"Nocturnes" Light Novel Magazine/General

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"Nocturnes" Light Novel Magazine/General Anonymous Sun Dec 25 21:08:39 2011 No.8292831 [Reply] [Original]

Blog:
http://www.nocturnesonline.blogspot.com

IRC:
#nocturne-magazine

Contact Email:
jpanoneditor@gmail.com

Two, possibly three illustrators are on board now. Waiting on new scripts.

Thanks for all the interest everyone's shown up until now. Feel free to leave questions here, use the email or pop into the IRC chat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 21:11:08 2011 No.8292842 >IRC All aboard the failbus.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 21:13:09 2011 No.8292849 >Two, possibly three illustrators are on board now I need to see samples from them or call bullshit on this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 21:16:39 2011 No.8292859 I still don't believe this will happen, but if it last more than 3 months I'll write an article or two. I've got all these scripts sitting around for visual novels, movies, and a novel which will never be published. why not.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 21:23:00 2011 No.8292890 I still say it's all a bunch of pretentious, self-important bullshit that would benefit greatly from taking it easy to a greater extent, but good luck nonetheless.

Anonymous Sun Dec 25 21:30:30 2011 No.8292912

>>8292890

Personally, I don't see anything with setting the bar for quality control high. Yeah it means less content and more waiting but at the least the end result will be good.

Why are you even bitching about it? Did you submit and get turned down?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 21:31:30 2011 No.8292916 >>8292912 *anything wrong with

Ghast !!0ZWjg4scf/p Sun Dec 25 21:35:30 2011 No.8292937
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OP, why don't you post all the stories that get submitted here? That way we can decide whether the stories are actually as bad as you say or you're just being picky.

Also Buriki is always relevant.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 21:37:01 2011 No.8292950 I don't remember many stories being posted in the OC threads. There's always been the odd "You wake up in Gensokyo" CYOA or Touhou fanfic threads that didn't get deleted, but aside from that, I wonder where all these keen writers suddenly came from?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 21:39:32 2011 No.8292957 >>8292950 They're the same people you mentioned, just changing the names and locations in their fanfiction.

Anonymous Sun Dec 25 21:40:31 2011 No.8292964

>light novel
>quality

The funny thing is that 90% of this media nowadays is teenager fanfic level and are treated as "anime scripts", even eroges has better writing. I don't see the point of setting the bar high. Needless elitism is what is killing the western anime/manga fanbase.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 21:41:01 2011 No.8292971 >Stories which are purely Romance, Sci-Fi, Fantasy and Comedy will be rejected. Well there goes my story and some other anons story lol.

Anonymous Sun Dec 25 21:43:01 2011 No.8292983

>>8292964

>Rejecting people's scripts because they don't understand punctuation and sentence structuring
>Needless elitism
>Whatever, no one writes good or original fiction nowadays anyways. All published fiction is shit so mine should be published too! BAWWWW!"

I wish I could hate you to death. Really, I do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 21:45:31 2011 No.8292989 >>8292964 >Needless elitism is what is killing the western anime/manga fanbase. I dunno, have you been to /a/? I think a drop in quality expectations is what kills the fanbase.

Anonymous Sun Dec 25 21:48:31 2011 No.8293002

No, seriously, if you post the rejected stories, or the anons who submitted them do, you're going to get a lot more trust from people who now just assume that you're a cunt because that's the more likely situation.
That is, if they are so universally bad as you claim.

Gray !!0ZWjg4scf/p Sun Dec 25 21:49:31 2011 No.8293009

>>8292971

We don't care if a story has those elements in it. We're just not looking for harem nonsense, and I have yet to see a novice writer write a brief and self-contained fantasy/sci-fi short story.

If you think it's a good story, write it and submit it anyway. It'll get read and critiqued even if it doesn't get published.

Anonymous Sun Dec 25 21:54:31 2011 No.8293029

>>8293009
>I have yet to see a novice writer...

Bro, if that's what you're basing your submission guidelines on, you may as well not do this. You're going to read a lot of trash, and it doesn't have to do with genre, it has to do with the fact that writing's a lot like singing: a lot of the time, the people with the least talent have the most confidence. I agree that there seems like there's more spec fic that fails, but that's probably because there's just more people writing spec fic than genre fic, so you get to see more of the abortions. To be completely honest, the type of board culture we have here kind of demands that you be open to spec fic if you want the project to have a credible association with /jp/. It's your project though, so do whatever you want, just don't get touchy when people think certain things you're doing don't make that much sense (more transparency is always better, too, as you can see by this thread's replies already).

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 21:56:01 2011 No.8293036 Jesus christ, did I stumble upon gaia/fanfiction.net or something? Why isn't the janitor deleting this pretentious normalfag shit?

Gray !!0ZWjg4scf/p Sun Dec 25 21:57:01 2011 No.8293037

>>8293002

All right, here's one. I guess you can't make a cake without breaking a few eggs. I've left out the writer's name out, out of respect. Nothing was indented/marked in the manuscript except for some parts done in bold, so that's not due to Pastebin's formatting.

http://pastebin.com/M0FFXFd0

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sun Dec 25 21:58:31 2011 No.8293038 I just want to read Anon stories with kawaii girls and then see nice Anon artwork based on the girls. Like the OP pic series.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:02:31 2011 No.8293051 I think I'll give it a shot. Problem is, don't know what to write about. Anything anyone want to see?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:02:31 2011 No.8293053 >>8293038 Sorry, not DEEP enough.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:03:02 2011 No.8293064 Do you accept .rtf as a format?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:04:31 2011 No.8293066 >>8293064 What a nerd. Just use plaintext you nerd.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:07:31 2011 No.8293077 >>8293037 .... What the fuck, even I can do better than this. brb writing my own submission.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sun Dec 25 22:10:01 2011 No.8293085 /r/ a gothloli character in one of the stories. Maybe she can use magic.

>>	repost Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:13:01 2011 No.8293093 Enjoy jCancer Enjoy jAIDS

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:13:32 2011 No.8293090 >>8293085 Writing it now. I'll make you proud, ZUNbar.

>>	All Day !jCOMomijIM Sun Dec 25 22:26:01 2011 No.8293136 >>8293037 Someone must've taken a page out of a Stephanie Meyer book, holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:27:01 2011 No.8293138 >>8293064 You know that Open Office, a stable Word clone, is FREE AND EASY TO DOWNLOAD, right? Jesus.

Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:28:02 2011 No.8293141

Op, why don't you show us what a quality light novel is? That would help me and others figure out what to strive for and what you're looking for. It would also give you credibility, and you could start your magazine off with some of your work. Maybe even link to other stories you saw online that you think are good and bad, and critic them in the magazine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:29:01 2011 No.8293143 >>8293037 I was gonna chew you out over fucking with that metaphor, but holy shit that was bad. They're all this bad aren't they? If not post one that will be included in the first issue so we don't all lose and hope forget about this project.

>>	All Day !jCOMomijIM Sun Dec 25 22:29:33 2011 No.8293142 >>8293136 Correction, Stephanie Meyer's books mixed with a plain misunderstanding of how dialogue works in writing. I feel for your editor.

