What other Japanese shootan' games (either commercial or doujin) do you like besides Touhou? Let's enjoy and discuss the Jappo shootan' genre. Fanarts and nicovideo links welcome.

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ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:37:37 2008 No.837955 [Reply] [Original]

What other Japanese shootan' games (either commercial or doujin) do you like besides Touhou?

Let's enjoy and discuss the Jappo shootan' genre.

Fanarts and nicovideo links welcome.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:39:26 2008 No.837961 Cho Aniki.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:39:41 2008 No.837964 Honestly, I've never played one besides Touhou that wasn't freely downloadable like Warning Forever. Blue Wish Resurrection is pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:39:52 2008 No.837967 Cottom.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:40:07 2008 No.837970 File: 67 KB, 566x470, 1213681207114.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Also, postan' art I stole from that one website.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:40:11 2008 No.837968 I like Gradius.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:41:24 2008 No.837975 File: 245 KB, 1000x933, 1213681284652.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	None !KYON.wwv9s Tue Jun 17 05:41:34 2008 No.837971 I only play eXceed vampire REX and DoDonPachi now...and only when I'm really bored. Same with the touhou games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:41:34 2008 No.837973 >>837968 GTFO.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:41:59 2008 No.837976 >>837967 That's "Cotton", chum. Unless there actually IS a shoooter named "Cottom"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:42:07 2008 No.837978 File: 202 KB, 600x600, 1213681327823.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gradius Parodius Ikaruga DoDonPachi ESP Ra. De. ESPgaluda Mushihime-Sama Raiden

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:43:32 2008 No.837984 File: 554 KB, 800x640, 1213681412722.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:44:11 2008 No.837986 File: 398 KB, 640x480, 1213681451442.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My favorite doujin shmup

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:44:19 2008 No.837985 Go Parodius or go home. Konami! Konami!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:44:50 2008 No.837989 File: 123 KB, 1311x977, 1213681490098.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	None !KYON.wwv9s Tue Jun 17 05:45:38 2008 No.837991 >>837986 Ether Vapor was pretty good too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:46:27 2008 No.837993 >>837984 Cotton 2's upgrade system is a fucking PAIN IN THE ASS.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:46:30 2008 No.837996 File: 151 KB, 500x738, 1213681590775.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>837964 Hmm. How does Cave's Deathsmiles make our Touhou-friends feel? http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1515117

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:46:44 2008 No.837997 File: 94 KB, 742x794, 1213681604995.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:47:29 2008 No.838000

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:48:22 2008 No.838004 The original Silpheed. The Raiden games There was a game for the SNES I could've sworn was called Paladin but I can't find anything on the internet by that name. It had a really retarded cover though lol

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:48:54 2008 No.838006 File: 499 KB, 800x1064, 1213681734044.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:49:13 2008 No.838009 >>837996 inB4 any CAVE'd puns

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:49:18 2008 No.838012 File: 32 KB, 300x329, 1213681758555.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Einhänder, the game haven't lost it's awesome even after 10 years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:49:19 2008 No.838013 File: 264 KB, 1280x960, 1213681759985.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 15 years old

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:49:47 2008 No.838015 File: 189 KB, 650x732, 1213681787533.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:51:07 2008 No.838020 File: 105 KB, 700x700, 1213681867884.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>838013 Indeed

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:51:11 2008 No.838021 File: 419 KB, 640x480, 1213681871754.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yes I'm one hell of a masochistic bastard

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:52:28 2008 No.838026 File: 977 KB, 960x960, 1213681948175.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:52:50 2008 No.838027 File: 83 KB, 756x814, 1213681970277.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:53:27 2008 No.838029 File: 66 KB, 1306x1198, 1213682007520.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:53:48 2008 No.838030 Just found it. It wasn't Paladin, it was Phalanx.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:53:53 2008 No.838031 File: 252 KB, 1539x1500, 1213682033416.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gunbird knows a thing or two about witches. And being a Raiden clone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:54:33 2008 No.838033 File: 177 KB, 1280x960, 1213682073076.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:54:45 2008 No.838034 File: 44 KB, 600x452, 1213682085107.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:55:22 2008 No.838035 File: 41 KB, 500x418, 1213682122946.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>838030 Superb

