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8439608 No.8439608 [Reply] [Original]

RIP ;_;

>> No.8439623

Fucking Americans.

>> No.8439624

I was in the middle of downloading the Clannad PSP port when it happened. ;_;

>> No.8439622

I very much doubt anyone on /jp/ is so technically inept they use ``direct download'' websites.

>> No.8439627

http://popcrush.com/megaupload-countersuit-universal-music-group/

>The artists themselves listed other incentives to using MegaUpload. West called it “the fastest and safest way to send files,” while Snoop Dogg claims that “it keeps the kids off the street.”

>> No.8439630

All those files...

>> No.8439631

That's fucking bullshit man ;_;

>> No.8439639

>>8439635
Those are shit compared to MU.

>> No.8439635

Suck for those who paid for a life time account.
But who doesn't use fileserve/filesonic nowadays?

>> No.8439637

>>8439622
What is there to use when there's torrents with slow to no seeds? JDownloader automates the process.

>> No.8439646

>>8439635
>fileserve
Goes full retard when downloading consecutive files
>filesonic
wait 15 minutes between downloads
As a free user, MU was always the best option.

>> No.8439652

http://kalfisquine.com/blog/?page_id=1101

What will happen there? Wasn't he moving everything over to megaupload a few weeks ago?

>> No.8439653

>>8439646
I've always preferred Mediafire.

>> No.8439655

>>8439635
>fileserve/filesonic
I hope you're joking.

>> No.8439658

>>8439653
I would like MF if it wasn't for split files.
It's fucking inconvenient if you are used to watch while downloading.

>> No.8439659

>>8439646
>As a free user, MU was always the best option.
You mean Mediafire, obviously.

Either way this is pretty disheartening, I hope they don't target MF next. They really are the best option now.

>> No.8439661

Every other file sharing website's going to go down after this.

>> No.8439662

>>8439653
I had no preference between MF and MU. MU is was faster, but MF lets you download in parallel.

>> No.8439666
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8439666

MU was the best along with Mediafire. I'm assuming the latter is next.

>>8439627
And of course Snoop Dogg is correct.

>> No.8439667

Why did it go down?

>> No.8439674

Here's some details.

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2012/January/12-crm-074.html

>> No.8439675

>>8439667
land of the free took it down

>> No.8439678

>>8439646
>As a free user,

As a free user, -your opinion is irrelevant-. People who paid for the use of premium/platinum/whatever accounts are going to be extremely pissed off, and not everyone used Megaupload for pirating shit. I used it to transfer my ripped FLAC soundtracks from my old PC to my newer one early 2010, for instance.

>> No.8439679

>>8439652
Yeah this sucks.

>> No.8439682

Just great.

Fucking America.

>> No.8439686
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8439686

I fucking knew they removed the waiting time as a farewell gift.

>> No.8439683

>The indictment alleges that the criminal enterprise is led by Kim Dotcom, aka Kim Schmitz
It's actually true?

>> No.8439687 [DELETED] 

>The site was shut down by the FBI on January 19, 2012, during an investigation into alleged copyright infringement.

Thay can do that?

>> No.8439689

>>8439687
Obviously they can.

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>>8439666

>> No.8439696

>The site was shut down by the FBI on January 19, 2012, during an investigation into alleged copyright infringement.

They can do that?

>> No.8439697

Soon, this is going to be the entire internet.

Enjoy it while it lasts.

>> No.8439701

>>8439608
Yep it's official
http://twitter.com/BreakingNews
;___;

>> No.8439706

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCkI5I8vsBg
HAHHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.8439712

>>8439697
Going to download as much as I can while I can, and hope services like spotify/pandora/grooveshark open to my country.

>> No.8439714

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16642369

>> No.8439715

Wait, so they were hosted in the U.S.? Why?

>> No.8439720

>>8439696
Well, yeah, it was breaking the law...?

>> No.8439730

>>8439720
copyright law is a civil offense not a criminal one.

>> No.8439731

Serious question. If for example, it became impossible to obtain filez, would otakudom be jeopardized? Can we still just buy everything that we used to download, or is there content that's actually not available commercially anymore?

>> No.8439725

I wonder what I'll be doing now if this expands to the whole of the internet. The internet is my only source of joy and if it dies I think I can kill myself.

>> No.8439727

Just another step towards a total darknet.

Enjoy your illusion of control while it lasts, America.

>> No.8439735

Wow, I wonder if I'm going to be thinking to this day five years from now every time I see a download link going to Megaupload without any mirrors. Fuck.

>> No.8439737

>>8439731
It would still be possible to order stuff, yes. However, that would require getting a job.

Or autism bucks if you aren't in America.

>> No.8439742

Anything but mediafire or Megaupload( down ;_; ) is going to be outrageous to use, specially for the music when in a good day you can get and listen to +20 albums, what good alternatives remain?
Because if they can take down MU they can take MF twice faster.

>> No.8439740

>>8439731
>buy everything that we used to downloa
Doing that requires a job, once you get a job and have to work for your hard earned money you no longer want to spend it on otaku shit and slowly over time become normal.

>> No.8439741

>>8439725
There's still usenet, pd, torrents, usenet.
Although admittedly the latter half isn't that safe.
Don't do it just yet.

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8439747

Oh no guys! What are we going to do now VNDDL's lost all it's stuff!

>> No.8439750

>>8439731
Good luck purchasing fansubs and fan translations.

>> No.8439746

>>8439731
No, not everything can be purchased anymore.

But that's irrelevant. This is only an annoyance. They can't stop us.

>> No.8439757

>>8439731
there will always be the sneaker net

but then you'd have to get your ass out of the house

>> No.8439758

>>8439751
Apparently, I mistyped usenet twice.
I meant usenet, pd, torrents, share.

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8439751

>>8439741

>usenet isn't that safe

>> No.8439752

>>8439715
Who knows? They would've been better off having their servers in China or Russia.

>> No.8439755
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8439755

Don't worry guys... There's still Rapidshare lololol...

>> No.8439765

>>8439750

I would'nt've asked if commercial alternatives were available if I couldn't read Japanese. As long as I can still buy shit, it should be alright.

Afterall, the hobbyists with the highest of the powerlevels actually buy the BDs right?

>> No.8439766

>http://vnddl.webs.com/list.txt
;_;

>> No.8439759

If the US government can't prove that I used my megaupload premium account to download illegal/copyrighted stuff, it owes me about 200$

>> No.8439768

>>8439759
Good luck with that, sincerly.

>> No.8439769

>>8439755
Rapidshare's actually quite good these days.

>> No.8439773

>>8439769
If you think that downloading files at 100-200 kbs is good.

>> No.8439774

I predict a sudden resurgence in torrents in the coming weeks.

>> No.8439775

>>8439765
>I would'nt've asked if commercial alternatives were available if I couldn't read Japanese
You would be surprised.
Anyway, it's still very expensive to import, so you certainly wouldn't be able to keep up at the same pace. But then you'd be working too so the lack of free time would make up for it somewhat.

>> No.8439776

>>8439773

What are you talking about? I always get full speed.

>> No.8439778

>>8439774
Torrents lost popularity? The only time I ever used any kind of file sharing site was for eromanga.

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8439780

>>8439773
it's not quite that bad

>> No.8439782

>>8439776
>>8439780
Well, the last time I used it, it was slow.

>> No.8439795

>>8439775

I know, it would be an inconvenience. I ordered 20 LNs from Amazon Japan, and I had to pay $60 for shipping and duties.

Shit sucks.

>>8439774

I always imagined that torrent has been more popular than DDL for quite some time already.