>>	All Day !jCOMomijIM Sun Dec 25 22:30:32 2011 No.8293146 >>8293138 >>8293064 Or you could just use Google Docs, it's pretty easy to use, no download, and you can download it in a multitude of formats.

Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:33:32 2011 No.8293153

OP, your project isn't a bad idea, but you should rephrase your prerequisites on the blog. Instead of saying "can't be _______ genre" you could say something like "We encourage _______ genre and _______ themes." Even if you get a bunch of shitty romance stories you could always just say "We have a lot of romance stories already, I don't need another, but I'll keep it on the back burner." Even if you don't.

Having said that, I wish you the best of luck. Try not to end up like those other clusterfuck excuses for projects.

Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:37:02 2011 No.8293168

>>8293141

I think OP's trying to take regular novels and illustrate them, as opposed to making shitty dialogue-crowded writing aimed at teenagers and then adding kawaii anime girls to distract them from the trainwreck fiction like most light novels. Which, uh, is an interesting way of approaching it I guess, although more tedious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:40:01 2011 No.8293174 I wish I could write story's, but I'm to busy learning Japanese to read VN's. And when you think about it, everything has been tried already.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:44:01 2011 No.8293183 >>8293037 Eh, I dug the last part.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:46:02 2011 No.8293188 Does it HAVE to be a novel? i tried something a bit more meta but the editor never emailed me back.

Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:47:32 2011 No.8293189

>>8293168
But besides this being a showcase of /jp/, what makes this any better than lets say any other writing site? Its hard to get behind this, when I don't know anything about the editor or what they can do themselves. Its great that hes critiquing us so we can improve, but I'm still confused as to what hes really looking for. Which in turn is making me wary of spending time to submit to this.

>>	All Day !jCOMomijIM Sun Dec 25 22:50:32 2011 No.8293198 >>8293183 The ending was nice. The intro was poor, and it felt like it was stitched together. Theres a lot to be desired, but if the plot were clearer and there was less "Present" and "3 days ago" then it has potential.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:53:01 2011 No.8293210 >>8293189 This is not a /jp/ only project. I'd even be willing to bet /jp/ involvement will be a minority n what ever gets published.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:56:32 2011 No.8293215 >>8293210 >I'd even be willing to bet /jp/ involvement will be a minority n what ever gets published. Why are you saying that like it's a bad thing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 22:58:02 2011 No.8293219 >>8293215 Just a point to consider, as some people may see such a thing in a very negative light.

Gray !!0ZWjg4scf/p Sun Dec 25 22:58:02 2011 No.8293220

>>8293143

I don't enjoy doing posting someone's work like that, but everyone seemed pretty desperate to see what I was rejecting. And yeah, terrible metaphor.

>>8293141
>show us what a quality light novel is

It's kind of hard to recommend a light novel since the good ones aren't translated, and good bits are lost in translation to begin with, you know? I'm pretty sure I'll get trolled for at least one of these.

The Wolf & Spice novels are good, and I actually ended up enjoying Fate/Zero despite Urobochi's horrible endings, powerlevels, etc. I haven't read Wolf & Spice in English, though, so I'm not sure how most people have read that.

>>8293153

Fair enough. I think I will tweak things.

>>8293064

No. RTF is a horrible format and people who use it are horrible too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:00:32 2011 No.8293225 >>8293220 What we want is an example of a good story from what was submitted to you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:01:03 2011 No.8293229 File: 158 KB, 600x600, 667eb0ca8539334d7962aab053881a7d4a0e2696.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8293220 >>The Wolf & Spice novels are good

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:05:01 2011 No.8293238 >>8293225 >reads light novels in Japanese >likes Spice and Wolf Okay OP, maybe you're not so bad after all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:06:01 2011 No.8293240 >>8293238 Quoted the wrong guy but you get what I mean.

Gray !!0ZWjg4scf/p Sun Dec 25 23:14:02 2011 No.8293259
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Also, someone wanted to know who's illustrating. This guy said it was alright to show his Pixiv, so here. This is a sample from one of our artists, Magister.

You can find more of his stuff here: http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=367529

Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:23:04 2011 No.8293280

>>8293220
How are we supposed to write a good light novel if we don't have a good example of one in English? Not to mention I just had to look up what a light novel is and I'm confused as to what writing style that would translate to in english since google gives mixed answers. I feel like such an idiot for asking this, but what is your definition of a light novel?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:24:33 2011 No.8293282 >>8293259 Looks like /jp/ QUALITY. I know why you're keeping the "good" writing such a secret now.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sun Dec 25 23:27:32 2011 No.8293292 File: 833 KB, 599x749, junk74af359e7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8293090 Hurray.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:28:02 2011 No.8293297 >>8293292 Sudo still gets more fan art. On that topic, do you think you could take Sudo in a fight, ZUN!bar?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:28:31 2011 No.8293296 >>8293282 I actually like this guy's artwork, what the fuck are you talking about? You should just commit sudoku.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sun Dec 25 23:30:02 2011 No.8293303 File: 860 KB, 1024x868, 21387769.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8293296 Yeah agreed that other Anon is gay as HELL.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:35:32 2011 No.8293315 >>8293259 So let me get this right, he's going to do the cover art? Which is a goth loli playing a violin? I'm already stroking my dick at the thought of it. Please make it happen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:39:03 2011 No.8293331 >>8293259 An actually good artist. But their love of oversized mammaries disgusts me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:40:03 2011 No.8293334 So will we ever see a sample of so called good writing? Or will OP just continue not to address that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:42:33 2011 No.8293335 >>8293334 "Good Writing" is probably in the process of being edited or written.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:42:33 2011 No.8293336 >>8293334 Don't hold your breath.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:43:02 2011 No.8293337 >>8293334 Not happening, OP doesn't want to play his hand.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:44:01 2011 No.8293341 Would a story about a Tulpa and the man it torments be a considered in the accepted genre bounds?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:44:32 2011 No.8293339 >>8293259 well, that's good to see. i doubt he'll be given the freedom to draw glorious breasts though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:44:32 2011 No.8293340 >>8293335 This. How long has this been going on? A week? Chill the fuck out and have some patience. Writing isn't nearly as quick as drawing, at least if you want it to be polished and presentable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:45:02 2011 No.8293344 >>8293340 There are tons of examples of good writing all around the internet. All op has to do is present us with one so we know what hes looking for.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 23:46:32 2011 No.8293345 >>8293340 He's clearly got things in he deems acceptable. Even if they're not "perfect" would it kill him to post an example?

Gray !!0ZWjg4scf/p Mon Dec 26 00:01:31 2011 No.8293358
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You guys seem hell-bent on me posting an example of what "good fiction" is, so I'll cave.