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:55:26 2008 No.838036 File: 82 KB, 400x300, 1213682126096.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Lily White !DWdJUrHcKI Tue Jun 17 05:55:31 2008 No.838038 File: 119 KB, 650x444, 1213682131807.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This. Einhänder also rocks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:55:55 2008 No.838039 File: 13 KB, 300x204, 1213682155146.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:56:41 2008 No.838041 File: 155 KB, 611x791, 1213682201901.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:56:43 2008 No.838042 File: 207 KB, 720x800, 1213682203566.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:57:53 2008 No.838048 File: 101 KB, 560x800, 1213682273237.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:58:24 2008 No.838050 >>838021 no one can 1cc it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:58:58 2008 No.838052 >>838042 in before raymoo's mom.

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>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:59:01 2008 No.838054 File: 282 KB, 717x906, 1213682341874.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:59:24 2008 No.838055

>>837996

not as good as Progear

ESP RA. DE., Ikaruga, Radiant Silvergun, Einhander, and Gradius 5 are all fucking amazing. Guwange and Progear are great, too.

>>837964

you're missing out on a lot. touhou is good for stuff made by one drunk guy, but it's pretty bleah when compared to the stuff by Cave and Treasure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 05:59:24 2008 No.838056 >>837996 It was doomed the second it was announced that the game wouldn't be named "Desu Loli" like the tentative name was but was to be death smiles.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 05:59:41 2008 No.838058 File: 265 KB, 1020x1170, 1213682381367.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:00:29 2008 No.838059 I find the lack of Twinbee disturbing.

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>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:01:41 2008 No.838065 File: 279 KB, 742x1024, 1213682501654.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>838059

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:01:50 2008 No.838066 File: 302 KB, 600x600, 1213682510097.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:02:27 2008 No.838067 File: 89 KB, 700x507, 1213682547928.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:03:18 2008 No.838071 File: 90 KB, 450x561, 1213682598139.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Synbios !TUyewbhdRo Tue Jun 17 06:03:23 2008 No.838072 File: 30 KB, 350x263, 1213682603689.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Radiant Silvergun. My first and only shooter that was AWESOME in my limited Saturn collection. Good night sweet prince/ss.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:03:24 2008 No.838069 Shikigami no Shiro, for one of the worst english dubs KNOWN TO MAN

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:03:35 2008 No.838074 File: 142 KB, 678x840, 1213682615359.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:04:21 2008 No.838075 Patchuhander.

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>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:05:53 2008 No.838080 File: 3.00 MB, 2000x1270, 1213682753006.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:06:32 2008 No.838085 File: 164 KB, 582x800, 1213682792502.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:07:06 2008 No.838090 File: 420 KB, 605x605, 1213682826468.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:09:12 2008 No.838102 File: 748 KB, 693x988, 1213682952123.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Lily White !DWdJUrHcKI Tue Jun 17 06:09:31 2008 No.838104 File: 72 KB, 640x480, 1213682971823.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:09:37 2008 No.838105 File: 96 KB, 500x707, 1213682977486.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:10:25 2008 No.838108 File: 118 KB, 699x476, 1213683025573.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Lily White !DWdJUrHcKI Tue Jun 17 06:11:43 2008 No.838114 File: 122 KB, 500x500, 1213683103435.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:11:55 2008 No.838115 File: 820 KB, 768x1024, 1213683115844.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:12:32 2008 No.838117 File: 3 KB, 300x200, 1213683152890.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Guardian Legend - Scrolling Shooter/adventure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:12:59 2008 No.838119 File: 37 KB, 389x336, 1213683179152.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Countering shitty art with manly fucking old school shmups.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:13:17 2008 No.838120 File: 223 KB, 400x400, 1213683197293.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Lily White !DWdJUrHcKI Tue Jun 17 06:13:25 2008 No.838122 File: 277 KB, 1280x720, 1213683205872.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:14:32 2008 No.838130 File: 240 KB, 750x730, 1213683272060.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:14:35 2008 No.838128 >>838122 I fucking lol'd

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:16:21 2008 No.838137 STAR FORCE, MOTHERFUCKERS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dEhAUbWs-A I love this fucking game; even after 20 years, I still love it

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:16:24 2008 No.838138 File: 475 KB, 800x800, 1213683384823.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:16:46 2008 No.838139

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:17:24 2008 No.838142 File: 62 KB, 512x680, 1213683444628.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>838119 Hard to find fanart of those. Hell, I couldn't even find any RS fanart.