>> No.8439792

>>8439780
Not him, but I've never got more than 150kb/s with rapidshare, 50kb/s with fileserve and 100kb/s with filesonic. Mediafire maxes my connection with multiple downloads and Megupload maxed it with a single one, though.

>> No.8439793

Well, shit. And they were getting so generous lately, too.
I just hope this doesn't happen to the only other good file sharing service left, Mediafire. brb, downloading everything I've always wanted to download but forgot to.

>> No.8439801

RIP vnddl

>> No.8439802

>>8439759
Oh wow, I feel bad for people who recently paid for a 2 years premium account. I don't think they were well prepared for this kind of "accident".

>> No.8439804

>>8439795
And if you ordered from anyone overseas who wasn't Amazon.jp, shipping would've been a lot more for comparable speed.

>> No.8439809

>>8439802
This sort of situation is exactly why I never paid for a premium account on any of those sites.

>> No.8439815

>>8439731
There's stuff like Tsukihime that has been released a long time ago and is only available on auctions for ludicrous prices, for one. Honestly though, we will never go to that point. As our freedom is restricted more and more and the witch hunt gets more intense, more people will start using stuff like VPN services to cover up their tracks.

Overall though, fuck this shit. Copyright law for some reason seems to be the area of law/morality where people think it's a-okay to restrict people's actions, privacy, etc. just because oh noes, someone got something for free without hurting anyone, even though they might have had the money to buy it. Megaupload is great, and obviously a lot of people use it for piracy, but I'm an artist and I've used it to transfer large files and large collections of files of stuff I've created. People use this kind of stuff for legit, self-created things a lot. Millions of artists, musicians, aspiring film-makers and so on, or just normal people giving a bunch of family photos for an uncle or whatnot... but of course you wouldn't care for those people, the record company bosses only have 13 vacation villas and the latest one doesn't even have a swimming pool, let's take this very useful service down because some people use it for piracy.

Well, better use Multiupload, because whatever you take a liking to next will probably be the next to go. And yes, I'm mad as hell.

>> No.8439817

But...But...Yesterday I decide that I was going to download everything from vnddl.
What am I supposed to do now?

>> No.8439825

Fucking America. Goddamn I'm starting to hate my country.

>> No.8439826

>>8439822

I pay for a seedbox AND usenet. Come at me with your cock, dude.

>> No.8439822

You have to have something wrong with your head if you pay for better pirating anyway.

>> No.8439830

>>8439792
For me mediafire is the slowest for some reason. Shit sucks.

>> No.8439829

Mass faggotry again from the 'land of the free'

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>>8439822
I pay for usenet and I will probably pay for a VPN in the near future.

>> No.8439839

Wait why did this happen? Is it because the people behind sopha are buthurt about losing? what the fuck is wrong with them? why cant they leave us alone?

>> No.8439844

>>8439839
They will never leave us alone.

>> No.8439841

>>8439830
Probably your ISP throttling you as per their ``Fair Use Policy''.

>> No.8439842

Wasn't MU in Hong Kong? How did America get there?

>> No.8439843

Well that explains why MU was so much faster than everything else, it was hosted in the US. I only get like 250-500 KB/s tops from other places, MU was always 1.2-2 MB/s

>> No.8439847

>>8439839
Just wait until sopa passes. It'll be even better.

>> No.8439848

Anyone got the latest link to the ftp? I just got a new harddrive and need to prepare for the worst.

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>>8439825
Starting to? I started hating America before it was even cool to do so.

>> No.8439852

Megaupload devs are rich beyond everything (or they can't pay anymore all their users), so they use that sopa thing to close.

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8439853

thank u america
they lived in NZ and were sent to the USA to be excecuted..

>> No.8439854

I can't help but think that this was terrible timing on the part of the authorities. Right now SOPA and PIPA are fresh on everyone's minds.

>> No.8439861

>>8439839
>why cant they leave us alone?
That's not a nice thing to say, we do care for you, potential customer.

Now you will pay in full for all those lost sales.

>> No.8439857

Oh man I JUST found that link to the site with a shitload of VNs and ALL of it was on MU. Worthless now. Fuck.

>> No.8439859

>>8439842
>megaupload ip
>174.140.154.24
servers are in america

>> No.8439867

Pouring out some liquor for my niggas at Megaupload. Stay up Kim.

>> No.8439870

>>8439852
>>8439852
>>8439852
>>8439852
>>8439852
>>8439852

>Megaupload devs are rich beyond everything (or they can't pay anymore all their users), so they use that sopa thing to close.


This is what's called an 「アメリカンジョーク」in Japan.

>> No.8439871

Sooo... What happens to people who used MU frequently? I don't trust the Jews running your entertainment industry, America.

>> No.8439873

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND ALL THAT IS HOLY MEDIAFIRE MAKE MIRROR SITES!!!

All those obscure doujin albums gone...

>> No.8439875

>>8439861
No, im not gonna by your shit unless less its free, so fuck you. the internet was the only place were people didnt need money or anything else to be happy and now they are fucking it up because they are moral faggots and have everything they could want in the real world, so they want to ruin all the lower classes life even more.

>> No.8439878

>>8439871
I am pretty fucked, I pretty much use it for all my anime. I now have to fall back on torrents or IRC. Or whatever other file upload site people run to now that MU is down.

>> No.8439877

>>8439873
exactly
In a few years from now, people will be looking for C81 stuff, see dead torrents and mf links. But mf will be dead.

>> No.8439886

Wow, what faggots, are these the same people as the sopa assholes? they cant do this to torrents right?

>> No.8439888

In the long run, it's not a big deal for the average /jp/ user.

The VN community can always turn to torrents, and I'm sure American corporations don't care about something as niche as the VN market.

Same shit with doujin work. Doujin artists usually disregard copyright, but Comiket has been up and running for years because it's good for the economy.

Both markets are well protected from the greedy hands of media corporations. It sucks for people who used MU to download AMERICAN POP CULTURE, but since that doesn't apply to 99% of /jp/, it's totally fine.

>> No.8439892

>>8439674
>>conspiracy to commit money laundering
I lol'd

>> No.8439896

>>8439886
It is technically impossible to do this to torrents. Individual .torrent hosting sites, yes, but not to the protocol.

>> No.8439897

Why does it feel like we are going DOWN in life instead of up? Why are these people so fucking old school? why do they even care?

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8439905

So, when they close down all these sites and still aren't making more money, what will happen?

>> No.8439914

When all the old men die out, do you guys think life will be better?

>> No.8439909

>>8439897
Baby boomers, they're ruining it for everyone before their hearts kick out.

>> No.8439911

Even if every torrent site in existence were taken down, we could just trade magnet links in txt files.

>> No.8439912

>>8439886

The only way torrent could be shut down is if ISPs are forced to block torrent. If for example, your favorite torrent site gets DNS blocked, you can get the magnet link off the mirrors and torrent whatever shit you want.

For example if nyaa goes down for maintenance, just go to tokyo toshokan and grab the magnet links.

>>8439905

I think you're implying that they're doing this for the money.

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8439915

holy HELL
http://tentaclenoises.co.uk/C81/
has a lot of cleanin up to do xD

>> No.8439916

>>8439905
They will go into denial and imagine they are making more money to boost their ego.

>> No.8439924

>>8439915
Oh fuck I forgot about this.

Sucks to be you, guy. Use MediaFire next time. Or direct downloads if you have the bandwidth.

>> No.8439919

>>8439905
Doesn't matter. They're already pulling in record profits, and that hasn't stopped them.

>> No.8439929

>>8439915
Goddamnit.

>> No.8439925

>>8439897
You don't seem to understand. They want everything they can possibly get their hands on, it's called greed.

They will never stop, even though they already have everything they could possibly ever need in life, they will never stop until they are the nobles and we are the plebs.