Any of these stories, or any by Chekhov are fine examples of the kind of writing I'm looking for. The themes/plots are up to you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:03:32 2011 No.8293364 >>8293358 Well played, OP. Well fucking played.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:04:02 2011 No.8293367 >>8293358 My god, you have some awful taste.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:06:01 2011 No.8293372 >>8293367 You shitting me? Hemingway is the shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:07:01 2011 No.8293373 >>8293367 >Saying Hemmingway is shit So hipster I don't even know where to start.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:08:02 2011 No.8293377 >>8293372 More like Hemingway IS shit. >>8293373 >>8293376 Nice work on just being "So epic xD", goes to show what kinds of people this shit-taste guy attracts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:08:32 2011 No.8293376 >>8293367 >>Hemmingway >>Shit LaughingSoHardI'mCrying.jpg

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:11:01 2011 No.8293389 >>8293377 Hemmingway isn't for everyone, but if you really think he's a "bad" writer then you should just go kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:11:32 2011 No.8293387 >>8293373 Well, in his defense, he probably liked Hemmingway before he went mainstream.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:11:32 2011 No.8293388 >>8293358 Yes because I can sure whip out a copy and start reading that op. Thank you so much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:13:31 2011 No.8293395 Why does a board full of people who are proud of being stupid, autistic, and uneducated think they are experts on art, literature, or anything that doesn't involve pedophilia/masturbation?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:14:01 2011 No.8293399 >>8293388 I'd imagine it's fairly easy to find some of Hemingway's short stories on the internet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:14:32 2011 No.8293398 >>8293388 Not OP, but http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hemmingway+short+stories.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:14:33 2011 No.8293403 Can't you just submit ideas first and then ask for a sample chapter? Does a chapter have word count/page restrictions? I actually want to write anti-feminist pieces. Will this work?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:15:33 2011 No.8293405 >>8293389 I like his themes, but I hate his style. >>8293395 Dunno, ask these guys who think Hemingway is the greatest writer of all time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:16:02 2011 No.8293412 >>8293409 Second.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:16:32 2011 No.8293408 >People bitch about OP not being specific about what he wants >He posts a valid, well-known author's writing >/jp/ bitches it's not good enough Are you guys even listening to yourselves?

>>	All Day !jCOMomijIM Mon Dec 26 00:16:32 2011 No.8293409 >>8293403 I like and support this. Fucking feminists

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:17:31 2011 No.8293416 >>8293408 It's just one guy who's doing that you autistic fuck, calm down.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:18:01 2011 No.8293422
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i emailed some stuff to the editor the day before yesterday, but he hasn't responded yet. so can you guys tell me what you think of my dream log? i've played around with the idea of posting it somewhere for a while now, like /x/ or maybe a blogspot page, so this project made me curious.

is this something people would want to read?

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Mon Dec 26 00:19:33 2011 No.8293423 /r/ a story about a loli vampire with a fondness for tea.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:20:01 2011 No.8293432 >>8293422 Why the fuck would you embarrass yourself by submitting this?

>>	All Day !jCOMomijIM Mon Dec 26 00:20:01 2011 No.8293433 >>8293422 You don't need to say 'I forgot' 5 times over, it destroys the power it has if used in suspense or to make a bold point. Using it once as it's own paragraph would make it much stronger through repetition and making it in to a motif.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:20:31 2011 No.8293430 >>8293422 Oh man, you have a dream log too? A shame you seem to have forgotten so much, I always write down my dreams.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:20:31 2011 No.8293431 >>8293412 >>8293409 I really want to write something about the downsides of women empowerment and its effects on a society. It will be a story though, not a litany of adachi.jpg.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:21:02 2011 No.8293437 I agree with having a theme or prompt for each magazine op. Its always fun to see what people come up with based around the same ideas.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:22:01 2011 No.8293441 >>8293431 >It will be a story though, not a litany of adachi.jpg. Awwww. >>8293432 I don't think that's what he sent to the editor... At least, I hope he'd have that much self-respect! Oh shit... Seems he actually thinks that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:23:32 2011 No.8293442 >>8293437 Yeah, a monthly theme with a collection of short stories is a great place to start.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:24:31 2011 No.8293443 >>8293423 I'll take a shot at it when I'm not lazy and no one else offers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:25:02 2011 No.8293446 >>8293422 http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-you-love-to-discuss-that-nobody-else-cares-about/ >"Listening to people's dreams ... is like flipping through a stack of photographs; if I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care."

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:25:02 2011 No.8293447 >>8293441 I think telling a story with such themes will leave a powerful impact on the reader, rather than reading through a dissertation and still not get the point.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:27:01 2011 No.8293452 >>8293358 Fuck you, you know full well that we want to see a submitted piece.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:27:01 2011 No.8293453 This is seriously the most entertaining thread I've seen on /jp/ over the last 24 hours.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:27:32 2011 No.8293451 >>8293442 Question is, how lewd should the poses be? >>8293447 ... Refer to >>8293446 I thought that was an actual dream log you inexplicably decided to share with us, not some project you thought had merit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:33:31 2011 No.8293471 >>8293441 nah I don't write down graphic (sexual) details. even if i did i would just edit them out before sharing it with anyone. but if it's really that cringe worthy, i'll just keep it to myself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:36:31 2011 No.8293487 >>8293471 Good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:37:02 2011 No.8293495 I need to start keeping a dream log. I know there are some good stories in there but I've forgotten them all hours after waking and only remember particularly stupid ones.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:39:32 2011 No.8293507 >>8293452 It's pretty obvious you're not going to see one. At least he gave you some reference material, as opposed to just ignoring you or saying "Fuck off"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:41:31 2011 No.8293518 >>8293495 >but I've forgotten them all hours after waking Really? You seem to be able to retain them quite easily, you would have no trouble writing them all down.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:43:01 2011 No.8293531

>>8293507
He's still ignoring the point. Hasn't even addressed it. Thoughts on Hemingway aside, does he really expect published author quality from us? Really?

That said, why is this asshole even in charge anyway? Has he given any examples of his own work?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:44:31 2011 No.8293536 >>8293495 just keep a notepad file open when you go to bed. if your computer's fans are too loud use some paper and then copy it down. no big deal.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:45:02 2011 No.8293542

Unless something has changed in the past 24 hours, here's an answer for every calling for a submission example.

From yesterday:
>Well, I won't lie. We've rejected a couple stories and I turned two people away who just wanted their outlines reviewed. Four other people claim to be "working on" stuff, the one somewhat legitimate guy (who talked to me in person) submitted a clip from a story about a piano stage haunted by a girl who killed herself on the stage way back when or something like that but it was a paper copy and I don't have a digital one. What little I read was okay though. I think it's a mystery.

>Tl;dr, nothing's gone through yet. I could post a clip from the submissions and you'd understand WHY they didn't go through, but that's a bit mean. I will say that one writer got really angry about "not being accepted into even a 4chan e-zine" though.

So there's nothing. Everybody who would be participating is waiting for an example that no one will provide. And OP just raised the bar as fuck by submitting Hemingway and Chekov as "examples" for a board of anonymous, oelvn-writers-in-the-making to aspire to.

I fear for this project, I really do.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:46:31 2011 No.8293545

>>8293518
Okay, when I said hours, I really mean something more on the order of five minutes. But I never decide I should write it down until well after I've woken up, "hey, I remember I had a good dream, too bad I can't remember any of it anymore."