>>	Lily White !DWdJUrHcKI Tue Jun 17 06:17:48 2008 No.838143 File: 72 KB, 400x400, 1213683468445.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:17:57 2008 No.838144 File: 94 KB, 432x618, 1213683477161.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Stop posting Tan'd versions of these ships. Right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:18:26 2008 No.838147 >>838137 HOLY SHIT NOSTALGIA BOMB

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:18:30 2008 No.838150 File: 78 KB, 550x674, 1213683510511.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:18:46 2008 No.838151 >>838142 Who says it needs to be fanart? THread wasn't for that.

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>>	Synbios !TUyewbhdRo Tue Jun 17 06:19:57 2008 No.838160 >>838142 No emulators of Radiant Silvergun floating around in the tubes?

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>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:21:27 2008 No.838172 File: 431 KB, 512x724, 1213683687674.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>838144 Were any even posted yet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:21:53 2008 No.838173 File: 74 KB, 554x406, 1213683713539.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:22:11 2008 No.838175 File: 77 KB, 647x785, 1213683731533.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:22:28 2008 No.838178 File: 23 KB, 320x280, 1213683748518.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>838172 I meant any of the ones you've been posting.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:23:10 2008 No.838180 File: 305 KB, 504x700, 1213683790996.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:23:38 2008 No.838183 File: 612 KB, 640x836, 1213683818507.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Most fucking badass game ever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:24:37 2008 No.838188 File: 52 KB, 369x519, 1213683877974.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Funny how there are basically only two people posting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:24:54 2008 No.838187 Needs even more R-type

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>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:26:01 2008 No.838194 File: 36 KB, 350x332, 1213683961706.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>838178 Hey awesome ships, moe moe desu, whatever. I love the shootan in all its forms. Let's combine both then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:26:03 2008 No.838196 File: 41 KB, 400x280, 1213683963167.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WHAT'S THE MATTER TOUHOUFAGS, TOO REAL GAME FOR YOU? OH WAIT NONE OF YOU PLAY THEM ANYWAY

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>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:26:43 2008 No.838200 File: 30 KB, 400x400, 1213684003607.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:27:06 2008 No.838210 ABADOX! DO YOU HAVE THE STOMACH TO FIGHT IN THE BELLY OF THE BEAST? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6IrVCOYsHE I actually never liked it, but I still remember the ads that ran in Spiderman.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:27:31 2008 No.838204

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:28:31 2008 No.838215 File: 671 KB, 1600x1034, 1213684111454.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>838194 >moe moe desu Sage. I can't stand this shit in shmups, fucking hate the fact CAVE have adopted it. Where the fuck has my manly mecha gone?

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>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:30:49 2008 No.838229 >>838215 I really see no reason to be too bothered by it. It's just Japan being Japan. It started to catch on in the 90's anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:31:15 2008 No.838232 100 image replies, fuck this thread. Hadn't even gotten to my favorites yet.

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:32:07 2008 No.838241

>>838229

>I really see no reason to be too bothered by it.

Because there's a pretty huge fucking difference playing some shitty lolis as opposed to a fucking spaceship.

It's like saying Metal Gear Solid would still be "just as good" if we had no Snake and played as a fucking little girl instead.