>> No.8439927
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8439927

Internet is the only place where communist theory is actually put to practice. Of course the capital will try to strike it down.

You see all this anti-SOPA/PIPA ruckus? This is class struggle.

>> No.8439937

People keep posting links to stuff that I didn't get to downloading makes me all the more depressed. Please tell me this won't be permanent.

>> No.8439933

>>8439915
Sweet Jesus.

>> No.8439935

Alright, torrents are better anyway. So guys at least torrents will be safe for another 10-15 years i guess. I just hope these same shitheads dont go on a deletion parade and go delete any direct download and torrent site. serious they should go fuck off. Also is bitgamer safe? Im guessing the government wouldn't know about it hopefully.

>> No.8439940

>>8439896
ISPs COULD block all the bittorrent traffic, but I don't think that it's going to be anytime soon
(although some ISPs are already shaping the bittorrent traffic)

>> No.8439942

You guys do know that magnet links make you download the torrent file over the torrent distributed hash table, right?
The real problem with torrents is the lack of encryption (meaning you have little safety), something that PD has solved at the expense of slower speeds, and Usenet has solved at the expense of more money.

>> No.8439943

and people call me crazy for wanting to make everything I want local.

>> No.8439950

>>8439927
fuck these shitheads i just dont understand why they even care, they got their fucking money, leave the internet fucking alone, its not in there power to control it, its a whole other universe they are not fucking god. I hope when they die out, we will fucking be a bit smarter than this.

>> No.8439951

>>8439940
They can only do that if you don't use encryption.

>> No.8439961

>>8439935
10-15 years? That's way too optimistic. They still have to go to court, so if the US Gov't wins their case (95% success rate), it should be a precedent that'll allow them to go after smaller DDL sites and possibly torrent hosts.
This is all conjecture, of course.

>> No.8439958

>>8439652
Actually, I only uploaded to MU. Not really sure what I'll do yet, with MF's file limit (I'm not a fan of parted rars). It's pretty troubling.

>> No.8439965

We can always hope for a Pirate Bay style revival, right?

>> No.8439963

>>8439942

Please tell me more about usenet. Torrent has a very active scene, but is there as much content with usenet? Or can I access torrent files with usenet?

>> No.8439964

How dumb do you have to be to have your servers located in America anyway.

>> No.8439968

>>8439965
The owner of megaupload has been arrested by the police.

>> No.8439969

>>8439963
Usually, everything that is released on torrent sites are also uploaded to usenet. Not everything mind you, but a fair amount.

I pay $11/mo for unlimited ssl encrypted access with Astroweb.

>> No.8439973

>>8439968
Yeah they have this thing called, due process, where you get a jury trial. And one juror who actually used Megaupload and liked it could derail the entire case.

>> No.8439978

These people must die. I haven't used megaupload for ages, but this pisses me off to no end.
People who can't even use the internet are commanding some faggots to take down websites. I don't know the actual level of retardation in the current western society, but this should be alarming.

>> No.8439976

>>8439963
Well, Usenet is actually a protocol.
It allows people to exchange messages and data.
However, you probably need to pay for a Usenet provider.
There's lots of quality content uploaded by people.

>> No.8439980

>>8439976
How about the more obscure /jp/ related content? Is Usenet good for that?

>> No.8439981

>>8439963
there's much more /jp/ related content on bittorrent
Usually subs from famous fansubs are available on the usenet between 1-5 days after the initial release for example
doujins/VNs are almost inexistent

>> No.8439982

>>8439624

You aren't missing anything. All those PSP ports are fucking terrible.

Extremely small text.
PC menus don't work on PSP.
Graphical errors.

>> No.8439987

>>8439980
no
mu/mediafire were/are good for that

>> No.8439988

>>8439976
couldn't there be free usenets in the future with all this bullshit going on? Also why didnt they just say that it not there fault that the people were uploading shit? how the fuck did they get somebody in fucking Sweden to go to america?

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8439989

You all know who's responsible, right?

>> No.8439990

>>8439980
For /jp/ related content, probably no such luck.
You should rather try PD and Share.
As for Anime, Manga, mainstream music, western porn and such, it's rather good.
I do not actually use usenet myself for that reason, actually.

>> No.8439991

>>8439963
Go here and search, see if the content you want uploaded to make up your mind.

http://www.binsearch.info/

>> No.8439993

Hmm. Looks like it's time to download all the doujin fighters I can and Adobe AfterEffects before the ball really gets rolling.

There has to be something going on behind the scenes that's causing all this. Measures like SOPA and PIPA are a sort of annual occurence to my understanding, but the scale they're being paid attention to, and certainly the busting of Megaupload, is not. I hate sounding irrational, but I have a bad feeling about this.

>> No.8439999

>>8439982
Well, I actually meant the official Japanese Key release, not the port of the English PC version.

I eventually found a torrent with a few seeds, though it was a lot more difficult than I would have expected. I'd forgotten how much sites like MegaUpload had spoiled me. Sad times, indeed.

>> No.8440000

>>8439964

Business decision that made them #1 in filehosting.

>> No.8440007

>>8439993
Why the fuck is this happening anyway? Are all the old men going mad because of the economic crisis, so they are blaming it on the web? Why cant some of the younger people fucking get some balls and yell at them? Also why does the fucking south ALWAYS seem to want to start shit? is it because they are all fucking Christians?

>> No.8440012

Hey guys, what if they shut down 4chan for copyright infringement?
There's lots of space for them to make such claims here.
I'm scared.
I don't want to lose /jp/.
Even though it's rather lost already.
I'll probably be around two weeks chan and talk.masked if that happens. See you guys.

>> No.8440011

>>8439976
>>8439969
>>8439981
>>8439990
>>8439991

Thanks guys. Looks like I'll migrate over to usenet, they seem to have a fair amount of /jp/ related content.

>> No.8440014

>bunbunmaru founder Jones Goldstein, and 4chan founder Christopher "moot" Poole were both marching arm in arm today at the 9th annual "Fighting Online Antisemitism" seminar in Tel Aviv, Israel. The seminar was blocked off to media but we got the opportunity to shortly speak to both Jones and Christopher Poole as they were leaving.
>"I have feared outing myself as a Jew for a long time. I have been afraid of the reaction from my supporters. I'm no longer afraid to admit I am Jewish. Online Antisemitism is no laughing matter and must be dealt with." said Mr. Poole. Before hoping in his cab Mr. Poole admitted he plans on moving to Jerusalem by years end. His new project canvas follows a strict anti-hate speech policy. By years end Mr. Poole has promised to implement a similar policy on his much more controversial site 4chan.
>"Antisemitism is a disease." said Mr. Jones as he rushed to his limo. "My grandfather died in the holocaust and these cowards have the audacity to claim it never happened online." Mr. Jones seemed angered and in no mood for further discussion.
>Not much is known about the topics of discussion at this years seminar but rumor has it one of the main topics of discussion was the IDF's efforts in building an online army of tolerance.

>> No.8440017

>>8439927
This is STATE power not bourgeois, fucking marxists.

>> No.8440019

So is that guy really gonna go to jail? what is america thinking? billions of people pirate everyday and they are gonna blame this guy? its really fucked up.

>> No.8440020

>>8440017
And guess who controls the state.

>> No.8440024

>>8440017
Who controls the state? The bourgeoisie.

>> No.8440026

>>8439927
Actually, this is what is commonly called "Anarchy".
And it's awesome.

>> No.8440021

>>8440012

We can use IRC

>>8440017

In America, the state and the corporate class are one and the same.

>> No.8440029

>>8439927

This is no fucking class struggle, it's just the elderly fucking around.