>>8293536
Yeah I have a diary. I should actually use it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:47:32 2011 No.8293551 I forget most of my dreams when I wake up. I can remember I had a good dream, but can't remember anything about it. The only dreams I ever remember are nightmares, and I try my best to forget those.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:48:02 2011 No.8293560 >>8293545 >I really mean something more on the order of five minutes Well, that's good to hear, that was my initial dream retention time as well. >>8293542 ...Wow. I'm reminded of those shenanigans with Kritz.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:48:31 2011 No.8293556 >>8293551 cool thanks for sharing

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:50:02 2011 No.8293571

>>8293542
Well there goes any credibility OP had left. It's been fun working on this, and I'll probably finish my story for shits and giggles. But I'm not participating in this clusterfuck anymore. Good luck to everyone though, seriously I hope something comes out of all this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:51:01 2011 No.8293572 >>8293551 do you look forward to going to bed during the day? if you don't, it might explain a few things.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:52:01 2011 No.8293574
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>>8293531

>he thinks he means "be as good AS hemmingway" and not "be concise LIKE hemmingway"

This is like watching a dog chase its tail. Have you even read his stuff or did you just google his name and see "award-winning writer" and get asspained? They spam the SHIT out of Hemmingway in creative writing classes. You're missing the point of the half-joke, you fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:55:10 2011 No.8293582 >>8293572 You I don't really know. I usually just sleep all day so its not something I really look forward to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:55:43 2011 No.8293578 >>8293574 Cool anime reaction image and insult-laden post bro, but where's the substance? Where's an actual example?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:56:39 2011 No.8293584 >>8293574 Sup OP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 00:58:39 2011 No.8293589 /jp/ project that never went anywhere #295 bites the dust.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:00:40 2011 No.8293594

>They found artists
>One month till deadline
>People are writing stuff to submit

So... what exactly is the problem? Everyone's flinging shit at each other and calling names but I don't really see why.

And what's wrong with Hemmingway?

...... This thread has left me so fucking confused.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:00:40 2011 No.8293595 >>8293582 You're not looking at this from the right angle. Think of your dreams as a opportunity to take a vacation from life and go on adventures. You'll have a lot more fun, and your subconscious will always find something new to surprise you with.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:02:09 2011 No.8293602 >>8293594 >what's wrong with Hemmingway? Nothing. The people trashing on him and claiming OP has shit taste/won't offer a specific answer are just one butthurt /jp/sie trolling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:02:39 2011 No.8293601 >>8293594 Read the thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:03:02 2011 No.8293604 >>8293602 Hey OP, how's it going?

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:04:02 2011 No.8293608

Time to write a story. Should I just post it here or should I email it to you? I was thinking about emailing and then posting so you know who I am... I like the idea of doing it anonymously and on the boards but I also like the idea of being the author of my story.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:05:31 2011 No.8293611 >>8293594 >So... what exactly is the problem? That part where a large portion of /jp/ is mentally retarded.

>>	All Day !jCOMomijIM Mon Dec 26 01:06:01 2011 No.8293615 >>8293608 http://nocturnesonline.blogspot.com/p/submissions-issue-deadline.html Emailing it is the best way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:07:32 2011 No.8293619 >>8293608 Email it and post it here if it's rejected.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:08:02 2011 No.8293623

OP I know this is your project and thus you get to call all the shots. But it makes me very confused when you take off your tripcode (example >>8293574) could you please keep it on when discussing this, and be straight with us? If your guidelines are as clear as you say they are, then you should have no trouble just explaining them to us instead of just saying "copy this author, he's very good" while samefagging. No offense but I get the feeling you're just being an arbitrary elitist faggot for no clear reason and it's scaring away a lot of anons who may have some cool stories to share.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:10:01 2011 No.8293626 >>8293623 Shut up, fucking troll.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:11:31 2011 No.8293629

I thought a light novel was just a teen novel. A simple story written for young adults and under. So how is Hemmingway a good example in terms of that? I see that light novels are dialogue driven, so hes a great example for that, but in all else its not the best example because he writes short stories, not light novels which are longer. Ones that the target demographic for a light novel probably doesn't care much about. So are you really asking for a light novel (like a chapter from a story), or are you asking for short stories? I'm just confused.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:12:31 2011 No.8293633 Someone else take the reigns, I actually want to see this happen, and not OP just jacking himself off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:13:42 2011 No.8293641 >>8293623 hey maybe he's just acting like a elitist to build up hype. I wouldn't blame him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:13:42 2011 No.8293642 >>8293626 Smooth move. >>8293629 Hemingway is a horrible example for those, as is Chekhov. Light novels do not equal short stories.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:14:10 2011 No.8293644 >>8293633 you do it

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:14:11 2011 No.8293647

If I were to read a short story/light novel magazine, I wouldn't want it to be Nobel-caliber. I read light novels while taking it easy. If I want awe-inspiring literary work, I'll just go read a classic.

Besides, light novels are just a collection of short stories. The bar OP set for the quality of the submissions is too high that I bet nobody will enjoy this magazine other than himself.

Gray !!0ZWjg4scf/p Mon Dec 26 01:14:11 2011 No.8293649

>>8293608

Email.

>>8293604

I posted it to give everyone an idea of the writing style I'm looking for. Concise, brief, snappy. Do you have to write like that way? Of course not. I don't expect to find the next Hemmingway on here. The entries we've gotten so far have been horrible or just "ideas," so I didn't have anything to give you from OUR pool of stories. Thus Hemmingway.

Anyway, you're jumping quite a ways between this idea and that. Relax, have a cup of black tea or something. Submit something fantastic and it'll get used as a sample.

>>8293611

That seems a little harsh. /jp/'s insecure, a bit paranoid to be sure, but I don't think mentally ill/retarded.

>>8293574

Stop that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:15:40 2011 No.8293651 >>8293644 I question my ability to edit anything, let alone other people's stuff. But if enough writers are okay with some random anon doing it, I'll gladly at least step up and try.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:15:40 2011 No.8293654 >>8293633 just start a new project and the writers will jump ship on their own.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:16:10 2011 No.8293660 >>8293649 Smooth work talking to yourself like that, but we can all tell it's you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:18:11 2011 No.8293666 >OEL LN can you people like DIE or something

>>	Tokiko Mon Dec 26 01:19:10 2011 No.8293670 >>8293666 Seriously, fuck off Steam group.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:21:40 2011 No.8293677 >>8293660 How ironic that you're accusing someone else of samefagging. How many of these posts have been yours? 60%? 80%?

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:23:01 2011 No.8293682

Reading this thread reminds me of those zombie stories.

Where there's this group of survivors working towards a goal, and suddenly some bitter asshat decides to start shit and calls the leader a zombie. Then some other weak-willed asshats jump on the bandwagon behind the main asshat, and they scream at each other while the group falls apart and they all get killed.

except for the leader, who just walks away thinking "well, shit" and moves on

that's the feeling im getting right now

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:23:32 2011 No.8293680 >>8293677 You're getting pretty antsy there, Gray.