Oh wait you faggots would love that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:32:57 2008 No.838239 new folder: non-touhou shootan gaems

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:33:08 2008 No.838244 >>838241 >It's like saying Metal Gear Solid would still be "just as good" if we had no Snake and played as a fucking little girl instead. You do realize where you're posting this, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:33:58 2008 No.838243 >>838215 forgot my sage

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:34:43 2008 No.838248 >>838244 I don't see how it fucking matters, it's true.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:36:12 2008 No.838258 >>838248 Apples and oranges, and you know it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:36:57 2008 No.838261 Metal Gear Solid would be so much cooler if you played as a loli. Damn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:37:03 2008 No.838265 loli big boss where

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:37:19 2008 No.838262 >>838258 Are you seriously saying it would be improved if it happened as I said? Good god you are delusional.

ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:38:19 2008 No.838269

>>838241
Well, you're bitter over something silly. I don't see how the sprite makes a difference in the gameplay experience, espeically with a shooting game.

Now with your Metal Gear example, it would have probably been different if Snake Solid was a woman, since it's a plot-heavy series. Things would have obviously been different there.

But that's comparing apples and oranges.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:38:56 2008 No.838272 I picked up Castle of Shikigami 3 from Amazon a week or so back (fuck yeah $24 including shipping). Its pretty damn fun, but I always fuck up when side bullets get involved. And that damn stage 3's invisible walls...

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:39:19 2008 No.838275

>>838241
Hey, you can't really compare the two. In bullet hell games, all you see is a static sprite shooting bullets. I don't give a shit what the sprite looks like.

You're comparing MGS, a series involving the control and interaction with the environment in 3 dimensions and a strengthened connection with the character through total control of him, with these shooting games, which are 2 dimensional and lack any sort of interaction short of moving them back, forwards, and side to side while shooting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:39:37 2008 No.838276 >>838269 Has everything to do with it. If I'm playing a game about blowing shit up, I don't want to be some little girl, I want to be piloting a fucking badass spaceship.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:40:15 2008 No.838277 >>838276 I want to be a little girl flying a badass spaceship.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:40:59 2008 No.838279 >>838277 That's fine, as long as I get my fucking spaceship.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:41:42 2008 No.838283 >>838262 You're really saying it wouldn't? Wow...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:41:54 2008 No.838284 >>838276 You seriously care about the sprite? The sprite is just a tiny lowres marker for where the bullets are coming from.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:42:57 2008 No.838291 >>838284 That sprite is YOU.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:43:32 2008 No.838295 last good metal gear was MGS1 for the psx anyways in after MGS fags who haven't even played the msx metal gears

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:43:45 2008 No.838300

>>838262
MGS is a long movie which happens to have good game parts. If it had a shitty game part, it would still be successful.

STG may have a decent universe and story, but it won't help shit if the game sucks, and a generic moe-moe setting can't ruin a good game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:44:04 2008 No.838304 >>838300 >a generic moe-moe setting can't ruin a good game. You are a fucking retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:44:04 2008 No.838305 >>838291 It isn't. It's a little thing you control. Stop self-inserting yourself into everything, and seperate fantasy from reality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:45:28 2008 No.838307 >>838305 No, that sprite is YOU.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:47:13 2008 No.838315 >>838304 You are a fucking retard. Also, opinions, lol.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:48:45 2008 No.838319 >>838315 If it doesn't affect anything, why put it in smartass?

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 06:49:23 2008 No.838322 >>838276 You must really hate Touhou. I can't even see why you would even bother with /jp/. /v/ is the place for you. Anyway, it's obvious you're trolling. 10/10, you got us.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:49:56 2008 No.838326 >>838319 Demographics, Einstein.

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:51:54 2008 No.838335

>>838326

And obviously it's not an appropriate demograph for some fanbases.

>>838322

>You must really hate Touhou. I can't even see why you would even bother with /jp/.

Maybe you know, I try coming here for discussion actually relating to japan?