>> No.8440032

Wait, so i thought we were winning, do they even have the fucking balls to do something like this after all of america was ragging at them? How did the meteing go anyway? is sopa and whatever gone for good?

>> No.8440041

This is actually good for /jp/. All of this SOPA/PIPA/ACTA/BIG BROTHER government fiasco is the little spice that makes the average otaku's life a little more interesting.

>> No.8440043

>>8440021
>>8440020
>>8440024
The State can print money, they dont need the corporations, they can also close down corporations at will.
Think about it people would be more opposed to a corporation setting up an army, while the state already has one.

>> No.8440048

Why has nobody just said fuck you, you cant control the internet to these people?

>> No.8440044

>>8440041
Or just contributes to the depression.

>> No.8440045

>>8440032

"In the past 24 hours, Congressional attitude about SOPA/PIPA swung from 80/30 (for/against) to 65/102. One day of organized protest turned Congress completely on its head."

http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/

>> No.8440051

>>8440048
exactly who? Anonymous?

>> No.8440052

>>8440048
Yeah man, when the FBI contact your providers to shut down your hosting and then bust through your door and seize your servers, you just say, "FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!" and then they'll all run home crying and leave you alone.

>> No.8440059

>>8440048
By shutting down MU they've shown that they can control the internet.

>> No.8440060

>>8440043
What are you talking about? There's no such class as "the state". We don't live in an aristocracy anymore. It's rich people, who use the state for their own personal benefits.

>> No.8440061

It's funny because they think it will change anything.

Even if I didn't pirate things, I still wouldn't buy anything but the very minimum I needed for entertainment(which I do now). I can play StarCraft and fuck around with other free content all day, every day if needed and still be perfectly happy. If IP owners want money from their work, the market is going to have to change; free content and games are getting too powerful.

Actually, I'll admit there is one thing they could do that would hurt. The only thing that would really hurt is if it happens to porn. That's the only thing I couldn't replace with StarCraft or some other game+free content, and something tells me porn is rather(hypocritically) low on their priority list.

In the end, now less people will enjoy things and there won't be much increased money flow to the IP holders. Everybody wins! ... Wait, what? There's something wrong here, I wonder what it is.

>> No.8440056

>>8440045
fucking assholes, now that people know whats going on and are mad, they shut the fuck up and hide. I fucking hate these bastards, they change as soon as we get on their ass.

>> No.8440066
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8440066

>>8440017
Go back to your cave, retard. If you still think states are acting on their own volition- oh, wait, you do, let me hard even harder.

States control dick.

This is an issue of class against class. Maybe we aren't exactly classified as proletarians, bit we're still a class that is different from the people controlling SOPA and the FBI. We aren't going to act as anarchists. Anarchy plays on the board of the bourgeois, by acting individually and not collectively.
No, our salvation lies in collective work.

>> No.8440067

''Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.``
— Andrew S. Tanenbaum

>> No.8440068

>>8440052
I mean to the sopa/pipa people.
>>8440052
how can the america fbi even do something like that, hes not a american and is not in america. wouldn't they need to go through a lot of shit?

>> No.8440069

>>8440056
You'd rather they go through with it anyway like those 30 that are still for? Politicians have to look good in front of people, so of course they will mostly try to look like good guys.

>> No.8440070

>>8440061
It ceased to be about money a long time ago. Now it's about control.

>> No.8440079
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8440079

>>8440043
>people would be more opposed to a corporation setting up an army,
Full retard.
Corporations don't need to set up armies, they already use state armies. Look at Iraq and Libya.

>> No.8440081

Influence, reputation, prestige.
That's all these old geezers want.
Fucking retards. They'd never get it.
No, they wouldn't ever understand us.

>> No.8440082

>>8440061
They dont give a shit about money, they are just fucking old assholes who are bored with life and before they die, they want to ruin the life of everybody else for fun.

>> No.8440088

>>8440068

I think you should just shut up and do some more research. People like you is the reason why Occupy looks like its run by a bunch of uneducated kids.

>> No.8440085

>>8439993
I just assumed that publishers of all industries are permanently frustrated about the money they're supposed to be losing from piracy and always desperately trying to do whatever they can about it.

But I'm starting to get a little worried too. I assumed SOPA was just more of the same bullshit again at first, but people are being awfully dramatic this time around.

I wonder if it's a good idea to invest in a bunch of externals and download and store away every single eroge I want to play at some point, just in case I'll see the time they're literally unobtainable.

>> No.8440090

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>> No.8440092

>>8440085
As long as at least one person thinks like you, they won't ever be completely unobtainable.

>> No.8440105

>>8440070
Hmm, you're right. But I believe some people legitimately support it under market ideas. I wasn't referring just to politicians and the people in control of this entire circus.

>> No.8440097

>>8440070
>>8440082
You're half-right. It's always about money. However, to them, money is neither means nor end anymore, it has become like a whole different game.

>> No.8440101

>>8440085
>invest in a bunch of externals
And those prices are still not going down, great.

>> No.8440102

>>8440085
You can't even do that unless you wanna pay out the ass thanks to hard drive price hikes due to the flood in thailand a few months ago.

>> No.8440110

>>8440088
>(...)Occupy looks like its run by a bunch of uneducated kids.
it is.

>> No.8440119

>>8440092
Good luck getting to them, though. I'm going to store them in a bunker in the middle of Siberia.

>> No.8440128

>>8440102
It's like someone wants to destroy everything that makes our lives worth living, and these people are powerful enough to be able to create natural disasters at will.

>> No.8440147
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>>8440090
This concerns /jp/ too. Think about it. No matter how deep in the Web you go, there will be at least one person who will spread the word that this depth exists, letting normal people flood in and, eventually drawing the attention of the capital yet again. Even worse, the capital may be attracted first and in this case we won't have the broad support from the normals we have now.

>> No.8440159

>>8440085
>being awfully dramatic this time around.
Yes, and I'm of the mindset that things like this don't really happen randomly. Although I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist, it takes a lot to get the entire internet's attention over something(not to mention get organizations like Wikipedia to close their site) and this closing of Megaupload is awfully coincidental. Maybe there's not "someone in control," but it doesn't seem like coincidence.

Well, regardless, it seems Megaupload's fatal move was having servers in America, so there should still be some time before anything happens to sites based in other locales.

>> No.8440162

>>8440085
I figure these regulations are to prevent really big-scale sharing and releases of shit that are up the same day, sometimes even days before the official ones.
Not to downplay the gravity of the situation or anything, but I doubt they're going to care much about unlicensed japanese porn games

>> No.8440173

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIUxwEJ-GXI

>> No.8440180
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8440180

See, you guys are just plain stupid. These people hold no power over you at all.
I frequently conduct radio experiments in my household in clear violation of multiple FCC regulations that would land me in multiple fines that would each be larger than an average yearly salary. Do I care? No, because the only actual laws are those defined by physics, and even that is not as concrete as one might think.
Words hold no power over you, if they shut down the internet just switch to 20meter radioband and join the rest of us in our text chats.

There was something posted here a while ago about how a baby elephant will be tied a rope, and when they get older the same rope that they could easily break still binds them. For humans, that rope is applied in public school systems.
You can break that rope any time you wish. Remote detonated explosives are simple stuff and cheap to make at home. Go fuck with those who would with you as well. The only way they got away with this was ONLY by force. FBI busts in with guns and forces them into prison. Go shoot someone you don't like, or simply blow up a statehouse. I'm a pacifist as many of you are here as well, but I am not beyond fighting force with force. By being in clear disagreement with logic (as they have shown here and with attempted legislation), it's what they have to stoop down to and then criticize you for using.It's your right and DUTY as defined by the constitution to overthrow an unjust government.

>> No.8440188

Weren't there a whole bunch of older VNs that were only obtainable by Megaupload?