>>	PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw Mon Dec 26 01:24:01 2011 No.8293684 I'd like to write for this project. Too bad my anxiety makes me not want to show anyone else my work until it is done, even then I get nervous about showing it to anyone else.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:24:01 2011 No.8293685 >>8293684 ...moe.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:25:01 2011 No.8293692

To help counteract the excessive negativity in this thread, I'd just like to say that this project seems to be going in a good direction. Good job, OP and contributing writers and artists.

>>8293542
>And OP just raised the bar as fuck by submitting Hemingway and Chekov as "examples" for a board of anonymous, oelvn-writers-in-the-making to aspire to.

When asked for examples of good writing, the only acceptable response would be to point to the best. That doesn't mean that the editor expects that submissions should be as good as Hemingway to get published. Promoting any lesser work would be an implicit endorsement of its faults.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:25:31 2011 No.8293688

Anyone want to start this over? Forget the magazine thing, we can just get a site where everyone can dump their stories, or we could even do it in a thread in this board. I want to read stories written by /jp/sies, I don't care if a tripfag thinks they're not good enough for my eyes to gaze upon or something

ZUN !barYV1VtIA Mon Dec 26 01:25:31 2011 No.8293689
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>>8293602
Hemingway ain't light novel material that's for sure though. Unless he has written something like Ore no Imouto and I somehow haven't read it yet.

Personally I was expecting simple, readable stories with cute girls and moe illustrations about said girls. But it looks like it's gonna be something else entirely, like a collection of real deal gritty short stories. In other words the exact opposite of a modern light novel. Which is just fine and I love that too, but it should be called "Nocturnes" Original Short Story Magazine/General or something. I think that would clear up a lot of confusion.

Unless you really are gonna have stories about a guy in a romance triangle with a loli vampire and a Homu/Akiha look-alike (and they all can use magic). I would enjoy that like HELL as well and it would also really be like something you'd read in a modern light novel. Plus it would give the artists a lot to work with IMO.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:25:31 2011 No.8293690 I know somebody's samefagging, but I'm not sure who. It's probably the project manager since /jp/ never bands together to defend something en masse, just flame it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:25:31 2011 No.8293691 File: 44 KB, 500x461, iknowthatfeel.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8293684

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:26:01 2011 No.8293694

>>8293654
I'm seriously considering setting up a rival publication.

Would anyone be interested in a more laid back editor, and a lack of genre restriction?

Sure it'll be a clusterfuck, and I'm in no way fit to head a project like this, but could be fun. I'll make a email and a blog and everything. But not an IRC channel. Because IRC is for faggots.

If not, I'll go suck dick.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:26:01 2011 No.8293695 >>8293689 I'm working on something gritty right now... I'm sorry, zune bear ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:26:01 2011 No.8293696 >>8293690 Okay, suspicions confirmed.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:26:32 2011 No.8293693

>>8293684

>my anxiety makes me not want to show anyone else my work until it is done

You know what you are if you show people work before it's done? An idiot.You're better off being prudent.

>even then I get nervous about showing it to anyone else.

So does everyone. It's a human thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:28:01 2011 No.8293700 >>8293688 A project manager should use a tripcode. Are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:28:31 2011 No.8293699 >>8293692 >Good job, OP and contributing writers and artists. The funny thing is, there are no contributing writers as of right now.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:30:02 2011 No.8293706

>>8293694
What I thought op was going to be was an easy going light novel magazine.You don't have to be more laid back, just specify what your looking for. The big blow up in this thread is that we wanted examples, and then the examples we got were not light novel material, just short stories. So yes if you actually come up with one that is really light novel related, then I would join in.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:31:31 2011 No.8293708

>>8293694
we don't need a editor. I don't want someone to take a potentially interesting story away from me just because it's doesn't fit his own personal criteria.

is there a way to set up a blogspot where lots of different people can contribute, maybe even anonymously? or maybe some other site. I don't know anything about web design

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:32:02 2011 No.8293714

>>8293688
The nice things about a magazine are that it allows submissions to be reviewed before being made public and, more importantly, for there to be some dialogue between the author and an editor. A good editor is at least as important to the quality of a work as the original author.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:32:02 2011 No.8293715 >>8293708 Do you understand the purpose of an editor? Anyway, set up a wiki or something, retard. And stop shitting up our thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:34:32 2011 No.8293719 >>8293715 Stop using such hateful language.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:35:01 2011 No.8293722

>>8293708
I think we still need a project organizer. Having it freely open for people to post will just result in mass edits and deletions from trolls. That and I do think editor is needed. The editor just needs to know what the theme of the blog is and judge based on that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:36:01 2011 No.8293725 Good writing takes time. I am completely unsurprised that no acceptable submissions have been made yet. The only problem with the current situation is that people think that there's something wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:37:02 2011 No.8293728 >>8293715 >stop shitting up our thread. Were you expecting anything else when you started samefagging? Did you think everyone would fall for it, and then proceed to suck your dick to get their stories past your nebulous as fuck standards?

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:40:03 2011 No.8293730

>>8293706
Yeah, that's my thought too. I've got no named examples, that aren't people who've published real light novels. But just something where people write up and share cute stories would be great. A defined world (if you're not writing in SOL land/real life) and a plot based around a central character doing cute stuff, I guess.

>>8293708
By editing all I meant was tackling any typos that slip through. Unless people would prefer them to pass through untouched, which I'd be fine with too. All I want is a place/means for /jp/ to get together and be creative. I'm not worried about deadlines, and page format and all that. I think the best way would simply either having them ready for a thread , or emailing them over and publishing it on a blog. If someone knows a better way, kindly chime in.

Also, I'm not worried about genres too much. I like cute things, and I think most people have a preference for them, but things can be depressing as fuck and still be cute. You can have magic or giant guns and still be cute, too. I feel it should be mostly light hearted, but I have no qualms letting things more suited to OP's tastes through too.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:41:31 2011 No.8293734

>>8293688
>I don't care if a tripfag thinks they're not good enough for my eyes to gaze upon or something
>>8293694
>Would anyone be interested in a more laid back editor, and a lack of genre restriction?

List of works OP has rejected:
>Stephanie Mayer meets Steins;gate Abridged
>Dream Diary of an Autist
>"magnum opus" novelists HERE IS MY CHAPTER ONE ITS PART ONE OF THIRTY FOUR
>"just an idea" nonwriters here's an outline no i can't write, but wouldn't it be cool can you please publish it

I'm guessing you guys fit into one of these groups.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:42:01 2011 No.8293742 >>8293734 You really exposed yourself here man, just saying.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:43:01 2011 No.8293747 why dont you queers just use oc thread if all you want is to post your high quality fiction all over /jp/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:43:32 2011 No.8293745 >>8293728 >>8293742 Accusations of samefagging are never constructive, no matter which way they're pointed.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:44:31 2011 No.8293748

>>8293725
The problem is that what op wanted is not matching up with what we thought he wanted. The examples he provided do not match the description of a light novel. What op wants is not what he advertises, and that is where the problem is.

Btw, even though >>8293037 was not that good, its way closer to a light novel than the examples op posted.