Oh wait, fuck no, has to be fucking Touhou all over the place.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:52:45 2008 No.838337 >>838335 You're not the target market, so nobody cares.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:53:09 2008 No.838343 >>838337 >You're not the target market, so nobody cares. If I'm part of a proportion that buys the games, yes I am dumbass.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:55:11 2008 No.838352 >>838343 Why are you buying the games if you hate them?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:55:31 2008 No.838349 >>838343 Since you buy the games, you support this stuff. Enjoy your little girls.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:56:27 2008 No.838353 >>838349 Facepalm. I buy the mecha ones. I buy the old ones that didn't have such bullshit. I just pirate the others in disgust.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:59:00 2008 No.838364 >>838353 I too, pirate games that do not appeal to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:01:20 2008 No.838371 >>838364 I've no issues with the gameplay, just the fucking setting/enemies, dipshit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:02:48 2008 No.838377 >>838371 I too, pirate games that do not appeal to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:03:08 2008 No.838381 >>838377 You really don't get it do you? There is APPEAL in the fucking gameplay, just not as much as it should be because it's being brought down significantly by setting/characters/bosses

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:03:13 2008 No.838379 >>838364 I thought I was the only one. I keep them in a special folder to let them know how much I disapprove of them.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 07:06:17 2008 No.838390 >>838381 Fuck yeah, personal tastes. For me, gameplay > music > setting/characters/bosses. I love me a shootan' with a good soundtrack.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:08:21 2008 No.838403 >>838381 Are you the same guy as the music guy from before?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:09:07 2008 No.838412 >>838403 I should just become a fucking tripfag at this rate.

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:09:20 2008 No.838407

>>838390

I have the same order, otherwise I wouldn't be playing the games would I?

Doesn't mean it can't bring it down.

Like, I don't play any videogames for story, but that doesn't mean I can't praise some for having particuarly involving ones or whatever, and can't critique another for especially bad plot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:10:32 2008 No.838415 >>838412 So you are?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:11:21 2008 No.838420 >>838415 Yes.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 07:11:36 2008 No.838423 >>838412 Armchair_Music_Expert?! I think of you everytime I play Theme of Laura on my guitar.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:11:37 2008 No.838424 >>838403 Which music guy? The one that hates all classical and anything with lyrics? Haha, that guy...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:11:59 2008 No.838430 >>838420 You faggot, I wrote a ton of trash last time for you to analyze about my music tastes but you left.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:13:01 2008 No.838435 >>838424 Nonono. It's the guy that wants us to explain our interest and taste in Touhou as well as music. Quite a few of us actually approve of his taste in music.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:13:32 2008 No.838432 >>838424 No, the other one. >>838423 >I think of you everytime I play Theme of Laura on my guitar. I'm so fucking TOUCHED.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:14:01 2008 No.838441 >>838437 Was that him? I really only associate Theme of Laura to him.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:14:10 2008 No.838436 >>838430 You're the faggot, you took too long to do it I assumed you'd left. No point staying then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:14:24 2008 No.838437 The Anathema fag?

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:16:18 2008 No.838446

>>838441
>>838437

I'm both. I was really fucking bored and pissed off at some morons going on about how great MyonMyon were that day so that was half a troll thread, but I decided there were high quality ones in the end.

Maybe not specifically to my taste, but certainly high quality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:17:38 2008 No.838447 >>838304 No, no. He's right; take Madoh Monogatari for example. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80oi99BI2OA And if a loli can put a beat-down like Snake, she deserves more fear than the Man himself.

>>	Armchair_Music_Expert !!SOjgvewTm/l Tue Jun 17 07:20:25 2008 No.838454 >>838447 Snake is automatically more dangerous because he has a fucking mustache.

ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 07:24:55 2008 No.838462

>>838446
You're right about MyonMyon being ass though.

Then again, I see that the song "Goonies are Good Enough" from the game arrange album "TV Game Superhero Collection" has just appeared in my mp3 playlist.

Clearly, I'm the last person who should be putting down other people's tastes in music. Now excuse me while I download the Deathsmiles OST off Winny.

>>	Armchair_Music_Expert !!SOjgvewTm/l Tue Jun 17 07:26:37 2008 No.838467 >>838462 I don't really get why CAVE soundtracks don't get as much attention tbh, they're equally as good, if not better in places compared to most Touhou. Touhou has a couple of standout ones at best.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:31:26 2008 No.838477 >>838467 Cave's tracks only started to become great circa ESPGaluda. Not that early Touhou music didn't suck, but most people's experience with Cave games is limited to what they can MAME.

