all three Devas
>Remilia, after all that, below Yumemi
>...
>Fuckin' EVERYONE below Yumemi

What the fuck, seriously.

>> No.8445485

>>8445460
I liked the little comic about that one ogre race of which entire gimmick was that they fed exclusively on children. Kinder-Fresser, I think they were.

Little girl, little girl, open the door!

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>>8445465

>> No.8445502
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>>8445485
Oh the sourcebooks hilarious, the game just isn't when played.

On an unrelated note.

>> No.8445881

>>8445502
A shame, really. Those ridiculously offensive racist transformation items were hilarious, especially the one that turns you into an African tribesman. In FATAL world, black people apparently have glowing eyes that can be seen from 3 miles.

>> No.8446172

>Good thread about Touhou
>Ruined by a gay neckbeard card game that doesn't even come from Japan

Read the board title, then kindly kill yourselves. Reported all of your posts for shitposting.

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>>8446172
>Good thread about Touhou
Funny guy

>> No.8447133

>>8445079

is this a troll?
>>8445486
that's better

>> No.8447135

>>8446172
who gives a shit reported

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the game ect

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>>8445075
It can be played in the new Modern format which is just slightly less powerful.

But really, let's just say today's Magic is downright retarded and leave it at that.

>> No.8447184

>>8445079
That list is made out of horse crack and cat shit. And I'm not talking about the good kind.

>> No.8447202

>>8447152
I do kinda wonder whats down there. As a 20/20, that thing is more powerful than a few gods.

>> No.8447210

>>8447202
Don't think too hard about it, fluff and gameplay belong in separate contexts.

>> No.8447207
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>>8447202
Exactly what it says on the tin.

>> No.8447223

>>8447207
Does that mean Cthulhu in the common tongue?

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My first and favorite johnny deck. Very simply countered but not often prepared for since donate decks haven't been popular since necropotence.

>> No.8447324

>>8447223
Well, something like that. If you crossed Marit Lage and Yawgmoth you'd get something close.

>> No.8447749

>>8445371
>>8441355

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>>8447152
>let's just say today's Magic is downright retarded and leave it at that
I completely agree with that statement.

Fucking planeswalkers!

>> No.8447939

>>8447152
I disagree. Creature quality is finally going up after so long.

>> No.8447954

>>8447939
20/20 indestructible is pretty good, yeah.

Also Tarmogoyf was printed, all statements about creatures getting more powerful are invalid. Unless they released something hideously overpowered in the last block I'm not aware of, I haven't been following.

>> No.8447972

>>8446172
Wow get a load of this newfriend.
Also stop greentexting like a retard

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>> No.8448155

>>8448132
So you get to look at the top 3 cards infinitely and rearrange them, and it takes 2 cares to do it.

Well thats just so cool.

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>> No.8448189

>>8448159
13 of two colors of mana for the possibility of two 1/1s. You would be dead before you had half of that.

>> No.8448197

>>8448189
>>8448155
you are bad at this game.

>> No.8448215
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>>8448159
>play a creature card
>it gets damaged by the bolt
now here 3 things can happen
a)if the creture you played is a */1:
>it gets 1 damage assigned to it
>gets one -1/-1 counter instead of the damage
enchantment asks if you want to activate it, if you do, continue
>a 1/1 green elf get put on the stack to be played
>first creature gets sent to graveyard
>elf goes to play
>it gets 1 damage assigned to it
>gets one -1/-1 counter instead of the damage
enchantment asks if you want to activate it, if you do, continue
>a 1/1 green elf get put on the stack to be played
>first elf gets sent to graveyard
ad infinitum

b)if the creture you played is a */2:
>it gets 2 damage assigned to it
>gets 2 -1/-1 counter instead of the damage
enchantment asks TWICE if you want to activate it , if you do, continue
>a 1/1 green elf get put on the stack to be played for each time you activated it
>first creature gets sent to graveyard
>elf goes to play for each time you activated it
>each one gets 1 damage assigned to it
>each one gets one -1/-1 counter instead of the damage
enchantment asks if you want to activate it for each elf, if you do, continue
>a 1/1 green elf get put on the stack to be played for each time you activated
>first round of elves gets sent to graveyard
ad infinitum

>>>/rs/field too long continued next post

>> No.8448219

>>8448197
Yeah, I must be bad for not putting in worthlessly bloated combos that have little to no effect.

>> No.8448220

>>8448159
I don't get it, won't you just be forcing a stalemate at best?

>> No.8448225
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c)if the creture you played is a */3+:
>it gets 2 damage assigned to it
>gets 2 -1/-1 counter instead of the damage
enchantment asks TWICE if you want to activate it , if you do, continue
>a 1/1 green elf get put on the stack to be played for each time you activated it
>first creature stays with 2 -1/-1 counters
>elf goes to play for each time you activated it
>each one gets 1 damage assigned to it
>each one gets one -1/-1 counter instead of the damage
enchantment asks if you want to activate it for each elf, if you do, continue
>a 1/1 green elf get put on the stack to be played for each time you activated
>first round of elves gets sent to graveyard
ad infinitum

tl;dr all the elves die unless you have another global enchantment that gives elves or all creatures you control +2/+2.