ZUN !barYV1VtIA Mon Dec 26 01:46:32 2011 No.8293753
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>>8293695
>>I'm working on something gritty right now... I'm sorry, zune bear ;_;

B-but I love those kind of REAL DEAL short stories too. I wanna read when you're done.

I just think most people are forgetting that light novels really ARE the fan service-filled, kawaii girl stories that most experienced writers don't like to touch with a 10 foot pole. They're not DEEP and intricate stories about dreams, the downsides of women empowerment, or Hemingway works and other stuff Anons keep mentioning.

They're simple novels for otaku that everyone of all ages can read. If it doesn't fit this criteria then you're writing something else entirely.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:47:01 2011 No.8293758 >>8293734 ...how do you know he rejected my autism log? he never responded to the second email i sent him, and he hasn't mentioned it in this thread so far. unless i missed one of his posts or something. this thread is moving way too fast.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:48:01 2011 No.8293761 >>8293753 >light novels really ARE the fan service-filled, kawaii girl stories wrong

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:48:01 2011 No.8293762 >>8293758 You should be able to connect the dots, but I'll forgive you since you seem to be genuinely autistic and not some high-functioning sperglord. He is the OP.

>>	PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw Mon Dec 26 01:49:31 2011 No.8293765 Why not just have a blogspot of /jp/ OC that updates weekly with links to new work with tags so people can browse for what interests them? Maybe with the option for pre-critiques if the artist/author wants them.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:53:01 2011 No.8293786

Giving examples wouldn't help in this circumstance. If the OP posts something that isn't universally considered good, then it will be trolled. If he does, then people complain that the bar is set too high.

Furthermore, posting examples can only serve to limit the range of the magazine. If the OP posts a single example, there is too little to represent the intended range of the magazine. If he posts multiple examples, then potential contributors will tend to write towards those few examples, and variety will suffer.

Examples aren't even necessary. The magazine will be defined by the stories that they publish, not by a couple stabs at what the editor thinks would represent acceptable submissions. If you have an idea with potential, but it's somewhat of from what the editors are looking for, they can work with you to develop it into a published story. I'd imagine that any story that gets published will have a decent amount of communication between the author and the editing staff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:53:32 2011 No.8293785 >>8293765 This is a great idea. People could then follow by author, or only thing that are "editor approved". While still allowing anyone who feels like it to have their stuff published. Why am I repeating you? Good job!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:54:02 2011 No.8293787 >>8293786 You place too much faith in this guy.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:55:01 2011 No.8293790

>>8293753
One thing I wanted to ask was "Why does this project belong in /jp/ and not /lit/?"

Then I saw the kowai uguu pictures being used as the OP pictures each time for these threads, and I assumed that we'd be producing matching content. Right now it seems like the OP just wants artists to draw a shota Alyosha to the Brothers Karamazov.

I think that posting or mentioning Hemingway in this thread was without a doubt, a complete blunder. I don't care if it was a valid example, it's painted this project in an irreversible light.

At the risk of speeding its decline, I'll say that unless OP changes something, It's becoming increasingly clear that this project is not one that belongs on /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:55:31 2011 No.8293788 >>8293786 somewhat off from*

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:57:02 2011 No.8293801 >>8293790 >>Right now it seems like the OP just wants artists to draw a shota Alyosha to the Brothers Karamazov. You say that like it's a bad thing....?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:57:31 2011 No.8293799 >>8293765 >>8293785 Hey, I like this. Everyone can participate,we get to see the good stuff, and the lol worthy bad stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:57:31 2011 No.8293800 >>8293790 >Right now it seems like the OP just wants artists to draw a shota Alyosha to the Brothers Karamazov. To be fair, that's been a dream of mine for some time as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:58:01 2011 No.8293807 >>8293790 Yeah, the OP posting Hemingway was a mistake. I'd read it as a frustrated answer to a request that shouldn't have been asked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:58:31 2011 No.8293802 >>8293765 >>8293785 what are some good alternatives to blogspot?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:58:31 2011 No.8293805 >>8293800 Single picture artist commissions usually cost around $20-30 for reasonable quality.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 01:59:32 2011 No.8293811 >>8293802 Wordpress is really the only other option unless someone feels like shelling out for a domain. I know, neither are really ideal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:00:01 2011 No.8293823 >>8293805 But I don't want "reasonable", I want "exceptional"!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:01:01 2011 No.8293830 >>8293811 Livejournal has writing communities, but from what I've seen the vast majority of them are either fanfiction or slash.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:01:32 2011 No.8293828 >>8293802 Well we are /jp/, why not go with a japanese blogging site: http://ameblo.jp/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:02:01 2011 No.8293835 >>8293830 Considering the writing displayed in this thread I don't think our magazine will be far off.

>>	PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw Mon Dec 26 02:02:01 2011 No.8293836 >>8293811 How much does a domain usually cost?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:03:31 2011 No.8293839 How about this guys? Make the effort to write something. Get shot down. Now you know what NOT to write.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:04:31 2011 No.8293845 >>8293839 I don't feel like doing it for you.

ZUN !barYV1VtIA Mon Dec 26 02:04:31 2011 No.8293847

>>8293790
>>Then I saw the kowai uguu pictures being used as the OP pictures each time for these threads, and I assumed that we'd be producing matching content.

Same here. I think everyone is confused about this too.

OP posts a pic of Oreimo but apparently the content will be nothing even remotely close to Oreimo. Okay.jpg

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:05:11 2011 No.8293853 >>8293836 I've heard of people getting them dirt cheap, but it's looking like $30 a year seems to be the average.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:06:41 2011 No.8293856

>>8293835
Setting aside the fact that none of us would ever read it, I genuinely don't think the level of writing in those is bad. The members tend to be sexually frustrated female liberal-arts types, who have, if nothing else, probably a decent command of English.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:07:11 2011 No.8293871 Op you really should have posted this in /lit/. /jp/ obviously isn't the target demographic.

>>	PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw Mon Dec 26 02:07:12 2011 No.8293860 >>8293853 Oh shit, I can pay that. All I need is a domain name that people would be happy with.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:09:41 2011 No.8293876 >>8293856 True. I've read some really good fanfiction on live journal actually. I've also read some bad, but that is what you get with all sites though. The good and the bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:10:11 2011 No.8293881 >>8293853 More like $10/y. Name.com and gandi.net are two registrars that I know of.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:11:41 2011 No.8293887 I don't think we have enough writing to actually justify shelling out for a separate website, even if there isn't any QUALITY CONTROL. You could probably just shove it into the OC thread or a special writing OC thread instead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:11:41 2011 No.8293888 >>8293871 I agree. He isn't actually looking for light novel-tier submissions, so why is he wasting his time here?

>>	PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw Mon Dec 26 02:12:11 2011 No.8293891 >>8293887 I wasn't thinking of just writing, I mean any type of OC. Games, Music, Programs, Writing, Drawing, Carving, Cooking, and whatever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:12:41 2011 No.8293890 >>8293888 I think he's looking for published-LN tier. But those expectations are still too high for a random internet ezine written by autists.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:13:11 2011 No.8293897

>>8293860
That's great news. Hosting remains a problem, but with a domain, that should be a pretty simple thing to overcome.