>>	Armchair_Music_Expert !!SOjgvewTm/l Tue Jun 17 07:32:40 2008 No.838480 >>838477 >Not that early Touhou music didn't suck Bullshit, PC-98 has some of the best stuff in the series, if not PURELY for the chiptune as opposed to midi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:33:41 2008 No.838482 >>838480 Any specific tracks from the PC-98 games?

Armchair_Music_Expert !!SOjgvewTm/l Tue Jun 17 07:36:46 2008 No.838487

>>838482

I lost that collection after I reformatted a while for whatever reason, and I'm too much of a lazy fag to get it back again. I'll get back to you on it.

I'm frankly useless at remembering most Touhou music, very little of it holds anything memorable, and the absurd names don't help matters either.

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:38:52 2008 No.838489

>>838480
The timbre of the synth makes my ear bleed too bad to focus on the music itself. Not that I learned how to configure the emulator I use right, but there's nothing I remember being even notable. The Win32 stuff grabbed me immediately on the other hand, not particularly exceptional, but really fitting the games.

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:39:18 2008 No.838498

>>838487
Huh. I suppose a few of us (well, me at least) mainly remember the music by association with a certain character. Yeah, I know your views about the whole doujin scene, but I do enjoy some of the portrayals of the characters and some of the arrangements that I think fit with the character better. Since you're plainly not as much of a fan of the characters, I guess it's easy to see why you'd view the songs as unmemorable.

>>	Armchair_Music_Expert !!SOjgvewTm/l Tue Jun 17 07:39:31 2008 No.838496 >>838489 >The timbre of the synth makes my ear bleed too bad to focus on the music itself. Psh, I bet you can't listen to NES music without cringing anymore either.

>>	Armchair_Music_Expert !!SOjgvewTm/l Tue Jun 17 07:41:49 2008 No.838504 >>838498 How do themes FIT characters when most have basically no backstory?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:43:28 2008 No.838509 >>838496 I actually love the sound of that machine, especially when the devs really knew how to geat nifty sounds of the chip, like Konami. Every PC-98 Touhou track I remember was just a some boring melody over a grating drone.

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:44:02 2008 No.838516

>>838504
I suppose I stepped on a live mine.

I'm probably going to say something along the lines of "the doujins fleshed out the characters more", with you following up with something like "how could the flesh out a backstory that didn't exist in the first place."

Then I'm stuck there.

Armchair_Music_Expert !!SOjgvewTm/l Tue Jun 17 07:44:25 2008 No.838514

>>838504

And it's not really so much that as the fact that you can simplify the soundtracks down to just general overall sound altogether, and most just mush up if you ask me.

Fucking hell, the only reason I can remember Suwa Foughten Field is because it's in 3/4 for once.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:46:03 2008 No.838521 >>838498 It's memorable because it feels like you've heard it all your life. It's very formulaic, but it hits the sweet spot for many of us in terms of aesthetics.

Armchair_Music_Expert !!SOjgvewTm/l Tue Jun 17 07:46:23 2008 No.838518

>>838509

Well, I'd like to continue this, but like I pointed out, I'm in no position to argue this trait right now due to lack of the actual tracks to give examples for.

I'll probably make a thread about it in the next week if doujinstyle doesn't fag itself over and actually lets me get the damn thing within a month.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 07:48:53 2008 No.838530 >>838504 It works. Just like for the fightan' games.

Armchair_Music_Expert !!SOjgvewTm/l Tue Jun 17 07:49:30 2008 No.838534

>>838516

The absolute best response I can think of is that their character designs somehow can fit the theme, and to a VERY broad respect, I can somewhat understand that, but the character design (note, design, not artstyle) in Touhou isn't exactly a pinnacle of varied meanings and depth.

So, yeah, infinite loop. Could just be confirmation bias.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:49:52 2008 No.838535 >>838504 BEcause a character can have at least a sliver of personality from onscreen behavior; I'd say the songs serve to tie it together rather than flesh it out, myself.

>>	Armchair_Music_Expert !!SOjgvewTm/l Tue Jun 17 07:50:45 2008 No.838542 >>838530 If you mean stuff like say, Guilty Gear, the variety in designs and settings far surpasses that of Touhou, the comparison is just ridiculous.