>> No.8440193

>>8440180
Sup Ted, how's Florence treating you?

>> No.8440196

>>8440159
This MU thing has probably been a long time coming. They got a bunch of popular rappers to make a video in praise of Megaupload. RIAA did not like this and issued a DMCA takedown, Megaupload had the balls to dispute it. In short they drew attention to themselves, thinking they were invincible.

>> No.8440201

>>8440180
Reported to the FBI/NSA/CIA/DIA/TF121/Office of The President for inciting terrorism. I hope you enjoy cockmeat sandwiches, they've got plenty of those in Guantanamo.

>> No.8440199
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>>8440159
You forget we live in the era of social networking. Everyone and their grandma (literally) have access to everything (again, literally) that is happening to the whole world (yet again, literally). facebook and twitter are (fortunately) used for more than uploading duckface pictures of yourself.

Now add the fact that 2011 has been a year full of protests that got massive coverage. And this time, people could actually see what protesters had to say, not through the edits of the Mass media, (friendly reminder that Fox News butchers everything to fit their needs) but by the protesters themselves. This is hardly the work of some conspiracy and this is why you see such sporadic and stressed movements from the capital.

>> No.8440206

>>8440193
My name isn't Ted but you make me curious. Who is this ted?

>> No.8440212
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>> No.8440213

>>8440206
Kaczynski.

>> No.8440217

Can a new MegaUpload be built by the Swedes?

>> No.8440222

>>8440217

Wouldn't be as successful as MU because servers will be too slow.

>> No.8440225

>>8440199
>You forget we live in the era of social networking. Everyone and their grandma (literally) have access to everything (again, literally) that is happening to the whole world (yet again, literally).

that's not ho wliteral language works

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>> No.8440237

>>8440233
Filesonic.

>> No.8440241

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOCW6qHfKBw
FUCKING USA.

>> No.8440232 [DELETED] 

>if they shut down the internet just switch to 20meter radioband and join the rest of us in our text chats.

Can you tell me how to do this? Or at lest point the way?

I'm scared. I don't know what's happening, but I do know I don't like it. It's time to get prepared, even if it's all a waste, at least it'll keep my mind off of all this.

>> No.8440233

Fuck, now how do I give people Melty Blood links so they can try it?

>> No.8440249
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8440249

>>8440225
Ok, I admit that was an exaggeration and I should get fucked with a spiked strapon for misusing the term "literally", but the point still stands.

>>8440173
This isn't the time for requiems. Rev up the march, we are going to war.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITNFlY1OEcE

>> No.8440254
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8440254

>>8440237
I derped.
Thanks.

>> No.8440258
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8440258

http://imgur.com/a/M5a2O

:(

>> No.8440262

I have to go with everyone else on this one. "All those files"

Its a shame to lose all those files because there was some movies on it. I hate the RIAA and their kin as much as the faggots that pirate American movies now.

>> No.8440266

>>8440233
http://fyels.com/8pg

>> No.8440270

>>8440258
Great, now I feel like crying.

>> No.8440269

>>8440232
You can purchase a decent transreceiver for HAM radio for a few hundred. If you learn on your own you can even build them from scratch easily.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psk31

This is the most popular method of transmitting text through radio and what I use for chats as I rather not use my voice. There are also many methods of long distance packet transmission you can use for images.

Take it up as a hobby. If you build your own things an initial investment would be high for tools for soldering, measuring, the almighty oscilloscope, etc. but you can modulate it and save cash in the long run since you'll be using those anyways unless you want it to go the same way the internet is going; idiots who think it's a magic box.

Google around for Ham radio guides basically. Good luck friend.

>> No.8440272

>>8440266
What about those netplay patch and translation links?

>> No.8440274

>>8440272
Check the thread:
>>8427445

IIRC they're mostly mediafire links

>> No.8440276

I would also mention that with out MU all the people that used MU will go off on to other DDL services and bring them in to the spotlight.

>> No.8440281

>>8440249
>Rev up the march, we are going to war.

Hahahaha, speaking of, you know how they say history repeats itself...

Get ready for a revolution in October one of these days.

>> No.8440282

>>8440276
They could take out MU because they leased a server or two in Virginia. All the other services have to do is get the fuck out of the US and the feds won't be able to touch them.

>> No.8440280

>>8440199
>>8440196
I'm not about to push conspiracy theory, so I'll just say I more or less agree with you to start off.

I'm not forgetting we live in such an era, but the entire internet getting so concerned over one thing is still not common(especially given that it happens frequently). And then Megaupload comes down. It seems to me like a stunt may be being pulled given the timeline proximity of these considerations(for example, I have no idea how the entire SOPA/PIPA scare started--what was the seed that made people treat it so differently from past proposals and is it only coincidentally close to this event?), although as you two have noted both incidences are fully explainable as coincidentally happening around the same time.

My meaning is that something's probably changed in the political environment as an underlying cause for these two events to happen as they have in such close proximity.

Looking back on my posts, these are really just alarmist conspiracy statements, so I'm going to quit talking now.

>> No.8440283

>>8440269
Thanks. Doesn't this need a license though? And if so, isn't the point completely defeated by that?

>> No.8440287

Use mirrorcreator. Like multiplied but with 14 sites at once.

>> No.8440288

Guess I'll try to get in the habit of seeding my torrents longer.

>> No.8440290

Just thinking about the sheer amount of data that just disappeared really bothers me. If I had been the host or one of, I would have had an aneurysm.

>> No.8440291

>>8440282
It wouldn't be as fast. That's what people are arguing against that.

>> No.8440293

>>8440258
No.

...no. Not like that, not like that!

>> No.8440297

>>8440283
No one will find out.
I don't pollute the fucking air myself like a maniac, but it's like jaywalking, no one will know.

20m and many other frequency ranges are also reserved solely for amateur radio and public use, so until those laws are changed you can go crazy.

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8440302

>anonymous

>> No.8440308
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8440308

>>8440258
Thanks faggot, you made me sad now. ;_;

Come on /jp/, we can help in this! We can hoard everything weeaboo that exists and deliver it to those in need.

>> No.8440309

>>8440302
http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/

What's up.

>> No.8440307

"The summary doesn't mention it, but none of those indicted or arrested were U.S. citizens or had likely even ever set foot on U.S. soil. Even if you're in another country, you had better make sure you're not violating U.S. law. Here's a full list of those foreigners who foolishly thought they weren't under U.S. jurisdiction (from the DOJ website [justice.gov]):

Kim Dotcom, aka Kim Schmitz and Kim Tim Jim Vestor, 37, a resident of both Hong Kong and New Zealand. Dotcom founded Megaupload Limited and is the director and sole shareholder of Vestor Limited, which has been used to hold his ownership interests in the Mega-affiliated sites.

Finn Batato, 38, a citizen and resident of Germany, who is the chief marketing officer;

Julius Bencko, 35, a citizen and resident of Slovakia, who is the graphic designer;

Sven Echternach, 39, a citizen and resident of Germany, who is the head of business development;

Mathias Ortmann, 40, a citizen of Germany and resident of both Germany and Hong Kong, who is the chief technical officer, co-founder and director;

Andrus Nomm, 32, a citizen of Estonia and resident of both Turkey and Estonia, who is a software programmer and head of the development software division;

Bram van der Kolk, aka Bramos, 29, a Dutch citizen and resident of both the Netherlands and New Zealand, who oversees programming and the underlying network structure for the Mega conspiracy websites.

Dotcom, Batato, Ortmann and van der Kolk were arrested today in Auckland, New Zealand, by New Zealand authorities, who executed provisional arrest warrants requested by the United States. Bencko, Echternach and Nomm remain at large".