A name everyone agrees on? Probably never happen.

I propose the Hikikomori Quarterly, it's bad but I'd feel worse if I didn't even try to come up with something.

I know it's not going to be a magazine or publish on a schedule. It's a tongue in cheek remark about how this all came to be, and a bad one at that

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:14:41 2011 No.8293905 >>8293887 nah, the max character limit is too restrictive. there's no proper tags system, and even if we used the archive to search for authors, the format is too annoying. something like the 4chan catalog would be more comfortable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:14:41 2011 No.8293907 >>8293897 >A name everyone agrees on? /jp/ Original Content Blog #1

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:16:11 2011 No.8293918 >>8293891 I like this idea. I wish I could help

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:18:41 2011 No.8293924 What a NEET Blog It would be a corny title.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:19:41 2011 No.8293928

>>8293891
please don't take OC threads out of /jp/

there'll be nothing left, you'll ruin us all and nothing of value, etc.

But seriously, what's wrong with just posting in OC threads"? The whole novelty that we liked (at first) WAS the quality control, not the fact that it was made independent. I don't see any benefit of making it independent, besides saving content, which im sure the archive and many people do already (for content worth saving).

I don't see the point.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:19:41 2011 No.8293929 >>8293907 Something like this would do. Plain, simple, and makes life easier for all our successors.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:20:11 2011 No.8293931 We should name it /ln/.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:21:12 2011 No.8293937

>>8293928
Points have already been made for the lack of tags to search, and character limit. Besides, this would also be for games, or whatever else people come up with.

Plus, having a separate site for it also makes it feel more official, for the morale of the creators.

Also easier to handle shitposters nesting in, than a thread would be,

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:22:11 2011 No.8293941 >>8293937 Historically those have been shoved in pastebins or mediafires. haven't they?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:22:11 2011 No.8293943 >>8293928 Even if this goes great, OC threads will still exist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:24:11 2011 No.8293953 >>8293897 Why not just /jp/ though? Is it possible? Anyway OP died from hijack?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:24:11 2011 No.8293954 I am not saying LN is a terrible medium as there are some good quality LN out there. Why not make a real novel instead? Most LNs are just chuuni garbage.

>>	PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw Mon Dec 26 02:24:11 2011 No.8293956 >>8293928 I was mostly thinking as a special archive of sorts, not a replacement for the OC. And currently, I still have to buy the domain, find hosting, and actually make the site. There is still plenty of time before this even goes live.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:25:42 2011 No.8293959

>>8293937
You could make a separate site for /jp/ OC that offers a better experience than just posting in /jp/ threads. However, I'm not convinced that the possible improvements would be meaningful enough to convince people to actually post on the site rather than /jp/. The worst enemy of a great solution is a solution that's good enough, etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:27:41 2011 No.8293964 >>8293954 >LN >medium

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:29:11 2011 No.8293973

>>8293954
That would take even more effort than an LN magazine, and that means long periods from update to update with little to show in between. If there's one thing that this thread has shown, it's that we're not willing to wait for very long before we call a project fruitless.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:29:11 2011 No.8293974

>>8293959
I have no problem with people posting here. It's good for the board, and some people are simply more comfortable with it, so we may see some thing that would not otherwise get out. This is just an open alternative for the people who are interested. We've got someone willing to fund it, and if they don't feel like doing the slog work in maintaining it I'll make a standing offer to help out with that. It's just for fun, and if it crashes and burns, then it crashes and burns. I don't see any reason not to give it a shot though.

>>8293953
I'd like this project to stay /jp/ only.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:29:11 2011 No.8293977 Is this just a /jp/ magazine or are /a/ and /lit/ involved too?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:30:41 2011 No.8293979 >>8293956 keep us updated on this please.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:30:41 2011 No.8293981 are you just going to publish issues whenever you feel like you have enough content, or do you actually think you'll be able to get quality content from /jp/ers on a regular, defined basis?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:32:41 2011 No.8293989 >>8293956 Making the site will be the hardest part. I'd suggest setting up a wiki, as anything more ambitious involving custom software would greatly increase the chances of project death.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:33:42 2011 No.8293995 >>8293981 The new idea has no standing deadlines or publication quotas. I think if suddenly there was a huge surge, and a flood of regular contributions, one would have to be worked out though. OP's was a clusterfuck and died.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:34:11 2011 No.8294001

>>8293928
How about we use the site to archive and showcase the stuffs that are good enough from the OC thread? So people will post on OC threads like normal, and through some magic system we decide which ones to upload to the site.

Or do it the other way around. Have an official OC thread on /jp/, where the contents are stuffs that's been through quality control from the site. Everyone can upload whatever they want on the new site, but only those meeting certain magic criteria are posted here. How about that?

Wait, actually the second one is a bit too dickwave-y. Scratch that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:36:12 2011 No.8294020 File: 108 KB, 802x605, 14129.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm tempted to play this just to see if there are any stripped socks. http://vndb.org/v3684

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:36:41 2011 No.8294017

>>8293937
>lack of tags to search,
Do we really have -booru levels of OC, constantly in demand? When's the last time you've had the urge to look at Mugen's scribbles? assuming you don't have them saved backed up and wallpaperedlike i do
>character limit
Pastebin, Mediafire (txt, doc, not that anyone's done this)
>Besides, this would also be for games, or whatever else people come up with.
just talk about it, or link that shit (not that anyone's done this)
>makes it feel more official
A "General Original Content Thread #XX" that doesn't get deleted is pretty fucking official. No one ever complains about page 15 necroing either. (the fact that we have to shows how little OC is being made in the first place)
>easier to handle shitposters nesting in
i don't think this has ever been a major, consistent problem for OC threads

>>8293974
The fact that you're splitting an already weak, irregular source of original content between two sites is enough to make me oppose this. Why take even a little away, if the end result is two places more mediocre than the original?

PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw Mon Dec 26 02:40:12 2011 No.8294034

There are two options:
1. A website is made that holds a catch all wiki for anyone willing to add to it. Anything OC will be welcome, and if it starts to kill the threads on /jp/, I will pull the plug.

or

2. It will be used as a pool for potential /jp/ projects. People who are interested in working on a specific aspect of a project (writing, drawing, composing) will just leave a sample with an email to contact them. Project leaders can make pages about what their project is about, and what they need to realize it. Could also be used as a way of keeping track of progress of said projects.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:40:41 2011 No.8294036

>>8294017
>The fact that you're splitting an already weak, irregular source of original content between two sites is enough to make me oppose this

This was my exact thought.
Fracturing an already limited source seems like a lot of effort just to end in failure.

Hell, Nocturne has been around all of, what, 4 days?
Apparently it's already a "clusterfuck" and a "failure".

A better idea would be just to set up a wiki or something to archive OC from OC threads.
The threads move slow enough that it's unlikely people will miss out on things to archive.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:41:41 2011 No.8294041

>>8294017
You make valid points for taking OC from the board. I can't refute any of them, but I still stand by my own.

As for splitting from OP's project. It does not seem that anyone will be staying with him anyway.