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>>8448219
>>8448155
You don't know what "storm" does, do you?

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>>8448215
>>8448225
I really hope you are posting copy pasta and I hope you didnt write it but you hare having to post this because of how many times you were made a cool out of.

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>>8448230
I am cool like that.

>> No.8448238

Perhaps no one ever told you, all your army that comes out, dies instantly. Your red card doesn't ask you if you want to activate it.

If you thought you were going to have this big awesome army, you were mistaken, -1-1 counters kill monsters.

>> No.8448240

>>8448234
Were you casting that from? You just spent all your mana on the most retarded combo Ive ever seen.

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All your cards looks like shit.

>> No.8448260

>>8448243
Only a mama's boy needs 500 dollar cards. I could beat your pampered ass with commons.

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>>8448260

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>>8448240
I didn't post that combo image. I was merely explaining what happened if you tried to do it.

I'd rather use this< instead.

>> No.8448270

>>8448264
>>8448260
4 dolla combo

>> No.8448278

>>8448263
Well you didn't need to post all that. Its simple you can make an infinite number of dead counters. I could be wrong but counters dont go in to the graveyard, they evaporate so they couldn't even work as graveyard filler for an even longer and yet easier to break combo, probably requiring yet another color.

>> No.8448280

>>8448270
Since when did unglued cards have value?

>> No.8448289

>>8448280
Implying that you play only T2 and legacy, on tournaments, and with good results. Every combo posted in this thread is shit/illegal.
Yes, I implied on /jp/

>> No.8448291

>>8448280
Well they're cards just like everything else.

From what I remember the Unglued lands were actually widely sought after because they looked goddamn awesome and were tournament-legal.

>> No.8448299

>>8448289
I dont know anyone that would even allow unglued cards for a casual game. I dont even know anyone that would not be embarrassed for carrying them around.

>> No.8448313

>>8448278
They get assigned to the graveyard, they just never actually get to be in it.

>> No.8448314

>>8448299
Having an unglued card in your deck, is like using potions in a duel. Even nerds wont have anything to do with your sorry ass.

>> No.8448317

>>8448313
Thats about as useful as assigning a spell to the stack but it never actually hits the stack.

>> No.8448331

I downloaded MTG, duels of the planes walkers. Since I dont have any RL friends anymore that play MTG and I hate playing it online against faceless people. The only option I have is against the computer. If I get on unemployment next week im going to buy the full version.

It sucks because you cant really build your own decks but its not terrible.

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>>8448317
Well I'm just telling you how it works.
Blame the game not the player.
:/
Unglued cards aren't useful either but they still get printed.

>> No.8448339

>>8448332
I blame the player, the dumbass that posted that combo. I blame you for actually typing out how his fail combo doesnt work and unglued cards are meant as a joke.

>> No.8448353

>>8448331
Wanna play?

>> No.8448358 [SPOILER] 
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8448358

>>8448339
Here you go, bro.

>> No.8448363

>>8448353
Still only have the demo and I dont like it much currently. Ill reserve my final judgment when I can modify my white deck to suck less. The overall system is great but, those decks are crap by default.

>> No.8448385
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8448385

>>8448332
I like how they used this mechanic on real cards.

>> No.8448714
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8448714

>>8448385
That's not superhaste at all.

>> No.8449203

>>8448264
This doesn't work the way you think it does.

As far as magic is concerned "colourless" is not a colour, gleemax doesn't share a colour with anything so you can't discard anything to dream halls to pay the alternative cost.

>> No.8453009
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8453009

Nue and Mamizou are pretty powerful

>> No.8453027
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8453027

>>8448714
Who the fuck is that he thinks he can destroy my creatures. As if some fatass could kill anyone.

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8453118

This should have been posted earlier.

>> No.8453246

>>8453118
7 mana. meh. Nice art though.

>> No.8453275

Fuck you guys for making me want to play MTG again.

>> No.8454403

>>8453275
buy the duel of the planeswalkers 2012. It's really nice.

>> No.8455495
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8455495

>>8453009
You didn't pay one.

>> No.8455526

>>8453275
There is a new set coming out this weekend, you should go to a prerelease.

>> No.8455544
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8455544

>>8453275
DON'T DO IT!
There are better things to waste you money on, like the Vita, food, clothes, hot pockets, Over Twenty Pounds of *, etc.
This<.

>> No.8455582

>>8448714
It is with Fires Of Yavimaya out.

>> No.8455623

>>8448264
Doesn't work.

>> No.8455662
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8455662

Kanako.

She's a god, after all, and one that has been known to be strong enough to defeat at least one other god. She even has a living god as a servant.

She's alpha as fuck

>> No.8455671

>>8455544
Where does one get their hands on this?
My little brother would love this.

>> No.8455700

>>8440718
Played the new computer game. You can't play wrong with that and it saves the trouble of arranging the game and players. Cheap too and very addictive.

>> No.8455760

>>8445486
>shikieiki
>A tier
what? she's stronger than yukari and yuyuko combined.

>> No.8456372

>>8455760
Maybe it's danmaku power levels.

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