Copied from: http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/12/01/19/210201/megauploadcom-shut-down-founder-charged-with
-piracy

I thought he raised a good point.

>> No.8440312

I wonder how much of that MEGA CONSPIRACY is true. I just want to believe that they wouldn't simply do something like that out of nowhere just to take a website down.

>> No.8440314

>>8440302
That picture is fucking cool. I dont know if I would stop it.

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8440321

>+ 225 posts and 23 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

Why the fuck is a /g/ thread getting so many replies?

I haven't even used MU in months. Fucking plebs.

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>>8440309

>> No.8440317

>>8440258
Bang.

>> No.8440318

>>8440258
that was actually good, now i feel bad about it

also why are those people picking on JUST the internet? i mean don't they have more important shit to do? like dealing with us dept crisis, or has just swept away and what about hunting down those terrorist with the allmighty army stationed around the world?

>> No.8440327

>2012
>still using DDL websites

heh.

>> No.8440328
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8440328

http://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-shut-down-120119/

>Seized cars.

>> No.8440326

>>8440307
>Julius Bencko, 35, a citizen and resident of Slovakia, who is the graphic designer;
Makes me laugh every-time I see this. Lets hope he will enjoy his 20 years in jail, fucking murderer.

>> No.8440335

>>8440307
Yes, we know they weren't American, but what matters is that their server(s) were apparently in America.

>> No.8440337

>>8440328
Wow, Kim sure was fond of Mercs.

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8440338

>>8440309
>Anonymous operative Barrett Brown

Really?

>> No.8440346

>>8440335
It doesn't work the other way around though, if I hired a hosting service in some other country to do something silly that infringes on one of their silly laws America wouldn't arrest and deport me.

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>>8440328
>guilty license plate

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>>8440280
Don't worry, it's easy to pass this off as another conspiracy, but it's not. Capitalism is going through a crisis. People going through a crisis don't act rationally; they make mistakes.

They are like a cheating wife getting caught in the act and desperately trying to cover herself with the bedsheets and grab her panties from the floor at the same time.

>> No.8440366

>>8440338
Well yeah, he's clearly an Operating Anon. I bet you're still one of the lower-levels like Nigra. Do you even have a V mask, faggot? I bet you have a green sock with a question mark on it LOL

>> No.8440373

>>8440328
>POLICE
How isn't that illegal? Must have costed him a lot to buy it from whoever sat on it.

>> No.8440368
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8440368

>>8440328
I'm kinda glad that faggot got arrested after reading his gay plate numbers.

>> No.8440377

America is the world police. have you all forgotten that America seized and shutdown LS models because it was illegal in America and US citizens were using it.

If America wants you bad enough, American will come and get you.

So the only person who could order such a think would be Obama. You can blame him and all Liberal's for this.

>> No.8440380

>>8440377
It's in Obama's interests to tacitly support internet piracy because it would boost his political support by double digit percentages among the group of everybody from 18 to 30.

>> No.8440382

>>8440346
What? That's what I meant. They only got in trouble because their servers were in America, so that post's statement
>Even if you're in another country, you had better make sure you're not violating U.S. law.
is slightly misleading.

I must be misunderstanding what you're saying.

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8440383

>>8440366
I have a dick that's about to get rammed up your ass, motherfucker.

Nobody questions my 4chan rank.

>> No.8440388

>>8440307
>Kim Dotcom
His name is Dotcom. Dot fucking com.
Are you serious?

>> No.8440394

>>8440380
The president can give orders with out the whole world knowing. The world only knows what the media tells them. If the media doesnt know, no one knows.

>> No.8440395

>>8440383
dude, I just had a nostalgia blast.

I really wish that 4chan doesn't dissappear by 2013.

>> No.8440390

>>8440383
Oh it's you again. Sup brah?
Remember raiding Habbo? That shit was EPIC LULZ. I miss when Anonymous used to raid things. It sucks now, all they do is raid things.

>> No.8440391

>>8440383
>I've been here all summer.

>> No.8440396

>>8440388
Yep. Kim is a massive faggot, but I'll sorely miss his site.

>> No.8440397

>>8440388
I'll probably be in the minority here, but I actually think that's a pretty awesome pseudonym.

>> No.8440398

>>8440388
His other names are Kim Schmitz and Kim Tim Jim Vestor,

>> No.8440403

these old men should just die already. they are just ruining life.

>> No.8440406

>>8440403
It's up to you, Anonymous.

Me and you, and the other little girls, we can change the world together!

>> No.8440407
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8440407

You choose, goyim.

>> No.8440420

Land of the corporations.

Funny, this is the kind of takedown that SOPA/PIPA provided for. It's almost like the government just does whatever the fuck it wants nowadays and Congress is a big puppet show to keep the normal people happy.

The people don't rule in the United States anymore.

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8440421

>>8440407
I choose REVOLUSHUN

>> No.8440417

>>8440403
Old men, running the world.

>> No.8440425

youtube is so selfish

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8440426

>>8440407

>> No.8440433

So does anybody know why this is even really happening out of nowhere? what the fuck is going on with the government, are the old men going mad?.

>> No.8440437

>>8440433
It's not out of nowhere. Big corporations have been paying Congress to legislate against their competition for over a hundred years. It's just that the big corporations have way more money than they ever have before.

>> No.8440444

>>8440433
They wish the entertainment industry could go back to the 70's and 80's, where they had complete monopoly over what music people could listen and what movies to watch.

>> No.8440440

>>8440421
Rumia sure loves her revolutions.

>> No.8440453

>>8440321
Fuck off you autistic fuck. This is a huge fucking deal to the internet.

The internet is like a fucking graveyard of dead megaupload links now.

I don't know where this is going to lead.

>> No.8440456

>>8440426
Both are implying that Jews are behind it all, but the originals are a little more subtle.

>> No.8440462

>>8440426
Such is the hard life of an artist, getting pressured by the IDF even if you have originals on your blog.

>> No.8440463

>>8440437
>>8440444
But people dont even have money to but their shit to begin with anymore, they wont be fucking magically getting money because we are all still fucking poor and nobody is gonna paid for a fucking disk with 5 songs on it.

>> No.8440464

>>8440380
>It's in Obama's interests to tacitly support internet piracy because it would boost his political support by double digit percentages among the group of everybody from 18 to 30.
70 percent of Americans in that age range have pirated already.

Whoever is green lighting this is going to get fucked over in the next election.

>> No.8440471

>>8440463
It's not really about the money though it does factor, it's about taking back the control they had that was lost when the internet became commonplace.

>> No.8440468
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8440468

>>8440433
Corporations are going through a crisis, so they go full retard mode and order their states to set up the world so they can save a bit more money. They look at the Internet and say "eh, it doesn't produce goods needed for survival, its populated by teenagers, they aren't going to resist, acceptable target check"

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE A CAPITALIST'S ABILITY TO GO FULL RETARD WHEN HIS MONEY SAYS BYE-BYE.

>> No.8440470
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8440470

>>8440426
he mad

>> No.8440483
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8440483

>>8440471
Do not forget: it's always about money. Control is just a means to that end. Having control means they will eventually start making profit again once all the dust settles down.

It's all up to the users themselves, either we struggle or we get fucked over and end up like the grandpa on the comic.

>> No.8440484

So when do we kick these kikes out of our country? Their greed knows no bounds.

>> No.8440485
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8440485

someone upload the toohoo games to MF and then link those to /rs/

cuz I hadn't finished downloading toohoo to this computer... and all the links on /rs/ are to MU

>> No.8440487

>>8440426
Somebody's a little angry about a very reasonable adjustment.

>> No.8440489
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8440489

>dat feel when you had 5MB/s dl from MU

>> No.8440493

So what are the chances of mu coming back? can the owner get out of this bullshit?