I understand you're worried about taking board content away from the board, but in all likelihood, there will be no visible difference.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:42:11 2011 No.8294047 >>8294017 >i don't think this has ever been a major, consistent problem for OC threads You're fucking kidding me, right? The rest of your points are still valid, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:42:42 2011 No.8294046 >>8294034 That second idea sounds like a much better option that wouldn't really fracture the already weak showing for OC threads here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:43:12 2011 No.8294050 >>8294034 Option 2 sounds like a great resource, if it ever gets to that point. And your first point sounds level headed and responsible.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:45:41 2011 No.8294059

>>8294034
With the first option, if it doesn't get enough activity to basically start killing threads on /jp/ then it isn't worth the effort.
If you'll pull the plug if it does manage to do that then there's no point.

The second option sounds more reasonable and would be great for long term projects.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:46:11 2011 No.8294069

>>8294041
I can't speak for others, but I'm still on board, albeit a little hesitantly. I would have loved to see a first issue to see what sort of content OP actually wants to include, but I'll probably still submit my story when I'm finished.

Not to bring you guys down or anything, but the idea of a site for any and all /jp/ original content just seems a little too unorganized for my tastes.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:46:11 2011 No.8294070

>>8294036
>Hell, Nocturne has been around all of, what, 4 days? Apparently it's already a "clusterfuck" and a "failure".
I agree with this sentiment.

Despite the direction that the thread's taken, I'd still encourage Nocturne to keep going. There's inevitably going to be a lot of negativity at this stage, because there's honestly not much else to talk about. The general aspects of the magazine have been decided, people are writing, and there's nothing to show at this point. This thread would have either died from the lack of active discussion or been consumed by panic, and it did the latter.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:51:42 2011 No.8294092

>>8293973
Novels are usually written by a single person.
It is basically a 1man project, well maybe you need to find an editor to help you out but the project will not die if you have to motivation to keep going.
Things like LN magazine where you need to DEAL with other people are more prone to go on hiatus.

PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw Mon Dec 26 02:53:42 2011 No.8294108

What would be a good name for the site if it follows the standard of option 2?

>>8294070
The page could be good for Nocturne as well. People can see what the project is about, those in charge could browse the samples of artists/authors that have posted them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:55:11 2011 No.8294117 >>8294108 /jp/ - Projects and OC

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:56:11 2011 No.8294123

>>8294108
This is a great idea. Nocturne is a very specific thing, and would still continue to operate independently. But could be showcased as an individual long term project within the context of the OC "mainsite".

As for an idea. Something simple and plain like the suggested /jp/ OC BLOG #1 will probably be the best option. Since anything witty or colorful would likely turn people off.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:57:41 2011 No.8294128

>>8294092
On the flipside, if the writer loses interest the project is dead.
Or if they find excuses to push things back.
"Oh there's no rush."
"I'll write more later."
Etc.

Working as part of a project with proper deadlines (I think Nocturne's aiming for the last day of January.) you'll have a clear goal in mind.
Even if you end up falling back to your bad habits and half assing everything the night before the due date, at least something will get done.

In either situation it just...depends.
Personally I'd rather work in a group project like this. I get motivated more easily if I know when I need something done.
It's also nice to have someone say "it's shit" before making things public and possibly embarrassing myself.

>>	PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw Mon Dec 26 02:58:42 2011 No.8294136 >>8294117 >>8294123 I mean a domain, sorry. Once that is settled, I will look into securing the domain and hosting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 03:00:41 2011 No.8294151 >>8294136 autistworkshop

>>	PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw Mon Dec 26 03:05:41 2011 No.8294184 >>8294151 Taken, but there is: AutistLaboratory, AutistStudio, and AutistMill. All at .jp

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 03:10:12 2011 No.8294211 >>8294184 I like Autistmill, it has nice connotations to it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 03:10:41 2011 No.8294208 >>8294184 You could do originalcontent.jp, that appears to be available.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 03:11:41 2011 No.8294212 >>8294184 Please let the autist thing die already. I really don't know why people keep making jokes about something that should have died when summer ended.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 03:12:11 2011 No.8294215 >>8294208, here Go with this >>8294211

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 03:12:11 2011 No.8294216 >>8294184 >>8294212 I agree. We should have something /jp/-related without having to resort to memes like that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 03:13:12 2011 No.8294221 >>8294215 Oh shit, backwards. I meant the other way around.

>>	PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw Mon Dec 26 03:13:41 2011 No.8294220 Got Original-Content.jp

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 03:16:41 2011 No.8294230 >>8294220 Thank you.

>>	PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw Mon Dec 26 03:17:11 2011 No.8294232 Seems like I can't get the .jp because I live in America. Will just change the domain to JPOriginal-Content.us

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 03:18:11 2011 No.8294236 https://thepoltergeistmansion.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/the-poltergeist-music-list/ Add music from here to your playlist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 03:22:11 2011 No.8294244 >>8294232 The dash makes it look kind of off when you've got jp in there: jporiginalcontent.us vs jporiginal-content.us jp-oc.us seems available, too.

>>	PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw Mon Dec 26 03:23:11 2011 No.8294249 >>8294244 Will do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 03:27:12 2011 No.8294263 >>8294249 Thank you. /jp/ will probably chew your ass out, becuase that's what we do, but you're doing a great thing here, and I, at least appreciate it.

>>	PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw Mon Dec 26 03:42:11 2011 No.8294313 I have it set up, just need to visit the bank when it opens to get the money needed for the transaction. I'll let /jp/ know when it is up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 03:45:41 2011 No.8294324 >>8294313 Awesome.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 03:48:41 2011 No.8294328 >>8294313 Looking forward to it. I probably don't need to say this, but make a new thread when it happens.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 04:20:34 2011 No.8294406 >>8294232 I can apply it for you if you trust me.

>>	PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw Mon Dec 26 04:33:05 2011 No.8294464 >>8294406 Nah, I got everything under control for now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 07:47:55 2011 No.8295248 OP ruined his project by giving the wrong impression, so /jp/ decides to ruin the OC threads. Good job.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 08:17:00 2011 No.8295302 >>8294128 This was the last post in the thread that bothered relating to the original subject, which had died hours ago after the OP basically told everyone to fuck off. Neat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 08:21:45 2011 No.8295313 >>8295302 >OP basically told everyone to fuck off. Where did that happen?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 08:21:45 2011 No.8295318 >>8295313 Nice job bumping the thread, you stupid nigger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 08:22:45 2011 No.8295322 >>8295318 Sorry, captcha

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 08:24:45 2011 No.8295326 >>8295322 What the fuck does that have to do with anything? You mean you don't have some sort of extension like 4chan plus?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 08:30:17 2011 No.8295345 >>8295322 If you have nokosage in your email field even a failed captcha entry will not change it to something that will bump the thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 08:31:17 2011 No.8295348 >>8295345 That too!

>>	PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw Mon Dec 26 15:41:34 2011 No.8296977 Turns out my bank was closed today. Tomorrow it will be open.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 20:44:55 2011 No.8297524 Bampu pantsu.

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