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:52:18 2008 No.838545

>>838504
Man, I don't even know how to describe it. Some of arrangements just fits perfectly like a glove. It's sort of like how you can associate certain tracks with the colossi in SoTC, even though you don't have much to work with other than their physical appearances and the small amount of behavioral traits they have. Probably an insufficient response for you, but just my two cents.

Armchair_Music_Expert !!SOjgvewTm/l Tue Jun 17 07:52:52 2008 No.838550

>>838521

You're missing the point.

I think most of the source tunes are enjoyable enough to listen to, I just honestly don't remember any of them when I try to think about it. It's not like I haven't got anything to tie them to, because I have beaten the games.

>>838535

>onscreen behavior

Oh come the fuck on. OHHHH THIS CHARACTER FIRES BULLETS FASTER THAN MOST, SHE'S A QUICK THINKER.

Make some fucking sense.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:54:09 2008 No.838558 I love music from all these games (Touhou, GG, SOTC), but I can't see a lot of characterization in the music. In games, music tend to give me a sense of place, not a sense of character.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 07:54:28 2008 No.838557 >>838542 I meant like Street Fighter 2. But Guilty Gear also works when I think of the first game on PSX.

Armchair_Music_Expert !!SOjgvewTm/l Tue Jun 17 07:55:26 2008 No.838562

>>838545

I remember all of those because the fights were (for the most part) satisfyingly unique, and had time to stop and just let you think and drink in the enemy and the magnificence of the setting.

You don't exactly get that kind of timeframe in Touhou.

>>	Armchair_Music_Expert !!SOjgvewTm/l Tue Jun 17 07:57:13 2008 No.838569 >>838558 Yeah, I gotta agree with that one. Good music makes me visualize a scene, not necessarily particulars engaging in things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:58:21 2008 No.838584 >>838562 Yeah, I see where you're coming from. That's all I can really say though. Sorry.

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 08:01:21 2008 No.838599

Anyway, in the "music rooms", ZUN always seem to say the same thing: "I had this image in mind and I did whatever came to me". If the same motifs accompany the same character in every new version, you simply make an association, any deep meaning is just a bullshit rationalization.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 08:08:21 2008 No.838634 >>838558 Yeah, that's true for me as well. The atmosphere of the scene is created from the music, and any characters in the scene are just the result of association to the song rather than any actual "character crafting" happening in the music.

Armchair_Music_Expert !!SOjgvewTm/l Tue Jun 17 08:10:21 2008 No.838650

>>838599

Except I haven't olololo

I'm really fucking tired and I have a dentist's appointment in half an hour, fuck.

Obligatory signout with music that's better than you or anything you're listening to.

http://www.whendaydescends.com/mp3/when_day_descends_-_adaptive.mp3

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Jun 17 08:18:25 2008 No.838691 >>838650 Later dude. Sweet, this mp3 should get me right to sleep, what with its weak, vibrato-less lead guitar, no sense of compositional direction, and amateurish mastering qualZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 08:20:25 2008 No.838702 >>838650 oh boy POWOR METÜL gb2/tg/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 08:22:25 2008 No.838717 >>838702 lol, that isn't Power Metal. Learn genres, it'd go under Prog Metal or something.

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 08:25:25 2008 No.838733

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH_-EEIHzGU

If you hate loli in CAVE games, give Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu a try. It's still full of that addictive chain-whoring gameplay, and you get the bonus of blowing up gigantic transforming mecha loli in your badass spaceship.

Speaking of which, >>838102 is the first boss.

The only problem with this latest entry is that the final stage is fucking BROKEN score-wise. You can literally max out your score (A so-called Counter Stop.) if you manage to full-chain it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 08:48:26 2008 No.838832 >>838733 Saw the vids, what the shit. If they're trying to ruin this series with moe pandering, doing it in the most disturbing way possible is not a good idea.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 08:59:26 2008 No.838872 >>838832 >>moe pandering lol westerners and their misuse of japanese words

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 09:06:27 2008 No.838900 >>838872 baka gaijin kawaii desu ne ^_^

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