>> No.8440490

>>8440485
those are the least problem, they are fucking everywhere on torrent sites etc.

the rare shit, that is gone forever if the uploader is gone as well

>> No.8440495

>check /rs/
>all recent links are dead
;_;

>> No.8440498

>>8440490
What kind of rare shit are we talking? Doujin spinoff games?

>>8440493
If they can prove themselves not guilty of all charges, yes. And to be honest the charges are pretty pants-on-head retarded (Mega Conspiracy? Really, America?)

>> No.8440504

Why must America ruin everything good?

I never even downloaded American shit from Megaupload. Do they really think I care about their Hollywood garbage or their music 'artists'?

>> No.8440500

>>8440468

Typical leftist that doesn't understand the private sector.

>> No.8440502
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8440502

>>8440484
Join and help with the strikes. That's what I do.

No, really, I have joined my country's revolutionary Party and I help in strikes, when my social anxiety doesn't take over me. It's also a cool way to reduce my hikkidom, crowds of strikes usually don't give a shit and you don't have to be anxious about whether they are looking at you or not

>> No.8440508

>>8440500
Then you explain us how it really works.

>> No.8440507

>>8440498
You're assuming they'll get a proper trial.

>> No.8440509

>>8440495
Tthe mf links work.

>> No.8440511

>>8440493
Probably slim. The safe harbor defense is less likely to hold up than it would be for, say, Google or Pirate Bay, because they were actually hosting the files in question. And a lot of very powerful people hate them very much.

Now, if our legal system were sane, they wouldn't have even been charged in the first place, but I wouldn't hold your breath.

>> No.8440522

>>8440199
>>8440249
>>8440365
>>8440483
stop posting lewd sanae, please
she's pure

>> No.8440525

>>8440504
They have a massive case of unwarranted self-importance. Somehow a few people who make up a small part of the entertainment industry are under the delusion their shit makes up a vast majority of piracy, and that every copy downloaded is a lost sale.

>> No.8440533

>>8440511
this shit just seems so fucked up, the fucking graphic artist was even charged, wtf is with that bullshit.

>> No.8440535
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8440535

this is the beginning of the end.

Only dire times ahead my friends.

>> No.8440528
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8440528

>>8440522
Yes, she's pure in her lust for lewdness. That's why she's so lovable.

>> No.8440540

Do the people who lost all their files and pay for this shit even have a say?

>> No.8440541

I wonder if their recent countersuit against UMG has anything to do with this?

>> No.8440546

can lets say a site like bitgamer be taken down, even though its private?

>> No.8440547

>>8440502
Revolutionary Party? Like Communism?

>> No.8440554

All the people who lost account money should sue the US government, that'd increase their chances of winning slightly.

>> No.8440564

>>8440554
Yeah, it'd go from
>Haha, yeah right, you have no chance.
to
>Haha, nice try, but you have no chance.

>> No.8440567

Why the fuck must shit like this happen, we finally have true freedom and they fucking take it away. I guess we are gonna have to wait for the next confusing big big that it will take another 20 years for the government to understand for true freedom again. in 5 years the internet will just be like real life, sad and boring and only rich people will be able to enjoy it.

>> No.8440577

>>8440567
Personally I think we should just start killing all the rich people. It always works.

>> No.8440578

Funny that this happens the day after the Wikipedia blackout.

>> No.8440580

>>8440567
good ole lynch mob can do wonders

>> No.8440581

>>8440567

When shit hits the fan, it's only normalfags that will be taken out of the internet. We who have nothing else will figure out a thousand ways to fuck with the laws and controls.

>> No.8440588
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8440588

>>8440547
Yes and one I am actually allowed to express my opinion at that. It sounds like bullshit but it isn't.

If you don't want to join COMMUNISM, I'd still advise for supporting and going to strikes. It's the best working form of resistance.

>> No.8440594

>>8440511
>The safe harbor defense is less likely to hold up than it would be for, say, Google or Pirate Bay, because they were actually hosting the files in question.
Nah, that's specifically made to be a safe harbor as long as they don't know it's infringing or remove it once they are notified.

>The four safe harbors provided by Congress, in the following subsections of Section 512, {FN72: 17 U.S.C. §512} are:
>...
>(c) Information residing on systems or networks at the direction of users

>> No.8440595

>>8440547
>>8440588
communism is shit
national socialism on the other hand is the way
this coming from someone living in post communist country

>> No.8440597

WHAT THE FUCK?
VNDDL is gone? I dont really VNDDL but still what the fuck?
How could they just do this?
They might as well just close the internet or any site with user upload contents.
This is a bad precedent, all the other filesharing sites will be next.

>> No.8440607

>>8440595

Neither of them would work in this day and age, we need to reinvent the formula.

>> No.8440609

I took a step into /a/ for the first time in a very long time to see how they were reacting to this. Apparently, they think this:

>If Megaupload is convicted, Mediafire, Rapidshare, and similar sites will be taken down next.

>> No.8440623
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8440623

>>8440595
Well, I can say the opposite, coming from a post fascist country.

This, however, is the Internet, there are no conventional nations here, nor do we need them. The only semblance of Nationalism we have are site and board wars, but these only go so far as to affect each board's etiquette and userbase.

This is a problem that transcends site borders. It's like an alien attack, we can't afford nationalism.

>> No.8440632

Even if direct download sites were taken down, I assume most of us use torrent for almost everything. The only real problem would be the old files that get no seeds anymore, but that can be solved by asking.

Or learn to use TOR+ Deepweb.

>> No.8440640

>>8440632
>tor
yeah i love 2KB/s dl speeds

>> No.8440647

>>8440632

What the fuck is that Deepweb I keep hearing about?

>> No.8440663

>>8440632
Tor would be blocked under the new acts and running a Tor node would be a serious crime. Heck, even connecting to one would be a big no-no.

>> No.8440658

>>8440647
ftps and sites which are not indexed by the search engines

>> No.8440667

>>8440594
I'm well aware that's what the law says, but what the law says and what the courts will decide are frequently very different things, especially in copyright cases.

Since MU was hosting the files, that defense is less likely to work for them, is what I was getting at.

>> No.8440675

>>8440663
The neat thing about TOR is that it is very difficult to even figure out if someone is connected to it.

That said, TOR is absolutely worthless for piracy.

>> No.8440677

>>8440658

How do you access it?

>> No.8440682

why do i have this really bad feeling tons of torrent site, even Tokyo Toshokan and baka bt and bitgamer are going to go away.. then i guess ill just stop using the internet.

>> No.8440692

>>8440675
Your ISP can still tell a Tor node from the port or something, can't it? At the least, they'll see that you're transferring large amounts of encrypted data... I wouldn't be surprised if the government would try to make it illegal to encrypt data without a license, like how they have it in France.

>> No.8440694

>>8440682
Also are those servers hosted in america?

>> No.8440697
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8440697

>>8440677
You don't have to. It's not like some super secret special club that you have to be a part of, there' some serious shit that goes down there, e.g. drug trafficking, information brokering, assassination services, credit card numbers for sale, DIY bombmaking, anarchists, black hat hacking and of course CP.

But if you really want to get on it, here's an image guide. And when you find you're part of some Russian botnet don't say I didn't warn you.

>> No.8440700

>>8440694
Not him, but tokyotosho is in sweden IIRC.

>> No.8440702

>>8440677
Don't. Unless you know what you're doing it's a one-way trip in the party van.

>> No.8440704

Download everything you can. Organize what you've already got. Even if they shutdown everything, we can still find ways to share what we already have with one another.

>> No.8440707

>>8440692
That would only work if every TOR node were known, which is exactly the sort of thing TOR is designed to prevent. As long as you're not connected straight to an exit node (and not all exit nodes are known, either), it just looks like an encrypted connection to some random PC somewhere.

>> No.8440714

>>8440702
>>8440697

Thank you for the information and advice.

>> No.8440717

>>8440704
Shit sucks when you have a data cap

>> No.8440723

>>8440704
My hard drives are already nearly full. Damn Thailand flooding.

>> No.8440727

What about our FTP? I don't know that much about it; how much space is available? Can just anybody upload to it? I've got some VNs I could contribute.

>> No.8440738

>>8440727
>>8440727
Here, have a look around.

ftp://jp ftp.mi ne. nu/Visual%20Novels/

Anonymous
/jp/

>> No.8440748

>>8440717
>>8440723
Do what you can. Compress for every extra MB of space if you have to, delete redundant files. Remember our network will only be as strong as what everyone can bring to it.

>> No.8440771

>>8440738
Looks like I have several that aren't there yet. Guess it's time to learn how to FTP.

>> No.8440772

>>8440748
I already have a shit ton of anime,hentai,games, and vns download on my harddrives. gonna go on a download rush on bakabt just in case.

>> No.8440781

>>8440692
I do hate it when morons, like this, start talking about things they know absolutely nothing about.

>> No.8440805

>>8440772
I wish I could do that, but I lost everything last year. Then I downloaded everything from bakabt, getting me a ratio of 0.001 or something.

Now I cannot even connect to the tracker when I try to seed to bring it up, and making a new account does not seem to work.

>> No.8440828

>>8440805
use ratiomaster, i have a ratio of 12.000 and could go even higher.

>> No.8440840

>>8440717
I feel your pain, anon.

>> No.8440845

>>8440805
You don't need an account for bakabt. Just in case and if possible, change your IP, and then search on google for site:bakabt.com + <name of what you're searching for>.

>> No.8440850

>>8440043
>The State can print money, they dont need the corporations, they can also close down corporations at will.
I bet you think nothing wrong happens when the State prints money every time it needs more money.

>> No.8440852

>>8440828
The problem is that I just cannot connect to the tracker to seed in the first place. My ratio is 0.051 (45gb/879gb) and I am warned.

>> No.8440857

>>8440704
Ugh, I just finished deleting 150 GB of rars I've left sitting around to free up space, I guess I'll just have to re compress the most important shit.

Crazy, I convinced myself last night I won't ever open any of those zips again. Wish I had an external to store them on.

>> No.8440869
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8440869

Looks like this is somewhat problematic for the VNDDL list. Are there any other decent filehosting sites nowadays? To continue the VNDDL list, I'd need a site that allows files of up to 1 GB to be uploaded anonymously (not all registered to a single account they can just terminate to remove all links), is not incredibly slow and doesn't force you to go through three pages completely full of ads to download a file.

>>8440727
It's not possible to upload to it. For some inexplicable reason, I don't like the idea of giving a board on 4chan (which, in addition to its usual trolls, also has the occasional off-board visitor who might want to do worse things) complete permission to upload things to my computer. If there are any notable VNs that aren't on there yet that you would like to see, please point out which ones they are and I'll see if I can get them myself. (PC only, no nukige, no licensed titles other than those licensed by now-dead publishers.)

>> No.8440877

>>8440869
Is there a particular rationale behind the 'no nukige' thing?

>> No.8440899

>>8440869
You're doing god's work, son.

Seriously, if you completely end up remaking the vnddl site I'll make a shrine to you or something.

And yeah, what's up with the no nukige thing? I mean sure we can just get it elsewhere, I'm just curious.

>> No.8440904

>>8440869
Is it not the problem that a site that good may also be targeted in the future?

I'm not too sure it's worth the effort unless you know for sure that your work will be preserved for quite some time.

>> No.8440906

>>8440869
Can you post the details for the FTP? I didn't save them.

>> No.8440914

>>8440877
>>8440899
Exactly because you can just get it elsewhere. Porn can be gotten anywhere on the internet. If I were to put nukige on the VNDDL list, it would soon outnumber the 'serious' VNs. The list is intended for people who are looking for VNs that are more than just porn.
(This is the same reason I don't host nukige or doujins on the FTP - I'm not wasting effort and bandwith on something you can just get elsewhere, at a place that probably has a much more complete collection.)

>> No.8440927

looks like they got Megaupload back up under a different domain name.
ttp://mega video.bz/

>> No.8440933

>>8440927
disregard i suk cocks

>> No.8440936

Media during child porn:
If you download it, people will make it.

Media during MPAA and RIAA:
If you download it, no one will make it.

>> No.8440980

>>8440869
Well, at a glance it seems you have Baldr Sky Dive1 but not Dive2, which is odd.

>> No.8441065

>>8440321
You have no fucking idea. Megaupload ALONE is 4% of the fucking internet. Think about that for a minute, let it sink in. That entire 4% just went dead in one afternoon. The full extent of this shitstorm won't be felt for months. We'll probably look back on this and the SOPA protest as the worst shitstorm of 2012 and we're barely into the year yet.

>> No.8441129

>>8441065
>Megaupload ALONE is 4% of the fucking internet.
[citation needed]

>> No.8441146

>>8441129
Supposedly it accounts for 4% of all internet traffic. Search google for some sources.

>> No.8441149

>>8441129
I know where he got that number from.

It's quite embarrassing though so I won't reveal it. However, the sheer size of data hosted on mega upload is undeniable. His point still stands.

>> No.8441178

>>8441146
4% of all internet traffic != 4% of all internet. If I have a single file that gets downloaded a 100 times, it may be 4% of a certain amount of traffic, but could be as little as 0.04% of an equivalent amount of actual data.

>> No.8441188

>>8441178
Actual data on the web is hard to measure considering the points going in and out all the time, so the traffic tends to be the most used measure.

Regardless of actual data percentage, it will be felt and will continue to be felt for a long time.

>> No.8441223
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8441223

;_;

>> No.8441232

>>8441223
Stop with the Armageddon pictures. Its making me feel like playing Fallout 3.

>> No.8441309

>/jp/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rzT03rc-eU

>> No.8441328

Just think--decades from this, you'll be sitting on the couch with your grandchildren, telling them about how their history books are bullshit and you were there the day the Internet, once a glorious land of infinite sweets but now a place of fear where only those with proper authorization can do anything but instant message, made its first real push downhill.

Oh, wait...

>> No.8441447

Fuck this shit, i'm going to Gensyoko.

>> No.8441949

http://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-swizz-beatz-120120/

>Mega’s competing music venture is/was called Megabox, a site that would soon allow artists to sell their creations directly to consumers. And unlike the traditional record deals where artists get only a fraction of the revenue, with Megabox the musicians would get to keep 90% of earnings.

So, how much did this weight on their small arrestings?

>> No.8442508

>>8440869
Media fire and Multi upload are decent replacements for Mega Upload - both provide fast speeds and are non-intursive (no concurrent connection limitation, no speed limitation, I can get about 10MB/s for Multi Upload). I would also suggest uploading your stuff to Usenet and also using services like upload mirrors or mirror creator, which post to mediafire and many other lesser known mirrors such as verzend and jumbo.

>> No.8442509

>>8441949
Officially? Not at all. Actually? We'll never find out.

>> No.8442522

>>8442508
Thanks man, ill be sure to upload all my camrips to mediafire now. Anyways, I got to go tell all my friends.

>> No.8442601

>>8441949
>with Megabox the musicians would get to keep 90% of earnings.
That would be badass. Universal would go down so hard they'd close down in a month.

>> No.8442641

>>8441065
I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of files suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

>> No.8443350

>>8442641
The hard drives were seized, not formatted. They are now evidence.

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